The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Dinesh D’Souza EXPOSES Radical Islam’s Ancient Roots in Explosive New Film!
Date: October 17, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guest: Dinesh D’Souza
Main Topic: Radical Islam’s historical roots and D’Souza’s new documentary Dragon’s Prophecy

Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show features a deep-dive interview with political commentator and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza about his latest film, Dragon’s Prophecy. The discussion covers the ancient roots of radical Islam, connections between current conflicts and biblical history, the shifting landscape of media and journalism, and reflections on contemporary political alignments in the US and abroad. Rob Carson maintains his trademark mix of humor and pointed political commentary throughout.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. D’Souza on the Fallout from 2000 Mules and Changes in Media

• Rob Carson opens with praise for D’Souza’s previous film, 2000 Mules, and criticizes the “disinformation and misinformation” campaign used to suppress it ([22:06]).
• D’Souza reflects on media intimidation after the film’s release:

  “The two topics that terrified mainstream Republicans were stealing of the 2020 election and January 6th. … We went through a dark period in which you couldn’t even talk sense about those topics.” ([23:18])

• Both observe that the backlash catalyzed the rise of independent content creators and “citizen journalists,” describing a transformed media ecosystem:

  “I love the fact that there are lots of people who aren’t just doing the punditry, but they’re doing the journalism… a new atmosphere of openness to new ideas.” – Dinesh D’Souza ([24:36])

2. Dragon’s Prophecy: Ancient Roots of Radical Islam

• The film opens on the October 7 attacks in Israel, using never-before-seen, perpetrator-filmed footage compared to a real-life “Saving Private Ryan” ([25:56], [26:29]).
• D’Souza explains the film’s central thesis:
  • It draws explicit parallels between current Israeli-Palestinian conflict and ancient battles between Israelites and Philistines, directly connecting “Philistine” with “Palestine.”
  • D’Souza collaborates with author Jonathan Cahn, whose book inspired the movie, to link October 7 and current events to biblical prophecy ([26:29]).
• The film leverages archaeological evidence to corroborate biblical accounts, showing how recent discoveries validate the historic presence of Jewish figures and settlements in Israel:

  “You have all these figures in the Bible… There was no non-biblical proof that these people existed. … Suddenly these figures are jumping out of the Bible and into the pages of history via the pathway of archaeology.” ([27:33])

3. Politics, Faith, and Biblical Validation

• Carson and D’Souza discuss the synergy of faith, science, and philosophy, agreeing that biblical history is increasingly substantiated by modern research ([28:15], [28:47]).
• D’Souza critiques academic “higher criticism” that dismissed biblical accounts, saying:

  “All of this is being decimated by biblical archaeology… it’s almost as if the world has become more secular, that God is speaking back, but now in the soft language of science and archaeology.” ([28:47])

4. The Red-Green Alliance: The US Left and Radical Islam

• Carson brings up New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani’s refusal to condemn Hamas, calling it “unbelievable, terrifying” ([30:28]).
• D’Souza sees Mamdani as embodying “the red-green alliance”—a precarious coalition between the Western cultural left and radical Islam:

  “Mamdani represents… a very weird alliance… the red referring to communism or socialism, and the green referring to the Islamic side… more dangerous than [AOC or Ilhan Omar].” ([30:54])

• D’Souza attributes this to the left’s identity politics—categorizing groups and assuming alignments without recognizing fundamentally conflicting agendas ([32:30]).

5. Prospects for Middle East Peace and Rejection of Extremism

• Carson and D’Souza evaluate Trump’s peace efforts in the Middle East, debating the significance and sustainability of regional accords, and the debilitating of Iran as central to progress ([33:56]):

  “As long as Iran was pulling strings… this was really not possible. … Hamas is not going to change its spots… the challenges ahead remain immense. But… we can take a moment just to celebrate the achievement of Trump…” – Dinesh D’Souza ([34:49])

• D’Souza calls for realism about the permanence of threats like Hamas, but also expresses hope for resistance across Europe and the West against radical Islam’s influence ([33:56]).

6. Faith, Suffering, and Spiritual Restoration

• Carson links the current era of social and spiritual upheaval to biblical cycles of tribulation and enlightenment:

  “I do believe we’re in a time of enlightenment. … We are, aren’t we?” ([36:26])

• D’Souza echoes this, referencing his own struggles and the sense of spiritual validation from biblical history and the experiences recounted in his film ([36:53]).

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “We went through a dark period in which you couldn’t even talk sense about those topics. … I do take some consolation… I think deterred the bad guys from attempting [fraud] in 24.” – Dinesh D’Souza ([23:18]-[23:47])
• “It begins by putting you right on the scene of October 7th. … There’s footage there… compared the opening 10 minutes of this film to like Saving Private Ryan… this is real.” – Dinesh D’Souza ([26:00])
• “Philistine, Palestine—that’s the same name, that’s the same word.” – Dinesh D’Souza ([26:29])
• “It’s a combination of the self-loathing liberal and… when you fall in love with a person on death row, that’s kind of what the left does.” – Rob Carson ([31:59])
• “The way I understand it is that the left looks at everyone as a kind of identity group… Not realizing that those people are coming with a completely different agenda.” – Dinesh D’Souza ([32:30])
• “[Biblical archaeology] is being decimated… God is speaking kind of in the soft language of science and archaeology.” – Dinesh D’Souza ([28:47])

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [21:28] Dragon’s Prophecy audio trailer, setup for D’Souza interview
• [22:48] Dinesh D’Souza responds to Carson’s praise and discusses 2020 election fallout
• [25:56]-[28:15] D’Souza details the film’s opening, October 7 attacks, biblical context
• [28:47] Discussion of biblical archaeology versus academic skepticism
• [30:28]-[31:59] Analysis of US left, Zoran Mamdani, and the “red-green alliance”
• [33:56]-[35:10] Thoughts on Trump’s Middle East efforts and potential for change in the region
• [36:26]-[36:55] Reflections on faith, suffering, and the significance of the present moment

Conclusion

In this fast-paced and intensely topical episode, Rob Carson and Dinesh D’Souza traverse issues from radical Islam’s ancient roots to 21st-century media battles, weaving in historical, political, and spiritual threads. D’Souza’s Dragon’s Prophecy is presented as both timely and timeless—a cinematic, archaeological, and theological exploration of ongoing Middle East strife. Both host and guest view the present as a crucible for the West, demanding resistance to radical ideologies even while seeking deeper truth and spiritual renewal.

For more on Dragon’s Prophecy, visit thedragonsprophecyfilm.com.