Defund the Brain: Rob Carson vs. The Crazy Cat Lady Candidate

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Podcast Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: "Defund the Brain: Rob Carson vs. The Crazy Cat Lady Candidate"
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Radio)
Notable Guests: Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson, Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, Caroline Levitt

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show mixes political satire, sharp commentary, and investigative discussion. Carson targets key political and cultural topics, including a controversial congressional race in Tennessee ("crazy cat lady" candidate), border security and crime, welfare and immigration fraud, and broader issues of government mismanagement. Laced with humor and outrage, Carson dissects these issues with co-hosts, guests, and signature irreverent flair.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Tennessee Congressional Race: "Crazy Cat Lady" Candidate

• [02:08] Rob dubs a Democratic congressional hopeful as an "insane crazy cat lady, Karen," criticizing her positions (anti-police, anti-country music, anti-Christianity, pro-tax hike).
• Carson slams her prior support for defunding the police and positions on ICE, framing her as unfit for public office.
• [04:36-05:00] Clip features the candidate dodging questions about whether she still supports reallocating police funds:

  "I think it depends on what the community wants."
  Carson mocks, “See, you didn't answer the question. So you haven't changed your mind? Dear God, what the hell? Honestly. Buffoon.” – Rob Carson

Notable Quote:

"She's everything that caused Kamala Harris to get destroyed in 2024. But they're spending a buttload of money on her in the state of Tennessee. And I hope to hell that the state of Tennessee is smarter than this."
— Rob Carson, [02:15]

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2. Immigration, Crime & Welfare System Abuse

ICE and Sanctuary Policies

• [05:19-06:30] Carson contextualizes radical left’s stance on ICE, ICE raids, and sanctuary policies. He references New York quietly releasing ~7,000 criminal migrants without notifying ICE:

  "This is how radical the left is in this country. This is how badly they want a civil war."
  — Rob Carson, [06:30]

The Immigrant Welfare "Scam"

• [08:31-11:03] Steve Hilton's anecdote about an Afghani immigrant in California receiving $7,000/month in welfare while requesting cash payment to avoid losing benefits:

  "How much is that? $7,000 a month. That is $84,000 a year here in California."
  — Steve Hilton, [08:40]
  Carson quips, “You guys are getting screwed in California. Minnesota, they're not even buying you dinner or using lube.” [09:00]

• Carson details massive fraud in Minnesota and California welfare and social service systems.

State-by-State: Welfare and Illegal Immigration Impacts

• Illinois [11:28-13:10]:

  • Sen. Dave Syverson explains that Illinois state taxpayers fully fund illegal immigrant healthcare — often receiving better coverage than citizens on Medicaid.
  • Additional taxpayer-funded benefits: free daycare, housing, food and cash subsidies to noncitizens.

  "Our low income struggling families in Illinois on Medicaid, they do not get as good a services as these non-citizens."
  — Sen. Syverson, [12:02]

• Minnesota [15:16-20:56]:

  • Carson and guests allege massive, systemic fraud in the Somali immigrant community, including autism diagnosis scams, vote harvesting, and misuse of social services.

  "They came up with every kind of way to steal from feeding our future. $250 million to feed supposedly 1.5 billion for faking autism diagnoses."
  — Rob Carson, [16:08]

  • 91% of those charged in the most recent fraud sweep are Somali [20:42].
  • Political obstruction: "The reason why they're allowed to happen is because they are a core voting bloc." [20:56]

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3. National Security, Narco-Terrorism, and the Military

Cartel Crackdown

• [14:05-14:12]:
  • Guest lauds the administration’s aggressive strikes against narco-terrorists:

    "We've only just begun striking narco boats and putting narco terrorists at the bottom of the ocean because they've been poisoning the American people."
    — Guest, [14:05]
    Carson: “I absolutely love it.” [14:12]

Military Orders & Sedition

• [22:12-26:18]:
  • Recap of military leaders’ public video urging troops to disobey "illegal" Trump orders; Carson and Lt. Col. Shaffer argue it is a call for sedition/mutiny.

  “This seditious call for essentially rebellion and mayhem, mutiny if you will…”
  — Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, [23:49]

  • Shaffer reassures that anti-narco operations follow strict, legal guidelines, denouncing "war crime" claims:

    "There’s a process, it's been refined over 30-plus years. This was done like any other special operations operation where lethal outcome was pursued."
    — Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer [24:00]

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4. Afghan Refugees and Immigration Vetting

• [27:34-29:44]:
  • Discussion over Biden administration settling large numbers of Afghani refugees in the US without adequate vetting.
  • Shaffer argues refugees should have been hosted in other Arab countries for screening, since vetting records are missing:

    "There's absolutely no reason for refugees to come here directly. They should have been sent to a third Arab nation…there was no way to screen them because the records...were lost in Kabul."
    — Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, [27:34]

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5. Biden vs Trump: Health & Media Bias

• [38:27-40:40]:
  • Caroline Levitt eviscerates New York Times coverage of Trump’s schedule and fitness, contrasting it with glowing (and allegedly fraudulent) reporting on Biden’s health:

    “That is unequivocally false. And it's deeply unfortunate that this story was written by the same outlet…they wrote that President Trump is not fit for the job. Are you kidding me?”
    — Caroline Levitt, [38:57]

  • Trump’s MRI results disclosed, all normal. Biden’s doctor declines to answer health-related questions, invoking the Fifth Amendment [40:12-40:44].

