Holman Takes Minneapolis: Checkmate, Hippies

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Holman Takes Minneapolis: Checkmate, Hippies"

The Rob Carson Show (Newsmax Podcasts) – January 29, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show features a lively, satirical, and impassioned discussion of recent political events, focusing on former President Trump’s decisive move to restore order in Minneapolis by appointing Tom Homan as “border czar.” The episode explores Trump’s broader strategies, Social Security reform, the status of the southern border, and recent developments in the 2020 election investigation in Georgia, with perspectives from guests including Tom Homan and Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump's Minneapolis Move & Tom Homan's Role

• Tom Homan’s Deployment:
  Appointed by Trump as border czar, Homan is sent to Minneapolis to regain law and order after Democratic policies allegedly contributed to criminality and chaos.

  "I've been on the ground less than three full days. I got in here Monday. President of the United States called me Monday morning and asked me to deploy here." — Tom Homan [01:51]

• Goals:
  • Remove threats from the community
  • Restore federal and local law enforcement cooperation
  • Focus on deporting criminal illegal aliens
• Effectiveness:
  Carson and Beck celebrate the move as tactically brilliant, avoiding spectacle and violence while achieving policy goals.

  "Donald Trump defused the rage machine ... He is more deliberate than, I think, Reagan, honestly." — Rob Carson [05:18]

2. Satire & Parody: The "Thomas Homan" Song

• Jim Gosman performs a parody song (“Trump’s new borders are, will clean up the mess…”) celebrating Tom Homan’s tough stance on immigration, echoing the show’s comedic tone and political perspective. [03:04–04:22]

3. Social Security Reform: The Trump Account Initiative

• Critique of Social Security:
  Carson brands it as "the greatest pyramid scheme in American history" and lauds Trump's plan to replace it with personal savings accounts for children.

  “Social Security is a pyramid scheme. ... For the first time in 50, 60 years, Donald Trump’s doing something about it with these brilliant savings accounts for your kids.” — Rob Carson [06:00]

• Practical Impact:
  The proposed “Trump Account” allows parents to save tax-free for their children, potentially reaching $1 million by age 30 if maximally funded.

  “They’re saying if you … put up to $5,000 a year in your kid’s account … by the time they’re 30 years old, they’ll have a million dollars. Can you believe that?” — Rob Carson [40:08]

4. Glenn Beck on Trump’s “3D Chess” Strategy

• Beck appears to reinforce Carson’s thesis: Trump’s approach reframes the conflict, isolates extremists, and removes the left’s ability to exploit chaos for political gain.

  “Not a surrender. I believe this is a reframing of the fight. ... If Minnesota refuses, Trump wins loudly. That's checkmate positioning.” — Glenn Beck [10:59, 12:04, 12:17, 30:12]

5. Critique of the Democratic Party & Progressive Policies

• Carson repeatedly accuses Democrats of:
  • Rigging elections and losing touch with mainstream America
  • Propping up failing Social Security and sanctuary cities
  • Wanting to abolish ICE, DHS, and border enforcement altogether
• Choice quotes and satire underscore the presenter's contempt for Democratic officials and their “death spiral into hell.”

  "My God, you people suck. I mean, really super duper suck. Honestly." — Rob Carson [10:05]
  “Democrat Party is intellectually and morally bankrupt, and they have been for decades. And now their cabal, their plan … is collapsing on itself so, so beautifully.” — Rob Carson [18:06]

6. Tom Homan's Press Conference Highlights

• Homan stresses common sense law enforcement cooperation and the need to remove repeat criminal offenders from communities.

  “Jurisdictions that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities are sanctuaries for criminal. ... I didn't come here looking for photo ops or headlines. I come here looking for solutions.” — Tom Homan [13:27, 15:13]

• Homan also lauds local cooperation, highlighting a new arrangement where jails report release dates of dangerous individuals to ICE.

  “County jails may notify us of the release dates of criminal public safety risks.” — Tom Homan [14:16]

7. Debate with Progressive Politicians

• Audio clips from Rep. Pramila Jayapal and border officials showcase the ideological gap on immigration and law enforcement.
• The show presents left-leaning statements as naïve or dangerous and contrasts them sharply with testimony from law enforcement.

8. Georgia Election Investigation: Live Interview with Rep. Mike Collins

• Discussion revolves around the recent FBI raid in Fulton County regarding the 2020 election, highlighting distrust from constituents in the electoral process.

  “If the people of Georgia are not satisfied with your answers, then you need to make sure that they are. That's your job. And it should have already been looked at.” — Mike Collins [24:52]

• Collins advocates for the SAVE Act (national voter ID) and asserts the importance of ensuring only legal citizens can vote.

  “We're the only country in the world that doesn't require this.” — Mike Collins [27:33]

• He underscores Georgia’s high rate of ICE arrests, claiming the state works well with federal authorities, in contrast with Minneapolis’ “deep blue sanctuary” status.

9. Outlook on 2026 Midterms

• Both Carson and Collins predict Republican gains, citing economic improvements and the perceived ineffectiveness of Democratic strategies.

