Fraud Files & the Fall of Colbert

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Rob Carson Show – "Fraud Files & the Fall of Colbert"

Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Rob Carson – Newsmax Radio
Featured Guest: Christian Toto (HollywoodInToto.com)
Theme: Humorous and incisive discussion of political corruption in the U.S., focusing on recent fraud indictments, media bias, and the decline of late-night comedy—especially Stephen Colbert’s legacy.

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Episode Overview

This lively and pointed episode mixes humor and outrage as Rob Carson delves into recent, large-scale fraud scandals tied to government programs, what he views as the institutional rot in the American political establishment (particularly the Democratic Party), and the mainstream media’s failure to hold power to account. In the latter part, guest Christian Toto analyzes the decline and collapse of "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert," reflecting on the late-night TV landscape. The episode is peppered with parodic musical segments, pop culture asides, and blunt, emotive commentary.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Rob Carson’s Show and Ambitions

• [01:37] Carson mentions his TV show "Rob Carson’s What in the World" on Newsmax, highlighting its satirical impact, Donald Trump’s endorsements, and his personal dream of starting a late-night show in D.C.
  • Quote: "This town needs an enema. There you go. And I'm here to give it to them." (02:39)

2. Midwest Fraud Scandals: Feeding Our Future & Beyond

Deep dive into the recently exposed multi-million dollar frauds:

• [04:30–11:00] Rob describes widespread government program fraud, notably in Minnesota and Ohio, where “fraudsters” stole hundreds of millions meant for feeding children, Medicaid, and daycares.
  • Details massive scams:
    • $90 million Medicaid fraud (MN)
    • "Feeding Our Future" $250 million scandal (Amy Bach case)
• Rob’s rhetorical outrage:
  • "There are people who just became multi, multi millionaires. They stole our money. While you're busting your butt doing two or three jobs." (04:41)
  • "These people just come in and rob us blind. Rob us blind. I swear to God." (05:23)

Guest & Official Comments

• Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald: [05:33]
  • "If you’re a fraudster, do not walk away from this press conference. Run. Because we are coming after you."
• Brandon Gill: [06:19]
  • "It's the beginning in Minnesota of our efforts to root out the pervasive fraud upon the program."
• Rob maintains that high-level politicians “knew every damned thing that was happening.” (07:26)
• Accusations that officials were willfully blind, resistant to transparency ("open the books"), and possibly complicit.
  • Quote: "They’re suing us to prevent us from accessing those records." – Brandon Gill [09:49]

3. Linking Political Elites and Systemic Corruption

• [10:17–12:30] Rob likens the U.S. establishment to an oligarchy:
  • "The Democrat Party is the world's largest criminal crime family. It is. And it's worse than we could have ever, ever, ever imagined." (10:17)
  • "Bernie Sanders has four friggin' houses. He's a socialist. Nancy Pelosi is worth $400 million. That's an oligarchy." (11:08)

4. Amy Bach and the "Feeding Our Future" Scandal

• [17:21–18:00] Rob plays a prison interview with Amy Bach as she learns prosecutors want a 50-year sentence.
  • Quote: Amy Bach: "It's shocking, it's disappointing, it is hurtful." (17:21)
  • Rob: "Doesn’t matter. You’re guilty. You’re going to jail for the rest of your life… I hope it was worth it." (17:55)
• Discussion of how politicians interacted with fraudsters, particularly Ilhan Omar and Keith Ellison.

Political Accountability

• [19:09] Senator Josh Hawley:
  • "Keith Ellison had a meeting in his office with the Feeding Our Futures fraudsters. They asked him…to please help them get the investigators off their backs. He agreed…and then just a few days later, he took thousands of dollars in campaign contributions…this guy ought to be in prison."
• Satirical musical segment advocating for their imprisonment [20:55]

5. Media, Bias, and Cover-Ups

• [15:07] Rob denounces mainstream reporters for ignoring public data behind these frauds, tying media inaction to political partisanship.
  • Argues that media attacks (like labeling Elon Musk a Nazi) were distractions.
  • "They just robbed us blind in the meantime." (16:02)

6. The Fall of Colbert – With Christian Toto

Transition to pop culture criticism.

• [24:15–31:30]
  • Christian Toto examines Colbert’s "Late Show" collapse:
    • Criticizes the hyper-partisanship and lack of mass appeal.
    • "I just don't think Stephen Colbert necessarily resonated when it was so cutting against President Trump night after night. And that just alienated a huge segment of the American people." – Christian Toto [24:15]
    • "The show was losing $40 million a year." – Rob Carson [24:42]

Stats and Critiques

• Colbert’s guest list (Media Research Center):
  • 176 elected Democrats over 3 years; only one Republican (Liz Cheney). [26:02]
  • "Why would Bernie Sanders be a guest? I've never heard him say anything funny ever." – Rob Carson [32:21]
  • "He was smug, he was self-satisfied. He was lecturing the audience." – Christian Toto [30:47]
• Gutfeld compared favorably: smaller staff, more ideological diversity.
  • "Gutfeld is a political commentator and he does comedy...It’s a low budget affair... But you know what to expect." – Rob Carson [29:55]
• General decline of late-night (Letterman, Leno, Carson) and oversized staff/writer rooms.

