Elon Musk, Joe Rogan & the $10,000 Debit Card That Broke Democracy

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Elon Musk, Joe Rogan & the $10,000 Debit Card That Broke Democracy
Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Guests: Joe Rogan (clip), Elon Musk (clip), John Reed (VA Lieutenant Governor Candidate), Kristi Noem (SD Governor), Brooke Rollins, others

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Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show centers on high-stakes politics, immigration policy, welfare benefits, and accusations of strategic electoral manipulation—especially focusing on recent conversations involving Elon Musk and Joe Rogan. With humor and sharp criticism, Rob dissects the state of U.S. democracy, the role of illegal immigration, and what he sees as the Democratic Party’s efforts to build a new voting base through government benefits. The episode uses notable interviews and political commentary to frame an argument about contemporary electoral politics and the erosion of traditional democratic safeguards.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter and Humor (00:00 – 02:00)

• Rob opens the show light-heartedly before shifting quickly to more serious commentary.
• Sports (68-yard NFL field goal) prompt a comic aside about rule changes and the changing values in American life, serving as a metaphor for politics.

2. The Central Political Allegation: “Buying” Votes Through Government Benefits (04:00 – 19:00)

• Explosive claims are made that Democratic Party leaders have intentionally expanded the welfare state for illegals (SNAP, Medicaid, debit cards), and rolled back voter ID laws to secure electoral advantage.
• Rob frames these actions as existential threats to democracy.

Notable Quote

"The Democrat Party has replaced people in those states because people who come across this border...look at $10,000 on a visa card and SNAP benefits and free health care and all of that. That is a dream come true. And whatever party gives them that, they will vote Democrat.”
– Rob Carson (07:39)

Elon Musk & Joe Rogan’s Analysis (15:11 – 19:02)

• Clips from a Musk-Rogan interview highlight:
  • The alleged deliberate weakening of voter ID requirements.
  • Accusations that Democrats “turn a blind eye” to illegal voting.
  • Discussion of a $10,000 debit card given to immigrants as “slush funds.”
  • Claims that these incentives and benefits are designed to ensure Democratic voting dominance.

Notable Quote

"If you have open borders and you provide a ton of government handouts...they will be beholden to you and they will vote for you. And that's why Obama and Hillary went from against open borders to for open borders—in order to import voters.”
– Elon Musk to Joe Rogan (16:14)

• Rob sums up the argument: “Your Democrat Party is so freaking stinking evil…They have to reinvent themselves or disappear into the dustbin of history.” (08:31)

3. Media Manipulation & Polling Narratives (19:45 – 24:00)

• Rob expresses strong skepticism about mainstream poll results, citing sudden polling shifts showing Democrats ahead right before elections and suggesting this is designed to suppress Republican turnout.
• Uses recent examples from Virginia and New Jersey as evidence.

4. Interview: John Reed, VA Lieutenant Governor Candidate (24:10 – 31:19)

• Reed describes being “outspent by radicals” but claims momentum is with grassroots conservatives.
• Criticizes Democrats for “no grace for any error,” while ignoring major issues within their own ranks.
• Reed says his own campaign focuses on honesty and depth, in contrast with his opponent’s reliance on outside money and generalities.

Notable Quotes

“You lose your job if you use the wrong pronoun… But I’m supposed to suddenly forgive someone threatening to murder one of his Republican colleagues and their two children?”
– John Reed (25:12)

“This is the problem with Democrats. They promise the world with other people’s money…every country that is in devastation has bought into the socialist mindset…Eventually the system collapses and everybody winds up in poverty.”
– John Reed (30:29)

5. Deeper Dive: The Mechanics of Alleged Benefit Fraud (32:53 – 38:33)

• Further discussions and clips focus on how easy it is, under current systems, for non-citizens to register and vote, emphasizing the online honor system.

Kristi Noem Segment (33:40)

• Claims over 9 million Social Security cards granted to non-citizens under Biden administration.

Brooke Rollins Segment (34:50)

• Discusses an “explosion” in SNAP benefits, alleged refusal by blue states to share data, and multiple arrests for fraud.

6. The Stakes for Democracy—A Final Warning (36:39 – 40:53)

• Elon Musk speculates that, had Trump lost, there would "never have been another real election again."
• Conversation pivots to Social Security as a “de facto national ID” and the alleged ease of benefit fraud for illegals.
• Rob and his guests argue that this is the ultimate threat to American democracy and represents a deliberate strategy by Democrats to “replace” the current voter base.

