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You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide web. This is the Rob Carson show.
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This is the Rob Carson Show. We have much to get to this hour on the radio program. You know that the. The woman who was at Cinnabon who was being. Who yelled at a couple Somalis and said some terrible things and all that. Listen, I don't agree with her language. And she was fired from her job. She was goaded into it. I'll explain why here very shortly. I didn't. I haven't been playing the video. I had something. I had a feeling something was going on. I had to. Oh, look at my computer. Webroot performance issues detected. Junk files. View solution. Look at that. So I got webroot on the. On the computer. There you go. Cool. Save my computer again. Thank you, Webroot.
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Appreciate you. So we got that. That coming up. Also, Erica Kirk yesterday talking about the evil of the left and how.
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Charlie Kirk could have his neck blown open by a Democrat who had been fed the line fascist and Nazi and all that about Charlie Kirk and others and acted out by murdering Charlie Kirk. And the left, of course, celebrated his death. And now they're doing even worse stuff. And I'm. I'm just done with them. Just done with them. If I'm downtown, for instance, if I see National Guard and I see a lot of National Guard here in the D.C. area and I always go up to them and I say, thank you. Thank you. For. If I see a leftist say anything negative about a National Guardsman, I'm gonna get between the Guardsmen and them and we're gonna have a little. A little visit. I'll just put it that way. We're going to have a little visit because I'm done with this nonsense. And this, this hearing today on Capitol Hill with, with Democrats saying that, blaming Donald Trump for bringing the National Guard in for the murder of one National Guardsman and the injury of another by someone brought into the country by Joe Biden, who's a radical jihadi who acted on language of Democrats. I'm just done with you. You are. You. You don't deserve a discussion. You don't deserve to be. To be focused on in any way, shape or form. You are profoundly broken. Profoundly broken. But before that, I got. I got a new song from Jim Gassett because I don't know if you know this, but. But Ilhan Omar apparently married her brother to bring him into the country. And now Tom Homan is going after him. And, And I've got the details about that coming up. But this is Jim Gassett about her marriage.
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Ilhan Omar.
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Her own brother.
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Ew.
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So that he could stay.
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And he.
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Wouldn'T have to leave the usa. Yes. Good idea. How about I marry you? Okay. We're from Somalia. That's cool.
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With her brother, she'd tied the knot.
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A license got.
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In.
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You're kind of hot to avoid being booted out, but I'm your brother.
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It was no doubt.
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It's okay. We're Somalian. A crime.
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Illinois.
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Fraud she has committed.
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But what else is new?
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Nothing she has said about it even. True. True.
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Will Ilhand Omar marry her own sister, too? Yeah. Now that gay marriage is okay, she could marry her sister. Did you realize in. In somalia that that Ancestry.com is a dating site? Did you have any idea that? It's really weird how that happens over there. Rob Schmidt was talking to Tom Holman last night about investigating the marriage of Ilhan Omar to her bro that that's.
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Clearly a deportable offense. Is there an investigation into that?
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You know, I just got advised by fraud investigator the other day on that. I asked the question, who reviewed the file Says no there was immigration fraud involved the statute. You may kiss the bride. I thought you'd never ask. Limitation became an issue in the last four years. I have been waiting my whole life to kiss her since we grew up together. First brought up who was president, who run doj. So pulling the records now. Pulling the files. I saw her at the family reunion and she looked mighty fine. We're looking at but this fraud investigator who I know personally, one of the best fraud investigators in HSI Homeland Security Investigations, said there's no doubt he reviewed the file. So I'm running that down this week, matter of fact and we'll see both boot both of them out of the country. They can have a second honeymoon back in Somalia.
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Oh my God, it's so awesome. Here's Rob Finnerty talking about it.
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We have this rumor that's been out there for years that Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar allegedly reportedly married her brother to get him into the country from Somalia.
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That's the reason, which is a federal crime.
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Now she's denied the rumor, but not really. When the White House Rapid response team posed the question this week asking if she married her brother, she didn't deny it. She answered the question with another question. But don't you think if there was a rumor out there say that you married your brother.
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Yeah.
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You might try and get in front of that one and maybe come out.
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And make it get in front of it. I don't know, maybe behind it perfectly.
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Crystal clear that it's not true that you never married your brother.
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Maybe on top of it, no matter.
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What it took, I would make it clear that I never married my brother. I've got two and we've never been married. So why hasn't she done that?