7. Broader Entertainment and Pop Culture

• [35:39–38:29]
  • Discussion on "The Mandalorian" (new Star Wars movie): considered appealing only for children, simplistic writing, lacking cross-generational appeal.
    • "[‘Grogu’ is] a freaking cute baby Yoda. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How long has baby Yoda been around? They're appealing to children now. That's it." – Rob Carson [37:05]
  • Freshness in filmmaking praised (James Cameron’s "Avatar").
• Brief look at new movie "Boosters" – an anti-capitalist but original, well-executed heist story [38:53]

8. Amusing and Notable Moments

• Rob fantasizes about a "late-night enema" for Washington, and riffs on politicians' wealth.
• [41:47] Rep. Jason Smith’s tongue-in-cheek "raise your hand if you're a billionaire" exchange with small business owners—making a point about tax policy.
  • None were billionaires, challenging the "tax the billionaires" rhetoric.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Rob Carson on political corruption:
  • "We have the world's largest crime family in the United States of America. It's the Democrat Party. It is worse than we could have ever imagined." [02:53]
• Colin McDonald (Assistant Attorney General):
  • "If you’re a fraudster, do not walk away from this press conference. Run. Because we are coming after you." [05:33]
• Brandon Gill:
  • "It's the beginning in Minnesota of our efforts to root out the pervasive fraud upon the program." [06:19]
• Amy Bach (on learning her prison sentence):
  • "It's shocking, it's disappointing, it is hurtful." [17:21]
• Josh Hawley:
  • "This is a pattern. This is what the Democrats want for America…They are willing to destroy this country in order to stay in power." [20:03]
• On Colbert’s decline:
  • Christian Toto: "He was smug, he was self-satisfied. He was lecturing the audience. He knew better than anyone…the jokes on the show last night…the gags were tepid at best. Weak tea, a couple of smiles, perhaps a lot of groans." [27:56, 30:47]
• Rob Carson, about guest diversity:
  • "One Republican, Liz Cheney, as appealing as watching a turtle cross the road. Fifteen times the number of times Bernie Sanders was on the show." [32:21]
• Rep. Jason Smith:
  • "Raise your hand if you're a billionaire." [41:54]
  • (No hands.)
  • "Did you benefit from the one big beautiful bill?"
  • (Yes.)
  • "That's crazy." [42:14]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Fraud investigations and government corruption: 04:30–13:00
• Amy Bach interview and discussion: 17:21–18:00
• Josh Hawley on political accountability: 19:09–20:22
• Media and Democrat Party cover-ups: 15:07–16:30
• The Colbert Show’s decline (with Christian Toto): 24:15–34:46
• Late-night TV critiques and comparisons: 26:31–32:27
• Pop culture segment—Star Wars, Mandalorian: 35:39–38:29
• Rep. Jason Smith’s Congressional testimony ("Are you a billionaire?"): 41:47–42:34

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Tone and Language

The episode maintains Carson’s signature mix of biting humor, exasperation, and populist outrage, with a satirical edge and a penchant for showmanship (musical parodies, pop culture riffs, and playful banter—especially with guest Christian Toto).

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Conclusion

This episode of The Rob Carson Show uses humor, statistics, interviews, and lively discussion to spotlight government fraud, celebrity political hypocrisy, and the collapse of late-night TV’s mainstream relevance. Whether lampooning politicians or critiquing TV’s drift into partisanship, Carson unapologetically takes aim at what he sees as a corrupt establishment, and invites his audience to laugh, rage, and take note.

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For more, visit:

• [Rob Carson’s What in the World – Newsmax TV]
• [Christian Toto’s Podcast: Hollywood in Toto – YouTube/Spotify/iTunes]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald]

The 15 arrest today netting $90 million is a very important symbol because it's a shot across the bow. And we're all going to say this in our different ways but I'm telling you if you're a fraudster do not walk away from this press conference run because we are coming after you. We have lots of weapons to be able to use in order to accomplish that.

[Rob Carson]

This is Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald. Talk about the fraud here. And then also we got some audio about the Amy Bach convicted mastermind but behind the $250 million Feeding Our Future scandal. Sentenced to 41 years in prison. Sentenced to 40 or 41 years in prison and she's going to miss her children growing up and everything. I hope it was worth it, I really do. I was hoping it was worth it. Here is Colin McDonald talking about this just being the beginning of the arrests,

[Brandon Gill]

our investigations and the culmination today in these charges against these 15 defendants is not the end in Minnesota. It's not the beginning of the end in Minnesota. It's the beginning in Minnesota of our efforts to root out the pervasive fraud upon the program.

[Rob Carson]

You know if you had this amount of bank robbery don't you suppose they would go after everybody? Don't you suppose everybody want everybody to get those bank robbers? They went in, they stole billions of dollars from, from banks but apparently when it's tax money it's not a big deal. It's a big dang deal. And these people need to, to rest their bloody lives in prison. And if they are from outside of the country they need to be denaturalized and deported, penniless back to the hellhole they came from.

