Don’t Catch the Stupid: Rob Carson’s Guide to Surviving Modern Madness

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Podcast Summary: The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Don’t Catch the Stupid: Rob Carson’s Guide to Surviving Modern Madness
Date: January 13, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (with guests and co-hosts including Doug Burns and Jim Gossett)
Podcast: Newsmax Podcasts

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Overview

This episode is a fast-paced, irreverent mix of political commentary, cultural criticism, and parody sketches. Rob Carson, veteran conservative talk radio host and former Limbaugh comedy writer, brings his signature blend of humor and outrage to current political events. Topics focus heavily on hot-button issues such as gender identity, the Supreme Court case on transgender athletes, law enforcement confrontations in Minnesota, the media's role in social hysteria, government hypocrisy, and perceived double standards in American justice and politics. Notable analyst Doug Burns, legal expert and former prosecutor, offers insights throughout.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Gender Identity Debate and Supreme Court Case

• Rob Carson opens with satirical riffs on the inability or refusal of some public figures to define the word “woman,” alluding to Supreme Court hearings and broader cultural debates ([00:51]–[01:23]).
• Co-hosts and Carson deride progressive approaches to gender and criticize current Supreme Court cases regarding transgender athletes in women’s sports ([01:23]–[01:53]).
• Satirical summary: “If you got a pee pee it means you're a boy. If you got a nina it means you're a girl.” — Co-host ([01:54])
• Carson coins the phrase “don’t catch the stupid” to criticize what he calls the abandonment of common sense in gender and Covid debates:

  “If you believe any of this mania, this mania about men becoming women—women becoming men—you have caught the stupid.” — Rob Carson ([03:12])

Notable Parody Segment

• Jim Gossett performs a parody song “I Am Woman (Not a Man),” mocking transgender participation in sports, blending humor with pointed cultural criticism ([05:09]–[06:37]).

2. Comparing Progressive Movements to Radical Islam

• The show draws extreme comparisons, likening certain left-wing cultural practices (such as chest binding in transitioning youth) to practices in radical Islam, particularly focusing on bodily autonomy and social pressures ([06:37]–[08:11]).
• Rob Carson:

  “The left and the Democrat party are insane. There you go. I mean, honestly, just friggin insane. Completely insane. If you're still a Democrat in good standing, what the hell are you thinking? Because utterly, utterly, utterly ridiculous.” ([09:21])

3. Tribute to Scott Adams & Critique of Biden's Cancer Promises

• Brief pause discusses the recent death of Scott Adams, lauding his openness about illness and conversion to Christianity, transitioning into criticism of President Biden’s failed promise to cure cancer ([10:30]–[12:00]).
• Rob Carson:

  “Joe Biden promised America he would cure cancer… used cancer and the possibility of a cure for a decade as a way to raise money… It was all a bunch of crap because he's a liar.” ([11:40])

4. Democrats’ Accountability and the Clintons’ Oversight Refusal

• Carson slams Bill and Hillary Clinton’s refusal to comply with congressional subpoenas and calls for them to face jail time, arguing Democrats show double standards regarding the rule of law ([12:00]–[13:00]).

5. Cultural Commentary: ‘Karens,’ Social Contagion & Mask-Wearers

• Critique and mockery of “Karens” as symbols of liberal hysteria, tracing the idea to trends in mask-wearing post-Covid ([13:17]–[14:00]).
• Discussion with co-hosts about generational shifts in naming online antagonists (“Jessica” as Gen Z’s version of “Karen”) ([14:00]–[15:00]).
• Anecdote about confronting mask-wearers at a restaurant, using public ridicule as a tool ([14:40]).

6. Law Enforcement, ICE Confrontations, and Media Narratives

• Analysis of events in Minnesota, where activist Renee Goode was shot by an ICE officer during a protest ([17:00]–[19:40]).
• Anderson Cooper’s acknowledgment (rare for mainstream media, according to Carson) that the protester's actions caused the incident ([19:27]).

Parody and Satire Continue

• Continued critique of activist movements being coached to disrupt law enforcement, described as “cannon fodder” for left-wing causes ([18:51]–[21:26]).

7. Federal Reserve & Jerome Powell Investigation

• Discussion shifts to cost overruns and potential legal troubles facing Fed Chairman Jerome Powell, with Doug Burns offering legal and political analysis:

  “Since you got there, you made three major blunders that have cost this economy a trillion dollars easily.” — News Analyst ([21:26]) “...it's a Rorschach test. One side's going to say totally legitimate investigation as to whether he lied... the other side's going to look right in the camera and say, no...” — Doug Burns ([25:10])

8. Legal Double Standards: Trump, Bannon, Navarro vs. Clintons

• Burns and Carson extensively discuss the perceived two-tiered justice system, contrasting prosecutions of Trump affiliates with resistance to holding the Clintons accountable ([26:08]–[27:55]).
• Critical take on efforts to remove Trump from the ballot, with a constitutional law reference:

  “The most first-year law student in constitutional law knows that the 14th amendment said that it has to be done by Congress, not by a state and The Supreme Court ruled 9-0.” — Doug Burns ([27:57])

9. Transgender Athletes and Sports Fairness

• Burns and Carson stress that no transgender men compete in the NFL or MLB, arguing the issue is one-sided and based on biological advantages ([28:52]–[29:57]).
• Statistical example: Men’s and women’s shot put compared to highlight physical differences ([29:57]).

