From Mar-a-Lago to Melbourne: The Receipts Are In

Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: From Mar-a-Lago to Melbourne: The Receipts Are In
Date: December 17, 2025

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of The Rob Carson Show delivers a fast-paced, blend of humor and hard-hitting conservative commentary. Centered around recent revelations of alleged government overreach—particularly the FBI's handling of the Mar-a-Lago raid and the resurgence of the Clinton Foundation-Uranium One scandal—the show also dives deep into international concerns, especially rising antisemitism in Australia following October 7th. With legal expert Thane Rosenbaum as a featured guest, the discussion spans from American politics to global trends, all with Rob’s trademark irreverent style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The FBI and the Mar-a-Lago Raid

Timestamps: 04:25 – 10:22

• Revelations: Newly released FBI and DOJ documents show internal dissent over the August 2022 Mar-a-Lago raid. Some claim weak evidence was “red flagged” before the raid, and the FBI wanted more negotiation, but DOJ pushed for a show of force.
• Civil Liberties: Multiple guests, including John Solomon and John Ratcliffe, allege the Justice Department violated Trump’s rights and that the staged photo of documents was used to mislead the public.
• Consequences: Harmeet Dhillon (cited by John Solomon) explores possibilities for criminal charges for civil rights violations.
• Whistleblowers: Discussion about internal FBI opposition being crushed under political pressure, with some whistleblowers now speaking out.

"The Justice Department said they weren't interested in making accommodations... The FBI told the Justice Department, the Biden Justice Department, that it didn't have probable cause... They didn't have true evidence..."
— John Solomon (05:45)

"Those top secret classified sheets... were placed there by the FBI. What Jack Smith admitted in court this week was that... they mishandled the classified documents and misrepresented those to the court."
— John Ratcliffe (07:41)

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2. The Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, and Pay-for-Play

Timestamps: 11:12 – 16:31

• Overview: Newly declassified documents bring renewed attention to the Clinton Foundation’s links to Uranium One and suggest millions in donations from Russian oligarchs followed U.S. government approval of uranium sales.
• Key Players: Frank Giustra and Ian Telfer are highlighted as major donors with direct financial interests.
• Shut Down Investigations: The episode blames Deputy FBI Director Andy McCabe for shutting down investigations into the Foundation.
• Epstein Connection: Mike Benz raises Epstein’s alleged role in helping establish the Clinton Foundation and his repeated White House visits.

“Jeffrey Epstein helped establish the Clinton Foundation… visited the Clinton White House 17 times during the Clinton presidency...”
— Mike Benz (13:09)

“A huge proportion of Clinton Foundation money just goes to pay salary and benefits... this was like a direct payoff.”
— Mike Benz (15:35)

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3. Election Integrity and Media Suppression

Timestamps: 16:31 – 18:13

• Red Mirage/Blue Shift: Discussion of 2020 election scenarios and the proactive censorship deployed by federal agencies and social media to quell questions about the outcome.
• Rob’s Experience: Rob shares being deplatformed immediately after the 2020 election, reinforcing his argument that legitimate scrutiny was silenced.

“Any ability to talk about the 2020 election was shut down. Why do you suppose that was?”
— Rob Carson (16:31)

“…it was to pre-censor anything that might question or quote ‘delegitimize’ the upcoming miraculous come-from-behind victory the day after…”
— Mike Benz (17:02)

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4. Rising Antisemitism in Australia and the West

Timestamps: 21:27 – 37:53

a. Interview: Thane Rosenbaum on Australia and Global Trends

• October 7 Aftermath: Wave of antisemitic incidents in Australia, including arson and violent rhetoric. Authorities and politicians accused of appeasement for electoral reasons.
• Failure of Assimilation: Rosenbaum criticizes Western multiculturalism and identity politics that prioritized group identity over assimilation, leading to communities that feel empowered to disregard host nation values.
• Historical Parallels: Multiple references to 1939 Germany and early events leading to the Holocaust.
• Broader Crisis: The trend is positioned as part of a “war” between radical Islam and the civilized world, with the West hampered by tolerance taken to extremes.
• Political Trends: The rise of politicians leveraging anti-Israel rhetoric, accusations of “suicidal empathy,” and the paradox of groups like “Queers for Palestine.”