[Brandon Gill]

There. The state run Medicaid programs there in Minnesota. Some of these programs started just six years ago with an estimate of $600,000. That would be the bill to the taxpayer over the course of six years. That bill ran up to over $400 million for some of these programs. And some of them just completely.

[Rob Carson]

And the people in charge knew about it. Nobody is that incompetent. California, you've got New York, you've got Minnesota. All of these states, Ohio, they, the people in governance there knew every damned thing that was happening. You cannot be this incompetent. You cannot be this incompetent if you were running companies. Companies don't lose billions of dollars without, you know, a complete reinvention of the company, a complete gutting of management. If something like this were. But in a company, are you kidding me?

[Brandon Gill]

Shut down because the shelves were emptied, the stores were looted. There was nothing left, nothing left to go to the vulnerable patients, the needy families, the homeless in some instances who had a program for them to help them find housing. The fraudsters took the vast bulk of the money belonging to these programs. We're just getting started. We have a whole of government approach to root out the fraud.

[Rob Carson]

It's got to be, it's got to be, you know, it's got to be Kurt Russell in Tombstone. You know, I'm coming. I'm bringing hell with me. That's what it's gotta be. Here's a little bit more from Colin McDonald. Because in the state of Minnesota, the government is not releasing records people like with tax, with SNAP benefits. Because SNAP is a gigantic, gigantic magnet for fraud. I mean, guys who've run their little grocery stores. Million dollars of fraud taken from SNAP benefits.

[Brandon Gill]

So it's very obvious to any honest broker that this type of fraud escalating in Minnesota could have only happened if the people responsible for doling out the money were willfully blind to the conduct that was ongoing in Minnesota. That's obvious to anyone who looks at this with a.

[Rob Carson]

This means Tim Roots and Keith Ellison and Ilhan Omar. I can't wait to the day that she's indicted, denaturalized and deported.

[Brandon Gill]

Clean slate. What I would say is this, that

[Rob Carson]

if Minnesota, she had a winery that didn't sell wine. She said she was worth $30 million. Then when that was made public, she suddenly said she was worth $18 million or $18,000. And her husband is crooked. And Keith Ellison was business partners with him. He's the AG in the state of Minnesota. My God. What do you need? You want to spell this out for you?

[Brandon Gill]

ODA is interested in cooperating with us, then they should open their books. All of these programs. Open the books and allow us, allow us to have access to the documentary evidence that we need. To prove these offenses. They've not done that. One example is the SNAP program, funded by usda. Millions and millions of dollars. We've asked them for those records. They're suing us to prevent us from accessing those records.

[Rob Carson]

And also voting rules. Democrat Party's keeping that from us and everything. Because the Democrat Party is the world's largest criminal crime family. It is. And it's worse than we could have ever, ever, ever imagined. It is heartbreaking because this is a big damn deal because you and I follow the rules and bust our butts. And you know, honestly, I look at what, what I pay in taxes, you know, and I don't have much left over. I'm paying, you know, helping my daughter with school. I'm paying my wife a little something something, you know, every month. I've got rent here, I've got my car payment. I never miss a payment on anything. And then after the end of it, I'm going to be working another decade before I can even consider retiring. Before I can even consider retiring. And if I would have just a little bit, you know, cut my taxes a little bit so I could put a little bit on the side. In the meantime, you got these oligarchs who have made themselves filthy bloody rich. Filthy bloody rich. You got Gavin Newsom's buying an $8 million house. His wife has got NGOs and she, like her documentary is mandated. And the schools, they just get rich on us. They get rich on us. Bernie Sanders has four friggin houses. He's a socialist. Nancy Pelosi is worth $400 million. That's an oligarchy. That's an oligarchy. People who rule us. And they don't build anything. They don't make anything. What they do is they punish people who build things and make things. They punish people who are inventive. They punish people who hire people. They punished them and it is about time that a baptism by fire on the way. A Midwestern mom, this woman just got 41 years in prison. She, I got the interview where she found out that she was facing up to 50 years in prison for this, this feeding the kids, feeding our future $250 million scandal. And she, by the way, says there's no way Elon Omar didn't know about it. Duh. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey, guys, it's Carson. You know, my signature phrase don't catch is stupid when it comes to Medicare. That's easier said than done. Medicare is overly Complex with thousands of plans, hidden gotchas in the fine print and rules nobody really explains to you. Many people just pick something and hope for the best. That's why you need to know about Chapter. They're the only advisor that looks at every plan in the country, matches your doctors, your prescriptions and your situation to a plan that fits your needs. When your call with Chapter is done, you know your doctors are covered, your prescriptions are matched, and you go from I hope I did this right to I know I did. That, my friends, is peace of mind. A call with Chapter is free for my audience and there's no pressure to sign up. Call Chapter today. Here's a number. 27 Medicare. That's 27 Medicare. 27 Medicare. 4 Chapter. No pressure. What's your excuse? Call 27 Medicare. And don't catch the stupid yourself. Call 27 Medicare today.