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Because she married a brother, that's why. Here's Rob Finnerty talking about her enormous wealth she's been able to, to to acquire as a public servant. And, and I'll just go ahead and say it, it's not. It's ill gotten gains.
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And does anyone else think that it's just a little strange? No press conference with her brother denying the rumors, no documentation.
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They might nothing.
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Very odd. It's also very strange that we still have no idea how Ilhan Omar got all that money.
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Where did it come from?
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How did she get all that money? A Somalian refugee in the 90s.
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And that's the American dream.
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2020, her net worth was right around $65,000. Today it's over $30 million. It's also strange that she created a program called Feeding Our Future, which mysteriously was robbed of $250 million by Somalian refugees from Ilhan Omar's district.
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Weird.
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That program lost $250 million and now Ilhan Omar is worth $30 million again. The program lost $250 million and now ilhan is worth 30 million.
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Yeah, and I'm just going to go ahead and say it. She. She got some of that money, obviously. Dear God, are you kidding me? Here's a report from Minnesota.
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The 2025 disclosure, first reported by the Washington Free Beacon, shows that the Minnesota congresswoman and her husband have a net worth between 6 and $30 million, roughly 3,500% increase compared to 2023, the first.
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Day of hell of a year.
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Free Beacon reporting. The couple's financial gains came from her husband's two businesses, a winery in California and a venture capital firm headquartered.
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I think we should go to the winery and see how much wine they're serving. I think they're serving about as much wine as those. Those Feed the Kids restaurants in Minneapolis.
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Zero in Washington D.C. those, I would.
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Imagine, if it's Somalian wine, it's very dry. You like, open the bottle and pour sand in your glass.
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Sets were valued between 5 and $25 million by the end of 2024. In 2023, that number was reportedly less than 1,000. But Omar, a founding squad member, slammed online speculation back in February claiming she was a secret millionaire. Omar saying, quote, since getting elected, there has been a coordinated right wing disinformation campaign claiming all sorts of wild things, including the ridiculous claim I am worth millions of dollars, which is categorically false. Omar went on to say she is working. She is a working mom with student loan debt, trying to raise a family while also maintaining homes in Minneapolis and in Washington DC.
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Yeah, yeah, she probably got a couple other houses too. One might be in the Bahamas. You know, nobody's being fooled by this. I just want her to go to jail and be deported. That's all. That's all ridiculous. Tom Emmer from Minnesota, House Majority Whip, talking about this fraud, fraud and more fraud.
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It seems like every day there is a new discovery of stolen taxpayer dollars in my home state of Minnesota.
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People will have to go to jail, including the ag, possibly the governor who should have already resigned and the mayor of Minneapolis and who is smack dab in the middle of it.
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The self acknowledged liar, incompetent failed governor and failed vice presidential candidate, Tim Walz.
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Tim Roots. But with the world now watching walls.
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Can no longer hide from accountability. I want to thank President Trump and his all star administration.
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Yeah, he went to tenant, tenant, tenant. He went to Seattle and he pled his case to a bunch of sycophantic Democrats who don't want to hold him accountable for billions of dollars disappearing while he was the governor under his nose. And there's no way that the AG and the governor didn't see that this was being taken. But he's all defensive now, this administration. I always have to check myself because.
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He brings out the worst in me.
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Thanksgiving night, I'm minding my own business.
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Playing Yahtzee with my relatives, and I.
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Get a drive by slur from him calling me seriously, the R word. The R word? Yeah, the R word. Yeah, I think you call it the F word. Felon. Thank you very much. I just came up with that. This is Carol 11 in Minneapolis. Lou Raguse talking about what the the federal government's going to do.
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About 10 agency that oversees the Medicaid program is threatening to withhold money from Minnesot programs unless the state addresses widespread fraud. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is run by former TV doctor Oz, who made the announcement. The Minnesota Department of Human Services will now have to give CMS weekly updates on how the state is stopping fraud. Freeze enrollments of all high risk providers for six months. Confirm all providers in place are legitimate or remove them and send cms.