  “We have the opportunity to pick up seats in the House … and get a whole lot closer to 60 in the Senate because this economy is already turning.” — Mike Collins [33:42]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tom Homan on Law Enforcement:

  "I didn’t come to Minnesota for photo ops or headlines ... I came here to seek solutions." [15:58]

• Rob Carson on Democratic Policy:

  "Democrats haven't had to win an election on ideas in a very long time ... Because they steal and rig elections." [05:52]

• Glenn Beck on Trump's Strategy:

  "If Minnesota complies, Trump wins quietly. If Minnesota refuses, Trump wins loudly. That's not blinking. That's checkmate positioning." [12:16]

• Mike Collins on Voter ID:

  "We need a national voter ID to make sure that ... only legal citizens are voting." [27:33]

• Jessica Targlow on Sanctuary Cities:

  "Why is there so much violence in Minneapolis and not in Texas? I don’t care. I don’t care about any of this performance anymore ... People are voting for the law." [19:37–21:00]

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Timed Segment Highlights

• [01:51–02:12] — Tom Homan introduces his mission in Minneapolis as Trump’s newly appointed “border czar.”
• [03:04–04:22] — Jim Gosman’s parody song about Tom Homan.
• [05:18–07:00] — Carson lays out why he thinks Trump’s move in Minneapolis was brilliant, not reckless.
• [09:06–10:05] — Homan’s press conference addressing Democratic politicians’ failures at the border.
• [10:59–12:17] — Glenn Beck explains why Trump’s Minneapolis move is “checkmate positioning.”
• [13:27–16:26] — Homan on cooperation with Minnesota officials and the practical steps being taken.
• [23:01–29:31] — Rep. Mike Collins discusses Georgia’s election investigation and voter confidence.
• [30:59–33:42] — Collins and Carson discuss Tom Homan, law enforcement, and Minneapolis vs. Georgia on ICE cooperation.
• [40:08–40:47] — Carson touts the Trump Account’s potential for generational wealth.

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Conclusion & Tone

Rob Carson’s show is relentlessly partisan, combative, and satirical, peppered with musical parody and impassioned rants. The episode positions Trump’s administration as wisely strategic and the Democratic Party as lost and self-destructive. Guests like Tom Homan and Rep. Mike Collins reinforce the law-and-order, anti-sanctuary, pro-Trump narrative, while Carson repeatedly hammers Democrats on immigration, voter integrity, and economic policy.

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For further insights into the practical impacts of recent policy shifts, listeners should pay particular attention to the extended interview with Rep. Mike Collins ([23:01–36:58]) and Tom Homan's commentary ([01:51–16:29]).

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

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[Jim Gosman]

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[Mike Collins]

We've.

[Tom Homan]

I've been on the ground less than three full days. I got in here Monday. President of the United States called me Monday morning and asked me to deploy here.

[Rob Carson]

Awesome.

[Tom Homan]

Got here Monday evening.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you did.

[Tom Homan]

And I'm staying. So the problem's gone.

[Rob Carson]

Come on, baby.

[Tom Homan]

Good morning. I'm Tom Holman. I'm the border czar for President Trump.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, you are.

[Tom Homan]

I'm here on behalf of the President along with US Commissioners, Commissioner for US Customers and Border Protection, Rodney Scott and Marcos Charles, who's leading the enforcement effort here right now. I've been on the ground since to regain law and order in the city beloved by many.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Tom Homan]

And work together to remove threats from the community.

[Rob Carson]

That's what we're gonna do.

[Tom Homan]

During the past administration. Well, I'll remember, more than 10 million illegal aliens entered this nation.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God.

[Tom Homan]

Many were national security threats, public safety threats.

[Rob Carson]

He said illegal aliens. We can't remember.

[Tom Homan]

Over 2 million.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Tom Homan]

2 million known gotaways.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[Tom Homan]

2 million people. He paid more to get away. Yeah. Why? That should scare the hell out of everybody.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely. But now we got Mr. Ho man in charge. Thank you very much. It's Thursday, kids. Welcome to the Rob Carson Show. Here's Jim Gossip.

[Jim Gosman]

Trump's new borders are. Will clean up the mess.

[Rob Carson]

The mess.

[Jim Gosman]

Kamala. She did not address open borders. He will abort and illegals he will deport. Thomas o'. Male. He will say no mail. You must go mayor. Mexico mayor. You're headed back. Thomas Homan. He's a former cop. Border jumpers. Thomas gonna stop. Used to be in charge of ice. Come Eagles. Tom will not be nice. Thomas.

[Rob Carson]

O man.

[Jim Gosman]

They ought to know, man. He's not a showman. Thomas Holman will kick you out.

[Tom Homan]

You better start packing now.

