Campus Chaos & the Joy of Fighting Back

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Campus Chaos & the Joy of Fighting Back"

The Rob Carson Show – Dec 11, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Featured Guests: Emily Sturge (Campus Reform), Carl DeMaio, Jim Gossett, Erica Kirk

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode of "The Rob Carson Show" dives into the tumultuous state of American campuses, the broader political and cultural climate, and the ways in which those on the political right can and should fight back. With a characteristically humorous and combative tone, Rob reflects on current events, media narratives, and the pushback against progressive ideologies, especially in education. Through guest interviews and parody, the episode aims to both inform and energize listeners amid rising controversies on issues like illegal immigration, academia, social welfare, and political divisiveness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recent Developments in Politics and Security

• Critique of Democrats on National Security:

  • Rob reacts to House testimony, expressing outrage at Democratic minimization of violent incidents (e.g., National Guard soldier's murder).

    “How broken are you that you'd say such a thing?” (01:27, Rob Carson)

• NYC's Security Funding & Crime:

  • Discussion led by Carl DeMaio on funding cuts to city security despite increased threats and ongoing criminal releases.
    • Filibustering by officials cited as avoidance of responsibility (02:44).
    • Emily Sturge and Rob highlight hypocrisy in criticizing funding cuts while releasing criminals.

    “What compels you, your mayor and your governor, to release thousands of criminals...?" (03:01, Emily Sturge)

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2. The Border Crisis & Welfare Statistics

• Non-Citizen Social Security Numbers:

  • Steve Deese shares data on the exponential increase in social security cards issued to non-citizens under Biden (03:42–04:32).

    "The amount of people non-Americans they gave Social Security cards to last year... would be the 39th largest state in the union." (04:04, Steve Deese)

• Somali Refugee Welfare in Minnesota:

  • Rob presents statistics on Somali households' welfare dependency, emphasizing disparities compared to native-born Americans.

    “You are racist. Rob Carson. No, I'm not. Shut up.” (05:49, Rob Carson, mocking likely criticism)

• International Comparisons:

  • Discusses immigrants' lifetime fiscal impact by region, drawing negative conclusions about certain groups, particularly Somalians.

• Criticism of Open Borders Policy:

  • Bernie Marino and Jasmine Crockett debate whether the Biden administration has allowed criminals and terrorists in—Rob mocks Crockett’s defense of the administration.

    “You’re so full of crap. There’s corn floating in your eyes.” (07:59, Rob Carson)

Parody Segment

• "Somali Christmas" Parody Song by Jim Gossett (08:26–09:21):
  • Satirical take on welfare and immigration policies with biting humor.

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3. Preferential Treatment for Illegal Immigrants in California

• Tuition and Social Benefits:

  • Carl DeMaio discusses how illegal immigrants get in-state tuition and better social services than American citizens (10:53–12:42).

    “If you give them lots of free stuff, they will vote exclusively Democrat.” (11:09, Rob Carson) "His son cannot get the same treatment as an illegal immigrant..." (12:27, Carl DeMaio)

• Steve Hilton’s Critique of Gavin Newsom:

  • Blasts Newsom's record (e.g., poverty, homelessness, high costs) and claims one-party rule is ruining California.

    “The most useless governor in America... The fightback starts now.” (12:56, Steve Hilton)

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4. Trans Issues and Progressive Policies

• Gavin Newsom on Trans Legislation:
  • Rob lambasts Newsom’s support for pro-trans policies affecting children, using a highly sensational and critical tone (13:38–14:10).

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5. 2024/2026 Political Outlook and Critique of Democrats

• New Senate Candidate Jasmine Crockett:

  • Rob and others respond to her unapologetic progressive rhetoric and left-wing positioning (17:36–20:10).

    “Go left. She ain't never scared…” (17:54, Rob Carson)

• Compilation of Democratic Calls for "Violence":

  • Airs clips and statements allegedly calling for conflict or violence—calls out media hypocrisy (18:26–18:56).

    “I challenged somebody to go and find a clip of a Democrat invoking violence.” (18:26, Jasmine Crockett) “Let's extinguish him for good…” (18:33, Emily Sturge quoting)

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6. Academia & Campus Chaos

• Emily Sturge Interview (Campus Reform):

  • Rob and Emily discuss the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder, leftist intolerance on campuses, and the resilience of conservative students (21:52–24:08).

    “I’m done with this bullcrap. If I get confronted… I give it right to the left… They have no arguments.” (22:43, Rob Carson) “Conservative students are still fighting on campus.” (24:08, Emily Sturge)

• MSU Denver & "Standard English as White Supremacy":

  • Emily and Rob critique academic trends labeling grammar and academic standards as racist, arguing it harms minority students and undermines standards (25:08–27:03).

    “Grammar is suddenly being labeled racist. In fact, I think it’s racist to say that some students can’t handle academic rigor based on their skin color.” (25:53, Emily Sturge)

• The Value of College, Debt, and "Dependent Class":

  • Statistics show declining faith in four-year degrees; trends of students moving south for affordability; critique of elite universities’ politicization.