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[Luke Rosiak]

And before we get started, I want to particularly recognize Luke Rosiak sitting here on my right, reporter for the Daily Wire, who's done absolutely phenomenal work uncovering a massive fraud scheme in Ohio. What's. I think the most amazing part about it is that what he was able to do is go through publicly available data. This is data that was released about a year ago, right through the efforts that the Doge did go through publicly available data. It took you about two months to uncover this massive fraud scheme.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And you know, none of the reporters in Columbus or anywhere bothered to look this up because it all benefits Democrats. This is very obvious about all of it. We now know the reason why for months they called Elon Musk a Nazi was because the Democrat Party knew that this was all going to be uncovered. Well, guess what? We got it we understand it now. You're being exposed. I hope you feel good about labeling someone a Nazi. I remember going to one of those idiotic Elon Musk as a Nazi rallies in Kansas City and facing these fools. I brought a good buddy of mine. He's a Jewish guy, and he wore his Star of David on his shirt, and they were calling him a Nazi. These broken, broken, pathetic people. Bought and paid for. Shame on you. Shame on you for just doing the heavy lifting for the Democrat. Filthy, rotten, corrupt political machine. You will never win. The Democrat Party will never win. You are broken. You are on the wrong side of God and good. That said, that's what they were covering up. The Democrat Party was working with George Soros, Neville Singham, sending out their minions, calling because of Doge, calling Elon Musk a Nazi, making fun of him, saying that bringing the chainsaw on the. On the stage at CPAC was somehow an act of violence. It wasn't. It was awesome. It kicked butt. It was fantastic. I was there. But they. They just robbed us blind in the meantime. And they were just caterwauling and screeching so they wouldn't be discovered. So ridiculous. This is Amy Bach, Midwest mom who oversaw $250 million in Somali fraud. She got 41 years in prison. She will never see her children grow up. I hope it was worth it. I really do, man. I really do. 41. Here she is being interviewed in prison. This is before she. You know, Amy, we just. Sorry that she did not realize. She did not realize that she was facing 50 years in prison. Listen to her. You know, Amy, we just learned that prosecutors are asking for you to serve 50 years in prison. What is your reaction to that?

[Amy Bach]

Well, that's actually the first time I'm hearing that, so I guess it's. It's shocking, it's disappointing, it is hurtful.

[Rob Carson]

Do you think you'll have a chance to speak at sentencing? Will you take that opportunity?

[Amy Bach]

No, if I'll have a chance, I would absolutely take an opportunity, if it's available.

[Rob Carson]

What would you say?

[Amy Bach]

It's a really good question. It's something I've worked through in my

[Brandon Gill]

head,

[Amy Bach]

that this is such a complicated situation, much more so than.

[Rob Carson]

Doesn't matter. You're guilty. You're going to jail for the rest of your life. When you get out, you're gonna be 81 years old. Your children's grand. Your grandchildren be in their 20s. I hope it was worth it. I really do. She was a founder and executive director of Feeding our future nonprofit $250 million just stolen. One of the restaurants where they did $8 million. Elon Omar held her election victory speech in the restaurant. Yeah, she's a part of it. So Bakkett argued Feeding Our Future provided meals worth 80 to $132 million. Blah. Was all bullcrap. $243 million was stolen. That included saying she she had given her boyfriend a million dollars for renovating Feeding Our Futures offices in that didn't wasn't used 600,000 in taxpayer cash on treats while spending time with her then boyfriend, 41 year old Malcolm Watson. According to search warrant filed by the state of Minnesota, blah blah, blah. He was not charged with the fraud. Watson's income was around $1 million between 20 and 2022. With funds coming from work at his significant other business as well as own remodeling firm. Sure. And she was paying him off. Wow. Here's the positive. Josh Hawley is saying that Keith Ellison and Tim need to go to jail.

[Josh Hawley]

Well, I want to see Keith Ellison and Tim Walls both held accountable for what they did here. Tim Walls covered it up. Keith Ellison took kickbacks. You mentioned Feeding our Futures just a second ago. Let's not forget Keith Ellison had a meeting in his office with the Feeding Our Futures fraudsters. They asked him, Kaylee, to please, please help them get the investigators off their backs. He agreed to help them. And then just a few days later, he took thousands of dollars in campaign contributions. All of this is public. It's been reported. I confronted him about it a couple of months ago under oath. This guy ought to be in prison.

[Rob Carson]

100%. And then let's not forget the hundreds of whistleblowers who tried to tell the truth and were ruined by Tim Vance.

[Josh Hawley]

100%, I agree. And listen, those whistleblowers went to Keith Ellison's office. He's the Attorney General. They went to him in Minnesota. He turned them away. I mean the whistleblowers have said. We tried to go and warn him. Ellison had no interest. Then later on, Ellison is taking thousands of dollars from these fraudsters. Here's the deal.

[Rob Carson]

We got more than that.

