Deep State Busted: John Brennan Indicted

Summary

The Rob Carson Show – Deep State Busted: John Brennan Indicted

Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Rob Carson | Key Guest: Doug Burns (Former Federal Prosecutor)
Notable Segments: Jim Jordan, Donald Trump (clips), Victor Davis Hanson

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Rob Carson Show" dives into explosive political developments, notably the criminal referral of former CIA Director John Brennan for allegedly lying to Congress during the Trump-Russia investigation. Rob Carson blends satire and pointed political commentary while being joined by guest legal analyst Doug Burns to break down the Brennan indictment and related legal news. Other topics include Trump’s impact on the economy, the criticism of White House ballroom renovations, the state of the Democratic Party, and critiques of the left’s strategies.

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Main Topics & Key Discussion Points

1. White House Ballroom Controversy

[00:32 – 05:59]

• Rob Carson opens with sharp criticism of Democrats for purportedly whining about Donald Trump building a new ballroom at the White House, framing their complaints as trivial and hypocritical compared to past renovations by other presidents.
• Claims Trump is delivering real, positive changes with private investments, not taxpayer funds, and contrasts these actions to economic challenges faced under the previous administration.

“Donald Trump, one of the premier real estate developers in the world... is going to build a structure. I hate to tell you this kids, it's gonna be amazing and the building's gonna be around a whole lot longer than your sorry asses.”
— Rob Carson [00:32]

2. Rob Carson’s Birthday & Reflections

[05:59 – 08:32]

• Reflective aside on Carson’s age, wisdom, and his unique insight into current events, offering a personal connection to the audience.

3. Middle East Peace & Trump’s Approach to Hamas

[08:32 – 10:25]

• Clip of Donald Trump discussing handling of Hamas and peace deals in the Middle East.
• Carson and comedian Jim Gossett debut a Trump parody song encapsulating the “F around and find out” approach as the new mantra for the administration.

“We have total peace in the Middle East. We have levels of friendship with everybody... countries that hated each other now love each other.”
— Donald Trump [08:32]

• Notable Parody Moment:

“F around and find out, Mess around and find out... in the end I'm gonna win, win the day.”
— Jim Gossett as Trump [09:24]

4. Government Shutdown & Democrats’ Political Strategy

[11:49 – 15:25]

• Carson accuses Democrats of intentionally prolonging government shutdowns to create public suffering and blame Trump.
• Senator Heinrich’s argument against paying some government employees during shutdown, compared to socialism and “equal misery.”

“The Democrat Party wants people to suffer because they think that Donald Trump will get the blame for it. And they don't care.”
— Rob Carson [11:49]

• Sardonic critique of Senator Chuck Schumer’s leadership, referencing his political decline and the Democratic Party’s troubles.

5. Economic Updates & Positive News Under Trump

[15:41 – 18:48]

• Claims of economic recovery: Trump and Carson tout dropping prices (gasoline, groceries, mortgages), new manufacturing investment, and plans to bring back pharmaceutical production.
• Walmart CEO segment:
  • Pushback on media narratives of economic misery: Walmart Thanksgiving basket costs are down 25% from last year.
  • Discussion ridiculing George Stephanopoulos for being out of touch with everyday Americans.

“Our turkey prices, George, are all the way back to what they were in 2019, at 97 cents... When Donald Trump was president.”
— Walmart CEO [18:27]

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FEATURE: John Brennan’s Indictment & The Deep State

[20:57 – 36:40]

6. Jim Jordan Explains the Case Against John Brennan

[20:57 – 22:20]

• Jordan details evidence that Brennan lied under oath about CIA involvement with the Steele dossier in the Trump-Russia investigation.
• Emphasizes that recent declassification and committee reports confirm Brennan’s deep involvement and motivation to undermine Trump.

“Brennan was up to his eyeballs with the dossier... he was out to get the president, put it in the report... I think, lying to Congress.”
— Jim Jordan [20:57]

7. Deep Analysis with Doug Burns (Former Prosecutor)

[22:20 – 36:40]

• Burns brands Brennan as “most reprehensible” in the so-called ‘deep state’ efforts.
• Lays out the straightforward legal case: Brennan denied under oath the CIA used the dossier in intelligence assessments, when in fact the evidence shows otherwise.
• Discusses nuance in the infamous “51 Intel officers letter” about Hunter Biden: Legal wiggle room with phrases like “all the earmarks of Russian disinformation,” making prosecution unlikely even if public outrage is justified.

“I find Brennan to be the most reprehensible of all of them.... He falsely denied that the CIA relied on the dossier... Both of those are just flat out not complicated.”
— Doug Burns [22:50; 23:40]

• Additional legal talk:

  • Bolton’s classified docs case and the risk of severe consequences (espionage) due to egregious security lapses.
  • The growing role of appellate courts in reining in lower court activism against Trump.

• Potential DOJ and Deep State blowback:

  • Discussion about Trump seeking hundreds of millions in damages from the federal government for “malicious prosecutions” (the Russia investigation, Mar-A-Lago raid, etc.), although practical legal obstacles remain.

