Epstein Files Bombshells, Venezuela Explosions & Globalist Schemes

Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: "Epstein Files Bombshells, Venezuela Explosions & Globalist Schemes"

Date: September 3, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (w/guest Gordon Chang and caller Shane)
Podcast: Newsmax Radio, syndicated
Theme: A blend of sharp political commentary, cultural criticism, global analysis, and humor focused on breaking stories related to the Epstein files, Venezuela’s drug war, globalist maneuvering, and the shifting power struggle between world powers.

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles three primary explosive topics:

1. Release of the Epstein Files: Fallout and accountability around the major document drop tied to Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes and high-profile connections.
2. Venezuela Drug War Escalation: US military action against drug cartels in the Caribbean, Venezuela’s strongman Maduro, and implications for global security.
3. Globalist Schemes & International Power Games: The rise of globalist policies, immigration controversy, China’s ambitions—in part through alleged organ harvesting, and shifting alliances between nations like Russia, China, North Korea, and India.

The show delivers its trademark mix of satire, rants, insightful guest analysis, and banter—beginning with a humorous nod to Rob Carson’s music radio past before plunging into hot-button headlines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Globalist Manipulation and Cultural Shifts

[03:26–08:58]

• Rob's Call with Shane (Australia): Shane laments the social and political changes down under, blaming "globalists" for stripping resources, pushing division, and engineering mass migration and cultural change.
  • Notable Quote:
    • "If you look at the pictures of the meeting in China, you'll see a bloke named Dan Andrews... He's one of our ex premiers of my state who actually destroyed this country. They've been planted many years ago and they've been doing incredible destructive things to our country." (Shane, 03:52)
  • Shane expresses frustration over national identity ("taking away the Australian flag for the gay pride and aboriginal flag"), claiming these moves "groom" the population, and rails against what he sees as a "test of the waters" by entrenched interests.
• Rob and Shane find common cause, arguing similar "globalist" actions are taking place across the UK and US, and express hope that populist pushback (like Trump's rise) will reverse such trends globally.

2. The Epstein Files Release and Political Fallout

[09:00–15:16]

• Document Dump: Republicans release 34,000+ Epstein files, drawing attention to elite complicity.
  • Rob covers Marjorie Taylor Greene’s statements and the bipartisan blame game over delays in releasing names and details.
  • He argues Democrats would have exploited any evidence against Trump, claiming the real culprits are being shielded.
• Victim Advocacy: The brother of famed Epstein survivor Virginia Giuffre speaks in favor of H.Res581, seeking full transparency and, above all, justice.
  • Quote:
    • "As much as this bill is about shining a light on truth, it's not just about the bill. This is about justice." (Epstein victim’s brother, 13:11)
• Rob adds lurid details reported in the files and expresses hope for accountability:
  • "I do hope that those who indulged Jeffrey Epstein's pedophilia and partook in it are found and held accountable." (Rob Carson, 14:23)

3. Venezuela, Drug Cartels, and Military Escalation

[15:16–19:49]

• News breaks live that a US military strike took out a cartel-controlled boat, signaling a more aggressive anti-drug policy.
• Rob underscores the high stakes:
  • The deployment of US forces against Venezuela’s cartel-nurturing regime is “what I was praying for”—a decisive, Trump-led response.
  • Quote:
    • "You declare them terrorists, then you go after them as terrorists. They should do the same thing with antifa. 100%, by the way. 100%." (Rob Carson, 18:23)
• Guests expound on the implications:
  • Jim Hanson (Special Forces):
    • “This is a message to the cartels and to state leaders who coddle them and allow them to operate that that's no longer a free ride to make money bringing death into the United States.” (18:14)
  • Rob speculates Maduro may not last much longer, given intensified US pressure.

4. The Triad: China, Russia, and North Korea

[20:57–35:12]

• Gordon Chang Interview: Deep dive with China analyst Gordon Chang—
  • Organ Harvesting & Immortality Banter: Rob reacts with horror to Putin, Xi, and Kim Jong Un’s hot-mic discussion of organ transplants and living to 150, linking this to well-documented practices of organ harvesting in Chinese prisons.
  • Gordon confirms:
    • “China has been organ harvesting and it's been the mass murder and it's been doing so for decades. And there's no doubt about it by now because there is so much evidence in that direction.” (Gordon Chang, 21:43)
  • International Power Realignment:
    • The three despotic leaders are putting on a show of force, seeking to frame themselves as a rival axis to the West.
    • Chang is skeptical of the strength/stamina of Putin and Kim, noting particular health woes for Kim and China’s own internal economic stumbles.
  • Byte-sized Economic Analysis:
    • Russia’s “fragile economy,” China’s visible stagnation, the West, and America’s continued underlying strength.
    • "President Trump can change the narrative overnight by doing something to put China in its place." (Gordon Chang, 25:27)
  • India as a Wild Card:
    • Recent India-China-Russia chumminess is interpreted as a signal to Trump after US tariffs frustrated India. Chang criticizes unequal application of sanctions and warns of the narrative risk if the US is seen as “submissive” to China.
• Venezuela-China Drug Connection:
  • Gordon explains China’s 90% share of Venezuelan oil exports, rhetorical support of Venezuela, and the strategic intent behind China’s indirect involvement in the drug trade and their use of fentanyl as asymmetrical warfare.
    • "This is the Chinese state. This is not Chinese gangs. This is... backed by the Chinese state who are in the fentanyl trade." (Gordon Chang, 34:07)
  • He reiterates that Trump’s measured use of force (as seen in Syria, Soleimani strike, and now Venezuela) is effective at signaling US seriousness.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• On Globalist Social Engineering:

