From Weed Wars to World Wars: Rob Carson’s Wild Ride Through Politics

Summary

The Rob Carson Show – From Weed Wars to World Wars: Rob Carson’s Wild Ride Through Politics

Date: October 20, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Main Guest: Gordon G. Chang, China analyst and author

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show delivers its trademark blend of humor, sharp political commentary, and cultural hot takes, even as live streaming faces technical issues. Host Rob Carson (longtime comedy writer for Rush Limbaugh) navigates through a whirlwind of topics: razor-thin political races in Virginia, evolving China-U.S. dynamics with Gordon Chang, the growing cultural annoyances connecting weed and undergarments, and his ever-present skepticism toward mainstream narratives. With election season in full swing and global challenges shifting, Carson and Chang dissect everything from weed lawsuits in DC to “soybean wars” with China, mixing pop culture, mockery, and interviews for an energetic and pointed hour.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Virginia Election Showdowns

• Rob Carson launches into the tight races in Virginia, using characteristic humor and name-calling to highlight Republican optimism and Democratic missteps.
  • Winsome Sears vs. Abigail Spanberger
    • Carson (01:40): “Gutter Winsome Sears running against Abigail Spamberger. That’s what I call her because she’s no meat, just filler and bad for you.”
    • Donald Trump audio (04:07): “I think the Republican candidate is very good and I think she should win because the Democrat candidate’s a disaster... your energy is going to double and triple [under Democrats].”
  • Attorney General Race (Jason Miyares vs. Jay Jones)
    • Carson discusses controversy over Jay Jones’ violent texts, expressing disbelief at Democratic tolerance.
    • Carson hammers Democrats for hypocrisy in their handling of candidates with problematic associations (timing of information releases, party priorities).
    • Memorable quote: “He is a sick man. What he said in his text would disqualify you from a background check in law enforcement. He should not be the AG for the state of Virginia.” (05:54)
• John Reed’s DIY Campaign Ad
  • Carson praises Republican LT. Gov hopeful John Reed for writing his own campaign ad, likening him to “Mr. Smith.”
  • Ad sample (09:51): “I'm John Reed, candidate for lieutenant governor, and I wrote this ad. Every generation faces a choice. Strength or surrender, courage or cowardice.”

2. Shutdowns & Trump’s Popularity

• Carson contrasts public reaction to Trump-era shutdowns, arguing the current climate doesn’t damage Trump’s standing.
  • Guest commentator (12:28): “[Trump’s] net approval rating is actually up a point…this shutdown hasn’t even [hurt] his support at all.”
  • Carson (13:16): “The Democrats are so incredibly full of crap…trying to get him thrown in jail for 700 years, taking his fortune and then trying to murder him…”

3. Satire and Music Parodies

• Trump parody song mocking Democrats for shutdowns, co-written with Jim Gossett (14:03):
  • Noteworthy lyrics: “Blame the shutdown on the Democrats. Schumer cannot be trusted. Schumer shut down. Fighting for illegals to get free health care.”
  • Carson (after the song): “If you’d like to help Jim Gossett out, patreon.com/jimgossettcomedy.”

4. Weed Lawsuits & ‘Stupid’ Culture

• Carson riffs on the omnipresence (and smell) of marijuana, highlighting a D.C. legal win by an elderly woman over neighbor’s excessive smoking.
  • Carson (15:13): “Weed never smells good. I don’t care if you’re a major pothead…Nobody needs a contact high.”
• Launches his “Not Catching the Stupid” segment, satirizing news like Kim Kardashian’s new underwear line (with fake pubic hair):
  • Carson (18:34): “Kim Kardashian’s skims just dropped thongs…micro string thongs with faux pubic hair. My God in heaven.”

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In-depth Interview: China with Gordon G. Chang

(23:00 – 38:26)

a. Western Executives Return from China ‘Terrified’

• Carson introduces Chang as the show’s go-to China analyst and discusses recent Western anxiety about Chinese technological innovation in manufacturing (especially autos and robotics).
  • Chang (23:27): “They stole it from us. But nonetheless, China’s been making strides on its own…because they’ve poured an enormous amount of resources into the area.”
• China’s Demographic and Labor Crisis
  • Chang (24:29): “China manufactures more than half the world’s robots each and every year because their workforce has been shrinking since 2011…and they’re throwing people out of work.”
  • Impact: This trend undermines China’s supposed manufacturing advantage as automation will favor production closer to end consumers (e.g., “a robot in Kentucky” vs. a robot in China).

b. Drug & Tech Supply Chains “Returning Home”

• Carson notes Trump administration’s push to repatriate both pharmaceuticals and chip manufacturing.
  • Chang (26:20): “We’re making the world’s most sophisticated chips at a TSMC plant in Arizona. That’s a great milestone for the U.S.”
  • On drugs: “We don’t make the key starting materials…the APIs…most of them are made either in India or China exclusively. We’ve got a real problem there.”

c. Rare Earth Minerals & the Australian Deal

• Chang (27:37): “Trump and [Australian PM] Albanese signed that $8.7 billion deal for the co-production and co-mining of rare earths…cutting China out of its supply chain.”
• Carson notes importance of “dig, baby, dig” and shifting critical component production out of China.