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6. Humorous and Satirical Moments

• [32:05] Carson plays a parody Christmas song: “No Place Like Jail for the Seditious Six.”
• Extended riff on his upcoming green velvet suit for the Newsmax Christmas party—Carson’s blend of self-deprecating humor and showmanship [32:56-33:11, 37:38-37:44].

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• On the Tennessee Democratic Candidate:

  "Now, I don't know if you, you know, if you think about this a little bit, if you're a woman and you're in a big city, you know, without the police around, things can get a whole lot rapey and murdery. Thought you should know that."
  — Rob Carson, [02:50]

• On Welfare Abuse:

  "Minnesota, they're not even buying you dinner or using lube."
  — Rob Carson, [09:00]

• On Systematic Fraud:

  "They came up with every kind of way to steal from feeding our future. $250 million to feed supposedly 1.5 billion for faking autism diagnoses."
  — Rob Carson, [16:08]

• On the Sedition Accusations:

  “The whole thing is focused on what I would call a canard of the left trying to distract from the very thing you mentioned. The fact that they did the seditious video… especially since there's four of the folks are Navy. So I guess mutiny is the right term…”
  — Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, [23:49]

• On Afghan Refugees:

  "There's absolutely no reason for refugees to come here directly. They should have been sent to a third Arab nation... there was no way to screen them because the records... were lost in Kabul."
  — Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, [27:34]

• On Media Double-Standards (Trump vs Biden):

  "That is unequivocally false. And it's deeply unfortunate that this story was written by the same outlet…They wrote that President Trump is not fit for the job. Are you kidding me?"
  — Caroline Levitt, [38:57]

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Important Timestamps by Segment

• [02:08] – Rob Carson introduces the Tennessee race and "crazy cat lady" Democrat
• [05:19] – Discussion on ICE and sanctuary city policies
• [08:31] – Steve Hilton anecdote about Afghan immigrant welfare in CA
• [11:25] – Sen. Syverson on Illinois immigrants receiving superior state benefits
• [15:16] – Minnesota Somali community fraud exposé begins
• [23:24] – Lt. Col. Shaffer interview: military orders, narco-terrorism
• [27:34] – Afghan vetting failures, refugee resettlement
• [38:27] – Caroline Levitt on NYT Trump/Biden fitness coverage

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Conclusion & Tone

Spirited, controversial, and laced with sarcasm, Carson’s show rips into Democratic politicians, state policies, and mainstream media narratives. There’s a blend of investigative outrage, pointed humor, and lavish parody—the tone is unapologetically combative, populist, and anti-establishment, with segments alternating between policy critique and comedic relief.

For those seeking pointed right-leaning political commentary with a comedic spin, this episode delivers abundant fodder and memorable one-liners, backed by direct quotations and timestamped moments for easy reference.

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

Oh, hey.

[Co-host or Announcer]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Caroline Levitt]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Caroline Levitt]

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[Co-host or Announcer]

I'm the worst.

[Rob Carson]

I only got my mom a robe.

[Caroline Levitt]

Well, it's better than socks.

[Rob Carson]

So I have to trade in my old phone, right?

[Caroline Levitt]

No AT T Mobile. There's no trade ins needed when you switch. Keep your old phone or give it as a gift.

[Rob Carson]

Incredible.

[Caroline Levitt]

In fact, wrap up my old phone too for my aunt Rosa. Forget that. Aunt Liz will be jealous.

[Rob Carson]

Sounds like my family drama.

[Caroline Levitt]

Oh, I got it. I'll give it to my abuela. I'll take reindeer paper with.

[Rob Carson]

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[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Co-host or Announcer]

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[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Hold it.

[Caroline Levitt]

Now.

[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show hour number duh of the radio program Election Day in tenness. An insane crazy cat lady, Karen is running against a decent Republican down there and a woman who's so bat guano crazy. She hates country music, she hates the police. She thinks men can become pregnant. She's everything that caused Kamala Harris to get destroyed in 2024. But they're spending a buttload of money on her in the state of Tennessee. And I hope to hell that the state of Tennessee is smarter than this. The Democrats got all sorts of tricks up their sleeve and they're. And all of it. Donald Trump called last night to an event with Matt Van Epps, the Republican in Tennessee. She wants to raise your taxes on top of everything else. But she said two things above all else that bothered me. Number one, she hates Christianity. Number two, she hates country music. How the hell can you elect a person like that? Yeah, no kidding. I just want to give my total support. And he's at it, right? She's an immature child. She's like 36 years old. And a couple of years ago as a 34 year old or 40, 32 year old thought that defunding the police was a good idea. Now I don't know if you, you know, if you think about this a little bit, if you're a woman and you're in a big city, you know, without the police around, things can get a whole lot rapey and murdery. Thought you should know that. But she also probably is one of those idiots who says I want to go live over in in and be gendered in in Gaza. I think that'd be a good idea. Oh yeah. Crime is of course also was a.