  • "What you'll get from an Australian is just the basic truth without too much crap, mate." (Shane, 04:22)
  • "They did the same damn thing in Great Britain and now the Brits have had enough..." (Rob Carson, 05:30)

• On Lawfare & the Epstein Files:

  • "The shame falls on every single person that enabled it. The shame falls on every single person that took money to continue it." (Marjorie Taylor Greene, 10:08)
  • "When you fly on The Lolita Express 27 times like... Bill Clinton, then maybe, maybe there's a little there there." (Rob Carson, 11:53)
  • "It's not just about the bill. This is about justice." (Epstein victim’s brother, 13:11)

• On Anti-Drug Action:

  • "This is what I was praying for, that Donald Trump would use our special forces and whatever is necessary to take these bastards out." (Rob Carson, 16:39)
  • "You declare them terrorists, then you go after them as terrorists. They should do the same thing with antifa. 100%." (Rob Carson, 18:23)

• On Organ Harvesting & Autocratic Ambitions:

  • "God help us if Putin or Kim Jong Un live too much longer. But, you know, I don't think that that will happen... Kim Jong Un has a lot of problems, medical problems right now and all the organs in the world are not going to save him." (Gordon Chang, 21:43)

• On the Geopolitics of Fentanyl:

  • "Any number above zero is completely unacceptable because this is the Chinese state... Every container that leaves China is inspected by officials. Chinese state banks launder the proceeds. Chinese owned TikTok promotes illicit drug use in the US and some of the fentanyl producers are state owned." (Gordon Chang, 34:07)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:02-03:26]: Opening theme, music references, and early banter
• [03:26-08:58]: Call with Shane (Australia) — globalism, culture, and migration
• [09:00-15:16]: Deep dive—Epstein files, justice, and survivor advocacy
• [15:16-19:49]: Venezuela—US military actions, Maduro, and drug cartels
• [20:57-35:12]: Gordon Chang interview—international analysis: China/Russia/North Korea/India, organ harvesting, narrative battlegrounds, and Venezuela drug trade links

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Rob Carson's Signature Tone

Rob deploys a blend of humor, bluntness, patriotic fervor, and cultural references throughout the show—often mixing lighthearted asides with sharp-edged analysis and open listener engagement.

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Summary for the Uninitiated

This episode serves up the Rob Carson Show at its most wide-ranging: hot takes on US and global politics, cultural anxieties, government (and globalist) overreach, and breaking news. Listeners are taken from local flag-fights in Australia to the halls of Congress, out onto the Caribbean Sea with US special forces, and finally into high-level geopolitics with Gordon Chang’s blunt and authoritative analysis. It’s equal parts cathartic rant, dark comedy, and urgent state-of-the-world address.

If you missed it…

• You missed a blend of headline-skewering, impassioned calls for accountability, and “deep state” plotting, leavened with laughs and robust debate—plus a rare, unsparing look at the dark underbelly of global power games.
• The episode is especially valuable for those following the Epstein case fallout, US foreign policy in the Americas, or the ongoing struggle with China’s ambitions.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Marco Rubio]

Hold it now.

[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the worldwide web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show, our number two of this broadcast. On the 3rd of September. Already it was the 3rd of September. A day I'll always remember. Yes, I will. That was the day my daddy died. Yeah, I know, I know. It's a song. And then there's the song Earth, Wind and Fires, you know, September. But that was Papa Was a Rolling Stone by the Temptations. I have a lot of worthless knowledge in my head, by the way, from 20 plus years of music radio. It was the 3rd of September. That's a great song. Papa was a rolling stone Wherever he laid his hat was his home and when he died all he left us was alone. Okay, so just a couple things before we dive back into the action. Hot mic catches Putin discussing how to achieve immortality with President Xi and Kim Jong Un. This is like, this is like Dr. Evil in the basement of the volcano, you know? Russian despot Vladimir Putin caught rambling about immortality during a summit with Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un. Putin, who was in Beijing with North Korean leader and dozens of world leaders were talking about it. And apparently she told Putin via translator, earlier, people rarely lived to 70, but these days, 70, you're still a child. Putin then responded, human organs can be continuously transplanted. God almighty. Are you listening to this? This is just a casual conversation. The longer you live, the younger you can become and you can even achieve immortality. And then Xi said, predictions are this century, there is also a chance of living to 150. Now you have to look at the. The body count between these three countries is in the hundreds of millions of their own citizens. And. And China actually harvest organs from political prisoners. So, yeah, this is what they talk about. Oh, my God. Wow. Nothing to see here. We'll we'll have to talk about this with Gordon Chang at the bottom of the hour. I'm thinking I hear that my buddy Shane from Australia is on the newsmax hotline. Shane, how you doing brother?

