Fraud, Fallout & the Minnesota Mess

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Podcast Summary: The Rob Carson Show

Episode: "Fraud, Fallout & the Minnesota Mess"

Date: March 31, 2026

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In this lively and irreverent episode, Rob Carson and guests deliver biting commentary on current American political and cultural controversies, focusing especially on widespread fraud and accountability issues in Minnesota. The show features humor-laced outrage over government incompetence, media coverage, and progressive policies while welcoming special guest Liz Collin, a Minnesota journalist known for breaking fraud scandals. Major topics include the Ilhan Omar immigration controversy, population decline in blue states, ongoing daycare and autism-service fraud in Minnesota, and the challenges whistleblowers face in exposing corruption.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Population Decline in Blue States

(00:15–03:10)

• Rob details the sharp decline in population in California counties, especially Los Angeles County, attributing the exodus to failed Democrat leadership ("Gavin Newsom is the governor and he's turned it into a crap hole").
• Similar trends noted in other Democratic strongholds, including parts of Florida and Virginia, with listeners encouraged to draw a connection between progressive policies and urban decay.
• Rob lampoons the repeated pattern: “They ruin everything. They're like the aliens from Independence Day.”

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2. Cultural Parody and Critiques

(03:23–07:48)

• Rob introduces a mocking "View update," parodying the hosts of The View and their reactions to conservative stances on family and procreation.

• Discussion of the CPAC convention segment where Gen Z conservative activist Isabel Brown advocates for marriage and raising larger families, sparking outrage on progressive panels.

  • Rob: “It was the best thing that ever happened to me was being a father.” (04:52)
  • Satirical jabs at progressive resistance to pro-family talking points, framing them as radical and anti-reproductive.

• Guest commentator highlights the economic realities and retorts to conservative calls for higher birth rates, stating, “Most people don't make over $400,000. So she's advocating for people to be born into poverty.” (06:45)

• Rob’s sarcastic punch: “Yeah, you’d be much better off just aborting those babies. See what I mean?” (06:52)

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3. Escalating Childcare Costs and Daycare Fraud

(07:48–08:48, 27:38–29:34)

• Rob pokes fun at New York's massively expensive "free childcare" program: “Zoran Monami's free childcare program is going to cost $60,000 per child. Taxpayers are going to pick it up, of course.” (07:48)
• Transition to Minnesota’s fraudulent daycare and autism centers, where massive Medicaid and state grants have allegedly flowed to sham or questionable providers.
• Liz Collin later reports: “The program paid out a million dollars in 2017 when it started. By 2024, it had paid out, paid out over 220 million dollars. So it grew by 3,000% here in Minnesota.” (34:57)

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4. Illegal Immigration and Voter Rolls

(13:13–16:40)

• Interview segment with expert: The number of criminal illegal aliens is reported as over half a million in the last year of Biden’s presidency.
  • Rob’s punch: “It’s not we want to welcome people, it’s we want to stuff our—the census, the voter rolls with illegals to negate you other citizens’ votes.” (13:47)
• Debate over voter ID laws, with the assertion that the only people without ID in America are non-citizens.
• Notable quote from election integrity expert: “It’s really not difficult … every American can go and get an ID. This is a red herring. It’s just kind of fake scaremongering.” (15:33–15:51)

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5. Pride Month, Sports, and Free Speech

(18:01–19:48)

• Coverage of the Jaden Ivey controversy: the NBA player was removed from the Chicago Bulls for voicing opposition to Pride Month celebrations.
• Ivey protests (19:09): “They said my conduct is detrimental to the team, right? ... What did I do to the team? ... I did nothing but practice with them, play with them, pass the ball to them, good teammate to them.”
• Rob’s take: “I thought this woke nonsense was ending … it’s virtue signaling for young people who are otherwise not particularly exceptional in any way.”

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6. In-Depth Interview with Liz Collin

(22:04–38:54)

Highlights:

• Ilhan Omar Immigration Fraud Allegations

  • Benny Johnson and J.D. Vance allege that Rep. Ilhan Omar committed immigration fraud by lying on her immigration forms (22:47–23:31).
  • Liz Collin lays out Alpha News’ reporting: “These allegations … all the documentation is there that basically she changed her birth date. Her story has always been that she became a citizen at the age of 17 after naturalizing through her father. Well, there are questions, serious questions about her father even having being a US Citizen at all.” (23:54–25:34)
  • Collin highlights how Omar’s birth year was changed across official websites.

