Caller/Guest (6:17)

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him. On the evening of September 11, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office and scene investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators reviewed additional video footage from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus in a gray Dodge Challenger at approximately 8:29am on September 10, in which he is observed on video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo and light colored shoes. When encountered in person by investigators in Washington county on September 12th in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in consistent clothing with those surveillance images. Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th. And in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to uvu. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate. The family member also confirmed Robinson had a gray Dodge Challenger. Investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson. Investigators interviewed that roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made A joke on Discord. Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on Discord. He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to a. To visually watching the area where a rifle was left, and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact. Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.

Mary Walter (9:11)

All right, so there's a. There's, you know, a lot that he gave us there. And. But what we really found out from this is this kid hated Charlie Kirk, clearly did not felt that Charlie Kirk spread hatred. And if you have ever watched any of Charlie's videos, you would know that that's not what Charlie did. But if a lot of people, we have in a generation that's been brought up that if I don't like what you're saying, that's hate speech. We didn't have the term hate speech 10 years ago. It's hate speech. And if it's hate speech, you're a fascist, you're a Nazi, and I have the right to harm you. I have the right to silence you. Assassination is the ultimate in censorship, right? It is, yeah. They. They threaten hoping that you'll be quiet. And we were. We were. A lot of us are really quiet. Just remember the first election. Does you remember the 2016 election, the first time Trump ran, when everyone was afraid to wear a shirt that. That expressed your support for Donald Trump as a candidate? Because if you did, they were going to beat you up. If they found you, they'd surround you like. Like Maxine Waters told them to. You surround them, you get in their faces, you let them know that they're not welcome here. And then when people do that, they're like, oh, that's not what I said. That's not. That wasn't what I meant. That's not what I said. Words have consequences sometimes for people who are susceptible to them. There are a lot of people who may be low information or who are very emotionally driven. And when you tell those. Those people, people like that, that the leader of the opposition party is literally Hitler, who's going to unleash the troops in your neighborhood and carry you off somewhere and that they're coming into neighborhoods and they're kidnapping people and disappearing people. And you tell them that anyone, anyone who, who follows Hitler has to be a Nazi. I mean I've been called a Nazi, I've been called a fascist, I've been called, I've been called racist, I've been called all sorts of names just because I have an opinion that disagrees with the lefts. And when you call people those names, you dehumanize them, you make them evil. Right. What was the, always the question, the existential question? Well it Would you go back and if you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler as a baby? Remember a lot of people use to ask that. Well, imagine what they would do to Hitler as an adult if you think this person is Hitler. So and here's Charlie Kirk who's super visible on the right, friends with Hitler. So of course you can see where someone who is susceptible to that message and who believes that message or lives in some kind of echo chamber where that message is believed would act. This is why the left's rhetoric and some of the, listen, I'll say some of the right to far right, some of the, some of them are out of control too. But we have politicians on the left who will say these things with zero punishment and we have the media that will say the same thing. They were, they were on the day that Charlie was shot saying, well he's divisive, he's hate filled. His hate filled rhetoric, those words were being used to describe Charlie Kirk after he had been shot. And that's the problem to me anyway. And you can disagree with me. 800-922-6680 900 Excuse me. 800-922—6680 so you know the other thing I wanted, what they said in that press conference, press conference that was really interesting to me is his roommate. Now I don't know if this is a college roommate or this is like another roommate because I did see a report where he only attended for one semester and dropped out now and then I saw other reports that said he was a student. So I'm going to leave that as a question mark. But regardless, this roommate with whom they were in this group, this discord group and I think it's a gaming group, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's a gaming group that you notice that the roommate said it was a joke. Well, here's the thing that after the shooting happened, don't you think it was incumbent upon that roommate to go to the FBI and go, oh, I got it, and then showed them the messages. He only showed them the messages after they went to him, after this kid's father turned him in. And knowing that this is what he was doing, like, I just think that there's some kind of, if not legal, a moral, a moral responsibility to raise your hand because the deed's been done, at least at that point, ma', am, think about what would have happened if you had raised your hand before the deed was done. Imagine you could have maybe stopped this, but you didn't. And you tell investigators, oh, it was a joke. There was a point at which you didn't think it was a joke. And I don't know if that's, I don't know. That to me, just speaks volumes of a lot of what's wrong in this country. But. All right, so we're going to talk about all of that. If you want to comment in here, 800-922-6680. We're gonna go through this. We also have other news that we're gonna get to as well. It's not gonna be all Tyler Robinson. It's not Charlie Kirk, because there are other things happening. And I think at some point we get a little overload. I do. So I assume you do as well. But I do have some questions for you that I do want to ask you and see how you would respond to them. So. Oh, and also coming up, want to tell you later in the show, next hour we'll be joined by Lindy Lee. You know her, she's a political commentator. So we're going to discuss the news of the day with her. And then also in the last hour of the show, Christian Toto will be here as he is every Friday. He's going to talk to us. We're going to talk about this new movie that's coming out. It's based on a Stephen King inspired story and it's called the Long Walk. So we'll find about all about that with Christian. So that's coming up. So it won't be all Charlie Kirk and the assassination, I promise. All right, I've got more coming up. I'm Mary Walter and you're listening to the Rob Carson Show.

Caller/Guest (15:32)

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Mary Walter (15:43)

I'm Mary Walter sitting in the seat for Rob Carson, who is off enjoying a nice, long, well deserved weekend. Starting it a little early. 800-922-6680 is my number. Or you can find me on X at Mary Walter Radio. No s. I'll try to get to your comments as. As quickly as I can if you want to comment on something that we're talking about here on the show. Also, my podcast, it is live on Tuesday, 7:15pm Eastern Time. It is live on YouTube, Getter and Rumble. Just look for Mary Walter Radio. The audio is available on Apple podcasts Spotify and spreaker. Unfortunately, YouTube is not processing the video. I don't know why they said it's usually processed within 24 hours and yesterday was 48. Still hadn't been processed. So I'm not sure what's happening there. But you can find it on Rumble, you can find it on Getter, and then I will get the audio up on Apple podcasts Spotify and Spreaker. But with this crazy week, that's what I intended to do on Wednesday when I was out running errands. I was going home and I was gonna edit the podcast and get it up. And then, of course, the bowels of hell opened. And I just haven't done it. I'm sorry. I just. Yesterday, I couldn't do anything. I couldn't do anything. And it's. I just don't think I'm alone in that. I see a lot of people who feel the exact same way just feel numb. Like I felt numb for a good 24 hours. I didn't know how to feel. Some good news, though. President Trump will be honoring Charlie Kirk posthumously with the Medal of Freedom. It is the highest civilian award in America. He said. I'm pleased to announce that I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk posthumously the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The date of the ceremony will be announced, and I can only guarantee you one thing, that we will have a very big crowd. Very, very big. Yeah, people are. People will be more than happy to attend that. To honor Charlie. Also, Congressman Andy Ogles out of Tennessee is introducing legislation to honor Charlie Kirk with the posthumously with the Congress gold Medal for his unwavering dedication to the American spirit, even unto death at the hands of a political enemy. Charlie elevated our national discourse, inspired our students, and proclaimed Christ crucified with vigor and conviction. He said Charlie Kirk is not only a hero of the Christian faith, but also the embodiment of what our founders envisioned when they enshrined the First Amendment. Today, we honor Charlie Kirk by doing what he would have wanted, standing firm, never backing down in the face of threats from the murderous left. And the act that he is introducing describes Kirk as an American hero whose life was tragically cut short by a political assassin on September 10, 2025 at Utah Valley University. It adds that Kirk had an undeniable love for his country and inspired an entire generation of young people to boldly protect and defend the principles of the American founding. I hope that my colleagues on both sides of the aisle can come together to condemn this cowardly act of political violence and honor this champion of free speech and truth who inspired so many of his fellow Americans. So here's the thing. And you can weigh in on this. 800-922-6680. Here's the thing. I don't think the Democrats are going to jump in on this. I really don't. And I want to get to your call. So, Leonard, Kurt, hang. Actually, Leonard, I've got. If you can do it in a minute. Let's go to Leonard in Georgia. Go ahead, Leonard. You got a great point. Go. Leonard, you there?

Caller/Guest (19:07)

Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me?

Mary Walter (19:08)

Yeah, go ahead. I have about a minute for you. Go ahead.

Caller/Guest (19:10)

I can do it quickly. Justice Smollett, he set up a false flag. You know, since we don't. We don't react and we don't go violent. The conservative, they set up a false flag to make it look like we're violent. Jan6 was another false flag. They wanted us to react to a violent event so, you know, so they can blame us for it, but we don't take the bait. And that's what I wanted to say, Mary, and good to talk to you again.

Mary Walter (19:31)

Thank you so much. I appreciate that. You're so right, Leonard. That's a great point. We can't take the bait. Kurt and Christopher, hang on, because I'm not going to have enough time to give you guys and I want to give you more time on the other side because you did take the time to call in. So hang on. Unless you want to go away and then come back, which is fine. Oh, and Kurt, we have Kurt, too. We have to. I personally believe that we don't take debate. I think Leonard is 100% right. Don't take the bait because they want us to be violent. You can't do that. You can't give it to them. You have to show them who we are. We are not them. We are not the same. Notice there was no rioting Notice there was no rioting because we're not the same. We have to make our voices heard at the ballot box and we have to make sure that Democrats never, ever, ever have power again. Never. Because when they have power, they don't know how to use it. So we have to do that from school board all the way to the presidency. There's so much more coming up. I'm so glad you guys are calling in. Can't wait to talk to some more of you. Coming up on the Rob Carson Show. And welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. Mary Walters sitting in for Rob Carson on this Friday. Still, still very emotional day. A little bit less. Each day is going to get a little bit better. I'm going to lose it. When it comes to the funeral. I'm going to be done. It's going to be a bad day for me, probably a bad day for a lot of us. And someone, you know, reached out to me on X and said, you know, I feel the way you do, but I was raised, it's the guy who said I was raised that men don't cry. I'm like, you're not crying alone. This is one of those big things. This is one of those things where everyone understands if you cry. Honestly, I gotta tell you, I think women appreciate a man who can show his emotion in that way. Listen, I want a soy boy who, you know, cries at the drop of a hat over everything, you know, stupid stuff, but a man who can show his feelings and his emotions when it comes to animals, you know, because your dog died so you cried, that's fine. You know, we want to see that side, too. So I don't think people should try to hide that, you know, let your emotions out. It's okay. I think. Curtain Edgewater, you're on the Rob Carson Show. Welcome.

Caller/Guest (21:55)

Hello. How you doing?

Mary Walter (21:56)

I'm doing good. Go ahead.

Caller/Guest (21:58)

I just wanted to say that how trying to have an adult conversation with a Democrat is impossible because they have childlike minds. They're not. Charlie, Charlie tore him up in, in debates and that's why they killed him. Because you cannot speak to these people. They're, they're like children. But the only difference is a child can learn. Whereas these people think they're the smartest people in the room. And because of that, they'll never learn.