[Co-host or Announcer]

Major issue in the presidential election.

[Caroline Levitt]

And I know there are some old posts.

[Co-host or Announcer]

You've been asked about those old posts.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

A number of times.

[Caroline Levitt]

My question for you today is whether more money for.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, and by the way, the old post, she's never refuted them. So how about that? Making that part of your question. Cops on the streets in the district you hope to represent would help fight crime.

[Co-host or Announcer]

Would you like more money for more?

[Rob Carson]

You said something that stupid. We can't believe you're running for office and people would vote for you. Do you refute those claims on the.

[Co-host or Announcer]

Streets in your district?

[Caroline Levitt]

So those past comments were at a time when I was a private citizen as an activist and organizer.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that four years ago you were that stupid.

[Caroline Levitt]

And now as a Tennessee Lawmaker, I represent 40,000 individual opinions.

[Rob Carson]

And you shouldn't because you're an idiot.

[Caroline Levitt]

And Political thought.

[Rob Carson]

What do you think now?

[Co-host or Announcer]

Would more money for cops be good or bad?

[Caroline Levitt]

I think it depends on what the community wants.

[Rob Carson]

And see, you didn't answer the question. So you haven't changed your mind? Dear God, what the hell? Honestly. Buffoon. Oh, here she is talking about defunding and, and, and getting rid of ice because some of those you are campaigning.

[Co-host or Announcer]

With, including aoc, have called for to be abolished.

[Rob Carson]

You have sharply been, been sharply critical of the ICE raids in Nashville. But do you think that ICE should be abolished?

[Caroline Levitt]

Like I said, I've got 48 hours to flip this congressional district.

[Rob Carson]

And that's the answer is. Yeah, she still believes in that. And, and she's skirting the issue, honestly. Ridiculous. Did you know that in New York City the radical left is there? They're attacking ICE raids and whatnot, attacking people. And I hope that ICE and I hope that Donald Trump sends in the National Guard and delivers a physical beat down to these people. I really, really do. About sick of their crap. So New York quietly released 7,000 dangerous illegal migrants, including rapists, killers and terrorists and repeat offenders with zero notice to ice. This is how radical the left is in this country. This is how badly they want a civil war. They do. And if they, if they get it, they're going to get their asses kicked real quick, I'm telling you. But they're that stupid. Todd Lyons, the ICE director, said that issued an explosive letter to New York Attorney General Letitia James demanding immediate action after state and local officials quietly released 7,000 criminal illegal aliens, including rapists, killers, gang members and repeat violent offenders. The kind of crap that they did in Iraq as they were getting ready to get rid of Saddam Hussein, just cleared out the prisons. That's the kind of crap that they do to create ch. So since January, New York has released 6947 criminal illegals, 29 homicides, 2500 assaults, 199 burglaries, 305 robberies, 392 dangerous drug offenses, the detainees. 148 charged with homicide, 717 charged with assault, 134 charged with burglary. This is a full scale public safety disaster engineered by far left officials who are deliberately defying federal law. There's going to have to be heads rolling on this crap. There is going to have to be heads rolling with regard to this nonsense because the Democrat Party knows without their illegals they aren't going to get their votes. They are not going to get their votes. You know, I thought it was Kind of interesting. You're wondering why the Democrat Party is desperately trying to keep illegals in this country. And in these states, these Democrat states that are bleeding taxpayers, they're leaving these states like New York, like Illinois, like California. And Steve Hilton, Steve Hilton is running for governor of California. And he had to say this because did you realize in the state of California, these illegal Afghanis who they brought in, they're giving them all this government largesse so they'll vote Democrat. This is what's happening. It is what's happening, by the way. But I want you to think about your salary and I want you to think about what Steve Hilton says right now. Because this is what happens in California for just being imported and voting Democrat.

[Caller or Guest]

A few weeks ago, a business owner here in California told me that one of his new employees asked to be paid in cash, not on payroll.

[Rob Carson]

Really?

[Caller or Guest]

Why the business owner asked? Well, because the employee from Afghanistan was worried that he would lose his welfare payments.

[Rob Carson]

Really?

[Caller or Guest]

How much is that?

[Rob Carson]

How much?

[Caller or Guest]

$7,000 a month.

[Rob Carson]

What?

[Caller or Guest]

That is $84,000 a year here in California.

[Rob Carson]

So when we look at your welfare is $87,000 a year.

[Caller or Guest]

This massive scandal in Minnesota, $1 billion from the Social services system in fraud and corruption. You can be sure it is much, much.

[Rob Carson]

You guys are getting screwed in California. Minnesota, they're not even buying you dinner or using lube.

[Caller or Guest]

Worse, right here in California we already know that over $20 billion in the pandemic from the EDD scandal was sent to in welfare payments to people in jail, on death row, people who are dead. We know that over $24 billion was completely lost on homelessness. Spending all that money spent and we.

[Rob Carson]

Still have situations like because each homeless person is worth $1 million to these NGOs and government agencies, they just keep them barely alive.

[Caller or Guest]

This all over California, everywhere you look. That's why today I am calling for a complete and total audit of every part of California's bloated welfare state.