“Once again, and I happen to love this about the President, he does these type of maneuvers just to put it out there, and it creates just amazing sort of, A, he head fakes the crap out of left side media...”
— Doug Burns [32:08]

• Critical views of DA Fani Willis’s Georgia case against Trump, labelling the prosecution as absurdly overreaching and her own ethical lapses (travel with boyfriend, timeline of their relationship).

“Her case was among the most idiotic cases I’ve ever seen in 40 years. Absolutely retarded. You got RICO charges... Then she had the whole thing with the boyfriend... she flat out lied through her teeth...”
— Doug Burns [35:47]

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Quickfire Segments & Satirical Commentary

[36:42 – 39:22]

• Victor Davis Hanson comments on the Democratic 'doom loop':

“They're in a doom loop, Laura... and the primary system is going to ensure that this lunatic base is the center of gravity in the party.”
— Victor Davis Hanson [38:10]

• Rob Carson’s recurring motif: Calling the Democratic Party’s trajectory a “death spiral to hell.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Democrats and the Ballroom

“Of all the things Donald Trump, one of the premier real estate developers in the world... you're still bitching and whining about stupid crap. Done, done, done. Honestly, you are speed bumps on our way to greatness, and you need to just get out of the way.”
— Rob Carson [04:14]

On Brennan and the Deep State

“Of all the players... I find Brennan to be the most reprehensible of all of them.”
— Doug Burns [22:50]

“He falsely denied that the CIA relied on the dossier in drafting their post-2016 election intelligence community assessment... Not complicated.”
— Doug Burns [23:40]

On Economic Optimism

“Gasoline prices are way down. Grocery prices are way down. Energy prices are way down. Mortgage rates are down.”
— Donald Trump [15:51]

“Our turkey prices... are all the way back to what they were in 2019... So we're really excited about the progress.”
— Walmart CEO [18:27]

On the Left’s Strategy

“The Democrat Party wants people to suffer because they think that Donald Trump will get the blame for it.”
— Rob Carson [11:49]

“It's equal misery. It's never equal success.”
— Rob Carson [13:22]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:32: Ballroom segment & Democratic complaints
• 08:32: Trump on Hamas and Middle East Peace
• 09:24: Jim Gossett's parody song
• 11:49: Discussion of the government shutdown strategy
• 15:41: Economic “winning” under Trump
• 18:27: Walmart CEO refutes negative economic narrative
• 20:57: Jim Jordan explains criminal referral of John Brennan
• 22:20: Doug Burns on legal case against Brennan
• 35:47: Burns’ harsh critique of Fani Willis case
• 38:10: Victor Davis Hanson on Democrats’ “doom loop”

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Final Thoughts & Tone

Rob Carson maintains an energetic, irreverent, and combative tone—mixing news breakdowns with biting satire. The episode characterizes recent political and legal developments as a turning tide against the “deep state” and the Democrats, highlighting perceived hypocrisy, supposed judicial overreach, and media misinformation. The show closes on a note of triumphalism about Trump’s administration, legal wins, and economic improvements, delivered with Carson’s signature blend of humor and pointed commentary.

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For listeners who missed the episode, this summary delivers both a granular breakdown of the developments regarding John Brennan and broader context on Trump-era political battles, all in Rob Carson’s original voice and style.

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

Hold it.

[Walmart CEO]

Now.

[Doug Burns]

You are about to hear the.

[Rob Carson]

Most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on.

[Doug Burns]

The World Wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

Ballroom. You know what? You Democrats, you whiny little B words who are complaining about Donald Trump building a ballroom that people have been complaining about at Capitol Hill forever and Presidents have said they need a new ballroom, you know, and all of a sudden the one of the premier real estate developers who's built incredible buildings the world round and in Washington D.C. reinventing the Manhattan skyline. You're compl that Donald Trump is going to build a structure. I hate to tell you this kids, it's gonna be amazing and the building's gonna be around a whole lot longer than your sorry asses. So get the hell over it. I mean of everything you complain about. My God, will you people just get a friggin grip. Geez. I mean of all the things Donald Trump, one of the premier real estate developers in the world who has built some amazing golf courses, buildings, everything, owns Mar a Lago, which is a. I both by the way, I posted on social media the the inside of Mar A Lago. I did a video because I was invited for dinner there. Thank you very much Mr. Chris Ruddy of Newsmax and the President and I showed the ballroom there. It's pretty dang nice ballroom. I mean it's not your typical, you know, I've been to some wedding receptions of those halls that have like eight different little ballrooms in them and everything. And you know earlier they're catered by kfc. Nothing wrong with kfc. But this ain't KFC here people. And for all of the things you can whine about, how about shut the hell up. Honestly, I'm so done with the left right now. So done with you people. It is ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous that you would complain about such a thing when the thing is going to get is going to get finished on time. It's going to look absolutely amazing. It is under construction now and there's nothing you can do about it. So how about kmb? How about kmb? Here's some of the caterwauling about the ballroom. It is hard to watch that and it's hard to believe that any president could destroy the White House. To take literally a wrecking ball to the White House. It's grotesque, just grotesque. You don't own that building. That is the people's building. You don't own it. You don't own it.