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Cut them off. Cut them all off. Every damn program, every dime of federal money until they they find out who did this. Hold them accountable. That's it. That's that. They're doing that with SNAP benefits now. They got to do it with Medicare and Medicaid, etc. On the way. The Cinnabon worker, Crystal Wilsey, she was fired because she's a racist. But it turns out she was targeted by a couple Somalians. Somalians. Oh my God, you're so racist, Rob. No, I'm not. And then we're gonna have Erica Kirk talking about her husband and how the left want to find his grave so they can defile it. That's how awful the Democrat Party and the left are. That's coming up. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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Come on. Victor Davis Hansen. But everything you said about Tim Waltz is correct. Remember when they had that big Madison Square rally that, gosh, right before the election, it was just pact. And Tim Waltz said, this reminds me of Nuremberg Hitler gathering in the 1930s. That's all he did is traffic and fascist Hitler. And he's talking about hypotheticals that people come by and yell retard I don't know if that's true or not, but I don't know if he's called the police and he says it could lead to violence. Yeah, well, calling Democrat or calling Republicans, fascists, Nazis and white supremacists has resulted in violence. Calling the National Guard, those things has resulted in violence. Tim Waltz is up. Just a putrid little man. Just a putrid little man. He has a love affair with China. He's a creep. He's a. He's a creep. Just a creepy man. Real quick here. I want to share the story. So the cinnamon worker, Crystal Willsey, was shown as a racist and she got fired from her job at Cinnamon, which is, you know, I mean, honestly, this is what you got. You're working at Cinnamon. I mean, you're probably not the happiest person unless you manage or own a Cinnamon. But, you know, just working at a Cinnamon, you're probably not at a great place in your life. Nothing against Cinnamon. God bless Cinnamon. I love me some cinnamon. You know, I don't know what the hell you do to make that smell go throughout the whole mall, but by God, you do it anyway. But anyway, here is a. Here's a little report about that. You with your face.
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Even though we pretend to be five different people, I still know who the f you are. The new video reveals that it was the Cinnabon employees who were the victims and everyone had misunderstood her. In the video, the Somali couple appears to be provoking her on purpose, repeatedly approaching her and even changing outfits to slip back into the store and create a confrontation. In the footage, the Muslim woman identified by viewers stands at the counter in a red jacket, constantly moving toward Crystal Willsey with her phone raised, speaking in a taunting tone. Crystal points at her, stammering in frustration. You've been here before. You changed your outfit just to come bother me again. Her emotions are clearly breaking down, not in attack mode, but more like someone pushed into a corner and reacting defensively. Meanwhile, the Somali couple keeps pressing her, getting closer, filming in her face, step by step. Every move looks like they're waiting for her to make another wrong reaction. So which version is real? The camera never lies, but it never shows everything either.
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Crystal will be I hope that they do a GoFundMe or something for her, because this is what the left does. They. They push you and push you until you react and they take your action and use it against you, you know, so I'm going to lean into believing her. And this is what I thought from the beginning because this is What I'd heard. There you go. So Erica Kirk was out yesterday doing media and what she has endured as a grieving widow of a great man. A great man. They killed Charlie Kirk three months ago. The left killed Charlie Kirk three months ago. And then they, they howled like banshees in hell in joy to the tune that teachers and, and government workers and professors got fired for celebrating his death. Over here in, in Old Town Alexandria is a place called the Torpedo Factory. It is a group of artists, most leftists, a few of them Jewish, who are and conservative, who are terrified of the others. They don't even speak out loud because they're afraid they'll get ruined financially. It's a frickin ridiculous time. It's a ridiculous place. I'm gonna hold these bastards accountable. And this one guy put up a sign in his window. Charlie Kirk was a piece of crap, but he didn't say crap. Here's Erica Kirk yesterday because.
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The left, they're wanting to know where Charlie is buried so they can defile his grave.
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Can I have one thing? Can my children have one thing? Everything was public. We will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband at Turning Point usa. And it will be for the world to see and it will be spectacular and it will have basically museum style for our Charlie, for my Charlie. But can I have one thing? Can my babies have one thing? Where we hold it sacred? Where my husband is laid to rest. Where I don't have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and destroying my husband's grave while my daughter is sitting there praying. One thing. This is my husband. Yes, he was Charlie Kirk to the world. And I know so many people love my husband and I am grateful for that. But this is my husband. And I want to be able to have one thing left that is sacred to our family, to my in laws, to my babies and to my parents. One thing.
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You know, I went to with Tony Kennett to the Heritage foundation and never been there before. And the talk throughout the building every day is who's going to be out front protesting and how dangerous are they?
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That's how bad it is. Homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews, it's about time for us to kick some ass.
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Here is Erica Kirk talking about Candace Owens, who. I mean, honestly, what in the hell is wrong with you woman? She's of course saying that people inside TPSA executed Charlie Kirk. Candace Owens, you are dead to the conservative movement.