[Jim Gosman]

Thomas Holeman, he is your full man.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. That is Jim Gosman, of course. I did the Dan Blues brother, the bass part there. That's what I kind of do. That's what I want to do. Thank you very much. Welcome to the show. It's. It's T minus one day till Friday, kids, and man, we got it. We got a hell of a show lined up for you today. We got guests on the show. We got new comedy. We got good news coming out because. Because you know what? Here's the deal. Once again, I'm right. The Democrat Party is doing a death spiral into hell. They. Donald Trump did a brilliant move in Minneapolis. Brilliant move in Minneapolis. I knew it the night that it happened when he said, you know what? We're going to pull out ice. We're going to send Tom Holman in. I went, huh? What? I wanted the Insurrection Act. I wanted those hippies to get the snot beat out of them. I really wanted the hippies to get the snot beat out of them. I really did. I think you did, too. But it turns out what he did was pretty amazing. And even Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck is commenting. I want to share that in a second because Glenn is echoing what I said earlier in this week. It was a brilliant, brilliant tactical move by Donald Trump that nobody expected it. And, you know, everybody thinks that Donald Trump has a hair trigger. And Donald Trump is, you know, not deliberate and all that. He is more deliberate than, I think, Reagan, honestly. You're thinking, oh, he's a playboy. He's crazy. He's this. He's that really, really surgically removing Maduro without having to, you know, blow up any buildings or anything. You know, going in surgical strike with regard to Iran and the nuclear facilities, creating peace all over the country. Very deliberate, very deliberate. Right now he's got, you know, an armada in the Persian Gulf ready to take out the Ayatollah. You know, there's that going there. He's not just going in like George W. Bush and, you know, sending in troops and having a 20 year war where thousands and thousands of our soldiers are either returned home in boxes or tragically injured for life, mentally or physically. It's just kind of crazy, isn't it? Kind of crazy. At the Democrat Party you keep doubling down on stupid, stupid, stupid. You're still doubling down on the same crap that you got your ass kicked in November. And I love it. I just, I love it, I love it, I love it. And I think the reason being is Democrats haven't had to win an election on ideas in a very long time. Do you know why? Because they steal and rig elections. There you go. They don't have, they're not in touch at all with mainstream America. They have no clue. Yesterday, Donald Trump destroyed the biggest pyramid scheme in the history of America. He essentially changed it. We've been begging for the change for decades. Donald Trump effectively neutered the greatest pyramid scheme in American history. What is it? Social Security. Social Security is a pyramid scheme. You pay into it. And as you pay into it, all that money gets sent out to other people and then you're supposed to rely on it when you get old. And there's nothing there. There's nothing there. There's nothing in your account. Your account is a number on paper. There's no money there. The money won't be there until your children are paying into Social Security for your retirement. It's a pyramid scheme. And for the first time in 50, 60 years, Donald Trump's doing something about it with these brilliant savings accounts for your kids. Oh my God. Again, Again. I know that you Democrats, you loved President Pudding for brains, who spent 40% of his time on vacation and wrecked the country. But we've got a President here who is ushering in revolutionary change like we never could have dreamed up. You, you Social Security recipients, guess what? You just got the largest Social Security income increase in the history of Social Security when he got rid of the income tax on it. Normally you get, I got $3 a month this year, thanks, government. Are you out of your friggin minds? How about keeping the money you've already been taxed on and not being taxed on the money you spent your whole damn life paying taxes on. How about that? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. But Democrats are like, oh, we're going to defund. Nice. And we're going to defund the. And we're going to impeach Donald Trump at the 25th Amendment. Keep doing that, please. Please keep doing the crazy. Because you have no chance of the midterm elections. Don't tell them. Shh. They have no chance of the midterm elections because they're wrong about everything. Here's Tom Homan yesterday, by the way. He did it well, this morning. It was this morning. He had a hell of a press conference. Never. Never voice. Never raised up. Even Stephen, cool as a cucumber. Getting everything done.

[Tom Homan]

I also want to remember, the politicians are continually attacking us. Where were they the last four years?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, where's that?

[Tom Homan]

When the number of women, children, sex trafficking went all time high?

[Rob Carson]

Didn't care.

[Tom Homan]

Where were they when a quarter million Americans died from fentanyl? Came across the border?

[Rob Carson]

Didn't care.

[Tom Homan]

Where were they when women and children are dying? Making that journey.

[Rob Carson]

Did not care.

[Tom Homan]

Where were they able fourth. Over 4,000 aliens making that journey died. Historic record. Where were they?

[Rob Carson]

Along the Darien Gap. The. The buzzards got fat. I'm not kidding. Got fat from the corpses of people making the trek.

[Tom Homan]

Not a word.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tom Homan]

Now we're just trying to respond to what happened last four years and keeping this country safe.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[Tom Homan]

And we're arresting a lot of public safety threats. Take them off the streets, which make this country safer. Keep. President Trump promised make this country safer.

[Rob Carson]

He is. Yeah.

[Tom Homan]

And that's what we're doing.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Too bad. So sad for you Democrats. My God, you people suck. I mean, really super duper suck. Honestly. Glenn Beck, you know, I remember earlier this week and many people I received, you know, it wasn't really consternation. It was like really, really. I wanted to see the hippies get their butts kicked in Minneapolis. I wanted that insurrection act. And I said, no, no, no. I think something else is going on here. I think it could be a brilliant move because I think Donald Trump defused the rage machine. And now the Democrats and the leftist libtards in Minnesota, the radicals, they don't even know what to protest. It's just ice. Ice. They're just throwing it out there. Oh, we hate ice. Ice. You know, they don't have anything now they're just going to do we hate ice around the country and think that's going to catch fire. It's not going to catch fire. I said that Donald Trump was playing 3D chess, and the move that he made up there was amazing. Here's Glenn Beck yesterday.