    “They graduate with a worthless degree. They work at Starbucks.” (27:03, Rob Carson)

• Coddling College Students: Care Bears and Play Doh:

  • Mockery of "infantilizing" stress-relief practices during finals (Care Bears, slime, etc.).

    "Dear God, grow a pair. Get your ass in there and take your test for God's sake." (31:08, Rob Carson) “Engineering students at University of Illinois Chicago, they're making friendship bracelets and playing with slime. This sounds like a kindergarten birthday party.” (31:42, Emily Sturge)

• Positive Trends Among Gen Z:

  • Emily notes military recruitment increases, shifts towards conservatism and faith among young people (32:04–32:36).

• Power of Human Connection:

  • Rob celebrates the resurgence of spoken-word media and podcasts among Gen Z, interpreting it as a hopeful reversal of progressive indoctrination (33:49–34:51).

    “That’s how they backfired. Human connection. That’s what podcasts are all about.” (33:40, Rob Carson)

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7. Looking Ahead: Optimism for the Future

• Faith in America's Direction:
  • Both Rob and Emily express optimism for 2026 (America’s 250th anniversary), citing cultural renewal and pushback against leftist excess (35:49–36:35).

    “We have to overwhelm the left with joy and patriotism. Add faith to that and we've got a winning message.” (36:35, Rob Carson)

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8. Parody & Entertainment

• Adam Schiff Parody

  • Segment mocking Adam Schiff’s denial of wrongdoing over the Russia investigation (38:03–39:49).

    “You got everything wrong.” (38:05, Rob Carson)

• Original Songs by Jim Gossett:

  • Humorous and pointed parodies around popular political figures and headlines.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Political Cynicism:

  "The Democrats are putting the pedal of the metal on stupid." (01:21, Rob Carson)

• On Academia & Infantilization:

  “This is communism and socialism. You punish the achievers and you let the others wallow in their misery…” (25:53, Rob Carson)

• On Generation Z:

  “Gen Z is burning out at work more than any other generation. You know what? Boo friggity who.” (30:33, Rob Carson)

• On Fighting Back:

  "It's time we started fighting back." (22:43, Rob Carson)

• On Cultural Trends:

  “I think next year is going to be remarkable… I think the future is very bright, Emily.” (35:49, Rob Carson)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:21 – Main show opening on show prep and politics
• 03:42–04:32 – Non-citizen Social Security data (Steve Deese segment)
• 05:49 – Somali welfare stats, international comparisons (Rob)
• 07:22–07:59 – Bernie Marino vs Jasmine Crockett on border security
• 08:26–09:21 – "Somali Christmas" parody by Jim Gossett
• 10:53–12:42 – Carl DeMaio on tuition preference for illegals in CA
• 12:56–13:38 – Steve Hilton on Newsom & California
• 13:38–14:10 – Rob’s critique of Gavin Newsom and trans issues
• 17:36–20:10 – Jasmine Crockett campaign, violence montage, Democratic rhetoric
• 21:52–27:03 – Emily Sturge segment, campus chaos, lowering academic standards
• 27:59–28:54 – Declining value of a college degree, university politicization
• 31:08–31:42 – Infantilizing campus “therapy” practices
• 33:49–34:51 – The power of podcasting and human connection for Gen Z
• 35:57–36:35 – Show optimism for 2026 & the cultural future
• 38:03–39:49 – Adam Schiff parody & show close

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Tone and Style

The episode is a blend of humorous, combative, and sentimental tones typical of Rob Carson. The hosts and guests use satire, parody songs, and blunt rhetoric, mingling serious political commentary with mockery and lively banter. There are moments of optimism and inspiration, especially when discussing the potential of young Americans and the future of the country.

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Conclusion

This episode tackles hot-button issues—immigration, welfare, campus activism, progressive policies—and underscores the joy, even necessity, of “fighting back” against what Rob and his guests perceive as leftist overreach and intellectual decline. With a mix of statistics, opinion, parody, and guest insights, the show encourages conservatives to stay resilient, informed, and joyful in the battles ahead.

Transcript

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[Emily Sturge]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Jim Gossett]

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[Jim Gossett]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show. Hello, hour number three of the show today. I'm just doing show prep as we speak because you know, I never stop. I never stop doing show prep. I always finding something new. And this morning I even changed the show before I started because of the testimony of Christy Dome on Capitol Hill and how the Democrats were making complete fools of themselves. Benny Thompson saying that the murder of a National Guard soldier and the injury of another was unfortunate accident. I mean, honestly, how broken are you that you would say such a thing? And of course, the Democrats are putting the pedal of the metal on stupid. This is Tim Kennedy trying to blame Trump. Christine Elm for chaos in New York City.

[Carl DeMaio]

The official's assessment that the United States has been operating in a heightened threat environment for several years now.

[Emily Sturge]

Yes.

[Carl DeMaio]

Yes or no, Would you say New York City is susceptible to these kinds of security threats?

[Jasmine Crockett]

Yes.

[Emily Sturge]

And that's why?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, because you see, 24 years ago, some terrorists flew a couple of planes into a couple buildings and they fell down and killed 3,000 people. And then about what, six years before that they drove a truck bomb into the basement, one those buildings and tried to blow it up. They should spend.