Notable Quote

"This is why the border was opened. This is why the Democrat party is doing everything it can to keep the illegals...because they're here for votes. End of story. That's it. They need to throw elections to win elections because they're intellectually and morally bankrupt."
– Rob Carson (40:53)

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Memorable Moments & Noteworthy Quotes

• On Open Borders and Democracy:
  “The Democratic Party wants to destroy democracy by importing voters the Republican Party disagrees with.”
  – Elon Musk (18:38)

• On Media Psyops:
  “It is all a psyop and it’s all bullcrap to keep you from getting to joy and patriotism and loving the country as founded…”
  – Rob Carson (12:37)

• On Polls Before Election Day:
  “It’s always the Democrats are ahead until the last day. And then all of a sudden, holy crap, Donald Trump won in 2016, and holy crap, Donald Trump won in 2024.”
  – Rob Carson (22:22)

• On Systemic Fraud:
  “It sounds so insane that this isn’t chased down…That, I mean, that in and of itself is…that’s such mishandling.”
  – Joe Rogan (40:42)

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Key Timestamps

• Opening & NFL Field Goal Banter: 00:00 – 02:00
• Immigration, Welfare, and Voter ID Claims: 04:00 – 19:00
• Elon Musk/Joe Rogan Interview Clips: 15:11 – 19:02, 36:39 – 40:53
• Poll Skepticism, VA/NJ State Races: 19:45 – 24:10
• John Reed Interview: 24:10 – 31:19
• Discussion of SNAP, Social Security, and Alleged Voter Fraud: 32:53 – 40:53

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Tone and Style

• Rob Carson’s tone is punchy, sardonic, passionate, and deeply critical of the Democratic Party and the media.
• Guests and cited clips echo this urgency and skepticism, combining anecdotal evidence and policy critique with political humor and outrage.
• The episode prioritizes conveying a sense of imminent, high-stakes conflict over U.S. democratic processes, integrating interview clips to support broader arguments.

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Summary

This episode of The Rob Carson Show is an energetic, controversial, and provocative critique of Democratic immigration and welfare policy, laced with humor and dire warnings. Rob Carson argues that open borders and expanded benefits for illegal immigrants represent an existential threat to American democracy, as described by both himself and through extensive references to a Joe Rogan–Elon Musk interview. The episode is also a rallying cry for conservative turnout, emphasizing skepticism of polling and the strength of grassroots movements over establishment candidates and media narratives.

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Kristi Noem]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Kristi Noem]

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[Brooke Rollins]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Elon Musk]

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[Rob Carson]

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[John Reed]

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[Rob Carson]

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[John Reed]

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[Rob Carson]

Best mobile network in the US based on analysis by Ooklove Speed Test Intelligence data 182025 Visit T mobile.com hold it. Now. You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world Wide web. This is the Rob Carson show. Thank God it's Monday. Welcome to the show. Please come inside. Man, I can't wait to just have a little R and R. It'll work like, you know, 12 hours a day or 14 hours a day during the week. Because I'll tell you what, I didn't get a whole lot of a break this weekend. I was working on the studio and everything. I'm. I'm building a studio here in Washington D.C. i think the culmination of like the last year kind of hit me. I'm. I'm just kind of a little bit kind of toasty this morning. I don't know if it's because of the lack of sleep. I don't know if it's because of the time change. You know, we had the time change, we all fell back and everything. Or, or if it was the Z quill. I took it like two in the morning. I'm not sure what the hell it is. But anyway, I'm just glad it's. It's funny. Tomorrow is the election day. Tomorrow's election day. Of course. Something big happened yesterday. Something really big happened yesterday. 68 yards away. It's up there.

[John Reed]

It's out there.

[Rob Carson]