Mary Walter (22:26)

I think it's that not all of them, but many of them are very, very emotionally driven. They don't. We have a generation that wasn't taught how to think. They were taught what to think. So when you don't know how to think and you don't know how to reason for yourself and you, you're challenged. You can't and you can't reason it out. Do you see what I'm saying? They don't have that skill. They were never taught that skill. All they were taught is that, you know, you can have. They use the term my truth. Well, my truth. Like, there's no such thing as your truth. The truth is the truth. But that's not what they were taught. They were taught that feelings are facts, and because of that, when you challenge their facts, you're challenging their feelings, and that's why they can't handle it. That's why they lash out. You know.

Caller/Guest (23:17)

They'Re incapable. Being rational. And any independent that still considers. Considers himself an independent and hasn't gotten away from the Democrat party, They're only fooling themselves. The Democrat party is satanic.

Mary Walter (23:32)

Yeah. I think there are some who I truly believe are evil after this. I never thought that before. Like, truly. Did people say it? I was like, ass, hyperbole. Now I see it, and I think that there are some at this point. And thank you so much. I appreciate you, Kurt. I think there are some who truly are evil. That there is evil at play. And I don't care. You can disagree with me. That's fine. Because I always, never wanted to sound super preachy. Right. But. But after seeing what I've seen online, and I'm sure you've seen and you've heard from some people, there's just. There is evil afoot. I truly believe that. I said to somebody, it's no longer. It's no longer. I don't feel like it's left versus right anymore. I kind of feel like it's evil versus good or good versus, you know, like, that's just how I'm starting to feel right now. Like, this is maybe not a political thing. This is deeper than that. What we're seeing. Masks are being dropped, in my opinion, and people are showing their true colors, and behind that mask is a horrible demon, a horrible tortured soul behind that mask. And feel free to disagree. 800-922-6680 in Catonsville. Christopher, you're on the Rob Carson Show.

Caller/Guest (24:43)

Hi. Yeah. The words you said before. Hate. Hate speech. That's two nouns are short for I hate speech. And the schoolhouse superhero verb can verify that.

Mary Walter (24:55)

That's perfect.

Caller/Guest (24:56)

And, you know, and if we didn't have that, we wouldn't be all this supposedly hating and stuff. You know what I'm saying? It's like whoever invented that was an evil person.

Mary Walter (25:05)

The hate speech thing.

Caller/Guest (25:07)

Yes, that term. Yeah, it was supposed to be. The term was supposed to Be targeted, you know, and it wasn't in the. But they went with hate because it's a troublemaker.

Mary Walter (25:17)

Right, right. Because if you can say, you know, you follow and you see them take it and they, they. You can follow the dominoes as they tip. Hate speech. So, so what the Democrats did by marching in Skokie, Illinois, in their. In their Klan outfits, which the ACLU f Their right to do, would now be considered hate speech by the same people who fought for that Right. A generation ago.

Caller/Guest (25:41)

Ah, but truly, it's just. It's targeted, you know, it's. You know, perhaps they're saying besides hate is. You can hate all you want in your head. And you know what I'm saying, that's got. No, that's. That's not a crime, you know, oh, I got sent up. I got life for hating in my head. You know, that doesn't happen, you know.

Mary Walter (25:59)

Right. But. And you can listen. You can hate out loud. Christopher, we gotta run. Thank you so much.

Caller/Guest (26:03)

True too. Yeah, it.

Mary Walter (26:05)

You can hate out loud. That's fine, Christopher. Thank you. Like you have a choice to not go hear someone speak if you don't like what they have to say. But we've lost that thread because the message with this entire generation, and I feel for these kids because it's not their fault. They were indoctrinated. And the media took this ball and ran for it and spread the hate. They did. I have a montage coming up of the left spreading the hate. And I had to clip it and we had to cut it because it was so long of clip after clip after clip of the media calling people that disagree with you. People on the right, Hitler, fascists, hate filled, all. Everything. We've heard it all. If you disagree with them, you're a misogynist. You're an Islamophobe. You're this, you're that. They're constant name calling because they're emotion. They're emotionally based. And when you're on emotionally based, as I said before, you don't have the ability to think. Now I want to continue her. I want to go to cut one. This audio here is a kid named Hunter Kozak. This is the man who was speaking to Charlie at the moment he was assassinated and he was asking the transgender question. And I want you to hear this and I want to know from you, do you think the dots connected in this kid's head and he's seen the light? I'm just. Just listen to this. And then if you want to call in 800-922-6680. Here's Hunter.

Caller/Guest (27:38)

And people have obviously pointed to the irony that I was. The point that I was trying to make is how peaceful the left was right before he got shot. And that that only makes sense if we stay peaceful. And as much as I disagree with Charlie Kirk, I'm on the record for how much I disagree with Charlie Kirk. But like, man, dude, he is still a human being. Have we forgotten that? Are we crazy? Like.

Mary Walter (28:11)

Yeah, he's still a human being. Have we forgotten that? Do you think this kid had the dot? You know, the domino's go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Do you think he's connecting the dots? Because I think there's an entire generation right now that is connecting the dots. I really do. I think, and someone said it on accident's true. They've, they've, they have not. They didn't kill Charlie Kirk. They've created thousands of Charlie Kirk's now because there were kids who went to go see Charlie Kirk who would hear him speak and would have a reasonable discussion with him. And that made an impression on them and they valued that. So I think this poor kid, I can't even imagine being him asking this question and being right there when that happened. These kids are traumatized. I didn't want to see the video and it popped up and I was, you know, just looking at. I didn't know it was gonna show what it showed. I will never forget that image, unfortunately. Just like I'm never gonna forget when the towers fell on 9 11. Like, September is becoming a bad month. I wish I hadn't seen it. But these kids are traumatized. And I think, and you can, I'd love to know what you think. Do you think this is changing those who maybe didn't like Charlie Kirk, didn't like what he stood for, but now value, like, don't understand why. Why was he killed? For expressing his viewpoint. I think this may result in a wonderful change across this country. 800-922-6680. William, you're next. Don't go away. You're listening. Rob Carson show. Welcome back. Mary Walters sitting in for Rob Carson. I just have a lot of questions and we just played the audio from Hunter Kozak. Who was the kid asking the question, the transgender question, when Charlie was assassinated? And he comes out and he says, the point I was trying to make is how peaceful the left was. And then there's a long pause and you can see the kid thinking there's crying. He said, right before he got shot, I think that they are creating an entire generation of Charlie Kirk's. Let's go to William and Carney. William, you're on the Rob Carson Show. Welcome and thank you for calling.

Caller/Guest (30:29)

Thank you, Mary. I've been listening to you for a long time. I think this is the first time ever chimed in with you.

Mary Walter (30:37)

Well, thank you.

Caller/Guest (30:38)

Yeah, Charlie Kirk, he was a good man. He had his P's and Q's, facts and everything else. He was a brilliant person. I watched him on podcast and all this and he never disrespected anybody. He always used facts and he loved people. And the devil couldn't handle it. You're right, the devil couldn't handle it, so sent his people out. Because we are human being, Jess, but we are spirits and souls with inside. And that's our mechanism as we move, become in all shapes and forms. But if we don't have any common sense and any reason and understand who. Who the creator was that created us, there's an empty void. So the darkness comes right in. And that's the way communist works and that's way Karl Marx worked on things back in his days to find out how to break down countries and everything else. And look at the Soros foundations and the other ones.

Mary Walter (31:47)

No, I agree. And it's funny you mentioned Soros because Donald Trump today was on Fox and Friends this morning when he announced that they had the guy. You know, we've got a name, we've got someone in custody. He made that announcement. But he also went on to say that we are going to be looking into some of these groups that are funding this hate. And he mentioned George Soros and he goes, you know, I don't know, maybe we go after them on rico. We're looking into it because they're fomenting violence and you can't do. Yeah, you can't. And it's got to stop. And we've known that they've been doing it for a long time. And some. You got to follow the money, right? Like follow the money. Why do you think they scream so loudly when USAID was defunded? Right? Like that's why they're screaming.

Caller/Guest (32:31)

Oh, yeah, that was her life support.

Mary Walter (32:34)

I have to tell you, when they defunded USAID and Trump had them come in on a Saturday to peel the letters off the side of the building. I did laugh. I'm like, oh, you got. I'm gonna raise a glass to that one, because that's hilarious. So I had to do that. William, thank you so much. I appreciate you Joining me and I hope your weekend is good and you get to take a breath from all of this and things get better. That's what I had to do. I was just telling Brian that I had to take a break. I had to have some time to regroup, you know, and just breathe. My husband's home on today, he's home on Fridays sometimes. And I just had to take. Before I did the show, I said this is going to be intense. And yesterday I had to put the phone down. I had to put. Turn the computer off. I had to get away from X and I had to because even though I wasn't going on X, my phone is still going with the texts and honestly and on. And I said we gotta watch something. We put on like an old Abbott elementary, like because we're so far behind on watching stuff. Let's just go watch Abbott. I need something that's not politics. My brain, like I, I had a headache all day Wednesday from this, from just the intense emotional toll and maybe I'm just a weak person, but I had all day Wednesday I just had the worst headache. It was terrible. And this is what stress does to you. Scott, in Kingsville, you're on the Rob Carson show. Wel, yeah.

Caller/Guest (34:00)

It's fascinating that this young lad felt Charlie was spewing hate and mega does hate. You know, it's just incredible how people can be brainwashed. Your own two eyes shows how they leftist burned down cities, loot stores, shoot people, stab people, just sitting on a subway car, shoot police officers when they're sitting in their car. All you see is herds of the left doing heinous things. Show me one time where you saw a mega rally or a conservative rally do some kind of heinous hate crimes, go through cities shooting people or what have you. And it's just, it's incredible how this indoctrination gets to these younger people where instead of they see with their own two eyes what's happening but they blank that out because the indoctrination says, oh no, the right is mean people. Show me where the right has ever been mean. Show me where the right beats up people. Show me where the right goes into cities and burns stores down and businesses down and starts shooting people. I mean.

Mary Walter (35:20)

Let me just. Because we're up against the clock very quickly. Just let me interrupt you quickly. The problem is the reason that they do it and they think they're justified is they've been told their whole lives that the right is evil, that it's hateful. The mainstream media, Msnbc cnn, abc, NBC, cbs, they all pick that message up. Washington Post, a whole bunch of blogs, some, you know, network, state, you see it online all the time that, that it's, it's hate and that Trump is literally Hitler. That's what they've been told. And it's been beaten into the brains. Sure. The right commits violence. They had an insurrection on January 6th. I'm like, that's the, for a group of people, is probably the most armed group of people in the entire country. There wasn't a gun at that insurrection. So we're the worst insurrectionists in the world then, if that's true. So you have to understand that it has been beaten into their brain for years and years and years. And yeah, Scott, we gotta run. I'm so sorry, I don't mean to be rude to you, but we gotta go because we're up against the clock. So I had to take quick break because we have this like, weird little break here. So I have to take this break. Steve, I will get to you next. But that's what's happening. Older people, we don't understand it. We were taught how to reason. We were taught how to think. They have been taught what to think and that their feelings are facts. And that's why we are where we are, in my humble opinion. More coming up on the Rob Carson Show.

Caller/Guest (36:39)

Show.