[Rob Carson]

Now, in the, in the Democrat run states, they're not giving an audit or allowing an audit of the food stamp program because it's rife with corruption. I mean, we're talking about 500,000 people found to have been taking SNAP benefits twice in different states, according to the usda. The USDA has put all programs under review, will ensure only American citizens receive federal food stamps. Gravy train. And it literally is a gravy train in this case. Gravy train is over every. Even though 22 Democrat states have refused to provide the data we are using every tool to compel their compliance. What are they hiding? Who are they hiding? That's Donald Trump speaking there, by the way. Yeah, because they've been, they've been. I told you, I told you. Last year we found out that the Democrat party had been looting our treasury to the tune of trillions of. Trillions of dollars. Trillions of dollars. Here's a report out of. Hold on me. I got it here. I got to grab this real quick. The state of Illinois who's run by a parade balloon. Did you see him? Did you see him in the, in the parade? I don't know if he made it down to New YORK but the J.B. titzler, he, he's presided over a bunch of fraud up there. Did you realize that illegals in Illinois get much better health care and benefits than people who are here legally?

[Caroline Levitt]

Let's talk a little bit more about kind of the coverage that they are receiving. It' Understanding that the federal government provides no matching dollars for this program that it's fully Illinois taxpayer funded. What about the health care that they're receiving? It's my also understanding that it's probably even better than people on Medicaid or citizens on Medicaid who really need coverages. Can you kind of talk about that?

[Rob Carson]

This is Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

This is an important issue as well. And another frustrating thing. The president opens the borders up but then he says but we're not going to pay for any of the health care. This is 100% paid for by state taxpayers. The program of health care that they get is actually better than those of our own residents that are on Medicaid.

[Rob Carson]

That's really weird because you know, I tried to get a health care myself. I'm a healthy man, don't smoke, don't drink and all that. And it was going to cost me $800, $870 a month with a seven thousand dollar deductible.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Our low income struggling families in Illinois on Medicaid they do not get as good a services as these non citizens.

[Rob Carson]

Okay, well I mean that probably ends right there. Right.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Are getting, they're coming into Illinois. So there's costing us significantly more than it costs our own residents. And in addition to the over one billion dollar cost of health care, we're also providing what free daycare for their children were fighting.

[Rob Carson]

Wow, daycare. When William in D.C. my wife, she got a job and, and it was a wash. The price of daycare was, was basically what she was making after taxes. She could have just stayed at home.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Including free housing.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. Free housing too. Holy hell.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Food subsidies.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Cash subsidies. So the total cost of this program is in the billions of dollars. And that means key programs for our developmentally disabled, for our seniors. These people are now being crowded out. Our own citizens programs.

[Rob Carson]

Your Democrat party doesn't give a rats behind about you. You are worthless because they can't depend on you to vote for them. And you're moving out of their states and cities. So this is what they're doing to the rest of you to. To keep people living there and voting Democrats. Do you understand? That's. Let me see. We just colored California there. We colored Illinois there. Oh yeah. We gotta cover the state of Minnesota next. It's a total Charlie Foxtrot under Tim Ootz. We're gonna get to that. Coming up. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Co-host or Announcer]

And then it's getting after going after narco terrorists and designated terrorist organizations in our own hemisphere. As I've said, and I'll say again, we've only just begun striking narco boats and putting narco terrorists at the bottom of the ocean because they've been poisoning the American people.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Announcer]

And Joe Biden tried to approach it with kickoffs. Allowed him to come across the border.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

Cartels take over community.

[Rob Carson]

20 million people. I love it. Unapologetic, not pathetic. That, my friend, is a secretary of war talking about. We are doubling down, man. We are going to continue to send narco drug trafficking boats to the bottom of the ocean with their. With their sailors, whatever you want. To their terrorists on board. There you go. I love it. I absolutely love it. Despite all the rigamarole. It's the rigmarole. Whoever the hell came up with that word? Rigamarole. The rigorma roll. I'll have a corned beef on rigamarole if you would please. A little sauerkraut on that and some thousand island dressing. The rigor. Merle from the the left more concerned about the terrorists than the hundreds of thousands of people who've died from fentanyl poisoning. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Meanwhile in Minnesot, him Woon, who is a moron. And not only that, a corrupt moron. Well, it's even worse than the current reports indicate. It's not just a single billion, but sources in Minnesota tell me it's multiple billions of dollars that have been stolen.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

By Somali migrants, predominantly in Minneapolis.

[Rob Carson]

They were doing things like fake. It's okay to say that Somalia is the meth lab trailer park of the world king autism diagnoses. It's a crap hole. Making autism treatment plans, opening up fraudulent.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Autism autism centers and then bilking hundreds.

