Fauci’s Pandemic Paper Trail

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Episode: “Fauci’s Pandemic Paper Trail”
Date: August 11, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Radio)
Featured Guests: Senator Ron Johnson, Brigadier General Blaine Holt, Frances Gill

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Overview

In this episode, Rob Carson dives deep into the newly released evidence and communications revealing Dr. Anthony Fauci’s knowledge of potential COVID-19 vaccine risks, particularly for pregnant women. The episode, combining biting humor with impassioned commentary and guest analysis, highlights controversy over vaccine safety, government transparency, and ongoing political battles in America. The episode also explores broader topics like political lawfare against Donald Trump, the ideological makeup of progressive groups, and global hot spots such as Iran and Venezuela.

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Key Topics & Segments

1. Fauci’s Pandemic Paper Trail: Revealed (01:00 - 12:53)

• Main Theme: Carson discusses new text messages showing Dr. Anthony Fauci, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, and Dr. Vivek Murthy privately communicated serious concerns about COVID-19 mRNA vaccines’ impact on pregnant women, including risk of miscarriage.

• New Leaks:

  • In January 2021, Fauci raised concerns about fever post-second dose and "theoretical risk of miscarriage in the first trimester" in private, contradicting public reassurances.
  • "This is a horror. This man every day opened his diary notations with how many people died, how many people became infected and then how famous it was making him." — Rob Carson [03:18]

• Sen. Ron Johnson’s Revelations (04:21)

  • Johnson criticizes CDC's reporting, arguing their miscarriage data (12.6%) was misleading because the vast majority of women in their study received the vaccine in the third trimester, outside the risk period for miscarriage.
  • "A miscarriage or a spontaneous abortion is defined as anything up to 20 weeks. So the relevant denominator should have been 140 miscarriages divided by 127 [not 827], which puts a miscarriage rate at 82%." — Sen. Ron Johnson [06:16]
  • Carson, shocked, repeats, "Out of 800, some 104 spontaneous abortion, baby is born dead… 82% miscarriage rate for pregnant women taking the COVID shot." [06:31]

• Media and Government Messaging

  • Clips are played of mainstream news anchors and public health officials describing the vaccines as "perfectly safe for pregnancy" and effective, which Carson and guests refute.
  • "Everything they said was wrong. And now we know that a lot of women whose dream it was to have a baby, it was ended when they took the vaccine." — Rob Carson [10:39]

• Transparency & Responsibility

  • Dr. Jay Bhattacharya: "Tony Fauci was out of his lane... He owed the American public some transparency regarding his honest thoughts." [11:53]

Notable Quotes

• “If you had a miscarriage after the vaccine, you know that, yeah, it was the vaccine. The real good chance it was a vaccine—about 80% of the time.” — Rob Carson [01:53]
• "Senator Ron Johnson giving you the real statistics and they are a horror." — Rob Carson [04:21]
• “We used to be the good guys... There has to be a baptism by fire of these agencies so rotten and corrupt to the core.” — Rob Carson [10:46]

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2. Media Coverage and Big Pharma Influence (12:33 - 14:11)

• Pharma Sponsorship:

  • Carson and Blaine Holt highlight the sheer scale of Pfizer’s presence in news sponsorships and allege this influenced newsrooms to avoid negative vaccine stories.
  • Example parody: “CBS Healthwatch. Sponsored by Pfizer. Anderson Cooper 360. Brought to you by Pfizer.” — Rob Carson & Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [12:33]

• Suppression of Adverse Data:

  • Carson asserts: “Yeah, avoid the story. Cover it up. That’s what they did.” [12:53]

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3. Political Lawfare Against Trump (14:11 - 18:33)

• Coordinated AG Action:

  • Carson lays out how at least 22 Democrat attorneys general coordinated legal tactics to remove Trump from ballots and harass his administration.
  • “That’s why Trump voters, MAGA supporters are not leaving Trump anytime soon... We are battle hardened, not battle weary.” — Rob Carson [14:35]

• Left’s Ideology and History:

  • The discussion links current Democratic socialism to failed historical models, emphasizing the uniqueness of American innovation.

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4. The New Progressive Left — Debt and “Downward Mobility” (18:33 - 20:28)

• DSA Member Profiled:
  • Frances Gill discusses the “downwardly mobile, disproportionately educated, disproportionately white” Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) demographic.
  • “I have a half a million dollars in student loan debt personally.” — Frances Gill [20:23]
  • Carson’s response: “Why would a university or a university system give her more money after $100,000? She will never recover from that.” [20:28]

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5. In-Depth Interview: Brigadier General Blaine Holt (22:12 - 38:28)

• Overview:

  • Holt, host of "Dangerous Intellectuals," joins to deepen the COVID medical manipulation discussion and global hot spots.

• COVID Accountability:

  • He and Carson agree the exposure of Fauci’s actions is important, but no real accountability has occurred yet.
  • “When is the theater going to be over? I mean, we’re exposing the truth, but they’re still walking around.” — Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [23:31]
  • Both compare the scandal in scale and evil to “Dr. Mengele” and the AZT/AIDS debacle, drawing historical parallels.