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

Always my best mate. I love your program and I love you mate and I love.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you.

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

I love you guys because you're real. You're real Americans we'd be fighting next to in two world wars, mate.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

Never forget that.

[Rob Carson]

Are things getting better down there from the bad guano insanity of the, of the COVID bull crap that your country went through? Are things starting to settle down a little bit?

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

Oh, we're like Britain, we're going through major problems from globalists.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

If you look at the pictures of the meeting in China, you'll see a bloke named Dan Andrews in the side there. He's one of our ex premiers of my state who actually destroyed this country. They've been planted many years ago and they've been doing incredible destructive things to our country.

[Rob Carson]

I heard a lot of Australians are buying guns. I hear a lot of Australians are trying to get guns now after they had them essentially confiscated. What's going on with that?

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

It was all a set up many years ago. Globalists have taken all our resources, Rob and that's just the straight truth from you, mate. What you'll get from an Australian is just the basic truth without too much crap, mate. But when it comes down to it, if we're, we're just people who just want to make a better world for the rest of the world not to have all the vision and all this fragmentation And I talked to a girl in Ukraine and the poor love, she's in Kiev and she's been blown the hell out of and you know, I just say to both sides would you bloody stop and bloody be, you know, what could you say? Responsible for future generations to learn the right skill. A parent supposed to teach the right skills, Rob and when a child, these beautiful children I'm trying to educate because as you know I look at generational social, psychological conditioning for many years now and I look at the byproducts of the problems when you run by as a satellite state and now our country's falling apart, the roads are falling apart, millions of migrants coming in from countries that are not really assimilating. They're very unfriendly, a lot of them but some are good. I'm not saying all of them but generally it's a push by the globalists.

[Rob Carson]

They did the same damn thing, Shane. They did the same damn thing in Great Britain and now the Brits have had enough. They've had enough. They're tired of not being able to hang the Union Jack without getting ready. They're hanging up flags everywhere. They're fighting back against the radical Islamic horde in that country. And I believe, and I said this when, when Trump was elected, that this movement would spread around the world that would, you know, go back against the globalists, against what they did to us. It's that equal and opposite reaction we're experiencing the reaction to the action of evil and I think it will eventually spread to Australia. You know, you still are in the fits and throws of it.

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

Oh no, we are the, I would say the number one country that's being used by the globalists to actually, I suppose make the model for the next, you know, the 15 minute cities and all the other things that they're trying to do. I'll tell you a quick story.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

Where I live is called the Mornington Peninsula. Now just recently we've got Covid foreign forces within our social system. Both state, local governments and federal governments are totally saturated by these globalists. And basically at our council there was a tischel sort of unnamed very thing all of a sudden decided at a kindergarten flyer to take away the Australian flag and put the gay pride flag and the aboriginal flag which is a disguise for supposedly good aboriginal rights. It's a disguise by the globalists to take land titles away in this.

[Rob Carson]

Of course, of course, of course it is.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Of course.

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

When the public and the councillors found out, they took the Australian flag away and replaced it on a flyer for a kindergarten. So that's grooming. And they put the gay pride and the aboriginal flag there. They all, you know, stood up and said no, that's not good enough because under our constitution which is being torn apart, you're not, you're not allowed to do that. So they did put the Australian flag back. But Rob, I want you to focus. That is just a form of testing the waters.

[Rob Carson]

Of course it is.

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

You know, and I thought, I call that just straight up grooming by in entrenched pedophiles. The globalists seem to use pedophilia and different things.

[Rob Carson]

We're a little off topic here, Shane. I do believe that, I do believe that, that it will spread to Canada eventually. And I think this, this Trump election in 2000, the last year, I should say on November 5th is going to, it was the fall of the Berlin Wall. I think. What, what Australia, you're right now in your pre Trump election state. You haven't gotten someone like Donald Trump, but I think it will come eventually to Australia. Other else, my friend?

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

No, just I would like people to remember the history and our history with the Americans and the, you know, the Australians was pretty profound. In two world wars, we did die, brother.

[Rob Carson]

I've always said I've always had great deal of pride in Australia. You guys are just like us run rugged individuals. And I was very sad to see the, you know, your country lurch left. And it was very, very sad to see. But I believe that there's an underlying current in Australia. People like you are sick and damn tired of it. Are going to turn it around. How's that sound?