[Donald Trump]

Take it down. You don't own it.

[Rob Carson]

Take your.

[Doug Burns]

There's no greater metaphor right now than, than what's happening right now in this country than watching Donald Trump take a.

[Rob Carson]

Wrecking ball to the White House. Like the powers that are in the.

[Doug Burns]

The. The DC Are not standing up. They're acting as if they're powerless.

[Rob Carson]

How about just shut up? You. You. You write a book, by the way. Corinne Jean Pierre, who was a DEI hire, terrible, terrible press spokesperson. Who. Who. 10 Biden's walking corpse. Like Renfield did Dracula, and now she's doing a book. I didn't know he actually had dementia. I didn't. I'm the only person other than, I don't know Jake Tapper who didn't know he had dementia. Honestly. He just, you know, released hostages from Israel. We've been waiting forever. They were going to return home in boxes. He's secured a peace deal in the Middle East. He's working one on Ukraine. He did six others. The border is closed. The economy is rocking. $17 trillion coming into the economy. You're throwing these stupid temper tantrums like the no things. And now you're complaining that he's going to make incredible structure on the White House grounds that people have been asking for, for years. Barack Obama converted a tennis court into a basketball court. Okay. Wow. Oh, my God, that's hard. Take down the net, run a line of paint, put up a hoop. There you go. Wow, that's a big deal. This guy's actually found investors, companies that want to be a part of history, that want to help out. Not going to cost us any money at all. You weren't complaining when Joe Biden was the president and every metric of quality of life descended into the crapper like the price of groceries going through the ceiling. 50% groceries increase, cars 50% more. Homes doubled in price. Interest rates tripled. All of that happened. You could have given rats behind less. We're living in a time of plenty where we're beginning to see the light. America is strong again. The military is strong again. Donald Trump is kicking butt and taking names after you try to put him in jail to take his fortune and murder him. And you're still bitching and whining about stupid crap. Done, done, done. Honestly, you are speed bumps on our way to greatness, and you need to just get out of the way. How's that sound? I think it sounds kind of good. Welcome to the show. Please come inside. It's my birthday today. It's a little complicated because I'll just explain to you. I officially, I guess, recognize 22 October as my birthday. I do this for legal reasons, because the last birth certificate that I had, I had two birth certificates. I was a very large baby, but I had two birth certificates, one at birth and one when I was adopted by my stepfather when I was 11. The one at birth said I was born on October 23rd. The one when I was adopted, my father was the 22nd. I had always referred to the 23rd as my birthday because that makes me a Scorpio. So there you go.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

And.

[Rob Carson]

And it is. It is an old birthday. It's one of those old birthdays. The last three old birthdays, people said, you're old, you're old, you're old. 30, 40, 50. There you go. And now I know. I know that one. That one. I remember Rush Limbaugh used to say, I can't wait to get older. I was like, what? You're out of your nut, man. I can't wait to get older. Why? Why would you want to be older, Rush? Why? And then I realized, and I've realized this the last five years, and it came around at the right time from age 55 to where I am now. There's something that happens to your mind, combined with life experience, that opens you up to insights perhaps you would not have had as a younger person. I will cite AOC as an example. She's a moron. Although there are some people who are advanced age far older than me, like Bernie Sanders, who never learn anything. But fortunately, I feel like my brain is crystallized and I'm able to see things like most people can't. We bring insight to this radio program that is ahead of the other shows. We led opinion the last five years as the left went after Donald Trump. We saw through all of the nonsense surrounding Covid, all of the nonsense surrounding disinformation and misinformation. I saw that, and I attribute my life experience for that. And so I'm grateful for it. And I, you know, I did look on Twitter. I posted some pictures. I think it looked pretty damn good for a man of my age, to be quite honest. It is kind of strange to be divorced at this age. It's weird because the last time I dated versus now, only older women want to vote me, date me. When did that happen? It's weird. It's just kind of weird. Anyway, Donald Trump was on fire yesterday. He talked about Hamas. Listen to this. And by the way, Jim Gossett came up with a new parody that I wrote with him. I came up with the idea because it's a song that I knew because I know a lot about music. I've done big band, I've done alternative, I've done rock, I've done hot ac. I've done classical. I know everything. I know everything from show tunes to whatever. Every popular song from 1955 through about 2015, I know them all. I have a encyclopedia of, you know, stuff up here that's not very useful until we come up with parodies. But I asked him to write this. I'm going to play it in a second. But first I'm going to set it up with this. Donald Trump talking about Hamas yesterday.

