Jelly Roll Saves the Grammys

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show: "Jelly Roll Saves the Grammys"

Date: February 2, 2026
Podcast: The Rob Carson Show (Newsmax Radio)
Episode Theme: A satirical yet fiery breakdown of the 2026 Grammy Awards, virtue signaling in pop culture, political commentary, and a deep-dive interview on current national security, immigration, and global politics.

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Overview

On this episode, Rob Carson blends humor and pointed political critique to analyze the latest Grammy Awards, calling out celebrity virtue signaling and the event’s perceived disconnect with everyday Americans. The standout moment, according to Carson, is country star Jelly Roll’s heartfelt speech, which he frames as a breath of authenticity amid what he sees as Hollywood hypocrisy.

The show transitions from Grammy commentary to sharp perspectives on immigration, alleged government corruption, and the state of the Democratic Party. The second half brings an in-depth interview with Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer, who discusses issues of election integrity, foreign influence, and potential reckonings for figures implicated in the "Russiagate" controversy.

Carson's style is irreverent, occasionally abrasive, and always intensely partisan—combining parody, personal anecdotes, and listener engagement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Grammy Awards Recap & Cultural Satire

• Disdain for Hollywood Elite
  Carson launches into a withering summary of the Grammys, mocking many of the stars and their political statements.

  • Targets include Billie Eilish, Bad Bunny, Ketanji Brown Jackson, and Trevor Noah.

• Virtue Signaling Criticism
  Carson criticizes stars for "virtue signaling" on issues like immigration and social justice while enjoying immense privilege.

  • [02:37] "You live in a $14 million mansion on stolen land. Would you invite any illegals to come and live in you and your fourteen million dollar mansion? Of course not." — Rob Carson

• Generational Disconnect
  Lampooning statements from artists like Olivia Dean, Carson belittles what he calls naive takes on immigration and history.

  • [03:53] "Yeah, yippee skippy. I'm the grandson of an immigrant. What the hell? Really? Who gives a crap?" — Rob Carson

• Boycott of Super Bowl
  Carson proclaims his disengagement from the NFL and Super Bowl due to perceived politicization.

• Trevor Noah & Media Critique
  Skewering Grammy host Trevor Noah, Carson riffs on declining award show ratings and perceived left-wing bias in media.

• Jelly Roll’s Speech: A Ray of Authenticity
  Carson highlights country singer Jelly Roll’s acceptance speech as an outlier—marked by gratitude, humility, and faith.

  • [09:55–10:58]
    "First of all, Jesus, I hear you. And I'm listening, Lord. ... There was a moment in my life that all I had was a bible this big and a radio the same size and a 6 by 8 foot cell. ... Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party. Jesus is not owned by no music label. Jesus is Jesus. And anybody can have a relationship with him. I love you, Lord." — Jelly Roll

  • Carson on Jelly Roll:
    [10:58] "He just destroyed everything else that was said at that miserable award ceremony last night." — Rob Carson

Political & Demographic Shifts

• Population & Political Trends
  Carson and guests review trends in population migration from blue to red states, attributing this to failed Democratic policies.

  • [14:28] "People are leaving Democrat states because they're crap holes. That's why they're leaving Maryland..." — Rob Carson

• Democratic Party & Immigration
  David Sacks explains how illegal immigrants affect congressional apportionment and why Democrats support sanctuary policies.

  • [12:56] "Illegal immigrants are a vital part of their power base... Illegal aliens count towards the census... blue states are expected to lose nine House seats and electoral votes because of the changing population numbers." — David Sacks

• Protests and Social Unrest
  South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem discusses organized, well-funded protests and the challenge of protecting law enforcement.

  • [15:21] "We see a very organized, well funded campaign of violent protests against our law enforcement officers..." — Kristi Noem
  • [16:12] "We stopped so many dangerous people from perpetuating violence and have gotten those terrorist threats and criminals out of our country before they had the chance to do something that would have devastated families." — Kristi Noem

Deep-Dive: Government Corruption & National Security (Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer Interview)

• Russiagate, Brennan, and Comey
  Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer lays out evidence tying Obama-era officials to the Russia collusion probe "hoax."

  • [19:14–20:54] "John Brennan and Jim, James Comey, both together, along with Susan Rice, were able to construct this complete fiction... To me, this needs to be a full court press to put John. John Brennan, James Comey, and Susan Rice in prison." — Tony Schaefer

• Failures of Government Accountability
  Carson and Schaefer discuss why prior investigations (Mueller, Durham, Barr) failed to impose real consequences.

  • [21:32] "They were all in on the collusion for purposes of trying to protect the bureaucracy, to protect the institutions, not to get to justice... They were there to clear it up, clean it up, hide it, and make it go away..." — Tony Schaefer

• Trump Team: Internal Sabotage
  Schaefer explains how even pro-Trump insiders blocked information from reaching the President.