d. Venezuela’s Drug Cartels and China’s Allies

• Carson and Chang discuss U.S. moves against Venezuela’s regime and its connections to China.
  • Chang (28:51): “That’s going to take one of China’s biggest proxies out of Latin America.”
  • Carson: “They’ve emptied their prisons into the U.S…What an evil way to do things…”

e. Soybean Wars

• Discussion turns to China’s halt in buying U.S. soybeans and its effect on American farmers.
  • Chang (33:03): “China this year has not bought a single soybean from the United States. That’s part of this tariff war…they’ve been violating their trade obligations.”
• Suggests tariff revenue should directly support U.S. farmers.

f. U.S. Industrial Policy and China’s Fragile Economy

• Carson brings up Trump’s push for price floors and a strategic mineral reserve strategy.
  • Chang (35:03): “People don’t like industrial policy, but what the Chinese have been doing is driving the prices of rare earths through the floor to make sure [American] businesses go out of business.”
• On China’s economic health:
  • Chang (35:59): “They’re probably about an 8½ [out of 10, with 10 = collapse]. Their economy is really in trouble…people are not committing money to all sorts of projects.”
• Carson & Chang praise Trump’s “3D chess” on trade—isolating China via tariffs and targeted deals.
  • Chang (37:21): “All these trade deals are isolating China…really good policy on our part.”

g. Closing Thoughts on U.S.–China Rivalry

• Carson (37:53): “Isn’t it nice to have Superman back, Gordon? Superman was gone and the world goes to hell…And Superman is back.”
• Chang (38:10): “Yes, certainly is.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Jay Jones’ Controversial Texts:
  Rob Carson (07:25): “If the Republican Party was sitting on it, why the heck didn’t they release it before early voting? Your argument is specious and idiotic.”

• On the Modern Democratic Party:
  Rob Carson (09:25): “Democrats are cool with it. They sold their souls. They just want that D in office.”

• On John Reed’s Ad:
  Rob Carson (10:45): “He wrote that ad. He didn't have a team of consultants come up with it. This is Mr. Smith right here.”

• On Trump-era Shut Down:
  Rob Carson (13:16): “You can kiss my butt. There you go. Just kiss right here. I'm taking it right? Yeah. I'm bending over right now.”

• On Weed in Everyday Life:
  Rob Carson (15:13): “Weed never smells good. I don't care if you're a major pothead…nobody needs a contact high.”

• On China’s Economic Struggles:
  Gordon G. Chang (35:59): “Their economy is really in trouble…people are not committing money to all sorts of projects. And that means the Chinese economy is going to sink further in the future.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Virginia Political Races – 01:08–11:00
• Trump and the Shutdown – 12:28–14:45
• Satirical Song – Shutdown – 14:03–14:45
• Weed Lawsuit & ‘Not Catching the Stupid’ – 15:13–20:11
• Gordon Chang Interview: China’s Tech Edge, Demographics, and Trade – 23:00–38:26
• China’s Economic Collapse / U.S. Strategic Moves – 33:03–38:15

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Tone, Style, and Final Thoughts

True to Rob Carson’s style, the episode is energetic, brash, and laced with sarcasm—balancing pointed political analysis with comedy and parody. Guests like Gordon Chang add substantive, logic-driven insights on U.S.–China relations, while Carson’s solo sections blend pop culture and politics with irreverence and directness. The overall mood is combative, confident, and distinctly conservative-populist.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

Hold it.

[Commercial Narrator]

Now.

[Guest Commentator]

You are about to hear the most.

[Rob Carson]

Interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson Show. We are terrestrial today. The the live stream is not happening on Newsmax social media because of some issues with Amazon or whatever the hell, I don't know, I don't know what it is, but it certainly, it certainly shows you the value of, of radio, of radio, oddly enough. So you can still, by the way, tune into the podcasts. They're still there. We're not streaming live. You don't see the video today, but you can go to all of your podcast platforms. Look up Rob Carson's show. Today's show, even though you're not seeing it, will be on the podcast because the podcast is only the audio. So the audio rolls on. So go to your usual podcast platforms and look up Rob Carson's show. There you go, there you go. Big race happening in Virginia. We've got gutter Winsome Sears running against Abigail Spamberger. That's what I call her because she's a no meat, just filler and bad for you. Anyway, she's running and it looks like it's the neck and neck race. You got Jason Miaras running for AG versus this guy who's just like out of control. J. Jones. He said he wanted to murder his opponent and his children. He's a psycho. And honestly, nobody. I text a lot of things with my personal friends, I would never say, I hope that person is murdered. And the children. Who says that? Who says that? Even with your. Who says that? And who are you texting that to? Because apparently he was texting some woman and she's like, dude, you're out of your frigging mind. And apparently, you know, everybody's all heard about this. Mike Johnson was talking about it and he was on with Jonathan Karl with a K. And Jonathan Karl said, hey, man, you know, the Republicans have sat on this for a couple years until he ran. And I said, you know, if this was the case, they would have released it months ago. And it's kind of like with Joe, with Donald Trump. Donald Trump, you know, everybody's saying, or at least the Epstein files. Well, if there was anything there, if there was anything there, then they would have released it. When Joe Biden was the president, you say. So it's all just kind of ridiculous. This is Donald Trump talking about Winsome Sears. By the way, John Reed is running for lieutenant governor. He's got a new ad. I'm gonna play it for you. He wrote it himself. You don't hear that very often. He wrote it himself. So we'll get to that here very shortly. Here's Donald Trump on Winsome Sears.

