Glenn Beck Honors Charlie Kirk With Rush Limbaugh’s Golden Mic

Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Glenn Beck Honors Charlie Kirk With Rush Limbaugh’s Golden Mic
Date: September 18, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Key Guests: Hillary Fordwich, Cliff Maloney
Special Segment: Clip from Glenn Beck

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show reflects on significant current events in American and British politics, including Donald Trump’s impactful state visit to the UK, debates on immigration and free speech, and the assassination of influential conservative leader Charlie Kirk. The show features heartfelt tributes to Charlie, analysis of his legacy, and emotional moments from guests and friends. A special highlight is Glenn Beck’s honoring of Kirk with Rush Limbaugh’s golden microphone—symbolizing the passing of a conservative torch.

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Major Discussion Themes and Segments

1. Trump’s State Visit to Great Britain

[00:46–08:29]
Speakers: Rob Carson & Hillary Fordwich

• Trump’s Unconventional Diplomacy:
  Rob and Hillary react to the unique moment of “YMCA” playing at Trump’s state visit and the genuine, less-stuffy atmosphere between Trump, King Charles, and Queen Camilla.

  • “It was just, it was so, it was not so stuffy. It was, it was like genuine fellowship. It was, it was really remarkable to watch.” – Rob Carson (02:18)

• Impact on UK–US Relations:
  Hillary notes the visible presence of MAGA hats in the UK and attributes positive changes in US–UK relations to Trump’s new tone and presence.

  • “He’s really hit the ground running and I would say that he’s exceeded expectations on the global stage.” – Hillary Fordwich (01:17)

• British View of the Royal Family:
  Hillary explains the significance of the monarchy for Brits and why its symbolism is unifying compared to the polarization around US presidents.

  • “It’s not just a person. It represented so much more.” – Hillary Fordwich (07:34)

• First Lady Praise:
  Rob likens the current First Lady’s grace in the UK to Jackie O.

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2. Immigration and Free Speech in the UK

[08:29–11:31]
Speakers: Rob Carson & Hillary Fordwich

• Trump’s Confrontation with Keir Starmer:
  Trump publicly challenges the British PM on illegal immigration, calling for strong action without mincing words.

  • “Your situation is very similar. You have people coming in and I told the Prime Minister I would stop it... It destroys countries from within.” – Donald Trump (08:42)

• British Public’s Response:
  Hillary underscores British frustration with illegal immigration and suggests Trump’s bluntness resonates.

  • “He’s going to get a lot more admiration from the British public because that’s such a huge issue.” – Hillary Fordwich (09:13)

• Free Speech Contradictions:
  Discussion exposes the tension between official claims about “protecting free speech” and actual implications, including the case of Lucy Connolly’s arrest.

  • “She posted a post saying... get rid of them... She was arrested and jailed. For months.” – Hillary Fordwich (10:31)

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3. Congressional Hearing Drama & FBI Oversight

[12:37–17:46]
Speaker: Rob Carson

• Grilling Democratic Lawmakers:
  Rob raucously skewers Eric Swalwell and other Democrats, referencing committee hearings, their lack of accountability, and voter disillusionment.

  • “You had sex with a Chinese spy for years. No telling what sort of state, state secrets you gave up. You’re a very small little man. A very small little man.” – Rob Carson (13:09)

• Law Enforcement Accomplishments:
  Rob highlights FBI successes in arrests and child victim recovery, contrasting this with what he claims is indifference under Biden regarding child trafficking and fentanyl.

• Right-wing Critique of FBI 'Weaponization':
  Clips of Jim Jordan and Josh Hawley confronting FBI Director Cash Patel about the agency’s past misconduct (school board parents, Catholics, censorship).

  • “Is the FBI still spying on President Trump? I don’t believe so.” – FBI Director (16:19)

• Democratic Outrage & Counteraccusations:
  References to Hank Johnson making “absurd” accusations about “shielding pedophiles.”

  • “Why are you protecting such a pedophiles?” – Hank Johnson (16:52)

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4. The Assassination and Legacy of Charlie Kirk

[20:47–36:58]
Speakers: Rob Carson, Cliff Maloney, Glenn Beck (clip)

4.1. Emotional Reflections After Charlie Kirk’s Death

[20:47–22:57]

• Rob shares audio of Cliff Maloney’s emotional tribute on Pennsylvania election night and describes a new sense of spiritual and civic awakening following Charlie’s assassination.
• “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence because you start to think the other side is so evil and they lose their humanity. Knock on that extra door, go that extra mile.” – Cliff Maloney via video clip (21:36)
• Rob admits to waves of grief:
  • “I didn’t even know Charlie Kirk... I’ve never known someone, a political and religious figure who I’ve respected so much.” (22:22)

4.2. Cliff Maloney on Charlie Kirk’s Impact

[22:57–29:13]