And it's good. It's gone from 68. Kidding me. Just driving that ball. You see the low trajectory. But look at this. I mean, that's good. From 70. And this is regular season. Wow. And he's had, he's had a rough year, a sophomore slump, they'll tell you. Jacksonville, you know, they had such a great rookie. It's all great. They got a 60, 68 yard field goal. But what the hell, I mean, what are we going to do now? We just going to do the kickoff and eliminate the audience, all the offense altogether? I mean, honestly, shouldn't we kind of have a limitation on to how far out you can kick a field goal? 68 yards, that is. Where do you get, you get spotted on the, if you just, if you just down the ball on the kickout, you're going to go to the 25. So literally you've only got another, what, seven yards to go before you can get. You only got to get 7 yards of offense to kick the damn field goal. What the heck is that going to do? What happens when somebody decides he can kick it 100 yards? Why even, why even bother kicking off the dang ball? Just, just have two field goal kickers play the whole damn game. There you go. Just two people on the team. Honestly. 68 yard field goal. I'd like to celebrate this. I don't think it's good for the game. Am I wrong? I'm not saying I'm some sort of a sage or terribly knowledgeable. I mean, I have been watching football most of my adult life, but 68 yard field goal, is that a good thing? Is that a good thing for football that somebody can kick the ball after literally just doing seven yards of offense and then kick the ball? Well, I guess if you had 10, so 17 yards of offense and then you kick the ball. There you go. Chiefs lost yesterday. The Bills came to play. That's, you know, they just, they just did. I, I'm, I'm. I guess maybe the Kansas City Chiefs weren't able to pay off the refs this time. Because God knows the only reason Kansas City wins is because the refs love, you know, their quarterback so much and the Kansas City Chiefs so much. That's what I get when I live here in Northern Virginia when I wear my Chiefs hat. Oh, yeah, Kansas City Chiefs, they cheat all the time. Well, I guess they didn't pay off the reps enough last night. Unbelievable. Anyway, that was my, my initial thought on the, on the events of the day, but there's much more. I'VE got. Oh my God, a terrific interview Elon Musk did with Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan does such a good job with in depth interviews. And now I know. Now we all know, and you will know if you don't, why the Democrat Party is so violently trying to prevent ICE from deporting illegals. Because they did exactly what you thought they were going to do. They opened the southern border to 25 or 30 million illegals. They expanded the welfare state dramatically. They, they got rid of voter ID so you cannot prove voter fraud in states like California so illegals can vote en masse. And the Democrat Party has replaced people in those states because people who come across this border and many of them from poor countries, they look at $10,000 on a visa card and SNAP benefits and free health care and all of that. That is a dream come true. And whatever party gives them that, they will vote Democrat. That's it. Your Democrat Party is so freaking stinking evil. It is so ridiculous. I told you. They have to reinvent themselves or disappear into the dustbin of history. And this Democrat Party has to disappear into the dustbin of history. And it's doing a good job of that anyway because it's leechy lur left toward socialism, communism. And I will tell you, when that happens nationally, then they will get their asses beaten into the ground. It is not going to exist in this country. It will not exist as long as I am alive. It will not exist as long as you are alive. You can say all you want about these, these new polls that so your college students really think communism is a good idea? Well, who the bleep cares what college students think? Because they don't know D word about Richard. Because they haven't lived any life, they've never paid any bills, they've never had any jobs. So how about shut up and how about learn a little bit about history, you little punks. Honestly. So done with this nonsense. Andrew Cuomo, Curtis Lewa. Closing the gap on socialists. He's not a socialist. He's a radical Islamist. He's just lying to the socialists and telling them that he's going to give them all sorts of free stuff including cheap groceries and free housing and all that. He has no plan for paying for it. He's just using the left young people like the useful idiots that Lenin used in his riot to power. You know why? Because they're young and stupid and ignorant. There you go. That's why I said when Zoran Mandami became the candidate in New York City, when Was that back in November, December, I said I didn't think that he'd be able to be the. The mayor of. Of New York City. I just didn't see how once everybody was awakened, particularly the Jewish people were awakened, this would be possible for this man who has no life experience whatsoever, has never had a job. A kid in high school who worked at Orange Julius in the mall food court for a summer has more job experience than this punk. But he is a radical Islamist. He says what he needs to say, and he does it with that sickening, sweet, fake smile. It's even faker than Gavin Newsom smile. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. But even worse, there's a reason why these radical Islamists still love him, even though he's pro lgbtqia. Do you know why? Because he's playing the young idiots who believe that he really loves them a lot, and he's gonna give them a lot of free stuff. And the radical imams know. He's saying what he's gotta do to get in office. He's saying what he's gotta do. Even though he has no business at all running anything. Anything. He has no business running anything. He doesn't have the life experience. He doesn't have the knowledge. He doesn't have the intelligence. He is a. He is like, I don't know. Was that president from 2008 until about 2016? Yeah. He didn't have a whole lot of life experience either. He was a community organizer. Yeah, community organizer. But just like so many in the Democrat Party, say, for instance, in the state of Virginia, they got a woman there, Gazella Hajmi, who is paid for by this same people that. That Zo. Rod Mondami is George Soros. She's not doing any debates. She's not doing any appearances. She's just relying on $8 million coming into the state to buy ads and smother the competition. Because John Reed, who's running for lieutenant governor, is busting his ass every day for the last year on the campaign trail. Everywhere. Everywhere, everywhere. He can't afford to buy ads on D.C. television stations or Richmond television stations. But George Soro. And then you've got every poll. Have you ever noticed that? Every single poll, no matter where it is, local, state, federal, whatever, Democrats are always ahead before the election day. Always. Do you ever see headlines, Democrat far behind has got a lot of work to do to win this election. It's never that. It's never. It'll be a major come from behind victory if the Democrat can actually beat the Republican. It never happens. It's always polling that shows that the Democrat is way out ahead. So why even vote at all? And this weekend ABC News came out with a new poll. Abc, Wall street or no Washington Post, two left leaning enterprises decide to unleash a poll about what people think about Donald Trump's economy. And 53% say it's worse than Joe Biden's economy. Well that's just frickin stupid because Joe Biden it increased inflation on groceries by 50%, doubled the price of homes, doubled the price of cars, tripled the, tripled the damned interest rates and blew up the entitlement state, blew up the SNAP benefit state 50%. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. Everybody knows Joe Biden did a crappy job as the President and the economy was terrible. But the left is doing its level best to convince you that Donald Trump's doing a terrible job. Even though he's the greatest damn President we've ever seen. He's done more to bring money manufacturing into this country and world peace around the world and they have been just destroying him for nine months including burning Tesla dealerships and holding no Kings rallies and throwing temper tantrums and going after signal gates and trying to create all sorts of bull crap. This is what it has been a non stop war for 10 years on Donald Trump and US and they've only increased it and now they're out and outlying before and they're polling in favor of Democrats as they always do. Two weeks ago we had a neck and neck race with winsome Sears and Spam Burger in Virginia. It was one point. Yesterday they say oh no, Spam burgers ahead by 10. Why even bother voting? Bull crap. Bull crap. They are going down like movie vampires. The left is dying like movie vampires. They will do anything they can to win. They will tell you any sort of you need to hear to convince you that they are winning and you are losing and that Donald Trump is doing a bad job, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It is all a psyop and it's all bullcrap to keep you from getting to joy and patriotism and loving the country is founded and all of that. And guess what? We're going to roll over them like speed bumps. The new Atlas intel survey has Zoran Bondani leading the field with 40.6% of the vote. Former New York Governor Reg Democrat registry is independent up to 34% and the gap is closing. Six points in this election is nothing according to the former governor Laid told reporters campaigning Saturday in Brownsville, Brooklyn. Of course, you, you heard that in, in the, the state of New Jersey that Mr. Ciatarelli is caught up with Smiling Mikey or whatever the hell her name is. And then, and then all of a sudden, yesterday, oh, there's seven points. She's ahead by seven points. Really? Really. What does the energy and momentum of his campaign tell you that she's still ahead by seven points? The people in New Jersey are sick and damn tired of what New Jersey has been doing and what Democrats have done in New Jersey. All you gotta do is get your butts out and vote. All you gotta do. And when you hear this audio from Elon Musk was in charge of Doge, who they attacked. They called the Nazi. They burned his car dealership. His car sales went down 25%. He ended up leaving the government because when you hear what he has to say about what Democrats did to bring illegals in, what they give them, what states like California give them and then allow them to vote, then you'll understand why people like JB Titzler are standing in the schoolhouse door to keep ICE from evicting illegals. And you know what? It's not going to work. It's not going to work. There you go. Well, I started off the show kind of sleepy. Kind of. And not so much anymore. No, no, no, not so. Enjoy. We've got so much coming up today on the show. John Reed's gonna join us at the bottom of the hour, among other things. Let's go ahead and take a break. This, my friends, is a Monday edition of the Rob Carson Show.