10. ICE Shooting Case: Legal Defense of Officer

• Legal analysis of whether the ICE officer will face indictment for the shooting of activist Renee Goode in Minnesota:

  “...if an individual is in reasonable fear for their life or serious bodily harm ... you can respond with the force presented to you with commensurate force.” — Doug Burns ([33:26]) “It's almost impossible to indict this case when the woman was gunning her car right at him.” — Doug Burns ([35:11])

• Ongoing narrative that leftist movements seek out “trigger events” to incite outrage and unrest, regardless of factual basis ([35:21]–[36:37]).

11. Minnesota Fraud and Political Corruption

• Carson and Burns discuss ongoing investigations into fraud and protests in Minnesota, lamenting the lack of consequences for public officials:

  “We shouldn't have two tiers or standards of justice. Well, guess what, welcome to the party. There are two different standards.” — Doug Burns ([37:58])

12. Oligarchy and Political Elites

• Closing rants call out the economic and political power amassed by Clinton, Sanders, Warren, etc., as evidence America has become an oligarchy, with citizens left “to feast on the crumbs.” ([39:01]–[40:50])
• Rob Carson:

  “We live in an oligarchy. I want some SOBs to go to jail. I want him to go to jail.” ([39:20])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Gender Debates:
  “If you believe that wearing a paper mask to prevent the supposedly deadliest virus ... then you've caught the stupid... If you believe any of this mania about men becoming women, women becoming men, you have caught the stupid.” — Rob Carson ([03:12])

• On Transgender Athletes:
  “You never see the, the born girl become boys...there are no transgendered men in the NFL, NHL, MLB.” — Co-host ([28:52])

• On Law Enforcement and Activism:
  “This is an armed insurrection. This is certainly a violent insurrection. It's being bought and paid for by NGOs by the left...” — Co-host ([32:27])

• On Double Standards:
  “You say, oh, yeah, we shouldn’t have two tiers or standards of justice. Well, guess what, welcome to the party. There are two different standards.” — Doug Burns ([37:58])

• On Oligarchy:
  “We live in an oligarchy. I said this for a very long time ... We have to feast on the crumbs. So bloody tired of this nonsense.” — Rob Carson ([39:20])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:51]–[03:12]: Gender debate satire, “What is a woman?” segment
• [05:09]–[06:37]: Jim Gossett’s parody on transgender sports
• [09:21]: Carson calls left “utterly, utterly, utterly ridiculous”
• [11:40]–[12:00]: Carson critiques Biden’s cancer pledge
• [14:00]–[15:00]: “Karens” and generational antagonists
• [17:00]–[19:40]: Minnesota ICE confrontation, Cooper audio
• [21:26]–[25:25]: Federal Reserve/ Jerome Powell legal analysis
• [26:08]–[28:49]: Double standards and Trump legal cases
• [33:11]–[35:21]: Legal implications of Minnesota shooting
• [37:43]–[37:58]: Minnesota fraud investigation and lack of consequences
• [39:01]–[40:50]: Oligarchy rant and closing statements

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains a sarcastic, brash, and combative tone, aiming for both entertainment and sharp-edged political critique. Carson blends direct commentary, parody, outrage, and humor, often steering conversation toward perceived absurdities in leftist politics and government hypocrisy. Guests play both informative and comic roles, and musical parody adds to the show’s signature style.

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This summary captures the progressive flow of major topics, featured quotes, and the combative humor that defines The Rob Carson Show, making it accessible for those who missed the live broadcast.

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Doug Burns]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Hold it. Now.

[Doug Burns]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show.

[Jim Gossett]

In America on air and on the World Wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

You provide a definition for the word woman. Can I provide a definition?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

No. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

I can't. You can't? Not in this context. I'm not a biologist.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I'm glad I wasn't that ignorant before I got married.

[Rob Carson]

The meaning of the word woman is so unclear.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Imagine my honeymoon night. I'd be like, I can't tell if you're a girl or not.

[Rob Carson]

Controversial that you can't give me a definition. Senator, in my work, this is a Supreme Court Justice.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Now, by the way, as a judge.

[Rob Carson]