• Widespread Fraud in Minnesota’s Social Programs

  • Discussion of grant programs designed with minimal oversight, “It's sort of designed for fraud. There’s a lack of guardrails in place right in the policies.” (26:13–27:38)
  • On fraudulent autism centers: “...hundreds of these autism centers that were open in Minnesota and so far, six have reapplied. Six.” (29:08)

• Whistleblower Suppression & Reward Programs

  • Collin highlights retaliation against whistleblowers: “Any one trying to bring … to actually do their jobs and bring this to light, the retaliation for being a whistleblower. So we, I mean, we have been overwhelmed for years, frankly, with all of these tips about fraud.” (35:57)
  • Hope for change with Minnesota’s new whistleblower reward system: “If you have credible evidence of fraud, you know, come to us … we have been overwhelmed for years …” (35:57–36:50)

• Law Enforcement, ICE, and Minnesota Politics

  • Situation improved after change in ICE leadership: “...they went weeks … without what I would say, cooperating with ICE … Well, that changed under Tom Holman and there was cooperation.” (37:11)

• Public Perception and Media Blackout

  • Collin on local media ignoring the depths of the fraud and connections to activists or major political players: “None of the sound bites that you featured on your show so far … made it into the local news.” (33:57)
  • Both poke fun at inflated protest numbers and pileups of trash after demonstrations.

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7. Satirical & Memorable Moments

• Rob’s musical parody of The View hosts (“Pick a little, Talk a lot, Pick a little, Talk a little, cheep, cheep, cheep … Some would say that's sexist. Then you listen to Whoopi Goldberg's voice and say, no, it's not.”) (03:23–03:40)
• “They're like the aliens from Independence Day. Oh, you know what? … I meant the View. So the Harpies from the ... View cast, let's do a View update.” (02:55)
• “If I get one referral for my gym membership, I got $5 off ... I need to just pretend like my children have autism.” (30:02)
• “God help us if they have children. They're cat ladies … talking about some miserable ladies who have clearly lost their mind.” (40:38)

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Notable Quotes

1. On Democrat-run cities:
   • “They ruin everything. They're like the aliens from Independence Day.” — Rob Carson (02:55)
2. On pro-family activism:
   • “It was the best thing that ever happened to me was being a father.” — Rob Carson (04:52)
3. On whistleblowers and government fraud:
   • “[Minnesota’s] policies … are sort of designed for fraud. There's a lack of guardrails in place right in the policies.” — Liz Collin (27:38)
4. On Ilhan Omar’s alleged fraud:
   • “These allegations … all the documentation is there that basically she changed her birth date.” — Liz Collin (23:54)
5. On whistleblower retaliation:
   • “It has been just a disaster here with so many lives wrecked for anybody trying to … bring this to light, the retaliation for being a whistleblower.” — Liz Collin (35:57)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:15 – Population decline: LA County and blue states
• 03:23–07:48 – “View update”, pro-birth & family debate, cultural parody
• 13:13 – Criminal illegal aliens on the rise; impact on voter rolls
• 18:01–19:48 – Jaden Ivey, Pride Month, and free speech in sports
• 22:04 – Liz Collin interview begins
  • 23:54 – Ilhan Omar birth year and immigration fraud allegations
  • 27:38 – Design of Minnesota’s fraudulent grant system
  • 29:08 – Autism center fraud and drop in reapplications
  • 34:57 – Autism program payout explosion: $1M to $220M
  • 35:57 – New whistleblower rewards and ongoing retaliation
  • 37:11 – Impacts of ICE leadership changes
• 40:14 – “Cat lady” musical parody
• 39:33 – Show closes with trip promo and closing remarks

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Overall Tone and Style

• Informal, comedic, intensely partisan
• Heavy use of sarcasm and parody
• Combative attitude toward progressive policies and politicians
• Engages listeners with memorable analogies, parody songs, and open mockery of opponents
• Spotlights stories ignored by mainstream media, with a focus on actionable exposure of fraud

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For more investigative reports on Minnesota fraud and corruption, check out Liz Collin’s work at AlphaNews.org and follow her on X (@LizCollin).

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

Hold it.

[Co-host/Guest Commentator]

Now

[News Analyst]

you are about to hear the

[Rob Carson]

most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny

[Guest Commentator]

show in America on air and on

[Rob Carson]

the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson Show. Our number three of the show today, Liz Collin, who is a fantastic journalist from the state of Minnesota who's been instrumental in exposing all of the fraud up there. And she's just remarkable. She's going to join us at the bottom of the hour to talk about a number of things, including the new reward that Scott Besson is going to give you for turning over for being a whistleblower. And this is pretty amazing actually, because people will, instead of being destroyed by Tim Volt or others for whistleblowing, you know, like the FBI, FBI whistleblowers were destroyed when they came forward about the cases against Donald Trump that were fraudulent and all of other things that the FBI did. So this will actually pay people real money. Real money, ladies and gentlemen, to, to blow the whistle on all of these, all of this corruption. And you can like up to 30% of the, I guess the fine, I guess the fine that is imposed by the federal government when you do that. Let's count on the bottom of the hour real quick. Los Angeles county saw the largest decline of any county in the United States in 2025. Why? Because Gavin Newsom is the governor and he's turned it into a crap hole. And Karen Bass is the mayor and she's turned it into a crap hole. Nearly 54,000 moved out of the LA county area between January 21 or July 1, 2024 and July 1, 2025. The LA county was estimated to have more than 10 million residents. As of 2025, the county is down to 9.7. Still a long way to go. Still a lot of people there who I guess like to be punished and live in poverty and squalor and you know, have their houses burned down because of piss poor water management and you know, all the other garbage that they do there. Oh yeah. And then of course, let's not forget all of the hospices that are fraudulent. In the billions of dollars in fraudulent hospices that are there other California counties to lose? The highest percentage of residents include Tulum County, 1.9%, Lassen County, 1.7%. The second largest decline was seen in Pinellas County, Florida. Not sure. Orange County, California, San Diego County, California, Ventura county as well also made the top 10 for the largest population declines in the US last year. It's because the Democrat Party knows how to wreck things. They just Know how to wreck things. That's how they do it. You ever notice that whenever, you know, like, Zoran Van Dami won the election in New York, nobody said, oh, my God, I want to move back to New York? No. Everybody said, I'm going to move the hell out of New York. Same going right now with Virginia, with Abigail Scamberger as the. As the governor. A lot of people are already leaving. Boeing has already left. They've gone to St. Louis. And this is what the left does. They ruin everything. They're like the aliens from Independence Day. They really are. They're like the aliens from Independence Day. Oh, you know what? I think we need to. I think we talk about the Harpies from hell. God darn it, I did it again. They sound a lot alike. I apologize. I meant the View. So the Harpies from the. The View cast, let's do a View update.