• Alternative Treatments, Big Cancer:

  • Holt praises doctors using off-label medicines (fenbendazole, ivermectin), sharing personal stories of cancer protocol success.
  • “The more we understand the truth about what's really been available to us, the more angry, the more white hot angry we are going to get.” — Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [26:46]

• Medical-Industrial Complex:

  • "It’s the whole industrial chain from cradle to grave... Otherwise we’re just going to be helpless little sheep victims." — Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [27:26]

• Suppression of Dissent:

  • Carson recounts needing to travel to Florida to get ivermectin for COVID and both detail institutional refusal of care for the unvaccinated.
  • “I went to a hospital... They said, 'You’re not vaxxed. Well, then get out of here. We don’t have to treat you.'” — Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [28:53]

• Psychology of Big Scandal:

  • “When you make the crime big enough, gross enough...good people just shut down. We’re like, I can’t handle it.” — Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [30:03]

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6. Geopolitics: Iran, Venezuela, Cuba (33:39 - 38:17)

• Iran:

  • Carson and Holt discuss Iran’s regime propaganda, President Trump’s negotiations, and upcoming revolutionary pressures in Iran.
  • Holt: “What it is, is an ill-fated attempt to communicate to the Iranian people that they're winning this war...but the President seized on the moment so brilliantly by flipping the script...” [33:39]

• Venezuela & Cuba Updates:

  • U.S. influence growing, Venezuelan government hit hard, and Cuba is "coming back into the world."
  • “Wouldn’t it be fun? I’m gonna go have a Cuban cigar with you on a beach in Havana, brother.” — Rob Carson [37:57]

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7. Satire & Parody: Michigan Senate Race (39:15 - 41:43)

• Song Parody:
  • Comic song targets Abdul El-Sayed, painting him as a socialist and referencing his comments on 9/11.
  • “You can take your habala habala and stick it up your abala abala. How’s that sound? Yeah, you’re going to get your rear end kicked, boy.” — Rob Carson [41:43]

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Notable Quotes (With Timestamps)

• “Fauci knew that the vaccine would cause massive, massive amounts of miscarriages.” — Rob Carson [01:53]
• “A miscarriage is defined as anything up to 20 weeks. So the relevant denominator should have been 140 miscarriages divided by 127, which puts a miscarriage rate at 82%.” — Sen. Ron Johnson [06:16]
• “Tony Fauci was out of his lane... He owed the American public some transparency regarding his honest thoughts.” — Dr. Jay Bhattacharya [11:53]
• “Yeah, avoid the story. Cover it up. That’s what they did.” — Rob Carson [12:53]
• "If you let them get away with this stuff, they will do it again." — Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [27:10]
• “The more angry, the more white hot angry we are going to get.” — Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt [26:46]
• “You can take your habala habala and stick it up your abala abala.” — Rob Carson [41:43]

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Closing Thoughts

Rob Carson’s episode is a rapid-fire blend of news, satire, and passionate argument—anchored by newly revealed internal discussions about vaccine safety. The show pulls no punches in its critique of government and media, weaving in guest expertise and humor to challenge mainstream narratives on COVID, political power plays, and more.
Listeners are left with a sense of outrage, skepticism toward officialdom, and a strong call to accountability and resistance.

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Caller or Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Caller or Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Frances Gill]

There you go.

[Rob Carson]

That's what I think. I, you know, I do. I think that's one of the reasons why I always say when it comes to broadcasting, connection is important as content.

Right.

Because everybody's got the same stuff generally, you know, talking about the same stuff. Going to be talking about, you know, the, the, the fact that Anthony Fauci knew that the vaccine would cause massive, massive amounts of miscarriages. And if you had a miscarriage after the vaccine, you know that, yeah, it was the vaccine. The real good chance it was a vaccine about 80% of the time. Oh, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable. But people trust me, I think, and people connect with me for a lot of reason. My personal story, you know, my damn good looks. That's probably number one on the list right there, right, ladies? And some of you guys, whatever, I don't care. Foushee discussed the COVID MNRNA vaccine concerns for pregnant women in a text chain released by the Senate committee. Dr. Foushee privately discussed concerns about COVID 19 MRNA vaccines for pregnant women in January 2021, including questions about fever. After a second dose and a theoretical risk of miscarriage during the first trimester to newly released text messages obtained from his government issued cell phone. This is a, this is a horror. This is a horror. This, this man every day opened his diary notations with how many people died, how many people became infected and then how famous it was making him. And now we know that he knew there was a very, very significant risk of pregnant women losing their babies, which is about the most profound loss that a woman can experience in her life. A miscarriage is such a tragedy, such an enormous, heartbreaking, heart wrenching personal tragedy for women. We can't relate to it. Men can't relate to it. I can't imagine gestating a baby inside of me. Feeling that being inside of me and then the baby dying and coming out of you. If you've been through it, I am so sorry. The exchange involved Foushee, the then Centers for Disease control and Prevention, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, Dr. Viveth Murphy Murphy fake alive who would later become former President Joe Biden Surgeon General. Foushee said because many people experience significant psych cytokine related symptoms and fever after the second dose, that reaction theoretically could be associated with miscarriage in the trimester. Here is Senator Ron Johnson giving you the real statistics and they are a