[Carl DeMaio]

So with New York terrorist target in.

[Emily Sturge]

The nation federal government gave them.

[Carl DeMaio]

With New York City being the number one, I reclaim my time. With New York City being the number 100.

[Rob Carson]

They're trying to filibuster threaten this nation they had.

[Carl DeMaio]

It's unconscionable that you would cut $134 million in urban area Security Initiative funding for the city of New York. What compelled you to knowingly make our cities less safe with these funding cuts?

[Emily Sturge]

What compels you, your mayor and your governor to release thousands of criminals on the streets rather than to turn them over to ICE? You'd rather release Harry?

[Carl DeMaio]

No.

[Rob Carson]

They just released 7,000 felons into the streets of New York City. Honestly. And one of the reasons why the cuts are happening is because you guys. Such a lousy job, such an absolute lousy job with our money. There you go. There you go. This is kind of interesting. Steve Deese, he's, he's from Iowa and he's also with the Blaze and he was commenting about the open border and why it happened and I basically nothing here. He's not going to tell you anything he didn't know. But it is nice to know that we were right.

[Steve Deese]

Non citizen Social Security numbers issued during the Biden administration. 270,000 in 21, over 590,000 in 22, over 960,000 in 23, over 2.1 million in 24. Gee, I wonder why that escalated so much in 24. Because what are you probably more likely to legitimately be able to claim if you got a Social Security card?

[Carl DeMaio]

Citizenship voting.

[Steve Deese]

By the way, that's more people. The Biden administration gave more non citizens Social Security cards in four years than live in our home state of Iowa. If we just took the amount of people they gave Those to in 2024, that's more people than live in Nebraska, Idaho, West Virginia, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Maine, Montana, Rhode Island, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alask, D.C. vermont and Wyoming. It would be the 39th largest state in the union. Just the amount of people non Americans they gave Social Security cards to last year.

[Rob Carson]

That is crazy. By the way, more than eight in 10 households headed by Somali refugees in Minnesota are on some sort of taxpayer funded welfare. Center for Immigration Studies reports it shows drastic disparities between native born American households and Somali born households. In Minnesota, nearly 80,000 residents have Somali ancestry compared to zero who had ancestry in 1990. They all came in after 1990. 81% of Minnesota households headed by Somali refugees one form or more welfare, including 27% who are on cash welfare. 54% are on food stamps, 73% on Medicaid. Now when you look at native born Americans residing in Minnesota, only 21% of whom are on some sort of welfare, including just 6% who are on cash welfare, 7% who are on food stamps and 18% who are on Medicaid. 89% of Somali headed households with children in Minnesota are on one or more forms of welfare as 86% are on Medicaid. 62% of Somali households with children in the state are on food stamps, 23% take cash welfare. Only 3 in 10 native Minnesota households with children take one or more forms of welfare, including 6% on cash, 10% on food stamps, 28 on Medicaid. Wow. Yeah, they really take you to the cleaners up there. You're a racist. Rob Carson. No, I'm not. Shut up. As far as the Somali refugees who are in or near Poverty in Minnesota surpasses 66% Fewer than 2 in 10 native born Americans live in poverty in Minnesota.7% of native born Americans in Minnesota speak English less than very well. Almost 60% of Somali refugees say they do not speak English very well. So they're not assimilating, they're just taking money from the state and the people. And if you look at the lifetime contribution per immigrant sorting to the IZA in the Netherlands in 2024, North Americans lifetime contribution is 473%. A net positive of $573,000 to whatever the country they live in. Japan 525,000. The UK 481,000. When it comes to lifetime contribution per immigrant in society, the sub Saharan African $730,000 negative. Middle EAS $624,000 negative. Caribbean 675,000 negative. And Somalians in their lifetime negative $1.1 million. You are racist. Rob Carson Yes. Shut up. Here is Bernie Marino grilling a test. Somebody giving testimony for Congress about Biden's open border and trying to argue like it wasn't intentional. Do you stand by that? That that's a false statement? That Biden in terrorists and criminals?

[Jasmine Crockett]

Well, I certainly think that the Biden administration tried to prevent those individuals from.

[Rob Carson]

Going in and they tried to prevent those people coming in by letting tens of millions of people cross our border illegally.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Well, I don't think that the Biden administration was letting people cross illegally. It was clearly struggling with massive amount of undocumented irregular migration flows among which criminal individuals might very well have been present. But I do not believe that the Biden administration simply allowed them to enter.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, you're so full of crap. There's corn floating in your eyes. Gotcha. So it's just coincidental that tens of millions of people cross our border during their administration and zero of cross now since Trump. That was just completely by happenstance and coincidence?

[Jasmine Crockett]

No, I don't think that was by happen.

[Rob Carson]

Well, then do you stand by that, that that's a false statement that Biden didn' let in terrorists and criminals? Yeah. Unbelievable. This is Jim Gossett having a happy.