"The very next day... they were shouting 'gas the Jews' in the shadow of the Opera House there in Sydney..."
— Rob Carson (22:16)

“Western societies... basically said to Muslims, your identity matters more than your assimilation... And now we're seeing... the consequences.”
— Thane Rosenbaum (25:12)

“There is something that’s really perverse about queers for Palestine. Homosexuals would last in a Sharia Law society ten minutes...”
— Thane Rosenbaum (32:17)

“On October 7, 2023, the minute the western world heard the words ‘beheadings, torching babies, and gang raping girls,’ it should have been over.”
— Thane Rosenbaum (33:54)

b. Societal Reactions and “Useful Idiots”

• Political Strategy: Carson argues leftists manipulate “useful idiots” to further agendas; alliances with Islamist politicians are tactical, not genuine.
• Self-Loathing & Suicidal Empathy: Discussion on people supporting movements ideologically or economically opposed to their own well-being, leading to paradoxical political coalitions.

c. Call to Resistance

• Defense of Western Values: Both Rob and Thane urge unity among Americans and Westerners to stand up for Jewish communities and resist what they see as radical Islam’s encroachments.

"It's going to take homeboys, hillbillies, and Hebrews... We're going to have to come together and defend our Jewish brothers and sisters."
— Rob Carson (35:51)

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5. Closing Segments: Minnesota Scandals & Calls for Accountability

Timestamps: 38:03 – 39:54

• Minnesota Fraud: Discussion on massive welfare and education fraud among Somali immigrants, tying it to local politicians such as Ilhan Omar.
• Immigration & Assimilation: Strong calls for deportation and prosecution of those involved in fraud and for those unwilling to assimilate.

"I think that Ilhan Omar either has to go to jail or has to be deported... as well as all of her countrymen who are not here legally or had anything to do with this fraud..."
— Rob Carson (39:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On FBI Raid and Evidence Handling:
  “What Jack Smith admitted in court this week was that... they mishandled the classified documents and misrepresented those to the court. That’s a kind way of saying we tampered with the evidence, then we lied to the court about it.”
  — John Ratcliffe (07:41)

• On Western Appeasement:
  “We show our moral strength through our tolerance. And now we’re seeing... the consequences, where you told people that their identity was more important than your nation’s national values.”
  — Thane Rosenbaum (25:12)

• On “Useful Idiots”:
  “The useful idiots will be used and then they’ll be discarded. It always happens this way.”
  — Rob Carson (31:20)

• On Historical Parallels:
  “This is 1939 Germany. It is. I mean, this is exactly what happened.”
  — Rob Carson (24:17)

• On Multiculturalism and Integration:
  “Your identity is the most important thing ever. And so you can come here, you do not have to integrate or assimilate...”
  — Thane Rosenbaum (25:12)

• On Call to Action:
  “We have got to beat back this horde... It's going to take homeboys, hillbillies, and Hebrews. That's why I came up with that expression when they started doing anti-Semitic protests.”
  — Rob Carson (35:51)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|-------------| | FBI Mar-a-Lago Raid Revelations | 04:25-10:22 | | Clinton Foundation/Uranium One Discussion | 11:12-16:31 | | 2020 Election Suppression | 16:31-18:13 | | Thane Rosenbaum on Antisemitism in Australia| 21:27-37:53 | | Minnesota Fraud Discussion | 38:03-39:54 |

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Summary & Tone

Rob Carson's show marries comedic bravado (“I want to see people lose their jobs and spend their lives in jail. That's all there is to it.” — 10:13) with deep frustration towards established institutions and political adversaries. The episode leverages recent news to revisit longstanding grievances (DOJ, Clintons, election integrity), while the discussion with Thane Rosenbaum contextualizes contemporary antisemitism in a larger civilizational struggle, frequently invoking historical parallels. Rob's fierce, emotional rhetoric contrasts with Rosenbaum's analytical tone, providing both venting and thought-provoking critique.

This episode is engaging for listeners who want a robust, unapologetic take on U.S. political scandals, alleged media suppression, and the global surge in antisemitism—with a signature mix of humor, culture-war rhetoric, and calls to action.

Transcript

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[Mike Benz]

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[Mike Benz]

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[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show, and this is hour number three. Our good friend Thane Rosenbaum is going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour. A legal analytical, legal analyst, law professor, and he's got some things to say about the Australia anti Semitic slaughter. So we'll talk to him at the bottom of the hour. Thought you'd be ready for that. It's always gonna be good. I believe Sean from Live Oak is on the photo. We'll get to Sean before we dive into the next topic, which, of course is the FBI going after Donald Trump and being exposed now, and also Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton pilfering money pay for play for American uranium. It's all real. It's all true. We said it was, but they called it disinformation. Sean, welcome to the show, brother. What'?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Greetings from West Lib Tardy. I want to cover the failings of universities leading up to Brown.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, security.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

And first is where I was looking at the guy that was heading up Charlie Kirk's security.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

And he discussed with the police chief of the campus police of covering the rooftop that Charlie was shot at, offering to put one of his people up there. But the only text he got from the police chief is, I got this. And we know he didn't get that. And then we moved to Berkeley, where the people at the Turning Point USA had to run a gauntlet to get into that event and to get out. And now you covered all the failings of the police at Brown University.