[Glenn Beck]

Not a surrender. I believe this is a reframing of the fight.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

The goal here is to get the really bad criminals off the streets. That's what he wanted. So when he talks to Walls and Fry, I don't think this is capitulation.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

I think these were traps. He asked for one narrow, morally defensible thing. Turn over the illegal immigrants already in prison and in jail. This does two things. It isolates the extremists. Because if Waltz and Fry defuses the.

[Rob Carson]

Rage machine fuse, that Trump can actually.

[Glenn Beck]

Truthfully say, look, I offered a focused, humane, criminal only solution.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[Glenn Beck]

And they're still standing in the way. Next, agents are leaving Minneapolis. When I read that, I'm like, what? The intelligence warrants and targeting is continuing.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

But cooperation is demanded through custody and transfers instead of street ops.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Glenn Beck]

It's less spectacle, same authority, cleaner lanes. And he says, we're sending in somebody else that can work with you.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Glenn Beck]

Who does he send? Tom Holman. Holman's role is just really simple. You don't have to like us. Just hand over the criminals. I'm just here to get the criminals.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, just hand them over.

[Glenn Beck]

And if Minnesota complies, Trump wins quietly.

[Rob Carson]

There you go.

[Glenn Beck]

If Minnesota refuses, Trump wins loudly. That's not blinking. That's checkmate positioning.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. They wanted summer of 2020 all over again, and guess what? Ain't gonna happen. We learned from men. We learned from then. And then you guys rigged and stole an election. And we had four years to think about it and strategize, and here we are now, 250th anniversary of our birth, and we are in a good position. All right, so we've got a lot of stuff coming up on the show. Many special guests. At the bottom of the hour gonna be talking to, oh, Mike Collins, representative from Georgia, because the FBI rated the Fulton county the ballots, where they kept the ballots there from 2020. And the left is freaking out. The Democrats are freaking out. I don't know why they would if the election was free and fair. Why would you even wait? You should open the door, say, come on in. Look at them, man. Look at them. But they're freaking out. So we'll talk to him at the bottom of the hour. The number here is 800-922-6680. This is a Thursday edition of the Rob Carson Show.

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[Tom Homan]

Jurisdictions that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities are sanctuaries for criminal. Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals and endangers the residents of the community. To be clear, we did not agree with Minnesota state and local officials. I didn't ask them to be immigration officers. I'm asking them to be cops working with the cops to help the state clear families off the street.

[Rob Carson]

How about that?

[Tom Homan]

Rather than arresting the same public safety threat, significant public safety threat, over and over again, they agree to work with us to identify those people and remove them. I'm also pleased to announce I had a very good meeting with Attorney General, Attorney General Ellison, and he has clarified for me that county jails may notify us of the release dates of criminal public safety risks.

[Rob Carson]

Well, there you go. Mission accomplished. No more hippies getting in the way and trying to kill ICE officers. Run them over and stuff. It's just amazing. Just really, really amazing and actually pretty damned awesome. A little bit more from Tom Homan, who is now in charge of Minneapolis. The hippies don't know what to do. They don't know what to protest. They're lashing out now. It's just ICE in general. Oh, we hate ice. We hate ice. Which is kind of odd in the city of Minne to be so anti ice.

[Tom Homan]

You know, this is common sense cooperation that allows to draw down on the number of people we have here. Yeah, Yes, I said it. Draw down the number of people here because we have the efficiency and safety of the jails. In my meetings with Governor Wallace, AG Ellison and Mayor Fry, as well as state and local law enforcement, again, I appreciate they all acknowledge that we do have federal immigration laws in this country.

[Rob Carson]

I think they're afraid that the DOJ is going to crawl up their butts.

[Tom Homan]

That have been passed by Congress in that place.

[Rob Carson]

There's a lot of play here.

[Tom Homan]

I think it really is legitimate law enforcement agency charged with enforcing those laws. ICE is enforcing laws enacted by Congress, federal statute. The federal government has carried this mission out perfectly. First thing I said to senior staff when I walked in here is what I told you earlier. I didn't come here looking photo ops or headlines. I come here looking for solutions.

[Rob Carson]

You know, he just looks like, you know, a law enforcement SVU kind of guy. He keeps it low. He's like standing there in front of the, you know, like NYPD Blue. He's standing there. He's delivering the speech and he goes now, be safe out there. That's what honestly. Right. He's just so, he's so good. And Tom Homeman is very matter of fact, very real, very connected. He's one of us. He's one of us. That's one of the great things about him. And here he is just defending ICE in general.

[Tom Homan]

I've heard many people want to know why we're talking to people who they don't consider friends in administration. Bottom line is you can't fix problems if you don't have discussions. I didn't come to Minnesota for photo ops or headlines. You haven't seen me. I came here to seek solutions and that's what we're going to do. And we've come a long way and we got some good wins for the people of Minnesota, I think.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Tom Homan]

And for the administration and for the safety, security of this city.

[Rob Carson]

That's pretty darn cool. But what, of course, do the, do the Democrats have to offer? This is Pramila Jayapal. Now, I don't know if you knew this, but the southern border was open for four years and a whole lot of people died and got trafficked and were killed by fentanyl.