[Donald Trump]

The Hamas situation, where they're. They're pretty violent people. I would say that we could put that out in two minutes. We're giving them a chance. You know, they agreed that they'd be very good, very, very straight. They wouldn't be killing people. And they have killed people. That wasn't the deal we made. But if we. If they don't honor the deal, they'll be taken care of very quickly. But I'd rather not have to do that. But we have total peace in the Middle East. We have levels of friendship with everybody and. And every countries that hated each other now love each other.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. So Hamas is doing the old fafo, which has become quite popular. It's bleep around and find out. And that's going to be the official theme song of this administration. Now this is Jim Gossett as the president.

[Donald Trump]

Portland, I set in the guard and chief they are gonna get your heart. The Democrat mayor's getting in my way. Go ahead, punks and make my day F around and find out F around and find out Schumer's gonna find out I mean business and I'll get my way. Pencil neck and Chris Fray for your Grimes you will pay. You have both been found out. Hope you get a lengthy prison stay. Listen up, Hamas, I am warning you Break the ceasefire and you'll be through. Democrats hang your head in shame for the shutdown you gonna get the blame F around and find out Mess around and find out F around and find out in the end I'm gonna win, win the day.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. That is brand new from Jim Gossip. Find out F around and find out. That's the new. The. The new theme song for this administration after 10 years of nonsense from the left. 10 years of attacks, 10 years of caterwauling and temper tantrums. Do it, please F around and find out on all of this. Anyway, welcome to the show. We've Got a lot of stuff happening. Doug Byrne's gonna join us to talk about John Brennan's indictment. Yeah, he bleeped around and find it. Found out, didn't he? That's coming up. And this, my friends, is the Rob Carson Show.

[Donald Trump]

The Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere. Go to newsmax.com listen for details. I'd love to meet with them. I just want them to open up the country first. You know, the country is so hot right now, and they've never voted against, you know, continuation. They've never voted again. They've never done that. They're doing this because they have Trump derangement syndrome. But I will. I would love to meet. I would like to meet with both of them. But I said one little caveat. I will only meet if they let the country open. They have to let the country open. The people want to go back to work. They want to be served. They want to. They need the services of some people. And a lot of people need the money, the payroll. So I'll do it. As soon as they open up the country, I'd like to meet.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, but see, the Democrat Party wants people to suffer because they think that Donald Trump will get the blame for it. And they don't care. They don't care if people suffer. They don't care if people miss their house payments or the car payments or whatever. They just don't care. All that matters to them is that Donald Trump is blamed for it. And it really is a disgusting, disgusting way to govern. But this is how the Democrat Party is. This is why they're in their death spiral to hell. That's what I call it. And you know what? I'm right. So there you go. Here is Senator Heinrich. Heinrich talking about the government shutdown. Now, Donald Trump has the opportunity to pay some government employees, like the military and whatnot. But this guy says, no, don't do that. And he says it's because it would be unfair. What it is, is he wants the misery to be spread completely. He doesn't want some people to be happy. Some Republican senators have pushed a bill that would government workers who have not been furloughed as part of the government shutdown, those who have been furloughed would still be without pay. Is this something you would support? I'm not going to pit some of my government employees against other. Nobody would do that. Nobody would go, oh, you're getting paid. We hate you government employees.

[Walmart CEO]

I think that just gives the President.

[Rob Carson]

More leverage to really. No, you want everyone to suffer. That's what you're doing, make the situation.

[Walmart CEO]

Worse and treat some government employees with incredible disdain. We've already seen a lot of government.

[Rob Carson]

Employees fired during the shutdown. Yeah, I know you guys did that because now Trump can shrink the size of the government. You morons who didn't need to be fired. This because they were non essential and they were probably hired when Joe Biden increased the size of the Federal government by 60% is an administration that's very hostile to government employees. I have a lot of those folks in my state and I'm not going to turn my back on. I would say that refusing all of them their pay is pretty hostile. Again, this is. And then, by the way, it's kind of a metaphor for socialism. It's equal misery. It's never equal success. It's equal misery. It's bringing down the boats of these people up here to this level. So everybody's equally miserable. Not bringing people up. That's just the way socialism is. But you know what? They're so stupid. They wouldn't know that. They wouldn't know that. So. Oh, here's, here's Donald Trump giving Chuck Schumer a little what for. I just love this. And this is one of the great things, the master classes in, in, in. I guess throwing is what Donald Trump does really well. He does it so beautifully. Does it so beautifully. And it's, it's not, it's not name calling. It's actually true because Chuck Schumer is. I mean, his career is over, but.

[Donald Trump]

He would be, I would say he would be the leader of the party. It's not Schumer. Schumer shot. He shot this poor guy. I feel sorry for him. I don't know him for a long time, but he's, I think he's mentally gone. He's been beat up by young.

[Rob Carson]

He, he looks like a gargoyle with osteoporosis.