[Rob Carson]

Well, we've seen this. It's a festering boil. And we've been watching it grow and grow and grow. I've been following it since the early 90s. And as a conservative speech began to. Conservative speakers began to be boycotted and then attacked. And then conservative speech being called violence and culminating in people like Riley Gaines having to hide in a library to Avoid being accosted or Jewish students being, you know, accosted. The rise of anti Semitism with pro Palestinians nonsense. Fortunately that has been laid bare. But it is a very dangerous place to be a conservative. And now it was deadly in the case of Charlie Kirk and it may be deadly in this case as well. And then you combine that with a woke bunch of morons and let's face it, every time policing is in any way shape form put in the hands of DEI or wokeism, it is a crap hole. This happened in Washington D.C. the police chief in charge of Washington D.C. lying about crime statistics to make it look like crime had gone down 20% when it actually went up 27% when it went up 2%, a nearly 30 point difference. And so this is the case with, with, with Providence, Rhode island, the state of Rhode island and the, and the university as well.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Well, I have one last question.

[Rob Carson]

Yes?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Is this something that Trump's DOJ can go after these police departments for criminal incompetence?

[Rob Carson]

I don't know. I don't know. I would think that if you lie about statistics and crime and literally reduce the kind of crime to lessen the severity of the punishment and the severity of the crime, that there would be criminality involved there. I would have to leave that up to the experts because I am not that. I can't be an expert at everything, man. I can't do it, Sean. I try, I try to be an expert at everything. I just can't do it.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Well, I have one other suggestion.

[Rob Carson]

Yes? What?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Not exactly constitutional, but George Bush did it. I wish all those Palestinian supporters were taken down to Gitmo and asked just one question. Do you know the name of the guy who did the killing?

[Rob Carson]

Well, thanks for. Yeah, well, I gotta tell you, I'm done with all of this nonsense. Every Somalian here who was involved in that scandal up there, it's gigantic by the way. It's moved into education, higher ed and student loans. It's bigger than you can ever imagine. And of course Tim Voltz is distracting by going after the amount of bullets you can purchase. So he is desperate, he is diving in the polls. He should resign and he should go to jail. But I appreciate your phone call. Shocking deep state emails show the FBI red flagged weak evidence before Mar A Lago raid. They had no reason to do it. They just wanted to do it. They just wanted to do it. Documents turned over from the FBI to Congress revealed the Washington field office was in the process of processing the DOJ's negotiate with Trump's lawyers to return any classified information. But they wanted that photo op and it was dangerous because they were given orders to shoot to kill. Yeah, it actually happened. Here is the great John Solomon.

[John Solomon]

Well, that's what these emails show. First, they show that the Trump administration or the Trump team and his lawyer were cooperating. And in fact, the FBI wanted to leverage that cooperation and create a amicable solution that didn't involve a raid. The Justice Department said they weren't interested in making accommodations like that. Then the FBI told the Justice Department, the Biden Justice Department, that it didn't have probable cause, that the information they had was outdated. Single source couldn't be corroborated. They didn't have true evidence that President.

[Rob Carson]

Trump himself, kind of like the Steele dossier, when they got the Pfizer warrants to surveil the Trump campaign transition team.

[John Solomon]

And presidency have been the source of a crime. And the Justice Department said, we disagree. We're going to go ahead with it. The FBI continued to fight back, saying, we don't think there's probable cause. You certainly can't go to President Trump's office or you certainly can't go to his bedroom and do it. And the Justice Department response was, you know what? We're going to expand the search. What you see here is a potential Fourth Amendment violation of President Trump's civil liberties.

[Rob Carson]

And I want to see Merrick Garland and Chris Wray as bunk mates. It's interesting because 8:30am, August 8, 2022, FBI agents arrived at Mar a Lago. They notified the Secret Service ahead of time and didn't wear any identifying jackets to execute the war. Wait, they didn't show their there. They didn't show an id. They didn't show that they were actually officers of the law. Shouldn't there be a protest? Like what ice? They also said, turn off the security cameras. And they made Alina Haba leave the building. They didn't want anybody in there, any legal representation at all because they were planting evidence. They were planting evidence. Don't believe me? Here's John Ratcliffe, National Security Advisor last year, talking about it.

[John Ratcliffe]

Yeah. So that famous photograph, what we have now learned, and the government has had. Jack Smith and his prosecutors have had to.