[Josh Hawley]

This is a pattern. This is what the Democrats want for America. They want open borders where you let in all of illegals with terrorist ties. They want to take your money in order to finance it. Then they want to get kickbacks, get rich off of it and get reelected over and over again. They are willing to destroy this country in order to stay in power. That's the Democrats plan.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. People like Marjorie Taylor Greene left office just a couple years after being in Congress worth 20 million bucks. How's that happen? I don't know. But I hope Tim Waltz goes to prison with Keith Ellison.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Tim Waltz is not running. It was just announced. Tim knew that he had no chance. He surely would get trounced. And he ought to be in prison.

[Rob Carson]

He'll be popular.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And Keith Ellison too.

[Rob Carson]

He's got soft little hands.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

20 years in the slammer for making license plates. Plus both of them should do spend

[Rob Carson]

the rest of their lives in jail. Hell yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

He let fraud run rampant. A finger didn't lift in the state of Minnesota. It's caused quite a rift. They want Tim and prison.

[Rob Carson]

I do too.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

For a long, long time.

[Rob Carson]

Cuz he's a corrupt. You know.

[Josh Hawley]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And punish Elon Omar for each and every crime.

[Rob Carson]

Why do you suppose that Kamala wanted him on the table?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

He was just a baby. His mama told him. Tim.

[Rob Carson]

Oh yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

One day you will find yourself way out on a limb. They'll lock you up in prison.

[Rob Carson]

Political donations should be your biggest. Like 35 million bucks after they put him on a ticket. Isn't that weird?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

And when they throw you in there,

[Rob Carson]

no one will shed a tear. I ain't gonna shed a tear over here. I'm going to jail. I will celebrate the day that he is frog marched out of the governor's mansion in in handcuffs. Coming up, Christian Toto joins us on the other side to talk about Stephen Colbert's terrible, terrible legacy. Don't go anywhere. So many people living with everyday pain think they're just stuck with it. And it is what it is, but it doesn't have to be. Let me tell you about George Morgan and his relief factor story. George is a hard working guy. Spends 10 hours a day in his garbage truck. It's a tough job. Made even harder because he was dealing with sore right knee that he couldn't bend. But here's the amazing part. George started taking relief factor and it changed his life. He said, and I quote, I can bend my knee again with very little pain. If you're living with aches and pains, see how relief factor, a daily drug free supplement could help you feel and live better every day. Give their three week quick start a try only $19.95 in a few weeks or even days. Feel the difference relief factor can make. You don't have to be stuck living with pain. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800 for relief. That's relieffactor.com or 800 for relief. Hey guys, it's Carson for Ghostbed I am sleeping better than I've ever slept in my entire life. I used to think a mattress was just furniture, but I got a ghostbed. Ghostbed doesn't build mattresses like furniture. They build engineered sleep systems. Their beds are serious health equipment beds designed for relief and recovery, not looks. Your body should be healing while you sleep, not fighting for comfort. I noticed immediately my first night on a ghost bed I slept for 10 hours. If you're waking up stiff, tossing and turning, sleeping hot, even reaching for a pain reliever before bed, hoping tonight will be different, that's not aging. That's your mattress talking. Here's another thing I love about Ghostbed. You get 101 nights to try it at home. If you don't like the difference, you send it back risk free. Ghostbed is currently having their memorial day sale plus an extra 10% off for my audience. Go to ghostbed.comcarson and use promo code carson ghostbed.comcarson promo code carson for the sleep of a lifetime

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

the Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere. Go to Newsmax.com listen for details.

[Christian Toto]

As somebody who grew up watching Jay Leno and David Letterman, certainly it is the end of an era. It's the changing viewer consumption habits I think as well is not that late night can't be successful. Greg I think in April had the fourth most popular show on cable news. So there is a market for that party. But I just don't think Stephen Colbert necessarily resonated when it was so so cutting against President Trump night after night. And that just alienated a huge segment of the American people.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, and lost a lot of money, by the way. The show was losing $40 million a year. It's amazing they held on that long, to be quite honest. Joining us to talk about this and so much more, Christian Toto hollywoodintoto.com Make it a favorite on your browser hollywoodintoto.com, christian Toto how are you today, sir?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I'm good. You know, my podcast does not lose $40 million a year, so I'm very proud of it.

[Rob Carson]

You're lucky if it made $40 a month. Actually, if it's a podcast,

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

that's the fun part about it. But yes, I'm not at a loss.

[Rob Carson]

I like to say that your podcast is successful, but generally when it comes to if you hear that I've got a podcast, it general you do it on the side or you're unemployed. It's kind of like waiting tables. But I do want to share some audio with you with regard to Stephen Colbert, Rob Finnerty did some commentary. I thought actually he opened his show with it last night. I will play the audio and get your take.

[Rob Finnerty]

I know you're not here to say I told you so, but would you like to? It's democracy in crisis.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Rob Finnerty]

Under Trump.

[Amy Bach]

Yes.

[Rob Finnerty]

Is that a fancy way of saying I told you so? Because you'd be allowed. I have but one question to the latest officer. Are you going to beat this guy?

[Rob Carson]

Yes. Okay.