Mary Walter (36:46)

Okay, taking your calls, 800-922-6680. Coming up on the other side, I'm going to play that mash up this composite of the left and the media. Well, the media talking about fomenting everything we're talking about and they will deny it. It's not them. It's not their fault. They will not stop. They're not going to stop. I don't think they're going to stop, but we can talk about that as well. But right now we're talking about just, just these kids and this hatred. And from the left, we have an entire generation of kids who have been taught to hate. But we do have a group of House Republicans who are advocating for replacement of a Charlie Kirk statue in the U.S. capitol. Now, this may be a bridge too far for me, but he died for the First Amendment. He died practicing the First Amendment. Let's quickly go to Steven Santa Cruz because I want to get to Kelly as well. Steve, welcome. You're on the Rob Carson Show.

Caller/Guest (37:36)

Hi, Mary. Everybody's got their story. Everybody's got their own reaction. The one thing we must absolutely have to do and we've got to get behind this and unify on this one. This thing about calling everybody that you don't believe in that doesn't agree with you, a Nazi, Hitler, a fascist, a killer. Just, you know, you meet someone that's pro life, they're Hitler. I mean, for God's sake, I mean, the left has gone insane about demonizing, dehumanizing people and that's what gets people killed. This dehumanization and this constant pounding away and brainwashing, brainwashing the left, the emerging left, left, young left, that everybody that doesn't agree with them is a fascist as Hitler is a killer. And you know what? That's the one of the things that we've got to get behind. We cannot allow that to continue on. And I think if Charlie died for anything, that's one thing that we can, that's one thing we can give him as a gift, is that people won't, will start listening to each other and allow others. There's people on Facebook that I'm friends with. I can't even, I could never mention to them that I support Trump or, you know, you know what?

Mary Walter (39:07)

They're not your friend at that point. They're not your friend. I cannot tell you. First of all, I don't go on Facebook very often because it's turned into the Super 8 movie of our generation, you know, their children and what they had for dinner, all this other stuff. So I'm not on there. Steve, we gotta run. Thank you so much. Kelly. If you, you can either call back or hold on cuz I really, really, really want to get to your call. I really want to hear what you have to say cuz it's super important. So if you could either hold on or call back, I greatly appreciate it. Don't forget Lindy Lee. Coming up next hour on the Rob Carson Show. Happy Friday to you. Thank you so much for joining me here on the ROB CARSON Show. Tough day. Still a tough day. It's going to be, it's going to be a tough couple of weeks, I'm pretty sure. Joining us later this hour is Lindy Lee, political commentator. Talk about all the news. There is other news happening besides what happened the assassination of Charlie KIRK Less than 48 hours ago. Coming up on just about 48 hours. And we've been talking about how we feel about this, you know, the left and the media and the role they play in this entire generation that has been poisoned, their minds have been poisoned by the leftist far left rhetoric and the spewing of the hate and pushing these kids to hate anyone that disagrees with them. They can't process it, they can't handle it. They haven't been taught how to think. They've only been taught what to think. And Kelly in Delaware comes to my rescue here. She called 800-922-6680. You're welcome to join me as well. And something that I had wanted to discuss and Kelly has a story to share with us. Kelly, welcome. You're on the Rob Carson Show. Thank you for holding on.

Lindy Lee (40:55)

Hi Mary, it's a pleasure to speak with you. My, my son's a senior. He just started his senior year in, in high school and so of course the events of this week, he and I had a deep conversation and I found something very interesting. My son considers himself a conservative and not all of his friends are like minded thinkers. But what was interesting is that they were all fans of Charlie Kirk. And what the takeaway of all of this was is that they didn't always take Charlie Kirk's message but they always took his delivery. And what these young kids are learning at least my son and his friends.

Mary Walter (41:33)

Was how to have a respectful debate.

Lindy Lee (41:36)

And understand that you may not always agree but you can still remain friends and you can still be cordial with one another and respect each other's opinions. And I thought that was a very mature response that he had while we were having this discussion the other night. You know, obviously grieving the way that we all are.

Mary Walter (41:54)

But it did give me a little.

Lindy Lee (41:55)

Bit of hope that maybe not the entire young generation is walking away with a poor perspective given the politics.

Mary Walter (42:04)

Abs. Yeah. Kelly, I'm so glad you shared this because I'm going to play something coming up but I have an actual person to tell the story. The I have hope in Jen. What is he? Gen Z? Is he Z? He's a right.

Lindy Lee (42:17)

Yes, yes ma'.

Mary Walter (42:18)

Am. Yeah. The men that, the men, the men of Gen Z are going to save this country.

Lindy Lee (42:23)

I couldn't agree more. I have, I have a 20 year old son and he is even more conservative than I am and again it brings me a lot of hope even at a time of such sorrow.

Mary Walter (42:35)

Yeah. And I know that some of his friends aren't that way but I saw a very interesting Charlie Kirk video and I don't know how you, everybody should look it up if you can find it but it's making the rounds on the Internet and I, I reposted it on XO for Mary Walter Radio and it's two, two people at the microphone. I'll tell you quickly. It's A young man who's totally goth, neck tattoos like you would walk on the other side of the street. And his dad, who's standing there with him, and his dad's older, gray, and. And they're standing there, and it turns out that the father. They're talking to Charlie Kirk. Kirk. The father's liberal. The son who looks like a goth kid. Who do you walk on the other side of the street is conservative.

Lindy Lee (43:16)

And you can't ever tell a book by its. By its cover. Right.

Mary Walter (43:19)

Nowadays you're 100% right. But the dad did kind of look like aging hippie. Like he's out there protesting on weekends. And Charlie actually brought them together. He. Because the father said. The father said, was my son. I can't even talk to him. And Charlie said, well, why not? He's your son. Father and son is an incredible relationship. You should be able to talk to each other. Just because you have political differences doesn't mean that you can't talk to each other. And he walked them through it. And it was so amazing to see because the son was totally into. Yeah, I just. I just disagree. I don't see the world to say, you know, I'm conservative. My dad's this. So we just don't, you know, and father's like, we. I can't talk to him. And it was the son who wanted to talk to his dad and his dad who was like, yeah, I can't talk to you. And Charlie brought them together, and it's amazing video.

Caller/Guest (44:06)

And I.

Lindy Lee (44:06)

And I think that's what the biggest message and take away from. From Charlie Kirk's legacy is going to be is, is that you can be united even if you don't always agree.

Mary Walter (44:16)

Right. But you know what? That's why they wanted to kill him.

Lindy Lee (44:22)

Yeah, unfortunately, that, that was, you know, that that's the climate that we're living in. But like I said, I'm still very hopeful that. That some of the youth is. Is actually taking this situation and hopefully walking away with a different perspective.

Mary Walter (44:38)

100%. Kelly, thank you so much for sharing that. Give your kid. Yeah, your kids sound like they're gonna be great. And I, like I said, I have full hope in Gen Z in because of the young men in that generation. And maybe this helped maybe sway some young women as well to see how far the party that they. The people that they back will go to silence someone who disagrees with them. Tom, Hang on. I just want to go to cut six, Brian. And this is something that I was gonna play. If we didn't get Kelly, but I'm so glad Kelly called. And we can kind of usher that. This is a mom who made a video when Charlie. When you. We heard that Charlie had been killed. And I want to know if you agree with what she has to say here. Cut six, this whole Charlie Kirk thing. You know, I'm a left leaning moderate, but the left has done a really great job of pushing us all over to the right the past. Well, the past year. And I'm so sad because what Charlie Kirk brought to the table was conversation and debate. And that's why I liked him. I didn't always agree with him, but damn, we need more conversation and we need more debate. And all I can hope is that all of these kids that showed up on these college campuses to debate him or to agree with him or whatever. I hope we end up with thousands more of Charlie Kirk out there debating. So she's a moderate left. Moderate left. And she said they've begun so far that they're pushing us to the right. And she hopes that the left has created thousands of Charlie Kirks who get out there now and debate. Did the left, the moderate left especially, just lose thousands of voters? Because I think that's what's happening here. I do think that this is going to backfire. I do think that they are going to create thousands of Republicans. Voters are people who maybe not. Maybe don't become Republicans. I'm not Republican. I'm not a registered Republican, but people who say enough is enough. You've gone too far, crazy town. I cannot vote for you. And I think that's how we honor Charlie Kirk is at the ballot box. But that's me. I think we honor him at the ballot box and we do. We make sure that Democrats are never in power again because they don't deserve the power. Because when they have it, they wield it with hate. Not all of them, but a lot of very vocal members of their party wield it with hate. And the other members of their party don't call them out. And to me, you're complicit, but that's me. So we vote them out of office, punish them that way, vote them out of office and make Charlie's work show for years to come, decades to come, generations to come, we never let them have power again. Let's go to Tom and Falsten. Tom, welcome. You're on the Rob Carson Show. Hi.

Caller/Guest (47:47)

Hey, Mary. Your show has been spot on and there's so many things that you've covered that I agree with. It's just the hate speech is overwhelming. And what bothers me the most is how it continues even now with people cheering on the death of Charlie. And even more so, the thing that's really troubling to me is I understand, and I haven't heard a lot about it, is that our Congress, when the speaker asked for a moment of silence, there were members in Congress that spoke up and made noises and stuff like that to kind of dishonor Charlie's death. Is that really true? And.

Mary Walter (48:24)

Well, hang on one second. We're going to play something for you here. This is cut eight, Brian. This is Nancy Mace, and a reporter asked her about that, about that supposed moment of silence. They also wanted to say a prayer, you know, because the Democrats did a moment of silence for. For George Floyd. So this is. Nancy Mace was asked about that yesterday, I think was yesterday or the day before, outside of Congress, about what happened in that incident. Sweet Lauren Boebert, God rest, God bless her, she was such a good friend. Charlie Kirk. So was Anna Paulina Luna. All they wanted was a prayer and a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk. We all knew he'd passed away at that point. And Democrats were screaming and shouting, no, no, no, over and over again. That is precisely the problem with the Democrat Party right now. Republicans, we are the party of normal, and they are the party of the wicked. They are the party of the vile. They are the party of violence. And until they recognize that, until they absorb that and take responsibility for that, nothing is going to change and will only get worse. So there you go. Yeah, they wanted a prayer and a moment of silence, and that was the response. So you heard right. They ought to be.

Caller/Guest (49:38)

They ought to be censured and thrown out of Congress.

Mary Walter (49:41)

The problem is, censuring doesn't do a darn thing. Yeah, you know, it's like. It's like a mark in your permanent record in second grade, and you thought it was going to follow you, like through adulthood.

Caller/Guest (49:51)

That's true. But, Mary, they ought to be identified by name. We ought to call them all out by name, the ones that did this.

Mary Walter (49:58)

Yeah, I agree. But again, the solution to me is we can censure them. We can call them out by name. The best punishment we can meet out is to defeat them. And we have to do it, as I said, every level. Not just Congress, not just the presidency. School boards, local government, you know, Congress, the whole bit. Your local state House. That's where they have to be defeated. We have to make them feel it. We have to let them know that they've gone too far. And the best way to do it is take away the gravy train, take away their power. Literally stripped them of their power. Tom.

Caller/Guest (50:31)

Just can't wait that long.