[Rob Carson]

They brought folders with them. They laid that on the ground to make it look like Donald Trump had classified and confidential material and top secret.

[John Ratcliffe]

That that was staged. And those top secret classified sheets that all the public saw and said, oh, my God, look at those top secret documents. Those were placed there by the FBI. What Jack Smith admitted in court this week was that in his word, they mishandled the classified documents and misrepresented those to the court. Maria, that's a kind way of saying we tampered with the evidence, then we lied to the court about it and they got caught. When President Trump's lawyers and the other co defendants raised this issue and said, look, the documents here don't match up. The documents that were presented to us don't match the digitally scanned and records of when they were taken from Mar? A Lago.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it was all a shakedown. It was all to take down Donald Trump, even, even kill him if possible. It was, it was absolutely just like that. So what do we do now?

[John Solomon]

This is significant, not just from a historical standpoint. I interviewed the Assistant Attorney General for civil rights and that's Harmeet Dhillon, and she said she is looking at the possibility of bringing criminal charges from anyone who tried to deny President Trump or one of President Trump's supporters their civil rights. That means this evidence, which by the way, still in the statute of five years could potentially be prosecuted more and certainly go to the question of whether there should be a prosecution separately. And President Trump has shown he's not afraid to sue. Just ask the BBC who found out that this week, again, President Trump might have a very good suit. According to the legal experts. I talked that his civil liberties were infringed by the Justice Department. So this revelation is not just a historical or political revelation. It, it could have legal consequences.

[Rob Carson]

I hope so. I hope he, I hope some people go to jail. I hope Donald Trump sues their mother loving asses off. I really, really do. Unbelievable. Tom Tiffany, Republican, talking about how the FBI, the FBI was fully weaponized against Donald Trump and his supporters. There's no doubt about it anymore. It's not disinformation. You can't say that anymore. Hell is coming for you for doing this to us.

[John Ratcliffe]

You know, whether it's the Catholics in the Richmond Diocese, the FBI going after people, January Sixers, school board meetings, now this, that they did not care what the law is. And hopefully Cash Patel is emptying out the FBI Washington office and getting those people somewhere else out in the country or fired as they sure did not do any favors to the people of the United States, this is going to go down as a very dark chapter in American history. And President Trump may have recourse now to be able to seek damages at some point in time.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I want to see more than that. I want to see people lose their jobs and spend their lives in jail. That's all there is to it. But the FBI went after whistleblowers too, but they're coming out now.

[John Ratcliffe]

Yeah, it is a good thing. But, you know, you think about some of them were just being crushed. I mean, some of these people should have been coming forward in real time and saying, hey, this is unacceptable. But they really felt that they couldn't because they knew that those political appointees by the Biden administration would crush them. And we saw that in some of our hearings that happened over the last couple years where whistleblowers stepped forward and, man, they went after them like a ton of bricks. It's really unfortunate, but the truth is coming out. The great thing here is, you know, our moms and dads always told us that the truth is going to come out someday. And that's exactly what's happening now, though it's, it should have never happened, these incidents. And it's a little later than we would have liked to. The truth is coming out.

[Rob Carson]

What else is coming out? The Clintons getting hundreds of millions of dollars from Russian oligarchs after the Uranium One deal. I've been talking about this since it happened and I've been proven right. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Would I launch strikes in Mexico to stop drugs? It's okay with me. Boom, boom, boom, boom Come on Bang, bang, bang, bang Boom, boom, boom, boom Come on. Hey, hey, come on. One of the greatest blues songs of all time performed by Big Head Todd and the Monsters right there. Thank you very much. So a newly declassified FBI and DOJ records have revived scrutiny of the Clinton Foundation's ties to Uranium One, which I've been talking about since it went down. 20 records that closely track and reinforce investigative reporting first brought to the national attention by Peter Schweizer when he, when he wrote Clinton Cash. You see records obtained by the Senate Judiciary Committee detail that federal investigators believe there was significant evidence worth pursuing related to criminal activity involving Clinton foundation and the US Government's approval of Uranium One. She presided over it as a Secretary of State. I told you this, guys. And all of a sudden she got hundred million dollars from Russian oligarchs and it's all coming to fruition. Do you suppose maybe this is why she destroyed all the emails and destroyed the servers and bleach bit them and destroyed all the devices of her staff with hammers? Well, of course it is. Of course it is. Here's the great, the great Mike Benz.

[Mike Benz]

It was Actually Jeffrey Epstein whose lawyer testified in court that Jeffrey Epstein helped establish the Clinton foundation in the early 2000s right when Bill Clinton was leaving.