[John Reed]

The Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere. Go to newsmax.com listen for details.

[Rob Carson]

My values have not changed.

[John Reed]

A hashtag, abolish ice, referring to the enforcement agency when it comes to immigration. Listen to what your colleague Senator Kamala Harris said about the idea of abolishing ice. Here's what she told my colleague Casey Hunt.

[Kristi Noem]

Examine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing. And we need to probably think about starting from scratch.

[Rob Carson]

Abolish ice.

[Kristi Noem]

This is a refrain that we've heard increasingly from your Democratic colleagues. Some even potential 20.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, this started way back in like 2018. The Democrat Party started talking about abolishing ICE. Abolishing ICE. And then, oddly enough, Joe Biden got into office by hook, by crook, mostly by crook. And then open the southern border to 20 million illegals. Isn't that crazy how that happened? Isn't that just crazy how that happened? And Then and then a couple years ago, they blew up government benefits. I mean by 50% for SNAP benefits going to illegals. A good 53% of people on SNAP now get are illegals. They are not here legally. And all sorts of other, you know, for instance, you hear this battle cry about we need, we need $1.5 trillion of health care. That's what the den Democrats are doing. That's what they want in this. They reopen the government. They want $1.5 trillion for health care for illegals. Why is that? Well, let me, let Joe Rogan explain it to you. I should say Elon Musk talking to Joe Rogan about it.

[Elon Musk]

So why did they change their tune? The reason is that they discovered that those people vote for them. That's why they want the open borders.

[Joe Rogan]

Because if you let people in, they know the Democrats let them in, they'll vote for Democrats. If you allow them to vote, which.

[Elon Musk]

They'Re actively doing, they turn a blind eye to illegal voting.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, California literally doesn't allow you to show your license.

[Rob Carson]

What?

[Elon Musk]

California and New York have made it illegal to show your photo id.

[Rob Carson]

Isn't that interesting? The Democrats have been pushing no photo ID and calling it racist for years when voting.

[Elon Musk]

Thus effectively, they've made it impossible to prove fraud. Fraud, impossible. They've essentially legalized there's no voter fraud.

[Rob Carson]

Because they never pursue it.

[Elon Musk]

Fraudulent voting in California and New York and many other parts of the country. You know, the Democratic Party in the US and the left in Europe realized.

[Rob Carson]

That this is why what's happening in Europe is happening here. The open border, you know, massive amounts illegals, including a lot of Islamists.

[Elon Musk]

If you have open borders and you provide a ton of government handouts, which creates a massive financial incentive for people from other countries to come to your country and you don't prosecute them for crime, they're going to be beholden to you and they will vote for you. And that's why Obama and Hillary went from being against open borders to being in favor of open borders in order to import voters so they can win elections. They will import enough voters to get super majority voting and then there is no turning back.