[Rob Carson]

Of millions of dollars from taxpayers. This is the biggest systematic fraud scandal. And it's not just a few isolated individuals. I think we're looking at hundreds of Somali families and really widespread. You're really being racist. You know, all of these wonderful people coming from the meth lab trailer court of the. Of the world and doing it all over the world. Somalians are doing this all over the world. Minnesota government workers blame wolves for the massive fraud amid allegations against the Somali community. This the governor also lets Minneapolis burned to the ground during the summer of 2020. And his wife Imelda said she loved the smell of burning tires in the evening. Yeah, that's how these people are. I remember I used to live there. I used to live there before it started to super suck. It was just moderately crazy. Now, I mean, there's no way in hell I would ever live there. More than 400 current staff members say governors systematically retaliated against whistleblowers. Doesn't sound like old Tim Voltz is very Minnesota nice. Sounds like he's Minnesota corrupt. He failed to act on widespread fraud warnings and retaliated against whistleblowers. 480 staff members of the Minnesota DHFS wrote that he is 100% responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota to the tune of billions of dollars. Billions of dollars. And these Somalians. I said Somalians. I know. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm so racist. They came up with every kind of way to steal from feeding our future. $250 million to feed supposedly 1.5 billion for faking autism diagnoses. Now, to get that kind of money, you need a whole lot of families who are willing to say, yeah, I'll say my kids have autism. To get some. To get some money. To get a little something something. Okay, so to say this isn't widespread in the Somali community. You're out of your nut. By the way. You know what else is widespread in the Somali community in Minnesota? Vote harvesting. But that's. How do you suppose Ilhan Omar got into office? Yeah, exactly that. I'm not afraid to say it. I don't even give a damn. Here is. Let me see. Dustin Grage, Grage town hall talking about Tim Woods.

[Co-host or Announcer]

Not a single bureaucrat has been fired throughout this entire process. We're talking about billions stolen. Absolutely zero accountability. If there's going to be any accountability, frankly, the voters of Minnesota are going to have to make that decision.

[Rob Carson]

That's not going to happen because they're stupid up there. Democrats are stupid 20, 26.

[Co-host or Announcer]

But honestly, just looking at that video there, I just have to laugh because this, the only lazy individual in this entire process has been Tim Walls himself. This is the man who had the ability to do stock payments through his own Minnesota Department of Education. He had the ability to subpoena the bank records in our future. He willingly chose not to. Now whether you want to say, like.

[Rob Carson]

Is that generally when you start off with a budget for the $2 million for autistic kids and it grows to a budget of 400 million DOL dollars in a couple years, if you're a governor, you might want to pull your hat out of your butt long enough to see might be something going on there.

[Co-host or Announcer]

Sincere laziness. I'll let the viewer just decide that because you really could debate either. But also Minnesota, it's just frankly not a well run state. We had a $21 billion state surplus at one point he raised taxes by an additional 9 billion. And now to this day, we're staring down the barrel of a $6 billion.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, this is why Donald Trump said he was the R word. I can't say the R word because the R word is offensive. But only the stupid people like Tim Waltz. Minnesota Governor Tim Walt's been accused of turning Minnesota into a crippled failing state for allowing Health and Human Services fraud, new charges against the 78th defendant in feeding our future. Kind of weird that they come here from a country where there's so many people starving and, and then steal from. From charity that feeds children. Oh my God. Didn't we do a concert for this country like in 1985? Wasn't there a big song called we are the World or something? They still haven't gotten their belief together. Yeah, it was Ethiopia. Oh, it's hard. It was USA for Africa, Brian. Sure it was Ethiopia. I mean it was a whole bunch of places. A lot of sub Saharan African countries haven't pulled their heads out of their rear ends. That's racist. No, it's not really. They really haven't. That's why so many people come here and live. Thanks for reminding me, Brian. Oh my God, they're so messed up. Here's Caroline Levitt going after the Somalian population.

[Caroline Levitt]

I'll tell you what does not add to our nation's character and integrity is refugees who come here under the alleged plight of asylum and fleeing persecution and then come to the United States to abuse our system and Rip off American tax page. And as I pointed out, the New York Times, to their credit, it was about six months too late, but they did write about how Somali immigrants in Minnesota have been ripping off American tax.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, the headline was how fraud swamped Minnesota's social services System on Tim Boots watch. And it's about the Somalis pairs.

[Caroline Levitt]

In fact, 86 people have been charged in a rampant and widespread fraud scheme spanning multiple programs in Minnesota. Soda. Of those 86, 78 of those people are Somali. 91% of them charged so far.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that's just one of many, many dozens of scams going on in, in the state of Minnesota. And the reason why they're allowed to happen is because they are a core voting bloc. This is why the DFL in Minnesota, they're all upset. The Democrat Farmers and Laborers Party, the Hammer and Sickle Party of Minnesota, they are leftist communists in Minnesota and they don't care. They don't care. They don't want to make anybody mad. So they just feed the corruption that's happening all over the country. It's not just federal bureaucrat Democrats, it's Democrats states. And if you live there, you're getting screwed. Let's take a break and come back. Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaffer next. Don't go anywhere.

[Caroline Levitt]

Hey, quick question for all the people mad at Donald Trump for calling that reporter a piggy. Would you prefer to call her Hitler?

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah.

[Caroline Levitt]

Racist, rapist, pedo, dictator, fascist. Would you prefer one of those?

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

Come on.

[Co-host or Announcer]

And just put the cartoon back up.

[Rob Carson]

I can't. It's just the cartoon back. I mean, this, this comes foolish from Secretary. The Secretary of Defense at a time.