[Donald Trump]

I think the Republican candidate is very good and I think she should, should, she should win because the Democrat candidate's a disaster. So I haven't been too much involved in Virginia. I love the state. I did very well in the state. But I will tell you, I think the Republican candidate is excellent and I think the Democrat candidate is a disaster. I mean, I watched her in the debate. She couldn't answer the most basic question. And, you know, a big thing with that race and also the race in New Jersey is going to be energy. Both of the Democrats are going to drive the energy prices through the roof. Through, through the roof, your energy is going to double and triple. If the Republican gets elected, your energy is going to be coming down by 70, 80%. Thank you very much, everybody.

[Rob Carson]

Certainly, certainly, certainly. And that is the case with the, the Citarelli race in, in New Jersey. And by the way, he had a huge rally this weekend. Jack Cittarelli, I always, I always. Because you got to be careful with that first syllable. You know, it's like shiitake mushrooms. You got to be kind of careful because if you just stop at the first syllable, you're going to get yourself in trouble. You know, it's like vinegar. You could say vinegar, but if you take the VIN off the front of it, you're going to get booted off the air. So you got to be careful with these words you use. So, you know, I'm very careful with Mr. Citarelli's name. There you go. This is. Let's see here. We got. Oh, Tim, Tim Kane, the, the senator from Virginia. What an embarrassment. Here he is. He is refusing to. And here's the reason. The Democrat Party is refusing to and will refuse to take their endorsement from a candidate they think they're going to win if no matter what is what's wrong with them? Zoran Mannami posed with one of the masterminds, or at least someone who is not an indicted co conspirator of the 1993 World Center Trade bombings. And he buddied up to this guy in his campaigning with him and got money from him. And Democrats are like, oh, don't say anything. Let's just keep, keep going, keep going with Mondami. That's how sick, sick, sick the Democrat Party is. I mean, honestly, what is wrong with you that you would allow that man to, to be your candidate? And you're going, okay, I know he posed with the guy who, you know was unindicted. Koch's bureau of the 1993 World Center Trade. But bombings and all that. But we want Mondava to be elected. What is wrong with you when it comes to Jason Vigar? He's doing a great job as the A.G. you got this. J. Jones. The only thing that he has going for him is he has got a D in front of his name for Democrat. That's it. He is a sick man. What he said in his text would disqualify you from a background check in law enforcement. He should not be the AG for the state of Virginia. But here's Tim Cain, Jim Kaine. Well, Kaine is able to spin this. Senator, should Jay Jones drop out of this race? No, he shouldn't.

[Guest Commentator]

Kristen, those texts, private texts with a colleague, cannot be defended. They cannot be defended. But Jay Jones has apologized earnestly. The Republicans knew about these texts for years. They waited until the ballot was printed and they waited until hundreds of thousands.

[Rob Carson]

Early voting started a month ago. Why didn't the Republican Party release it then? If they had it. Give me a break. Early voting started. If they had it for two years, don't you think they would have released it before early voting? Early voting is gonna save his butt? Well, it's not gonna save his butt. Cause he's gonna lose. But they would have replaced it before early voting, you idiot. My God. Are you really? Honestly, early voting started a month ago. It's just. Why wouldn't. If the Republican Party was sitting on it, why in the heck didn't they release it before early voting? Your argument is specious and idiotic, which is, you know, you essentially. My God, it is you. Here is Peter Doocy talking to Glenn Youngkin, the governor of Virginia, about this.

[Guest Commentator]

And what did he want to do to Todd Gilbert? Two bullets to the head. Why? Because he didn't like his politics. What's worse, he wanted Jennifer Gilbert, a mother with two small children, ages two and five. He said that he hoped to see their children die in their arms. I am ashamed. I am embarrassed, and I'm sorry. I am sorry to Speaker Gilbert. I'm sorry to his family. I'm sorry to my family. So that's it? That's the apology? Is that enough? That the sad reality is he thinks it is. And now he's asking for Virginians to vote for him for the job of top cop, the people's protector. And yet he wanted to put two bullets in the head of our former speaker Republican, watch his children die in their mother's arms. Then he came back out and said, and a few cops need to die, too. And that is disqualifying beyond any possible claim for that job or any job in public office. He could not even get hired as an assistant attorney general because he couldn't pass the background check. And yet he's running.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. And yet he's running. But, you know, Democrats are cool with it. They just want that D in office. They just want that D in office. They don't give a rats behind. They sold their souls. This is John Reed's ad. John Reed running through Lieutenant governor is a hell of a nice guy. We've had him on the show every week, and here is he. Listen to the beginning of this. You never hear this. And one of the reasons why is he's a broadcaster. He is a broadcaster in good standing. Listen to his intro. He says he wrote this ad.

[Guest Commentator]

I'm John Reed, candidate for lieutenant governor, and I wrote this ad. Every generation faces a choice. Strength or surrender, Courage or cowardice.