  • [24:39] "Our own side, to a certain level, was involved in this, and that's what we have to fix as well." — Tony Schaefer

• Future Accountability and Election Probes
  Schaefer hints at imminent moves by Trump to revisit election fraud and foreign influence—specifically referencing Venezuela and Maduro.

  • [25:36] "One of the things he's talked about and we're seeing it right now, is going back and relooking the 2020 fraud and cheating... you'll see a lot more on that over the next few weeks." — Tony Schaefer

Foreign Policy Rapid-Fire

• Iran Negotiations
  Schaefer is optimistic the threat of military force is curtailing bad behavior by Iran without direct action.

  • [28:50] "I don't believe in torture, but I do believe that the threat of torture can be used very effectively because it's always the threat that's often more effective than the use." — Tony Schaefer

• Venezuela and Cuba
  The discussion turns to the possible fall of the Maduro regime and optimism about real democratic elections returning to Venezuela and, one day, a free Cuba.

  • [32:26] "It'll become the jewel of the Caribbean. People will all want to be going down there. It'll be amazing." — Tony Schaefer

• Domestic Turmoil and Summer Forecast
  Carson and Schaefer warn of increased unrest ahead of the 2026 elections—citing organized protests and the need for vigilance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Celebrity Activism:

  • "Virtue signal and you think it gives you a level of importance that otherwise you would not have because you're not very important." — Rob Carson [02:37]

• On American Identity:

  • "We are all sons and daughters of immigrants. ... But these idiots at the Grammys act like ... people only started immigrating now." — Rob Carson [02:30–03:53]

• On the Grammy Awards:

  • "The Grammy awards are the worst. Virtually unwatchable. Yeah. Agreed, agreed, agreed." — Donald Trump (read by Rob Carson) [07:19]

• On Accountability:

  • "This is republic ending stuff. People have to go to jail for this." — Rob Carson [20:54]
  • "There has to be a full court press to put John Brennan, James Comey, and Susan Rice in prison." — Tony Schaefer [19:14]

• On Jelly Roll’s Speech:

  • "Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party. Jesus is not owned by no music label. ... I love you, Lord." — Jelly Roll [10:27]

• On Cuba’s Future:

  • "It'll become the jewel of the Caribbean. People will all want to be going down there. It'll be amazing." — Tony Schaefer [32:26]
  • "I won't have to pay $50 for fake Cuban cigars in Mexico anymore." — Rob Carson [32:35]

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Important Timestamps

• Grammys Rant & Virtue Signaling: [00:50–06:00]
• Jelly Roll’s Full Acceptance Speech: [09:38–10:58]
• Pop. Trends & David Sacks on Apportionment: [12:56–13:43]
• Democratic Party Migration Crisis/Noem Interview: [15:21–16:31]
• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer Interview (collusion, accountability, Trump team sabotage): [18:44–25:27]
• Predicting 2026 Political Fallout, foreign policy: [25:54–32:35]

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Tone & Style

• Bold, satirical, and unapologetically conservative.
• Combines sharp political critique with pop culture skewering.
• Uses humor, hyperbole, and direct appeals to audience for impact.
• Blends news, analysis, and personal storytelling.

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Conclusion

This Rob Carson Show episode is a fast-paced, combative, and humor-tinged political commentary—using the Grammy Awards as a springboard for broader criticisms of media, celebrity activism, and Democratic leadership. The interview with Tony Schaefer provides a window into MAGA-world perspectives on deep-state allegations, election integrity, and the future of U.S. foreign policy. Despite the partisan bravado, the episode’s emotional high point is country singer Jelly Roll’s sincere Grammy acceptance—an example, for Carson, of the cultural authenticity he feels America sorely needs.

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Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Co-host or Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Guest or Caller]

Now.

[Announcer or Producer]

You are about to hear the most.

[Rob Carson]

Interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world Wide web.

[Announcer or Producer]

This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

This is hour number three of the Rob Carson Show. And we've got a ton of stuff to get to. A little bit on the Grammys. I gotta spend a lot of time on the Grammys. Cause, you know, screw the Grammys and screw the idiots and the crowd. Ketanji Brown Jackson was there. She was up for a Grammy. She, she read a book. It was like the first book she ever read. And so she was up for a Grammy for reading. That woman is so dumb. She couldn't read a coffee table book. That's how dumb Ketanji Brown Jackson is. She didn't win last night because it was the first book she read. And, and she was up for a Grammy for it. So there is that. And we're gonna get to a little bit of that. And as far as the super bowl this weekend, I'm not gonna watch it. I'm not encouraging you to. I'm not, as I mentioned earlier, I'm not in the position to demand anything. I'm not, you know, I'm not willing to say, oh yeah, I'm influential enough to get everybody to stop watching the Super Bowl. I don't care if you watch the Super Bowl. I'm not gonna watch the Super Bowl. I'm done with it. And bad Bunny last night, this jackass, you know, he hates America. He rips on America. And of course, they're all about ice out. Ice out in their train seals in the audience. They're trained seals. They would never at the Grammys. They would never want illegal stain at their house. But my God, like for instance, Billie Eilish, she's a, you know, a singer, you know, brilliant, brilliant. She and her brother like the, the Carpenters, but, you know, insane and so it's like Karen and Richard Carpenter, but insane. And here's Billie Eilish Virtue signaling after winning a Grammy. I think she won for best song, whatever. And, and, and she said that we're on stolen land.