[Rob Carson]

And they don't care how many people get raped and murdered or trafficked or anything. This is why your Democrat party has to be blown completely out of existence. It has to end. The Democrat party has to end. It's going to end. It's killing itself. It's leaning so far into the left that it's going to kill itself. But honestly, it cannot continue to exist as it is right now because it has descended into absolute hell.

[Elon Musk]

So California and New York and Illinois lie like crazy and say that these are all legitimate payments. Well, these days I think they're even admitting that they literally want.

[Rob Carson]

This is massive amounts of money from Medicare and Medicaid. This is the health care for illegals we've been talking about. This is the $1.5 trillion that the Democrats want to reopen the government because they know they absolutely have to have it or they're going to lose everything.

[Elon Musk]

Hundreds of billions of dollars for illegals. You get these transfer payments for every government program you can possibly think of. New York, Illinois and other states. When they would lie, there was no actual enforcement to say, like, hey, you're lying. These payments are fraudulent. Now under the Trump administration. The Trump administration does not want to send hundreds of billions of dollars of fraudulent payments to the states. And the reason you have this better.

[Rob Carson]

Shut down the government and extort it.

[Elon Musk]

Then standoff is because if the hundreds of billions of dollars to create a financial incentive to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of earth to these states, if that is turned off, the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to come to the United States and better shut down the government. Stay here. And then the Democratic Party will lose a lot of voters. The Democratic Party wants to destroy democracy by importing voters the Republican Party disagrees with.

[Joe Rogan]

Ruse is that if you don't accept what they're doing, then you're a threat to democracy.

[Elon Musk]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

Wow, that is crazy. Here's some more from Elon Musk telling the truth.

[Elon Musk]

They were also giving out like debit cards with $10,000.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Remember that?

[Elon Musk]

So it's not just about medical care.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. They were taking the health care money. The Democrats want the 1.5 trillion and spending it on other things to get people to vote for Democrats.

[Elon Musk]

The Democrats mentioned the medical care because they're trying to prey on people empathy as much as possible. And then they imagine, oh wow, somebody has a desperately needed medical procedure and shouldn't we maybe do, you know, take care of them in that regard? But what they do is they divert the Medicaid funds and turn it into a slush fund for the states that goes well beyond emergency medical care. New York and California would be bankrupt without the massive fraudulent federal payments that go to those states to pay for illegals, to create a massive financial incentive for illegals.

[Joe Rogan]

How would they be bankrupt because of that?

[Elon Musk]

They wouldn't be able to balance their state budgets and they can't issue currency like the Federal Reserve.

[Rob Carson]

And the same thing is going with regard to the explosion in the money spent on SNAP benefits. Because you see, people can actually sell their benefits. They can sell the things they buy with SNAP and not report income. Criminals can intake fake card readers in public spaces such as grocery stores, gas stations, liquor stores that copy electronic benefit transfer card data and deplete benefits paid in fiscal year 2023, or I should say in June 24th. Anyway, they're taking money that we give them. They're using it under the guise of health care and they're paying off people to vote. They're giving them free hotel stays in New York City and bank cards with loads, loads of money on it. This is why Democrats want ICE gotten rid of. This is why Democrats are so anti getting rid of people who came here illegally. The Democrat party is evil. That's just it. That's that and that's all. Tomorrow's election day. We're going to talk to John Reed, lieutenant governor candidate from Virginia National. Hey guys, it's Carson. Forget fresh olive oil. I eat olive oil every day. I got rid of seed oils years ago. Life is too short to not have wonderful fresh olive oil. And I mean fresh olive oil packs the most flavor and healthy ingredients when it's fresh from the farm. And that's the problem with supermarket olive oils. They're not fresh. They could sit on the shelf for months growing stale. That's why I get my olive oil from small, award winning farms thanks to a fellow named T.J. robinson, also known as the olive oil hunter. When I tasted TJ Farms fresh olive oils, I fell in love with their vibrant, grassy flavors. They were incredibly delicious on salad, veggies, pasta, meat, fish, you name it. And as an introduction to his fresh pressed Olive Oil Club, TJ is willing to send you a full size $39 bottle up one of the world's finest artisanal olive oils fresh from the new harvest for just $1 to help him cover shipping. There's no commitment to buy anything now or later. Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 and taste the difference freshness makes. Go to getfreshrobcarson.com that's getfreshrobcarson.com for a free bottle and pay just $1 shipping. Get fresh robcarson.com and Abigail. And Abigail doesn't just believe in working with everybody. She also believes, and this is really important in listening to everybody, whether they voted for or not, because she knows that if we want to make, make progress on the things that we care about, we have to be able to disagree without calling each other nasty names or demonizing each other. Okay, there's Barack Obama doing what he does best. That is lying, saying that, oh, we never call anybody names. Nazi, white supremacists, all of that. He, he came into Virginia yesterday because Abigail Spamberger is a little bit nervous about the governor's race, even though the polls are saying, oh, yeah, there is no chance in there. You can. She's out seven points. She's ahead of, of, you know, winsome Sears by seven points. Don't even bother voting. That's the way they are. Kind of. It's not. It's. It's interesting because a week ago, a lot of the polls were saying winsome Sears. They were neck and neck, and then all of a sudden it's like seven points. I don't believe it. Not one little bit. The same goes for what's happening in New Jersey. It was neck and neck. And then I'm here in the last two days. Oh, no. You know, Mikey, Cherelle's ahead by seven. Bullcrap. It's always bullcrap. They always say that the Democrats are going to win. You never in any race. I don. I think it's been years before I heard, you know, Democrat has a long way to go when it comes from high victory. If they're going to beat a Republican, it's always the Democrats are ahead until the last day. And then all of a sudden, holy crap, Donald Trump won in 2016, and holy cap, Donald Trump won in 2024. He never let in any one of those polls. So don't believe the polling. The Democrat Party is particularly desperate right now because they are losing on all fronts. And Donald Trump has an amazing presidency in the state of Virginia. We've got three big races. One of them is that for Lieutenant G. Governor, we've got a great guy, John Reed, running against a woman who is being bought and paid for by the same people who are funding Zoran Mondami's campaign. This is true. John Reed joins us on the Newsmax hotline right now. John Reed, how are you today?