[Rob Carson]

One path brings a stronger Virginia.

[Guest Commentator]

Parents leading the charge, not bureaucrats. Businesses building and growing, not burning. Law and order and opportunity.

[Rob Carson]

The other choice, chaos, higher taxes, more.

[Guest Commentator]

Crime and radical politics tearing us apart. Ghazala Hashmi, the inexperienced poetry professor of division. John Reed, the fighter for Virginia, shunned.

[Rob Carson]

By the rich and elite.

[Guest Commentator]

John Reed is standing up for the working people of Virginia. I'm John Reed, candidate for Lieutenant Governor. I'll be reasonable, respected, responsible, respectful and most importantly, fair. And I'm asking for your vote on November 4th.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. He wrote that ad. He didn't have a team of consultants come up with it. This is Mr. Smith right here. This is Mr. Smith right Here. And he is, he is worthless Marxist opponent getting hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars from out of state. John Reed wrote his own ad. He's Mr. Smith. Go to John reidforvirginia.com and help him out. I mean this, I've gotten to know John the last month and a candidate, you know, he is and he is, he is out, he is working his butt off every weekend not relying on millions of dollars from Soros type organizations which his opponent is. John reed has a 350 grand versus millions and millions of millions for his radical leftist opponent. And he even wrote his own ad. He sent it to me yesterday, says, hey, can you help me out here? I need this to be seen. We don't have the money to buy the ads on television. That's the ad. So John Reed for Virginia. I don't care if you live in Virginia. He needs to be in office. Virginia is on the front lines and we need to keep it Republican. That's it. We need the governor, the Lieutenant Governor, John Reed and the ag Jason Mieros. So Sears Reed. Mieros. That's it. So John reedforvirginia.com John reedforvirginia dot com, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Guest Commentator]

That's exactly right. Turns out shutdowns are different the second time around when it comes to Donald Trump. Take a look here. You know, we speak about Donald Trump shutdowns net approval rate and we're talking 20 days into it, in 2018, 2019, Donald Trump's net approval rating was already falling. The shutdown was eating and it was popular sport. It was down three points already at this particular point and with four considerably more. It was very much on the decline. You come over to this side of the screen, this shutdown hasn't even in the Donald Trump support at all. His net approval rating is actually up a point in terms of his popular support. So the bottom line is this. The first shutdown during Trump's first term, 2018, 2019, was hurting Donald Trump. This one is not hurting him at all. There's no real reason Donald Trump might say at least when it comes to popular support, I want to get out of the shutdown.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And you know why? Because the Democrats are so incredibly full of crap. And they spent the first four years trying to destroy Donald Trump, then four years off trying to destroy Donald Trump, trying to get him thrown in jail for 700 years, taking his fortune and then trying to murder him. And now he's doing unbelievable good for the country. Good. That is so good that you can't even list all the stuff he's done, for God's sake. Seven peace deals almost now Eight, working on Ukraine and working on and on Russia. And all the Democrats could do is whine and B word because they weren't able to put him in jail, they weren't able to keep him off the ballot, and they weren't able to murder him. And you know what? You can kiss my butt. There you go. Just kiss right here. I'm taking it right? Yeah. I'm bending over right now.

[Donald Trump]

The government shut down on Tuesday night.

[Rob Carson]

Not a nice visual, but you get it.

[Donald Trump]

The Democrats must know they're going to lose this fight.

[Rob Carson]

Jim. Got it.

[Donald Trump]

Schumer and Hakeem, they cooked up this scheme. Chucky, I am coming after you.

[Rob Carson]

You. Yeah. You are. Big time.

[Donald Trump]

No matter what the stakes may be, I'll come out on top. The Democrats have blown it once again. Leave town for a while while I sit back and smile. No matter what they do, I intend to win. Yeah, you're going to shut down. Shut down.

[Guest Commentator]

Down.

[Donald Trump]

Blame the shutdown on the Democrats. Schumer cannot be trusted.

[Rob Carson]

He's combusting.

[Donald Trump]