[Senator Ron Johnson]

horror since many people have significant cytokine storm and fever after the second dose. This theoretically could be associated with miscarriage in the first trimester. Now I've never heard public officials talk about significant cytokine storms after the second dose. And all we heard from public officials that this was perfectly safe for pregnancy. Let me go on a little bit more. In June of 2021, Tom Sheen Bakuro, he was the man in charge of safety surveillance systems for cdc, published a grossly misleading paper in the New England Journal of Medicine where they looked at 827 confirmed pregnancies, 700 of those pregnancies the women got their COVID injection in the third trimester.

[Rob Carson]

Listen, listen carefully to this because we became Communist China after 28 weeks.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Of those 827, 104 suffered a spontaneous abortion or a miscarriage.

[Rob Carson]

Out of 800, some 104 spontaneous abortion, baby is born dead.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

The problem with those stats is they took the 104 divided by 827 came up with a miscarriage rate of 12.6% which is about four times the rate of normal miscarriage rate on a confirmed pregnancy. But here's what they did that was so grossly misleading.

[Rob Carson]

You'd better sit down for this 700

[Senator Ron Johnson]

of those women got their injection in the third trimester. A miscarriage is or a spontaneous abortion is defined as anything up to 20 weeks. So the relevant denominator should have been 140 miscarriages divided by 127, which puts a miscarriage rate at 82%.

[Rob Carson]

I think we need to hear that again.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Teenage abortion is defined as anything up to 20 weeks. So the relevant denominator should have been 140 miscarriages divided by 127, which puts a miscarriage rate at 82.

[Rob Carson]

And you saw that Governor Mora Healey in Massachusetts signed a bill surrounded by a coven of witches yesterday. Yeah, that's what I call them, a coven of witches. In Massachusetts you can, you can abort a baby up to birth. Maura Healey is an evil person and her covenant witches are too. My God in heaven, what in the hell did you vote for in Massachusetts? Vivek Murthy initially asked whether there was any reason for to favor vaccination earlier or later in a pregnancy and whether officials had seen evidence of adverse outcomes among pregnant women who had already been vaccinated. Foushee, director of the nie, said there was no no data or theoretical theory theoretical reason to believe vaccination early in the pregnancy should be preferred over later vaccination. He also said concerns about MRNA vaccine could alter a person's genes were a misconception. Yeah, there was deformities and stuff too, by the way. Later that evening, however, Fauci mentioned the evidence of issues with the second shot for pregnant women. Walensky replied, definitely a good point, especially after dose 2. Murthy then wrote that he had been hearing concerns about the MRNA causing mutations in developing fetuses and said Foushee's point about the cytokine response after the second dose was a really good point. The World Health Organization recommended at the time advising against use of Moderna's vaccine in pregnant women because of limited data. Fauci emphasized that if officials had to weigh the potential risk of vaccination against the risk posed by COVID 19, which don't, which don't pose any risk to young, healthy people. He wrote that more than 10,000 pregnant women had already been vaccinated with no issues, reported the FDA Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices at American College of Obstetric Obstetrics and Gynecology. Gynecologists guidance allowed pregnant women to choose vaccination and that animal toxicology studies had not raised red flags other than all the deformities. Murphy Responded to the WHO W H O recommendation, surprised him and warned that a strong recommendation against vaccination based on a lack of data could be potentially quite damaging to public confidence among pregnant women. So we'll just lie about it and if they have a, you know, they have a miscarriage, you know, just kind of sweep it under the rug. Well, it's agreed. And said she would flag any issue for an upcoming paging Dr. Mengele. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. But you know the, the media, they gobbled it up, man. They gobbled it up.

[Senator Ron Johnson]

Fox News, Rupert Murdoch's company night after

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

night pedals these incredibly dangerous poisonous lies about the literally life saving coronavirus vaccine.

[Guest or Co-host]

We all know already, right, that if you get vaccinated that vaccine will basically prevent you from getting sick.

[Rob Carson]

No, it did not happen to life

[Guest or Co-host]

with COVID It will prevent you from having to go to the hospital.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, not at all.

[Guest or Co-host]

Hospital with COVID symptoms will prevent you from dying from COVID Great, good for you.

[Rob Carson]

Our data from the C today suggest, you know, that, that vaccinated people do

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

not carry the virus, don't get sick.

[Rob Carson]

By the way, I guess they pared down the number of vaccines kids need Yesterday from like 75 to I think 15 or 17. Yesterday. Donald Trump mentioned that yesterday our kids don't need 75 damned vaccines. This is nothing more than a giant money factory. I remember both of my kids, I think at age of three, there was one doctor visit, they had four friggin vaccines and it's only gotten worse ever since. And that it's not just in the clinical trials but it's also in real world data.