Mary Walter (50:32)

Well, you know what? There I leave some states have, we have, we have gubernatorial elections coming up in several states, and people got to get out and vote, and they've got to, they got to strip them of their power. Tom, thank you so much for joining me. Gary, in Kingsville. You're on the Rob Carson Show.

Caller/Guest (50:46)

Hi, good afternoon, Mary. You know, this whole, this whole thing has impacted me so much, you know, and I tried to be a good Christian man, a good man of faith, but I was so filled with anger because I felt like I was being overwhelmed with evil.

Mary Walter (51:05)

Yep.

Caller/Guest (51:06)

And the problem was that, and I tried to hold it in. I'm like you said, guys don't cry, guys don't, you know, kind of stuff. I tried to hold it in and hope it would go away, but instead it just kept getting worse and worse to the point that I was starting to have evil thoughts, thoughts of my own. I won't, I won't go into detail here, but they, they were, they were not good about what I would like to see happen to that young man if he has proven to be, in fact, the one who murdered Charlie Kirk. And it so overwhelmed me that I knew that there was something wrong with me that I had to do something about it. And I reached out to my pastor, God bless him, and he was, he was such a good, oh, man, he was such a good.

Mary Walter (51:52)

Guide. Was he a good calming voice?

Caller/Guest (51:55)

Well, he helped me to understand.

Mary Walter (51:58)

Yeah.

Caller/Guest (51:58)

That the struggle, that the struggle I was having showed growth in my spiritual walk, in my walk with Christ that I was having trouble dealing with, with my emotions of what I was feeling. And that he said, I said, I'm not to going to give you, give you some kind of an okay for what you're feeling. What I am going to say is it's a sign of, of growth in Christ. And it suddenly made me realize that, you know, as a Christian, I'm, I'm called to, to walk like Christ. I'm called to live like him. I can't even live like Charlie Kirk.

Mary Walter (52:32)

Yeah. You know, but, but I'm so, I have mad respect for you for calling and sharing this. It's not easy. You can hear it in your voice, but there's no shame in that. And I think that's something that's really good that people can hear that there's no shame. You may not have known Charlie. That's okay. But wrong is wrong and evil is evil. And there's honor in calling it out. There's no shame in calling it out. There's no shame, I don't think, in being angry. I told you I got angry. I went all Jersey. I was screaming at people on the road who. I was like, I was so angry. I actually had to pull over into a parking lot on my way home. And you just fume. I had a headache. I was. I was so angry, and I didn't know what to do with it. So I felt that anger. And I get it. So I think what you're sharing with us is really appreciated, and I thank you for doing that. And I hope that it does help to talk about it and get it out. Like, you got to spit it out sometimes, I think. And that's why I want to have this conversation today, because I think right at that point now, where we can have that conversation about how we feel and where we go from here. So channel that anger. Get involved. Get Republicans elected. Make sure they never have power again. You know, that's what we can do. Gary, thank you so much. I appreciate you sharing that. That's tough. All right, Rob in Baltimore. Hang on, I will get to you. And then I want to play a little bit about from Tim Burchett. This was in the afternoon, the day that Charlie had been assassinated. And so coming back, I'll share this with you. And a really great question was asked, and I want to ask it of you as well. All right, so we're going to do that. We also have Lindy Lee coming up. We're going to hit her take on what's happening as well. So much going on, but I'll try to get to all of it and then we can release. You know, it's going to be a rough couple of weeks. Coming up, I'm Mary Walter. You're listening to the Rob Carson Show.

Caller/Guest (54:26)

Come on, Feet start moving. Got to get me there.

Mary Walter (54:38)

All right. Heading into the weekend, it's gonna be a sad one. It's gonna be tough, but we're gonna have to start to come out of it and channel our grief and our anger. I'm starting to turn to anger. I'm kind of over the grief. I know I'm gonna cry more, but I'm starting to turn towards anger. And I will never vote for another Democrat as long as I live. And that's how I'm going to honor Charlie Kirk, because I think that's what we need to do. Rob in Baltimore. Welcome. You're on the Rob Carson Show. Hi.

Caller/Guest (55:09)

Hello. How you doing today? I heard. Look, I know we're all going through a rough time. What I want to bring up, unfortunately, I'm right here in Baltimore City stuck in a harbor tunnel because of the Key Bridge got knocked down, but that's how life is here. Anyway, what I'm calling with the left. Carl spoke to you about what he was saying about. About all those people that heckled and acted like imbeciles. One, that he was trying to get a prayer going. I spoke to Rob Carson. I met him at the Freedom Fest last fall. He's a wonderful guy. And anyway, he would be all on board. We need to know who these people are so we can go to their districts and let the people know what they're voting for. We really need to know who that group of people was that laughed and heckled when John was just trying to get a prayer going. We really do need to have a list of who they are. I really believe that.

Mary Walter (56:02)

Well, you know, it's kind of. It was kind of chaos on the floor. People were wandering around. Mike Johnson's trying to get order. And, you know, there's people all over the place. They weren't necessarily sitting in their seats. So I don't know if we're ever going to get that, but I think you're right. But you know what? I don't care because I'm never voting for another Democrat as long as I live.

Caller/Guest (56:19)

So, no, I haven't for a long time. And I grew up there. I was. I was very fortunate. At my age of 69, I was very blessed to meet John F. Kennedy when I was six years old.

Mary Walter (56:27)

Wow.

Caller/Guest (56:28)

Yeah, I know. My mother's in a Democratic club and we met at Patterson, at Patterson Park. He landed. It was. I was about 6. He shook all of our hands. We got. We got a signed autograph from him, and we still have that in the family. And of course, that was on. That was in October of 20 of 62 or 1. And then a year later, November, he got assassinated.

Mary Walter (56:50)

Oh, my God.

Caller/Guest (56:51)

Yeah. And after about four or five years later from there, I met Martin Luther King at the same place. And then he got assassinated.

Mary Walter (56:57)

I said, maybe it's you.

Caller/Guest (56:58)

I don't think. I don't want.

Mary Walter (57:00)

Did you meet Charlie Kirk?

Caller/Guest (57:02)

Yeah, we. Yeah, yeah, I met both of them. I was very blessed to be able to meet them both. Yeah.

Mary Walter (57:07)

Well, yeah. That's incredible. Thank you so much. I appreciate your your thoughts, and I appreciate you listening to us. Even though you're stuck in the tunnel, it's nice that you can get us in the tunnel. So look at it that way. Rob, thank you so much for joining us. Me, I quickly want to go here to. Where are we? Yeah, very quickly. I want to go to cut four. This is, this is Tim Burchett. He. The day after when we, the day of Charlie's shooting, after we knew that he had been assassinated, a great question was asked. Go ahead. What do you think is the bigger.

Caller/Guest (57:36)

Threat, domestic terrorists or foreign terrorists?

Mary Walter (57:41)

You got to be vigilant on all of it.

Caller/Guest (57:43)

There's a lot of signs we need to watch for.

Mary Walter (57:45)

But, you know, the left has got a.

Caller/Guest (57:48)

They got blood on their hands on this one. There's no question. And, and repercussions, I think are gonna, I think could be monumental at the ballot box.

Mary Walter (57:59)

Yeah, that's it. And that's what I'm talking about. Monumental consequences at the ballot box. We have to wait for them to be censured or for them to be named who were screaming about, you know, shouting down Lauren Boebert, wanting a prayer and a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk. We know who they are. They show themselves very freely now. But he asks a great question. What is the bigger threat, domestic or foreign terrorism? And I think it's a great question. And right now I agree. I mean, both are important. And I do think that we have terrorists on our shores who are foreign, but I also think we have a lot of homegrown terrorists, as we saw on Wednesday. Kid's a terrorist. I hate to say it, but he is, if, you know, allegedly. If he is the. If we find out that he was the assassin, we have to say allegedly and give the kid a chance. He does get the right to a free trial. A free. A free trial. Not like free. You know what I mean? Fair. How's that got fair trial? So we can't. We can't judge ahead of time. So. All right, I've got more coming up here with Lindy Lee on the Rob Carson Show. Welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. I am Mary Walters, sitting in the seat for Rob Carson on this Friday. Joining us now on the Newsmax hotline, Lindy Lee. She is a political commentator and you can follow her on X, as I do at Lindylee L A N D. Yes. And I'm so excited to get to speak to you. Lindy Lee, welcome to the Rob Carson Show. Hi.

Caller/Guest (59:38)

Hi.

Lindy Lee (59:38)

It's such an honor to join you.

Mary Walter (59:40)

Mary I have to tell you, I don't think I've ever had the opportunity to have you on a show that I've been hosting. And I was really excited, genuinely. And I don't say this to every guest, but I was genuinely excited when I saw that you were going to be on, especially today because of the conversation we're having about these young kids. Just for people who don't know. No, you are a political commentator now. Political, excuse me, conservative political commentator. That's how you are considered now because you were a big fundraiser. You were a bundler for the Democrats. You raised funds for Joe Biden in 2020, even Kamala Harris in 2024. And now you are considered basically a conservative. How did that happen? Just a brief synopsis for people who don't know you.

Lindy Lee (60:29)

Thank you, by the way. That means a lot to me. I've actually been on the conservative wing of the Democratic Party for 10 plus years. The Bernie Sanders Brigade, their Bernie Bros. Attacked me about six years ago because I said the party is going way too left. And so I went to war with the leftist faction of my party, years of my former party years ago. So I've always been on this side as the, the Democratic Party became increasingly socialist and leftist and out of control. So I think I shifted less than, frankly, the Democrats did. Believe it or not, they've just been completely radicalized and almost unrecognizable because when I was a kid and became a Democrat, I'm from suburban Pennsylvania, you know, it was all about everyday Americans, working class values, hard work, moderation. Until the era of Obama kind of accelerated the leftist search. Leftist lurch.

Mary Walter (61:26)

Yeah. No, you're right. And I blame Obama for a lot of where we are right now, you know, but he was so nice and I want to have a beer with.

Lindy Lee (61:32)

Him a while to realize that.

Mary Walter (61:34)

Yeah, you know, it's. We were earlier this hour, we played a cut from a woman. She made a video on Wednesday and she put it out there and she said she part of the conservative or the moderate left. And after what she saw, she said she feels that the radical left now has lost millions of supporters for the Democrat Party. And she says, I think, and she didn't say I have fear. She said, I think that they have created thousands of Charlie Kirks who are now going to want to get out there, are debating. What do you think? Do, do you agree with her? Do you see the same thing happening here?

Lindy Lee (62:17)

Oh, that's spot on. That's totally spot on. I think we are all Charlie Kirk. Now, you know, they. I said this morning, you know, they killed the messenger. But the message indoors, that's how I feel about it. And at least for me, I feel more emboldened and strengthened than ever. In the next couple months, you'll see. I'm going to say a lot of stuff publicly about what happened in the Biden administration that no one has dared to say before. And I'm kind of shocked that it's been a year and they're still pleading the Fifth before Congress, which for me is just atrocious. I have no other words. It's unacceptable. You know, if you held a position of power and influence in the Democratic Party, you need to tell the truth at this point, especially if you were called before House Oversight.