What I do is I address disputes. If there's a dispute about a definition, people make arguments and I look at the law and I decide. So I'm not. The fact that you can't give me a straight answer about something as fundamental as what a woman is underscores the dangers of the kind of progressive education that we are hearing about.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. There's a case in front of the Supreme Court today that is about men who can't compete with men in sports becoming women to compete and beat the snot out of them. Yeah. And they have no regard for the women who are in the sports. It doesn't not matter at all. They've completely abandoned common sense and reason altogether. By the way, I believe the case is PPV9 is what it is. It's PPV9. That's what I'm going to call it because that's how I explained it to my kids when they were toddlers. I said, if you got a pee pee it means you're a boy. If you got a nina it means you're a girl. But this is how separated common sense that the Democrat Party is. If you are, if you are, you know, believe absurdity, you'll commit atrocity. And this has been going on for how long? How long is this idiocy been going on that we have devolved so much as a culture that the Supreme Court has to decide what a man and a woman is? And we've got a Supreme Court justice who made it onto the Supreme Court who could not answer what a woman is, which is an adult female. My God in heaven. I mean, honestly, if you believe this, then if you go to a dog shelter, you should not care whether the dog is male or female. You could just identify either dog as either sex. If you want a female dog, the dog can have testicles and a penis. And if you want a male dog, the dog can have a vagina. That's how stupid this is. We have. This is why I came up with the expression don't catch the stupid, you know, because when. When the virus was unleashed on America intentionally by working with the United States. You can't say that. Yeah, I can. And they released it. I said, if you believe that wearing a paper mask to prevent the supposedly deadliest virus that has ever attacked America, then you believe that wearing a cowboy hat would protect you and help you breathe. If you go scuba diving, if you believe that you stand 6ft from someone versus 4ft from someone, you will not get Covid. I mean, honestly, you've caught the stupid. And if you believe any of this mania, this mania about men becoming women. Women bec men, you have caught the stupid. I mean, for years, my. My kids and their friends have said that I am somehow transphobic because I don't believe that children should be sexually mutilated and spend their lives as eunuchs pretending to be the opposite sex. And literally five years ago, when I said that, I mean, people just go bananas on me. But it's always been true. It's always been true. My daughter, when she was applying at art and she was looking for a roommate, and I said, here's what's going to happen. I'm going to help you pay for your apartment. But if you choose a roommate who on their social media status says non binary, I'm not going to. And she said, well, why is this? And I said, because non binary didn't exist five years ago. It is nonsense, and it proves that the person who wants to be your roommate is insane. That's all. That's it. Much more. Coming up. This is Jim Gossett, something we've been playing for years on the Rob Carson Show.

[Jim Gossett]

I am woman, not a man. Despite this new transgender band, though My voice is deep and I've got facial hair.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Sounds like a girl, right?

[Jim Gossett]

They ban me, but I'll be back. Bravery I do not lack. You don't have to tell me to.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Grow a pale cause you already got em.

[Jim Gossett]

Oh yes, I'm a girl. Against women. I compete. People want to hurl. When I win another meet swimming medals, I will steal all of them.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Steal all of them.

[Jim Gossett]

A beard.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Beard.

[Jim Gossett]

I've got testicles.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Got testicles.

[Jim Gossett]

I am woman.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, women have testicles. Everybody knows that.

[Jim Gossett]

Pena says that I can't swim. They claim that I am a him, yes. But I'll be back. Just you wait and see.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Oh my lord.

[Jim Gossett]

Oh yes, I'm a she. I even wear a dress though it's no mystery. The whole package I possess. But they banned me. Ban me from everything.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

From everything.

[Jim Gossett]

I have a br. I have a prostate plan. Prostate plan.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah. You know, it's interesting because some of the same extreme dynamics that happen with the left also happen in radical Islam. It's very real. You know, they call it the green red revolution because they're so very similar. For instance, in, in some sub Saharan and even I should say north of Saharan, Middle Eastern countries, they, they do a thing called female circumcision where they destroy the genitalia, the exterior genitalia of the woman. So they become non sexual beings unable to experience pleasure whatsoever. And they do chest binders. And the left, when girls decide they're going to become boys, wears chest binders and then get surgery on their genitalia. And they, they fashion a phallus from the skin on their arm or leg and dangle it between their legs like an ear waiting for transplant. And then of course, they also, in radical Islam, they, the imams preach that the, the, the underlings should sacrifice themselves for the cause. But the imams would never consider doing such a things. The, the imams would never put a suicide vest on and run into a synagogue and blow themselves up. But the same thing's happening in Minnesota when they say you should be willing to go get shot in the face by ice. Do you understand? You understand what's happening here? The insanity that is happening here? And as I watched the news, I was watching the news last night, I was watching all these idiots in Minnesota attack ICE agents, everything. And I was hoping that Donald Trump would send, you know, our military in there with some of those weapons they used when they went after Nicolas Maduro. They have this, apparently this, this sonic boom weapon that just completely makes your head feel like it's going to explode. And I just want them to go in just with a few Marines and fire that at some of these idiots to smack a little sense into their heads. Because honestly, it is just ridiculous. It's a temper tantrum of insanity by children who believe that ICE agents for going after illegals in the country are somehow Nazis and that girls can become boys. Honestly, the left and the Democrat party are insane. There you go. I mean, honestly, just friggin insane. Completely insane. If you're still a Democrat in good standing, what the hell are you thinking? Because utterly, utterly, utterly ridiculous. A couple of things. Just a sad note. Scott Adams passed away. Let me throw that out there because I got to tell you, we're all going to face this eventually. And we're not used to generally people sharing their expiration so openly until the very last day. I mean, he was on talking on social media about, you know, everything. Had Greg Gutfeld on earlier this week and he was still laughing and everything. And I give the man an extreme amount of credit for doing what he did. And he suffered a lot of slings and arrows because of his political ideology and he converted to Christianity before he passed away. And I just think he seems like a hell of a good guy and I'm sorry for his loss. I thought he was a very interesting character. And again, we're all going to get there eventually. I just kind of am disappointed that Joe Biden promised that he would cure cancer when he was the president and clearly it did not work. It is, you know, and that's not a joke, by the way. That is not meant to be a joke in any way, shape or form. Joe Biden promised America that he would cure cancer when he was elected. He promised that he would do it. He used cancer and the possibility of a cure for cancer for a decade as a way to raise money. He had a charity that did nothing but pay its, its principles, lots and lots of money. The, and, and the cancer moonshot. It was all a bunch of crap because he's a liar. He's a filthy, stinking L. And I will tell you also, we all have people in our lives who have passed from cancer. And I am hoping and praying that someday we will find a cure. I have a feeling when we lean into this quantum computing that is coming, when it does eventually launch. There are some scary things associated with quantum computing, including infinite knowledge, which is God, essentially, kind of frightening. But at the same time, there's also the possibility that it could cure cancer in minutes. So let's hope that that actually happens. And I hope we see it in our lifetime. I'd love to see it in the next few years, because I'm just sick and damn tired of cancer taking away the lives of so many people who I love and you love and we love altogether. Bill and Hillary have refused to testify in front of the House Oversight Committee, daring Chairman Comer to hold them in contempt of Congress. Jimmy, Jimmy, it's time to put your money where your mouth is and hold them in contempt of Congress. I would love to. And you know, Democrats are always saying that no one's above the law. No one's above the law. And even Hillary has said nobody is above the law. And so I think we should do a Steve Bannon or a Peter Navarro and put him in jail for a few months for contempt of Congress. I mean, I'm absolutely serious. By the way, they were more than willing and wanting and praying to put Donald Trump in prison for life, like they're doing here. Bolsonaro in Brazil. They did the same thing to him as they wanted to do to Trump. But Trump, of course, won. So the Democrats had no compunction about taking Donald Trump's fortune, taking his freedom, and taking his life. So I would love to see Hillary Clinton in an orange jumpsuit in prison for a few months, and I would love to see the reaction from the left because we've been waiting a whole hell of a long time to give him a little. What fur. There you go. All right, so we've got a lot of stuff on the show today. I want to talk about the what I told you when. When Kamala Harris announced she was going to be the president, that she was going to run for president, that her constituency is crazy cat ladies and the emasculated men who love them. That's exactly what is happening in Minnesota. It is becoming very clear that the Democrat Party and the Marxists and Communists are using insane liberal women subject to social contagion. And that's really the root cause of all of this nonsense. We're going to get to all of that as the show progresses. The number is 800-922-6680. And this is the Rob Carson Show.