Schumer shut down. Fighting for illegals to get free health care. Haem cannot be trusted. Schumer shut down. The whole thing's gonna blow up in their face. Yeah, hot. He mentioned.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Go to Jim Gossett actually. Patreon.com Jim Gossett comedy Patreon.com Jim Gossett Comedy if you'd like to help Jim Gossett out, I may be doing a Patreon page, too. Might be doing that, too. With extras, like extra, extra content stuff. We will see. We will see. Where do you go now that you don't smell weed? You know, it's irritating. I walked by the cigar shop, one of the cigar shops in Old Town Alexandria, Virginia, where I live now, and a little whiff of a cigar. It's kind of nice. Weed never smells good. I don't care if you're a major pothead, you might get me, dude. I want some of that here past the Dutch on the left hand side, dude. But no, it doesn't smell good. And nobody needs a contact high. Remember I was in New York a while back, and I'm at this hotel and this guy's smoking a frigging joint the size of a roll of lifesavers. I mean, who needs that much weed? And it was wafting into the hotel and this big bouncer guy, you know, the doorman walked over and said, you got to take that down the street. And you smell it everywhere. In my apartment at seven in the morning, there's somebody in the parking lot smoking a joint. I'm like, you're going to work getting high? Are you out of your mind? A D.C. woman sued a neighbor to stop smoking weed in his home after complaining of a feces order. That's stinkweed. They call it stinkweed. An elderly woman just scored a landmark win against her neighbor that forces him to stop smoking weed in his home. Joseph Whatever Shepherd, 76, said the feces or skunk smell emanating from the next door neighbor made her dread coming home. She said she even once vomited when her neighbor, who lives on the ground level in an adjoining home, lit up. So she sued. I wasn't interested in money. I'm just interested in getting some fresh air into my home. After five years of representing herself, Apollo Tada, whatever the hell, shepherd finally won her case in D.C. court of Appeals. The higher court ended up siding with her, saying that use of enjoyment by of her property was more important than this guy's use and enjoyment of his pot. Cackett told tried arguing that he only smoked once a day and never for longer than five minutes to cope with his many health conditions, including skin cancer, chronic hepatitis, arthritis, and sciatica. I'm not Snoop Dogg, he said. The panel said it was doubtful that smack Cackett just smoked for a couple minutes each day. So he can't just blaze up within 25ft of her home. Yeah, how about just do an edible? Just do a gummy, for God's sake. Just a little bit. Ridiculous. Hey, hey, hey. We haven't done this in a while. You know, we got this thing on the show called not catching the stupid. I came up with it during COVID because somebody said if you wear a paper mask, you could stop the deadliest virus ever. And I said, man, if you believe that, you've caught the st. Stupid. So that's why I came up with this just plain stupid, stupid, stupid. Does Mr. Blue, who got stupid? This is a content warning. Content warning. I got an Email from a grandmother the other day. I'm not gonna listen to your show anymore because I can't listen to it with my grandchildren listening. And I said, well, I appreciate your content, your comments, but, you know, I'm not doing a show for your grandchildren. And maybe oughta. You know, maybe you ought to let your kids listen to something else because I said a word.

[Guest Commentator]

I don't know.

[Rob Carson]

I might have said the a word or something. Oh, my God. Content warning. Kim Kardashian's skims just dropped thongs. Now, this is underwear. I don't know why the hell she's doing it. She's known for wearing bras that have the oriolas that are. Let's say it's cold. Now she's got micro string thongs with faux pubic hair. Wasn't there a Rolling Stones album with that? Remember that? And you're like, ew. And then I think. I think the black crows had one with. With that sticking out there. Who wants this? So anyway, it's a micro thong. And inspired by a 1970s campaign that dating show dubbed does the carpet match the grapes? I think that drapes. I believe that was the Newlywed Game or the Dating Game. You know, like you're. If you're blonde, a real blonde, versus, you know, other parts of your body. Available in 12 faux hair and thong colorations with straight and curly textures. My God in heaven, Is there any other way? Currently sold out on the skims website. I don't know why it is. Sparked a buzz. $32 underwear with fake hair down there. So it's selling. Is this like getting a hairpiece? I mean, but there you go. It's a gag gift.

[Donald Trump]

Stupid is stupid.

[Rob Carson]

Dice, I'm gagging. I'm gagging. All right, so coming up, Gordon Chang's gonna join us. Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified. We'll explain. Also, a soybean war between China and the United States of America. That's on the way. And this is the Rob Carson show. Hey, guys, it's Carson. Forget fresh olive oil. I eat olive oil every day. I got rid of seed oils years ago. Life is too short to not have wonderful fresh olive oil. And I mean fresh olive oil packs the most flavor and healthy ingredients when it's fresh from the farm. And that's the problem with supermarket olive oils. They're not fresh. They could sit on the shelf for months, growing stale. That's why I get my olive oil from small, award winning farms thanks to a fellow named T.J. robinson, also known as the olive oil hunter. When I tasted TJ Farms fresh olive oils, I fell in love with their vibrant, grassy flavors. They were incredibly delicious on salad, veggies, pasta, meat, fish, you name it. And as an introduction to his fresh pressed Olive Oil Club, TJ is willing to send you a full size $39 bottle up one of the world's finest artisanal olive oils fresh from the new harvest for just $1 to help him cover shipping. There's no commitment to buy anything now or later. Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 and taste the difference freshness makes. Go to getfreshrobcarson.com that's getfreshrobcarson.com for a free bottle and pay just one do get fresh. Robcarson.com It's a Rob Carson show on a Monday. The stream is down. The stream is down. It's like Joe Biden in the bathroom at 3am Our stream is down. It's not working today. But terrestrial radio rules across the country. Thank you very much. On great radio stations like, let's see, WGMD and Rehoboth, WCBM in Baltimore, ksco, Santa Cruz, California, the Benny media stations across New Hampshire, all of those radio. So you have to say it just like that, New Hampshire. But we are, you know, and this is the thing, this is one of the great things about radio. When your stream is down, radio is there to, to rescue you. Gordon Chang, a frequent guest on the radio program at Gordon G. Chang. I have been banking material for Gordon Chang's next appearance for a couple of weeks now because it's been so long. He's also written the book the Coming Collapse of China. He also wrote To Plan Red China's Project to Destroy America. He joins us on the Newsmax hotline. How are you doing today, sir?