Mary Walter (63:08)

Let me ask you a question, though. The reason, and you would know better than anyone else, the reason they don't tell the truth and the reason they're so brazen, is they know they're never held accountable because the Republicans have no guts whatsoever. So they were never held accountable. They can lie in front of Congress, they can lie with abandon, and they're never, you know, held on. You know, they're never charged with anything when they should be. And they have no sense of shame, I think, because they've been emboldened.

Caller/Guest (63:37)

That's right.

Lindy Lee (63:38)

I also, having been on the inside, can I tell you what I think is going on, too?

Mary Walter (63:44)

Of course.

Lindy Lee (63:45)

They literally think they're right. They think they're the righteous ones and we are the Nazis. I kid you not. They think the right. They think they're fighting against the fascist takeover of this country. So whatever they have to do in service of that, that is fine and forgivable. That's why they lied about Biden's age. That's why they propped up someone who was obviously incompetent in Kama, because everything in service of Orange man bad. That's just how it was.

Mary Walter (64:15)

So, yeah, it's almost like. Isn't there something like with the Muslim religion, they're allowed to lie to non believers? It's okay as long as you're furthering the spread of Islam. It's almost like the same thing.

Caller/Guest (64:29)

Oh, wow.

Lindy Lee (64:29)

I didn't know that. I'm actually Christian. I have no understanding. I don't know about that.

Caller/Guest (64:34)

But.

Lindy Lee (64:34)

Wow, that's actually such an interesting parallel that you brought up. Definitely something like that. You know, it's the realpolitik school of thought. The end justify the means.

Mary Walter (64:47)

Yeah, but. So, but do you see a whittling off of the Democrat Party because they're going to be left with just the crazy wacko left base.

Lindy Lee (65:01)

You're right. And I think it's already. They basically have, from my perspective, no one left. I think, I think I did my part in exposing the celebrity payments. I don't know if you had a chance to see my Shawn Ryan interview, but about seven, eight months ago, I came out and told the truth about where that money went. And everyone called me a liar. And when I said Anita Dunstee Richetti, Mike Donnell and were the ones running the country, everyone's like, oh, she's lying. Well, guess what? They were just dragged before Congress to testify. I wasn't lying. The United States Congress substantiated everything. Every single thing I said. I was just the first to say it. I love how like 7 months later they had nothing to say. But at the time, everyone tried to smear me. But the fact that I, I expose the fact that they wasted 2.5 billion, the fact that they don't have a positive agenda to offer the American people. It's all about trans and woke and dei. They have nothing that the American people actually want. And you know, I think people are starting to see that the party is frankly fraudulent.

Mary Walter (66:05)

Yeah. It's built of lies on sand and eventually it's not going to be able to maintain its base. And I just want to clarify to Takia, it's called. I can't remember what it's called. In Islam they say it's only for specific circumstances, as for when a Muslim's life or safety is at risk. So there's been some bastardization of that. So I just want to make sure that I get the correct definition out there before someone comes after me. So they can't just lie for anything. Yeah. It's only for that.

Lindy Lee (66:36)

So I'm glad you made that correction. I think you bring up a really interesting point. Like yesterday we, you didn't worry about any riots or people burning down cities. Right. But if this were, I mean, we did see what happened with George Floyd. They burned down my street until. So the two sides are not the same at all. And I'm so I'm glad you made the correction because I wouldn't be surprised if someone attacked you for it.

Mary Walter (67:00)

Right, exactly. And I try to be fair. I try. Listen, I'm not a registered Republican. I'm, I don't, I don't sign up for a party that doesn't fight. Right. And to me, in my world, the Republicans don't fight. But I want to ask You. Since, since when you switch sides and you talk about people coming after you. You know, you get criticized all the time. Do you fear for your safety more so now than you did before?

Lindy Lee (67:23)

Yeah. I just told my family yesterday I'm never going to do open air events ever again. I have. I actually. Well, I'll tell you some other time. But I next was going to be a very important year for me and I'm going on tour and so I decided that I'm not going to go anywhere without metal detectors because there's just no point in being dead. Like, I just don't want to die right now. But that is. It's just so sad that I have to think about this and the days of me living in a standalone home are over. I'm just not going to be able to have. I'm just not going to be able to have that.

Mary Walter (68:06)

Right. Let me ask. I was asking the question before you came on, and I think you may have an interesting perspective on this. There was a reporter who was asking various members of Congress on Wednesday after we found out that Charlie was indeed dead, do you think the greatest threat to America now is domestic terrorism or foreign terrorists?

Lindy Lee (68:27)

That's so interesting. I think there's often alliance, though, you know, between the pro Hamas elements and domestic elements. It's hard to, you know, clearly delineate between the two because they're so meshed.

Mary Walter (68:45)

Yeah.

Lindy Lee (68:48)

This is, it's very sad. Your question invokes for me the Ukrainian refugee who is killed by a black criminal who was arrested 14 times. It's interesting that you asked because she literally survived a war zone and then came to North Carolina and then got murdered on public transportation. So I don't know the answer to that question because clearly we're not even clearly more dangerous and treacherous than the war zone. Zone.

Mary Walter (69:22)

Right. But maybe, maybe some of our cities are becoming war zones. You know, that's part of it.

Lindy Lee (69:29)

Saying it. And then they attack me for it. I pin it on George Soros, who's the one who's been funding all these leftist prosecutors.

Mary Walter (69:37)

Interesting that you bring him up. Did you. Interesting that you bring that up. Did you happen to hear. And we're up against the clock here and Brian's gonna start yelling at me, but I could talk to you for a really long time.

Lindy Lee (69:49)

I love talking with you.

Mary Walter (69:50)

So. So did you see on Fox today when Donald Trump was on Fox and Friends this morning, he said that George Soros. Right. You bring him up. George Soros and other groups are fomenting violence and we, we're going to go after them. We're going to start looking into it. Maybe RICO charges.

Lindy Lee (70:06)

Yeah. He also put out a statement about the celebrity payments to a couple months ago. It's like, wow, okay, somebody, I'm so glad my message got out there. You know, it just, I'm really glad that the president of the United States finally vocalizing the insidious effects that Soros and his son Alex are having on our cities. The fact that you can, you can't go outside without worrying, you know, about getting killed, that is not the American way of life. And think that coddling criminals is criminal justice reform. They prioritize the needs of the criminals over everyday law abiding Americans. I think that's sacrilegious. I think that's so wrong.

Mary Walter (70:50)

Yeah, I, and I agree with you and unfortunately I think we're going to see, we're going to see the ultimate play out in New York City. All right. We're up against the clock. I'm so sorry but thank you so much for your time with me. She's a great follow on X. So follow her. Lindy Lee. L I N D Y And thank you for being so brave to do what you did and then have the guts to speak out of it, out about it. And I pray for your safety. I will keep you in my prayers. Thank you so much.

Lindy Lee (71:19)

So kind and God bless you. You are doing the Lord's work. Really you are.

Mary Walter (71:23)

Well, thank you. Thank you. God bless and have a wonderful weekend. We've got more coming up on the Rob Carson Show. And welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. It is Friday. Yes, it's a somber Friday. But you know, I, I believe in talking it out. I do. Oh, and shout out to kcso hitting me up on X. Look for Mary Walter radio. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. Don't forget next hour we have Christian Toto joining us. New movie coming out the Long Walk based on a Stephen King book story. So and I used to love Stephen King. I love his books. I think he's a great writer. Boycott him now. Sorry. Although I have to give him a little credit. I have to give credit where credit is due. We got to be fair. We can't be like them. He did post something awful about Charlie Kirk and he took it down and he said he deleted his tweet and he apologized. So I give him credit. People, man went after them are like that would, you know, you apologize. But that was your, your first gut response, like your first reaction to hearing that this man had been assassinated, family or not. I just thought he was like, but he had a family. I'm like, well, so does that mean if he didn't have a family, it would be less egregious? So, but anyway, they said your first instinct was to get on X and hit the keyboard, you little keyboard warrior, and have at it. That's what's wrong with this country. That's what's wrong. Yeah, I'm. So we're good. Coming up. I'm going to play this. I keep promising to play this media mashup. I swear we're going to get to it. I swear. But I love your call and I love speaking with you and if you want to jump in. So I'm taking those first before I do this audio because you all know what the media says. 800-922-6680. The State Department is saying that they are going to revoke the visas of foreigners who glorify violence after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Deputy Secretary of State Chris Landau put out on X. In light of yesterday's horrific assassination of a leading political figure, I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome. Welcome. Are not welcome visitors to our country. I have been disgusted to see some on social media praising, rationalizing, or making light of the event and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action. Please feel free to bring such comments by foreigners to my attention so that the State Department can protect the American people. In a subsequent post, he said he would direct his consular officials to monitor replies to his ex post calling out foreign nationals in the US on visa who post such rhetoric. Yeah, about time. Because they are. They're violating the rules of their visa. They are not the same as the rest of us. They are not American citizens. And the left just wants to treat everybody, oh, here they have this, they have that. They do race the other Maryland man and all this other stuff. These are the people that they're better than us or they're the same as us. And they're not. They're not. They're here as guests. And there are rules when you come into our home. So coming up, I also have consequences for some other people as well as this mashup that I swear I'm gonna get to here on the Rob Carson Show. And welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. 892 to 6680. Lots to talk about. But I think it's really important to have dialogue like Charlie does. And Charlie, Charlie did. Charlie, Charlie set the stage for having good dialogue. So let's go to George and Fort Meade. George, you're on the Rob Carson Show. Happy Friday.

Caller/Guest (75:25)

Hi. Happy Friday to you. This is the first time I've talked to you. I've talked to Rob once or twice before this kind of hit or miss because I'm in and out of my car. So I don't know is what opinions have been expressed before, but one thing is the things that have annoyed me the most is when a tragedy like this happens, people from the other side of our political beliefs will come out and make what I want to call obligatory statements. Oh, we don't tolerate violence. It has no place in political discourse, et cetera, et cetera. Well, I'm not. One, I'm not sure they really mean it. I think it's just an obligatory statement. They say it because they have to say it. Two, if. If they were really serious about what they say, then what they should do, and this may help, is whenever somebody from their side makes a statement like that, they should come out and personally call that person down or personally confront that individual, then maybe that. Maybe that'll stop. I don't think they will do that because one, going back to my initial statement, I'm not sure they mean it. The obligatory statements they make are that they really mean it. Or two, they're afraid to confront people on their side because they would lose the support that they want. And that concludes my statement.

Mary Walter (77:06)

Yeah, you're right. I don't like the hollowness. I almost applaud people like Ilhan Omar who came out and just like, was flat out, you know.

Caller/Guest (77:16)

Yeah.

Mary Walter (77:16)

While Charlie Kirk was a liar. Just didn't bother with the triteness and the usual things that they put out there. It's almost better when they drop the mask. Right? Like, then we see it and we know exactly who you are. They don't care. Right. We were just talking with Lindy. They don't care. They. They really, truly believe that they hold the holy high ground, which is why they're such elitists. Right. They talk down to us like we're idiots, which is why they demean us. We're stupid, we're rednecks, we're morons, we're imbeciles, we're fascists, we're rapists, we're. We're a threat to democracy. We're white nationalists, we're far right extremists. Just on and on and on and on and on. And this is what. Remember not to make. I hate making this comparison. This is what Hitler did in World War II. He demeaned the Jews as dogs and pigs and less than because it makes it easier to go after them. And people will cheer because they don't mean anything. It's really rough. Got one more hour left. You're listening to the Rob Carson Show.