[Jim Gossett]

Somali Christmas Have a hali Somali Christmas Millions you can steal get lots of freebos from they stole a ton. Nothing was done. Santa Wall, Jim Walls what's the deal? Yeah, big fat Santa have a holly Somali Christmas. And in case you you didn't hear booty, booty boot oh, by golly, have a holly Somali Christmas this year in London. Omar, she's in on the theft, married her brother. It's another reason you can't trust the left. A doo doo have a holly tamale Christmas. Tim Walls let it take place. Oh, by golly, Tampa. Tim will never ever save face.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. That is Jim Gossett. If you want to help him out, go to patreon.com Jim Gossett comedy that's like Christmas song number 15 so far this season. The guy is a genius. Patreon.com Jim Gossett comedy if you would help him out. It's interesting because we know that in states like Illinois, if you're an illegal and you go to get medical treatment, you're going to be. The hospital will be reimbursed twice as much. Your treatment is going to be better. You get free daycare and all of this. Same goes with California, same goes with New York. While Joe Biden was the president, while we were screaming as the sudden border was open and they said, oh no, it's completely sealed and they lied to us. And really it was a hostile takeover of the country. It was an invasion and legal invasion of the country. The Democrat party welcomed it into the country. They should held it should be. They should be imprisoned for what they did. Allowing our enemy to come into it was as treasonous as it becomes. This is why. This is why the Alejandro Mayorkas should be lined up against a wall. I'm not kidding. He lied to us and he allowed people to come in. It resulted in the deaths of thousands. It resulted in the sex Trafficking of children. He deserves the ultimate punishment after a trial. And then in California, I don't know if you knew this, but yeah, they actually treat illegals better. They get prioritized for tuition in state tuition before American students. Listen to this.

[Carl DeMaio]

California Democrat politicians have now enacted a new rule that treats citizens worse than illegal immigrants and gives discounts for tuition to illegal immigrants over citizens here in the United states. I'm Carl DeMaio, chair.

[Rob Carson]

You know why? Because if you give them lots of free stuff, they will vote exclusively Democrat.

[Carl DeMaio]

Forever reform California and a California state representative. And I think this is completely unfair and offensive. I was contacted.

[Rob Carson]

Plus they can get away with it by lying about it and covering it up.

[Carl DeMaio]

Last week by a student wishing to enroll in a California university and they were told that they have to pay.

[Rob Carson]

See if they went on the air and they said, we will give you in state tuition if you vote Democrat to American citizens. That would be illegal. That would be illegal. So what they do is they just give it to illegals. And the illegals know that it's coming from Democrats and they come from hellhole countries. So anything they get, the welfare state in this country is like winning the lottery if you're coming from Somalia. So you know they're gonna go vote Democrat.

[Carl DeMaio]

Tens of thousands of dollars more in tuition than if they were an illegal immigrant. Yeah, because illegal immigrants have been given in state tuition discounts even though they're not eligible for them, whereas citizens from other states are charged substantially higher rates. He explained his father fought for freedom, he is a veteran, and yet his son cannot get the same treatment as an illegal immigrant.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Carl DeMaio]

He's quipped that maybe he should try to go to Mexico and enter California illegally. Would that get him a discount? Sadly, no. That's why in the state legislature, I'm fighting to make sure that citizens are our priority, not people here illegally.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Steve Hilton, who's running for governor, he had some comments on this. I'll share that on the other side of the break. Let's take a break, shall we? This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Steve Hilton]

The most useless governor in America. Look at the facts. We have the highest unemployment rates, the highest poverty rate, housing costs, gas prices, electric bills, homelessness, you name it. Gavin Newsom's California is the worst. The most useless government in America. Has he been doing anything to try and clean up any of this mess that he made or to clean up here in the Palisades? The most useless governor in America has been spending $300 million of our money on his election Rigging scheme to try and make himself president. Well, it's not going to work and it's not going to work here in California because the fight back starts now. We are going to end one party rule in California. We're going to defeat this corrupt.

[Rob Carson]