[Announcer or Producer]

No one is illegal on St.

[Rob Carson]

You live in a $14 million mansion on stolen land. Would you, would you invite any, any illegals to come and live in you and your fourteen million dollar mansion? Of course not. Because you Virtue signal and you think. And it gives you a level of importance that otherwise you would not have because you're not very important. Here is Olivia Dean. And this is. Here's what happens when you have young people who are ignorant of history. We are all sons and daughters of immigrants. We are all sons and daughters of immigrants. My biological family, the Goetz family, they were, they were the German. They came from Germany after the turn of the last century. They tilled fields, worked their asses off to feed the rest of the country. And then there are other. The Pauli family. They're all, I'm son. I'm a son of immigrants. We are. Most of us are sons of immigrants. All sons of immigrants. Every one of us. They're all, you know, a lot of us came here that the Mayflower. We're immigrants, okay? We've always been immigrants. But these idiots at the Grammys act like, oh, you know, people only started immigrating. Now listen to this moron. Olivia Dean. Yes. I want to say I'm up here as a granddaughter of an immigrant.

[Guest or Caller]

I wouldn't be.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yippee skippy. I'm the grandson of an immigrant. What the hell? Really? Who gives a crap? Yeah. We just discovered immigration. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Virtue signal. Yeah. I'm a product of bravery and I think those people deserve to be. You certainly are brave getting up there and saying that you're the granddaughter of immigrants. And I'll bet you everybody in this, everybody who's listening right now is probably the granddaughter or grandson of immigrants or great, great grandson liberated. We're ignorant. We don't know anything, but all of a sudden we think we're cool here is a bad bunny. This moron, he won best artist or whatever and he's going to be at the super bowl, which I'm not, because he's halftime entertainment and Green Day is open in the super bowl and, and for some reason the NFL thinks they need to virtue single and say, end racism in the, in the, in the field. You know, the, the end zone and all that. I'm not watching it. I don't give a fly and rip about either team. And. And it's a damn shame that the NFL has done this, so I'm just not going to watch it. Here is Bad Bunny. Before I say thanks to God, listen to the. The seals. The trained Seals in the audience go nuts. Okay, gona. And by the way, this will be the lowest rated Grammys ever, by the way. You're going to find this out very soon. I'm going to say eyes out. There you go. That's your bumper sticker.

Yay.

Well, I'm out of the super bowl because you're going to be doing a halftime show. I'm done, man. I'm done. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Then of course, there was, let's see, Trevor Noah. Trevor Noah. Nobody watches Trevor Noah. I don't even think he has a job. He doesn't have a full time job anymore. He's working me. He was at Comedy Central forever. And because Nicki Minaj bravely was not one of the trained seals, she came to the White House to celebrate these wonderful savings accounts for children that when they're 30 years old, they can have hundreds of thousands of dollars. Unlike Social Security, which is a giant pyramid scheme, she had the audacity to. To support savings accounts for children. And here's this Jack Weed making fun of her because she wasn't there.

[Guest or Caller]

Legend Billy Eilish.

[Announcer or Producer]

Phineas. Nicki Minaj is not here. She is not here.

[Rob Carson]

She is. Everybody loved Nicki Minaj. Everybody loved Elon Musk. Everybody loved Donald Trump before they were conservative.

[Announcer or Producer]

She is still at the White House with Donald Trump discussing very important issues.

[Rob Carson]

Actually, Nikki, I have the biggest ass. I have it.

[Co-host or Guest]

Everybody's saying it, Nikki.

[Rob Carson]

This is, this is what the elites do. You know, they stand inside the castle walls, they say, let them eat cake. Then eventually they get their rear ends handed to them. And that's what we're going to do. Yeah, in the, in the midterms for sure. For sure. Donald Trump said he's going to sue this. This Jack. We Trevor Noah over this comment.