• Cliff details Charlie’s strategic vision, especially for grassroots organizing during Pennsylvania’s pivotal ballot-chase program.
  • “If it was not for Charlie Kirk, if it was not for his vision, we would have never run the program.” – Cliff Maloney (23:45)
• Both note a broad, faith-driven reaction to the assassination and growing backlash against online vilification of Kirk.
  • “This incident is forcing so many people to reevaluate their faith and to think about the purpose of living, you know, the purpose of those that are in politics.” – Cliff Maloney (25:35)
• The hate-filled responses from the left, even among everyday professionals, are called out as revelatory and galvanizing.
  • “These are schoolteachers, these are paramedics, these are normal people... not the fringe of society.” – Cliff Maloney (26:24)
• Rob:
  • “There’s a reason why Charlie should have never died. But look what it is shown. Look at the rot and the cancer that is exposed. And now we can tackle it.” (28:05)

4.3. Glenn Beck’s Golden Microphone Tribute

[29:56–31:18]
Speaker: Glenn Beck (via recorded segment)

• Beck sits in front of Charlie’s microphone with Rush Limbaugh’s golden mic, symbolically passing on the torch.
  • “It is Rush’s golden microphone. I think it's appropriate that it sits in front of Charlie’s microphone.” – Glenn Beck (30:10)
  • “Charlie was a broadcaster and a narrow caster. Charlie was a pastor and a priest... Charlie was a political organizer... He surpassed Rush Limbaugh, oh yes, by miles.” – Glenn Beck (30:34, 31:00)

4.4. Further Praise for Kirk’s Unmatched Influence

[31:18–36:58]

• Rob and Cliff detail the vast, multi-faceted impact Kirk had on policy, youth engagement, faith, and the conservative movement.
  • “Charlie Kirk will go down in American history as one of the most influential people that has really ever come together in that cross-section of not just ideas, but action.” – Cliff Maloney (32:41)
  • “Anything that Charlie touched turned to gold… Charlie cracked the code on all of them.” – Cliff Maloney (32:14)
• Both discuss the growth of TPUSA under Kirk and its continued expansion, with Erica named as the new CEO and an influx of new chapter requests.
• Personal stories:
  • Rob shares he is returning to church for the first time since his mother died, inspired by Kirk’s example.
    • “I haven’t been to church since my mother died four years ago, but I’m going Sunday because of Charlie.” – Rob Carson (35:18)
  • Cliff encourages others to reflect and act with moral clarity in the face of tragedy.
    • “If you have ever looked for a clear picture of good versus evil, you saw it last week.” – Cliff Maloney (36:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trump’s Diplomacy:
  “He was so again, diplomatic, eloquent, articulate… I can’t imagine anybody what they could say… to not be proud of how he presented.” – Hillary Fordwich (02:47)

• On British Free Speech:
  “She was arrested and jailed… And there was the comedian who was arrested by five armed soldiers. Arrested for one of his posts. Absolutely not [free speech].” – Hillary Fordwich (10:59)

• On the Reaction to Charlie Kirk’s Death:
  “It was always, you know, this is an ego trip, or... just another grifter. And they couldn’t be further from the truth. Charlie cared about one thing. Winning for America.” – Cliff Maloney (33:49)

• Glenn Beck’s Tribute:
  “Charlie was a political organizer. He was a political think tank himself. He was a compassionate friend. He surpassed Rush Limbaugh, oh yes, by miles.” – Glenn Beck (31:00)

• On Good vs Evil:
  “Evil once again exposed its flank so we can kick its ass.” – Rob Carson (36:29)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Trump’s State Visit & Royal Family Reflections: 00:46–08:29
• Immigration Debate/Free Speech UK: 08:29–11:31
• Congressional Hearings & FBI: 12:37–17:46
• Cliff Maloney’s Tribute to Charlie Kirk (inc. audio): 20:47–22:57
• Charlie Kirk’s Legacy & Faith Reawakening: 22:57–29:13
• Glenn Beck Honors Kirk with Rush’s Golden Mic: 29:56–31:18
• Kirk’s Unique Influence & Organizational Success: 31:18–36:58

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Tone and Style

The episode balances Rob Carson’s signature mix of humor, bluntness, and reverence. The conversation shifts from satirical political critique to deeply personal and emotional tributes, especially when discussing Charlie Kirk’s legacy and the heartfelt reactions of those affected by his passing. The tone grows notably somber and inspirational during the tribute segments from Cliff Maloney and Glenn Beck.

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Summary Takeaways

• Political Commentary Palpably Personal:
  The episode moves fluidly between robust political satire and serious commentary—especially on the moral and spiritual voids left in moments of national (and international) crisis.

• Charlie Kirk’s Death Galvanizes a Movement:
  The assassination of Charlie Kirk is painted as an inflection point, catalyzing both spiritual awakening and a conservative resurgence. His methods and personal outreach are repeatedly praised as transformative.

• Golden Microphone = Passing the Torch:
  Glenn Beck’s act of honoring Charlie with Rush Limbaugh’s microphone is presented as a generational transition for conservative leadership, emphasizing Kirk’s far-reaching impact.

• Faith, Freedom, and American Identity:
  The show culminates in reflections on the necessity for moral clarity and communal renewal, with the hosts and guests urging listeners to take constructive, united action for the nation’s future.