Pick a little, Talk a lot, Pick a little, Talk a little, cheep, cheep, cheep Talk a lot, Pick a little more Pick a little, Talk a little, Pick a little, Talk a little, cheep, cheep, cheep Talk a lot, Pick a little more Pick a little, talk a little, Pick a little, talk.

Some would say that's sexist. Then you listen to Whoopi Goldberg's voice and say, no, it's not. No, it's not. They're real mad because some women at the CPAC convention said that maybe having babies was a good thing. All right? Maybe having babies is a good thing. I mean, we're seeing what's happening with populations like Somalians or radical Islamists in Great Britain. They're making a lot, lot of babies, like eight per family versus the uptight British over there who aren't having babies. And consequently, this is what happens, See, because, you know, you got to kind of do this thing called breeding to keep the population alive. It happens with all the animals, too. The little bunnies, the little, you know, birds and stuff. Maybe you didn't have this talk when you were kids because you think a girl can have a penis. I don't know what the deal is. I don't know what the problem is with you guys. But anyway, the View is very mad that they suggested having babies.

[Co-host/Guest Commentator]

I don't even know how to explain this.

[Rob Carson]

Again, how is it sexist with her voice?

[Guest Commentator]

Sorry.

[Co-host/Guest Commentator]

But I'm going to tell you what happened. The Conservative Political Action Conference, known as cpac, wrapped up this weekend, and Conservative activist Isabel Brown had a message for her fellow Gen Z women.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I think it's pretty cool. Actually who reportedly. I really, I love being a father. I. It was the best thing that ever happened to me was being a father. They are the least likely husband was number one. But you know that kind of went

[Co-host/Guest Commentator]

south group in America to get married and have kids. But I want you to see this.

[Rob Carson]

Okay clip.

[Conservative Activist]

If you're not encouraging your children to grow up and have the courage to get married and have kids more kids than they.

[Rob Carson]

That is scandalous. How dare she could say that they

[Conservative Activist]

can afford before they think they're ready. It is high time to start. It is these choices like deleting our dating apps and quitting birth control pills and saying I do at the altar that ultimately trickle down into the political policies that we will see save our country.

[Rob Carson]

Well, that is, that's pretty outrageous that you want to get married and spend your life with somebody and raise a family of this. That is pretty grotesque stuff.

[Guest Commentator]

I think it's just really reckless.

[Rob Carson]

It's reckless. Now this is the same by the way, this is the same mindset that caused at least 30 million black babies to get killed in the womb since Roe v. Wade. Because they're going to make it seem like babies are a burden. They're going to make it seem like it's reckless to not have a baby considering how expensive childcare is. It's the same kind of mindset that ushered in the Chinese one child policy where baby girls would be left on the roadside to die from exposure.

[Guest Commentator]

To be suggesting that people should have children when you now know in this country there's this affordability crisis. And for a two person household, a married house, need over $400,000 for child care. Over $400,000.

[Rob Carson]

And how in the hell are there trailer parks in the South? There's. There's families there that have three or four kids in them.

[Guest Commentator]

Most people don't make over $400,000. So she's advocating for people to be born into poverty. People not being.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you'd be much better off just aborting those babies. See what I mean?

[Guest Commentator]

Able to feed those children. People not being able to educate those

[Rob Carson]

children and people, it's edumacate.

[Guest Commentator]

Well, not being able to house those children at the same time when this government is cutting all of the services that would allow people to have families and big families.

[Rob Carson]

Why would you have a baby if your government can't pay for it? What the hell did I tell you? Did I tell you it's exactly like China's one policy. It's the exact mindset of the Great Society that that Lyndon Johnson brought in. And then of course, Planned Parenthood actually committed the Genocid.

Talk a lot, pick a little, talk a little, cheep, cheep, cheep, tog a lot, pick a little more, pick a little toggle, pick a little toggle, cheep, cheep, cheep, toggle a lot, pick a little more, pick a little, talk a little, pick a little toggle, cheet a lot, pick a little more, pick a little toggle, pick a little, toggle off. Pick a little more, pick a little toggle, pick a little toggle, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep.