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I do not.
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That's violent. No, it's not. You are, you are done you are cooked. You are no longer important. People who listen to you or watch you are fools.
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I have time to address the noise. My silence does not mean that I am complacent. My silence does not mean that somehow Turning Point USA and all of the hand picked staff that loved my husband and my husband loved them is somehow in on it. We are busy building. And you know what I thought? I thought these people are human. We are all grieving in our own way and they are trying to find the answer to something that happened that was so evil. They are trying so hard. And I get that we're doing the same. Anytime we hear a lead or anytime we hear anything, we send it to the authorities. Please dig into this. No rock will be unturned. I want justice for my husband, for myself, for my family, more than anyone else out there. So for me, you want to keep telling me to come down while we're building, I don't have time for that. But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me, call me names, I don't care. Call me what you want, go down that rabbit hole, whatever. But when you go after my family, my Turning Point USA family, my Charlie Kirk show family, when you go after the people that I love and you're making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode, going after the people that I love because somehow they're in on this. No.
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It's bad enough that the left killed her husband and celebrated his death, but some who are supposedly conservative would twist in their twisted mind. I don't know what is going on. Candace Owens is mentally ill. I can only assume she's mentally ill. I can't imagine that she sold her soul so much for the audience and for making money. I could be wrong about that too. It could be a combination of the both. I used to like her show. I used to respect her opinions. Bat guano, man. Bat guano. Coming up. Wilford Riley is the assistant professor of political science at Kentucky State University. He is turning the narrative about American slavery in our evil slave past on its ear. He is a remarkable band and I've been looking forward to this conversation. He joins us on the other side of the break. Don't go anywhere.
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Today, Americans are taught when it comes to slavery, America was the worst.
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The Atlantic slave trade from Africa to the Americas was different from any other type of slavery.
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The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody. We created it.
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American slavery was worse because the slaves.
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Were reduced to property. They were channel property.
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No other system of slavery did that except American slavery. That's complete nonsense. Wilfred Riley is a political science professor and author of Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me. Generational slavery, like if you're the son of a slave, you're a slave. That was extraordinarily common slavery around the world was slavery. Slaves in Africa were kept unfree only for a fixed term. No is the short answer. Most of the slaves taken by these sort of players would be either kept as slaves for their entire life or more likely sold to the whites and the Arabs in two years.
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Yeah. And by the way, 400,000 slaves came from Africa to America, while 12 million came to the Americas. I should say. I discovered that because I saw this great piece with John Stossel and Wilford Riley. And I've been wanting to talk to Wilford Riley for a number of years because he's written some great books and I admire his work. And he joins us on the Newsmax hotline. How are you, sir?
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I'm doing well. Doing well. Thanks for having me.
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Oh, brother, I'm glad to have you on. I used to live in Kentucky, man. I lived in Fort Thomas near Cincinnati. I love me some Kentucky.
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Yeah, it's a great state. I'm from Chicago originally. I'm black and Irish, so I'm from the south side of Chicago and stereotypically. But I moved, I moved to Kentucky and it really is, really is kind of that hard land experience. I live in Frankfurt, the capital.
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Yeah.
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And it's a very pleasant place to live. I mean the scenery is, is lovely, people are great.
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If you like bourbon, it's a hell of a place to live. But if you're an alcoholic, the worst.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean if you've got an active drinking problem, you don't want to live here. I mean it's known for horses and social life. And you're expected to participate in the social life.
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Absolutely. You know, speaking of Chicago and I'd love to float this theory by you, you know, you've got Brandon Johnson and you've got Pritzker and they are both doing everything they can to keep the National Guard from coming into Chicago, which has been a bloodbath since, you know, the Great Society decades of murder, the black on black murder rate 10 times the national average. And I liken it to George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door. They are doing the exact same thing. I think that Democrats in these cities want to keep their black population particularly uneducated.
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Dependent and aggrieved. What are your thoughts on that?