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Transcript

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[Hillary Fordwich]

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[Rob Carson]

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This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show. Our number three. And I gotta play this because it's not very often you hear this during a state visit to Great Britain. That is pretty cool. You got, you got Donald Trump sitting there next to King Charles and the band is playing YMCA Hillary Ford, which. Did you ever think you would see such a day?

[Hillary Fordwich]

No, actually, it's completely different than anything I think that's ever been seen before. And I think what's really important is it shows US spirit that Donald Trump has really inspired. And you saw in Windsor, there were so many mega hats. Make England great again. And also, I don't know how you want it to make Britain great again, but they'll make Britain great again. Make England great again. And I think that was just a testimony to the influence that he's had globally. And certainly after his last presidency, it wasn't like this at all. He's really hit the ground running and I would say that he's exceeded expectations on the global stage. And the support over there is just proof of that.

[Rob Carson]

I got to tell you, I was watching and listening to the, the state dinner when President Trump offered a toast to King Charles. It's so amazing to say King Charles and Queen Camilla, but also King Charles toasts. And they were so real. And, and the endearing and remarkable Donald Trump said it was so funny. He said, he said this is the second, the first time that a, you know, the President of the United States has been invited twice. He goes, may not be the last. I hope it's the last. And it was just a joke and everyone just, it was just, it was so, it was not so stuffy. It was, it was like genuine fellowship. It was, it was really remarkable to watch. It was really enjoyable to watch.

[Hillary Fordwich]

Yes, I think you're totally right. And in addition, I think that actually I'm hoping that given how articulate and eloquent our president was, President Trump obviously is renowned for going off script and becoming, I mean, many people consider him bombastic or braggados and there's some validity to that. I think that he was so again, diplomatic, eloquent, articulate, if he could stick to that. President Trump, and I do know Susie Wild has had a big influence on him, as have others in the right place. He has all the right attributes, that version of our president. I thought, I can't imagine anybody what they could say. A reason would be to not be proud of how he presented. And interestingly, because I scour both, you know, the left, I hate being the regular media. What I consider regular media being considered right wing, but more the right of center media, the center media and the left media. I read it all, I watch it all. It is interesting that the left wing media, Rob, had to focus on the protests in London because there wasn't anything else negative they could really say about President Trump. That tells you everything you need to know about the trip and how it went.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I, I used to kind of roll my eyes at the British adoration for the Royal family, but I, I get it now. I really understand it. It is, it's not like a godly sacred thing, but it is a sacred thing for you. It's a tradition that you.

[Hillary Fordwich]

I spent quite a bit of my life explaining to Americans what it means and this is what I always do.

[Rob Carson]

Please do.

[Hillary Fordwich]

Yes, I'm English born and I'm an American by choice. But this is what I will say. Think about anything right now, Rob, you and I ask your audience to do the same. Think about anything, anything that makes you feel really American.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Hillary Fordwich]

And people, it's a president or it's a holiday or it's a. We're such a polarized nation. One of the many things I love about Thanksgiving is you really can't have something against Thanksgiving. Right. But in general, not everybody's Christian. So it's not Christmas, July 4th. A lot of people don't like hot dogs, hamburgers, they don't eat meat or they're not so patriotic or what unite us as a nation. And you think about, some people love Obama, some people loved Reagan, some people loved Bush, some people loved Carter. And we're so polarized. And everything I ever do in America, people have got different opinions. And I would say now, of course, in the uk, now it's different. And there is what is referred to over there. It's called a Republican movement. Ironically, it's for a republic. But very interestingly, it's only ever been about 9 or 10% of the population. When you ask that 9 or 10%, well, the second question, what do you want instead? They don't really come up with much. So here's the issue in England, and I ask Americans to think about this. Every type of furniture is either Queen Anne, Georgian, it has the name of a monocle period. Every type of architecture, Tudor, Stuart, Elizabethan, Victorian, architect. So it's architecture, it's furniture. People think of themselves and relate to themselves. Like, I know I've got a great niece and great nephew. They're the same age as Prince George and Princess Charlotte and they relate to those little kids, whereas our generation relates to different ones. And I've had. And when the Queen passed, I can't tell you, I was actually surprised that I was. I was going on air, actually, I was going on Newsmax and a couple of other networks about her health. And the screen went black because I was watching GB news. And this is what I would say to Americans when that screen went black and they started to play the national anthem. God save the Queen, now it's King. This is what I want Americans to think about in a moment like that. Imagine if every single president you've ever known, Rob, in your lifetime, everybody listening now, every single president goes down in one day. So Reagan, Carter, Obama, Ford, Nixon, they all go down in one go. So number one, it's everything you've ever known in terms of. That all goes in one. Number two, yes, everybody I know said, by the way, I have my mommy's triple strand of pearls. There was an era where a certain kind of person, Mommy wore her pearls cooking, for goodness sake. But everybody wore pearls all the time and everybody came. So my mummy was the Queen's era, right. And people had grandmothers that were there and people say she was the nation's grandmother. So we could. All the different, like, generations. Of course, number one, it was like. It was like. It was like losing a grandmother or a mother.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yes.