[Guest or Co-host]

Instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person to person, spreading and spreading, sickening some of them, but not all of them. And the ones that it doesn't sicken don't know they have it. And then they give it to even more people because they didn't recognize she

[Rob Carson]

still has a job. This wretched woman has a job.

[Guest or Co-host]

Nice. They were.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

If you're vaccinated, you don't have a risk. And that's the reason why we say it's as simple as black and white. You're vaccinated, you're safe, you're unvaccinated, you're at risk. Simple as that.

[Guest or Co-host]

Instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person, potentially mutating and becoming more virulent and

[Rob Carson]

drug resistant, everything they said was wrong. And now we know that a lot of women whose dream it was to have a baby it was ended when they took the vaccine. I got to tell you, we used to be the good guys. We used to be the guys with the whites hats and the Russians wear, the Chinese wear, the bad guys wearing the black hats. I mean this is why Donald Trump is the president right now. There has to be a baptism by fire. Not literal fire, but a baptism by fire of these agencies so rotten and corrupt to the core. Anthony Foushee successor Jay Bhattacharya who was by the way completely blacklisted during COVID blast voucher. You're covering 82% miscarriage rate for pregnant women taking the COVID shot. My God. I mean, I, I just, I can't even imagine. Here is Jay Bhattachary up saying Tony Foushee was way out of his lane.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

If you have reservations, shouldn't the public know those reservations?

[Jay Bhattacharya]

I mean, especially for something like the

[Rob Carson]

COVID shot as well Cain, by the

[Jay Bhattacharya]

way, which were brand new back then. I mean and Tony Foushee was, was a major figure in trying to get those, those coverage shots off, you know, past the finish line. He owed the American public some transparency regarding his honest thoughts. You know, generally it's the FDA that regulates products and checks for side effects and so on. The NIH develops the science that produces the new vaccines. There's a usually like a, you know, one lane and another lane. Tony Fauci in some sense was out of his lane are push and use that power to tell American one thing when he really thought another.

[Rob Carson]

You know, why the media didn't cover the vaccine injuries and all of that stuff. Let me give you an example.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

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[Rob Carson]

Now, what do you suppose that corporate network owners told their news directors when there was news coming out that the vaccines were dangerous but they were buying multimillion dollar advertising schedules? Yeah, avoid the story. Cover it up. That's what they did. That's what they did. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. This isn't the end of a fight. It's the start of One Lioness, the critically acclaimed original series from Taylor Sheridan returns August 2nd only on Paramount. Plus, it's the new season. Hidden networks, foreign operatives and personal betrayals collide while Joe walks the line between duty and family. Don't miss Lioness. Starring Zoe Saldana, Michael Kelly. With Morgan Freeman and Nicole Kidman. Now streaming on Paramount. Plus. The media and our friends. The Democrat Party kept saying we needed new legislation. We must have legislation to secure the border. Yeah. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president.

[Caller or Guest]

Duh.

[Rob Carson]

At least 22 Democrat attorneys general agreed to coordinate takedown of Trump. Keep the public in the dark going into 2024. So they all, all of these AGs were attacking Donald Trump before he even became the president. They wanted to take him down, they wanted him off the ballot, they wanted him in jail. Yeah. And guess what? You got your asses kicked up between your shoulders. How about that?

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you did. That's why Trump voters, MAGA supporters are not leaving Trump anytime soon. You can, you can say all you want, Tucker Carlson. Dear God, just go away, fool. You're a friggin fool. Just. I mean, blue blood country club imbecile. He's super smart though. At least 22 Democrat attorneys general signed an omnibus omnibus common interest agreement document before President Trump's 2024 election. The document outlined a lawfare campaign that would become known as a project for Federal Accountability. Now, they always come up these fancy names. Don't they always come with these fancy names? The document was signed three months before Joe Biden exited the 2024 race to make room for then President Kamala Harris. Look what, look what Donald Trump survived. Look what we survived. Look at what we. And we went through it, man. We felt. You felt it every day. I was talking about it every day. We've never been through anything like it before. Watching our candidate have to go sit in a courtroom with Letitia James snarling on a case that was made up, absolutely made up. And then go out and go on the campaign trail and get shot. Screw you guys, man. We are not going anywhere. We're not going anywhere, bro. You have no idea. We are battle hardened, not battle weary. The Project for Federal Accountability was later referenced in then New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy's budget in early 2025. According to Zach Blackburn of the National Journal Hotline, Murphy is a Democrat. So was his attorney, Matt Plotkin. Listen to this. Despite their attempts to downplay or even hide the agreement, their lawfare against President Trump's administration has been clear with the AG's having sued the administration 100 times since inauguration Day. They're stop the goodness. And they're still doing it. And then these district courts are doing it too. Over 100 suits. California Attorney General Rob Bunta has joined 82 of them. Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser is joined 75. Washington state Attorney General Nick Brown has joined 70. Arizona Attorney General Chris Mays has joined 46 of them. Bonto of California, for his part, defended his lawfare during a news conference Tuesday, alleging that the lawsuits he filed or participated in have all been apolitical. No, you're full of crap or not, stupid, you moron. Trump has no signs of slowing down, so we will continue to slew him. That's what he said. Maryland Attorney General Anthony Brown admitted to the Senator Square that he and other AG started planning lawfare as soon as it was clear that Donald Trump was going to get the nomination. Sucks to be you, don't it? We kicked your rear ends. We kicked your rear ends big time. So the, the Democrat socialists of America are the combination between Lord of the Flies and an animal farm. They are Marxists, Communists, no life experience whatsoever and they're trying to take over the greatest engine of individual and economic success in the history of mankind. Before America existed, London and Paris had existed for thousands of years and they were still using the streets as a latrine. One of the founding fathers of our country, Ben Franklin, discovered electricity. And then 120 years later, 120 years, 130 years later, we took flight. We invented the internal combustion engine, the automobile, the radio, the television, the smartphone, the jet engine, the rocket engine. In 200 years, while those civilizations existed for thousands with the same resources, same resources in the ground. Oil was still on the ground, all was still in the ground. But it took American innovation to create this. Otherwise we, it would probably be the same damn thing. Same damn thing. It was existing 225, 250 years ago. It is. Yeah. No, no, it's, it's true, it's true. Here is the Democrat co chair Megan Monroe or something like that. Anyway, here she admits what the, the DSA members are.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