[Announcer or Producer]

Song of the year. Congratulations, Billie Eilish.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Announcer or Producer]

That is a Grammy that every artist wants. Almost as much as Trump wants Greenland. Which makes sense. I mean, because Epstein's island is gone, he needs a new one to hang out with Bill Clinton, so. Oh, I told you it's my last year. What are you going to do about it?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah. Here's what Donald Trump said about that Jack Weed. The Grammy awards are the worst. Virtually unwatchable yeah. Agreed, agreed, agreed. Almost as bad as Trevor Noah. As bad as Jimmy Kimmel at low ratings Academy Awards. Noah said incorrectly about me. Donald Trump and Bill Clinton spent time on Epstein Island. Never been to Epstein Island. And until tonight's false and defamatory statement, have never been accused of being there, not even by the fake news media. Noah, total loser. Better get his facts straight and get them straight fast. It looks like I'll be sending my lawyers to sue this poor, pathetic, talentless dope of an emcee and suing him for plenty of money. Good. Go for it, man. Go for it. See, this is what happens when you stand inside the castle walls and you say stupid crap like that. Oh, and here he is talking about Ketanji Brown Jackson, who didn't win a Grammy even though she read a book for the very first time and was up for a Grammy. I gotta move my computer. She was up for a Grammy. She didn't win. Here he is talking about her.

[Announcer or Producer]

I just want to say congratulations, by.

[Rob Carson]

The way, she's a Supreme Court justice. She did a standing ovation when they said ice out. She needs to be out of the Supreme Court.

[Announcer or Producer]

This is a special one to first time Grammy nominee who's in the house here. Suprem court justice Katanji Brown Jackson.

[Co-host or Guest]

That's right.

[Rob Carson]

She was so dumb she couldn't read a coffee table book.

[Announcer or Producer]

Was nominated in the audiobook.

[Rob Carson]

Picture, picture, picture. Another picture category.

[Announcer or Producer]

And with her being here, you know what that means. For the first time ever, if you lose a Grammy, you can appeal directly to the Supreme Court.

[Rob Carson]

See, listen, I love music, okay? I really do. You know that. I love music. I just hate these people. I really do. They're just. Hate is such a strong word, really. I'm a white supremacist according to them, so I don't think they're too crazy about me. So there you go. Then there was Jelly Roll. Now he does a song called Hard Fought Hallelujah and it is a beautiful song and he does a live version of it. And I start my day most days with it. There's listen to it, you'll understand. Here he is, odd man out at the Grammys, thanking God for what he has.

[Guest or Caller]

I know they're gonna try to kick me off here, so just let me try to get this out, you know.

[Rob Carson]

I'm gonna play the longer version of it here, let me find it on jelly Roll. I got a better, I got a better quality sound here. One Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll. Here it is. Yeah, here's Jelly roll.

[Guest or Caller]

I know they're gonna try to kick me off here, so just let me try to get this out. First of all, Jesus, I hear you. And I'm listening, Lord. I am listening, Lord.

[Rob Carson]

Woo. Ice out. Woo.

[Guest or Caller]

Second of all, I want to thank my beautiful wife. I would have never changed my life without you. I'd ended up dead or in jail. I'd have killed myself if it wasn't for you. And Jesus, I thank you for that. I thank you for my label. Broken Bow Country Radio, baby. What's up, dog? Oh, Republic. John Manely. We did it, baby. There was a time in my life, y', all, that I was. I was broken. That's why I wrote this album. I didn't think I had a chance, y'.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

All.

[Guest or Caller]

There was days that I thought the darkest things. I was a horrible human. There was a moment in my life that all I had was a bible this big and a radio the same size and a 6 by 8 foot cell. And I believed that those two things could change my life. I believed that music had the power to change my life and God had the power to change my life. And I want to tell y' all right now, Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party. Jesus is not owned by no music label. Jesus is Jesus. And anybody can have a relationship with him. I love you, Lord.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. And what did he do there? He just destroyed everything else that was said at that miserable award ceremony last night. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. 18% of the entire country's home health care billing is coming out of Los Angeles County. Okay? Eighteen percent. There's one doctor who is billing $120 million a year. One doctor is billing $120 million A year. Okay? And it's all about hospice. Listen to this. Here we go. We'll try it again.

[News Reporter or Correspondent]

Dr. Billed the government $120 million in a single year, claiming to oversee 1900 patients. With almost 2000 hospice agencies, L.A. county has more than 36 states combined and 30 times more than either Florida or New York.

[Co-host or Guest]

18% of the whole country's home health care billing is coming out of Los Angeles County. How is that possible?

[News Reporter or Correspondent]

And take a look at this map. A cluster of 287 hospice providers in a two mile radius. Some in strip malls, unmarked buildings, even a wrecking yard and vacant lot.

[Rob Carson]

All right, before my microphone crapped out on me, I was sharing how we've been screwed. We've been completely screwed over, and people are gonna have to go to jail for this. David Sacks was talking about this weekend and David Sacks has an answer for why the Democrat Party wants illegals.