[John Reed]

I'm great. You know, I'm getting outspent by the radicals, but I'm working harder than anybody else, and I think that still counts in Virginia. So I'm in Roanoke, Virginia right now, up in the mountains talking to you, and I'm excited about it. I think I'm. The momentum and the excitement is on our side. That makes sense. A, we're right on the issues and B, we don't threaten to kill our political opponents. That's a, that's a win on both counts. Right?

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know, I noticed that, that they decided to try to polish Jay Jones this weekend with Barack Obama coming into town to, to campaign for Spamberger and kind of forget last like Jay Jones had said those things and those things that would not have qualified him for a job as AG otherwise, or if they were hiring at the Justice Department, he wouldn't have passed a background check. But they thought that Barack Obama coming to town would paint a veneer on it and make us forget about all of it. I don't think it's going to work.

[John Reed]

It's not going to work. Look, in modern America, if you listen to the Democrats, you lose your job if you use the wrong pronoun for someone who is delusional and thinks they're a different sex than they really are. You lose your job if you crack a sexist joke at two in the morning. I mean, there's so many things where you go, God, there's no grace for any error. But I'm supposed to suddenly forgive someone threatening to murder one of his Republican colleagues and their two children and then say that it's okay if the cops die because that'll make the cops stop, stop behaving badly. Give me a break. This is outrageous. This is a part of the DNA, unfortunately, of the modern Democrat Party. I think people are tired of it. They want reasonable and responsible leaders who are going to be fair to everybody. And that's why I'm running. And I know that's why Winsome wants to be there. And Jason, too. I think we're going to win.

[Rob Carson]

I do, too. You know, the media, though, is leaning into, you know, polling that is kind of opposite of what it has been. And also I'll mention people like ABC News came out in the poll this weekend that suddenly, out of nowhere, despite four years of absolute hell economy with Joe Biden, that suddenly 53% in a ABC Washington Post poll say that the economy is worse under Trump. This a couple days before the election. This is the kind of chicanery and nonsense, but being on the ground says the total opposite. I saw an event, you did this where you walk down into a town hall, probably a thousand people, which you normally don't get for a lieutenant governor race. But you had a big crowd and people were very enthusiastic to hear you speak this weekend. John?

[John Reed]

Yeah, listen, I've been, I'M a native Virginian. I was on television for 10 years. I built trust that way. I was an investigative reporter and one of the anchors at an ABC TV station. And then for the last eight years, I've been kind of one of the leading thought leader commentators doing a talk show similar to yours, Rob. And you know, people, people begin, if they listen on a regular basis, they know whether you're shooting straight with them or not. And that's the reputation I've tried to build. I've criticized people in my own party when it's been necessary, when it's been called for. But I try to shoot straight with folks. And I think there is a hunger in the United States of America and in Virginia for people who will do that. It won't just feed you some talking points that were crafted by somebody up in D.C. but you know, people who will tell you what they think and will stick with it and stand up when, when you need someone to do that. And I will do that. I've proven it for the last decade. And I think that's why people are rallying around me instead of the radical Islamists and the socialists who are pushing the current Democrat ticket, including my opponent.

[Rob Carson]

This weekend you posted on social media a milk carton with Gazella Hajmi's face on it because she is not doing, she's not doing anything, dude. She's not. She does not want to be confronted. She doesn't want to get challenged. She wants George Soros money to speak for her to overwhelm you because you can't afford the big money ads on, on D.C. television stations because it's very, very expensive. She's got $8 million coming in from other parts of the country and George Soros, among others. So she's just letting the media do the talking for her. Her. Where have you seen her? Where is she? Been out. John, she hasn't done a single debate with you. You've been out there for. She hasn't done a single debate. She's not interested in doing interviews or anything. She just does a tag at the end of her spots saying, I'm Gazella Osmi and I approve this message. That's it.