Although with whoopee, it's more like pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little, cheep, cheep, cheep, chocolate, little bit of more. Zoran Mandami's new free childcare program is going to cost Are you ready? You better sit down for this one because this is, this is what free childcare cost. What do you pay for child care? What do you pay for child care? $1000 a month. $1200 a month. $1500 a month. $2000 a month, probably depending on where you live. Depending on where you live. Zoran Monamis free childcare program is going to cost $60,000 per child. Taxpayers are going to pick it up, of course. Mandami rolled out a $2.3 million daycare pilot for New York workers with hefty $60,000 per kid price because it's all overhead. It's all government overhead is what it is. Zorman Mannami announces the new daycare center for municipal workers Monday. It's going to cost more than double the average price of child care. $60,000 per child. The first floor of the David Dinkins Municipal Building in Lower Manhattan after a multimillion dollar renovation of a room for just 40 children aged six weeks to three years old. This is almost as big as the free grocery store. That lasted a day. That lasted a day. Mondavi says that Mayor Adams administration didn't allocate operating funds for the center, which his Honor said would have a 3.2.3 million dollar price tag be included in the city's upcoming executive budget. That works out to $57,000 per child to attend the daycare. I hope they have foie gras for lunch every day. I really do. On average, daycare centers in the city for infants comes in at $26,000 a year, 23,400 for TOD to the city's comptroller's office. And the cool thing is if you own one of These daycares in Minnesota, you get that money and don't even have to take care of children. So you might do that. I'm just saying that that might be a good idea. I want to talk about this. This Jaden, Ivy, me and booted from the Chicago Bulls for not celebrating Pride Month. We're going to do that in a second. When the dollar's convertibility into gold ended in 1971, gold was fixed at $35,000 an ounce. Oh my Lord. Fast forward to today. US dollar has lost 85% of its purchasing power. Gold, on the other hand, has increased in value by 12,000%. This is why central banks are buying it. This is why major firms like Vanguard and BlackRock hold significant positions in gold. Why I'm encouraging you to consider diversifying your savings with physical gold from Birch Gold. But it starts with education. Now here. Because you want to learn more. I want you to pay attention here. Birch Gold just announced their Learn and Earn Precious Metals event. This event online free rewards you for learning the basics of investing in precious metals. Sign up to get free silver on your next purchase. Get even larger incentives as you go. Maybe a date with Rob Carson. 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You remember the hell that was owning property in Texas along the southern border. You remember screaming at the at the administration and the television, my God, why aren't you doing something about this? Well, Jim Comer has the answer.

[Guest Commentator]

You gave an incredible number in the last few days about the number of criminal illegal aliens who were roaming the streets in the last year of Joe Biden's presidency. It's more than a half million if I remember correctly. How does that happen? How do people with criminal records get in, stay here and keep operating?

[Immigration Expert]

Because they focus on sanctuary states. The states where their their growth in their political agenda.

[Rob Carson]

This is why Democrats make their state

[Immigration Expert]

sanctuary states is based on getting those illegals to become richer, not benevolent in

[Rob Carson]

any way shape or form. It's not we want to welcome people, it's we want to stuff our the census, the the voter rolls with illegals to negate you other citizens votes voters

[Immigration Expert]

getting those illegals to help with their friends and families in that particular demographic to turn out the vote. And you've got massive amount of illegals in blue states with blue governors who all look in the mirror and see a future president of the United States and they don't want to do anything about it. That's why they are getting their liberal base all jacked up over ice. That's shut the federal government down for 50 days because they don't want ice to come in and apprehend the criminal illegals. They know the borders already secured. They're hoping that we'll get a Democrat president in three years and they can reopen the border just like Joe Biden had it. But in the meantime they don't want ICE to go in and apprehend the illegals.

[Rob Carson]

Pretty evil actually. I mean really, really, really evil. Your Democrat party is evil. And the media plays along feeds Pablum to the masses. The masses gobble it up like hungry little birds, their mothers vomiting chopped up worms into their mouths. Here is Ed Henry from Newsmax talking to Harmeet Dillon about cleaning up the voter rolls and how Democrats are willing to not only see people murdered but also insult certain groups of people with regard to getting an id. So illegals can actually vote.

[Interviewer (Ed Henry)]

Democrats like Booker told us for years that there were no illegals voting in America. But if you're shrinking the rolls by 5 to 10%, seems like there are some illegals on those roles. And B are very accomplished women like you so clueless that you can't figure out how to get a photo id. I'm just curious.

[Election Integrity Expert]

Yeah, no, I mean this is not really a problem for any American. Every American can go and get an id. It's really not difficult. And in fact, over the years the

[Rob Carson]

only There are no citizens of the United States who don't have id. They don't exist. The only people who don't have proof of citizenship are people who aren't.