[Shane (Australian Caller)]

Well, at the end of the day, too, Rob, we'll just bow to God, mate. And you only get to God through Jesus Christ's teaching. And I'm a bit of a rough Christian, but at the end of the day when it's pretty confusing, I think Jesus Christ is the one to pray for to give us help, mate, because the whole world seems to be going nuts and I want a better world for the children.

[Rob Carson]

Do me a favor. Here's what I did. Here's what I did to try to get people through the last year with these persecutions of Donald Trump. Overwhelmed them with joy and, and patriotism. And do your level best. Keep your chin up, brother, because things will get better. Shane, God bless you. We'll talk again soon. Always good now. You too, bro. YouTube. I'll make it down there eventually when you finally get a conservative in office. And I'll come down there for sure fo show. I'd love to. I'd love to go to Australia. And I was just talking with Brian, my producer at WCBM in Baltimore. He's like, everybody wants to go Australia. They just don't have to fly half or any more than halfway around the world to get there. Because if I could just be myself to Australia, I'd go visit Australia. I think it'd be a lot of fun. But that doesn't happen. Let's move on. Let's move on. Okay, so I want to mention the Republicans have released 33 thousands of pages of the Epstein files to move to avoid controversial vote to force Trump to hand over documents. So the Republicans have released another 34,000 pages of documents. This is Marjorie Taylor Greene. This morning on Newsmax, the shame falls.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Every single person that coldly turned a blind eye to their abuse. The shame falls on every single person that enabled it. The shame falls on every single person that took money to continue it. And the shame falls on the people in power over the past several decades that protected the monster Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal that continued a nightmare.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Now, you know, Donald Trump, the, the Democrat Party, they'll do anything to distract from anything good from Donald Trump and they'll say, oh, the reason why Donald Trump is, you know, sent the national guard into Washington, D.C. and ended the crime officially and made it one of the safest cities in America was because he was distracting from the Epstein files, which is, of course, just stupid, honestly. It's just, it's kind of stupid. But, but clearly, if there was something there, by the way, if there was something there, then, then Joe Biden or whoever was pulling Joe Biden strings would have released it if it would have incriminated Donald Trump. So there's no there there. The Democrat Party is trying to, or the Republican Party, I should say, is trying to release these files and they're also trying to protect the names of the innocent. That's one of the things that they're trying to do. So they're trying to release this without doing more damage to those who've been victimized. That's what is happening. But even old Dana Bash on CNN talked about how the Democrats could have released all of this stuff, but there's no there there. The Democrats are doing this. Maybe if all of them are going to vote for it because it makes Republicans uncomfortable. I don't think there is a Democrat who is desperate to see these Epstein files. They had time during the Biden years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why, why didn't you release them when Joe Biden was the president? It's kind of interesting, right? You've, you've got, you know, oh, Jeffrey Epstein had a picture with Donald Trump. Well, so did the Pope. So did Pope John Paul ii. Yeah, yeah. He had a lot of pictures taken with a lot of famous people. And Donald Trump has had his picture taken with so many people, you don't even, you can't even begin to imagine. So, so a picture is not a big deal when you fly on The Lolita Express 27 times like, like Joe, or I should say Bill Clinton, then maybe, maybe there's a little there there. And by the way, Hillary is supposed to be testifying with regard to the Epstein files coming up here. So let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. It is a Rob Carson show. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on the Epstein file release. Today, survivors of his crimes are meeting with Lawmakers on Capitol Hill this afternoon. The survivors will also meet with House oversight investigators, a source familiar with the matter told the Daily Mail. This is a story from the Daily Mail. On Wednesday, the survivors will hold a press conference. Here's a little bit of that. This is the brother of Epstein victim Virginia Jeffrey, I believe that's pronounced correctly. Talking about a release of all the files.

[Brother of Epstein Victim]

And above all, the brave survivors who have entrusted us with the privilege of speaking today on behalf of Virginia Robert Jew Freight as her family. We are here today because we support H.Res581, the Epstein files Transparency act in its entirety. But as much as this bill is about shining a light on truth, it's not just about the bill. This is about justice.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it is. It is. I agree. People got to be held accountable. The people who partook in this trafficking of children. We had a president who allowed the trafficking of 300,000 children across the southern border, released them into homes, you know, frequently, many of them into homes with the sponsors that had them invented. So I'm thinking the Democrat Party's kind of been leaning into that for a while. Former President Bill Clinton, his wife Hillary have been subpoenaed to sit for interviews with the panel in October. Further, Comey sent a letter to the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson on Sunday requesting documents related to the late sex offender. And again, you know, that's, that's all we really have on it today. That's a lot of, you know, and I saw a couple of headlines about what's in it, you know, these files, naked photos of Joe Hillane Maxwell, you know, describe his home, you know, he had lots of nude images of girls all over his walls and massage tables. Honestly, what a freaking freak. What a, what a freak. My God. Honestly, honestly, I do hope that those who indulged Jeffrey Epstein's pedophilia and partook in it are found and, and held accountable. So there you go. That's all, that's all I'm going to say about that. That's today. Hey, did you hear, did you hear about this? A bunch of trend. A Ragua members died of an ammunition overdose. It was, it was unbelievable. They're out on a boat, they were just enjoying themselves. And Donald Trump decided to send in some, some missiles, I guess, and blow that sucker up.