[David Sacks]

The Democrats want to thwart mass deportations because illegal immigrants are a vital part of their power base. And you can see this in the 2030 apportionment forecast which just came out. Illegal aliens count towards the census which occurs every decade. And the census determines the apportionment of congressional seats and electoral votes. And what you see in these maps is that citizens of blue states have been migrating to red states because those blue states are failing. As a result of that, blue states are expected to lose nine House seats and electoral votes because of the changing population numbers. Illegal aliens in blue states have been propping up those numbers. And so, for example, in the last election, President Trump would have won an additional nine electoral votes if we had an accurate counting.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, this is why they're freaking out. This is why they're willing to burn the country down. That's what they want to do this summer. They want to burn the country to the ground. More bad news here is Harry Intern talking about what's happening in Democrat states today.

[Co-host or Guest]

I wanted to take a look at some long term population trends that really should set off a flashing red siren to Democrats nationwide while bringing a big smile to the faces of Republicans nationwide. Why do I say that? Because take a look at the big population gainers versus the last census back in 2020. According to the latest population estimates that take into account the population mid-2025. Look at this. The biggest population growth this decade. All five of the states states that Donald Trump. Donald John Trump won. Donald John Trump won in 2024.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, because people are leaving Democrat states because they're crap holes. That's why they're leaving Maryland. Maryland lost 2.3 million people. They out migrated because Maryland has become such a crap hole. And I'm sorry to say that my anchor station is WCBM in Baltimore. And I know you guys who listen to me there are sick and damn tired of it and they're trying to do the same thing to the state of Virginia with this bet guano crazy woman who is the governor now, who lied about what she was to get elected and now is completely turning the state upside down and ruling as a communist. So there's that. This is why the left is going so insane and willing to burn down the country. This is Kristi Noem. This weekend she's the DHS secretary. The left wants her fired because she's doing a great job. You see, I Think it's kind of sexist. And here she is talking about these organized protests around the country.

[Kristi Noem]

We learn from every situation that we're in. We see a very organized, well funded campaign of violent protests against our law enforcement officers. And so we're going to continue to get as much information as soon as possible to give a strategy to protect people, protect our federal buildings like the president laid out.

[Rob Carson]

Here she is talking about the chaos and the investigations that are coming in those situations.

[Kristi Noem]

There was chaos on the ground. You're relying on information and facts that you're getting from the ground. And the president and this administration has been incredibly transparent with the American people. And so when those reports are given, you give as much information as you possibly can. And we.

[Rob Carson]

This is what I mean when I say the Democrat Party is in a death spiral to hell. Dying like movie vampires, trying to drag us as they kick and scream, drag us into hell with them. That's what they're trying to do.

[Kristi Noem]

Continue to go through with the FBI, leading on these investigations to get to the bottom of this situation. We stopped so many dangerous people from perpetuating violence and have gotten those terrorist threats and criminals out of our country before they had the chance to do something that would have devastated families.

[News Reporter or Correspondent]

That's certainly true.

[Rob Carson]

But do you still believe that Alex Preddy is a domestic terrorist? She did not say that in that interview. But this is why the Democrat Party is going insane. They are losing the voters that they brought in when Joe Biden opened the southern border. The fraud is being exposed. So not only did they face the. The loss of elections, but also many of them, the loss of their freedom as their process. They're desperate. They're willing to let the country burn. They want to burn the country and they're stoking the fire. But we're not going to let that happen, are we? Kaitlyn Bennett joins us next. Don't go anywhere. Let me share Brian's story from Alabama. He tells us about Relief Factor. Trying it for just three weeks. At least 90% of my pain was gone. My pain had started to limit me at work and at home. And I'm amazed at the relief I've gotten. Those are Brian's own words. And they speak volumes about what Relief Factor can do. I've seen that kind of transformation myself and hearing Brian's experience just reinforces why I'm so passionate about sharing this with you all. Don't wait. If you're dealing with daily pain, launch your three week quick start and see what Relief Factor can do for you call 800 for relief. That's 800 for relief. Or go to relieffactor.com. that's relieffactor.com. how will it feel to be out of pain? It is a Rob Carson show on a Monday. It's Crowdhog Day, by the way. It's Groundhog Day, punks. And Tiny Phil saw his shadow. Six more weeks of winter. Really? I think last year he didn't see his shadow. There were six more weeks away. I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I misinformed you. I was told earlier that Caitlin Minna was gonna be on the show, but things changed. And now we have Tony Shaver, Lieutenant Colonel, Project Sentinel, and the 2020 Trump campaign National Security Advisor. Colonel, so good to see you, my friend. Saw you all over the TV this weekend. How are you?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Good. Doing well, Rob. And by the way, John Brennan saw a shadow, and that means he's being indicted in six weeks.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, buddy, I gotta tell you, what do you think about Brennan? We found out last week Tulsi Gabbard, I believe it was Gabbard, said that they now know that the Russia collusion hoax went all the way up to Barack Obama and John Brennan. This sounds like it's getting all sorts of serious for them, right?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, I believe so. There's ample evidence. I think it was seven January, there was a memo from Susan Rice, the National Security Advisor, which basically acknowledged it kind of in her own guilty tick, you know, that she. The memo said, we did everything by the book, which obviously we know was the opposite. So John Brennan and Jim, Jim, Jim, James. James Comey, Jim Comey, both together, along with Susan Rice, were able to construct this complete fiction that never actually was real. And I think that's what we're now focused on. I think that the James Comey thing has to be revisited as well, because this is not simply about false official statements. This is actually using official positions of authority to manufacture information, to go after Mike Flynn, to do things which were completely inappropriate and illegal as far as I'm concerned, regarding President Trump. I mean, you know, there was then, of course, those people around President Trump who were then caught up in the Russia collusion thing. Obviously, several folks that, you know, that have been talked about over the years, they actually had significant legal expenses to defend themselves as well. So to me, this needs to be a full court press to put John. John Brennan, James Comey, and Susan Rice in prison. By the way, Susan Rice has been not even talked about hardly. And I think that's another name that needs to be reintroduced to the public lexicon of accountability.