They have to. Because I don't know, man, he's never going to be the president by the way. He's a, he's a soy boy. I mean worse than a. So way here he is, he's doubling down on the trans for children thing, which is just so disgusting. I mean honestly, drop in from 10 years ago and say that, hey, you know what? I think that children should be mutilated sexually and given drugs to stop their puberties because they think they're the opposite sex. They'll be eunuchs for life. Not able to perform sexually, achieve orgasm, have children. And even when they're 12, they can make this decision. Young girls can get healthy breast tissue removed so they can never breastfeed and have their ovaries removed. Young boys can have their penises removed. Young girls can have a faux penis fashioned from the flesh of their arm or leg, fastened to their scrotum or I should say their nether regions. Like got an ear waiting to be reattached. Yeah, Gavin Newsom's down with that. We didn't get into transports. That's an issue no one wants to hear about because 80 of people listening disagree with my position on this. But I, but it comes from my heart. It wasn't a political evolution. It was position. Being that I, I don't think it's. I, I want to see trans kids. I have a trans godson. I'm not. There's no governor to sign more pro trans. Are you sure? It's a godson legislation than I have. And no one has been a stronger advocate for the ltp. Disgusting, disgusting human being. What a slimy scumbag. Dear God. Hey, you know the price of gold? About 4,200 bucks. $4,200. It's been going up, up, up. Thank you very much. You, I've told you this time and time again. This time last year, gold about 1600 or let me see, $2600. It was up to 22, 25 yesterday. It's about 22 now. It was 2000 a week. Two or three weeks ago it was 3000, you know, so, so if you had 10 ounces of gold, you would have made two grand in three weeks time. But you wouldn't have sold. You would have said no, no no, keep it going, keep it going, keep it going, keep it going. This meteoric row rise of gold. Keep it going. Well, if you haven't gotten on the train yet, I would suggest that you finally text my name, Rob, to 989-898 for Birch Gold. Because right now they're going to throw in some silver. When you get gold, $5,000 invested in gold, it's just taking $5,000 you're going to invest, or maybe you haven't invested somewhere else, or maybe it's in savings and you're saying, let's grow this. Let's get going here. Rob Carson told me last year and it gave, you know, thousand dollars an ounce, for God's sake. Maybe I should do something or. $800,000 an ounce. Unbelievable, though. Text my name, Rob, to 989-898. You're going to be eligible for free silver. $5,000 invested. You get a free one ounce of silver, which has gone up 60% too. Great as a Hanukkah gift, great as a Christmas gift. Great as a stocking stuffer, great as a Advent calendar gift. Great to just keep and watch, grow, watch, grow. Text my name, Rob, to 989-898 to claim your eligibility for this offer. And they make it easy for you. They do all the paperwork. They just, you just give some information, they do the heavy lifting and boom, there you go. Offer ends December 22nd. Text Rob to 989-898. Jasmine Crockett is running for Senate. And apparently the Republican Party goaded her into running. They convinced her through surreptitious ways. I don't know, whatever polling or whatever, we don't have the whole story on it, but they want her to run and she is now running. And this should be a lot of fun.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Has not backed down whatsoever from his rhetoric against the president in the Oval Office. He stood at. He stood there and he said what he said about him being a fascist, yet he was able to win those voters. So Democrats that believe the only way that you can win is by being soft and sounding like a Republican. That is not true.

[Rob Carson]

Go left. She ain't never scared and she ain't never been who waste willing to go.

[Carl DeMaio]

Toe to toe against the president.

[Rob Carson]

I can't wrap my head around someone who votes Republican.

[Carl DeMaio]

She advocate for feeding kids.

[Rob Carson]

They protect folks, touching them and they.

[Carl DeMaio]

Only trying to protect children.

[Rob Carson]

He's not a very good rapper. He's not. I know a lot of hip hop. I like to listen to some hip hop, you know, I like the old School stuff. He just sounds kind of stupid. That's racist. Oh, it's not. Shut up. Here is a GOP ad. They've already got the ads going because they were ready. They want her to run. And here's a new ad for us. Jasmine Crockett.

[Jasmine Crockett]

I challenged somebody to go and find a clip of a Democrat invoking violence.

[Emily Sturge]

Let's extinguish him for good.

[Rob Carson]

I will go and take Trump out tonight. We're gonna fight it in the courts, and we're gonna fight it in the streets. When they go low, we're gonna bury them below the Capitol. That's what we're gonna do. We take them to the mud and choke them out.

[Emily Sturge]

You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives.

[Rob Carson]

I just don't even know why there.

[Emily Sturge]

Aren'T uprisings all over the country.

[Rob Carson]

And maybe there will be. We're walking down a damn dip to the end here. See anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a. There you go. That's good. That's good, that's good. Here's a little bit more of who is running for Senate. Senate in Texas.

[Carl DeMaio]

Attitude over Brain power.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Turning Texas blue is what I want to talk to y' all about today. Now, there are those that say, ain't no way. We done tried it 50 kinds of ways.

[Rob Carson]

Let me talk to me, Geraldine, be clear.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Y' all ain't never tried at the JC Way. We used to telling us what I can't do.

[Rob Carson]

But they have no what I can't do.

[Jasmine Crockett]

What Crockett's crew will do.

[Rob Carson]

Crockett's crew.

[Jasmine Crockett]

They tell us that Texas is bred.

[Rob Carson]

Is. They lie.

[Jasmine Crockett]

They are lying.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Jasmine Crockett]

We're not.

[Rob Carson]

No, you are.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Reality is that most Texans don't get out to vote. By now, I'm sure you have heard the good news. Yes. Good news coming out of Texas. I know you are not used to good news coming from Texas.

[Rob Carson]

That's not a bad thing about Texas there.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Let's show the world why Texas will be on the map finally, for something good.

[Rob Carson]

There was someone who came slam Texas.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Again there and inspired me. There was this charismatic, funny, intelligent and engaging, exciting young candidate with a funny name who just got into the US Senate and was running for president. Yes, I'm talking about President Barack Obama.

[Rob Carson]

Who didn't achieve anything. And his signature legislation, Obamacare, has turned out to be a massive scam. A massive scam and a Lie. Emily Sturridge, Campus Reform, joins us on the other side of the break. Do not go anywhere.