[Donald Trump]

Radical lunatics. And I think Chuck Schumer is, he's gonzo. I really do. I think he's probably not going to run. It shows that he's losing in every poll. Now, this is hard. You know, he wants to meet with me. Sort of hard to be with a guy after I make a statement like that. But I'm just giving the facts. I think Chuck is probably finished. I know some people, Democrats, that would be good. Some good politicians and some, you know, reasonable people. Yeah, I know, but I understand that they would not have a chance of, you know, getting even the concept of.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Because the Democrat Party is in A death spiral to hell. That's the reason why somebody with common sense is going to take over. Hey, you know what? I got some good news. Let's do some good news. We love to win. Winning, winning.

[Donald Trump]

So much winning. It's lots of winning.

[Rob Carson]

Lots of winning. Lots of winning. Lots of winning. Lots of winning, Lots of winning, lots of winning. Oh, so good. Yeah, the economy is, is absolutely kicking some butt. Here is Donald Trump with some of the, the good news.

[Donald Trump]

Gasoline prices are way down. Grocery prices are way down. Energy prices are way down. Mortgage rates are down. We have a real stiff at the Federal Reserve. I can't help that.

[Rob Carson]

True. Yeah.

[Donald Trump]

But he's going to be leaving soon and inflation has been defeated. But even though his rates are too high, we're we. The economy has been amazing.

[Rob Carson]

Yep, yep, yep. We'd have an even better economy if we didn't have a tool in charge of the Federal Reserve keeping the, the interest rates high. Intentionally. He brought him down when Joe Biden was running for president. Although Joe Biden doesn't remember that because his brain is gone. So there is that yesterday on, on, I guess George Stephanopoulos. No, this was Sunday. I'm assuming George Stephanopoulos had the CEO from Walmart on and he wanted to tell the, the CEO of Walmart, you know, that things are absolutely terrible and the economy. Let me find it here real quick. I think that's not the bite I want, so let me grab it here real quick. I run all my own audio. That's what I do. I'm the only person who does it. Here is, here is George Stephanopoulos going after the CEO in Walmart, trying to convince the CEO of Walmart that everything is terrible with Donald Trump as the President. Even though inflation is flat, it doubled during Joe Biden's administration. Here's the exchange and it's brilliant.

[Donald Trump]

Thanksgiving first, food prices are up, especially turkey. So what are you doing to help customers keep the cost down?

[Jim Jordan]

Well, good morning, George.

[Walmart CEO]

It's great to see you. We are really.

[Rob Carson]

George Stephanopoulos hasn't been and shopped at a grocery store in 25 years, maybe 30 years. He has no friggin clue. He lives in Georgetown, for God's sake. Yeah, he lived in a town that has his first name. Probably because he has an ego about it.

[Walmart CEO]

Excited about what we have planned for this year, Thanksgiving. And I can't believe it's already that time of year. But this is a time of year when people are busy. They don't want to sacrifice quality and we want to do all we can to help them celebrate the holiday any way they want. And we want to do it in a way that's very, should do that.

[Rob Carson]

With those, those packages. You do Thanksgiving with the meal that's already pre prepared and everything. That's got to be real expensive now, right?

[Walmart CEO]

Affordable with a lot of value. So yeah, I want to talk about a couple of things with the Thanksgiving basket.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Walmart CEO]

You know, first we started putting together this idea of having the entire basket easy to purchase, easy to assemble back in 2022. And this year we will have the best prices on this basket we've had since the program started. We're.

[Rob Carson]

Wait, wait, hold on. The economy's going to hell in hand Gap basket and Donald Trump is destroying the country.

[Walmart CEO]

We're down about 25% from last year. Down about $14 for the basket, which.

[Rob Carson]

Puts us, Joe Biden deserves, deserves to be on Mount Rushmore. How could you say that in a.

[Walmart CEO]

Position where this basket is just under $4 a person when serving 10 people? So we have a great basket that has a mix of our great brand.

[Rob Carson]

That sounds like something to be thankful for.

[Walmart CEO]

And like Butterball turkeys. Our turkey prices, George, are all the way back to what they were in 2019 at 97 cents when Donald Trump.

[Rob Carson]

The president then pounds.

[Walmart CEO]

So we're really excited about the progress. I was really impressed when the team brought me this. It was better than I expected. So we're looking forward to great holiday season and we want to help people celebrate any way they want and do it at a great Walmart.

[Rob Carson]

Pretty cool. And it's. That's pretty cool. So the price of everything is down and in $17 trillion of new manufacturing is coming back to the United States and prescription drug prices are down and, and we're gonna start making drugs here in the country. Not meth, in trailer parks in Arkansas. No, no, no actual prescription drugs gonna be made here. I mean, there's so much good you just can't even imagine. But the left is trying to act like it's terrible and it's not working. The lies. You can't make the lies big enough to cover up the goodness. Sorry. Sucks to be you, don't it? Yeah. Doug Burns coming up to talk about Jim Jordan referring John Brennan to the DOJ for criminal prosecution. Oh, my God. Happy days. Another thing to be thankful for coming up. Don't go anywhere. Hey, guys, it's Carson for get fresh olive oil. I eat olive oil every day. I got rid of seed oils years ago. Life is too short to not have wonderful fresh olive oil. And I mean fre. Olive oil packs the most flavor and healthy ingredients when it's fresh from the farm. And that's the problem with supermarket olive oils. They're not fresh. They could sit on the shelf for months, growing stale. That's why I get my olive oil from small, award winning farms thanks to a fellow named T.J. robinson, also known as the olive oil hunter. When I tasted TJ Farms fresh olive oils, I fell in love with their vibrant, grassy flavors. They were incredibly delicious on salad, veggies, pasta, meat, fish, you name it. And as an introduction to his fresh pressed Olive Oil Club, TJ is willing to send you a full size $39 bottle of one of the world's finest artisanal olive oils fresh from the new harvest for just $1 to help him cover shipping. There's no commitment to buy anything now or later. Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 and taste the difference freshness makes. Go to getfreshrobcarson.com that's getfreshrobcarson.com for a free bottle and pay just $1 shipping. Get fresh robcarson.com.