[Doug Burns]

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[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

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[Rob Carson]

Media flooded with leftist white women. I wish ego death upon every one of you. This is a Karen Intifada. It's Civil War time. Maybe it'll help if you yell at us. It is time to fight. Maybe you got to up your Diazepam.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Are we great yet? Are we great yet? Are we a great country? Is this what is great? Are we great? Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

These hysterics are amusing. I'm not afraid of you.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Also, Emmy wanted to tell you to off.

[Rob Carson]

I'm sorry. I'm just gonna put it on the line. All of whom are unattractive, most of whom are overweight.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, sure.

[Rob Carson]

The vast majority of whom clearly have no jobs.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, that is Megyn Kelly talking about the insane liberal Karen. And I want to say something real quick. Gen Z apparently is looking for their own version of Karen. They're using the word Jessica. I don't particularly care to just go after a woman's name because there's no male equivalent. Is there a male equivalent of Karen? What is, what is a male equivalent of a Karen? Is he the kind of feminized leftist who shoots his mouth off and, you know, makes all sorts of threats? What's his name? What is his name? What do we call him? So I'm not gonna go after Jessica. Although I have a feeling they came up with the word Jessica because of Jessica Tardlove on, on the 5, on Fox. But, but, but, and I do apologize for a women named Karen. It just kind of took hold. The whole thing just kind of took hold. We knew what Karen was all about. Karen is a insane cul de sac dwelling frequently woman who, who is unhinged, who is susceptible to social contagion. They're fine with, you know, books in, in kindergarten about, about, you know, boys becoming girls. And they're down with the whole transgender nonsense. They fall for every social contagion possible. They're the ones who tell you, why aren't you wearing your mask? And by the way, they still wear them here. They still wear surgical masks when they're out and about here where I live in Northern Virginia, across from Washington D.C. they still do. I was at this wonderful, wonderful restaurant on Sunday morning, had a little brunch action and there were two of these purple haired, non binary morons standing right next to us as we were waiting for a table. And I made sure to be heard when I started a conversation with my party and I said, holy crap, guys, is there another strain of COVID that I didn't know about? I certainly wouldn't want to catch that new strain of COVID and get sick because, you know, maybe I should be wearing a mask. And they, they kindly asked the woman at the front desk. They said, I think we'll wait outside. And I said, well, good, because I wouldn't want to catch any Covid or anything. And they walked out. I'm so. I'm done. I'm done with this nonsense. I'm done with the nonsense. I'm done with the bull crap. I want to punch people back in the face. I want to take Caren screaming at me and just plant my palm on her forehead and just give her a shove and knock her right on her ass. That's what needs to happen to these Karens in Minnesota who are screaming at ICE and saying, shoot me in the face. They are the Chihuahuas on the other side of the fence of the pit bull. And it's about time we took down the fence. It's about time we took down the fence. Here is Anderson Cooper last night. You know, there's been a lot of talk about this. This insane liberal Karen who used to be kind of a normal woman, I guess she'd been married to two men and had two children. She lost custody of those two children because she's freaking insane and she has a son. And of course she was so irresponsible and stupid to get involved in this anti ass ice. Well, she's probably anti ass too. Anti ICE movement. And she moved her kid, uprooted him, took him to Canada because Donald Trump got elected. Then she and her wife came back here and she didn't have a job and she spent the day after dropping the kid off at the imam at the madrasa for leftists. And she would go out and she'd interrupt police officers, officers and ICE agents. And apparently Renee Goode was part of a DRS Primer manual that teaches its members and supporters how to physically interfere with law enforcement arrests. So you know what? She's cannon fodder. I told you this. There's this group Minnesota ICE Watch. The group operates under a banner of autonomous collective. Collective? Yeah, collective. The warmth of collectivism. Documenting and resisting against ICE police and all colonial militarized regimes. The same bullcrap they're teaching your kids in colle. She attended regular meetings, received thorough training from ICE Watch. Outlines four tactics for interfering with an arrest officer, such as the best kind of grip to use while yanking someone in custody out of their hands or even suggestions on pushing and pulling an officer. There you go. Pressuring cops to simply release individuals they've taken the custody by totally surrounding the officers. The manual claims that being arrested can give drastic negative life altering effects, especially for targeted population populations like people who aren't white Muslims, lgbtq, rst, U V W, XYZ and certain radicals. So there you go. She was trained to do this Stupidity. And she ultimately served as cannon fodder. And everybody knows that it was her fault, even Anderson Cooper.