[John Reed]

I've only met her in person, I think, one time, and that was here in Rome many months ago. I shook hands with her and we were polite to each other, but that's the last time I've seen her in person. I think. I don't, I don't think I've even run, run into, you know, sometimes when you Go to an event, you'll see your opponent coming or going when you're arriving or leaving. She doesn't even do that. That's why I did the world's first artificial intelligence debate and actually made her look better than in real life. That's how fair I'm trying to be. I could have ridiculed her. I could have used her dumbest comments. But I wanted to shoot straight with the people of Virginia. And I think most people who watched that debate saw her opinions and disagreed with them and then saw me walk in off the street after a 14 hour, no rehearsal, no teleprompter. And they have confidence that I'll make good decisions that are grounded in solid conservative principles.

[Rob Carson]

You know the thing that I've noticed about Democrats and including Abigail Spamberger and your opponent, they never speak. They always speak in generalities. There's no specifics with regard to policy. It's always promise this, promise that, and attack your. Your opponent. For instance, Cittarelli's got magnificent plans for, for lowering the price of energy and whatnot. And his opponent does nothing but promise, promise, promise. Same way with Zoran Mandan. He's promising free buses. Free buses. And the service is going to get better and it's going to get faster. That's not going to happen. But they are all about generalities, all about just getting across the finish line, overwhelming you with messaging and no details.

[John Reed]

Yeah, this is the problem with the Democrats. They do promise the world with other people's money. And you know, I had a career as an international businessman. I've been to 113 different countries around the world. Every country that is in devastation has bought into the socialist mindset of tax the businesses, tax the wealthy, and then give free things to other people. And eventually the system collapses and everybody winds up in poverty. Of course, the rich people fly out or go off to Paris or London and kind of wait out their time hoping they can come back home.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[John Reed]

But everybody else is stuck and we can't let that happen happen in the United States.

[Rob Carson]

We've got to take a break. We've got to take a break. Can you hold on through the break and then we'll wrap things up with, with a message to the voters as they go to the polls tomorrow. Can you hold on with just a couple of moments, John?

[John Reed]

We'll do it.

[Rob Carson]

All right. I appreciate it, brother. I know you're busy. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. It is a Rob Carson Show. John Reed had To go. He had a TV hit. Obviously he's very busy. If you are in Virginia and you haven't voted yet, do so tomorrow. Polls are open everywhere tomorrow. And, and obviously you got all sorts of things going on. You got a New Jersey race going on there. You've got Zoran Mandami in New York City. The race is tightening up there and the Democrat Party is doing everything they can to convince you. And one of the things I, you know, the, the, the ongoing government shutdown down is now over a month. It's the longest in history. And the Democrat Party wants to extort another $1.5 trillion out of us for illegals to get health care. And it's really not health care, as you heard earlier from Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. It's about billions, hundreds of billions of dollars being sent to states like California that they can take the money and use it for whatever largess they decide to heap on illegals. So they will vote illegally. And this is why they say, oh yeah, you know, you can't vote illegally and there's no voter fraud in. This is a California sheriff talking about how easily it is to vote if you're illegal. The way the voting system is structured, we see quite a few flaws. You're able to register even if, and cast a vote if you don't live in the country. As evident of his brother in Pakistan. I think we have some evidence of two or three other people out of the country that voted.

[Elon Musk]

Is that correct?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, approximately two or three other people out of the country as well as people residing outside of the district. The online voter registration system, it seems to be an honor system. An honor system. Anybody can put information in there to, to register a vote. All you have to do is click a box and say that you're not lying and then you'll get an email. Very easy. It's very, very easy to figure out that the Democrat Party cheats. This is why they've been fighting Donald Trump tooth and nail about deporting illegals. This is why they brought 20 to 30 million people into the country illegally while they could. Here is Kristi Noem talking about the millions of illegals that came across the southern border when Joe Biden was the president. And how many of them have Social Security cards? Why would they have that?

[Kristi Noem]

It happens when you put a train wreck like Joe Biden in the White House and it's going to be a lot of work to clean it up. But just in the last four and a half years, we've had over 9 million people get Social Security numbers that are not U.S. citizens. So they may be people who have some sort of legal status but a lot of of them are illegals that were given a Social Security number in just the last four and a half years that we're going to have to figure out if they should be here. If they are here legally under a program and if they are here illegally then they certainly shouldn't be using that Social Security number to be on our programs and they should be removed or given the opportunity.

[Rob Carson]

You bring in people from third world countries and you give them free free hotel stay free SNAP benefits, spending money on a card. They are a voter for life. And this is why Democr want to get rid of IDs and everything and all of the proof that you're actually a citizen to vote and whatnot because they know exactly what they're trying to do. This is Brooke Rollins, the Secretary of Agriculture talking about SNAP benefits which by the way coincidentally increased by like 60%. 60% right after Joe Biden became the President and he opened the southern border.