[Hillary Fordwich]

So that was really important. And then on top of that, it's like losing that. Then it's. Then it's all going down on the same day. All these, all the leadership goes down in one day. And then last but not least, you think of any memory, you have any memory, and you know what the Royal Family was doing in that era and you make the family. And I could go on. But for our AUDIENCE.

[Rob Carson]

I know, I know.

[Hillary Fordwich]

It's not just a person. It represented so much more. And I, what I said when the Queen passed was basically, she was there, obviously. Churchill was her first Prime Minister. It was an entire era.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yes.

[Hillary Fordwich]

Gone.

[Rob Carson]

It's pretty remarkable. It's pretty remarkable. I noticed that. I just am so proud of not only my president, but our First Lady. I don't think there has been a First lady who has been so graceful and so remarkable since Jackie O to some degree. And I begin to feel that the British media is beginning to take to her a little bit more. I think she has been pretty remarkable to watch over there.

[Hillary Fordwich]

Yeah, I think so. And I think it was wonderful that she spent that time with Princess Catherine. And to your point, she held herself with great dignity and grace and that's very, very admired. I totally, of course it is.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Hey, by the way, I didn't get it. Real quick, we got about another three or four minutes here. Keir Starmer, today, here's Donald Trump's saying that Keir Starmers needs to stop the, the illegal invasion in Britain. Hold on one second, here it is.

Your situation is very similar. You know, you have people coming in and I told the Prime Minister I would stop it. And it doesn't matter if you call out the military, it doesn't matter what means you use, but it's going to destroy. It destroys countries from within. And we're actually now removing a lot.

Of the people that came into our country. Well, that's pretty, pretty big deal to say that in front of Starmer when right now the British people have had their fill of illegal immigration. And for Donald Trump to call that out, that's kind of an earthquake.

[Hillary Fordwich]

Oh, it really was. And I'll tell you something, he's going to get a lot more admiration from the British public because that's such a huge issue. And the way I positioned it, Rob, is you think about how many American and British soldiers died, military men and air force men, how many died just the D day of invasion, let alone the Second World War, trying to fill the Nazi. Could you imagine even contemplating offering the Germans a free four star hotel, plus free food and a free cell phone. And that's exactly what this is then legally. And when you put.

[Rob Carson]

I love, I love that Trump just said it right to his face. He made Starmer look small. Then Starmer said that of all the audacious things he could say, considering that there are people right now who go up to people trying to hang the Union Jack and they want to take they call the Brit flag hate speech. Here is Keir Starmer talking about we will bear down on any limits to free speech, which everybody knows is nonsense.

[Hillary Fordwich]

And on free speech that has long.

[Rob Carson]

Lived in this country. Free speech, it's one of the founding.

[Hillary Fordwich]

Values of the United Kingdom and we protect it jealously.

[Rob Carson]

Would you. Do you believe that Hillary? Do you believe that the. His party does.

[Hillary Fordwich]

I don't know how many of our listeners have heard of a lady called Lucy Connolly. She was the wife, she is the wife of a British member of Parliament. And when the girls, the young white girls were raped by illegal immigrant to Southport in northern northwest England, she put on X. She posted a post saying, you know, okay about get rid of them. And something went nasty. She went out for a walk. She felt bad about what she posted and then she pulled it down. She was arrested and jailed.

[Rob Carson]

I know, I know.

[Hillary Fordwich]

For months and only recently released. And then there was the comedian who was arrested by five armed soldiers. Arrested for one of his posts. Absolutely not. Now it's one thing to incite violence and it's another thing. Of course, of course a fire in America either but people posting their opinions and especially after a crime's been committed and that these people shouldn't be in the country. And I think so he was being not only. It was beyond hypocritical, he was actually lying.

[Rob Carson]

I think he really made a fool of himself. And even Donald Trump was raising his eyebrows when he said such a thing. When you had that, what was it? The comedian who was over in the States and when he arrived in Great Britain he was, he was greeted with arrest because of a social media post. I think it's remarkable. I think the, the relationship he had with King Charles yesterday was amazing. Starmer. I think he made look, made like look like a fool and paved the way for, for Nigel Farage to become the next Prime Minister Great Britain. Listen Hillary, we could talk about this all day. I, I appreciate you so much being on the show. Where can people find information about Hillary Fordwich online?

[Hillary Fordwich]

Well, I hope they'll go to my YouTube channel. It's my name, Hillary 1L Fordwich. I also have a Google my name and you'll see Stroma comes up. I'm actually, I give a lot of keynote speeches, coaching, training, love to speak to anybody and I'm on LinkedIn.

[Rob Carson]

Very good. Well, have a glorious day. Thanks for being here. I appreciate your input when it comes to all things Great Britain. I appreciate you. Let's take a break and come back this is the Rob Carson Show.

Fasten your seat belt deep state. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. It's the Rob Parson Show.