[Erica Kirk]

This is righteous anger because this is not okay. It's not healthy. This is a mind virus. I don't care what box you're in, but just know that your words are very powerful. And we are human. My team are not machines and they're not robots. They are human. We have more death threats on our team and our side than I have ever seen. I have kidnapping threats. I have. You name it, we have it. And my poor team is exhausted. And every time they bring this back up, what are we supposed to do? Relive that trauma all over again? They watched my husband get murdered. I have no idea how I would have reacted if I was there that day. And thank the good Lord that I did not have to see that happen. But my team, they are rocked to the core. So why every single day do they have to be dragged through the mud, Analyzed, hyper analyzed. If you want to find and pick me apart, go right ahead. I do not care. I don't. This was happening before Charlie was murdered. Both of us have been through the wringer of. People will call you whatever they want to call you.

[Rob Carson]

That's Erica Kirk yesterday, and her husband was murdered just three months ago. That she's able to say anything and be able to speak at all is remarkable. That she is as resilient and powerful as she is is even more remarkable. And what is really disgusting is that so many people. We've descended to such a level that there were people, particularly on college camp, I with professors what not celebrating the murder of a young man, 31 years old, who had created a revival on college campuses for not only God, but also conservative politics, common sense, drawing crowds that nobody had ever seen. And that's why he was the biggest threat to academia and the left. Unbelievable. Emily Sturge, Campus Reform, joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Emily, how are you today?

[Emily Sturge]

It is great to be with you. I'm doing better now that I get to join the show.

[Rob Carson]

Well, it's always a pleasure to have you on. Did you see any of the interviews yesterday with Erica Kirk? I don't generally watch a lot of them. I find it painful to see her go through this. But I think she's reached a point that she's done. And I'm going to tell you something right now, Emily. I'm done with this bullcrap. I'm done with this bullcrap. The left, if I get confronted, I live in a very liberal bastion enclave in Northern Virginia. And I give it right to the left when they call me out on anything and they collapse immediately. They have no arguments. And it's time we started fighting back.

[Emily Sturge]

You know, Erica, every interview that she's done this week or even immediately after Charlie's death, I mean, she's been go, go, go this whole entire time. It's unreal. Three whole months. She has been so resilient. She has stood her ground. And it's really a master class in how to shut down rumors and how to handle these situations.

[Rob Carson]

Unreal. Go ahead.

[Emily Sturge]

I gotta give credit to students on campuses because even as professors have made vile, disgusting comments saying Charlie Kirk deserved it, I had one story where I covered a professor talking about Charlie Kirk's assassination. She said, white men are dangerous animals. Some of the disgusting comments that came out of the higher education system, and yet conservative students are still fighting on campus.

[Rob Carson]

Erica is still fighting, too, and it's growing, actually. And I said there was going to be a worldwide movement toward freedom. And you add faith to that, because what Charlie Kirk did with regard to faith will resonate and is resonating worldwide. And it is a gigantic movement. And now you got a combination of Donald Trump and what he is doing. Trump, populism and Charlie Kirk's faith. It is a tsunami that the world cannot ignore and the United States can't ignore. I really believe that we're just beginning to see how great things are going to be. I want to talk to you about a number of things. You sent this article. MSU Denver Writing center calls standard American English a tool of white supremacy. This is a way that they dumb down, particularly of people of color. Keep them ignorant, keep them uneducated, keep them angry and dependent. Is that what you would take from this?

[Emily Sturge]

I mean, absolutely. First off, this is starting. The starting point here is universities erasing truth in our classroom. This goes right back to the same exact ideology that's used to deny biological facts. The fact that a man is a man or a woman is a woman. Those facts don't exist in our classrooms. But then also, when I talk about the story, I immediately think about this lowering of standard and this idea of equity replacing academic rigor, and how, I mean, in this story, grammar is suddenly being labeled racist. In fact, I think that it's racist to say that some students can't handle academic rigor based on their skin color. This is the opposite of what our education system needs to be doing.

[Rob Carson]

Well, it's the infantilization. It's the infantilization of the Black population. The Democrat party does this with a lot of different groups. You infantilize them, you make, make them seem like they can't achieve anything because, you know, the world is against them. This is, this is communism and socialism. You punish the achievers and you let the others wallow in their misery and act like they're actually victims. Right.

[Emily Sturge]

And it's not fair to students. It's not fair to their futures. It's not serving them. And these students are going to graduate. And if they can't communicate, they're unemployable. I mean, Generation Z is graduating into a pretty tough labor market. And you know, it feels like for a lot of young people, nobody will hire them. And then we see universities pushing policies like this that makes students less prepared for the job market. I mean, employers need applicants. This shouldn't be controversial. Who can read and write clearly, who can follow instructions, who can communicate professionally? That's not discrimination. That's something. That's a basic requirement for functioning in the workplace and society. And our colleges are doing the opposite. They are not preparing students well.

[Rob Carson]

What they're doing, they're doing here. They're creating a dependent class. They graduate with a worthless degree. They work at Starbucks. And then people like Zoran Mandami boycott Starbucks because they want Starbucks to pay a barista who can be trained in a day. 30, 40, $50 an hour. But they will vote Democrat. They will vote Democrat.

[Emily Sturge]

You're exactly right. And that's why so many Americans are questioning the value of a degree right now. Yes, for the leadership ensues campus reform. The number is now 63% of Americans say a college degree is no longer worth the college.