[Co-host or Announcer]

When subordinates based on reportedly his orders could be facing war crime investigation upset.

[Rob Carson]

About Franco, the narco murdering turtle are.

[Co-host or Announcer]

Facing war crime investigations.

[Rob Carson]

And as Andy McCarthy said, that's the best case scenario. Yeah, you know, I'm a more concerned about troops being told they should disobey orders from the President of the United States without specifying illegal orders, which means disobey orders. That's what it means. They said disobey illegal orders. They can't sign any illegal orders. So they're basically saying disobey orders. Duh. Anybody who has half a brain knows that. This is why Tim Waltz doesn't get it. Joining us on the newsmax hotline is Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer, president of Project Sentinel 2020 campaign adviser for Trump at a security advisor as well, and he joins us right now. How you doing, sir?

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

I'm doing well, Rob. Good to be on with you. Thanks for having me.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I did like this morning, Hexath doubling down on killing narco terrorists, despite all of the rigmarole. And I said this, and I'd like to know your thoughts. They declared the. The narco terrorists. Terrorists. And when you target a boat that is filled with terrorists, your goal for hitting that boat is to kill the terrorists. Your thoughts.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

So the whole thing is focused on what I would call a canard of the left trying to distract from the very thing you mentioned. The fact that they did the seditious video. This seditious called for essentially rebellion and mayhem, mutiny, if you will. Especially since there's four of the folks are Navy. So I guess mutiny is the right term to describe what they're calling for, to distract from that. They're now saying this is war crime. Stop. So there's two reasons why it's not. First, these organizations have been declared narco terrorist organizations, something that should have been done long ago. And secondly, these things were hit with the same process. And we talked about my book before, Operation Dark Art. There's a whole chapter devoted to how we go about doing leave, conducting lethal operations. Rob, there's a process, it's been refined over 30 plus years. This was done like any other special operations operation where lethal outcome was pursued. So it's all a lie. And this idea that he personally ordered. Ordered assassination or, you know, nobody, it's insane. It never happened. It doesn't happen like that. Matter of fact, the admiral in charge of the operation was the guy who basically suggested a second strike. So the whole thing is designed. And if you look at who did this, Nakashina, Bertram, whatever her name is, she's the one at Politico before. Now we're at the Washington Post. Same difference, apparently.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

Who did the 20, the 51 intelligence officers. So it's all Russia collusion hoax 3.0.

[Rob Carson]

Let me ask you this. If you were, say, for instance, in, in Afghanistan and you have the home of, or a meeting area filled with the Taliban, you know, they are meeting in that building and you bomb that building and one of them runs out, what do you do to that person running out?

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

You kill them, as a matter of fact.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

In my book, there were women and children killed incidental to a strike on. On a suspected leader of the Hekmarti group, which is one of the Al Qaeda affiliates. So yes, I mean, no doubt people who are unarmed are killed all the time incidental to lethal. Authorized lethal operations. So again, Rob, this is all a canard. It means absolutely nothing other than another talking point and another point they're trying to use to separate the military from Donald Trump's command.

[Rob Carson]

100%. It's the next thing, Tony. I said that if Mika Brzezinski were alive or alive in 1942, she would have complained that the supply convoy carrying Zyklon B to Dachau was being bombed and those people were just trying to make a living. I swear to God. So ridiculous. It's so bloody ridiculous. And it's also to distract from which in. My God, Tony, you've got Joe Biden bringing in hundred thousand unvetted Afghanis. This has to rip you apart because I know how our brave military members who served there and otherwise felt about the Afghan withdrawal. But to flood our country with all of these people and then when Donald Trump deploys the national guard makes Washington D.C. so safe, you wouldn't even believe it, Tony. I live here and it's like, it's crazy. And then when this jackass who comes across the country, they're acting like he couldn't get a job so he had to drive across country and kill National Guard. Are you out of your friggin mind? And so he kills a National Guard soldier. Another one is recovering, thank God. And the media blames Donald Trump for bringing in the National Guard. What the hell? What the hell?

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

So first off, there's no reason I'm close to the Northern Virginia Afghan community. I've known those folks and I'm very close to them for obvious reasons since I served in Afghanistan. With that said, there's absolutely no reason for refugees to come here directly. They should have been sent to a third Arab nation who their culture is more suited to their traditions. Just saying. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, there's a number of countries which could and should have been the waypoint they were sent to for screening. And oh, by the way, there was no way to screen them because the records they would be screened against were lost in Kabul and Afghanistan. So yes, the whole idea they would be sent here like, you know, like morphine mainstreamed into the blood of America is insane. It's really insane. There's no reason to do it other than what the outcome we see now this was meant. This outcome, Rob, is what the Biden administration wanted. Chaos. That's what they were seeking, what they.