[Jim Jordan]

But you're definitely not supposed to lie when you're under oath in front of the United States Congress. And it looks like that's exactly what John Brennan did. And one of the individuals he lied to is the host of the Matt Gaetz Show. When you asked him I thought a great question about the dossier and he said, I had no involvement with the dossier, he told the committee that he didn't want the dossier in any way referenced in the intelligence community assessment. But guess what? Tulsi Gabbard released the classified version. She declassified the HIPC report and it says just the opposite. It says Brennan was up to his eyeballs with the dossier that he actually put in writing. He wanted it in the report. And the best one was when another CIA official came to Mr. Brennan and said, you know, Mr. Brennan, there's no intelligence to support the dossier. It's ridiculous. It shouldn't be in this report. He says, yeah, but doesn't it ring true? Which I think got to his motive. He was out to get the president, put it in the report, the report that they took up to President Trump when he was President elect Trump in January of 2017 and shared with him. They were out to get him. And so based on your good questions, we got him, I think, lying to Congress. And so that's why we did. We don't do many of these referrals. It's got to be there, but it sure looks like it was. And that's why we're sending it to the Justice Department.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. That is Jim Jordan talking about a criminal referral for John Brennan, who is a scumbag supreme. That's what I'll just call him, a scumbag supreme. The guy was obviously political apparatchik, is about as evil as they become as they come. And to talk about this because he's much more knowledgeable about this stuff than I am is Doug Burns from Doug Burns Law, former federal prosecutor and he joins us on the Newsmax hotline. How are you today, sir?

[Doug Burns]

Good, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

So what's is he in some hot agua?

[Doug Burns]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean he, you know, you might find this interesting coming out of my mouth. Of all the players in what we'll just very reasonably call the deep state effort and conspiracy to undermine Donald Trump at all costs, misusing levers of power, misusing institutions of our government, misusing both the justice process and the intelligence process. Of all the players in it, I find Brennan to be the most reprehensible of all of them. Don't ask me why, although you can ask me why. I watched the guy on and on and on on cable segments, holier than thou sanctimonious, you know, lecturing everybody, pontificating. But the reality is I'm looking down because I have in front of me the six page letter from Jim Jordan to Pam Bondi, the attorney general. And then I have a another synthesis sheet. And basically, you know, while the left of course will try to make it, you know, complicated and obfuscatory. It's very, very, very simple. Okay. He falsely denied that the CIA relied on the dossier in drafting their post2016 election intelligence community assessment ICA. He falsely denied that under oath on May 11th of 2023 before Congress. And he told the committee with a straight face, I'll add that editorial that the CIA opposed including the dosse information in that report. Both of those are just flat out not complicated. Not complicated.

[Rob Carson]

Is he going to be in trouble for the the letter getting the CIA and other deep staters signing about Hunter Biden's laptop. Do you suppose that this is just the beginning of some other things that that will come out? Do you have any idea?

[Doug Burns]

There was a trick in that letter which I'll explain by reference to something that I always found really, really funny. And I think you'll get a kick out of this. There was an Article one time years ago about writing bulletproof legal proof recommendation letters. Seriously, somebody says, Rob, Mr. Carson, can you write me a recommendation letter? I'm leaving the station, you know, and I'm trying for another job. So you would write. You ready? I'm pleased to say that they are a former employee. You will be fortunate to get them to work for you. And the point is, all jokes aside, these are double edged phrases that could mean, you know, I'm pleased to say that they no longer work here. You get my point?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Doug Burns]