[Election Integrity Expert]

There are states that have required ID to vote have all also made it free for people to be able to get IDs at the state level. So this is a red herring. It's just kind of fake scaremongering. And you're correct about the second point regarding illegal aliens on the voter rolls. We've only been able to cleanse with the help of cooperative states between 55 and 60 million voter records so far. But we referred tens of thousands of potential illegal aliens to our federal officials to further investigate. And now every time you have one of these cases, you want to make sure you're interviewing people and making sure there isn't a common name, something like that. So we aren't going after the wrong person. But once we're through with that, I think you're going to find there are quite a few people who are on the rules illegally.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. This is why the Democrat Party wants to shut down the ice, by the way. Ice? Among other things, they started calling ICE Nazis a couple of years ago. And again, they're not afraid of suffering. They're not afraid of, for instance, you know, people who work for the dhs, different agencies, not only just tsa, not getting paychecks. Here is Bill Mulluchin talking about those

[News Analyst]

people is the fact that ICE and CBP civilian support employees are not getting PA right now. Yes, the frontline ICE and CBP agents are getting their paychecks via the one big beautiful bill. But the thousands of crucial non Law enforcement support personnel that these agencies have are not getting paid. Think of the people who work the computers, put gas in the cars, work in the public affairs offices, et cetera. I've gotten to know a lot of these folks over the years.

[Rob Carson]

It's unbelievable the suffering that the Democrat Party is causing. And it's the Democrat Party that's doing it. Donald Trump just signed an executive order to make sure that ICE agent were paid. If he really didn't want him to get paid, he could just leave it alone because it's working perfectly. We're not stupid. Here is Bill Malujo on top of all of this. You know, the members of Congress decided to take two weeks off, as you mentioned.

[News Analyst]

They gaveled in, they gave out and they adjourned until Thursday. There was some thought that maybe Lindsey

[Rob Carson]

Graham was seen at Disney World with a, with a bubble wand in his hand. I'm thinking that's not the first time he's had a bubble wand in his hand.

[News Analyst]

I mean, they would take up that House passed dhs.

[Rob Carson]

I mean, if that's what you want

[News Analyst]

to call it, Funding bill, which funds all of DHS in order to do that.

[Rob Carson]

I'm not talking about a bubble. It blows bubbles is what it does.

[News Analyst]

They would have had to do it via unanimous consent. Essentially what that means is a senator would propose it and then if one single senator objects, it's dead. It gets killed. So Republicans could have intro'd it. They decided not to because Senator Chris Coons for the Democrats was there and was ready to block it. So there's been critical.

[Rob Carson]

I'm just so sick of these bloody games. Say these games. This is the second time the Democrats have done this. They'll try to do it again the next time. It's going to be ad nauseam for the next, the next three, three years. And I'm done with it. I'm done with her crap, to be quite honest. I am ready to fight, to fight back. Jaden Ivey has been removed from the Chicago Bulls. He spoke out against Pride Month because for some reason adult gay people want to be infantilized with stupid events like Pride Month. Honestly, really, honestly, is Pride Month this important to you? I don't think any adult gay person who' really a legit adult. I think you're embarrassed by this. If anything, you go to the game and you're like, oh great. They're pointing out to everybody I'm gay and they're putting a rainbow on my $20 soda or beer or whatever the hell ridiculous. Here's Jaden Ivey.

[Jaden Ivey]

They said my conduct is detrimental to the team, right? Why didn't they just say we we don't agree with his stance on lgbtq? Why didn't they say that? But how, how is it, how is it conduct detrimental to the team? What did I do to the team? What did I do to the players? I did nothing. But, but, but practice with them, play with them, pass the ball to them, good teammate to them, said, good job, good shot. I said, I said good job, good job, good pass. Way to play, bro. Right? I said these things to my teammates.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I thought this woke nonsense was was ending. I don't know the whole story about this, but it sounds like this was the the final straw for the Bulls because he was talking out against Pride Night. Like that's important at an NBA game. I mean, honestly, it's the same thing with a hockey game the other night. It was a Rangers and everybody said, why are you doing this? It's just stupid. Honestly, it's just stupid. And it is. Honestly, it's virtue signaling for young people who are are otherwise not particularly exceptional in any way, shape or form. They can suddenly claim to be the opposite gender to get the attention that they need because they're so lame. And then for the real adults out there who are gay, they roll their eyes and go, oh my God, I can't believe that. I can't just live my life without somebody infantilizing me because I'm gay. Honestly, how about just play some basketball? My little Take a break and come back. We've got the great Liz Collins next. Don't go anywhere.

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[Guest Commentator]

On a

[Rob Carson]

Joining me is one of my favorite journalists, Liz. She has been in, in the Twin Cities, I guess, all of her adult, adult life and career and, and she's definitely stirring it up right now. We welcome her to the Newsmax hotline. Hello, Liz Collin, how are you today?

[Liz Collin]

Hello Rob. Doing well. How are you today?

[Rob Carson]

Good. As the weather warms up, has it become any less nuts up there?

[Liz Collin]

Well, the weather is warming up, yes, but the nuts are still falling from trees, my friend.

[Rob Carson]

You got I'll bet. I' I've got a little something I want to play here from Benny Johnson after He talked to J.D. vance and J.D. vance said that Elon Omar has committed immigration fraud.

