The Rob Carson Show – "Inside the Anti-Free Speech Machine"
Episode Date: October 7, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Notable Guest: Justine Brooke Murray (Media Research Center)
Episode Overview
In this incisive, often humorous episode, Rob Carson dives deep into government overreach, free speech suppression, media bias, and cultural conflicts defining American political discourse. Centering on recent revelations of government surveillance on Republican lawmakers and conservative figures, the episode critiques what Carson calls the "Sovietization" of America. The second half features a compelling interview with Justine Brooke Murray, who discusses her work exposing media double standards and her on-the-ground perspective from Israel post-October 7th, 2023.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Anniversary of October 7th – Framing the Stakes
- (01:17) Rob opens by connecting the anniversary of the October 7 Hamas attack to a broader “battle between good and evil,” expressing unwavering support for defeating Hamas and confronting Iran’s leadership.
- Quote: “We are the reaction to the action of evil. And evil is still fighting, clawing and trying to drag us into hell with it.” — Rob Carson (01:35)
2. Allegations of Soviet-Style Surveillance & Government Abuse
- (02:00–12:44) Carson passionately discusses newly uncovered evidence that, under Special Counsel Jack Smith, the Biden administration tracked private communications of nearly 10 Republican senators and a representative—a “Soviet-style” crackdown, as he calls it.
- Key Points:
- Names lawmakers surveilled, tying it to attempts to “cover up the stolen election of 2020.”
- Asserts these activities represent “the Sovietization of the United States… by Barack Obama.”
- Quote: “We became the Soviet Union under Joseph Biden… These were Marxists and communists who moved in and used the strings of government...” — Rob Carson (02:16)
- Plays and analyzes audio from lawmakers and experts (Sen. Hagerty, Maria Bartiromo, Devin Nunes, Tom Fenton, John Solomon) discussing both political investigations and media collusion.
- Explores “Arctic Frost” operation: a dragnet targeting conservatives.
- Quote: “They had a man and they were looking for a crime. Wasn't that Stalin who did that? Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.” — Rob Carson (10:29)
- Key Points:
3. Social Media Censorship & the "Anti-Free Speech Machine"
- (09:19ff) Details how the FBI worked with Twitter to surveil Trump’s followers and how the government dubbed dissent “disinformation.”
- Quote: “The FBI’s chief counsel left in 2018, left the FBI and went to Twitter. And then, of course, we all know that Elon Musk bought Twitter and saved free speech...” — Rob Carson (09:19)
- Discusses the broader chilling effect: millions of Americans’ social media records swept up (with Tom Fenton and John Solomon providing supporting commentary).
4. Media, Comedy, and Parody as Resistance
- (38:45–41:00) Rob reflects on his comedic roots, parody as political weapon, and his background with Rush Limbaugh.
- Shares a new parody song lampooning Chicago politician Brandon Johnson.
- Quote: “This is the same comedy I did for Rush Limbaugh... And his legacy continues on this here radio program...” — Rob Carson (39:58)
5. Urban Crime, Governance, and the Threat of 'Civil War'
- (16:55–20:15; 38:00–39:40) A segment centered on Trump’s critiques of Democrat-run cities (like Portland and Chicago), suggestions of invoking the Insurrection Act, and claims of local officials fomenting unrest.
- Donald Trump (16:55): “You take a look at what's been going on in Portland. It's been going on for a long time. That's insurrection... those places are burning down.”
- Analysis with Victor Davis Hanson: framing actions of Democrat leaders as “nullificationists,” drawing historical parallels to the Civil War era.
- Quote: “When you start to say that you're going to carve out sanctuary areas where the federal government does not have the right to protect... These they're nullificationists and they're very dangerous.” — Victor Davis Hanson (19:45)
6. Interview with Justine Brooke Murray — Media Bias, Campus Censorship, and Post-October 7th Realities
Origins and Motivations
- (23:33–30:31) Murray shares her experiences being censored as a conservative in college and discusses her current work at the Media Research Center.
- Quote: “The media has been dominated by the left for years. And I go after particularly wokeness and the dominance over institutions, not just the media, but with the media cheering it on.” — Justine Murray (24:10)
Strategies for Resistance
- On her research process: “We have a newsbusters team... every day they study the leftist hypocrisies. In fact, we have a guy who's dedicated just to studying The View every day... needs like five weeks of vacation a year.” — Justine Murray (27:07)
- Explains the essential role of humor in fighting censorship.