[News Analyst or Legal Expert]

Your own analysis of two of the videos, starting with one that's filmed from further away but seems to show contact between the caller and the officer, according to your analysis, because there were questions last night of were the shots fired before, were any shots fired before the officer made contact or once the officer had made contact with the vehicle? You've enhanced a version of the video which you slowed down. From your experience, what does that show?

[Doug Burns]

Well, the slowdown version is showing me that when this, the SUV pulls forward, they make contact with the, the agent. And then immediately following that contact, you hear three gunshots.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, there you go. So that's Anderson Cooper ever to admit that it was her fault. And she's cannon fodder. And that's what they treat her as, you see, because they use these trigger events. They tried it with, they did it with George Floyd. He died of a drug overdose. They tried it with Mike Brown. They did it with the, the Covington kids. They did it with Kenosha. The whole they're always wrong. They will never admit they're wrong. But even if they're wrong, they use it to inflame their base and cause violence because their base are ignorant, insane, crazy cat ladies and their emasculated husbands. Hey, guys, It's Carson for Quince.com Colder days mean layers, and your winter wardrobe may have you considering a winter reset. I went to a jazz club the other night wearing a quince tee, another shirt over it, and a Quince wool jacket. A woman said, you look fine. I mean, it blew me away. I have spent every dime for my kids and my wife for 25 years. Now I feel confident and I look good with Quince. I couldn't believe it. Quince has everything you need. Men's Mongolian cashmere sweaters, wool coats, leather and suede outerwear. Each piece made with premium materials by trusted factories that meet rigorous standards. No middlemen means no traditional markups. The wool coat I wore to the jazz club the other night turned heads cost less than I paid elsewhere. You can also find anything for your home, including kitchen, bath, and even for travel. Refresh your wardrobe at Quince. Go to quince.com newsmax that's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com Newsmax for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com Newsmax that's quince.com Newsmax.

[News Analyst or Legal Expert]

First of all, the Fed is politicized. Chairman Powell is the worst Fed chair since Arthur Burns, and he is the poster child for politicizing the Fed. The only reason why he's still there is because he papered over the fiscal irresponsibility of Joe Biden and got America into an inflation crisis that President Trump is in the process of curing. So spare me on that. I mean, look, they got it looks like there's, like, luxury elevators and dining rooms. He claims that the thing was never renovated before, when in fact it was. Powell gets up there and says it's politicized and it's the tariff. That's the problem, why the costs went up. Come on, Jay. Come on, Jay, do your job. Since you got there, you made three major blunders that have cost this economy a trillion dollars easily. We know he made false statements. The only question is whether he was aware and did it with malice. And think about that. If he was ignorant about it, that tells you how ignorant he is when he runs Fed policy.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, of course he put out. Jerome Powell, put out a video, a desperation video on Sunday saying he was being persecuted, etceter, which I don't personally think is a very good sign. It shows that you're trying to hide something. But, hey, let's ask Doug Burns that, shall we? DOUG burns, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR Man, I just love to have a day we don't have anything to talk about.

[Doug Burns]

Yeah, you're right. I mean, it's unbelievable. Never a dull moment, as they say.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I swear to God. So the Trump administration is saying that they started looking at Jerome Powell, these cost overruns on the Fed building, and I mean, of all the people you want to take on a tour of your federal building being rebuilt and all of that, one of the biggest developers in world history is not one. And clearly, Donald Trump saw billions of dollars in cost overruns and said, what the hell? Jerome Powell freaked out, said he was being indicted. And this morning, Judge Jeanine Pirro, who I would love to have be my girlfriend, said the word indictment has come out of Mr. Powell's mouth. No one else's. None of this would have happened if he would have responded to our outrage, our outreach. The office makes decisions based on the merits, nothing more, nothing less. What are your thoughts on Jerome Powell, why they're going after him, and why he put out that video on Sunday?