Caller/Guest (78:22)

This is the Rob Carson Show.

Mary Walter (78:28)

It is Friday. And welcome to the Rob Carson Show. I am Mary Walters sitting in for Rob, who's taking a nice long extended weekend, which he deserves. So good for him. And we have Christian Toto coming up this later this hour to talk about the long walk. It's a new movie coming out based on a Stephen King tale, a book by Stephen King speaking, which I found that the tweet that he took down. Hold on, I have it. He defiant elves retweeted what he put out and it said was a tweet by Charlie Kirk. Someone tweeted defiant else tweeted out, I believe, retweeted out an old Charlie Kirk tweet that said, I believe marriage is one man and one woman. Also, gay people should be welcome in the conservative movement. As Christians, we are called to love everyone. I will always stand against people who wish to establish their own personal values as a reason to kick others out of our movement. And Stephen King retweeted that and said he advocated stoning gays to death. Just saying. And so defy an L. Retweeted everything and said, I'd say Stephen King should be ashamed of himself, but what's the point? So Stephen King retweeted all of it and said, I was wrong and I apologize. I have deleted the post. And then people, of course, go after Stephen King saying, yeah, but I will forgive you because Charlie Kirk would have. This is Matt Van Swall. But I'm so angry. Don't you see? Why can't you see it yet? What will it take for you to wake up Defiant else forming an opinion of someone based only on what people in your own bubble say is a really bad idea. I hope you realized that. I don't know if they're going to realize it. I don't know. So I wanted. I keep saying I was going to get to this cut for two hours now. So I want to get to it. It's cut to. This is a mashup of what the media and the left have been saying about us. This goes to, I think plays a huge role in demonizing your opponent, making them less. And it gives the people on the fringe of their party, people who believe them, the impetus the Justification the belief that they are correct. As Lindy Lee said, they truly believe that what they think is absolutely true. Like, they truly believe this. And so the ones who are maybe less stable will act on it. And then they go, well, we didn't tell them to do it. Like, no, but you, you, you, you demonized your political opponents as less than, as horrible people. And you, and, and the media carries it. So here's the media carrying the left's hate for them.

Caller/Guest (81:17)

This means war. That is where we are. We are at war with these people. These folks are evil. There is an ultra right MAGA contention and this comes country that wants to overthrow the US Government.

Mary Walter (81:32)

It is a danger to our democracy. It is a danger to our way of life.

Caller/Guest (81:37)

The MAGA movement is a threat. The extremists that we're dealing with every single day, we've got to kill and confront that movement. Clearly, you know, this is a literally call to arms.

Mary Walter (81:49)

Obviously Republicans, I think, are the biggest threat to democracy. We don't separate right wing extremists and Republican party anymore.

Caller/Guest (81:56)

I see this as a party, a MAGA party that no longer is confident that they can win elections with votes. And so now they're seeking to enact their political will through violence. This is literally what conservative white folks do when they don't get their way, they turn violent. Today's GOP is no longer a political movement. It is a fascist movement. And this is why it could be more dangerous than 1860 or the 1930s. Clearly, you know, this is a literally call to arms. Maybe now it is all about the violence. It all is about an insurrection. It all is in his mind about a civil war.

Mary Walter (82:34)

It feels like we are not just at the brink of a civil war, but that one has already begun.

Caller/Guest (82:39)

The fact that the base is getting smaller, it makes it more dangerous in a lot of ways because those are the people who are willing to do things like take up arms and, and press the questions that lead to press the questions and tactics that lead to civil war. This is someone who held that office who was basically saying to Americans there should be civil war.

Mary Walter (82:58)

Did you hear the escalation? Start with their evil, right? We're evil. Evil. Well, someone's evil. You want to get rid of evil, right? Someone who's not mentally balanced wants to get rid of evil. Someone who truly believes this. The left is driving these people to this with their message, and they're allowed to say it over and over and over again with zero accountability. Some of those were public politicians, Democrats who were Saying that. I'm sure you recognized Ilhan Omer's voice in there. We are, they are a danger to our democracy. They are a danger to our lives. How many times we hear about this is a call to arms. That was Ilhan Omar. This is a call to arms. They are a danger to our democracy. They are violent. Gosh, we're violent. We're a danger to your life. We're a danger to our democracy. This is a call to arms. Well, now do you see where people who maybe aren't all there kind of put it together, people who are very easily susceptible to two thoughts like this, or people who are constantly being told the same thing over and over and over again, you start to believe it. Conservative whites are violent. It's about a civil war. That's where they end. This is a civil war. Maybe we're already in a civil war. So we went from, you know, they're evil to maybe we're already in a civil war. That is the way that they're rhetorically has gone. So I want to ask you, where do we go from here? I mean, how do we, how do we, how do we move on from this? I asked this question on X the other day. How do we move this? And I'll tell you, I have a very dear friend and she is born and raised Democrat. She's not changing at her age. I love her to death. So we just don't talk politics. And I have not been able to talk to her. We call, we talk to each other once a week. And I just. And like I said, I love her.

Lindy Lee (84:44)

But.

Mary Walter (84:44)

But our call on Tuesday got put off to Wednesday and I just text her, said, I can't talk right now. I just can't talk right now. And she said, I understand. And you know, I just haven't been able to talk to her because I'm afraid she's going to say something that's going to make me want to reach through the phone. It's going to make me angry and I really don't want to be angry at her. And she's not going to do it purposely. This is just how she was brought up. You know, she's older. It's how she was brought up. She's not changing. Like I said, at her age, this is it. She want, you know, she reads the Washington Post, for God's sakes. You know, and so, you know, this is who she. It's not change. And her son's the same way. And I can't talk to her. And I'm going to, I'll talk to her next week and I'm just gonna say I don't, I don't, I don't want to talk about it and that's it. And we'll just not go on. But I can't have the conversation with her. So how do we move forward other than okay, we're just not going to talk about it? 800-922-6680. Let's go to New Hampshire. Greg, welcome. You're on the Rob Carson Show. Hi.

Caller/Guest (85:48)

How you doing, Mary?

Mary Walter (85:50)

Good, good. Go ahead.

Caller/Guest (85:53)

This is kind of like a riddle. I had a discussion a couple weeks ago with a Democrat, but, and it's about the shootings. If, if there was six Democrats sitting on one side of a table and six conservatives sitting on the other side of the table and there was a rock, a stick, a knife and a gun, which, which one of those instruments would kill the quickest?

Mary Walter (86:22)

Mm. Okay. And you asking me that riddle.

Caller/Guest (86:26)

Yeah.

Mary Walter (86:27)

Well, none of those instruments would kill anyone because the person has to do it.

Caller/Guest (86:31)

That's right. And that's what we were talking about. We were talking about gun laws and all that. He says, oh, we need more red flag laws and all that stuff. No, we need to help the people that need the mental health.

Mary Walter (86:43)

Yeah.

Caller/Guest (86:43)

And, and as conservatives and Democrats or we all, we all need to help help these people out.

Mary Walter (86:54)

So I like the idea, by the way. I'm keeping that. I'm using that riddle. I'm using that. I like it. Yeah, I like it. I'd never heard that before. I really like that. So, so, but here's the problem with that. That sounds great. But there are a lot of people who aren't, deemed, you know, mentally ill because they just, you know, their, their only mental quote unquote illness is that they truly believe that people who disagree with them are evil and a danger, et cetera. But otherwise they're totally there. They're not schizophrenic or anything else. So how do you tell issue that.

Caller/Guest (87:30)

Is a mental health issue. If you think, if you think you're, you're a better human being than somebody else, it's a mental health issue.

Mary Walter (87:38)

Yeah. They would never admit that they think that they're better.

Caller/Guest (87:40)

We're all created equal. I'm not a super, I'm not a super religious person, but we're all created equal.

Mary Walter (87:46)

Yeah.

Caller/Guest (87:47)

And that's in our Constitution. And these people really need to calm down.

Mary Walter (87:51)

Yeah, No, I agree. No, I totally agree with you.

Caller/Guest (87:56)

That's all I got to say.

Mary Walter (87:57)

Yeah, no, thank you, Greg.

Caller/Guest (87:59)

Tell Rob that riddle too.

Mary Walter (88:01)

I will, I will. Although he's probably listening because, you know, he can't not listen. So he's probably listening and knows the answer now.

Caller/Guest (88:07)

Yeah, I've been listening to him since he came on the ad.

Mary Walter (88:12)

Oh, good, that's great. I'll be sure to tell him. That's fantastic. That's wonderful.

Caller/Guest (88:18)

When you fill in, when you fill in your. Excellent.

Mary Walter (88:21)

Thank you. I do appreciate that. They have a wonderful weekend. Try to have some fun this week and try to smile. We're gonna go out with friends later because we all feel the same way and we're like, we need to go out and we're gonna go to our little local bar and we're gonna have a drink and then we're gonna have dinner together and we're gonna try to, you know, we're gonna laugh, you know, kind of clear our minds because I think that has to be done. And yeah, I think these people are mentally ill to a certain extent, but I think it's very hard to, to get them, quote, unquote, diagnosed. I just don't see that happening. Happening. Let's go to George in California. George, welcome. You're on the Rob Carson Show. Hi.

Caller/Guest (88:55)

Hello. Well, I'm in. Mary.

Mary Walter (88:57)

Mary.

Caller/Guest (88:59)

Yeah. To ask, how did we get from conservatives over the past, I'd say 15 years, although it started earlier than that. I just don't think a lot of people were noticing it. I was noticing it everywhere. But let's just play it Safe and say 15 years ago to politicians. Well, okay. Conservatives making a point, a point of view that doesn't involve any violence, any threat, just it doesn't agree with the left, let's say being penalized and even often resulting in prosecutions just for speech, which is nonviolent to politicians having free liberty to threaten and call for death and call for like the whirlwind and we're going to take you out tonight and stuff like that. They freely could advocate violence. And I believe this 22 year old was following those battle cries from those leaders that were saying that publicly. The whole world heard it. It's been repeated. Why is there such a gap where, where we're persecuted for what we say and there's no threats involved to them being able to advocate violence and not be held accountable. Why I was going to ask for your interpretation of that gap.

Mary Walter (90:23)

So I think what happened, so here's what I think happened. It's a multitude of things. They were very smart in planning out Their takeover, you know, who was it who said we'll. So the communists were going to take over America without firing a shot? Was that Khrushchev said that what they did is what was the first thing. They took over our schools. Right. Jimmy Carter put in the nea. We nationalized the schools. And so that was the first thing that was taken over. Now teachers are all, what, 98% Democrat, liberal. And you've seen what they've been teaching our kids. And. And parents were asleep at the wheel. We've got two parents working now. Back in the day when there was one parent working, it was a little bit different, but we've got two parents working. How many parents actually before COVID before they knew what was being taught in the classroom, how many parents actually talk to their kids about what did you learn at school today? Probably not very many. Families don't even eat dinner together. When I was a kid, you had to talk about every day. You had to talk about your classes, you had to talk about what you did at school. My father sat there, my mother sat there, and we had to talk and tell them what we were learning. They helped us with our homework. Parents dropped the ball. So we dropped the ball. By allowing the nationalization, the federalization of the education system, we allowed, allowed the liberals to come in and take over the classrooms. Parents didn't pay attention to what was being taught. So now you have an entire generation coming up who has been radicalized by the left at every level from kindergarten all the way through. And they just kept pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and we allowed it to happen.