[Gordon G. Chang]

I'm fine, Rob, and thank you so much.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely. I sent you this article from Matt Oliver. Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified after a string of factories. Jim Farley has left astonished by the technical innovations being packed into Chinese cars, from self driving software to facial recognition, which begs the question, Gordon Chang, who did they steal it from?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Well, they stole it from us. But nonetheless, China's been making strides on its own. You know, once they've stolen the technology because they've poured an enormous amount of resources into the area. So they've been doing okay. But you know, Americans I think are sort of, they view China as exaggerated and China is not that frightening when you start to look and peer under.

[Rob Carson]

The hood okay, under the hood. I gotcha. Well, they also have added a lot of robots to the, to the workforce, which I find fascinating. And if I had a lot of money to throw around, I would invest in Elon Musk's robot manufacturing because I think that's where it's going. It's going to be amazing. It's going to take care of you and I when we need, you know, in our, in our, in our aged years, very, very likely could have a robot taking care of us and doing household tax tasks and whatnot. But China's doing that too, Gordon.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Well, certainly. And China, more than half the world's robots each and every year. The reason they do that is because their workforce has been shrinking since 2011 and they're facing the biggest demographic collapse in history. And the problem for China is that they've got an unemployment problem. So they're adding robots and they're throwing people out of work. And that's a social stability issue. But it's even worse than that because they're introducing robots into manufacturing. We're going to do it as well. Automation means that countries that companies that manufacture close to the point of contact are going to have the competitive advantage because labor is going to take, being taken out of the equation and that means we've got the biggest market. So clearly the United States is going to benefit from this overall. And China is going to be hurt because we're not going to be buying Chinese stuff. We're going to be buying stuff that made by a robot in Kentucky rather than stuff made by a robot on the other side of the Pacific.

[Rob Carson]

That is true. And also last week some very big announcements with regard to drug prices and manufacturing drugs. Big pharma. He was talking to Donald Trump, was talking to Maria Bartiromo about how drug manufacturers are coming back to the United States. This is a very big deal. Obviously, you know, supply. When you're dealing with China, you can't trust them. You certainly can't trust the supply chain. When you are dealing with life saving or life changing drugs, you got a problem. But, but this sounds like they're already starting to see the impact. They're already starting to. Well, for instance, also chips. Chips. Did you realize just, just last week the first high tech AI chips were manufactured in America and we're only nine months in. So this is really going to hit China big time.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yeah, well, you know, on the chips we got to be, we got to thank both Presidents Biden and Trump.

[Rob Carson]

Really.

[Gordon G. Chang]

The CHIPS act was in the Biden administration.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Gordon G. Chang]

I was wondering about that bipartisan success. We're making the world's most sophisticated chips at a TSMC plant in Arizona. And that's fantastic. That's a great milestone for the United States. And Rob, you're absolutely right. We're going to be making our own pharmaceuticals in the United States, which we do. We don't make the key starting materials. We don't make the APIs, the active pharmaceutical ingredients in the United States.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Gordon G. Chang]

So we're not making the pharmaceuticals here. We absolutely need to do that because with the KSI, the key starting materials, most of them are made either in India or China exclusively.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[Gordon G. Chang]

We've got a real problem there.

[Rob Carson]

Do you suppose the rare earth minerals are next? Because we're talking about. Donald Trump is on unleashing our ability to dig, baby, dig. Do you suppose a lot of that's going to come back here? And that's, that's again, that's really going to hit China, particularly when it comes to battery components and whatnot.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah.

[Gordon G. Chang]

And not only that, but just a few hours ago you had the Australian Prime Minister Albanese in the White House.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Gordon G. Chang]

And Trump and Albanese signed that $8.7 billion deal for the co production and the co mining of rare earths. Wow.

[Rob Carson]

Really?

[Gordon G. Chang]

What you've got there is the United States cutting China out of its rare earth supply chain. So that's, that's good news too. And also we're shoring up our relations with Australia, which we need to do.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, absolutely. I wish they'd have a better leader there. I had a, I had one of my Aussie listeners call and said, hey, Rob, if you get a chance to, you know, tell Donald Trump to, you know, kick that guy in the pants a little bit because he's a little left of center. Let me ask you about the drug boats. I mean, the Venezuelan drug boats are being taken out and becoming a much more rare occurrence. They got to be kind of, you know, losing it in their shorts. You combine that with Donald Trump flying B52s and fighter jets and now sending like some operatives, possibly CIA and who knows, Special Forces as well. Also doing amphibious drills in California. Obviously China does a lot of, a lot of trade with Venezuela and it looks like Maduro's regime could collapse. What's that going to do to China?

[Gordon G. Chang]

That's going to take one of China's biggest proxies out of Latin America.

[Rob Carson]

Love it.

[Gordon G. Chang]

So, you know, that's, that's important. Maduro needs to go whether he's got a relationship with China. Or not, which he certainly does because he runs the cartel of the suns. And that is one of the biggest drug sellers in the world. So, you know, we need to take Maduro out because he's been behind these drugs, bus drug sales. And I'm very glad that we're taking out those drug boats in international water.