[Benny Johnson]

That's the first time on the record that we have absolute and total confirmation that Ilhan Omar did in fact commit immigration fraud. And I looked this up right before coming on your show that lying on your immigration forms or committing fraud against the United States of America is an immediate denaturalization offense. It is something that has been tried in court. It happens actually quite regularly where people lie to get into this country. They're denaturalized, they're sent home. That must happen with Ilhan Omar. The rest of the clip, JD Vance says we're exploring this right now, but Stephen Miller has all of the available evidence and I checked with DHS. This is 100% true. Ilhan Omar committed immigration fraud to get into America and to loot our nation dry.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, there you go. So that is Benny Johnson after he interviewed J.D. vance and J.D. vance said that, yeah, she committed immigration fraud. I know, Liz, you've got, you've got, but you've also got that she changed her birth year as well. What do you know about this? What do you suppose the repercussions are? Do you suppose anything that we fantasized about, like her being denaturalized and deported will come true?

[Liz Collin]

Yeah. You know, Rob, this is something that we've been reporting on over at Alpha News for almost a decade now. I'll be honest, 2019, we put a three part series together that really documented all the evidence about her marrying her brother. Nothing happened when it came to that, marrying him in order to get him legal status. But some of the stories we've been focused on as of late include just that, these allegations, they are allegations but all the documentation is there that basically she changed her birth date. Her story has always been that she became a citizen at the age of 17 after naturalizing through her father. Well, there are questions, serious questions about her father even having being a US Citizen at all. Not only that, but when these allegations came to light, it was basically saying that, you know, she was 17, but turns out she would have been 18 according to her own timeline that she kept repeating. So she wouldn't even be eligible to naturalize through her father. So then it was a candidate running against her in the congressional race that made these claims in a video. And two days after this video hit social media, magically, the congresswoman changes her birth date on all of her. You can even see it's changed on her Wikipedia page. It changed on her legislative page when she was a House rep. Her birth date went from 81 to 82. Just magically. So that's really, really quite the story. But you're right. This is the first time the Vice President really acknowledging, like, hey, yeah, she, you know, she committed immigration fraud. Now it's just a matter of what are they going to do? But.

[Rob Carson]

Well, yeah, exactly. You know, it's interesting, you would think that Tim Vance would lay low considering that he's under the microscope for all of this massive fraud in the state of Minnesota, and it went all the way up to his assistance. So I'm, I. There is no way on God's green earth he didn't know about it. And then considering the number of whistleblowers who were shot up and taken down or driven completely out, like Scott Stillman, by the way, he. He brought this up in 2017, but. But he's out at the no Kings rally, you know, scre screaming and yelling and talking about. He's still. He's still with the Somalis. I mean, who. Who is still supporting this guy?

[Liz Collin]

Well, I think he realizes that not very many are, which is why he dropped out of the race. And he's. Yes, but he's still running his mouth until the very last moment he's in office. That's for sure. But, yeah, just really repulsive remarks he made this weekend. He wasn't. He wasn't the only one. But I guess at this point, he just decided that he has nothing to lose. There is, you know, these ongoing federal investigations into his involvement with fraud, a DOJ referral that we're aware of, so we'll have to see what comes of that. But I think it's hard to argue, you know, Congresswoman Omar Seems to have known about this as well. There's an awful lot of them and it has been kind of out in the open for such a long time. Actually, I just recently interviewed another whistleblower. Joe Bakke is his name, but he spent many years, years with the state just talking about how it's sort of baked into these policies like a grant, for example. Minnesota gives out billions of dollars in grants every year. And right in the policy, as he walked us through on my podcast recently, it says you only. You have to give them a heads up. You know, for a site visit, you only have to basically audit 1/4 out of 8, you know, so their financials only have to look good for a short period of time. Just all of these things that it doesn't seem. It's sort of designed for fraud. There's a lack of guardrails in place right in the policies.

[Rob Carson]

You would think that the average Minnesota would be very, very upset about it because there are a lot of hard working people in the state of Minnesota. You look at northern Minnesota, all of the manufacturing, all of the farming up there, people who live, you know, paycheck to paycheck, if they get a paycheck at all. And you've got people who are opening daycare centers with no, who drive Bentleys. I mean, it really is, it is just ridiculous. Let me ask you this. Has it started to impact some of the fraudsters? Are these daycares going out of business? I've heard, you know, Jacob Fry, who by the way, has been off the national radar. He's not been saying anything lately, but he was complaining about, oh, these Somali businesses are suffering and all of this. Have these places that have, you know, the autism centers, the, you know, the adult transportation centers, the whatever. Are they, are they closing now?

[Liz Collin]

Yeah, you really saw, I think this whole anti ICE thing was a smokescreen for fraud. They wanted to hide this for as long as possible. And now Mayor Fry has gone away again because he can't keep talking about the big bad ICE agents that came to town but, you know, and enforced the law. But what's interesting is I'll just give one example because there are many programs that have been put under the microscope and many that have just. They've stopped funding altogether. One being this autism program. So under the. They have to basically reapply in order to get money. And they had hundreds of these autism centers that were open in Minnesota and so far, six have reapplied. Six.