[Rob Carson]

I gotta tell you, I. There are days that I feel like I'm living a nightmare. Like we mentioned Groundhog Day. Look at how massive this is. Look at what they did. Tony Schaefer. Look what they did. It is unprecedented in American history. What they did to weaponize every department of our government, every intelligence department, to try to take down Donald Trump and go after American citizens. Tony Schaefer. This is republic ending stuff. People have to be. People have to go to jail for this.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Oh, I agree. And I think this is where some of the folks that President Trump had brought in to fix things didn't really want to fix things. And I'm going to bring up Bill Barr. You know, he took the Mueller report and he kind of said, ah, there's nothing here. You know, there was the John Durham testimony, looking back on that. They knew. Bill Barr, Durham, they all knew the same information we now know. As a matter of fact, they were given all of this as a predicate to do something to fix it, and they didn't. And I believe at this point that they were all in on the collusion for purposes of trying to protect the bureaucracy, to protect the institutions, not to get to justice. And I think that's what their job was, to get in there and say, yeah, people made mistakes, but nothing to see here. They were there to clear it up, clean it up, hide it, and make it go away, presuming that President Trump would never be reelected. And I think this is where President Trump has to be smarter than the average bear to say, we're not going to sit back and allow these guys to escape. Because that's. Even people on our own side were trying to do that. And that's something that cannot be accepted.

[Rob Carson]

We waited through six years of this nonsense, waiting for the day, waiting for the day there would be accountability. They started saying it's retribution because they were terrified and they need to have be justly terrified for what they've done. And you know what else, Tony? I was talking earlier to Blaine Holt. What a powerful combination. My God in heaven, I couldn't ask for a better Monday to nine up than you two guys. But all of these things are connected. You've got the Democrat Party. You're a cold warrior. You know how corrupt the Soviet Union was. I used to say that we're going to discover that America is as corrupt as the Soviet Union, but with $7 trillion. They never dreamed of having that kind of money. We're worse than that. We're every bit as bad, maybe worse than the Soviet Union as far as corruption and graft.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. And that's my issues. And even our own side. This is where I go back to speaking about. Yeah, look, John Brennan and Jim, they're evil because they're evil, but then there's people on our own side. And again, you know, to your point, as the national security adviser of the Trump 2020 campaign, I was trying to get to the president to brief him on the fact that we had found evidence that James Comey and all those guys, Mueller and all that the FBI, had never come around, even when Comey. That Christopher Wray was just as bad. And because of our side, the Chief of staff at the time was John Kelly. Even after I got clearance from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, and clearance from the FBI director, Mike Pompeo, I still couldn't get to see the President because they were isolating Trump from the reality of what was going on. That's our side. So we had to keep the president.

[Rob Carson]

Were they doing it to keep the president ignorant so he didn't know the attacks were going on? Is that why they did it?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Of course. And that's what I'm saying. Our own side, to a certain level, was involved in this, and that's what we have to fix as well.

[Rob Carson]

I swear to God. Did they ever put the heavy on you to shut up?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, they isolated me, I'll say that. The fact is that even though I was the national Security advisor to the campaign, you had enough people like the chief of staff and others trying to keep me from talking to Trump because, you know, they just, they were. And I talked to President Trump about this. It's like, look, I told him what happened, and he said this. That was not unique. And that's my point, Rob. My experience is not unique. There was others who were trying to get to the president to let him know what was going on. And yet our own side was. I thought, that cannot happen. That should never happen. And yet it did. And I. We have to make sure that gets fixed.

[Rob Carson]

You still have the presidents here. I mean, you, you, you still are involved. What is he, what is he telling you about that? What is he telling you about accountability for these bastards?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, that's part of what's coming up. I have to be a little bit careful because I know there's some things coming. He's telegraphed. So one of the things he's talked about and we're seeing it right now, is going back and relooking the 2020 fraud and cheating. I think that's going to be one of the main things he basically delves into. And you'll see a lot more on that over the next few weeks.