We really need to, as soon as we get the gavels back, we have to dismantle DHS and ICE and cb.

Well, that's the most stupid, insane thing you could ever say.

And we have to reconstruct.

[Border Security Official]

Instruct them.

[Rob Carson]

No, they really should be doing. Remember, don't let people tell you that. These are agencies that have always existed and they need to exist. They didn't exist before 9 11.

Wow. Here is what happened when Joe Biden was the president.

The president has done more to secure the border and to deal with this issue of immigration than anybody else.

Is the border open, Mr. Secretary? No, it is not.

[Border Security Official]

What you're looking at is nonstop illegal crossings out there as well with little to no resistance.

[Rob Carson]

On the US Side. Biden has the authority to close this.

[Border Security Official]

Border today if he wanted to. He lacks the will to get the job done.

[Rob Carson]

The situation at the southern border is showing no signs of easing up. Now the state of Florida is stepping up to help stem the flow of migrants into the United States as part.

[Border Security Official]

Of a years long effort for us to help do what the federal government has refused to do, which is to actually defend this country's borders. What has happened as a result?

[Rob Carson]

A lot of the illegal crossings are now in. A big majority of them are now.

[Border Security Official]

In California and Arizona.

[Rob Carson]

Blue states run by blue governors who really aren't Doing any sort of. Yeah, because the Democrat Party is intellectually and morally bankrupt, and they have been for decades. And now their cabal, their plan, their. The invasion used to overturn your vote, use your tax money to enrich their friends, and load up a bunch of third world refugees with all sorts of largesse so they'll vote Democrat because Democrats people are leaving Democrat states. California, New York, they're leaving. They're streaming out because the policies are absolute crap. And now their house of cards is collapsing. Oh, my God, it's collapsing on itself so, so beautifully. But of course, they're. They're going bananas. As I said, they die like movie vampires. Clawing, kicking, screaming, doing everything they can to drag into hell with them. This is a small bunch of wannabe Nazis. That's what they are. In a country of 350 million, we outnumber them. If we have to hunt you down the way they hunted down decades, we will find your identities. We will find you. We will achieve justice.

[Tom Homan]

Stephen Miller, like a man named Ben Dson.

[Rob Carson]

He was the one who created the internment cancer, Japanese Heinrich Himmler and the. In the. In the Nazi.

Yeah, Stephen Miller's a Jew. Gutfeld, last night, I think, really hit the nail on the head. He did one of his. You know, he went off. Listen to this. Because I think whenever I hear Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, you know what I hear now? Blah, blah, blah.

[Jessica Targlow]

Here's three pages of women who have been murdered by illegal aliens in the last, like, seven or eight years. The seven or eight years that we have been here talking about this and mocked over it. We showed the embassy that showed the border being overrun and people laughed at us. And now you're here. It's like you're the maid Jessica Targlow to clean up a mess, and somebody there is staring at you going, oh, you got to clean it up better. No, you made the mess. This is the Democrat Party's mess there. I'm bored by this. Yeah, I'm absolutely bored by this. I'm bored by the Nazi stuff. I'm bored by the concerned people in the media. They were not concerned when innocent women were raped and murdered. You deserve no attention on this. You deserve no credibility on this. It's actually comical because here's my. Here's my feeling was that it seems like you're ready for another one. Yeah, you had good. That went for a couple of weeks. You had this guy, went for a week or so. You're gonna need a third one. This is what this is about, because this is what creates the motivation, the motivation for this drama. Why is it that the cities that aren't sanctuary aren't having any violence? You never explain your own ignorance. Why is there so much violence in Minneapolis and not in Texas? I don't care. I don't care about any of this performance anymore, Jessica. It's done. And you know what? Neither does Trump. People are voted for the law.

[Rob Carson]

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[Border Security Official]

FBI agents spent the afternoon inside the records warehouse for the Fulton County, Georgia Board of Elections. The matter is sealed before a court, meaning details are limited. But we can report this is related to the 2020 presidential election. Sources tell Fox News that agents retrieved documents, phones and computers after a judge signed a warrant. President Trump has long made Georgia and specifically Fulton County a target of his complaints relating to the 2020 election.

[Rob Carson]

You know, back then when the, when the, what the water pipe burst and they had to stop counting the votes and stuff. And then, oh, they found all these boxes of ballots and these suitcases under a table and some other weird stuff. I guess the same water emergency disaster happened in battleground states that night at the same time. It's amazing how these plumbing disasters happen. A lot of fast talking Democrats in Fulton county yesterday just panicking left and right. Mike Collins, representative from the great state of Georgia, joins us on the Newsmax hotline. How are you today, sir?

[Mike Collins]

Hey, man, I'm doing fine.

[Rob Carson]

How about y', all, Buddy, I couldn't be any better. It made me so happy to see finally something happening here. For years we've been told we cannot have an opinion on the 2020 election because it was perfectly fine on the up and up. And now that we actually are kind of investigating it a little bit, you'd think that people, Democrats in Fulton county, wanted to defend themselves and say, hey, we got nothing to hide here. Not the case, is it?