[Rob Carson]

Got, you know, and it should be very obvious. They opened the southern border. They never cared about 350,000 children being trafficked for sex and work, for God's sake. They didn't care about hundreds of thousands of people dying from fentanyl. You never saw a PSA for fentanyl until Donald Trump took office. It's evil, brother. It is freaking evil. I'm going to tell you something. Something, Tony. I always say that the most interesting people that I meet when I go to New York or I fly somewhere, the most interesting people I meet are the people who drive me to and from the airport. And twice I have met Afghanis. Twice I have met a conversation with those guys. Twice I've met Afghani English interpreters who sacrificed everything. Who sacrificed everything. Their families, everything to work with the military and these guys.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

It's just a better way of screening. That's all.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you. That's it. That's that. Because the people who I've spoken to I know are good and decent people. They talked to me about their kids in American schools and the prospect, and they didn't because they couldn't get a job wherever. The man who did that was radicalized from the get go. He was not screened. He was looking for an excuse. No father and husband does that. That is ridiculous. To think that somehow America did this to him. Screw that.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

That's insane.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah. I want to cover a couple of other things on the other side of the break, including Somalia. Love to get your thoughts on Somalia.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

I can't stick this. I got a hit right now, so I gotta get.

[Rob Carson]

That's all right. Well, I wouldn't want to interrupt, you know. Thank you.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

You know our network.

[Rob Carson]

I know, brother. God bless you. We'll talk again soon. I appreciate you for everything you've done. I appreciate it. That's okay. That's okay. He's a busy man. But look what we got out of that, huh? That was pretty darn cool, wasn't it? To hear from an authority on this that that I was right. It wasn't just about me being right. It's about what is right. That's all there is to it. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Go. I think we need a Christmas song, don't you? How about the Seditious Six theme song from Jim Gossett? I think that sounds like a great idea. Here's hoping they get court martial, thrown in jail and all that good stuff. Oh, there's no place like jail for Kelly to stay. Come on, baby. Alyssa Slotkin should be there, too. Dooby doo doo yeah Their sentencing will be a happy day I'll pop some shake they broke the law and they Will get their due. I don't even drink Crazy. I'm watching Jason Crow on CNN. He is looking scared, trying hard to dodge the FBI. Ms. Houlihan looked nervous. She was unprepared. I will be delighted when they're all indicted. Cause there's no place like jail for the sedition. Come on out in a cell where all of them should be Only gonna hear comedy like this here. A court martial. It could come any day. Let's open, lock Mark Kelly up and throw away the key. Come on.

[Co-host or Announcer]

There you go.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, by the way, the newsmax Christmas party is tonight. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go to the newsmax Christmas party. I'm going solo. And I ordered a velvet suit. Ladies, are you listening? Are you listening, ladies? I ordered a velvet suit. I know, I know, I know. It's really cool. It's. It's a very beautiful shade of green for Christmas. And black lapels. Then I got a really. I'm not kidding. Very cool, stylish shirt with a butterfly collar. No tie. I'm not. I'm not kidding. Red velvet bell bottom pants. Yeah, I know. So fantastic. I am going to be. Oh, it's going to be amazing. I'm. I will take pictures. I'm just waiting to see if it'll arrive today. I've been tracking the package. They said it would be here by December the second. So we'll see. That's. I'm going to be styling. The profile. Styling and profiling tonight, people. Maybe defiling. I don't even know. Here is Mark Kelly. He sounded a little bit. A little bit nervous.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

President Trump is trying to silence me.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

Threatening to kill me for saying what is true.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

No.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

And he sent his secretary of defense after me.

[Rob Carson]

And it's not going to work. Yeah.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

Here's how we got here. A week and a half ago, Senator Slotkin and I, along with others who also served in the military and the intelligence communities, we released a video with a simple.

[Rob Carson]

You said that they should defy illegal orders, and then you can't name any illegal orders, which means basically, you want to cause sedition. So nice try. And you can. You can plead it to the court of public opinion all you want, but you're in a buttload of trouble there. Mark. Marky. Mark. He's going to be getting coal in his stocking. Hopefully he gets it in prison. We'll see. I doubt it. But a lot of politicians are going to be getting gold. You are a smart planner, so you deserve silver. That's why Burch Gold is Giving you Silver. For every $5,000 invested in gold, which is up 60% this year, they're going to give you a free ounce of glorious silver which has gone up in value this year. You can give that to the kids. You can put that coin in the, in the stocking for the kids. Whatever you want to do with it. Carry it around your pocket, show it off, whatever, flip it, you know, kind of when you walk into the casino, like you're, like you're, you know, something nobody else does. Just flip it with you up in the air and then catch it, you know, kind of like the joker. You can do whatever you want with it, whatever you want to do. Now, Two Face. Didn't Two Face do that? He'd choose, you know, anyway, you know what? I should do that. I got my silver coin. When I'm wearing my velvet suit tonight, walk in flipping that coin, the ladies will be like, who is that loser anyway? Let Birch Gold help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. For every $5,000 you get an ounce of silver for your stocking, for your kids, whatever. Learn them how to learn that. Learn them how. Teach them to invest their money smartly. How about that? Just text my name, rob to 989-898 to claim your eligibility for this offer. Again, rob to 989-890 8 today, because Birch Gold's free silver with qualifying purchase ends December 22nd. That's coming up real soon. Coming up real soon. What I want to cover up here next. Oh, here's something kind of good news. How about this? I'll get out my, my winning jingle because gas prices are setting record lows.

[Caller or Guest]

We love to win, winning, winning so much.

[Rob Carson]

It's lots of winning.