[Doug Burns]

Well, it is true that when you're given an opportunity, you know, to come in, sit down, explain, you know, and then you just don't do that, that you may pay. Pay a price on that. I mean, look, the way I look at it is, first of all, I break it down into, you know, the political side of the discussion and the legal side. The legal side is very easy, which is, you know, at this early stage, I don't know exactly what they're investigating, but I'm pretty good at guessing after 40 years. And I'm guessing that it has to do with false testimony about the renovation to the building. And again, that goes right into the political side, which is the hypocrisy, which is they had zero hesitation about foaming at the mouth on liberal cable about how serious it is, and it undermines everything. And the world's going to stop spinning when people lie under oath. But now, all of a sudden, it's like, oh, no big deal. It could also be on the merits of the. The overruns. But at the same time, and I'm not being sarcastic, it's not a crime to, you know, completely mismanage, you know, a project. You made a great point, which is him standing next to Trump. And we all remember that famous exchange, I couldn't believe it, where he says, that's not true. And then Trump pulls out a sheet of paper, his coat pocket, and he goes, yes, it is. I have it right here on paper. And that was. That was just embarrassing. So the point is, you know, again, it's a Rorschach test. One side's going to say, totally legitimate investigation as to whether he lied. Totally legitimate investigation as to these insane cost overruns. And then the other side is going to look right in the camera and say, no, as we all know, he can only fire him for cause. Right. You hear the legal experts explain that.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yes.

[Doug Burns]

Isn't this a cute maneuver? Going to say he's under investigation. I'm laughing. And then fire him for cause, Rob?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Well, here's the problem. He's going to be out in May.

[Doug Burns]

Yeah, that's true. But he's still a governor, apparently. And I'm not the big expert on this, but I believe he remains on the board of governors till 2028. Not sure, you know, how that tracks versus being, you know, the head. But the fact of the matter is, is that, you know, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see Trump calling him too late power. He's incompetent, you know, and it's just escalated to this point. I really don't know. And I don't want to jump over skis in any direction how viable this criminal investigation is. You got to give it time.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

All right, so Bill and Hillary have Refused to testify in front of the House Oversight Committee, daring Chairman Comer to hold them in contempt of Congress. Hillary Clinton herself has said that no one is above the law. No one is above the law. The Democrat Party, no one is above the law. They have no compunction about putting Steve Bannon in jail for the same thing, putting Peter Navarro in jail for the same thing. What do you think needs to happen? I would love to see what Hillary looks like in an orange jumpsuit.

[Doug Burns]

Well, he laid it out exactly right. I mean, you know, Navarro, Bannon, again, you know, the foaming at the mouth, the pompous lecturing of us. How can you possibly have a society where people are just going to disregard subpoenas? And these people are so deranged. It's unbelievable that when it's done by their heroes, the Clintons, then it's perfectly fine. I mean, it's just remarkable. But the point is, is Colmer's going to press it, the contempt issue, and we'll see what happens. And there's a new sheriff in town in the Department of Justice. Obviously, you know, they're the ones through the United States Attorney's office, Jeanine Pirro, et cetera, et cetera, who decides whether to actually bring a contempt prosecution. You know, that's getting way ahead of ourselves for the moment. But again, they better be careful because, you know, look, you can't work both sides of the room. They graduated Yale Law School. Obviously they know that if you're given a subpoena, you have to show up.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Well, they had no worry whatsoever. No Democrat had any thought about putting Donald Trump in jail for 700 years. Doug, they would have done that, 700 years in prison. They would have taken his fortune. They tried to take him off the ballot. Ultimately, they're unhinged rhetoric, caused two people, two insane people. The kind of the same people who are going after ICE agents in Minnesota to try to assassinate Donald Trump. Trump. It's about time we took the damn gloves off.

[Doug Burns]

Well, I want to go back to the taking them off the ballot because that was the most ridiculous exercise I ever saw. And I don't often use names, but I'm going to use one now. Lawrence Streib, constitutional law professor from Harvard Law School, and he looks right in the camera and says that Trump can be taken off the ballot by the state of Colorado, if I remember that correctly. When the most first year law student in constitutional law knows that the 14th amendment said that it has to be done by Congress, not by a state and The Supreme Court ruled 9 0. That tells you a lot, by the way, in the climate that we're in. So again, when you have people who are going to just delusionally sell out legal analysis, it just becomes a breathtaking situation. But I'll tell you what, you know, this hypocrisy is unbelievable. You and I discussed, you know, the stuff with Epstein photos when it's a Democrat means nothing. When it's a Republican, they're a pervert and a pedophile. And it just goes on and on.

[Rob Carson]

And on and on.

[Doug Burns]

And I think, honestly, I think people are getting tired of it.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Oh, I think we are too. I think we're tired of the nonsense. Today in front of the Supreme Court, they are discussing whether boys can become girls and compete with girls in sports and beat them. Oddly enough, it never happens the other way. You never see the, the born girl become boys. And if I'm not mistaken, there are no transgendered men in the NFL, NHL, mlb.