[Brooke Rollins]

Day one of USDA February 13th is we sent letters to every governor in America. America being very clear that no illegal aliens can use SNAP000 we asked every state for the first time in history and this was in February to send us their data and let us with DOGE and a war room actually start going through this data to better understand how this explosion of SNAP benefits happened under Joe Biden. We increased almost 40% on this program in just a couple of years under the Biden administration. Of course we know they were trying to buy the election but that's a conversation for. And since we have asked for that data 29 states have complied. Of course almost all the red states, couple of the. You know a couple blue states too. But in that data and I haven't talked about this yet publicly in that data we have found we've studied about $100 billion in spend. We have found thousands and thousands of illegal use of the EBT card. We have been moving people off of snap. We've got got almost 700,000 people. I think we've moved off just since the President took office. We've arrested about 118 people. So this has been ongoing. But Rachel, to your point it's much.

[Rob Carson]

Bigger than that actually snap increased 40% under Biden administration. 21 blue states refused to hand over data to Doge to ensure illegals aren't getting benefits. Thousands of cases of illegal use of the benefit found over 100 people arrested for SNAP fraud, thousands of dead people receiving benefits, benefits, et cetera. This is your Democrat Party. And by the way, they would have, they would have probably never had another election had Donald Trump been able to be defeated. But you see, he wasn't able to be defeated in the last election. I think I've got a little bit more of Elon Musk. Yeah, here's Elon Musk talking about that at last. If Trump had lost, there would never.

[Elon Musk]

Have been another real election again because Trump is actually enforcing the border.

[Rob Carson]

Now.

[Elon Musk]

You can point to situations where there's been, you know, immigration, you know, enforcement has been overzealous because they're not going to be perfect. There'll be cases where they've been overzealous in expelling illegals. So but if you say that the standard must be perfection for expelling legals, then you will not get any expulsion because perfection is impossible.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And this is why they are lining up at schoolhouse doors to prevent Donald Trump and ICE from going in. This is why violence against ICE has increased 8,000%. Because the left, they are dying like movie vampires. They're seeing the end of their cabal. Donald Trump survived 91 counts, four political indictments, attempts to take him off the ballot and attempts to murder him. Never expected him to win. And they're not going out quietly. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Elon Musk]

So then the rebuttal from the Dems is like, oh, well, the vast majority of the people who are marked as live in the Social Security Administration weren't receiving Social Security Administration payments. That is true. What they forgot to mention is they're getting fortunate payments from every other government program. And that's why the names were so opposed to turning off, to declaring someone dead who is dead, because it would stop the entire other, all the other fraud from happening.

[Joe Rogan]

And so. But all this, is it trackable like all this other fraud?

[Elon Musk]

Yeah, it's not even hard.

[Joe Rogan]

And yet they're opposing.

[Rob Carson]

This is why they wanted to get rid of Doge. This is why Elon Musk was a Nazi.

[Joe Rogan]

Chasing it all down.

[Elon Musk]

They're prosing chasing it all down because it would. It turns off the money magnet for the illegals.

[Joe Rogan]

And how much money are we talking?

[Elon Musk]

It's hundred hundreds of billions of dollars.

[Rob Carson]

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[Joe Rogan]

But the. All these other government payments that are available that are connected to this Social Security number, it seems like if you just chased that all down.

[Elon Musk]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You would find the widespread fraud.

[Elon Musk]

Yes. But the root of the problem is the Social Security Administration database. The Social Security number in the United States is used as a de facto national ID number. You know, that's why, like the bank always asks for your Social Security. Right. Like, you know, any financial institution will ask for your Social Security number.

[Joe Rogan]

This is. It sounds so insane that this isn't chased down.

[Elon Musk]

Yeah, I agree.

[Joe Rogan]

That, I mean, I mean that in and of itself is. That's such mishandling.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Elon Musk]

It's mind blowing.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. This is why the border was opened. This is why the Democrat party is doing everything it can to keep the illegals they allowed to come in to stay because they're here, here for votes. End of story. That's it. They need to throw elections to win elections because they're intellectually and morally bankrupt and their policies always fail. Marxists and communists go get elected. They steal. Let's take a break and come back hour number two of the Rob Carson show on this Monday coming up. Don't go anywhere. This is the right choice. It's okay not to be perfect with finances. Experian is your big financial friend and here to help. Did you know you can get matched with credit cards on the app? Some cards are labeled no Ding Decline, which means if you're not approved, they won't hurt your credit scores. Download the Experian app for free today. Applying for no Ding Decline cards won't hurt your credit scores. If you aren't initially approved, initial approval will result in a hard inquiry which may impact your credit scores. Experian the holidays mean more travel, more shopping, more time online and more personal info in more places that could expose you more to identity theft. But LifeLock monitors millions of data points per second. If your identity is stolen, our US based restoration specialists will fix it, guaranteed or your money back. Don't face drained accounts, fraudulent loans or financial losses alone. Get more holiday fun and less holiday worry with LifeLock. Save up to 40% your first year. Visit LifeLock.com podcast terms apply.