[Rob Carson]

Is that related to Maduro? Blaine Holt, maybe. He said that might have been related to Maduro.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

When we went into Venezuela, Rob, we didn't go in just to get Maduro. Just saying. That's why there you go down there at the warehouse.

[Rob Carson]

So malign influence. Malign foreign influence on the election. Yeah. Wow. This is big. On the other side of the break, I want to get your thoughts on Iran, on Cuba as well, because this is going to be. There's a lot of balls in the air. More balls than I've ever seen in the air, thank you very much. More balls than in a Don Lemon birthday party. Anyway, that's call coming up with Tony Schaefer on the other side of the break. This is the Rob Carter Carson Show. More with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer in one moment. Price of gold was 5500 a little over a week ago. It's 4690. You're freaking out. Oh, no, no. You shouldn't be. You should be thrilled because you, you, you, you had to buy if you're gonna buy in. Last week was fifty five hundred dollars. You're gonna buy in this week. You're saving 18, 800 an ounce. Silver was a dollar one hundred and thirteen. It's 79.92. You're freaking out. No, it's a buyer's market. People sold. There was one day last week, price of gold went up $500 in one day. That triggered people to say I'm selling. And they did. And they did and they cashed in. What does that mean? More market, more and more gold on the market for you to buy. And now you're getting the price break. An unexpected price break. Is the world a less chaotic place? No. Are the central banks not buying gold anymore? No, they're buying gold. Maybe you should. This is the opportunity you've been waiting for. For the first time. Like very, very rarely do I make the right financial decision. I'll just tell you that. But I decided last week I was going to cash in this 401k that was just lying there and make it gold and go with birch gold. And look what happened. The price of gold went down and I bought it at a bargain basement price and I'm going to sit on it. And those of you who did not sell when it was $500 higher or $800 higher. You're going to sit on it and wait for that meteoric rise to happen again. Birch Gold is who I believe in. Birch Gold is. Is who I trust. They have my money. They should have yours. Text my name, Rob, to 989-898. Now get in. While price. The price of gold is low, it's still dramatically higher. It's still 46.90. It was 2690 a year ago. But if you want to get in, I do it now. Text Rob to 989-898. Rob to 989898. Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaver. I was talking again to Blaine Holt earlier about Iran and how we've got this flotilla getting real close and how he doesn't believe that we're going to have to do much to get the Ayatollah to say, I think I'm out of here. What do you think?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

I think the indications from the Iranian officials comments are clear that there's a negotiation going on, that President Trump is getting through to them. And, yeah, I think the threat of military force, to me, this is one of those great ironies. So someone who's had to do interrogations, Rob, I think you can, you know, kind of understand the irony. So I don't believe in torture, but I do believe that the threat of torture can be used very effectively because it's always the threat that's often more effective than the use. So I think this sword hanging over their head has really got their attention. It's freaking them out. And the other thing to remember is that none of the conditions that actually created the uprising, that is the record low currency, the lack of goods for the merchant class to sell, the lack of potable water because they made bad the choices regarding crops, it takes all the water. And of course, their country being essentially a pariah state, those things haven't changed. So I think President Trump has literally said, look, there's some things we need to have access to. We need access to the nuclear program. We need the idea of free elections to be something you put forth. So, yeah, I think that the.

[Rob Carson]

So as part of this negotiations, he's basically saying, the Ayatollah, you're done. That has to be a part of it. He cannot stay in power. Is that, do you suppose, that's part of the negotiation? You're done. It's just a matter of how we get you out.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

The theocracy has to be done. Yes. The mullahs, the irgc. Remember, up until the Trump administration, Iran was the largest Nation sponsor of terrorism on the planet. The only reasons that's changed because Trump defunded them and then he neutered them. And at this point, the economy sponsor failing because of actual enforcement of sanctions, which Biden wasn't doing. And, of course, plane loads of billions of dollars, which both Biden and Obama did, also prop them. So after you stop funding the mullahs, I think there's a pretty good chance that they're, you know, we can get them out without having to fire a shot.

[Rob Carson]

Good. That would be brilliant. That would be absolutely beautiful. New US Envoy arrives in Venezuela after reopening the embassy after seven years. That's kind of a big deal. Of course, this also cascades into Cuba. Let's start with Venezuela. What's going to happen?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, I think you're going to see probably open elections. One of the things that we did know is that, you know, and I've had friends who were there during the previous election, the fake election. So it was literally a communist nation that was using the facade of democracy to maintain power and control. So Chavez before Maduro was doing this. I think we're going to see elections happen where the opposition will probably win and take over and it'll become an actual democracy.