[Mike Collins]

No, it's not the case, but that's to be expected. But the real. The real meat of the matter here is the fact that, you know, we're out here every day stomping around this great state, and there are still a lot of questions, and people don't have confidence in the election system. If they don't have confidence in it, then they're not going to participate. It makes it harder to get them to want to participate. And so this investigation is needed. Cash Patel, he's a great man. He's doing a fantastic job with the FBI. And I'm sure that at the end of the day, you know, they're going to get the answers or they're going to. They're going to. The truth will come out of this thing, and we'll see what's been going on.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know what is so frustrating, and I'm sure you hear this from your constituents who are like me, who the day after the election, my Facebook profile, with all of my listeners, all of my listeners on there, it just disappeared. The day after the election, I didn't even have a post. I had no repercussion. I had no recourse. I had no reasoning. I was silenced on all social media with regard to the election, the night of the election, all of a sudden, for the first time in history, they just stopped counting votes and restarted the next morning. And we've had to sit here and have our face rubbed in it for this many years. For six years, we've had our face rubbed in it by people who say it's settled, even though we never had a chance to have a hearing on it. And I think this is gigantic, and I know you can feel it from your constituents.

[Mike Collins]

I know you can feel it. People have been welcoming this. People have been asking for this, and there's nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, this is one of our basic rights that we have here in this country, and that's to cast your vote, and you should have the ability to cast it knowing that with confidence that it's not being stolen or anything's been messed with or people that are voting, that aren't supposed to be voting, and there's nothing wrong with, have questions. You know, we had. When this first happened, we had one of the Secretary of State's PR guys out there. And he said, I'm going to tell you for the third time, I don't care how many times you need to come out and do a press conference. If the people of Georgia are not satisfied with your answers, then you need to make sure that they are. That's your job. And it should have already been looked at. Thank goodness that we've got people that are continuing to charge forward with this. Yeah, it's six years later, but still people deserve to know answers.

[Rob Carson]

Well, it actually I think is fortuitous because Donald Trump and we went through four years of wandering in the desert and preparing a plan and some amazing things are happening. I want to ask you about, well, people like Brad Ravensburger, supposedly Republicans and I heard that maybe the reason why he has not been so curious and whatnot is because a lot of RINOs, a lot of, you know, traditional Republicans in the state of Georgia are afraid of being called racist or whatever or are they just playing for the wrong team? What do you think?

[Mike Collins]

Well, I really don't try to fish over Raffensburg Cork. I let him speak for himself. But, but I do know that he's out there like I am and I know he's out there because he's running statewide and, and I know that he's got to be getting the same feedback, the same comments that I'm getting. And this isn't like just a one off. It's I guarantee it's everywhere we go. We're going to get one person to talk about the election cycle and how they they still are wondering about some of the incidents happen, especially in Fulton County. And so I know he's getting that and he should be welcoming just like the rest of us. This investigation. I don't know if he is or not. I don't. I have not spoken to him about it.

[Rob Carson]

How you feel about this SAVE Act? I think we need it. And if that didn't work, are you supporter possibility blowing up the filibuster so we can actually make sure we get voter integrity in the country.

[Mike Collins]

You know, I think you're seeing the state, the state, the Senate is moving on that. I noticed Lee picked up a few more co sponsors over there this past week.

[Rob Carson]

Good.

[Mike Collins]

And they are inching further. I mean the Senate's always moved a lot slower it seems like than the House. You figure we passed the same act last spring, spring of 2025.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Mike Collins]

You know, and so we need this now. We need a national voter ID to make sure that here's the funny Thing we're the only country in the world that doesn't require this.

[Rob Carson]

I know. Well, there's a reason for it because our elections are corrupted, man. I mean, look at the. They brought in 20 million illegals across the border, loaded them up with all sorts of government largesse. You know, declared emerging of COVID took $2 trillion and basically looted the treasury to pay off these states and whatnot. And because, let's face it, the Democrat states are losing population. It's a cabal. We've got to fix this voting system. It's not been the reason why Democrats are so out there, you know, now today, like Prabila Jay Paul, we got to get rid of the DHS and the CBP is because they haven't had to win an election on ideas in a very long time.

[Mike Collins]

Yeah, no, they haven't. They haven't. America has woke up as a wake to the fact that these illegals, the whole, the whole reasoning for them coming in, transporting them around the country, setting them up with living and clothes through was to eventually get them into the voting process. For instance, as long as you could get a driver's license and establish some sort of residency. You know, a lot of them are grabbing the ability to vote. And you've got certain states, you got California out there that are willing to let them vote on local elections now. And so it's always been the plan, man.

[Rob Carson]

It's always been the plan.

[Mike Collins]

It has been. So I think that just leads more, puts more fuel on fire for the fact that we've got to have the SAVE act pass.

[Rob Carson]

Amen.

[Mike Collins]

And we need to get it now before this November election comes along. Georgia's done a good bit to fix the problems that we have here in the state of Georgia, but the SAVE act will definitely help make sure that people understand that these, these votes are going to be secure and only legal citizens are voting.

[Rob Carson]

Representative, you are the author of the Lake and Riley Act. I'd like to continue the conversation on the other break, other side of the break, if we can. Can you do that, sir?