[Rob Carson]

Well, it must have been a miraculous cure.

[Liz Collin]

Yeah, I mean, it's really amazing how it went from every child having autism to very few again.

[Rob Carson]

So, Liz, does this make you wonder, does this make you wonder if, you know, because we had a massive increase in autism cases and listen, I see more autism than what I, I was a kid. But you got to kind of wonder if this affected the national, you know, percentages of children who actually have autism because so much of it was fraudulent. Did you ever think about that?

[Liz Collin]

Oh, absolutely. I mean, and they've also said that it was doing their own investigation and they found that people were basically paying people to not only to diagnose, but to refer other people to for kickbacks. So they were finding people were paid, they were getting kickbacks from Medicaid money. And then the state said, oh, gosh, we didn't know that that was something that we should, you know, pass on to the authorities. So they never did. I mean, wow.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. Meanwhile, If I get one referral for my gym membership, I got $5 off. I needed it. I need to just pretend like my children have autism. Liz, can you hold on? I want to talk to you about the, the rewards being offered by Scott Besant. If that's gonna, you think that's gonna have an impact on what's going on in Minnesota as well as other things. Could you hold on on, please?

[Liz Collin]

Sure thing. Yep.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely. Awesome. Liz Collin. Go to Twitter at Liz Collins. Alpha News, by the way, is where she's from. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. Hey guys, it's Carson. I just got a ghost bed. Yeah, pay attention here because I've been sleeping on a foam mattress since I moved to the Washington, D.C. area, which is like sleeping on the the sponge in your sick. Ghostbed doesn't build mattresses like furniture. They build engineered sleep systems. Their beds are serious health equipment beds designed for relief and recovery, not looks, not fluff. Your body should be healing while you sleep, not fighting for comfort. I have been sleeping past seven in the morning on my ghostbed. It's unbelievable. If you wake up stiff, you toss and turn. If you sleep hot, even reaching for a pain reliever before bed, hoping tonight will be different. That's not aging, it's your mattress toss. Another great thing I love about Ghostbed. You get 101 nights to try it at home. If you don't like the difference, you can send it back risk free. Ghostbed is offering my audience their lowest prices of the season plus an extra 10% off. Go to ghostbed.com Carson use promo code Carson, that's ghostbed.com. carson promo code. Carson, you are going to love your new ghostbed.

[Lee Finke]

I'm a state representative. I work here along with my colleague, colleague Shelley Buck in the Minnesota House of Representatives. I'm here to provide a little trans representation. Trans representation. But I'm also here to demand our trans liberation. And I'm here to demand our liberation for everyone. I don't mean only queer and trans liberation. All of ours. Immigrants, great refugees, undocumented neighbors, our friends with disabilities, our indigenous tribal nations, everyone. Full equality, full inclusion, full stop.

[Rob Carson]

That is Lee Finke, who is a member of the legislature in the state of Minnesota, which proves actually that no Kings was about nothing. Because what that person just said isn't true and it doesn't exist. There's no issues with any of those people. Liz Collin, I gotta tell you, did you guys have big no Kings protests up there? I figured it out this weekend. They were about nothing.

[Liz Collin]

Oh, it was really amazing. And actually I think there's so many of us that demand to be freed from fraud. We didn't see any speeches related to that. Actually. It was amazing to see, Rob. The local media went to work, probably unlike I've ever seen them before, which is really saying something. But just this breathless coverage the week leading up to. To the no Kings rally.

[Rob Carson]

Oh my God.

[Liz Collin]

And they were saying they expect 150,000 people. And my sources within law enforcement said, yeah, it's probably about 50 or 60,000. But then we had the media saying organizers say 200,000 people attended. I mean, yeah, absolutely crazy. But yeah, some of the speeches were quite something. And then you'll be shocked. But there was just mountains of trash left behind.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[Liz Collin]

After the rally.

[Rob Carson]

So nobody really imagine from the people who set up Chaz Zones and all of that. Oh my God. It just created. Just honestly ridiculous. Did the local media cover the fact that George Soros and Neville Singham and 500 NGOs are funding all these protests? Did they touch on that?

[Liz Collin]

And actually none of the, none of the sound bites that you featured on your show so far from Walls, really thinking none of those made it into the local news.

[Rob Carson]

Isn't that amazing? I swear to God, you know, when I was in, when I was in Minnesota doing morning radio, nothing like this cco. There was the NBC affiliate with Paul majors over there, KCTV5. None of that. And I guess they are completely woke. Including your old news organization, wcco. They're the worst of all, I think.

[Liz Collin]

Yeah, I think they may be the cream of the crop as well. And just when I think. And I actually don't even really watch it, but then, you know, you obviously do see it online. And I'm like, I can't even believe this is a headline. It's just, it's Clown World. And, you know, in the commercial break there, I wanted to get these numbers in front of me. I thought it would be good for your audience to know when it came to the autism program. Rob. So the program paid out a million dollars in 2017 when it started. By 2024, it had paid out, paid out over 220 million dollars. So it grew by 3,000% here in Minnesota

[Rob Carson]

and nobody noticed that. Isn't that weird how all of the watchdogs. All of the watchdogs, including your, you know, Keith Ellison, who od, was a financial partner with Ilhan Omar's husband. Isn't that kind of weird how that happens?