[Unnamed Military Official]

When you come out and when you leave the room, you'll see that we just over the last few minutes literally shot out a boat, a drug carrying boat, a lot of drugs in that boat. And you'll be seeing that. And you'll be reading about that. It just happened moments ago. And our great general, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who has been so incredible, including what took place in Iran, knocking out potential nuclear power for a long time to come. I think within a month they would have had it. We didn't do what we did, but he gave us a little bit of a briefing and you'll see. And there's more.

[Rob Carson]

But anyway. Venezuela's dictator threatens retaliation against Trump as the US deploys warships to the Caribbean. Aims 1200 missiles. So you got Maduro. Maduro's not gonna be around much longer. He's not gonna be in charge much longer. We've got a bounty on him of $50 million. He is a criminal cartel dictator in in Venezuela. And he threatened to declare a Republican arms of attack by forces the United States government recently deployed near his country to the Caribbean. Maduro said his country was at maximum preparedness, sure as he spoke during a conference Monday in Caracas. Just as the United States prepared to boost its maritime presence in the waters off Venezuela. United States has already ordered the deployment of spy planes, a warship, even a submarine to the southern Caribbean Sea to address the growing threat posed by the drug cartels. It's all over. This is what I was praying for, that Donald Trump would use our special forces and whatever is necessary to take these bastards out. And you know what? All that Joe Biden had to do to do the same thing is something. Is something. Instead, he left a wake of bodies, hundreds of thousand deep with fentanyl poisoning. So he didn't do a damn thing, didn't run a psa. This is your brain on fentanyl. Not a damn thing. Didn't do anything about child sex trafficking. Why? Why, why didn't he do anything? Why didn't the Democrat Party do anything? In the face of this, in the face of a maximum military pressure, we have declared maximum preparedness for defense of Venezuela. Maduro said of the US deployment, which he characterizes an extravagant, unjustifiable, immoral and absolutely criminal and bloody threat. You know what Donald Trump likes to do with surgical strikes, taking out, you know, terrorists and whatnot. I'd be sleeping one one eye open if I was you there, Mr. Maduro. This is. Oh, Marco. Marco Rubio talking about Maduro.

[Marco Rubio]

The president is going to be on offense against drug cartels and drug trafficking in the United States. It destabilizes not just the country, but the entire Caribbean basin. These particular drugs are probably headed to Trinidad or some other country in the Caribbean, at which point they just contribute to the instability these countries are facing. So the President has been very clear that he's going to use the full power of America.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah. And then the bleep's going to end. It's going to end. Do you see that boat? They're just cruising along there and all sudden, boom, you're done. You're done. That's the United States military. This is what I was hoping for, that we'd paint targets with Special Forces and bomb the snot out of them. And it looks like we're doing it and it's going to end. You know, you declare them terrorists, then you go after them as terrorists. They should do the same thing with antifa. 100%, by the way. 100%. This is. Let's see here. I've got a Jim Hansen, he's a former Special Forces commando, talking about.

[Jim Hansen (Former Special Forces Commando)]

I don't think anything's off the table. And I think anybody who thought that when President Trump designated the drug cartels as terrorists, he was kidding, can take a look at that oil slick in the Caribbean Sea and see what they found out. This is a message to the cartels and to state leaders who coddle them and allow them to operate that that's no longer a free ride to make money bringing death into the United States. It's fun for Maduro and other people to say, oh, we've got Marines, we've got IEDs, we've got. They don't have anything that can stand up to the military might of the United States.

[Rob Carson]

No, they don't. No.

[Jim Hansen (Former Special Forces Commando)]

And they're pretty quickly going to find out that we're not going to put up with them making billions of dollars doing human trafficking and killing our own citizens without a very robust response.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. By the way, the Venezuelan Cartel De La Sol, or Cartel of the Suns, explained that the cartels were run by the President of Venezuela along with other leaders in his staff. And he's not going to be around much longer either some sort capture an extradition or boom. Hopefully I'm leaning into the boom because honestly, he's done enough to destroy that country. Then, of course, he stole the election too. And he got a little bit of help from usa. Yeah, it happened. It happened. You know, Democrats wanted him in power. They did not want a conservative in power down there. That's what they do. They did the same thing in Brazil. Coming up, we're talking to Gordon Chang, the Gordon Chang on the other side of this break. And this is the Rob Carson Show. It is Rob Carson show, as promised. Joining US on the Newsmax hotline, Gordon G. Chang at Gordon G. Chang on Twitter, author of Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America and also the coming collapse of China and whatnot. He joins us now. How are you doing, sir?