Letter, that 51 letter, which was a disgrace, they left. And I've discussed this with you before, they said that the thing had all the earmark of Russian disinformation. So they were smart to put that wiggle room in there. Had they said it is clearly or plainly or definitely Russian disinformation, that would have been a different legal thing. Now morally, the public is entitled to be outraged by it and I'm glad they are because they know it was really, really sleazy beyond, oh, it has all the earmarks of Russian disinformation. And by the way, if you pull out the cable clips, you may see them having slipped and said more aggressively without the earmark wiggle room in there. You know, you have to look at some of the videos, but the point is that one's less likely to result in liability. But I'll tell you right now, just to double back to what we started with. I mean, you know, falsely denying that the CIA relied on the dossier, telling the committee the CIA didn't want to put that in there. I mean, they got them debt to rights on that.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. You've also got, I heard the other day, you know, we talked the other day about the Bolton classified documents case and I've heard people say that he could spend the rest of his life in prison because of this. Because not only was he sharing these, this information via aol, who the hell uses AOL with his wife and his daughter, but also that it was hacked by the Iranians. That's espionage. What do you think? I mean, do you think, oh, oh, and by the way, you got some of these, these judges who've been handed these cases, including this, the, the same Obama appointed judge who blocked President Trump's travel ban ruled that against Elon Musk and Doge gutted safeguards for chemical abortions. Judge Theodore Huang has now been assigned to oversee the John Bolton case. So is this jackass going to try and is going to, is he going to tinker with this and should he be. And should he recuse himself?

[Doug Burns]

Yeah, I mean, fortunately. And we've seen this play out over.

[Rob Carson]

And over and over.

[Doug Burns]

It just happened the other day. We were discussing, I think, the Portland thing, you know, how a district judge is blocking the use of the National Garden. And lo and behold, later in the day, boom, I see on the sites that an Appeals court, the Ninth Circuit, of all courts, liberal, upheld it 2 to 1. So the point is, the appellate courts right now, not to be corny, are playing a huge, huge role in all of this Trump separation of powers nonsense. I'm going to call it, you know, looking at it from 30,000ft. We've discussed this. When you lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court, Obviously, their only last frontier is to try to run to individual district courts and have them go out of their lane and start making policy determinations as opposed to legal rulings. And this is what it is. But the appellate courts have been cutting it back. Now, you raised a really good point, which is that this is really sort of inside baseball, practical and real world. And that is, having tried a lot of cases, me, who the judge is and what their orientation is can play a big, big role, however, in the Bolton case, though. So it's going to be pretty hard even for a judge who subliminally or even more overtly is against the case. It's going to be hard to tap dance around the obvious, which is, as you said, he's using aol. Are you kidding me? No disrespect to aol, but at the highest levels of government, you would think they would be using a heck of a lot more secured stuff than that. He's sharing it with his wife and his daughter. He gets hacked. And the guy's beyond arrogant. You made the key point, Million Dollar Point the other day. You said basically that they never thought that Trump would get reelected.

[Rob Carson]

Of course.

[Doug Burns]

1,000%. Right. And that's largely why they behaved the way they did, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, I know. I've got a few more things that I want to cover with you, including the Justice Department scrutinizing a trip Fanny Willis took with her boyfriend to the Bahamas. It was a work trip. Yeah. And then also, Donald Trump is going to get hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal government for its investigations and persecutions of him. If you could hold on, Doug, I'd love to cover those on the other side of the break. Sound good?

[Doug Burns]

Yeah, my pleasure.

[Rob Carson]

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[Doug Burns]

Yeah, possibly. I mean, that one, you got to be objective and you got to call.

[Rob Carson]

It like it is.

[Doug Burns]

In other words, he's the head of the Justice Department. A point conveniently forgotten, obviously by the left when they rail on and on about how, you know, he, he took an action in a case. What are you talking about? The Attorney General of the United States report reports directly to the President. So the point is he'd be settling the case with himself. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so. But again, that's not the end of the discussion. He could turn around and recuse himself, you know, and have other officials, you know, take the mantle on the matter. But again, I have zero hesitancy in predicting that once again, and I happen to love this about the President, he does these type of maneuvers just to put it out there, and it creates just amazing sort of A, he head fakes the crap out of left side media who gets all over their ski tips, and you'll be hearing that exact argument, I just said he can't settle the case with himself. And then B, he doesn't do it, he walks away and he just makes them look that much more foolish.

[Rob Carson]

So we got a couple of things. Seeking damage for a number of purported violations of his rights, including the special investigation into Russia collusion, which was bull crap. And then also the raid on Mar A Lago. The raid on Mar A Lago as well. It's the second claim. Accused Merrick Garland, then Attorney General, Christopher Wray, then FBI Director, and Jack Smith, the special counsel investigating Mr. Trump at the time of harassment intended to sway the electoral outcome. This malicious prosecution led President Trump to spend tens of millions of dollars defending the case and his reputation.