[Doug Burns]

Well, you, you completely read my mind because in preparing to speak to you, it popped into my head like a light bulb went off. I said, wait a minute, let me take a look quickly and see if it were in reverse and somebody transitions to a woman. You know, are they knocking down the doors trying to compete in men's sports? Of course.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Doug Burns]

And by the way, that cements the point, which is that there's a fundamental difference. To me real quick, Rob, it's a factual case, not a legal case, of course. And the issue could not be simpler. And that is if somebod transitions okay to a woman but retains biological advantages, which gives them an unfair advantage against females, then they should not be allowed to do it. This is not rocket science.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And I use the example because I was a shot putter, by the way, in the U.S. olympics. Okay. The men and women, the record shot put toss is about the same distance about, I think it's 85ft. The only problem is the woman shot put is 8 pounds and the ends is 16. So, so there is that. I, I want to talk on the other side of the break, what's going on in Minneapolis, among other things. Also, by the way, Donald Trump and Christine have ended temporary protected status for Somalis in the United States. And the thousands must leave by March 17th. I love it when they take the gloves off. More with Doug Burns coming up. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey, guys, it's Carson for Relief Factor. You know, I saw an ad for Relief Factor a while back and I saw a guy literally in tears with how he Talked about the pain that he was experienced was gone. It happened to me too. I started taking a few months ago. My hip was really bothering me and I wondered because I'm the age of, you know, replacement of joints and whatnot, if it could be better. And I started taking Relief Factor and it healed. It's a 100% drug free research based formula created to help your body's natural inflammatory response. The same one that caused everyday aches and pains from aging, exercise, overexertion, and just normal living. It helped me with my hip, my neck, my shoulders, all the places that remind you you're not 25 anymore. Relief Factor supports a healthy response to inflammation, helping you stay active and keep those joints and muscles feeling good. It's made with four key ingredients. Omega 3 fatty acids, resveratrol, curcumin and Ikarian. Each one helping from a different angle. You can start with a three week quick start for just $19.95. That's less than a cup of coffee a day. So if you're tired of creaking like an old floorboard every time you move, give Relief Factor a try. Go to relieffactor.com that's relieffactor.com and feel the difference. Relief Factor. Because getting out of bed shouldn't count as a workout out.

[Doug Burns]

Without due process as a citizen. Isn't that what the second amendment was written for?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

We have to show up with guns. We have to.

[Doug Burns]

There's no other way around it.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

There's no waiting to the ballot box. We need to get to the bullet box, show up with guns to face you guys.

[Doug Burns]

This time.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

We're an armed resistance against the United States of America. Yeah, we know now that the, the woman who attempted to run over the ICE officer and was shot through the windshield, which is a good sign that the cop was in front of your car as you started to drive away. She'd actually been through training. This is an armed insurrection. This is. This is certainly a violent insurrection. It's being bought and paid for by NGOs by the left by Neville Singham and others. And it is not protected speech. Doug Burns. Doug Burns Law on Twitter, on the Newsmax hotline. Your thoughts on this, Renee? Good. Will the police officer be indicted? And is this speech protected? And what do we do about it?

[Doug Burns]

Well, first of all, everybody jumped all over the skis incorrectly. It was just breathtaking. The worst possible examples was mayor of New York City, Mamdani calling it a murder, Elon, Omar jumping right in. Ridiculous.

[News Analyst or Legal Expert]

Legally.

[Doug Burns]

So everybody's clear. If an Individual is in reasonable fear for their life or serious bodily harm. It's interesting that it's not just your life. That's an important legal point. Then you can respond with the force presented to you with commensurate force. You can debate the case. But what happened was there was a misimpression left. It was interesting and I was in a case and I'm going to explain it very quickly. People find it interesting. I was in a self defense case where, where somebody came home, found a friend literally in bed with his wife. Then a gun materialized. The guy who had been in bed with the wife was backing the car and the defendant shot at it. But the shots were in the side of the vehicle, which really made the defense very, very hard. Here I saw a photo of a shot and I was so glad to hear you say it. Right through the windshield. That's critically important because it obviously demonstrates that the car was coming right at the officer when he shot. All of the problems eventuated by a combination of a weak video and a Rorschach test factor. The weak video was, it wasn't clear until the last split second that there was a second officer in front of the car. And everybody, Rorschach test only wanted to see the officer off of the driver's window. Okay, and the point is? No, she accelerated the car right at the officer.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Is he going to be indicted?

[Doug Burns]

So, yeah, I wasn't avoiding your question. I do not, I do not believe he will be indicted for two reasons. Legal and then factual. Legally, you have questions of immunity. Federal officer in the exercise of their duties is immune from state prosecution. Supremacy clause, federal law is supreme. But then factually, and this is better news for the defense, it's almost impossible to indict this case when the woman was gunning her car right at him.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, and this is a twofold thing. They're looking for a trigger. The left looks for triggers. They had George Floyd, they had Trayvon Martin. They had, you know, they've gone again and again and again and again. They look for a trigger to start saving. Doesn't matter if it's factual anymore, Doug. It doesn't matter if it's factual. They are still diverting, they are still pivoting. Even though that she actually ran out. The police. It doesn't matter. ICE is evil. ICE or murder is all that.