[Gordon G. Chang]

I'm fine, Robin, thank you so much.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely. I saw something very, very concerning. It was a hot mic picked up Putin talking with Xi and Kim Jong Un about how to live to be 150 and saying that it's possible, possible achieving mortality, immortality with organ transplants and other advanced medical procedures alongside Kim Jong Un. Now, China is known for organ harvesting of its political prisoners. And this just sounded like a cabal of three very people and their, you know, off mic comments. I thought it was, it was terribly troubling. What'd you think?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yes, and you're right, you know, China has been organ harvesting and it's been the mass murder and it's been doing so for decades. And there's no doubt about it by now because there is so much evidence in that direction, you know, God help us if Putin or Kim Jong Un live too much longer. But, you know, I don't think that that will happen. Kim Jong Un has a lot of problems, medical problems right now, and all the organs in the world are not going to save him. So he don't have to worry about Putin. Maybe.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. But you're looking at, I've heard Kim Jong Un, his daughter, who is equally despotic, is, is lining up to take over. But China is incre, basically on shaky economic grounds. That has to impact what they were able to give to North Korea and that would in turn possibly make that regime a little less stable. Obviously with North Korea, you have a population that is completely, you know, brainwashed, completely controlled, would be completely without a rudder, without someone telling them what to do. So how do you suppose China's weakness is impacting Kim Jong Un as he is physically ill?

[Gordon G. Chang]

That's a great question. The North Korean economy last year increased by 3.7%, which is pretty good for North Korea. That's according to the authoritative bank of Korea, which is the South Korean Central Bank. That number might be a little bit high, but it's not too surprising because we know that Kim Jong Un has sold a lot of artillery shells and short range ballistic missiles to Russia for use in the war, as well as providing soldiers, at least 12,800 of their finest troops, 30,000 more on the way according to reports, plus an additional corps of engineers and also just ordinary workers. North Korea makes a lot of money from that. So I shouldn't. You know, we shouldn't be too surprised that North Korea is doing pretty well. Nonetheless, Kim Jong Un is in Beijing at this moment because he wants more Chinese support. And the reason is he wants to distance himself a little bit from the Russians because he's very close to them right now. And North Korean policy over the course of decades has been to balance Moscow and Beijing.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Now, I saw that there was a big military parade, a show of force in Beijing. Donald Trump was asked about it yesterday. And Donald Trump kind of shrugged it off, saying China needs us more than they need. We need them, which is true. Do I expect some sort of triad of nations to attack the United States at this point? No, I don't. Not, not. Wouldn't. You know, America's becoming, even every day, more in a position of strength worldwide. But what do suppose that this was all about, this meeting with these three individuals?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Well, they're trying to show the world that they form a durable partnership and that they are an alternative to the United States and the West. And this whole military parade is, first of all to show the Chinese people that the Communist Party is strong, but also to show the world that China is dominant and the United States is not. This was really important information warfare. We're Americans, so we don't think information warfare is important, but it is. And the Chinese, at least for the moment, are doing very well with it, especially because we have decided to disarm by basically decimating Voice of America, but also more important, Radio Free Asia. So this is not a good story for us. The one thing that is good, though, is that President Trump can change the narrative overnight by doing something to put China in its place. But until he does that, the Chinese narrative is going to be the one that's going to resonate around the world. And so I hope President Trump reaches out and teaches Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un who's boss.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, when you look at the economic power of the United States and its allies versus this triad of despotic regimes, I don't think they stand a whole lot of chance economically. This kind of sounds. This kind of sounds like Xi trying to shore up support where he's already weakened massively with the show of it kind of whipping it out, you know? You know what I'm saying? Kind of whipping it out to his citizenry to make him feel like he's more powerful than. And China's in a much more powerful position than it actually is.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Absolutely. That's absolutely right, Rob. The Russian economy is Fragile. You know, people have all sorts of predictions of when it's going to fail. I don't know. But the point is, it is not doing well. China is economy, which is about zero growth, maybe a little bit above, maybe a little bit below, probably contracting because the price data shows the countries in deflation, and there are a lot of signs showing a weakening economy. So. Yeah. And the United States is doing very well. We had a stellar third second quarter of this year, and I think we're going to continue to do well. Certainly we're going to. We're doing better than both China and Russia and even North Korea, which of course, is a fragile economy even in the best of times.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Now, where does India play a part in all of this? Because I saw Modi holding hands with Xi Jinping the other day, and. And I always thought, you know, I thought India were the guys wearing white hats in the. In the commies were the ones wearing the black hats. But it seems like they were pretty chummy. What's going on with the relationship with India and China and Russia?