What else did you learn about the ptb, Their goals, their theory of change and you know, any obstacles that they've kind of come across in their, their recent, you know, I would 10 to 15 year turn.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I mean Megan Romer is her name. She's a dour, obese cat lady.

[Caller or Guest]

They

[Frances Gill]

again, some of the similar struggles that we have, they, their membership, you know, they're open about, you know, it's like we have the problem. It's sort of, listen, downwardly mobile. Downwardly mobile, disproportionately educated compared to.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, means you got a high price degree.

[Frances Gill]

The general population disproportionately white disproportionately.

[Rob Carson]

You know, so similar white degreed in debt losers. There you go. They bought in all the nonsense. And to some degree, I feel sorry for them. I do, I really do. But you aren't going to take over the country and punish the successful people for your failures. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Oh, I got some other stuff. Let me do this. This is DSA member Frances Gill. I want you to listen to this. This. And honestly, I feel bad for her, how much she is in debt.

[Frances Gill]

I think what we're seeing is that people who are highly educated in this country were promised this path of economic success if you, you know, if you, if you go to college, if you get the degree, if you, you know, go down that path, you're going to be promised, you're going to be guaranteed economic success. But really what we're seeing is, yeah,

[Rob Carson]

we see you got to do some effort, you got to be innovative and

[Frances Gill]

stuff, that there's this huge downward mobility problem where people are putting in the money, taking out hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loans. You know, I have a half a million dollars.

[Rob Carson]

Did you hear that? She owes a half a million dollars,

[Frances Gill]

hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loans. You know, I have a half a million dollars in student loan debt personally.

[Rob Carson]

Why would a university or a university system give her more money after $100,000? She will never recover from that. That's a mortgage payment of 4,000, $5,000 a month for the rest of her stinking life. And that's just her student loans that didn't get her a job. General Blaine Holt joins us next. Don't go anywhere. Hey, guys, it's Carson. You know, when it comes to supplements, two things matter most. A, that it works, and B, that you can trust it. We hear from people every single day whose lives have changed, including mine. And we'd like you to hear a few of their stories. Chris has spent years of doing physical work leaving his feet sore at the end of the day. After starting Relief Factory, he felt so good. He did something he'd never done before. He ran a half marathon. Now he tells all his friends about relief Factor. I can still move furniture. I can still ride my mountain bike. I can still lift heavy weights. And Relief Factor makes all of those tasks pain free for me. Three weeks for just $17.76. Simply go to relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief. We hope you'll soon be sharing your story. With us, too. Again, relieffactor.com or 800 for rel. It is a Tuesday edition of the Rob Carson show. Joining us on the Newsmax hotline, friend of the show, former Brigadier general and host of the Dangerous Intellectuals podcast, Blaine Holt, ladies and gentlemen. How are you, sir?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

I could not be doing better. We are all for it this week, aren't we?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Oh, boy. This is. This is. This is something else. We got a whole bunch of stuff happening. I. I want to tell you this, though. You're gonna. You're gonna chuckle. You ready for this? So you got the Apple podcast, top news podcasts in America. Guess who I'm beating? NBC Nightly News and Jen Psaki.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

That tells the story all by itself, doesn't it?

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God. Isn't that fantastic?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

I love it.

[Rob Carson]

I just love it. I'm not sure where yours. Your podcast is, but I'm sure it's rising.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

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[Rob Carson]

I tell you what, man. I mean, honestly, it's a damn good podcast. It sounds good. The introductions and the promos you do for it are phenomenal, by the way. Absolutely phenomenal.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

It's a gift to have these guests, and I love every discussion. I'm in the middle of these discussions about what happened with COVID Medical manipulation, and it's only going to get better and better and better as we go on. I'm very, very grateful for who I get to.