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I think there's a lot of truth to that. I mean if you look at these cities, there's a weird thing in cities like Chicago where you have two populations. You have the young, highly motivated people that are there to participate in Chicago or New York, really the global economy. So Groupon is based in Chicago. The Merck, the Mercantile Exchange for North America is in Chicago. Chicago is smaller than New York, but it's larger than Manhattan, which is what people think of as, as New York. It's I think rated as the ninth city in the world or something like that. So if you're in the north side of Chicago, which is where you're going to go as a tourist, you might see like wild kids on the very fringes of the Mag Mile and so on, but it's like being in Tokyo. Like you're, you're in the place where people go. Then there's the other Chicago which is there's still more than a few Italians, Irishmen, so on and those, those that those groups mostly vote for the Dems as well. But there's a very large black community on the south side that's just. Those people have been in Chicago for 100, 150 years. So have the ethnic whites, the Latinos and there's a strong encouragement that they don't leave. There are a lot of things like rent control that are done in those areas.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, I think part of that deal is like, yeah, you vote for the more than semi corrupt, like ward healing alderman who comes around with turkeys on Thanksgiving.
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Yeah. And you.
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And like, the guy might be a nice guy in some of those ethnic wards, but it's a very, very corrupt deal. And people who don't understand big city politics like Chicago, Boston, New York, keep asking, like, how do they elect those idiots? Like, how did big Brandon Johnson from the teachers union ever get elected dog catcher? And you actually, you could sit down with someone over at Kentucky Bourbon and explain that system and say, well, you've got to understand, you know, 8% of the population votes in the, in the primary elections in these cities. The young professionals kind of know it's sort not their place to. I don't know how honest a lot of these elections are, but, you know, whatever happens, you. You get who you get.
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Well, Chicago is known for its crooked elections. Dear God, it's a punchline. It's been that way forever. I've been on the planet long enough to know this. I spent a lot of time in Chicago, by the way. That was the first place that I ever flew in an airplane. I was 21 years old. I flew into a radio conference and I stayed across from the Merc and, you know, and Chicago deep dish was my favorite until I went to Manhattan and had a slice. And then I was like, oh, boy.
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It's a famous competition, people. New Yorkers will describe Chicago pizzas like a casserole. Like, what are you guys doing? Loaf of bread. I mean, that's just one of those, like, healthy things cities bicker about. But yeah, like pizzeria, Uno pizzeria. Do all those. All those are still, all still going. They're very healthy.
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Yeah. And I'll just explain because I'm a cook, too. Chicago pizza crust is a hybrid. Pizza crust and pie crust. It is. If you make it, it's got a lot of butter in it and everything. And you put the cheese on the bottom. That's the thing about that. So enough about that. I want to ask you this because I'm curious. And you've written these great books, Wilford Riley, about, you know, what's going on. You know, you've got a new book imagined Toward a Brotherhood of Men, which I want to get to in the next segment, if you can hold for the next segment. Okay. But you know, they talk about. The Democrat Party, talks about Reparations And I contend that they will never get reparations. And the reason why they won't. They know it's not realistic, but they want to tell people of color that they're on the side of paying them for all of they've gone through, making them victims. We've had 30 years now of convincing people of color they are victims in our society and they win when it doesn't pass. They can blame the Republican Party as racist for not giving them reparations. That's why they're never going to happen. That's why the Democrat Party uses reparations to separate us. What do you think?
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Yeah, I think there's a lot of strategic analysis there. That's basically correct. I don't think reparations are going to happen for a lot of practical reasons.
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One, there's that too.
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Yeah. Well, one of them is that the minorities in the United States are primarily non black. So because of mass immigration recently, the country is 18% Hispanic. And the people that are most opposed to reparations are people that say, well, technically I'm ethnic. You know, I might be Caucasian, but I'm Latino. And I experience more prejudice from blacks or from whites today than. Than a black guy experiences prejudice. I'm just got here from Texas, Mexico, so I'm not, I'm not voting for this. So I don't really see who the constituency for reparations is supposed to be. I mean, you've got more than 50% support among blacks, barely in a lot of states. Yeah, but you don't have any support among whites. And now you have less than zero support among Asians. So this is just a dream. It's trotted out one thing about the Democrats. If they ever get below 70% of, say, the black female vote, it's over for the party.
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I know it is. So you know, it's.
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You've got to keep. You've got to keep making these crazy promises.
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I know. That's exactly what I contend. Can you hold through the next break, my friend? I would appreciate it. Can you?
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Absolutely, yeah.
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Oh, excellent. Wilford Riley, assistant professor of political science at Kentucky State University. Yeah, we got a guy who kind of. Are you officially a conservative? Do you call yourself a conservative or are you this common sense guy?
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Yeah, no, I'm a conservative. I'd say.
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I know. Hold on.
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I'm on the right.