I want to make it clear there's going to be a Democratic majority in just over a year. And to the FCC chairperson and anyone involved in these dirty deals, get a lawyer and save your records, because you're going to be in this room and you're going to be answering questions about the deals that you struck and who benefited and what the cost was to the American people. Eric Swalwell in front of Congress, blowing hard there, thinking that the Democrats are going to retake the House even though they've learned nothing from the last election. It just sucks to be you, don't it, Eric? It just sucks to be you. You're an awful human being and you got your arse handed to you yesterday in the congressional hearing with Cash Patel. And now you're all mad because the only TV host that would have you has been fired. And nobody else will have you on because you're an awful person. There's nothing to like about you at all. You had sex with a Chinese spy for years. No telling what sort of state, state secrets you gave up. You're a very small little man. A very small little man. Here is Eric Swalwell trying to take down Cash Patel and getting eaten for lunch. Director, considering that you've identified these people as, quote, government gangsters, will you recuse yourself from making any investigation decisions about these individuals?

Anyone that has been terminated at the FBI has been done. The question failed to meet the mustard constitutional.

I will work on the audio visual capabilities.

I'm going to borrow your terminology and call on your entire career in Congress.

I want to call BS on your entire career in Congress.

Disgrace to the American people. You can reclaim your time all you want.

I love it. I just love it. And the Democrats were just shouting nonsense. They were just. It wouldn't matter who was in that chair. They were just going make some sort of point that that was pointless. To the FBI director. That is doing a great job as the FBI director. And if you don't believe me, listen.

Under this administration, the FBI has arrested more than 23,000 violent criminals. 23,000 in seven months. That's twice as many year to date. Last year, we've taken over 6,000 firearms off the streets. 6,000 guns are no longer in the hands of criminals. In seven months, we've identified and found and located 4700 child victims. That is a 35.

While Joe Biden was the president. 300,000 or more children were brought across the southern border, trafficked across the southern border for sex and labor. They didn't give a flying rip. They didn't do anything about the fentanyl poisoning. Hundreds of thousands of people killing young people. The open border allowing anyone to come across the southern border regardless of their allegiance to whatever country or terrorist organization to wreak all sorts of damage, gang members and whatnot. And the Democrats, you were down with it. And Adam Swalwell or Eric Swalwell. If you think you're going to win in the midterms, you are out of your nut because a you're intellectually and morally bankrupt. Your, your party is a black hole of death and awfulness and failure and you can't steal elections anymore. Oh my God, what are we going to do? We can't steal elections anymore. We can't rely on fraudulent mail in boats we can't afford. You know, we can't rely on shutting down all of the, the, you know, the, the major states votings in the middle of the night. You know the, the what? They can't cheat anymore is what I'm trying to say. Dear Lord, you can't cheat anymore. Here's Jim, Jim Jordan talking about to Cash Patel, asking him about how the FBI has changed since Cash Patel is now in charge.

Director, yes or no, Is the FBI still spying on parents at school board meetings? No sir. Is the FBI still targeting Catholics? No sir. Is the FBI still spying on President Trump? I don't believe so. Is the FBI still censoring Americans? No sir. Is the FBI still targeting Americans for shopping at Cabela's or purchasing Bibles? Nobody is targeted for their faith. Is the FBI still targeting Americans who are pro life? Nobody is targeting.

And this is why the Democrats are not going to retake power in the midterms. Give me a friggin break. Give me a break. Oh, here's Hank Johnson, the dumbest man to ever be in Congress just out of whole cloth saying that Cash Patel was down with pedophilia. Why are you hiding pedophiles?

Why are you shielding pedophiles?

Why are you protecting such a pedophiles?

That is maybe the most offensive thing you could say to me given the numbers. Well, you have not released the numbers files of pedophiles. You're aware of the.

He's gonna try and talk over him client. Get a sound bite list that was.

Published in the 8th 18,000 I'm the Gentleman has expired. The gentleman yield.

Can you answer the question?

Of course the gentleman can answer the question. Since I took over the FBI, there has been a 33% increase, sir. All of that started under Christopher. Your time is done.

[Hillary Fordwich]

Oh, it didn't.

[Rob Carson]

The witness gets the question and then we'll go to our next 33. Director, sir. And you.

Yeah. This is the pointless rabble of the Democrat Party. What a joke. What a joke. Here is Josh Hawley talking with Cash Patel about how the Democrat Party, like Nazis in Germany going after people of faith like Catholics.

The FBI had recruited informants, attempted to.