[Doug Burns]

Yeah, when the history books are written, it'll be crystal, crystal clear. Obviously, what I said earlier, just repeating my concept, which is that, you know, while we always had political dirty tricks, political fighting going all the way Back to like 1800 Thomas Jefferson Adams, never before had we seen the weaponization of something like the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which after all, gives you the ability to say, this is the FBI saying this. That's the whole basis of the misuse of it. So there's just no question. I mean, you have the book, the Russia hoax, It lays out the whole thing. And the bottom line is that this was just totally, totally, totally disgraceful. As far as the raid on Mar a Lago, another, you know, nerd law point which I have to make. And that is, it was completely and totally outrageous. I called somebody who had been Associate Deputy Attorney General. That's the person who's, you know, right under the dagger. And I said, I said, I'm not trying to be cute, but what if some agents came into your office back in the day and said they wanted to search Kenny Bunkport? What would you have said? He said, get the F out of my office. So that was completely absurd what they did. But legally, that won't get anywhere because all you need is probable cause to do a warrant. But the point is, it violated every norm known to mankind. All you need to do is a subpoena. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to do it at the level of a search warrant. So, again, the bottom line is, you know, when we ruminate about all of this, it's just remarkable that the American public saw through the whole lawfare thing. It really is amazing.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it is. And there is going to be hell to pay. Justice. You got about another minute. Justice Department scrutinizes a trip Fonny Willis took to the Bahamas. She went on, supposedly, a training session with Vera Cosa Group, a company that employs former prosecutors and others training and consulting prosecutors offices around the country. She went down there. She met her boyfriend down there. We know that she was removed from the case. The. The supposed election fraud case. Donald Trump was trying to turn over the. The election results in Georgia, which is a bunch of crap. What do you think is going to come from this?

[Doug Burns]

First of all, her case was among the most idiotic cases I've ever seen in 40 years. Absolutely retarded. You got RICO charges. Are you kidding me? Racketeering, which is used for organized crime, drug dealing, and so forth. Then she had the whole thing with the boyfriend. And by the way, while we're on the topic of lying, she flat out lied through her teeth about when the relationship started. So we'll see what happens. I mean, she should clearly be disbarred. I mean, is she still in office? I don't even know that.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you know, when that was happening? I said, when they were looking for people to go after Donald Trump, you had to. You had to decide what came first, the stupid or the corrupt. With her, I think it was an even race.

[Doug Burns]

That's a tie. Tie goes to the runner.

[Rob Carson]

Robert, thank you. They broke the tape at the same time. Stupid and corrupt. Doug Burns, thanks for joining me, man. Have a glorious rest of Your week.

[Doug Burns]

All right, thanks for having me on. Talk to you soon.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show, Rage against the Machine. They're a Gen X band, I'm a Gen Xer, and they're awesome. Sometimes their music is not spot on politically. They say some things that are rather inflammatory and incorrect politically and, and historically. But, you know, they're, they're musicians. They do that. Right? They just do that. You know, we were talking about how George Stephanopoulos tried to get the chairman of Walmart, the owner of Walmart or whatever, the CEO, to say that, oh, grocery prices are terrible and life's going to hell. And he said, no, man. He goes, things are 25% cheaper than they were last year. And Victor Davis Hansen has some thoughts on that.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Yeah, the CEO is basically saying, George, we had 20 to 30% inflation under Biden and now we've done all we can under a new administration and it's working and it's declining. And we're back to almost Trump's first term.

[Rob Carson]

Now, the interesting thing here, I want you. I came up with the expression, the Democrat Party is in a death spiral to hell. Okay. That's the copyright Rob Carson death spiral to hell. Dying like movie vampires. But. But Victor Davis Hansen has a different way to put it. He'll get in a second.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

So that was pretty damn. They're in a doom loop, Laura. The primary people that are running, they're.

[Rob Carson]

In a doom loop. He calls it a doom loop. I call it a descent spiral into hell. So, you know, somewhere, maybe it's a doom loop spiraling into hell.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

And they know that they have to oppose Trump in every aspect on crime, on the border, that are very popular, what he's doing, and that gets them nominated. But then that very act of coming out against Trump and shutting down the government, that loses you in the general election.

[Rob Carson]

It does.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

And so they don't really, they think.

[Rob Carson]

They'Re going to win the midterms.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

They have a formula you can get. Sometimes a party goes very radical and they can win. They put these primary candidates and then they can do well in the general election. If you have a charismatic Obama or Bill Clinton and they're on the wrong side of the issues, but they don't have any charismatic leaders or any politicians that are skilled at least that they would nominate, and they're on the wrong side of the issues. And the primary system is going to ensure that this lunatic base is the center of gravity in the party. So I don't know how they're going to get out of it unless they get another big defeat in 2028 or maybe even in the midterm. Yeah, and they're in a doom loop.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, they're in a doom loop. Coming up next, we're going to be talking about kjp. She was out doing the rounds for her stupid book that nobody is buying. And some of the nonsense she's saying about Joe Biden being a really good human being. My God, are you kidding me? Sicking the you know the federal government on traditional Catholics and school board parents. He's an evil sob. There's no lying about that. And then also what was no Kings Abounds. Was it a trial run for a civil war and a deposition of Donald Trump? Yeah, yeah, Mike Benz shared that. It's coming up in the second hour of the show. If I were you, I wouldn't go anywhere. Morning Zoe. Got donuts. Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage? Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T Mobile commercial like you teach me. So Dana. Oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system. Wow, impressive. Let me try. T Mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network. Nice. Jeffrey, you heard them. T Mobile is the best place to get the new iPhone 17 Pro on us with eligible traded in any condition.

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