[Media Research Center Analyst]

So according to the media Research Center, 99% of late night comedy guests between January and July of last year were left wing. And Stephen Colbert was number one between January of 2022 and July of 2025. So three years. Stephen Colbert. 176 elected Democrats on his show and he had one Republican, and that Republican was Liz Cheney.

[Rob Carson]

You can't have a late night show and consider those people and Liz Cheney a guest. People want to watch.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Listen, once in a while you do get a politician who is engaging and funny and smart and a lot of fun to be around. And by the way, that describes President Trump. Trump. But generally speaking, that's not their skill set. And it's not supposed to be their skill set. They're not meant to be engaging and fun and humorous. But when you put them on your show, it's a drag. It pushes people away. It becomes just a kind of a back slapping affair and it's not interesting. You know, I think one of the bottom lines of the whole Colbert story is this show cost too much money. Why does it need 25 writers to write that stuff? Terrible monologues. It doesn't make sense.

[Rob Carson]

200 staffers for the late show. Okay, you know what? You know what my staff is on my TV show? One. Yeah. One person. Me. I do all the. I choose all the video. I write the script, I run the camera. I do all. I send it to a. I send it to two guys to clear it and then I have a guy who edits it. There you go. But 200 staffers, 22 writers, dude, 22 writers. I write all my material. I gotta get in. Jim Gossett, honestly, for a half hour show or an hour show, that's, that's like, it's like the license bureau. You got twice as many people that need to be unemployed.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

But also, look at the results. Those, I mean, the jokes on the show last night, the last show, the last late show, the gags were tepid at best. Weak tea, a couple of smiles, perhaps a lot of groans. They had celebrities in the audience who Were cutting of interrupting his monologue. Like Paul Rudd and Tim Meadows and even they weren't funny. Those are funny people. If you can't make Paul Rudd funny, you got a problem.

[Rob Carson]

Here he is with Neil Degrasse Tyson last night actually kind of giving Greg Gutfeld some props. You see, the fabric of the universe is underpinned by an immutable set of physical laws. Two contradictory realities cannot coexist without rupturing the space time continuum.

[Rob Finnerty]

Like what?

[Rob Carson]

Well, for instance, if a show is number one on late night and it also gets canceled, they canceled Gutfeld. There you go. So, yeah, I gave a Gutfeld a little bit of props there. Kind of pointing out that Gutfeld's kicking his butt there. I guess that was. Was that a highlight?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I guess if you're scrambling for highlights, you got to pick that one perhaps. And Gutfeld show, not only is it not ideologically rigid, that's some really good debates from their libertarians on the shows. Yeah, more traditionally conservatives. But it's a smaller staff, they've got a smaller footprint. You've got to be lean and mean in technology in Hollywood these days. Otherwise you have people like Rob Carson who are going to eat your lunch. It just is.

[Rob Carson]

You know this. Even the live stream of this radio broadcast is bigger than the audience on air on radio stations. We're going to add, we're going to be adding affiliates. We got as many people who watch a lot of cable shows watching my live stream, thank you very much. Here's Gutfeld last night talking about Colbert.

[Jason Smith]

Tomorrow is the series finale of the Late show with Stephen Colbert.

[Rob Finnerty]

I was just talking about it this

[Jason Smith]

morning with my uber driver, Stephen Colbert.

[Rob Carson]

You know the reason why? I'll tell you why it works. Because Gutfeld is a political commentator and he does comedy. His show is about politics to some degree, dips his toes a little bit in popular culture, invites other people on the show, brings comedians on the show. It's a low budget affair. He doesn't have major Hollywood stars. He has no band. He has no band. But you know what to expect from Gutfeld. Colbert took the baton from David Letterman. Jack Parr gave the baton to Johnny Carson. Johnny Carson gave the baton to Jay Leno. Jay Leno gave the baton to Jimmy Fallon. Colbert got the baton and he beat the snot out of the show. That's what he did. He killed the show. He could not. He. It was the way he was. He could not. He's like a venomous snake biting itself, Right?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah. And also, you know, one of the Things that's really important that he was smug, he was self satisfied. He was lecturing the audience. He knew better than anyone. And Johnny Carson, even though he was a genius at what he did, and I don't use the term loosely, he was self deprecating. It was natural him, he would, he would rather make fun of himself than do anything else else. And he'd rather prop up his guest and make him or her look good than didn't pat himself on the back. And that's 100%.

[Rob Carson]

You have to know, you have to know when the, your counter can take you down as the host. Okay. You can have somebody like, like when I marry Walter on everybody comments about it, you know, kick my butt with one comment. And you know what I do? I let it ride. I don't, I just, if she gets me, let it ride. That's what you do do. That's what you do. You've got to be willing to, you are not so arrogant, so smug so this that you can't be knocked down a notch or two and the audience can celebrate and you go, okay, okay, you got me. Here's some other statistics that are kind of interesting. 95% the number of jokes that targeted Trump or conservatives after CBS announced in 2025 he would be leaving the air. 100% the percentage of guests who were liberal on Colbert show after his cancellation was announced. One Republican, Liz Cheney, as appealing as watching a turtle cross the road. Fifteen times the number of times Bernie Sanders was on the show. What in the hell is interesting or entertaining? I've never heard him say anything funny ever or entertaining ever, ever, ever. Why would Bernie Sanders be a guest?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

He's getting to it. He's just warming up right now. He needed 35 years in the public arena.