Yeah. Into Catholic parish. Your predecessor then testified, sitting right where you are today, he testified that this, I'm going to quote, was a single product by a single field office, end quote. That was a lie. Yes, because we then had additional whistleblowers come forward and say no. Actually, multiple field offices contributed to the drafting of the report. And indeed there was a second anti Catholic memo that the FBI generated. And indeed those memos were distributed to over 1,000 FBI agents across the country. Yeah, our FBI was weaponized against the Catholic Church because Roe v. Wade went bye bye. Yeah, they were. This is just like the Soviet Union. And I'll tell you what, I've been a Catholic. I've not been a practicing Catholic for, you know, I go on special occasions. I go on Christmas and Easter. But even that has waned, to be quite honest. And I'm about ready to change that. I believe on Sunday. It's a big deal for me because I felt alienated by the Catholic Church. I didn't like Francis. Very upset at the Catholic Church for Catholic Charities and what they did with the Southern border, very, very upset. Not over that yet, by the way. But this just really, really ticks me off. And I think when you finally have Catholics who believe in the tenets of the Catholic Church and don't stray like Catholic Charities did and like Rome has done with having a socialist as the Pope for a number of years. If you return to the great traditions of the Catholic Church, it's a grand army of people. And we hold the Mass and the tenets of the Catholic Church very dear to us. And we're tired of Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi being for, you know, killing babies until they're born and. And that them still being accepted Communion, being able to accept communion. And I'm not saying I'm holier than thou, but I'm going to tell you right now, there are some people that should not be in the church, should not be able to receive communion. And I think Catholics are Done with the nonsense, particularly done with being investigated by the FBI. So you've woken up this army. Two people, I'm telling you. And if Democrats think they're going to win the midterms, you're high. I don't know where you're getting your weed, but it must be some pretty good stuff. Coming up next, we've got. We got another guest. I don't have it in front of me, but it's coming up. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hi, it's Tony Marino, host of the super popular Newsmax Daily podcast. A rundown of the day's top headlines and top highlights of Newsmax shows and interviews you may have missed. Plus some sports, stock markets, and even some yucks, all packed into about 20 minutes. Search for the Newsmax Daily with me, Tony Marino on your favorite podcast platform and check out our entire lineup of great podcasts, including Greg Kelly, Rob Carson, and Jerry [e-mail] Listen.

They just called it for Pennsylvania. Charlie, everybody should remember this moment. Remember where you were when this happened. They did not expect this. Charlie, you should have emotion. This is a moment. You totally reformed the gop. Let me give you credit. From right here in Pennsylvania, you say, cliff, stop door knocking across the country. Go back to your home state, own Pennsylvania. That will be the deciding factor. I thought you guys were nuts. We knocked 500,000 doors, we delivered Pennsylvania, and now we've got our country back. Wow. Today is our two year old's birthday and I look at my daughter and that is my why. For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean. We're talking to so many voters that know it is time for change. When people stop talking, that's when you get violence because you start to think the other side is so evil and they lose their humanity. Knock on that extra door, go that extra mile. Talk to that extra friend. I believe it will go down as a day that people Remember. Seeing that 18,000 applications have come in, what would Charlie do? Here's somebody who's emotional about this attack. If you're somebody that has a gut wrenching feeling but you want to take action, Charlie would want you to do the work.

That is a video on Cliff Maloney's Twitter feed that I, you know, I go from waves of grief and I didn't even know Charlie Kirk. I didn't know him. I just, I, you know, I've never known someone, a political and religious figure who I've respected so much and who I would just listen to him speak, no matter who he was. Speaking to. He could be Speaking to a 10 year old, he could be speaking to a college student. He could be debating people at Oxford. It was. It was remarkable. It was remarkable. And what an enormous tragedy, what an enormous loss it is for the world, but what a incredible legacy that is going to only grow. Cliff Maloney is the CEO of a citizens alliance. That was his voice congratulating Charlie on election night when Donald Trump won. Cliff, welcome to the show, man. I'm so glad you're on the show today to talk about Charlie.

I appreciate you guys having me. Rob, big fan of the show.

Thank you, brother. That means a lot to me. It really does. Tell me about Charlie Kirk and your relationship with Charlie Kirk. Obviously, you know, he inspired you. You work together. What. What did he do for you?

Yeah, that's a great question. And let me start by saying, you know, obviously one of the most horrific weeks, not just, you know, for me personally, but, but honestly, the entirety of the conservative movement. And honestly, in America, I mean, this is going to be something I think people remember for years, years to come. Just a horrific tragedy. But now we move forward, right? And so, you know, you asked me my relationship with Charlie, you know, Charlie's the reason my organization was tapped to run the Pennsylvania Chase program. Charlie had called me at the end of 2023 and pretty much said, listen, you know, there's all these new rules with ballot harvesting, ballot chasing, and he said, turning Point. You know, obviously his organization is doing Arizona and Wisconsin and we want you to do Pennsylvania. And PA is my home state. You know, I took it as a great honor. But if it was not for Charlie Kirk, if it was not for his vision, we would have never run the program. And, you know, we worked alongside each other the entire cycle. Just a great mind, a great visionary, a great strategist, and it was an honor to get to work with them.

I love Pennsylvania, by the way. I'm so thrilled to be, you know, near Pennsylvania. And I was just up at Independence Hall. I went for the very first time last weekend. And I'll tell you something, brother, you know, Charlie was assassinated on Wednesday. And it's still hard for me to say it. It's just hard for me to say it. And then Thursday we had 9, 11, Friday, I had been invited up to a thing at the Anne Independence hall where the Constitution was written and there were only 86 people allowed in there. We were there to designate 12th September as the day of the Bible in Pennsylvania. And I'll tell you what, man, I felt it in that room, I felt it. I don't think I would have felt it had Charlie not been murdered two days before, but it. I felt something ethereal. There's a movement in the air, man. And his murder has accelerate, accelerated it. Do you feel that way? Not only politically a move for good away from despotism, but also a rebirth of faith in our country that's going to go around the world?

