The Rob Carson Show
Episode Title: John Bolton in Deep Trouble? Espionage Act Bombshell Rocks D.C.
Date: October 20, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax)
Notable Guests/Commentators: Doug Burns (Former Federal Prosecutor), Mike Davis (Article 3 Project), various callers & commentators
Overview
In this episode, Rob Carson delivers his signature blend of political commentary, humor, and parody in a wide-ranging discussion of current events. The centerpiece is the explosive federal indictment of John Bolton under the Espionage Act—an event that sends shockwaves through Washington, D.C. Carson and his expert guests break down the legal and political ramifications for Bolton and others, while also examining topics like anti-Trump protests, U.S. manufacturing wins, and the growing backlash against political weaponization of federal agencies.
Main Themes & Structure
- Technical Difficulties & The Value of Talk Radio
- Reaction to "No Kings" Anti-Trump Protests
- America’s Winning Streak: Manufacturing, Travel, and Tariffs
- Media & Celebrity Critiques: De Niro & Political Elites
- Protests, Encounter Stories & Social Commentary
- Antifa, ICE Threats, and Law Enforcement Response
- Main Segment: John Bolton’s Espionage Indictment
- Extended Legal & Political Ramifications (Adam Schiff, Letitia James, Jack Smith, etc.)
- Outlook: DOJ Weaponization Fallout
- Brief Policy Debates (Shutdown, Medicaid) & Closing Notes
Detailed Summary
1. Technical Difficulties & The Value of Talk Radio
[01:21]
- Rob opens by joking about stream outages giving new life to traditional radio:
“Now you're seeing why radio's still relevant... talk radio is real and connective and the most local thing you can have.”
[03:00]
2. Reaction to "No Kings" Anti-Trump Protests
[03:25]
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Plays and riffs on viral social media critiques of anti-Trump “No Kings” protests, highlighting their perceived contradictions:
“You’ll sit there sipping on a seven dollar latte… while you type on a thousand dollar MacBook with a sticker about smashing capitalism…” – Damani Felder clip [03:30]
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Rob’s fiery response:
“But you crybaby little B words who can't stand that Donald Trump won... You cheered every one of those damn things. You wanted him dead. Well, suck it, you lost. And guess who's on our side? God.” [04:10]
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Mocks protestors’ costumes/antics and describes his direct encounter with mask-wearing protesters.
“You guys look like morons. Donald Trump isn’t a king... You’re wearing a mask, for God’s sake. Is there another COVID epidemic or are you just stupid?” [12:52]
3. America’s Winning Streak: Manufacturing, Travel, and Tariffs
[05:07]
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Rob sarcastically recounts America’s global appeal under Trump, mocking the narrative of “totalitarian kingdom.”
“Do you realize Donald Trump has made the United States into such a totalitarian kingdom that it's the number one destination in the world?” [05:08]
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Celebrates domestic AI chip production:
“This last week was a historic week. We manufactured the most advanced AI chips in the world... here in America for the first time.” [05:45]
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Comments on pharmaceutical reshoring, tying it to tariffs and economic patriotism, with color commentary and jokes about made-in-America shifts:
“We're making drugs here, not just meth in trailer parks in Arkansas. No, we're making real drugs.” [07:31]
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Financial commentator adds:
"They're all coming back, chips. I put big tariffs on chips unless they're made here..." [07:40]
4. Media & Celebrity Critiques: De Niro & Political Elites
[10:29]
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Rob lampoons Robert De Niro’s anti-Trump rhetoric:
“He can't say anything he wants ... He talked about Donald Trump being a Nazi and Goebbels... He's such a moron.” [10:33-11:21]
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De Niro’s message to “flyover country” is derided:
"Wow, he certainly sounds like he's familiar with flyover country and the people who bought his stupid movie tickets." [11:46]
5. Protests, Encounter Stories & Social Commentary
[12:52]
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Rob shares a personal anecdote about attempting reasoned conversation with protesters and bonding with cigar lounge patrons—highlighting racial/political diversity and referencing Malcolm X’s warnings about “white liberal enemies.”
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Observes online “chant scripts” for protesters, mocking lack of originality:
“She had a list of chants, and she was going, 'Hey, hey, ho, Donald Trump has got to go...' It was laughable.” [12:52]
6. Antifa, ICE Threats, and Law Enforcement
[15:00–18:00]
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Details threats against ICE from viral TikTok videos and cartel bounties; quotes DHS’s fierce warning:
“If you threaten to lay hands on our law enforcement officers, we will hunt you down and we will find you.” [17:30]
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Warns violent activists:
“You fools are repeating history. But you're not going to be long for this earth… You're going down.” [18:03]
7. Main Segment: John Bolton’s Espionage Indictment
[22:06–27:23]
a) Legal Exposé with Mike Davis
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Mike Davis (Article 3 Project) lays out the gravity:
“This is a very serious indictment... John Bolton... knows what he's doing is clearly a violation of the Espionage Act... He sent classified documents, highly classified documents via email... There are 18 felony counts... Very, very damaging stuff.” [22:16]
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On consequences:
“If these allegations are true, which they appear to be true, then he's going to go to prison probably for the rest of his life.” – Mike Davis [23:22]
b) Legal Breakdown with Doug Burns (Former Federal Prosecutor)
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Burns summarizes the indictment:
“He used and stored classified information, top secret, highly classified, on an AOL email. That's totally unauthorized under federal law... The worst part: he was hacked.” [24:23]
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Explains dual liability: improper storage and actual compromise.