[Rob Carson]

I've got some more statistics and audio on the other side of the break. We're going to cover other things as well. On HollywoodNtoto.com HollywoodAndToto.com with Christian Totos. Take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show,

[Luke Rosiak]

The

[Media Research Center Analyst]

first late night host to come down with a wonderful affliction called Trump Derangement Syndrome.

[Rob Finnerty]

Our money is under attack. Thanks to the Trump administration, Donald Trump may be destroying civil society. He's reportedly planning a military parade through D.C. for his own 79th birthday. A military parade for a dictator's birthday.

[Rob Carson]

After.

[Rob Finnerty]

After a bizarre and vicious campaign fueled by a desperate need not to go to jail, Donald Trump has won the 2024 election.

[Media Research Center Analyst]

And when Papa Fauci told Stephen to tell everyone to get vaccinated. Stephen listened again.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Wow.

[Rob Carson]

I just, I just.

[Media Research Center Analyst]

And you wonder why this guy lost his show. Imagine losing your boss's $40 million a year and keeping your job for 11 years.

[Rob Carson]

That's Rob Finnerty on Newsmax. Rob Finner day. I'll tell you what, he is really really good and he did a, a big rant on this Hollywood in Toto's Christian Toto. The. The number of times by the way Bill Maher appeared on. On, on Stephen Colbert show. You want to guess?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Oh gosh. Under five.

[Rob Carson]

None. None. He was never invited on Bill Maher. And listen Bill Maher is a liberal and I use his, I use highlights from his show all the time. I usually don't catch the entire show but at least he, he is open minded enough to invite the you know, opposition on. And I will tell you he also skirts. He comes across from the left to occasionally spew some common sense. That makes a big difference. It's. It's a very forgiving thing. Conservatives like me when you do that, bro.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, not in the same way. I applaud what Bill Maher does. And by the way that whole Silly Strike Force 5, that group of other fellow late night talk show hosts who think and sound the same way. Bill Maher is not part of that group. They wouldn't have him.

[Rob Carson]

No. I think they're insufferable. I thought all of them were suffering. Particularly Seth Meyers. I never understood James Cord. I understand. Very talented guy. Very talented guy. Seth Meyers just completely insufferable. I can't even imagine why he has a show because nobody's watching. There are more people who stream my show every day than watch him. I know this number of times CNN Jake's tapper appeared on the show versus Bill Maher. You want to guess? 15, 14. Dude. Yeah. You know they're. The days of Johnny Carson are over and ever getting 20 million people per show are over. However. However I think there's a place for late night television in some way shape or form. Streaming etc. Enough about that. Let's talk about other stuff. Mandalorian, the latest what Star wars movie. You say it's kind of childish. What's up?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

It's pretty rough. Yeah, it's the. Obviously they made a TV show about it. It was pretty successful. It's one of the rare Star wars projects in recent years that mostly clicked with audiences. Of course they had Gina Carano there. They booted her off the show because they the fact that she had some free speech rights and then nothing really happened. After a while they said, let's just make a movie instead of making more TV episodes. They did that. It's out this weekend. The Mandalorian and Groot Grogu. That's the little baby Yoda esque creature, which is a puppet. Very cute.

[Christian Toto]

Very.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I get it. It's appealing in a way, but the movie itself, it's non stop action. If you like action, you may enjoy that element of it. But it's really dumb. It's really not well put together in any significant fashion and it doesn't really want you to go to the theater. It's. It just. It isn't that kind of product. And listen, if you stumbled into the theater, didn't know Star wars didn't get any sort of backing about what this is the context, you'd be like, I don't know. It kept me engaged for a couple hours. It's all right. But the writing is sophomoric and the plot is very simplistic.

[Rob Carson]

And do you know why? Do you know why it is? Because I think they're trying to sing to kitty lady level. They're trying to bring in kids, you know, I mean, I think the rest of us adults are kind of tired of baby Yoda. Aren't we a little tired of baby Yoda? Right. You know what? Honestly, we're tired of baby Yoda. Great. It's a freaking cute baby yoga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How long has baby Yoda been around? They're, they're, they're appealing to children now. That's it.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

That's all the original movies appeal to everybody. And now listen, a lot of kids grew up watching those movies. And then they become him, the filmmakers, because they were so enamored with Star wars and the fantasy and the excitement and the arc of the characters and the heroism. But now you just have kitty level content that you'll watch and you'll forget the next day.