[Gordon G. Chang]

That's a great question. What's going on is India is trying to show Donald Trump that there is an alternative. India right now is furious at the United States. First of all, Trump is tilted towards Pakistan, which I think is misguided. We shouldn't be doing that. But also, and here we go back to this information warfare campaign. We imposed 25% tariffs, additional 25% tariffs on India for purchasing Russian crude. That was the announcement on August 6th.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Gordon G. Chang]

We did not impose an additional 25% on China, but China buys more Russian crude than India. And India is saying that these tariffs are unjustified. They're wrong on that. They are justified. But India does have a point, and this is the reason why they're furious, is that this is unfair. If we're going to put the 25% tariffs on India, we should be putting them on China. And then China turns around and says to the world, donald Trump's afraid of us because he won't put the 25% tariffs on us. It shows that he's submissive to China. Now, Trump doesn't think he's submissive to China. Trump is more powerful than China. But that's the narrative, and that's why Trump has to show the world that the Chinese are not as strong as they appear. Because until he does that, the Chinese narrative is the one that's dominating the world right now. Trump can change that in a moment, anytime he wants, and he should do it all right.

[Rob Carson]

So Gordon Jenk, can you hold on for another segment because I want to get into what what happened yesterday with the, the drug carrying boat off of Venezuela being blown out of the water, Venezuela's relationship with China and now that the Donald Trump is going after after fentanyl and all of that stuff. So can you hold on for the next break, my friend?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Absolutely.

[Rob Carson]

All right, Excellent. More from Gordon Chang coming over the Rob Carson Show. Back in a minute. More with Gordon Chang coming up in one moment. But you know we've got a national debt of about $37 trillion. What do you suppose that's doing for the value of the dollar? What do you suppose spending all that money, printing all that money is due to the dollar which make it go into the toilet? Obviously. Obviously gold not doing that. Actually it's blowing up 31% thus far this year, 45% since last year. Whether as a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability or just a sensible div. Birch Gold believes every American should own physical gold. And now until September 30th, if you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 in free metals on qualifying purchases. How cool would that be? To claim eligibility, start the process, request an info kit. Just text my name, Rob 298-9898. Okay. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into gold and you can still be eligible for a rebate in free metals up to $10,000. But you got until the 30th of this month. So make right now the time you step up and buy gold. Take advantage of this Rebate up to $10,000. Text my name, Rob to 989898. Claim your eligibility, get your free info kit. Text Rob to 989898 for birch gold. Gordon Chang, A complicated relationship that I guess Venezuela has with, with China. Venezuela is a big essentially a drug kingdom and fentanyl comes out of there. Donald Trump is going after them hard and fast. Yesterday he caused 11 trend gang members to overdose on ammunition. And obviously that's going to cause the fentanyl floods coming across the southern border to slow to a drip. How's this going to impact China and what is China's relationship with Venezuela?

[Gordon G. Chang]

China is a supporter for Venezuela. They buy I think 90% of Venezuela's exports of crude. And there's a lot of been rhetorical support in the last week for Venezuela against the United States by the Chinese state and party propaganda machines. This taking out of the Drug boat was great diplomacy. This is President Trump using small amounts of violence to achieve great results. He did this, for instance, with his missile strike on Syria in April 2017 that pushed the Chinese back. Remember, this was at Mar A Lago where Xi Jinping just sort of choked when President Trump announced that that was over. That the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake. Also, we saw it with taking out Soleimani in the first half, and right now we're going to see it with Maduro, the Venezuelan president dictator. So this is really good and effective use of American force. And it is a hallmark of President Trump that he knows when to use force and more important, he knows when not to use it.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you know, the. With Soleimani, he, you know, took him out on an airport as a pinpoint strike. He has also talked about some of these other leaders. He said that, you know, I know where you live essentially, and got them to come to the table. You got to kind of wonder if Maduro, now that, you know, Trin Nicaragua is a terrorist organization and Maduro's close ties with it and a $50 million bounty on Maduro's head, you got to imagine he's sleeping with one eye open.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yeah, of course. And he's taken on the United States and that's not usually a good thing, especially when the president is guy named Donald John Trump.

[Rob Carson]

It's not going to end up.