[Rob Carson]

I love it. And you know what? This is great. Isn't this good? This is really good. This is the comeuppance we've been waiting for a very long time. You got a combination of Donald Trump going after universities, pulling their funding for anti Semitism, etc. And you've got people beginning to realize that higher education had become a cabal of leftists who just brainwash kids. They have worthless degrees. They graduate, they hate their country and they hate their families. I love the fact this is collapsing.

[Emily Sturge]

I do too. And so many students graduate with just enormous amounts of debt. But a trend that I've been seeing is more and more students. I mean, it's not just me saying this. Statistics will tell you. More and more students are packing their bags and heading down south to the southeastern schools because tuition is so much cheaper down there. And yet some of those schools still find a way to balance both academics and affordability. It's a win for parents, it's a win for students. It's those schools, the Ivy, for example, unquote elite universities where it's $70,000 a year tuition. That's not worth it at this point because everything is so politicized. There's pro hamas faculty groups that your professors are a part of. Then you walk out into the middle of campus and there's a protest going on. The classroom is so politicized, students don't want that experience anymore and they're going down south.

[Rob Carson]

And they're also realizing that there is a great deal of joy in being able to make things and build things and being an artisan and whatnot. You don't need to, you know, gradu with a degree and sit in a cubicle all day. You know, there's a school in Kansas where I moved from Kansas, and they are specializing in the customization of classic cars. That's something you can do the rest of your life. You can't be replaced by AI or a robot. It is remarkable. Emily, Serge, can you hold on to the next break? There's a couple of other articles I want to talk about. The more infantilization of college students, care bears play doh and PJ parties and 38% of Stanford students saying they're disabled. And what that's all about on the other side of the break, if you can Hang on.

[Emily Sturge]

Let's do it.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Carl DeMaio]

How are you getting that money? The 700 million to make the buses free into the MCA if she's not for raising taxes? You know, I think that the two clearest ways to raise that money is through the raising of the state's corporate tax tax to match New Jersey. I think that a lot of this is still a case to be made, whether it's the corporate tax or that's the personal income tax on those who make more than a million dollars a year or more. I think that these are the clearest ways. I've also said that if there are other ways to raise this funding, the most important fact is that we fund it. Not the question of how we do it, but that we do it.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, we don't know how we're going to do the funding for all of the things that Zoran Mandami promised New York, but it's important that we do it. That's brilliant, isn't it, Emily?

[Emily Sturge]

Sturge it's not very brilliant, but it doesn't shock me because these are the ideas coming out of our college class.

[Rob Carson]

I know it is. It's remarkable. You know, I just saw this. Gen Z is burning out at work more than any other generation. You know what? Boo friggity who. That's what I have to say to Gen Z. And the reason why is because we're infantilizing Gen Z. We're doing stupid crap. We are. You know, we've got professors at universities. Universities who act like mother hens. You, you forwarded this piece. Care Bears Play doh PJ Party. Colleges help students cope with exams. Dear God, grow a pair. Get your ass in there and take your test for God's sake.

[Emily Sturge]

Infantilization is the key word in the story. And look, it's in the end season right now. Students are sitting down for their finals and universities are choosing to coddle those students by giving them childish activities. You wouldn't believe it. I'll give some examples. Indiana University is giving students Care Bears and hosted a PJ party. Everett Community College is giving students play doh. And engineering students at the University of Illinois Chicago, they're making friendship bracelets and playing with slime. This sounds like a kindergarten birthday party.

[Rob Carson]

This is just. I don't even know what it is. It's bordering on fetishism. I swear to God. It's bizarre that adults would do this to students. I don't know what it is, Emily. I don't know what this is. This is just bizarre to treat adults like this.

[Emily Sturge]

Here is on the higher education system. I don't think the blame isn't just on Generation Z. Look at my generation. My generation is leading a military recruitment boom. 18 year olds who are lining up to serve in our military for the first time in years. All of our military branches just met their recruiting goals because of generation Z. This generation swung to the right in the November election. We talk about really positive statistics of gen zers shifting toward Christianity, Catholicism, conservatism.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Emily Sturge]

Institutional problem in our higher education system.

[Rob Carson]

And these are Gen Z liberals. And these are Gen Z liberals. You know, they're the ones who are, you know, have the gauged ears and decide they want to be the opposite sex, particularly Gen Z young women because they're more susceptible to social contagion. Gen Z and I said this, I said the whole thing. They tried to indoctrinate Gen Z, tell them the masculinity was toxic. That if you wanted to be happy as a girl you got to become A boy. And then they put you through two years of hell, three years of hell with COVID And you know what happened? It brought them together. You separated them, but it brought them together and made them realize how important human contact is, how important you couldn't be with your friends for two years. It taught them that they could be closer to. And you know what the number one media for Gen Z is? It's not video games, it's not, it's listening. It's spoken word, for God's sake. They're listening more to other people than your grandparents did when there was just a radio in the living room. That's how they backfired. Human connection. That's what podcasts are all about. They need to hear other people, they need to be other around other people. So for a good share of Gen Z, it freaking backfired. And that's where the hope is.