- Quote: “The best thing to do is to use humor to open up the doors to freedom of speech... That's the best coping mechanism.” — Justine Murray (29:24)
- Rob echoes: “Comedy... was like the underground railroad of speech.” (30:31)
On Visiting Israel After October 7
- (31:10–35:05) Murray recounts visiting a kibbutz hit by Hamas: haunting details of the scene and the juxtaposition with pro-Hamas protests in the US.
- Quote: “You could still see evidence of Hamas's crimes... bloodstains everywhere, bullet holes everywhere.” — Justine Murray (32:15)
- Describes the shock at US leftists cheering the October 7 attacks, calling it a “psyop meant to cover up the deeds of Hamas.”
- She and Rob agree that October 7 exposed widespread anti-Semitism and has become a catalyst for necessary confrontation with evil.
The Growing Threat of Political Violence and Media Complicity
- Murray calls out mainstream media personalities and influencers who minimize or celebrate political violence, including recent attacks/murders and biased coverage.
- Quote: “So they're promoting this idea that basically it's... okay to be unalived if you're deemed an existential threat. And it went from... just having the wrong opinions, to now... if you're a Jew or if you're a Christian or if you're white... they actually believe that they have the moral obligation to want you dead.” — Justine Murray (36:00)
- Stresses the urgent need for unity among centrists, but warns against naivete about those who embrace or condone violence.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 01:35 | Rob Carson | “We are the reaction to the action of evil. And evil is still fighting, clawing and trying to drag us into hell with it.” | | 02:16 | Rob Carson | “We became the Soviet Union under Joseph Biden… These were Marxists and communists who moved in and used the strings of government...” | | 10:29 | Rob Carson | “They had a man and they were looking for a crime. Wasn't that Stalin who did that? Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.” | | 16:55 | Donald Trump | “You take a look at what's been going on in Portland... That's insurrection. I mean, that's pure insurrection.” | | 19:45 | Victor D. Hanson | “They're nullificationists and they're very dangerous.” | | 24:10 | Justine Brooke Murray | “The media has been dominated by the left for years. And I go after particularly wokeness and the dominance over institutions…” | | 29:24 | Justine Brooke Murray | “The best thing to do is to use humor to open up the doors to freedom of speech and allow ourselves to make fun of each other and make fun of ourselves. That's the best coping mechanism.” | | 32:15 | Justine Brooke Murray | “You could still see evidence of Hamas's crimes... bloodstains everywhere, bullet holes everywhere.” | | 36:00 | Justine Brooke Murray | "[The left] actually believe that they have the moral obligation to want you dead." | | 39:58 | Rob Carson | “This is the same comedy I did for Rush Limbaugh... And his legacy continues on this here radio program...” |
Memorable Moments & Segment Timestamps
- [01:17] – Show open: October 7 and “a millennial battle between good and evil”
- [02:00–12:44] – Deep dive into government surveillance: “Sovietization” narrative, Arctic Frost, guest expert analysis
- [16:55] – Donald Trump on crime in Democrat-run cities
- [19:05] – Victor Davis Hanson: danger of "nullification" and historical parallels
- [23:33–37:52] – Justine Brooke Murray segment (media, free speech, Israel, anti-Semitism)
- [39:00] – Parody segment from Jim Gossett: lampooning Chicago mayor and political response to crime
Tone & Language
Rob Carson blends urgency, satire, and righteous anger, using vivid language and wry humor—a style echoed by guest Justine Murray, who employs sharp wit and directness in discussing media and campus hypocrisy. The episode is briskly paced, with passionate, unfiltered exchanges, pointed criticism of left-leaning figures, and a focus on storytelling that highlights emotional as well as political stakes.
Final Thoughts
This episode of “The Rob Carson Show” delivers a forceful indictment of political and media establishments, warning of creeping authoritarianism, and urging listeners to fight censorship with humor, unity, and vigilance. Through guest commentary, personal anecdotes, and parody, Carson draws a connecting line from governmental overreach to media bias and cultural conflict, issuing a call to action—and to laughter—against the “Anti-Free Speech Machine.”