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On the political hypocrisy:
“There he was… pontificating angrily about the horrific conduct of Donald Trump… Meanwhile, he's a graduate of Yale Law School… Mr. Bolton, there are two huge distinctions… the Presidential Records Act, and that a president has the legal authority to declassify.” [26:05]
"People who live in glass houses should not throw stones." – Doug Burns [27:19]
8. Widening Fallout: Adam Schiff, Lawfare, and DOJ Weaponization
[27:23–34:09]
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New whistleblower claims threaten Adam Schiff—alleged leaking of classified info for political reasons.
“Schiff said the group would leak classified information... and that the material will be used to indict President Trump.” [27:23]
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Burns:
"They never, ever, ever in a million years thought that Trump would be able to withstand the fake onslaught of lawfare and get reelected. And now he's paying the price.” [29:19]
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Rob links to similar tactics abroad (Bolsonaro in Brazil); alleges deep conspiracy and intent to take down Trump at all costs.
9. DOJ & Blue City Chaos: Letitia James, Jack Smith & More
[34:09–38:42]
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On National Guard & law enforcement in cities:
"It's probably going to be the identical playbook... a liberal-leaning judge will issue a short term injunction... he [Trump] will prevail down the road on appeal." – Doug Burns [33:18]
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Letitia James faces expanding legal trouble—with hints at new mortgage-related charges.
“I think there's going to be a bleep storm nationally in Washington, D.C. with regard to those who weaponized the DOJ.” – Rob Carson [36:05]
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Burns names possible future indictments:
"Schiff, Brennan, Clapper, Smith... I would not be surprised... if all four... are indicted." [36:50]
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Rob & Burns discuss crumbling narratives and the backlash against governmental "weaponization."
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On Jack Smith (special counsel) facing potential disbarment:
“Pretty good. Better than half, Rob.” – Doug Burns on chances [38:42]
10. Brief Policy Debates (Shutdown, Medicaid, Trump vs Dems)
[39:02–40:03]
- Quick exchanges on the government shutdown, with soundbites and Rob’s irreverent blame game humor.
Notable Quotes by Timestamp
| Time | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------------|-------------------------------------------------| | 04:10 | Rob Carson | “But you crybaby little B words… Well, suck it, you lost. And guess who's on our side? God. Thank you very much.” | | 05:08 | Rob Carson | “Do you realize Donald Trump has made the United States into such a totalitarian kingdom that it's the number one destination in the world?” | | 12:52 | Rob Carson | “You guys look like morons. Donald Trump isn’t a king... You’re wearing a mask, for God’s sake. Is there another COVID epidemic or are you just stupid?” | | 22:16 | Mike Davis | "This is a very serious indictment... John Bolton... knows what he's doing is clearly a violation of the Espionage Act..." | | 23:22 | Mike Davis | "If these allegations are true... he's going to go to prison probably for the rest of his life." | | 27:19 | Doug Burns | "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones." | | 29:19 | Doug Burns | “They never, ever, ever in a million years thought that Trump would be able to withstand the fake onslaught of lawfare and get reelected. And now he's paying the price.” | | 36:50 | Doug Burns | "Schiff, Brennan, Clapper, Smith... I would not be surprised... if all four... are indicted." |
Conclusion & Tone
Rob Carson maintains a lively, confrontational, and frequently sarcastic tone, using humor and parody as a vehicle for right-leaning, populist political analysis. The main thread is the shocking legal jeopardy facing John Bolton and, by implication, other political elites accused of hypocrisy or malfeasance. His regular guests provide substantive legal insights, while Rob’s monologues and anecdotes keep the pace rapid and irreverent.
For First-Time Listeners
If you haven’t caught the show, this episode is a whirlwind tour through the culture wars, legal bombshells, and inside-the-beltway drama currently shaking D.C. Rob Carson makes complex legal affairs accessible—and entertaining—by mixing expert analysis with biting mockery of the political establishment on both sides.
Quick Reference: Key Segments by Timestamp
- [03:25] — No Kings protests lampooned
- [05:08] — America’s global “winning”
- [10:29] — De Niro and media elite satire
- [12:52] — Protester encounter story
- [17:30] — DHS “FAFO” warning to anti-ICE threats
- [22:06] — John Bolton Espionage indictment deep dive
- [27:23] — Adam Schiff/DOJ weaponization fallout
- [33:18] — Trump’s federal law enforcement efforts in blue cities
- [36:05] — Letitia James legal peril
- [36:50] — Possible future indictments (Schiff, Brennan, etc.)
- [38:42] — Jack Smith disbarment discussion