[Gordon G. Chang]

So Maduro right now is in a world of hurt. I mean, the Chinese can give him rhetorical support, but they really can't do anything. They can't use muscle. And this is going to be very bad for Venezuela.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, I think that Maduro is teetering. He stole the election. 70% of the vote went to the conservative opposition. So he's teetering. And I don't even care either way. Either he falls or Donald Trump sends people into commando, put a hood on his head and remove him or just vaporize him. They did with Soleimani. Either one, he's going to have to go and it'll send allowance. What does China get out of the fentanyl trade? I mean, it can't be that big a deal monetarily. It's more of a kind of a military maneuver to harm America, particularly young people.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yeah, it's to weaken the United States. China uses every point of contact to take us down, and one of them is fentanyl. I mean, last year it was like 48,000 young Americans. Year before that it was about 72,000. So this is a substantial number of people. Yeah, I'M glad the trend is now down. But any number above zero is completely unacceptable because this is the Chinese state. This is not Chinese gangs. This is. Well, it's Chinese gangs backed by the Chinese state who are in the fentanyl trade. And we know that the regime is fully a participant in this. Diplomats support it. Every container that leaves China is inspected by officials. Chinese state banks launder the proceeds. Chinese owned TikTok promotes illicit drug use in the US and some of the fentanyl producers are state owned and in a total surveillance state. You know, these Chinese gangs, they operate with the knowledge and the approval of the Communist Party.

[Rob Carson]

Now, now you've been talking for years about the coming collapse of China. Nobody said it was going to be an overnight thing, did they, Gord?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Well, I've been sort of early on the prediction, but we're seeing problems right now in China that are extremely serious and we don't know if the party can get beyond this.

[Rob Carson]

Well, there's. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Gordon G. Chang]

And it's important for the rest of the world not to come to the rescue of China because American presidents have done that three times in the past. So it's important that we do not do that a fourth time.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, absolutely. 100%. Gordon Chang, always a joy talking to you my friend. Where can people find all of your glorious work? I know you're at Gordon G. Chang on Twitter or anywhere else you'd see. Like to, to tell everybody?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yeah, I archive all my articles for free at www.gordon c h a n g dot com.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I hope that we will raise a glass of something to the demise of China sometime as I live here in Washington D.C. gordon Chang, have a glorious rest of your week. Okay, bud.

[Gordon G. Chang]

And you too. And stay safe. Rob.

[Rob Carson]

Of course, of course, of course. Well, we're living a much safer community now thanks to Donald Trump. Let's go ahead and take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. It is Rob Carson show headline from Newsmax. Newsmax has filed a lawsuit against Fox News. It's an antitrust case, alleges major violations and yeah, yeah, this happens in, in media when you start nipping at the heels of the big dog. Newsmax Broadcasting has filed a major federal antitrust lawsuit against Fox Corporation. Fox News Network accuses Fox of engaging in extensive and unlawful campaign to block competition in the market for right leaning pay television news, including of course, Newsmax. The, the complaint alleges Fox has abused its dominance in the right leaning pay TV news market for years by coercing distributors into unfair carriage agreements designed to exclude or marginalize competitors like Newsmax. So there you go. Fox leverages its market power to impose restrictions that harm consumers, stifle competition, drive up cost across the Pay Echo system. Fox has allegedly pressured its guests not to appear on Newsmax. That's not a big surprise. As well as run online smear campaigns and hired private investigators targeting Newsmax executives. Really? Wow. The complaint absurd that Fox has deliberately blocked Newsmax growth in critical distribution platforms like Hulu Sling, Fubo and other platforms, senior executives and talent at at Fox saw Newsmax as a competitive threat following the 2020 election. And that's what Newsmax blew the hell up. That's what Newsmax became a household word. I'd like to say it was because of me but you know, I mean maybe a little. Text emails and memoranda show Fox leaders acknowledging that Newsmax growing audience could quote drastically change the landscape of cable news. Including then Fox host Tucker Carlson warning that an alternative like Newsmax could be devastating to us. He doesn't work there anymore. Fox News president Jay Wallace told CEO Suzanne Scott that Fox was on a warf footing over Newsmax rise. We got them riled up, didn't we? We got them riled up. It is interesting when I, when I started at Newsmax a little over five years ago, Newsmax did not have the, the predominant position that it does and 2020 really did it when we realized that Fox was not. Was not particularly honest with regard to the 2020 election and election night coverage by Brett Baier. Yeah, I haven't let that go Brett Bear. That's one of the reasons I don't watch your show. So millions of right leaning viewers who been denied access to Newsmax on affordable basic packages leaving Fox as the only viable option. We will see how this progresses. If Newsmax reveals Fox damages could be tripled under federal law. An outcome that would send a powerful message to any company that thinks it can monopolize public discourse. And honestly after all of the nonsense from the mainstream level media that Fox would do such a thing is a little bit hard to swallow, you know what I'm saying? But Newsmax has been on the Ascension. Continues to be on the Ascension. Make sure to watch Newsmax. If you would get a Newsmax plus membership Newsmaxplus.com you can see it on YouTube TV 349 on satellite. I can go on and on but, but it's a, it's a great network and, and I think even more unfiltered than Fox could or would ever be with hosts like Carl Higbee and Rob Schmidt and whatnot. Let's take a break and come back. Final hour of the Rob Carson show is right ahead. I wouldn't go anywhere.

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