Oh, I completely feel it. Look, I say there are two major takeaways I have, you know, when I'm kind of analyzing the situation, removing my friendship out of it and just trying to be, you know, objective of what's happening in the country. One, I think we've got a spiritual awakening. I think, you know, myself included. Look, I'm a Christian man, but I'm not perfect. And I just think that Charlie really is. This incident is forcing so many people to reevaluate their faith and to think about the purpose of living, you know, the purpose of those that are in politics. You know, what, what is driving them? What is their motivation? And I think that, you know, that's the first thing. It's a spiritual reawakening. And I think the second thing is the response from some of these just unhinged, radical, just horrible people. Rob. I mean, you know, I really, it was tough for me at first because I thought it would just be a couple Internet trolls. But some of these people that are cheering and that are justifying or they're saying that he deserved to die, these are schoolteachers, these are paramedics, these are normal people. Like, this is not the fringe of society.

I know.

And that's why I say that's the second takeaway because I think a lot of normal people saw those reactions. People that are not active in politics or maybe they didn't follow Charlie and what did that force them to do? They started looking at Charlie, listening to him, and I think a lot of them are saying to themselves, this guy is not some fringe radical. He's not some fascist. He's a 31 year old kid who's a nice guy that has a set of beliefs. And I don't think the left and these crazies that are cheering for his death, I don't think they realize how much this is going to just completely be something that they sprung upon themselves to bring people to the right. That's my prediction.

Cliff Maloney, CEO of Citizens Alliance. You know, after January 7th or October 7th, I should say, the Democrat Party and the left worldwide tried to make the world Forget about, about the second Holocaust. And in their protestation of Israel's response, they exposed their dark side. I didn't realize that anti Semitism was so rampant on college campuses. And I like to use the expression they expose their flanks so we could kick their asses. And I think this has happened with Charlie Kirk's passing. You had all of these people you knew were kind of, you know, that were very left and hated Donald Trump, but you didn't realize how dark their souls had become. There's a reason why Charlie should have never died. But look what it is shown. Look at the rot and the cancer that is exposed. And now we can tackle it. And now we can realize how far that we have descended and now we can turn things around.

Yeah, 100% agree. You know, and they say it's always darkest just before the light. And in a weird way, the light has been shown, right, the light on some of the scum and the vile people. But it also shows you how much the left, as much as they're going to try to say, well, you know, it wasn't we, it wasn't they. You can't say that everybody on the left took out Charlie. Look at the rhetoric. Listen to the rhetoric. When you call Trump Hitler and all the people around him, you know, as his soldiers, you justified doing something like this. But I agree with you, Rob. These people are now exposed and they deserve to be exposed for being horrible human beings.

Now, I want to continue the conversation on the other break. Cliff, if that's cool with you. I want to get your thoughts on Jimmy Kimmel's firing. I also want to talk to you about the big ceremony happening this week at the remembrance for Charlie. And then also Erica has been named the new CEO of tpusa. I want to get your thoughts on that, if that's cool. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Coming up, a little bit more from Cliff Maloney. I want to play something that's going to tear me up. I'm going to tell you right now, it's going to tear me up. It's going to tear up. Cliff, yesterday, something extraordinary from Glenn Beck in his studio. He, he did a special presentation of a gift that he got.

I brought something with me today that I thought was appropriate while I did the show that I would sit in front of Charlie's microphone. It was given to me after the.

Death of Rush Limbaugh by his wife.

It is Russia's golden microphone. I think it's appropriate that it Sits in front of Charlie's microphone.

What I would have said to Charlie.

Was, you were thinking too small. I want to be Rush Limbaugh someday. I'm a broadcaster. Rush was a broadcaster, but Charlie was a broadcaster and a narrow caster. Charlie was a pastor and a priest and listening to the way he could argue and think differently. He was a rabbi as well, and.

One of the best.

He was a political organizer. He was a political think tank himself. He was a compassionate friend. He surpassed Rush Limbaugh, oh, yes, by miles. We'll continue in a minute.

I tell you what, I, Cliff Maloney, by the way, CEO of Citizens alliance in Pennsylvania, joins us. And I started writing for Russia in 1989. I was a kid right out of college and I watched his meteoric R is. He was 37 years old when he started. Glenn Beck was 37 years old when he started on, on September 12, 2001. Nationally. I don't even know if you could quantify what Charlie Kirk did and the impact he had in his short 31 years. Honestly, you think about it, Cliff, it is. We have seen someone beyond extraordinary, a historic figure. We're not even, we're not even able to digest what he did and the impact because it's going to continue to grow. What are your thoughts, man?

Yeah, look, you know, I was lucky enough to get a peek under the hood in terms of turning Point, you know, to work alongside Charlie, to work alongside his entire team. And I just, you know, anything that Charlie touched turned to gold. You know, he understood different things. Anything that was a way to change hearts and minds, to change public policy, to change electoral outcomes. You know, Charlie took on pieces of things that some people, you know, would have organizations for 50 years and they wouldn't be able to crack the code on one of the tactics. Charlie cracked the code on all of them. Whether it was the prove me wrongs, whether it was galvanizing young people, whether it was get out the vote, whether it was messaging, whether it was faith. There's 10 other things on the list, right? Charlie Kirk will go down in American history as one of the most influential people that has really ever come together in that cross section of not just ideas, but action. And when you look at all the programs, you know, the professionalism, I mean, you know, even, even just look at that RFK event of him bringing a 31 year old kid, brought a Kennedy to the Republican ticket and made that event happen. I mean, I mean, and that's just one of 10 things that he did that led to Trump winning in 2024 on a massive scale. There is no way for us to calculate it right now.