Caller/Guest (91:47)

So, yeah, there's one more example very quickly, okay, this man on the rail train, that's Stab, the Ukrainian immigrant lady. Well, Andrea Yates got off on insanity and she's got the Brian Coburger stare. So he's going to get off on insanity. I mean, That's. That's.

Mary Walter (92:11)

Yeah, 100%, absolutely. He's going to plead insane. He may not get off. He may do the rest of it. He's not going to get the death penalty. He'll do the rest of his life in prison. But you're right, he's going. He's going to get off on, quote, unquote, get off of the death penalty. But they're gonna plead insanity. Absolutely, 100%. George, thank you so much. Gotta run. We'll get more of your calls coming up. And Nancy Mace said something. I want to play that for you coming up and see if you agree. That's next on the Rob Carson Show. Welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. Coming up, we're gonna take a break from all this. We're gonna talk to Christian Toto, find out about a new movie that's coming out. I also want to ask him about another movie that is coming out as well. So we're gonna talk to him about that. I'm not a big moviegoer person, but every now and then a movie comes along that interests me. Before we do that, I want to just play this very quickly for you. This is Nancy Mace again. This was outside of Congress on the 12th, the. The 10th. Excuse me. When Charlie was assassinated, this was after they knew that he had. Had passed away. And. Well, just listen and I'm going to ask you if you agree with her. Here's Nancy Mace. There was an invisible line that was crossed in the last 48 hours when you had the video of the young white girl on the train in Charlotte, Ukrainian Irana Zaruska murdered in cold blood. And nobody did anything. And then we have Charlie Kirk 24 hours later. He was so vocal. And the media, you guys in the mainstream media were attacking Charlie Kirk in the 24 hours before he was murdered, before he was assassinated. And I do think an invisible line was crossed yesterday. You guys in the press call me the most transphobe member of Congress. Turns out that there were transgender anti fascist things that were engraved in the ammunition and in the rifle that was apprehended and found. I and I will not be doing any outdoor events anytime soon. If you have a differing difference of opinion from the left, they want to kill you. That is a fact. And that's the way you all should report it. Charlie Kirk was assassinated. He was murdered for his beliefs. And this is a guy you guys in the Democrat Party want a national conversation. Charlie Kirk literally had a peaceful national conversation. That is the movement that he created. And he loved it when kids would come to his events and would have differing opinions and they would peacefully have a debate. Not even a debate. I would call it a colloquy. I would call it a conversation that we could have. And he made kids who were Democrats, who were on the left side of the aisle, he made them better debaters because he was a great orator. He was good with facts. He was educating people from all walks of life. And he was murdered for doing the very thing you Democrats want us on the Republican Party side to do. And I'm done with it. I'm done. It cannot go on anymore. And we've got to be more vigilant. Yeah, I love that she calls the reporters you Democrats. Right. The gloves are off, but has a line been crossed? Like, it really felt Wednesday that like a line had been crossed, that something is different. Things have changed now. I don't feel that way as much anymore. But I think with the funeral, that feeling is going to come back like they've gone too far. Like, like a lot. As I said, a line has been crossed. So I want to know how you feel about that. 800-922-6680 or you can reach out to me on X at Mary Walter Radio. Has a line been crossed? Is it different now? Because I'll tell you right now, I don't believe that the Democrats, the left is going to change a darn thing. I truly don't. I think they are going to keep saying what they say. You saw Ilhan Omar, that they're going to keep doing what they do. I want to play. Do we have time? Oh, I don't have time for this. All right. Well, we've got, we've got Christian Toto coming up on the other side. And I do have very quickly, let's just go to cut five. This is Joe Rogan when he was on the air and found out about Charlie Kirk. He's with a guest that he had on with him, Charlie Sheen. So here's Joe Rogan.

Caller/Guest (96:30)

There's gonna be a lot of people celebrating this.

Mary Walter (96:32)

Cut five.

Caller/Guest (96:33)

It's so scary. It's so dangerous, too, to, to, to celebrate or to in any way encourage this kind of behavior from human beings. It's not a violent guy who's talking, talking to people in college campuses wasn't even particularly rude. He's tried to be pretty reasonable with people. Everything I saw seemed reasonable. Very intelligent guy. Yeah. You know, whether you agree with him or don't, and there's a lot of stuff that I didn't agree with him on. That's fine. You're allowed to disagree with people without celebrating the fact they got shot.

Mary Walter (97:09)

You know, and you, you know that Joe knew Charlie. And no matter what people say to you in the coming days and weeks about this, just remember, remind them Charlie Kirk was using words. He was shot and killed, assassinated, because he was exercising his right to free speech. They killed him for exercising the First Amendment. Just remember that. Coming up, Christian Tottenham. We'll take a break here on the Rob Carson Show. And welcome back to the Rob Carson show on this Friday. I'm Mary Walter sitting in the seat for Rob. Rob will be back with you on Monday. Joining us now on the Newsmax hotline, it's Christian Toto, Daily Wire and Blaze contributor. He's the host of the Hollywood in Toto podcast and you can find him on X at Hollywood in Toto. So there you go. Christian, thank you so much for joining me. Great to talk to you always.

Caller/Guest (98:25)

Oh, glad to be here. Thanks so much.

Mary Walter (98:27)

So couple new movies out now. I will. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a big movie going person because going to the movie theater, like, seriously, it's just a mess now. People bring their kids. The kids are crying. People got the. They're talking on their phones. It's a disaster. But we have a nice little theater near us. I think we've talked about it before. It's owned by Kevin Smith from Jay and Silent Bob. And I love it. It's like an old family theater. And he bought it. It went out during COVID and he bought it from the family and it is the whole old timey theater experience and I love it. So I'm now I go to the movies.

Caller/Guest (99:05)

So it's a great idea. I'm glad he's doing that. Also, the Alamo Drafthouse chain is really good. I mean, they have a no texting, no talking policy and they mean it. So you would think that would be something that maybe like a big AMC style chain would do. Say, hey, let's have theaters. Like the 8 o' clock showing will be for people who want to watch the movie. And then the 9 o' clock will be for bring your phones, bring your kids, whatever you want. Like, I think that would be a value add, honestly. But we're not there yet.

Mary Walter (99:32)

Yeah, we're not there. So. So we love this. I was so sad when this little theater went out of business because the kids were working like the popcorn machine and the candy and stuff like that. And dad's taking the tickets. It was a huge family thing. So thank goodness for Kevin Smith because I can't imagine he's making money on this thing. So. But anyway, so this is where I can go to see movies. So two movies that are out that I want to talk about. Obviously. The first one is the Long Walk. It's a ste. It's based on the Stephen King novel of the same name, the Long Walk Walk. And it's, it's a, it's a horror movie, of course, because it's Stephen King. But it's a super interesting concept and it involves. It's kind of like a Hunger Games type thing. But they have contestants. And this is after A civil war in the country. And they build this as a way for poor people to make money. And they have to make. They have to walk and maintain a continuous speed of 3 mph while walking along a set path. And if they. They slow down, if they stop for any reason, they're just that. I think they get a couple of warnings, but then they just get sh. Shot on site, and that's how they eliminate the people from the game. So it's very brutal, but very Stephen King. So have you seen this movie?

Caller/Guest (100:37)

I have, and it's terrific. And I have to say, I saw it with a friend, and as I walked, I said, you know, that's. I called it a heavy fit. It's just a heavy movie. I mean, you just described the plot. It's very simple. It's very straightforward, and it's. It's tough to endure in a way, but it's very well crafted. Good acting across the board. A youthful cast. I think most people won't know them. I wasn't super familiar with the actors besides Mark Hamill, who's playing a heavy and doing a great job of it. But it's both bleak and terrifying and dystopian. And yet there's a sense of joy or a sense of live every moment in the film. And it's very hard to even kind of describe that, given the story. But the Walkers, they connect with one each other, they help each other at times, and they. They're just. They realize that life is so fleeting. And there's something kind of oddly beautiful about that. But again, very dark, very bleak. It's a tough one. But having said all that, I just thought it was really done, well done. And, you know, it's. It's got that Stephen King sound. You know, his dialogue is very specific. And I, you know, whether they took some of the dialogue directly from the book, I'm not sure. But also you mentioned that the Hunger Games, same director, by the way.

Mary Walter (101:48)

Oh, really?

Caller/Guest (101:49)

Yeah. So there's. No. Not an accident here. I guess he's attracted to some interesting material, but well worth a look. But again, you know, if you're going out on a Saturday night, it's. It's a little. It's a little intense, but, you know, you're warned.

Mary Walter (102:01)

Yeah, right. It would for me, based on everything that's just been happening in the last three days, I would not be able to handle this this weekend.

Caller/Guest (102:09)

Yeah, I don't believe you. Obviously. I've been watching Modern Family reruns the last two nights because I'VE been in such a state.

Mary Walter (102:15)

Yes.

Caller/Guest (102:16)

That. And just desperate for distractions. And I've been. Gosh, I've been laughing so much. That show was brilliant. And it's just the medicine. I read right now.

Mary Walter (102:24)

And that's so funny that you say that. I was saying earlier, my husband's off today. And so, you know, I got ready for the show, and then, of course, I had to watch the presser and edited stuff. And it's just. I've just been crying. Every single day, something pops up, and I just start, you know, just bawling, really, at something that really shouldn't make me cry. But that's just where I am emotionally right now. Now. And he's the same way, you know, so we're both in the boat together. We. I said. So we sat down, have breakfast, and I said, can we watch something that's not political? And he's. He said, absolutely. And we're catching up on Abbott Elementary.

Caller/Guest (102:58)

Oh, okay.

Mary Walter (102:59)

We did. We did kind of like the same thing that you did. Like, I just. I had to turn my phone off. I had to get away from the phone. I had to get away from X. I had to get away from the tv. I had to just decompress. And so this is not the movie to do that with, I assume.

Caller/Guest (103:14)

Yeah. No, I agree. It's funny. It's a very good movie. Like I said, I wonder what the box office will be. And there's a very pragmatic approach to film, but I don't know collectively as a country that we're ready for this kind of a experience, even though, again, I really recommend the movie.

Mary Walter (103:29)

Yeah. Bad timing for. For the release, but how would they know? But here's another thing that I wonder if it impacts the box office office. Mark Hamill as the lead character who has just trashed everybody on my side. Why would I want to give him my money? And Stephen King, Same thing. I mean, he got caught trashing something, writing something terrible about Charlie Kirk, and he got called out on it, and he rescinded and said, I'm really sorry, but why would anyone on, you know, on the right want to give Mark Hamill and Stephen King money? I think that's a problem.