[Doug Burns]

Here's a very good tip for your vast audience. You know, when you watch these people try to tap dance around these type of issues, say to yourself over and over again, are they talking about the facts or are they diverting and talking about something else? And time and time and time again, you'll see them diverting and deflecting and trying to talk about something else, which is a key test. I mean, lawyers always have that phrase, if you have the facts, talk about the facts. If you have the law, talk about the law. You know, that type of thing. But here, time and time again, I mean, I have a cousin who graduated Harvard Law School, jumped in foolishly and said, Shaw looked to me, posted this on Facebook. Shaw looked to me as though the woman was simply driving away. He hadn't seen the video where the police officer, the agent, was standing right in front of the car.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I know, but it still doesn't matter. The left. Trust me on this. I have somebody in my life, which is.

[Doug Burns]

They simply don't care.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I have somebody in my life. I'm telling. And I'm like, finally. I said I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I can't have a conversation with you. Shut up. Talk about something else. How about vanilla ice cream? Dear God, Are you kidding me? A couple of things going on here. They're trying to cover up. They're trying to stop all of the deportation of all the illegals who came here illegally and they're also trying to cover up massive fraud in the state of Minnesota. Scott Besson is going at this in two fold. He's going after the people who are funding these protests. That's number one. That's number one. And then you've got the federal government, the DOJ and the FBI coming in and the DH and. Yes, and going after these illegals and uncovering the crime. This is unbelievable. There's so many fronts in this. In Minnesota.

[Doug Burns]

Well, yeah. Again we go right back to the hypocrisy playbook, which is them lecturing us when it suits them. You know, sunlight's the best disinfectant. Okay, fine. Well, we're going to apply that rule now and we're going to put sunlight on the fraud that took place in the state. Two different categories. Those who perpetrated the fraud against the programs and then the Rob Carson point, which is what we. Wait a minute. What about public officials who knew about it looked the other way? What about whistleblowers who stepped forward and were ignored?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Stuff like dog. They knew it was happening. You don't watch It Is Country. Do you think that. Do you think that Tim Vaults and Keith Ellison are going to face criminal charges?

[Doug Burns]

Probably not.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Oh, dear God. Why the hell not?

[Doug Burns]

The Same reason that Rob Carson bemoans every day of the week, which is you say, oh, yeah, we shouldn't have two tiers or standards of justice. Well, guess what, welcome to the party. There are two different standards.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Unbelievable. By the way, one other thing. Grand jury ordered and paneled in Fort Pierce, Florida. Crossfire hurricane. The Ray Armara logo under scrutiny may explain Obama's frequent trips to UK over the last year. What's going to happen here? We talk about this grant, this grand conspiracy against Trump. Go ahead.

[Doug Burns]

Very good development. Obviously, grand jury. And by the way, there are emails, this is key emails, internal FBI emails saying they did not, repeat, did not think they had probable cause to do the search. Not to be melodramatic, that search of Mar A Lago was the most outrageous law enforcement maneuver I've ever seen in my life.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Well, I gotta tell you, I just pray for that. I'm just sick and I think the American people are sick and damn tired of people getting power, getting away with this nonsense. But I do appreciate you as always, nothing to talk about. Maybe next week we'll just talk about, about, you know what.

[Doug Burns]

Rapid fire session.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I swear to God, enjoyed it, Doug. Bless you, man. I appreciate you have a glorious rest of your week. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Ron Carson Show. I want some damn people in the government to be held accountable for the bullcrap they put us through. We live in an oligarchy. We live in an oligarchy. I said this for a very long time. You know, when the oligarchs really started building, Hillary Clinton, when they left office, became multi, multi billionaires, sold political influence to, you know, the people who owned the companies that benefited from the Uranium One deal that she did when she was Secretary of State. It happened, it happened, it happened. We live in an oligarchy. Bernie Sanders has four houses. Liz Warren, she's got two plus million dollar houses. We got people who go to Washington D.C. spend their entire lives telling us how to live ours. And what do we do? We have to feast on the crumbs. So bloody tired of this nonsense. I want some SOBs to go to jail. I want him to go to jail. Gold is at 45. 97 today. Just under, just over $4,500. $4,600. Real close, real close. Down about $24 from yesterday. Silver's up. Silver is, is at 87.40 today. $87. Silver is at $87. Forgot sake. Can you believe this nonsense? Wow. It's not nonsense. It's about instability in the world. You know, you got Iran getting ready to fall, God willing, Donald Trump, give him a little kick in the butt. Give the, give the little Liator, give him a kick in the butt because that, that's got to happen. The Iranian people are depending on you, man. You're Superman. Get in there, swoop in, help them out. Come on, bro, go into the phone booth, change your outfit, get out of that Clark kit, that, that's suit, get into Superman. We got to do it. But it all affects the price of gold. If you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold will offer you a rebate up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility, start the process, just text Rob to 989898. You know that little, that ball of angst you feel in your stomach when you see what's happening in Minnesota and you see what's happening in Iran? That means gold is going to go up because gold is solid. Gold has been valuable for as long as humanity has known about it. And it's a great investment. So text my name, Rob to 989898. Rob to 989898 to get the ball rolling on gold. And again, qualifying purchases up to $10,000. When it's your first time, they'll be gentle. They will. They will claim your eligibility today. Again, rob 298-9898. On the other side of the break, we're going to talk about the mania guiding the left, the Democrat Party. Everybody in the country is recognizing what I recognized a year ago, that the Democrat Party and the left are run by insane liberal Karens and the emasculated men in their lives. That's coming up. This is the Rob Carson SHOW.