[Rob Carson]

Come on. Ron Johnson said that the. The rate of miscarriage women who got the. The vaccine could be up upwards of 80%.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Yeah, I'm glad that we're getting exposure, but Ron Johnson's not responsible for one arrest yet. When is the theater? What is the theater going to be over? I mean, we're exposing the truth, but they're still walking around.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I agree. It's, you know, paging Dr. Mengele. You know, it is remarkable. Think about this.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Mengele's junior varsity compared to that guy. There are people walking right now who are going to die at his hands. Yeah, he was an accomplice and it's. We're going to have to know the true nature of this. We have to get to the bottom of this.

[Rob Carson]

Listen, if he paid for the virus to be created because he was a big fan of the, of the, you know, chain, the gain of function. He was a big fan. He continued it under. Under, underground. The virus was created, it was released. Anthony Fauci is responsible for the death of your loved ones. Anthony Fauci is responsible for your children's lives being destroyed in school. Anthony Fauci is responsible for your company's bankruptcy. Anthony Fauci is. Is. I mean, my God, what a monster. This guy is America's amygdala at the.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

At the least, at least this was his capstone work. I talked with Celia Farber on Dangerous Intellectuals yesterday, and she was the original investigative journalist who was ruined in his first rodeo when he started this whole formula via aids, the drug azt.

[Guest or Co-host]

Yeah.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

And canceling anybody who said anything different. I mean, to include Nobel laureates like Kerry Mullis, who's now dead, and Dr. Peter Duesberg. And all he does is get to the new place for his. This crescendo that he's at. And even when he pled the fifth 111 times, the smugness, the arrogance, the contempt. And he's the highest paid pensioner in American history from our government.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

And by the way, just him, not just him.

[Rob Carson]

Paxlovid was the AZT of COVID Yeah, it was. Paxlovid was the remdesivir and remdesivir and remdesivir.

[Frances Gill]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. And then, and then we find out, you know, ivermectin, mimbendazole, fenbendazole. I've been doing a lot of research on those. They're miracle drugs, bro.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

They're miracle drugs and miracle people behind them. Dr. Macus, Dr. Paula. These are all heroes who withstood the heat through all of it, had their credentials ripped, and yet they just persevered. Maccus has saved so many lives with his cancer protocols and he got drummed out of Alberta, Canada, because they're a pharma state and he just keeps on going. Well, it's personal for me. He saved my brother and he saved my brother's friend. Stage four came back.

[Rob Carson]

What really Macus and what was the, what was the protocol?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

The Macus protocol was fenbendazole. Membendazole. Took prostate cancer from about to get the big surgery to zero.

[Rob Carson]

And how many weeks did that take?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

It took five. It was a very ticked off oncologist, let me tell you that.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, you know, cancer is gigantic.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Leukemia, same thing. Leukemia went away. We've been lied to. And the more we understand the truth about what's really been available to us, the more angry, the more white hot angry we are going to get. And I wrote about this in my article [e-mail] I'm on a full court press with this stuff. If you let them get away with this stuff, they Will do it again.

[Rob Carson]

Well, cancer is trillion dollar business. I mean, it's gigantic. We get cancer hospitals, oncology degrees come down. What I think they want to do is they want to make cancer lifelong manageable. So you have to buy drugs for your entire life?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Oh, it's more than that. Listen, Rob, it's the whole industrial chain from cradle to grave. You're born here, have these vaccines. Step two, we're going to toxify your entire grocery store. So good luck getting anything that won't corrupt your metabolism, inflame the crap out of you and make you award of the pharma and the medical. And they'll, they'll take care of you all the way through on their drugs until you're ready for hospice and then they'll evaporate what's left of your savings accounts. It's absolutely a racket. It's now being exposed. And we as Americans can't be passive to this at all. Otherwise we're just going to be helpless little sheep victims. And that's my next guest is a member of the McCullough Foundation. Their vice president, John Leake, who wrote a brilliant book about the mind warfare that goes on to put us in these little boxes. So we won't say a thing.

[Rob Carson]

I had the opportunity to speak to Robert Malone. I went to the Newsmax Christmas party at the United Nations. We had a wonderful. They tried to destroy Marty Makary Batacharya. Robert Malone, the guy from the wellness company. I'm drawing a blank on his name right now. Dr. Drew McCullough. McCullough, yeah. They tried to ruin them.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Yes, yes. They're still trying, dude.