[Co-host or Announcer]

Lots of winning.

[Rob Carson]

Lots of winning. Lots of winning, Lots of winning, lots of winning. It's oh, so good.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

It is.

[Rob Carson]

Here's a Colorado woman on social media this morning. You wouldn't believe what gas in this location is.

[Caroline Levitt]

The gas is $1.82.

[Rob Carson]

What?

[Caroline Levitt]

And I just paid under $16 for the gas.

[Rob Carson]

The gas was $1.82 and she just paid $16 to fill her car. Here's the guy in Oklahoma. There is no way I'm seeing what I'm seeing right now. Know more. Oklahoma, $99 a gallon. What? Unbelievable. I can't believe my eyes.

[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

Right?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah. There you go. This is why the Democrats are, you know, coming up with the next thing and trying to distract you and all this and saying the economy sucks. They're not going to be able to lie big enough for the greatness that is happening in this country and how great this, this, this Christmas is going to be. I was at Best Buy. I bought a. I bought a stove because my apartment stove sucks so badly. And if I'm gonna live there a couple years, I can't have a crappy stove. So I'm gonna take the crappy stove and I'm gonna move it into my storage unit. I told them, I said, I'll let you keep the stove. And she says, well, you're not supposed to do. That's against the rules. I'm gonna leave the stove. They're like, but that's against the rules. I said, screw it, then I'll put your crappy stove in storage and I'll take the stove with me when I leave. But I'm not working with this crappy stove. Anyway, I was at the Best Buy and the guy said. I said, how was Black Friday? He goes, it was amazing. It was the biggest Black Friday we've seen forever. And Best Buy is saying that this year is going to be amazing in store sales, online sales, and everything. You know why? Because people have money. More people traveled this Thanksgiving than in decades. In decades. You know why? Because the economy is so good and so great and so awesome. There you go. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. I gotta find a way to work this out.

[Caller or Guest]

I love that apartment.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

It's so cozy.

[Caller or Guest]

I'm ensconced in velvet.

[Rob Carson]

You know, if it was socially acceptable, I know you would drape yourself in velvet. Yes. I hope I get my velvet suit by tonight. You know why I'm doing it? Cause I'm frickin single now. You know, I ordered my own artwork. I ordered a Led Zeppelin canvas print for the loft, for God's sake. Oh my God. And in answer to your next question, I am overcompensating for something. I'm not sure what it is, but anyway, Newsmax Christmas party will never be the same. Caroline Levity viscerates the New York Times reporter over the unequivocally false Trump hit piece. And oh, she got medieval. I love me some sweet Caroline.

[Caroline Levitt]

I will point out out one fake news story over the weekend before I let you all go from the New York Times.

[Rob Carson]

When she got done chewing this woman out, she had to floss.

[Caroline Levitt]

That took about one third of the president's daily calendar and his daily schedule and said that he's doing less than he did in his first term. Or he might not be fit for the job. That is unequivocally false. And it's deeply unfortunate that this story was written by the same outlet and the same reporter, New York Times who.

[Rob Carson]

Wrote the this Biden, Katie Rogers is.

[Caroline Levitt]

Doing 100% fine after tripping while boarding Air Force One. Oh, same outlet, same reporter who wrote that President Trump is not fit for the job. Are you kidding me? You all see him almost every single day. He is the most accessible president in history. He is taking meetings around the clock. Another one Biden declared, quote, healthy and vigorous after his first presidential physical.

[Rob Carson]

Hmm.

[Caroline Levitt]

I don't see headlines like that too often about this president.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you know, and then there's the mri. There is a question. Trump MRI results drop as White House confronts mounting questions over presidential. They're questions that are nonsensical, made up of whole cloth by the leftist media. There's nothing wrong with Donald Trump. He's kicking ass. But here is Caroline Levitt, of course, addressing that.

[Caroline Levitt]

As part of President Trump's comprehensive executive physical, advanced imaging was performed because men in his age group benefit from a thorough evaluation of cardiovascular and abdominal health. Of course, the purpose of this imaging is preventative, to identify any issues early, confirm overall health and ensure the President maintains long term vitality and function.

[Rob Carson]

Gotcha.

[Caroline Levitt]

President Trump's cardiovascular imaging was perfectly normal. No evidence of arterial narrowing, impairing blood flow or abnormality.

[Rob Carson]

Meanwhile, President Biden's doctor was asked, Dr. Oconnors, were you ever told to lie.

[Co-host or Announcer]

About the President's health?

[Rob Carson]

On the advice of counsel, I must respectfully decline to answer based upon physician patient privilege and in reliance on my.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

Right under the fifth Amendment of the Constitution. I am not a lawyer.

[Rob Carson]

I must follow my lawyer's advice in this matter.

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

I must respectfully decline to answer based on the physician patient privilege and reliance on my right under the fifth Amendment of the Constitution. On my right under the fifth amendment of the Constitution.

[Rob Carson]

Am I right?

[Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer]

Am I right on the fifth Amendment of the Constitution?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I think you get the point. Last hour of the Rob Carson show is next. If I were you, I wouldn't go anywhere.

[Co-host or Announcer]

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[Illinois State Senator Dave Syverson]

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