I know. And you know what I keep hearing. And Cliff, you knew him, everybody. I mean, I've never heard of someone who reached out to so many people on a personal level to inspire them to get involved, to do things, to encourage, to cheerlead, all of these things. And I know he did the same thing to you.

Yeah. And that's. That's who Charlie was. You know, it was never about him. All the naysayers, all the haters, all the critics. It was always, you know, this is an ego trip, or, you know, this is just another grifter. And they couldn't be further from the truth. Charlie cared about one thing. Winning for America. And he would put together strategies, he would get different people on board, bring everyone together. I mean, it's such a rarity. And the reason it's a rarity, Rob, is because in the world that we live in, every single incentive pushes you away from that. Every single incentive pushes you towards making it about yourself or focusing on you. We're doing something that, you know, they take the easy path. And what's Al Pacino saying? Son of a woman. You know, when the crap hits the fan, some guys run and some guys stay. And, you know, Charlie was one of those guys. He was in the fight. He was a problem solver, a critical thinker. And when Rush says that he was a think tank of one, it's so true. I mean, I would go to Charlie, you know, any question I had, it was 24 hours, seven days a week. Charlie Kirk was on, never off. And that is so rare, especially for somebody. I'm 34 years old. I can call him a kid, even though he's three years younger than me, because, you know, he's been at this thing for a decade and just he doesn't take a break.

You know what?

Have been phenomenal.

Yeah. And I'm going to tell you, Erica is going to be the CEO of TP usa. So it's not going to be forgotten. It's only going to grow 37,000 new chapter requests, which is something that wouldn't have happened I had Charlie Kirk not been killed. But you know what else, Cliff? I'm gonna tell you something. I haven't been to church since my mother died four years ago, but I'm going Sunday because of Charlie.

So I appreciate you sharing that with me. And I have heard, you know, countless stories, and I encourage you to go. And, you know, it's. It's it's such a moment of reflection for all of us. No matter how much in the fight you are, how much you want, whether you knew Charlie or didn't, to see an innocent person who's saying, hey, I want to have a conversation. And the response is to take that person's life. It is a moment that I think anybody realizes. If you have ever looked for a clear picture of good versus evil, you saw it last week. And I think it forces all of us to think, to think about what we're seeing and what we're doing with our lives.

Evil once again exposed its flank so we can kick its ass. Cliff, I'm so glad to talk to you, brother. I'm going to be here for a while, so we're going to be having you on. And I'd love to work more with Citizens Alliance. Where can people find out about your organization, my friend?

Sure. On X. It's just at Maloney. M A L O N E Y. And our handle is Doors Win Wars. That's at Doors Win wars on all of the platforms. Rob, so appreciate you being a patriot and for having me today.

All right, we'll talk to you soon, brother. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. This is a ROB Carson show. Cliff Maloney, it was a great interview. I was just talking to the streamers for you guys listening and I'll try to get through this without choking up. My mother, the last time I went to church was on midnight mass four years ago and I remember watching her that we had to bring her in a wheelchair and she dropped the communion host on the floor. She was so weak. And, and I realized that she wasn't going to be around. And I have been away from the church since. And I'm not saying the church is all of it because I have experienced a lot of different things. I'm sober now and, and, and I've had, and I'm experiencing joy again for the first time in a couple of years. And, and I just think we are at such a, a turning point. We are in a turning point. We are in the turning point. None of this is accidental. No, you, you and me here together, none of it's accidental. Donald Trump getting through all of the things they threw at him. All or the FBI being sicked on Catholic churches, the on, on CRT parents, you know, opposing this nonsense in schools. And, and then they tried to put Donald Trump in jail. They tried to take his fortune to try to take him off the ballot for God's sake. They didn't want to be a candidate. And then ultimately, the final weekend before the RNC convention, they tried to murder him. Twice. They tried to murder him the weekend before nc. And then a couple months later. There is a reason we're here. Charlie Kirk's assassination is dreadful. But it has caused something remarkable to accelerate at the light of. At the speed of light. I can feel it. And I know you can, too. And I'm not trying to evangelize. This isn't just about God. This is about good. This is about freedom and all of this. And that's why I'm here, and that's why you're here. And. And Jimmy Kimmel getting fire last night doesn't mean a hill of beans. But you know what? It's the beginning of a change. People are done with the darkness, the blackness, the awfulness that we have been through and gone through and the depths to which we were taken by the people in that place a mile away across the Potomac river from where I sit right now. And I'm here, and you're here to change it. There you go. How's that sound? Have a glorious day. Tomorrow's Friday. God bless you. America's founded Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk, his glorious family. And until tomorrow, which is by the grace of God, Finally, Friday. Do not catch the stupid. I love you guys.

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