[Rob Carson]

Office and they became America's first oligarchs at least of the modern age.

[Mike Benz]

Clinton was beginning her Senate career and then into into the White House. This Jeffrey Epstein visited the Clinton White House 17 times during the Clinton presidency according to the New York Post.

[John Ratcliffe]

Wow.

[Mike Benz]

The there is a pay for play relationship that the Clintons evidently had. Surprise to no one. What's happening right now with the Uranium One scandal breaking open again with these newly declassified memos from Chuck Grassley that the FBI had an active criminal investigation into the Uranium One scandal that was 20% of all US uranium being sold off to Russia at the time that Obama had declared the Russian reset that we were friends with Russia. Now Hillary Clinton had the her Clinton foundation receive millions of dollars from shareholders of Uranium One.

[Rob Carson]

Well there's the Russian oligarchs, many of.

[Mike Benz]

Whom were Russian sourced. It looked like a direct payoff of the foundation associated with the Secretary of State so that the Secretary of State would bless the the sale of Uranium One since she sat on the CFIUS review board that authorized the sale.

[Rob Carson]

And two figures Frank Gistra, Ian Teffer were both associated with Uranium One. Gistra, a Canadian mining financier who helped create the company later donated over $100 million to the Clinton foundation through initiatives he co founded. What did I say for 10 years now teffer, who served as Uranium once chairman during the Rosatom acquisition contributed $2.35 million to the foundation and financial ties to the company prior to its sale which required approval from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States where then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton held a seat. Thank you very much. It's all painfully obvious and remember a.

[Mike Benz]

Huge proportion of Clinton foundation money just goes to pay salary and benefits to the to.

[Rob Carson]

It's like the Clinton. It's like the Joe Biden cancer charity that he did when he was after he left the White House. None of the money went to anything thing. It only went to staff for Clinton's.

[Mike Benz]

Family effectively and friends. So this was like a direct payoff. The FBI tried to investigate it but was shut down by by Andy McCabe the Deputy Director of the FBI who would go on to play a significant role in Russia.

[Rob Carson]

Gate in Russia. Wow.

[Mike Benz]

The fact is is which was used.

[Rob Carson]

To distract from Hillary Clinton's dealing with Russia.

[Mike Benz]

There's still unanswered questions about what Epstein's role was with the Clintons. Why did he visit the White House 17 times during in the 1990s. What exactly did he do to help establish the Clinton foundation, as his lawyer testified?

[Rob Carson]

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[Mike Benz]

Mike bins their one chance for winning the election in 2020 which is what they called the Red Mirage Blue Shift event. This is CNN for example, September 1st, 2020 month before the Whitmer fednapping two months before the January 6th deciphering the red Mirage and Blue Shift uncertainty surrounding the election results. This was what SISA and the censorship operation to censor the 2020 election was all about. It was to pre censor anything that might question or quote be legitimize. They did it Upcoming miraculous come from behind victory the day after remember 1005.

[Rob Carson]

Eastern Standard Time on the election night when they stopped counting the votes when Donald Trump was way out in front.

[Mike Benz]

Or in the days after where it would be a red mirage. Trump would win on election night but then it would shoot shift blue and Biden would win. They knew that was Biden's only path to victory, that it would look to all hell. So they had to pre censor five months before that happened starting in June 2020 any criticism it on social media that's why you got banned for questioning mass mail in ballots. Because high ranking government officials at the Department of Homeland Security teamed up with their outside blob mob who are all career specialists in toppling governments and know that the crux of it is perceptions.

[Rob Carson]

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[Thane Rosenbaum]

I think Jews in many communities around the world understand exactly what you mean with that question? But for people outside the community, why does that kind of concern come to mind? It's just what our government has done in this country.

[John Ratcliffe]