[Rob Carson]

This isn't a. This isn't a. This isn't a regime change particularly. It is. It is responding to a war they've been waging against the United States that has cost hundreds of thousands of lives. They have been waging a war against the United States with drugs that have killed hundreds of thousands. They have also emptied their prisons. I mean, we never heard of Trend Aragua before Maduro emptied his prisons into the United States. Basically said, if you committed murder, whatever, we will just send you. What an evil way to do things, man. And he's going down. And I pretty. It'll be. It'll be, I think, possibly before the end of the year. I can't see him staying in office much longer. I'm sure he's shopping, leaving. I'm sure he probably maybe. Do you suppose he's talking to Xi Jinping about coming to China?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yeah, that's. That's a real possibility.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Gordon G. Chang]

It's not only what you mentioned, it's also. You had Maduro behind those NGOs that were supporting the caravans. That was a venom project to erode American sovereignty by eroding our border. So it was not just sending criminals here, it was trying to take down the United States. So we need to deal with Maduro in the same way that he's been dealing with us.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely, 100%. I suggested sending special forces and painting targets. Gordon, changing you. Hang on for the next break.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Of course, I would love to, because.

[Rob Carson]

I have much more than I want to ask you that I have been banking to have you on. So let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey, guys, it's Carson. Not proud member of the 4:00am Club. You know what that is? Well, that's the time that I usually wake up every night and can't get back to sleep. Then I found Beams Dream Powder. Now, Beams Dream Powder is made with a powerful blend of all natural ingredients, including reishi, magnesium, L theanine, apigenin, and melatonin. It's designed to help you fall asleep, stay asleep, and wake up feeling amazing. And unlike other sleep aids, there's no next day grogginess, just great restful sleep. Plus, dream tastes incredible. And it's become a part of my nightly routine. Simple, easy, effective, dream is made right here in America supporting jobs, quality and the principles we stand for in America. Thank you very much. Beam is going to give my listeners the ultimate patriot Discount. Up to 40%. Try their best selling Dream Powder. Get up to 40% off for a limited time. So with my discount code Newsmax, you can get their best selling dream powder for just $39. Go to shopbeam.com newsmax that's shopbeam.com newsmax again, use the code newsmax at checkout. That's beam.com newsmax and code word newsmax for up to 40% off it is Rob Carson. Joe. Joining us on the Newsmax online, Gordon Chang. And again, I have been banking all sorts of stories. I'm, I'm one of the biggest Gordon Chang fanboys in the country. Thank you very much. Because he has so many amazing insights and knowledge and experience with regard to China, particularly Gordon Chang. Let me ask you this. Trump calls China soybean cuts economically hostile. Now, I'm a, I'm a Midwest boy and most recently spent some time in Delaware where the, the chief crops are rotation of soybeans and corn, generally used for cattle food. However, you can do much more with soybeans. But China sounds like they are having a soybean war with us because I mean, honestly, I've heard from farmers, soybeans, the prices dropped out of them and you can't make any money.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yeah, China this year has not bought a single soybean from the United States. And that's part of this tariff war, as they call it. But clearly they've been violating their trade obligations by doing this. You know, there are a couple of things going on here, but one of them is that at this moment there are only so much acreage in the world that is devoted to soybeans. And if Argentina and Brazil are selling more soybeans to the US To China, then we should be selling to Argentina's and Brazil's traditional customers. Now, next year will be a problem because Brazil can put more acreage under soybean production and therefore they could shut out the US but at least this year we should be doing that. The other thing is that Trump should be just giving tariff revenue to the farmers. He's talking about doing it. He did it in his first term, he should be doing it now.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. You know, it is a, for lack of a better expression, actually, it's a perfect expression. A tough road to hoe when it comes to being a Farmer, particularly when it involves cash crops. Well, there. And there's very little cash, by the way, soybeans and corn are, you know, that's generally why you have to raise livestock as well, because you cannot just be a soybean or corn farmer anymore. You can't do it anymore. I know these things because I grew up in Iowa there. Gordon, I wanted to mention this also. And this is back onto the rare earth thing. This is an article I saved. Trump administration will set price floors across a range of industries to combat China. Trump administration will set them to combat market manipulation. According to Scott Bessett, China driven foreign competitors in the rare earth industry out of business over the past decades by using its global dominance in refining and processing to slash prices. The US Also needs to set up a strategic mineral reserve. I guess that's what this meeting with Australia, Australia's president, is all about. And then also with, you know, opening up American land for, for mining.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yes, we need to put those price for floors. People don't like industrial policy, but what the Chinese have been doing is driving the prices of rare earths through the floor to try to make sure that Americans businesses go out of business, which they've been very successful at doing. The reason why we don't mine or produce rare earths in the US So we need to have those prices floor is there. That's really good policy on the part of the Trump administration, and I know the Wall Street Journal will go berserk over it, but nonetheless, this is what we need to do.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you know what? They, they've, they've declared a war on us. It's been going on for a very long time. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being economic and political collapse in China happening, where would you say China is right now? Is the situation getting more dire for them or better?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Well, it's certainly getting worse for them. And they're probably about an eight and a half right now. Their economy is really in trouble. I mean, they just released some numbers a few hours ago. They said that their economy grew 4.8% in the third quarter of this year. That's pretty unlikely. But the numbers that really were disastrous were fixed asset investment declined 0.5% in the first nine months of the year. And that means people are very, very pessimistic because they're not committing money to all sorts of projects. And that means the Chinese economy is going to sink further in the future.