[Emily Sturge]

Emily Sturge I love it. And that's the truth. And that's why Charlie Kirk was so successful with the younger generations, is because he actually took the time to talk and sit there and listen. Those campus events were hours, hours and hours long. People were outside all day, just lined up, lined up to hear him. Look, Joe Rogan's podcast, hours long. Generation Z is craving that authenticity and that relatable conversation. Yes, it always, it always goes back to Covid.

[Rob Carson]

No, no flashbang grenade or not grenades, but no flashy, you know, flashy bands and whatnot. Just hearing people talk, it's so amazing. My son listens to podcasts all freaking day, unfortunately doesn't listen to mine because he was brainwashed in college and hates my politics. But at least we're talking.

[Emily Sturge]

Well, you know what, it's the truth generation. Tuning in to podcasts, to TikTok, to social media. And you know what, if you go on TikTok, it's a lot of clips from longer form podcasts. Gen Z hungry, hungry for those conversations.

[Rob Carson]

It's really, I think that's where the hope lies. And you know, Charlie's, Kirk's assassination, really, that's another thing that really backfired on the left. You know, I have some friends who are conservative and they're part of this art collective in where I live. And the rest of the artists are violently left a lot of the times. They have to, the conservatives have to speak in hush tones and I said you nonsense about that. But they're still, they're never going to give up and they're gaining strength and they're beginning to turn things around. The left have Been able to run roughshod. And I think generation Z is going to be the generation that turns this around. And I feel very good things are coming. I think next year is going to be remarkable, Emily, not only for the economy, but for freedom. You got the 250th anniversary of America. You've got a lot of these leftist America haters that's dying. There was a football game a couple of weeks ago. Black couple sang the national anthem. Was one of the greatest national anthem ever. And there were black players and white players crying, weeping on the sidelines with pride for America. I think the future is very bright, Emily.

[Emily Sturge]

I do, too. And I'm about to leave this phone call, this radio call, weeping because I love this country so much.

[Rob Carson]

Amen, sister.

[Emily Sturge]

2025 was remarkable. On the cultural front, we saw di removed from so many aspects of society, our education system, corporate America. We saw some of the culture wars, men taken out of women's sports and locker room. And as we look to 2026, you're right, we're going to see so much success. On the economic front, I'm so excited to see how this president can help deliver the American dream to young people. That's why they voted for him.

[Rob Carson]

And I'm confident. All right, listen, we got to run, but I like to say, Emily and I said last year, which one of the most difficult years we've ever experienced with the persecution of Donald Trump, I we have to overwhelm the left with joy and patriotism. Add faith to that and we've got a winning message. God bless you and yours. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. I look forward to talking to you in the new year. Emily Sturch.

[Emily Sturge]

Merry Christmas and thank you so much.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. Back door santa, baby. Come on. Oh, God, I love music. I love music. I love music. My Spotify account got the report on my Spotify account, and it said that I listened to 16,000 hours of music last year, more than a thousand hours a month. I just think it's so important. It's so glorious. Maybe it's 14,000. There's a hell of a lot of music. I listen to a lot of music. Music is a gift from God. Adam Schiff was on a podcast this week and he's still not admitting he was absolutely wrong. Totally corrupt about Russia collusion. Listen to this awful, evil little man. He talks a lot. I'm sorry. I mean, PEZ dispenser about Russia, Russia, Russia hoax Hoax. Hoax.

[Carl DeMaio]

Did you get anything wrong about this?

[Rob Carson]

That. No, I don't think we got anything wrong. You got everything wrong. I do think that at the end of the investigation, Mueller concluded and I said, you know, throughout the investigation.

[Carl DeMaio]

Robert Mueller?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, Robert Mueller. I said throughout the investigation, this was very possible. No, you're a liar. Here's what you said. That he could not prove the crime of conspiracy. Boundaries. The American people need to know whether the Russians still have something they can hold over the presidency. Had. I could certainly say with confidence that there is significant evidence of collusion between the campaign. There wasn't any.

[Jim Gossett]

Adam Schiff's scared and he ought to be inside of a cell. He's gonna see. Jim guys is going to jail. Human Pez dispenser light on his mortgage. Not one time, but twice. Get a good lawyer. That's my advice. Pencil neck is going to jail.

[Rob Carson]

Please, Santa, send him to jail for me.

[Jim Gossett]

Leak classified information to the New York Times.

[Rob Carson]

Tim Waltz too, by the way.

[Jim Gossett]

Schiff will be prosecuted. He'll hide Omar for his own. So many crimes.

[Rob Carson]

Send them all to jail.

[Jim Gossett]

The Senate seat will be taken away. Adam Schiff, he's gonna pay ransom. Mac is headed to jail.

[Rob Carson]

Come on.

[Jim Gossett]

Watch Adam sweat Lengthy Santa till get. Please, pencil neck. He's headed to jail.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. I think it's a great way to end the show, don't you? Thank you guys for watching and listening today. God bless. Bless you and yours. I'm very optimistic about 2026 and I'm optimistic about tomorrow because it's Friday. God bless you and yours. America has founded Donald Trump as he's making America.