This happened.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

This started, this happened. He's got blood on his hand and he knows it. The acts of terrorism have been rewarded by the Australian weak government.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, 100%. It's a worldwide phenomenon. Since October 7th. Thane Rosenbaum is a distinguished university professor at Toro University, a legal analyst, CBS News essayist, jurist, journal novelist and friend of this radio program. And he joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Hello, my friend, and happy Hanukkah to you. You.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Thank you. And also, Rob, friend indeed. For sure.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, brother. I knew that something was up when a week after, or a week after October 7, they. They made up a hospital bombing and they immediately turned the tables on Israel. And any sympathy for Israel, and this is spread throughout the world. And the left has gobbled it up. They've gobbled it up. And unfortunately, in places like Australia, and listen, we always use the analogy 1939, Germany. But in Australia, since October 7, the day after October 7, they were shouting gas. The Jews in the shadow of the opera House there in Sydney, weren't they?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Yeah, they really were. The very next day, Rob, you know, and as if to say, words don't matter, even the new mayor of New York said, well, you know, I think globalizing Intifada is not language that I would use. I mean, that's just such a, you know, as if to say, I understand it means killing Jews, but it's not the choice. You're supposed to be a leader. The Prime Minister of Australia should be the prime minister for everyone in Australia. Instead, he's saying, I'm scared out of my mind that the Muslims will either both not vote for me or will create more of a havoc here in this country. So I will placate them because the Jews are normal. They're not going to blow themselves up. You know, they're just smaller member of the population, and I could care less about them. And if you care, if you let two years go by and let people scream word genocide and Intifada revolution and globalizing intifada, something like this is inevitably going to happen. And also, Rob, you know, people don't realize that, that America's intelligence agencies had already warned Australia that they believed that a Hanukkah attack was imminent. And they ignored that. And the Jewish association of Australia posted on Facebook the other day a warning that they also gave to the government. And the government just ignored It.

[Rob Carson]

You also mentioned in your article, you wrote this wonderful piece called Blasting a Broken Record, this time by the beach, which was in The Jewish journal Jewishjournal.com by the way. It was a wonderful piece and I'm just, I am so sickened that we're here. You wrote in this, it says the Islamists torched a kosher cafe, Sydney's Bondi suburb, October 2024. Arson attack on an Israel synagogue, Melbourne 2024. The 12 month synagogues in Sydney and Melbourne have been targeted with arsonic. This is 1939 Germany. It is. I mean, this is exactly what happened. This is exactly what happened because the Jews lived in peace in Germany until Hitler's ascension and then became an outcast. You're seeing this crap around the world. I've never in my life seen this. And we have got to beat back this horde.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Yeah, Rob. And you know, I'm a real cynic on these things, but I even admit I'm shocked, you know. But on the other hand, and Western societies, because of political correctness and identity politics, basically said to Muslims, your identity matters more than your assimilation. We don't care if you assimilate here. Identity matters more than anything. African American identity, gay identity, queer, whatever it is. Your identity is the most important thing ever. And so you can come here, you do not have to integrate or assimilate. We do not have to absorb. You can have your own Sharia court, you can build mosques wherever you want. And you can teach whatever you want to teach in there, even if it's about hate. And we will be tolerant because we're Western civilization and therefore we show our moral strength through our tolerance. And now we're seeing Rob all over the Western world and in Australia and Canada. The results of this, the consequences of this, where you told people that their identity was more important than your nation's national values, your national values could care. We could care less. Your identity is more important. And because of multiculturalism and identity politics, we'll give you the run of the place. And so now all of a sudden, you know, they're looking at, they're probably saying, why are you, why are you upset? You told us we can do this. And he told us we had free speech to say whatever we want. We can scream. And yet if anyone looked at the Quran a long way the wrong way, they throw you in jail, you look at the Quran the wrong way. But we can say anything we want about killing white people, killing Jews, because, you know, you gave us permission.

[Rob Carson]

I mentioned the other day that Well, a couple things going on. I've said that we have been in the throes of the civil war in our country for about a decade, effectively the last five years. There is a body count, there are casualties, there is damage to the tune of billions of dollars. The left's war against the United States Republic has founded and conservatives and there's no doubt about it and they have de facto so the de facto civil war. And they have soldiers for hire in antifa and other radical organizations. There's no doubt about it. It is a hired army and it is a civil war. And we always talk about World War Three. Thane, how long in your life have they been talking about World War Three? Since World War two. And I'm afraid we're in the midst of it, I really am. And there needs to be a warlike response to what radical Islam is doing in the world because they have declared war on the rest on the civil wide world. It is radical Islam versus the civilized world.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Rob, let us remember that Jesus Christ had a role in his world of peacemaking and love. And Moses, his message to Jews was law give it. He was the law giver. And Muhammad was a military general.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

What do you expect? Yes, it's, it's, it's a religion. Yes, sort of. But it's also a political movement.

[Rob Carson]

Of course it is.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Christianity is not a political movement. Judaism is not. That's why there's Zionism. Judaism is a religion. Islam is a movement that is there, that it's not unabashed. They're not hiding it. World power is what's interesting to us. Let me hear this openness of our societies. Like we held back Islam for a thousand years from the Crusades. We always held them back. And they're probably laughing and saying you opened your societies up after years of fighting. You opened it up and you said it's all yours, carte blanche. And now I don't know if it's too late to stop it.