[Liz Collin]

Yeah, the connections and I mean, again, they, they date back a long, a long time here.

[Rob Carson]

This is why I think that Tim, why Tim Waltz has, is not have any value at all. He has no money in his 401k. I guess he thinks he's just getting it taken care of. I have no idea. Let me ask you this. As far as this new reward system, Scott, the Treasury Secretary has come up with, he's saying up to 30% of the fines against, you know, these people who commit acts of fraud. Do you suppose this will end the. The blocking of, of whistleblowers that has occurred, particularly in Minnesota for the last, like, 10 years?

[Liz Collin]

Yeah, I think it's really smart. It was yesterday that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen announced, I think on Fox News. But that's right. That's where I first saw it, saying, okay, if you have credible evidence of fraud, you know, come to us because this has been, it's been just a disaster here with so many lives wrecked for anybody trying to bring. To actually do their jobs and bring this to light, the retaliation for being a whistleblower. So we, I mean, we have been overwhelmed four years, frankly, with all of these tips about fraud. So I know people are willing. We've done a lot of interviews, but obviously a lot of them have to be anonymous. It is difficult because they know coming forward will cost them their jobs and perhaps even worse. Some people have had to relocate out of state. We heard that from the whistleblowers as well.

[Rob Carson]

So Donald Trump, I thought it was a brilliant move to defuse the Democrat rage machine in Minnesota by removing the previous ICE director. How did that. I mean, was that like night and day when he did that, because it looked like it completely changed a situation that was really out of control up there.

[Liz Collin]

Yeah, it was interesting. I was given an interview with the field office. Basically the head of the field office there, Sam Olson is his name. He's kind of new to the position, but he was just walking me through kind of the weeks of Operation Metro Surge in that interview and he seemed to allude to that as well, that, you know, it sort of took Tom Holman to come in. I mean he is kind of a cop and you know, was doing all these meetings, not so much. He wasn't so much in front of the camera. I mean he did a couple, you know, press conferences, but he was really meeting with as many players as possible to all get on the same page. And we really saw a switch. Like the Minneapolis Police Department, for example. They went weeks, Rob, without even. Without what I would say, cooperating with ICE in the sense that you would see them on scene scene and they would leave the scene when protests got got heated and they would send in like the State patrol to come in and make arrests. It made no sense even though this was happening in Minneapolis. Well, that changed under Tom Holman and there was cooperation. And so, you know, thankfully, it was

[Rob Carson]

a brilliant, I thought it was a brilliant move. I thought it was a brilliant move. By the way, one quick thing. Are they still sending suitcases of money through the, through the TSA at the airport to some Somalia?

[Liz Collin]

Yeah. Beth has talked about how they've cracked down on that. Yeah. They were saying millions of dollars, we're leaving msp.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Liz Collin]

Every week they have crackdown on that. Good deal. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I can see, I can see why you stay in the Twin Cities area. As a journalist, as a human being, I don't know how you do it, Liz.

[Liz Collin]

There are good people, they're all good people here. Yeah, you're right. And let's be curious, you know.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely. Liz, you are the best. You're with Alba News. Tell everyone where they can find your glorious work, your podcast, etc.

[Liz Collin]

Oh, you're very kind, Rob, thank you. So AlphaNews.org is the place to go. And I'm Liz Collin on X. We're also Alpha News on X. Follow us. We always are breaking stories first. A lot of the stuff that the mainstream media in fact will never touch, including I will say a breaking story about Governor Walz having his state patrol vehicle broken into because had a horrible rash of break ins in Minneapolis, the city that is not safe. And Governor Walls got caught up in that also. So that's the news. It is.

[Rob Carson]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Liz Collins, thank you very much for finding the time today. I appreciate you so much. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.

Come on.

It's a Rob Carson show. I was going to do crazy catalading update. Yeah, I'm going to do a crazy catalytic update. Here is a crazy white liberal catalog saying that she's gonna kill Trump's supporters and Trump with a shotgun.

[White Liberal Threat Speaker]

Count your days, presidential party. If I see any one of you, and I know who you are, I'm not gonna have to say it out loud. I know if I see any one of you and I have a loaded shotgun, I'm putting it between your eyes. It goes. Starts with Trump first, obviously, and then it goes down the line of power.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. I doubt you have a shotgun and I really doubt you would know how to shoot it. Here's Jim Gossett.

[Guest Commentator]

Well, they have a lot of ca. And they're all Democrats. We call them Karens. They have a whiny voice. They are all pro choice and mostly barren.

[Rob Carson]

God help us if they have children.

[Guest Commentator]

They're cat ladies. Whoa, whoa, whoa. They're cat ladies. Talking about some miserable ladies who have clearly lost their mind.

[Liz Collin]

There you go.

[Rob Carson]

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