[Rob Carson]

You look at what Trump is doing with tariffs and like, for instance, using tariffs, he got the peace deal between India and Pakistan because basically said, how are you going to pay for your war if we're not buying your products or, you know, we make yours cost prohibitive, how are you going to pay for the war? And that really, really helped, didn't it? It really, really helped. And I'll tell you, there's so many ways he's going at this. It's 3D chess, bro. You know this as well as I do with China. It's, it's, it's the rare earth, it's the, it's the tariffs, it's the making your drugs here. It's offshoring manufacturing back to America. I mean, look at what he's doing here. It's not going to get better for China.

[Gordon G. Chang]

No, it's not going to get better for China at all. And all of these trade deals that President Trump has been putting together, they are isolating China. So, for instance, the UK deal that was announced in May doesn't give tariff relief to UK products that are made with Chinese components. So what that does is it makes sure that not only are we buying less from China, but that what we buy from third countries has fewer Chinese components in it. This is really good trade policy on our part.

[Rob Carson]

Isn't nice, Isn't it nice to have Superman back, Gordon? Superman was gone and the world goes to hell when Superman is gone and Superman is back. And this time he's had four years to be off and get persecuted and prosecuted and left and right and trying to kill him. And Donald Trump is getting it right, isn't he?

[Gordon G. Chang]

Yes, certainly is.

[Rob Carson]

All right.

[Gordon G. Chang]

It just ain't working. So that's good.

[Rob Carson]

Nope. Gordon, always a blessing to have you on. My friend Gordon G. Chang on Twitter. Thank you so much. We'll have you on again soon. Okay, brother.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Oh, well, thank you so much, Rob. I really appreciate it.

[Rob Carson]

All right. Take care of yourself. Gordon Chang just kicks butt. I, I've now it's so odd to say that. I've known him now for about five years and I've met him a couple of times. It's kind of cool. It's. I know, I know, I know. Guy used to sell cars five years ago. Hanging out with Gordon Chang. It's kind of cool. Let's take a break and come back on the way. Jimmy Kimmel continues his self immolation this time. I mean, honestly disgusting what he did. That's coming up. Don't go anywhere. This is the Rob Carson Show. Drag queen Trixie Mattel appeared on Jimmy Kimmel's Drag Queen story time. I'll explain that in a moment. I want to mention Birch Gold. You're. You're. The October's going by. Dear God in heaven. It's only. It's the 20th already. My birthday's Wednesday, by the way. But you need to. If you're going to take advantage of software merch, go get it done. Buy gold. Get free silver. For every $5,000 you invest in Birch Gold in the month of this month, before Veterans Day, they will send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the. Commemorates the Gasden and American flags. It's glorious. I would show you it on the stream, but it's. The stream's not working, you see. So what you need to do is just text my name, Rob to 989-898. Here, you can hear it. Here it is. That's the coin right there. You can hear it. There you go. Look at. I just flipped it. A plus rating from the bbb. Tens of thousands of happy customers. And by the way, price of silver is going through the ceiling to all time highs. It was $54 last week, up from $48 the week before. Gold over $4,100 an ounce. I would get some gold before. You can't afford to get some gold. While you got it, you can get it and you're going to make some money, hopefully. Because the trajectory is ridiculously amazing. Through the ceiling. Up 42% this year. So text my name, Rob to 989898. You're getting a free gold info kit and you could be eligible for this silver. Hi ho, silver away. Text Rob to 989-898 for Birch Cold. So Jimmy Kimmel is a not funny human being. He had a bunch of children on to make a political statement without being funny and shred one of Donald Trump's kid's books.

[Guest Commentator]

I. Trixie Mattel. Do I scare any of you?

[Rob Carson]

No.

[Commercial Narrator]

No.

[Guest Commentator]

Really.

[Rob Carson]

You just look amazing.

[Gordon G. Chang]

Why would that be scary?

[Guest Commentator]

That is so affirming. Thank you so much. You guys look amazing too.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Guest Commentator]

Yeah, well, I have a whole pile of books here. What if we chose one together?

[Rob Carson]

Because this is not funny. It's propaganda. I want you to listen to this. It's disgusting.

[Guest Commentator]

Says after all a democracy. As of this morning, it's still a democracy. I'm not sure. First up we have who cares about elderly people. Yeah, this is collectible spoons of the Third Reich.

[Gordon G. Chang]

No, not at all.

[Guest Commentator]

Okay, would you guys like to read a book by President Trump? Hold up, what about President Trump's? Least favorite son.

[Rob Carson]

Wait, how many sons does he have? Wow. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Went on to take a memoir by Eric Trump and put it in a wood chipper with children. It's not. Not the children of the woodchipper. Not funny. He's not going to have a job much longer. He's not going to get renewed. God bless you. God bless America. Hopefully the stream will be back. God bless Donald Trump, what he's doing for the country. And until tomorrow, do not catch the stupid I'll see you then. Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[Commercial Narrator]

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[Rob Carson]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T Mobile commercial like you.

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[Rob Carson]

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[Rob Carson]

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