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Shock of shocks, a university professor of poli sci that's a conservative will continue.
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On the other side of the break. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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American blacks are at a disadvantage. They have less capital, financial and educational capital.
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What's the harm in pointing out how.
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Abusive white people were? The harm is that pointing out how abusive white people were is not going to get black Americans any more capital. Most of the problems of the modern black community don't have anything to do do with historical ethnic conflict. 160 years ago, the Great Society asked.
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Not how much but how good. I have been contending for years that the Great Society destroyed, nuked the black nuclear family. Wilfred Riley is the assistant professor of political sciences at Kentucky State University and he's got this new book, Imagine Toward a Brotherhood of Man. Yeah, I, like I said, I've been saying this about the welfare state and you obviously agree with that. Tell me your thoughts on what the Democrat Party did.
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Yeah, I mean, I've written a couple things, including lies my liberal teacher told me. And so the welfare state, I think that this is one of the big debates between the left and the right, as it happens. So like the argument on the political left wing is that all problems in the black community come from historical racism. Basically this is the legacy of slavery, so on. And I think it's. It's pretty obvious when you look empirically at the numbers that that's not true. So when you look at illegitimacy, bluntly, fatherlessness in the black community, this would also be true for working class whites and for Mexican Americans, so on. But when you look at that, I mean, in Walter Williams, great Walter Williams points out in 1938, before World War II, that was about 11, 12%. It was 4% for Caucasians. Today it's 70%. There's no plausible way to peg that.
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On.
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Social, the historical legacies of conflict with white people or something like that. The Great Society. I'm sure almost all of your audience knows this, but that's Lyndon Baines Johnson, John F. Kennedy. That's welfare programs. The enhancement of the things we already had. Social adc.
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Adc. You get more money the more children you have and the father cannot be in the house.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, I think that idea that pay per child welfare is, is something that sounds charitable, but like there's a very old line in economic books like if you, if you pay out money for every young cat someone has, it breeds kittens. This literally was a program AFDC when I was a kid where you had one more child you received in Illinois. It was about $700 per month. And you had people who were just basically on the dole for years. I mean, this is the Reagan half joked about welfare queens. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich got together to cut this one program. The flip side though is we got about 20 more welfare programs now, which is the argument over WIC and SNAP and EBT and all this other stuff.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I always found it quite ironic that, you know, they're reliably in black neighborhoods that are named after civil rights leaders. There's a Planned Parenthood, so there's that too. When you got 70% abortion rate, my God, what have the, has the inner city community fallen for that? You know, having no father and then considering the baby a burden and killing the baby before birth. Those are the main principles that guide a lot of the destruction of the inner city community.
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Yeah, I think that's true. And it's interesting also living in Kentucky, because without excuses, inner city doesn't in probably 2/3 of the states just mean black.
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Yeah, I know.
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This is, this is a genuinely big problem. And I mean, I think a lot of, there are a lot of things that people are very reluctant to talk about. So right now we have this whole debate about the fertility rate, quote, unquote, like in a lot of civilized countries, the rate of fertility, which is the number of children born per year, against the number of two person couples in society. The fertility rate in the USA and the upper middle class is like 1.6. And people keep asking why this is like, is this feminism? Is this pornography? Like, and that's not helping. But the key reason is that there's one abortion. This is everybody, this is an African American community per like 1.5 babies born. So at a certain point, if you are killing to some real extent, one in two or one in three children, you're not going to have a breeding population. This is, this is true. Animals that eat their young, it's definitely true for humans.
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Yeah.
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And another problem, of course would be that men are proposed one on the guy's side. Men are proposing marriage at an average age of 32 now.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You're not going to be able to have kids.
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And by the way, I am not trying to pin this on the black community. I grew up white trash. I, my, my brother and sister, my sister and my, my stepbrother lived in a trailer having a romantic relationship on our property. Okay? So don't, don't act like I'm trying to pin this all on the black people.
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A lot of great people that live in trailers, you know, for time.
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I know, I just had to flash my white trash cred. There.
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These are real problems.
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I mean, this is.
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J.D. vance wrote Hillbilly Elegy, and people tried to kind of whitewash this out of existence because it's a very sympathetic discussion of, like, the multiracial lower class. And now people are trying to say, well, you know, Vance is a murderous Republican. I mean, it's the same thing that happened with Trump, right, where Trump was hosting Comedy Central Roasts until 2016. And then all of a sudden, you know, they had to. They had to put several horns on him.