Caller/Guest (104:00)

It's a problem. I get it. I think they do it to themselves. And you know what? Funny, I just wrote about the Stephen King situation. I, you know, talked about him apologizing. Wasn't good for him. He did apologize. Many, many celebrities don't even go near that. Having said that, you know, he's Got a pretty big movie this weekend. I don't know how much he's invested in it. It's his story. I don't know whether he gets part of the profits or nothing or just kind of looking at his brand and, you know, a story that he obviously cares about. And a little part of me was thinking, does he do that? Because he knew that his movie's opening this weekend and it's not a good look. But yeah, I just, you know. Oh, yes, you can be political. You can share your thoughts. You know, we don't want to censor anyone. And Mark Hamill can say, I disagree with Trump on X, Y, and Z perfectly fine. But a lot of these stories take it to an extreme.

Mary Walter (104:44)

Yes.

Caller/Guest (104:44)

I think that's where the problems begin.

Mary Walter (104:47)

Exactly. And Mark Hamill has taken it to an extreme. He's. He's taken it to crazy town, and that is a problem. I think you're absolutely right. And then. But the thing is, is probably Mark Hamill gets paid no matter how much money it brings in. Like, he's. He's made his money, so off he goes. He doesn't care. Care?

Caller/Guest (105:02)

Yeah. You know, it's a shame because he's really turned in some good performances. He's terrific in this movie. He's the heavy, he's the villain. And even the way he uses his voice. And he's been a good voice actor for years, besides being on screen. But also he was in. Had a smaller part in the Life of Chuck, which nobody saw, came out a few weeks ago. And it was a. Interesting film. Challenging. It really was hard to describe another Stephen King story, by the way, and he was terrific in that movie. He was mesmerizing. So, you know, I just listen, he's a good actor. I grew up watching Star Wars. I'm that generation. But, dear Lord, can you please be. Speak responsibly and stop trying to divide us? It just. It just doesn't go well.

Mary Walter (105:41)

Yeah, absolutely. So can I hold you over? Can you hang? Because I have another movie to ask you about. Okay. Fantastic. Yay. So we're going to keep this a little bit later. And we've got more coming up with Christian Toto right here on the Rob Carson Show. And welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. Let's go back to the Newsmax hotline where Christian Toto is here with us. He is a Daily Wire and Blaze contributor. He's the host of the Hollywood in Toto podcast. And you can find him on X at Hollywood. And Toto, he's A great follow. So the other movie that I want to talk to you about is the Downton Abbey movie that is come. It's out, right? It just came. It came out what, today? Right?

Caller/Guest (106:25)

Yeah.

Mary Walter (106:25)

Yes, comes out. Okay, so it comes out today. So I was a big Downton Abbey fan, Loved, says this is the grand finale. I kind of thought the last one was the finale, but this is the grand finale. Is this really, really, really the final one?

Caller/Guest (106:42)

You know, I never know. I think that's the plan. I think that that's the setup. You know, I think a week ago we had the Conjuring Last Rites, which was the fourth film in that series. And that film ends. And not a spoiler, but in a way that's very clear that they want to wrap the series up. It's. It's just very clear. I think the filmmakers have said this is. This is the end. And then the movie made roughly a gajillion dollars. So I don't know if it's going to be the end or not. So I think with the Downton Abbey series, I think the box office us will tell. But, you know, the Downton Abbey films to date, I think one or two of them, I think, you know, have done fine, but I don't think they're blockbusters. So if they're saying this is, again, I suspect unless there's a really big upswell groundswell, I think this will be it.

Mary Walter (107:26)

Okay. But I was wondering how much the Gilded Age, which is like, kind of like their new projects by the same people who did Downton Abbey, if the Gilded Age, which is becoming very popular on hbo, is kind of going to be the next thing, you know, the next one. Although I will say the acting in the Gilded Age I don't think is as good as the acting in Downton Abbey. Just me.

Caller/Guest (107:44)

Yeah. And, you know, it also could be the kind of thing where they maybe take a few years off and they kind of revisit some of the characters you need. My gosh. Hollywood loves remakes, reboots, reimaginings, sequels, prequels. Anything with an IP and intellectual property that can be exploited is gold. So you just can't count any franchise out. They're making a new, I think, a sequel to the Last Witch Hunter, which was a Vin Diesel bomb from several years ago. Even Michael Kane is coming out of quasi retirement to co star again. So anything goes in Hollywood.

Mary Walter (108:15)

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I kind of figure, you know, they've run out of ideas. That's why they keep making remakes and remakes and remakes. And, you know, the remake is never as good as the original, but yet they insist on continuing to do it. So the question. Have you seen the Downton Abbey movie?

Caller/Guest (108:30)

You know, I haven't. I wasn't. I wasn't a loyal watcher of the show. I did kind of do some homework before the last film, which I enjoyed a lot. So, you know, I'm just. Honestly, I'm stretched pretty thin on most days trying to catch up with the latest movies and TV shows, so I. I can't watch it all. But listen, it's beloved. It's beloved for a reason. It's been a. A genuinely classy drama, great performances, and it's touches people. So I love all the above.

Mary Walter (108:58)

Okay, so let's. Let's switch to tv. Since you mentioned tv, if you do not mind. What are you watching now? What are some of your faves?

Caller/Guest (109:06)

Gosh, you know, I just started the Paper, which is a new Office spinoff. It's on Peacock, and it's fine. It's enjoyable, but it's modest and it's certainly nowhere near what the Office was, or even Parks and Rec, which had I a very similar style. You know, it's just, again, it's. It's trying to bank off that. That connection. But, you know, the Office had Steve Carell and Rainn Wilson, and they. Their performances as Michael Scott and Dwight were just legendary, and there's nothing in this new show that comes near that. And, you know, I also want to give shows a little bit of room to roam, because sometimes, you know, the first season of Seinfeld wasn't really Seinfeld. It was. It was good, but it didn't really kind of kick in yet. So some of these shows do need a little bit of. A little bit of time to kind of figure out what they are, what they're trying to share. And I think some of the characters in this new show, the Paper, feel that way. It's a little bit. The sketch isn't complete yet, so I give it some time. You know, if people watch it, I think they'll enjoy to a very modest degree. But, yeah, I'm going back to Modern Family.

Mary Walter (110:08)

So that's why you're watching the rewrites. Modern Family was epic. They had the best writers.

Lindy Lee (110:12)

Yeah.

Caller/Guest (110:13)

You know, the writing is so good and so consistent. I think maybe the last season was a little. Little bit. A little bit weak. Maybe some of the age was showing. But those shows are dense. I mean, it's. And the cast was superlative. Everyone Every time you think, oh, that, you know, Julie Bowen's the best, she's a standout, then, you know, Ed o' Neill pops up and he's hysterical, Then Canon Mitch are on screen and you're laughing and you know, one of the things I loved about the gay couple in that show is they were very flawed. They were silly. They were too emotional at times, they were crude at times. They were, they were. And I think that was what you get with kind of non woke storytelling. We have flawed, relatable characters that are funny and lovable. And I, I think the show did that quite well. As opposed to, oh, they're stoic and they're brave and they're making lectures about this and that and you know, we don't want that. We want just funny.

Mary Walter (111:00)

You know, it's almost like. Because even when we watch just since we're watching Abbott elementary now, that comes to mind. You know, every now and then there's like a political statement that kind of gets in there and it bothers me. Like I would think that Hollywood would have learned by now that we don't want to shove down our throats. And I think that sometimes they just can't help themselves, which is why I love reality TV. I'm totally into the whole 90 Day Fiance franchise, the whole thing, the Hunt for Love, the whole thing. Because to me it's free therapy. Like, there's people out there who make worse decisions than I do and. And it restores my faith in my ability because I can see the train on the tracks and I'm like, dude, this is really not a good idea. And they do it anyway. So it's not political. So I kind of like those things. I think we're clamoring for more of that.

Caller/Guest (111:49)

Yeah, we are. And you know, Hollywood can't help itself. It's staggering at times. You think this is counterintuitive. Why would you do that? And often, listen, there are stories that maybe sneak in something, but often if it's woke up in expertly and it's not hitting yourself, hitting you over the head, then that's fine. It can make the story richer, more interesting. You know, the Long Walk talks about income inequality to a certain degree, certainly government overage. There's, there's stuff in there, but I felt it was just part of the overall story. It didn't hit you over the head. It didn't stop. Didn't stop the story itself. I mean, I think it's one of the things that's the most annoying is when a movie basically shuts down. Just you can hear the lecture. And that just drives me crazy. But like you said, I think we are, I think the audience is over that completely. And I think Hollywood is starting to get the message. Starting.

Mary Walter (112:36)

Yeah. Well, I guess they had maybe sometimes have to hit rock bottom before. It's kind of like what they had, what they did with Snow White. Right? Look at Snow White.

Caller/Guest (112:44)

Snow White is rock bottom. We can all say that at this point.

Mary Walter (112:49)

Christian Toto, I just so enjoy you. Thank you so much for joining me today on the ROB Carson show and you have a wonderful week weekend and enjoy your endless episodes of Modern Family.

Caller/Guest (113:00)

That is the plan. Thanks so much.

Mary Walter (113:03)

Thank you. You can follow him on XSET Hollywood in Toto. Super easy. We're going to wrap it up here. Coming up on the Rob Carson show, I just want to clear up a couple things about Tyler Robinson. He's the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination. It had been reported that his father was in law enforcement. He is not. He's a construction worker and care worker and his mom, he runs a family owned construction company and his mom works for Intermountain Support Coordination Services to help disabled people receive care. Both parents are registered Republicans. So I just wanted to clear that up because I had said the wrong thing. By the way, he was not a student at Utah Valley University. He had done so. He had gotten a scholarship to the University of Utah, Utah University, and he was in his third year at a technical school when the shooting occurred. Also, conservative students now at Boston University sent a letter to the president of the university asking for protection for their upcoming Republican events. They want appropriate security and they also want students who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death and promoting violence, violence on campus to be held accountable. They say the university has fostered a culture where conservative students feel intimidated to share their views. They said at bu, conservative students have long been marginalized, silenced by fear of intimidation. And they are most likely right. Also in Florida, the governor, Ron DeSantis, his administration and the Florida Department of Education have announced that investigation to every and that's in capital letters, teacher who celebrates Charlie Kirk's death and threatens govern yourselves accordingly. Accordingly, we will hold teachers who choose to make disgusting comments about the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk accountable. Govern yourselves accordingly. And so it looks like they're gonna, they're gonna investigate single one of them. And they may be looking for teachers in Florida that may very well be coming along here. I want to just want to share with you this JK Rowling posted this and I think it's really important. She posted. If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you're illiberal. If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you're a fundamentalist. If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you're a totalitarian. If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you're a terrorist. And it's perfect. She's absolutely right. And that goes for both sides. She didn't say which side. She just made those statements, which absolutely are true. The left has become very ill liberal. The people who say they, you know, they call themselves liberal have become very ill liberal. So some good news. KJP arrived at the house over for her to answer some questions about Joe Biden. President Pudding pants. What did you know? When did you know it? Did you really totally think that he was okay? How many times did you see him? She's going to be answering all of those questions. Also Planned Parenthood and appeals court has ruled that Planned Parenthood can be defunded. The defunding can proceed. But lastly, President Trump last night Yankee Stadium. Here's the reaction of the crowd.

Caller/Guest (116:42)

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Mary Walter (116:43)

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