[Rob Carson]

I had, when I had Covid, I had to go to freaking Florida to get ivermectin. I went to Florida for ivory. It was so bizarre. I had to smuggle in.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Turned down for medical care. I'm a veteran. I went to a hospital that specifically caters to retirees, veterans and active duty military in the Seattle area. And they said, you're not vaxxed. And I said, nor am I going to be. And they said, well then get out of here. We don't have to treat you.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. I, I was in a, I was

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

in a fortune with pneumonia.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know, I, I was fortunate and people were bamboozled into believing and you know, as far as like Rachel Maddow forcing you down your throat or Stephen Colbert, I have no pity for them. But it is a damn shame that they forced this vaccine, particularly on pregnant women. And up to 80% of them lost their damn baby. Are you kidding me? You know, General, you know how profound a loss a miscarriage is for a woman we can't even imagine? And that. He laughed.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

They knew the numbers. They knew the numbers and they lied to everybody.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Well, I'm. I don't know. I. I would like to finally see some people be held accountable. Dear God in heaven, it's about time these bureaucrats got held against. Accountable for the damage they're causing.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Rob, when you. When you make the crime. There is a psychology here. When you make the crime big enough, gross enough, hard. Hard for the human brain to understand the evil behind it, then what we get is cognitive dissonance and good people just shut down. We're like, I can't handle it. I absolutely can't handle the crap we're learning about the Epstein list and all that and what they've done to little babies. You just can't handle it. What happens is you either shut down, refute it, or you go with the mainstream. Who says, no, that's all a hoax. None of that happened.

[Rob Carson]

Or October 7th or.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Or 9 11.

[Rob Carson]

Or 9 11. Yeah.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

And we got.

[Rob Carson]

It is. Well, we just, you know, we can never forget. We can never relent. We can never forget. I like to say people like you and I, for the last decade, we are battle hardened. We are not battle weary.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

And then we're ready, and we're ready to fight, and we're ready to fight again. And I'm gonna tell you, General, if these little SOBs try to get rid of the Senate or how we elect the president, we are going to have to kick their asses.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

We absolutely are going to have to kick their asses. But we also have to understand we have folks who are not friends on both sides of that aisle. So don't think for five seconds that D.C. is into anything other than preserving the rules and the little boy and good old girl system in D.C. at your expense, if it even takes your life.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, I'm going to be in your brigade, brother, because the homeboys and hillbillies. Homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews are going to kick some serious rear end. I want to talk a little bit about Iran getting all cocky, even though they've been basically reduced to powder on the other side of the break. Let's take a break. You're listening to the Rob Carson Show. Doug took Relief Factor for nearly a year before convincing his wife, a special needs teacher, to try it. She had been using assistance just to move through the long hallway at school. Now she's back on her feet every day. Never had to leave the job she loves. I can attest to this. I ride my mountain bike every weekend from 30 to 50 miles. I lift weights and I'm lifting heavier than I did when I was 30 without pain. People like Doug make it easy to find out if you'll be the next person telling us Relief Factor gave you what you love. Three weeks for just $17.76. Simply go to relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief. We hope you'll be sharing your story with us, too. Reliefactor.com or 1-800-for- relief. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't have my mic up. Let's try that again. Hello, everybody. Hey, I turned down the mic for a second. We are talking to Brigadier General Blaine Holt, who has the Dangerous Intellectuals Podcast. I gotta listen to that last podcast. You're talking about Ivermectin and all that. That's. That's fantastic stuff, brother. But generally, you know, we like to talk to you about all things military because you devoted your life to service. President Trump's rejected Iran's sweeping demands. You're not in the position to demand anything. Okay, let's say that demands for reopening the Strait of Hormuz, turning Tehran's call for war, reparations back on the regime, declaring that the United States is now demanding compensation from Iran in all future negotiations for people they've murdered and maimed and terrorized for 47 years. What do you think about the hubris of these jackasses in Iran demanding that we pay for damages for the war?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

You know, it sounds like hubris. It's really not. What it is, is it's an ill fated attempt to communicate to the Iranian people that they're winning this war. They're in charge, they're demanding money from the United States, and it's nothing but that. But the President seized on the moment so brilliantly by flipping the script and saying, oh, no, you owe us trillions of dollars for every man, woman and child you killed in your terror regime. And we'll be taking that. And by the way, we're going to offer some of that money of yours to your own people that you've been terrorizing. And, hey, he's got the ability to back it up because all that money has been locked up and frozen. The President can go write checks against that now, today and give that money away. And the stupid mullahs, what's left of them, know it. We're going to have a revolution. It's the only way out of this thing and it is coming.

[Rob Carson]

Well, the only thing that is going to bring that about, I think, is when the Iranian people see the damage we're causing them, and they already are, but the lights are still on, the bridges are still intact. And there's going to be a certain point where we've done so much damage to the regime and that the regime, through their abstinence has done so much damage to the people, the economy, etc. That they cannot be believed anymore. And I think we're right there.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Well, so this is why you take a scalpel, not a sledgehammer. And what I mean by that is you're shaping the battlefield for the revolutionaries. The MoU is nothing more than ability to create time so that these rebel groups could be organized, trained, equipped and ready to go. We're talking to them on the ground. The Kurds are helping. It's all coming together. But getting them ready for their revolution is a conditions based, professional, unemotional approach. And when Admiral Cooper says all conditions are met, the IRGC is vulnerable, it's your time. They're going to go. It's not about trepidation or being concerned or scared.