[Jim Gosman]

Yeah.

[Mike Collins]

Be glad.

[Rob Carson]

I want to talk about what's happening in, in Minnesota and I, and I think what Donald Trump did up there with Homan and all that was a brilliant chess move. If you could hold on, we would greatly appreciate it. Representative Mike Collins, House representative from the great state of Georgia on the phone. We'll talk the continue the conversation on the other side of the break. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Glenn Beck]

Who does he send? Tom Holmes. Pullman's role is Just really simple. You don't have to like us. Just hand over the criminals. I'm just here to get the criminals.

[Border Security Official]

You already have.

[Glenn Beck]

Just hand them over. And if Minnesota complies, Trump wins quietly. If Minnesota refuses, Trump wins loudly. That's not blinking. That's checkmate positioning.

[Rob Carson]

I said earlier this week, and because I kind of wanted, you know, I think a lot of people wanted to see the violent mob in Minneapolis to get its butt kicked. And we're hoping maybe insurrection act. But turns out Donald Trump was playing 3D chess again and avoided that. And I got to tell you, I knew it. I just, I knew it that day. I was questioning it. I was like, what the what? And then I went, oh. Representative Mike Collins, House Republican from Georgia. What did you think Monday night when this, when this all came down? And instead of insurrection act, instead of troops and all of that, Donald Trump said, we're going to defuse the situation. What are your thoughts?

[Mike Collins]

Well, I think it's just pure leadership. I know, and you're right. President Trump is always three, four moves ahead of. And when you pick out somebody like Tom Holman, because Tom Holman is not your guy that's going to be out there for the photo ops. He's not your guy that's out there politic. He is dead up policy. He is law and order border and couldn't pick. I could think of a better person to send up there to get this thing fixed, make sure that we get these illegal criminals off the streets. And the really unique thing about that, Rob, the Lake and Riley act ties into this so easy because the Lake and Riley act gives local law enforcement the ability to contact ICE when some of these smaller, lesser crimes are being committed, like robbery or carjacking, you know, shoplifting, and get them off the street. But without the Lake and Riley act, they couldn't do that before.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know, why should our brothers in uniform be fighting each other? It's ridiculous what they've done to pit local police against and to leftize the police department in these cities. Ridiculous. How's Georgia doing? How are you guys getting along down there, working with the federal officials?

[Mike Collins]

Here's the thing, Rob. Most people think that, like ICE goes and sets up shop in one place. They're working all across this country.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, sir.

[Mike Collins]

They're not just in Minnesota. As a matter of fact, just to give you a number, Georgia is a top five state for arrest of illegal criminal people that that ICE is picking up. We're in the top five of the states. You don't hear any of that mess going on here. The only place you hear it is in Minnesota. Minnesota is deep blue sanctuary city. Sanctuary people running that state. And it's the same game plan that they've had for decades. They don't want law and order. They want lawlessness and they want chaos and they want mob rule. So that one day you'll wake up so frustrated that you'll throw your hands up and say, please, whatever the heck you're going to do to us, do it. Just leave me alone.

[Rob Carson]

No, I don't think we're ready to do that. I think the American people, you know, and they're trying to make us believe that ICE are Nazis and all that. It is so foul. I like to say that the Democrat Party is doing a death spiral into hell. And they are. They double down on stupid. They haven't Learned anything from 2024. And they literally, they think after four years of us screaming, going, my God, do something about the border. You got Pramila Jayapal saying, oh, let's just defund. Are you out of your mind? I love the fact that they haven't learned. How optimistic are you about the midterms, by the way?

[Mike Collins]

You know, how. What now?

[Rob Carson]

How optimistic are you about the midterms? Because the Democrats haven't learned a damn thing.

[Mike Collins]

You know what? I'm going to tell you something. We, we have the opportunity to pick up seats in the House.

[Tom Homan]

I know we do have the opportunity.

[Mike Collins]

To get a whole lot closer to 60 in the Senate because this economy is already turning.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yes.

[Mike Collins]

And when people begin to feel that money in their back pockets, that more money and with costs coming down, that's the whole key to this thing. That's, you know, that's. The Democrats shut down the government the first time around for two reasons. Number one, they wanted to give illegals health care. But number two, they saw the fact that we were moving so fast that they didn't know any other game plan to try to kill this economy and try to put us on our back heels. It didn't work. Neither one of them worked.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you got a 5.5% GDP in the fourth quarter. Despite it all.

[Mike Collins]

I know we've gotten our preparation bills done. So you're, you're seeing progress in the House and in the Senate with getting our actual work that we're required to do done. You're seeing this economy around on a dime.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, brother.

[Tom Homan]

Excited.

[Rob Carson]

Hey, man, what about that, you know, yesterday, these, these savings accounts for your kids. This is the first step toward reforming the pyramid scheme of Social Security that we have ever seen. That's what Social Security is. I mean, this is. This is game changer.

[Mike Collins]

Oh, big time. And look at how many people in the private sector saying, hey, you know what? But I can get behind this and help and push this with either money or help making sure that people understand what this program is all about. It's a new day in this country. You can feel it. President Trump will go down into history as the best president in my lifetime.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, brother.