[Rob Carson]

I think it is not too late. I am never going to give up. And I will fight to the death, particularly for my brothers and sisters in Israel. I will. I swear to God in heaven I will. And goodwill win and good will win. Good will will win. I have no doubt about it. We are, we are. First of all, we're much more intelligent than the Neanderthals of a radical Islam. We are much better armed than they are and we are morally on the right side of God. And they're whatever God they have. You cannot look at a loving God through the eyes of radical Islam. This is Gad Saad talking about radical Islam, what it's all about.

[Mike Benz]

If you take your Islamic faith seriously, as many, many people have taken over the past 1400 years, it doesn't lead to the flourishing of liberties notwithstanding the fact that hundreds of millions of Muslims decide to ignore the objectionable parts of their religion that click in people's brains has to happen. It can't be that Islam is peaceful because, you know, a gay Muslim who's married to a Jewish guy, that's not the definition of Islam.

[Rob Carson]

No. And I asking, and it's been now 24 years since 911 for the peaceful Muslim community to stand up against those who are destroying their faith. You've got to get it together. Let's take a break and come back with Thane Rosenbaum. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[John Ratcliffe]

Yeah.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Again, look at the kind of language.

[John Ratcliffe]

And look at, look at the race.

[Rob Carson]

And is, you know, for The Senate in 2026 cycle, you know, one of the signature issues is being anti Israel and saying these incredibly anti erasal kinds.

[John Ratcliffe]

Of views on Israel.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

And it's super, super critical.

[John Ratcliffe]

And now people that were just recently elected like in New York as well.

[Rob Carson]

Too, that's call it what it is. And I can't imagine why that's becoming.

[John Ratcliffe]

More and more part of my party's.

[Rob Carson]

Platform because they, they take advantage of useful is what the deal is. That's what happened with what happened in New York. A lot of promises that will never be kept. The reason being they wanted to use useful idiots because first and foremost, first and foremost, the Zoran Mandami is an Islamist. That's why imams could support him even though he's pro LGBTQIA plus because they know he doesn't believe it. They know he used things like, oh yeah, we're gonna make the buses free and we're gonna keep the rent low and we're gonna give you free grocery stores and the useful idiots will be used and then they'll be discarded. It always happens this way, Tane Rosenbaum, doesn't it, Rob?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

You know, I don't know how you know this living in Maryland, because you would think the people in New York would have figured this out.

[Rob Carson]

I live in Virginia, which is not much better, unfortunately. I'm across the river from Maryland.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

He sounds, you know, he sounds rational. That's exactly how someone should understand it.

[Rob Carson]

It.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

There is something that's really perverse about queers for Palestine. Right. Of course, homosexuals would last in a Sharia Law Society 10 minutes they'd be shot, hung from cranes, thrown off buildings. You know, I love the quote that you gave before about, you know, people say, well, I know a Muslim who's married to a Jewish person, so obviously everything is okay. And that kind of delusional behavior. Right. You know, it's just really hard to listen to. Yeah. Because the truth is you probably every, your listeners, whether Virginia or Maryland, they probably say, well, I don't know anybody who would behead somebody. Yeah, exactly, you probably don't. Yeah, you don't. But there are hundreds of thousands of people, if not hundreds of millions of people who have either participated in that or certainly hundreds of millions of them believe in it. You know, there's 2 billion Muslims in the world and the survey polling shows that around 60% of them believe in a strict adherence to Sharia law. So, you know, that's, you know, that's a lot of people, that's a billion point two who actually believe in stonings, beheadings, dismemberments and you know, on October 7, 2023, I know this is the way you feel. The minute the western world heard the words beheadings, torching babies and gang raping girls, it should have been over, should have been ball game. Right. Everyone should have said what just happened. What barbarians are doing that. So you know that either antisemitism is just a switch that is too easy to flick.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Or something other, more, something even more perverse is going on, a self hatred against America and the west and white society. Well, there's people jump so quickly to say, yes, I'm on the side of the people that behead, torch and rape.

[Rob Carson]