[Rob Carson]

I would say that. I don't know. I guess it would take a hell of a movie to get me back to the Star wars franchise. I was in elementary school when the first one came out. I'll never forget. It was revolutionary. It's like R2D2. That's crazy droids. What? I mean, it was like, it was so revolution. It was revolutionary. It was revolutionary, but it's been beaten to death. And I don't know what's gonna take. I mean, they've animated it, they've done everything they can with it. I'm not sure what they can do to reinvent Star wars at this point, I don't know.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

I agree. You know, I give James Cameron the director credit when he makes a new Avatar movie. They're kind of dumb too, but visually they're fascinating. He brings up new ideas and new themes, new technologies, new concepts that at the very least, even if you're not loving the movie, you think, okay, there's something fresh here, something original. I haven't seen this before. I know when you watch a Star wars movie now, it's like, okay, you know, lightsabers, you got blasters, you got a job of the Hutt type character.

[Rob Carson]

Dude, I just figured it out. I just figured it out. I know, I know what would bring me back. Sydney Sweeney dressed in that bikini that Princess Leia wore. Dude. And they could chain her to Rosie o' Donnell instead of Jabba. Oh, my God. You have a story from Barry Worth. I love Boosters. Weird, wonderful, fearlessly original. What's that all about?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yeah, it's a new movie. It's about people who go into high fashion stores. They steal the stuff and then they sell it on their own. Listen, this is my guest critic and he's a great question critic. This is an anti consumerism, probably an anti capitalist movie, but is, it's very imaginative, it's very fresh, it's very different, it's very novel, good performances. So I want to, I want to grade movies as they are. If they're anti capitalist, I will not agree with them per se. But if there's some originality and wit and humor and excitement, I got to have the critics give it some credit. So I haven't seen it personally, but that's my guest critics take on it and we'll have to wait and see.

[Rob Carson]

It could just be Sydney Sweeney in the bikini just doing aerobic and I would watch two hours of it. Chris de Toto, great to have you on, brother. Where can people find your glorious podcast?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yep, you can find on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes, your favorite podcast provider, the Hollywood in Toto podcast.

[Rob Carson]

All right, we'll talk to you soon. Have a great Memorial Day weekend. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Come on acdc. Couple of things here before we go. John Kennedy unveiled that California Medicare covers things that you, you might not expect if you're Catholic. I don't know if you're down with this, but apparently it covers exorcism.

[Todd Blanche]

Some states like California, I don't want to paint with put too broad a brush. It's not everybody in California state government, but It's a lot of them. They see this as free money. Money, don't they?

[Rob Carson]

They're not paying for it.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Yes.

[Todd Blanche]

Isn't it a fact that, for example, Medicaid in California will pay a provider to provide tribal prayers? I looked all this up.

[Media Research Center Analyst]

I mean, I'll accept that.

[Rob Carson]

I didn't know that, but. Yes, that.

[Todd Blanche]

That California will actually pay a health care provider. I didn't know this was a medical expertise. To pay for exorcism. Is that right?

[Rob Carson]

I'll accept that center. That's Todd Blanche going really seriously, you know, I'm thinking that maybe that should be handled by the church and paid for by the church. You know, I'm just saying. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not so sure about demonic possession. Although if you would have seen my daughter at age 2, you'd go, oh, my God, her face. You see the end of the Incredibles when Jack Jackson. Jack turns face, turns red, and then he gets catches on fire. That was my daughter. That was my daughter. One of the best exchanges from a Congressman Jason Smith, because the. The Democrat Party says that the big beautiful bill only impacts and affects billionaires. Here's Jason Smith from Missouri with a brilliant exchange with small business owners asking them if they're billionaires.

[Jason Smith]

Every single Democrat in the House and the Senate voted against these proposals

[Amy Bach]

because it.

[Jason Smith]

They said it was helping billionaires. So I want to ask a question. Raise your hand if you're a billionaire.

[Rob Carson]

No hands go up.

[Jason Smith]

There's what?

[Rob Carson]

Just as much as small business.

[Jason Smith]

Mr. Sanders, you're not a billionaire.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

No, no, I'm not.

[Jason Smith]

But you benefited from the one big beautiful bill.

[Rob Carson]

Is it possible? Yes, sir.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Wow.

Yeah, I know.

[Jason Smith]

Mr. Stifo, are you a billionaire?

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

No. No.

[Jason Smith]

Did you benefit from the one big beautiful bill?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Guest Commentator]

Wow.

[Rob Carson]

That's crazy.

[Jason Smith]

Michalik, are you a billionaire? You own a bunch of restaurants.

[Rob Carson]

I am not a billionaire.

[Todd Blanche]

Wow.

[Jason Smith]

Did you benefit from the one big beautiful bill?

[Rob Carson]

Yes. Our employees, I love that stuff. And Jason Smith is fantastic. I think he's only been a few years, but he's from the state of Missouri. That's going to do it for the show. Guys, check out my. My TV show. Rob Carson's what in the World Again. It's on tomorrow afternoon at 3, Sunday evening at 8:30, and then it runs on into. And have a glorious weekend with your families. I'm taking Monday off. We'll be doing a best of show. But I just want to thank you for everything. God bless you. God bless our military serving and those particularly who have died for our country and died after service. You can't hear me, but I thank you from the bottom of my heart. God bless you. America is founded our military, of course. And until Tuesday, do not catch the stupid. Happy Memorial Day Day, guys. Talk to you soon.