[Mike Collins]

People that he has surrounded himself with, the team of people in his cabinet are second to none. And you are seeing. I mean, you are seeing this thing turn around. We'll have this place humming like a sewing machine in six months.

[Rob Carson]

And then you have the 250th anniversary, and they're going to have an MMA fight on the grounds of the. Oh, brother. I want to be there. I said if I'm going to be there. If I have to serve drinks, I will be. I will be there. Hey, by the way, are you in. Are you in Georgia right now? And what did you get that ice down there?

[Mike Collins]

We're in Georgia right now. I'm a little further south than what the weather hit. Thank the good Lord. I mean, I'm saturated. I got real thin blood, man. I can't.

[Rob Carson]

All right, one other question. One other question. I want some honesty here. This is a big deal. Crystal burger or White Castle? Which one?

[Mike Collins]

I grew up on crystal burgers, man.

[Rob Carson]

I drove. I drove back to Kansas City and I drove by the Church of White Castle. It's in Columbus, Ohio. That's where the headquarters. I drove by and I was like. I almost. I felt like I needed to stop and leave an offering.

[Border Security Official]

Yeah, we.

[Mike Collins]

All we had around here was really, was crystal burgers forever.

[Rob Carson]

I know, I know. Oh, hell yeah. You can't just eat one. You gotta eat six. Listen, Mike Collins, I really appreciate your time. I am so optimistic about the future of our country, and I think, I believe it will be the greatest year for freedom, not only in our country, but around the world. I really do. For freedom and for faith. It's gonna be great, man. I appreciate you. You can go to Rep. Mike Collins on Twitter, anywhere else people can follow you, my friend.

[Mike Collins]

That's it. Mike Hollins, GA.com. man, look us up. You know, I'm Senate. I'm gonna take care. One of these Democrat problems we got in the state of Georgia.

[Rob Carson]

I'm.

[Mike Collins]

Let's get John Ossoff packing.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, I love it. I love it. Hey, we got to have you back on. We're here for you with this running run because I want to see Ossoff gone. I want to see him gone. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate you.

[Mike Collins]

Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. There was talk of gold going to $5,600. Newsmax had the story on. On the Newsmax.com website today. Gold advanced to a record high, close to $5,600, announced Thursday as investors sought refuse from escalating geopolitical tensions and weakening economic signals from the united. In the United States. $5,600. I got my. I just got a little message this morning from. From Birch Gold. They said everything's golden. Everything's golden. You got your 401k moved over. And now I can just watch it grow. And look, it grew overnight. It grew overnight. Bing. Like somebody planted some little magic gold beans in my. In my 401k and it just went bing, just like that. There you go. $5,600. Are you kidding me? Unbelievable, right? Let me look at it right now. $5,341. 50. 300. Let's look at silver. Hold on. 53. That's gold's price, guys. Why are you not invested in gold? Why have you $114 for silver? Text my name, Rob, to 989898 for birch gold. Will you do that today, for crying out loud? Because every moment that ticks away, gold becomes less affordable for you. Gold becomes less affordable for you. Get on it. By the way, until Tomorrow, up to $10,000 rebate on qualifying purchases. How much you got? You got money in savings? It's money in savings. What the hell is money in savings? Money in savings does nothing. You might as well bury it in a tin can in your backyard. You need to do it like Shawshank Redemption in a cigar box under an oak tree. That's about the kind of return you're going to get, for crying out loud. $5,600. It could be $6,000. Hell, it could be $7,000 by next year. It could be $8,000. I don't even know. It was $2,600 a year ago December. It's $5,600 now. Text my name, Rob, to Birch gold. Rob did 989-898. For goodness sake. Wow. It's amazing. Donald Trump just did something remarkable. It's never been done in our lifetimes. He has basically made Social Security for your kids obsolete.

[Trump Account Promoter]

Every president in modern history has left our children with nothing but debt. But under this administration, we're going to leave every child with real assets and a shot at financial freedom.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Trump Account Promoter]

We'll ensure that Americans don't just end their lives with a nest egg, but instead, all Americans will begin their lives with a beautiful nest egg.

[Rob Carson]

They're saying if you do, I think it's, you can put up to $5,000 a year in your kid's account and then by the eighth time they're 30 years old, they'll have a million dollars. Can you believe that? Can you believe that? And it's also going to do dramatic things for the stock market, for American business. Here's a little more.

[Trump Account Promoter]

When Trump Accounts officially launch on July 4th of this year, every parent will be able to activate their accounts and access the funds ones at the trump accounts.gov. so it's all set up.

[Tom Homan]

All ready to go.

[Trump Account Promoter]

It's beautiful. The site is beautiful.

[Rob Carson]

It is. It's pretty cool.

[Trump Account Promoter]

On that glorious day, we also expect to have commitments from generous private individuals.

[Rob Carson]

Companies are matching to the whole deal. It's game changer. It's a game changer. We are witnessing history every day. More on that coming up. Also, Alex Pretty not such a great guy, Al, after all. No, no, no, no, no. Believe it or not, not such a great guy after all. All that's coming up next hour on the Rob Carson Show. Don't go anywhere.