Well, and I heard Joe Rogan talking to Elon Musk the other day about something called suicidal empathy, which is what Minnesotans have with regard to Somalis coming in and just, I mean, just, I mean, desecrating the state and you know, with crime and then also looting the state to the tune of billions of dollars. And, and yet you've got white Minnesotans who are going to these restaurants that didn't serve any, starving, defend their Somali brothers and sisters. It's suicidal empathy. It's the kind of thing that causes an insane crazy cat lady to fall in love with a death row inmate. It's the kind of person who goes to Gaza as a woman thinking that life is going to be better there for her and I don't know what it is. And there's a lot of that with the self loathing Jews in New York City who voted for Zoran Manami, that they would vote to their own doom.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Yeah, it's perverse and demented and the apologies and the excuses that are. There's always a reason why something is like, you know, yes, of course there's context to the beheadings. No, there's not. No, there's no context to gang raping girls. Oh, you know, even the UN, the Secretary General of the UN shortly after October 7th, said, well, this all happened. And that didn't happen in a vaccine. Yes, it did happen in vacuum. What are you talking about? This is something that, as the Secretary General of the United nations, you should be taking a very strong position on. The Women's Committee of the United nations refused to acknowledge the sexual violence that took place in Israel, even though the evidence was everywhere of sexual violence.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know, the thing that I think that Donald Trump needs to export from this country, like he is exporting freedom and patriotism into Central America. As each one of those communist dictatorships fall. Venezuela will be next. The next is this battle with radical Islam. He's going to have to export that and he's going to have to go around the world and governments who don't play along. It's going to take the citizenry to rise up. It is going to. It's going to take homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews. That's why I came up with that expression when they started doing anti Semitic protests. Homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews. And we're going to have to come together and we're going to have to defend our Jewish brothers and sisters. That's just it, dude. I'm not screwing around with this. It's gonna take everybody.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

I love you for this. I love you for your passion. You know, my parents came here after the Holocaust. They were Holocaust survivors. There was a social compact that was made by immigrants, whether they were Irish or Polish or Russian in the 19th century and the Germans in the 19th century. All through the great migrations of the 20th century, you came to America to be part of American society, to embrace American liberal values. Right. This generation, to several generations of Islam has been completely giving the finger to America. We have no interest in your liberal values. We have no interest in the Democratic liberalism. We're interested in imposing our values on you. But if you say what I just said, it's Islamophobic, well, guess what?

[Rob Carson]

That's ending. We gotta run. I do believe we have the right man in the White House to, to end this nonsense and start deporting people. I say leave it up. To the authorities in the United States. But we have to come together. We will come together and we will defeat the scourge of radical Islam. Because they made the mistake of exposing themselves. They. They are pompous, they are arrogant. They've exposed themselves. They think they're in control in places like France and. And Australia, but they've really pissed off the masses. And the beatdown is coming. Thane Rosenbaum. We gotta go. God bless you, my brother. A blessed and happy Hanukkah to you.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Merry Christmas and happy new to you, my brother. Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

All right, we'll talk again soon. Let's take a break. It's the Rob Carson Show.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Gee, I wonder if there's any connection between the first Somali in US History.

[John Ratcliffe]

To serve in Congress and the billions in fraud in her district, which is.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Mainly made up of Somalis.

[Rob Carson]

Weird.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

So what's her story? She landed in the US after fleeing civil war in Somalia. She says her dad was an educator.

[John Ratcliffe]

But he was also a colonel.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

The Somalian army under a dictator who committed war crimes. So, yeah, she escaped the problem that.

[John Ratcliffe]

Her family helped create.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Jesus, come watching the Beacon Free Beacon reports that, yeah, she really did marry her brother, possibly to skirt immigration laws and get her brother into the U.S. yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rob Carson]

And there's a massive fraud in Minneapolis. I can't get to all of it. They've uncovered millions of dollars. 2000 ghost students fraudulently received $12.5 million. Education Secretary Tim. Linda McMahon sent a letter to Minnesota Governor. Tim votes about that. Tim Voltz is in a lot of hot water. I hope the little, little B word goes to jail. Also, Minnesota's unemployment insurance program. Massive, massive, massive fraud in that Minnesota is a cesspool. Minnesota is like the movie Fargo. You think everybody's friendly and everything, but there's a lot of dastardly deeds going on under the table. I lived when that movie. I lived in Minneapolis when that movie came out, by the way. Sorry I couldn't get to all of that today. But Tim Walsh was a lot of trouble. He's polling very badly, and he's now turning on gun control even though. Even though the shooting happened in Australia. But Democrats are using it to control guns in America because they want to distract from all the crap that they're doing, and they're looking for the next thing. They're looking for the next thing. An Australian shooting. Natural is making them want to control guns in America. It's ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous. Tim Voltz will go to jail, and I think Keith Ellison will go to jail. And I think that Elon Omar either has to go to jail or has to be deported from the country, as well as all of her countrymen who are not here legally or had anything to do, anything to do with this fraud whatsoever. You have lost your pass. You are now never allowed to come back to America. It's time we stood up to these people, people who don't want to live here and don't want to assimilate. Gtfo. There you go. That's gonna do it for the show today. God bless you and yours. God bless Donald Trump, America's founder, what he's doing for the country. And until tomorrow, which is Thursday, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, and don't catch the stupid. See ya. Hey, Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile.

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