[Rob Carson]

Who's going to lead this? Who are the people who are going to be armed to go after these IRGC members?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

So you've got three. My understanding from what I've been told is you've got three major groups, one in the north, one in the southeast. One in the southwest. They kind of divide up by ethnicities. That makes it easy for language, communications and all of that. But yeah, they're current. Paul Revere's their, General MacArthur's their, Johnny Tremaine's. They're all unknown to us. And that is the great thing because we're not going to give the IRGC the ability to go get their families and Ramsack a bunch of crap.

[Rob Carson]

What about Palazzi coming back?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Yeah, I was just about to answer that. The he should only, you know, his father was installed by intelligence services. That's what we should never do is pick our guy. Air quotes. What we should do is, hey, if they want Razor Pahlavi back for the shop, we'll let them vote on it. It's up to them. We don't need to do that for them. And that's what's wrong with our deep state. They have been in a very nasty habit since the 50s. From Operation Gladio on to today of overturning countries, color revolutions. We have Our guys. Our guy never works out. Just ask the Vietnam vets. And we get to today. And so what we shouldn't do is pick our guy. Right now there's somebody getting ready to be the big hero of this revolutionary war in Iran. They can be the leader. Let them pick them. And we'll respect that. Let's try that one out for size.

[Rob Carson]

How's things going in Venezuela now?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

They're going very well. They're going very well. We have a lot of earthquake damage. Seven central bankers were killed. The ledgers were all destroyed. I mean, there was a lot of damage. I'm talking to a lot of companies who are working in there with power generation. My company might do something with some construction materials. But I'll tell you what is holding. What is holding is an alliance to the United States. A reorientation about Venezuelan life and culture and eradicating agents, bad guys and the rest of the. And what about you? That. So Cuba is going to be a darling. I think we've got that one well in hand. And Rubio.

[Rob Carson]

Rubio's taking the lead on that. Rubio is taking the lead on the hero of it.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Yeah, he would be. With his background. He is absolutely the hero of it. He is. Cuba. Cuba's coming back into the world.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, baby. Wouldn't it be fun? I'm gonna. I'm gonna go have a Cuban cigar with you on a beach in Havana, brother. We're gonna do it.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Okay? We'll drive to the beach in my 57 Chevrolet. That was made three months ago.

[Rob Carson]

What? Yeah. Okay. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I know, I know, I know. They're still building. Building Bel Airs. All right, tell everybody where they can find the podcast. Bro.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Come to dangerousintellectuals.com and please download these episodes because they're going to spark your critical thinking. In fact, the next episode is all about just that, critical thinking.

[Rob Carson]

Brother, you're the best. Take care of yourself. And God bless you.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

You, too. God bless.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Watch that one, baby. Come on. You know what I think we need? I think we need a laugh. We need a laugh. You got this. Kareem Abdul. Abdul, who's running for senator in the state of Michigan. Abdul Syed, whatever the hell. And he's already behind because he's a little too nuts. This is Jim Gassett. Come on.

[Caller or Guest]

Oh, Michigan's going for Mike. Mike Abdul sighed. They don't like.

[Rob Carson]

No way.

[Caller or Guest]

They will Tell him to take a hike.

[Rob Carson]

Come on, baby.

[Caller or Guest]

They won't be voting Voting for Abdul.

[Rob Carson]

Wow, this is sweet. Sweet. Brilliant.

[Caller or Guest]

Abdul is a radical with socialist views. That is why he is gonna lose. Says 911 was America's fault. It brought his campaign to a screeching halt. Michigan he can never fool they won't be voting for a duel.

[Rob Carson]

I'm standing in a race running against

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

someone who believes America deserved 9 11.

[Caller or Guest]

Mike Rogers is in the lead. Come on. He's the man that Michigan needs El Siad oughta concede Mike says that he's prepared to fight Come on, Mike. He's gonna win election night.

[Rob Carson]

Come on, Mike. I gotta tell you, that is just tight. That is just tight. Kerry Corley wrote on Rumble in the Chat I love this song that nobody does the standards like James. And you know why we do standards like this? Because they're intergenerational. They are. You know, a lot of times you do rock songs, it's hard to sound like the artist, like Elton John. You don't do parodies of Elton John unless you have, you know, Donald Trump's voice singing it. The standards can be done for anything. And Jim Gossett is a freaking Genius. My Lord. Patreon.com Jim Gossett Comedy Abdul Syed says that he he would not ban Sharia law.

[Caller or Commentator]

What does that mean? I don't know. Question755. When the state of Oklahoma voted in a referendum to amend the constitution to ban Sharia law, what does that mean? I don't know. And yet the voters banned it anyway.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Caller or Commentator]

I don't have to tell you that the same exact forces that drove native peoples from their land two centuries ago destroyed Black Wall Street a century ago, bombed a building decades ago and tried to ban Sharia law not a decade ago.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you can take your habala habala and stick it up your abala abala. How's that sound? Yeah, you're going to get your rear end kick, boy. Let's take a break and come back last hour, the Rob Carson Joe on the way. Don't go anywhere.