[Rob Carson]

Cuba's down to its last five weeks of gas.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

What's going to. What. How quickly is this going to fall? And what's going to happen, do you suppose they're going to be a whole lot of expats going back to Cuba and rebuilding that island?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. I'd be buying the port facilities in Key west right now to be the.

[Rob Carson]

I hope so. I hope so, brother. I really, brother, More than anything in the world, I swear to God, you and I have lived our entire lives seeing Cuba as a prison colony.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. Yeah. Literally.

[Rob Carson]

My God, can you imagine the. Can you imagine the possibilities of that island and its people when they're free?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

It'll be glorious. And that's a wonderful, beautiful place. And it'll become the jewel of the Caribbean. People will all want to be going down there. It'll be amazing.

[Rob Carson]

And I won't have to pay $50 for fake Cuban cigars in Mexico anymore. I hope so, brother. I. You know, we see all these violent, nonsensical, you know, protests around our country to bought and paid for. I'm hoping that they get to the root cause of that and go after Neville Singham and George Soros and in this bullcrap. Because it's only going to get worse this summer, right?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yep. Yep.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

President Trump has to say on top of all this stuff, there's so many things going on, it's hard to track. But he's got, you know, and I don't know if everybody, anybody except him knows what his master plan is. But the bottom line is things are happening. He's stirring things up for the right reasons. And I think there's a good chance that you're going to see a lot more favorable chances. And by the way, I think the economy is going to be cooking in about two months. It's good now, but it's going to be wonderful in about two months.

[Rob Carson]

I agree. You know, think about the people on Social Security. They got the largest Social Security increase in the history of Social Security by not taxing it.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rob Carson]

It's going to mean so much money for people who just scrape by on Social Security. I'm not going to say it's going to be much better, but it's going to be better. It's certainly going to be better. Tony Schaefer, thank you for being on the show today. I really appreciate you. Where can people find all your glorious work online?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

So just check me out on X Spooky and then of course, Colonel TonyShafer.com thanks for having me, Rob. I always enjoy our conversation.

[Rob Carson]

All right. Let's take a break and come back. This is the ROB Carson show. Oh, it is. ROB CARSON show. Today has been, you know, I think we've had a really good show. It has been a little, I got a lot of stuff going on. I had to move the whole studio around and, and it's like, it's like, I don't know, trying on shoes with, with rocks in your shoes. That's what it feels like right now because everything's in a different place and all of this and I'm getting so I appreciate your patience today. We had a microphone problem earlier, but, but look at the, our numbers. Our streaming numbers are gigantic today. And I want to mention Dan Bongino's back on Rumble. That's going to be really good for Rumble and Rumble. They have been attacking Rumble so much. They have been attacking Newsmax so much. But we're going to emerge victorious. These jack weeds in New York want to get Newsmax out of taxicabs because they can't stand that people are watching little 1 minute news updates in New York taxi cabs. Well, screw you. Screw you. I would encourage you to support NewsMax. Get a Newsmax plus membership if you would, you know, download the Newsmax app because they're very important. Bongino's important. Rumble's important. I consider Bongino on Rumble, again, to be a lead into my show. He's on 10 to noon. I'm on from noon to 3. So you can easily pivot from what he does, which is a completely different show than what I do, obviously. And then come over here and join me. This week is just. This weekend was just a very trying weekend. I was right this morning, setting up lights, and I. I'm just so glad I have you here. I'm. I'm so glad you're here with me. And you don't know what it means. There are days where you kind of wonder if God's giving you more than you can handle. It's real, real close the last couple days, real close. But I know you're there with me. And I'm here for you. I'm here for you. This is why I'm here in the heart of the swamp. We're here together. We're here together, if you didn't hear earlier. Also, on top of everything else, I go on a date, and I'm at a sushi place. Marvelous sushi place, by the way. And my date is having some sake, and there's a little container with sake, and. And there's a little container with soy sauce. And I thought I'd be debonair. Instead, I'm deboner. And I filled her glass with soy sauce by accident and then spilled it. Yeah, I know. That's me. So on top of everything else, my first date in a very long time, then I look like a moron. So there you go. That's my life. But things are great, and you're here, and we're here, and we are going to win this year, and it's going to be the greatest year in American history. It is. And we're going to experience it together. How's that sound? I think it sounds pretty darn good. So check out the podcast if you get a sec. Just go to your usual podcast platforms. Look up Rob Carson's show. There's a lot of good stuff on the show today. Both Tony Schaefer and Blaine Holt. Exceptional. Ooh. You got to listen to both those interviews. If you missed one second of them, specifically, Blaine was. New information. It's gonna make you feel so good about accountability. God bless you. America has founded Donald Trump and this. This presidency as he's under attack. Pray for him. God bless him. God bless you. And until tomorrow, which is Tuesday, don't catch the stupid. I love you guys. I'll talk to you soon.