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Well, Wilford Riley, I. I appreciate your time today. You've Got Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me, which is a great book. And then a new one, Imagine Toward a Brotherhood of man, which I can only assume is about coming together. I like to say Hillbillies, Homeboys and Hebrews. That's the title of my book coming out in the spring. Hillbillies, Homeboys, and Hebrews. How we Came Together to Save America. My generation, Generation X. We, you know, Uhura and Kirk had made out 10 years earlier. We didn't think twice about race. And then all of a sudden, they made it with George Floyd. It was 1968 all over again. So we're not as far apart as we. As we seem to be.
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Absolutely, definitely agree with that. Thanks for having me on.
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All right, brother. Thank you very much. And I'd love to have you on again soon, perhaps when we get the studio up and rolling here in D.C. have an extended podcast at least an hour with you, because I'd love to pick your brain. You're fascinating, and I appreciate your time today. Sounds good.
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Sounds good. Thank you for yours. Have a good.
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Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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I want to have Wilford Riley back on. He's fascinating, guys. Lies. My liberal teacher told me. I just, I got that. There was a piece that he did with John Stossel that was really cool, and I'm really glad I got him on. Apropos nothing. It just was a fascinating conversation. A lot of politicians like Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson didn't call. Benny Johnson is such an ass. He. He is trending on Twitter because he. He said that the murder of a National Guard soldier and the injury of Another in Washington, D.C. was an accident. He said it was an accident, a tragic accident. And he is. He's getting his rear end handed to him. What a bizarre and sickening thing to say. And the Democrat Party are making fools of themselves on Capitol Hill, grilling Kristi Noem. Kristi Noem is having Their rear ends for lunch. She's gonna have to floss when she gets done with these fools. Anyway. For every $5,000 of gold you purchase from Birch Gold, I should say invest in gold. They're gonna give you an ounce of silver. Silver and gold. Just in time for the. For the holiday, the Christmas holiday and Hanukkah. If you give gifts on Hanukkah. How about that? How about one of the gifts be an ounce of silver from Birch Gold? You're going to invest the money anyway, right? Right now. Price of gold today, $4200. A couple weeks ago was 4000. If you had 10 ounces of gold, you would have made two grand. What did your 401k do the last three weeks? Nothing. There you go. What'd your crypto do? I don't know. I don't have any crypto. Okay, well, neither do I. So, anyway, right now, like I said, if you just get in touch with Birch Gold, all you gotta do is text my name, Rob, to 989898. That's how easy it is. Text my name, Rob, to 989-898 and you can get the ball rolling. Get eligible, get information about investing in gold. And if your 401k or IRA are not performing well or you got some cash or you want it to grow because savings ain't going to pay you. D word for Richard. Just text my name, Rob, to 989898. From Birch Gold, here is.
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Christy Doem being visited, questioned by Representative Sri Thanadar. And he says that you need to be fired. Whatever. And she said, I look at you asking me to resign as an endorsement because you're such a fool.
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Competence and your inability to truthfully carry.
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Out your duties of Secretary of Homeland Security.
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If you're not fired, will you resign?
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Sir, I will consider.
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You're asking me to resign as an endorsement of my work.
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There you go. Because the Democrat Party hates that. Christine OM is doing a really, really great job. As the. Here is Benny Johnson with his. Benny Thompson, not Benny Johnson with his comments about the National Guard murder in Washington dc. What you did.
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Madam Secretary, you and the gentleman from CT NCTC reference the unfortunate accident. Wow. That occurred with the National Guardsman being killed.
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You think that was an unfortunate accident?
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I mean, it was a terrible. Wait, wait, look, I'll get. Listen to him trying to walk it back. Get it straight, then you can.
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He shot our National Guardsman in the head.
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Look, Ms. Chairman, will you direct witness to allow me to ask my question? Yeah, I want to ask my question. It was an unfortunate situation. Unbelievable. Yeah, he's getting his rear end handed for to him today and he should because he is a damn disgrace. There you go. A damn disgrace. He doesn't even deserve coal. And Democrats wouldn't want coke. It's fossil fuel, you know, whatever kind of. Coming up, we got another hour of the show. Eight in 10 households headed by Somali refugees on welfare in Minnesota. Oh, yeah, they're productive Americans in Minnesota. More on the scandal there, among other things in the final hour of the radio program. Also, Emily Sturge, campus reform. Ooh, it's going to be good. Don't go anywhere.
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