Karen-apolis Rising: The Battle for Minnesota

Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Karen-apolis Rising: The Battle for Minnesota
Date: January 13, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (with Co-host/Commentary and guest Luke Ball, Political Strategist)
Podcast: Newsmax / The Rob Carson Show

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Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show takes a provocative and humorous look at recent political and social events in Minneapolis, focusing on the “Karen-apolis” phenomenon: the rise of liberal activism—particularly that of white, progressive women (“Karens”)—and its perceived impacts on Minnesota’s culture, law enforcement, and political landscape. The show also expands its lens to national and global politics, including commentary on law enforcement, immigration, the role of radical activism, and the U.S. approach to foreign policy challenges in Iran and Venezuela. Rob is joined by political strategist Luke Ball for insight and lively debate.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The “Karen-apolis” Phenomenon: Liberal Activism in Minnesota

Main Theme:

• Rob Carson uses satire to discuss the outsized influence of liberal, progressive women in Minneapolis, whom he refers to as “Karens”—a cultural reference to entitled or self-important white women, seen as enforcing social and political norms.

Highlights:

• Rob critiques this group as “white, fat, liberal women” and “bat guano, crazy cat ladies” alongside “emasculated men.” He frames their activism as “manic,” “mentally ill,” or subject to “social contagion.”
• He references Malcolm X’s warning to Black Americans about the “white liberal” and draws a direct line:

  “White liberal women are freaking nuts. Malcolm X warned black people about white liberals… the greatest threat to us is the white liberal. And the white liberal Karen combines being a liberal with also being an insane mentally ill person.” — Rob Carson [04:26]

• The idea that a lack of traditional family or motherhood roles causes these women to misplace their “motherly, unwarranted empathy” onto criminal aliens and radical causes:

  “If you are a woman, you’re still created by God with a motherly, unwarranted empathy… It’s just when you don’t have children, that instinct moves somewhere else.” — Benny Johnson audio, as paraphrased by Rob Carson [08:16-08:52]

Memorable Moment:

• Rob and his team create a parody song about “crazy cat ladies,” lampooning their political influence in a catchy, satirical way [16:01].

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2. The Tragedy of Activist Renee Goode and the Dangers of Progressive Activism

Main Theme:

• The show discusses the death of Minneapolis activist Renee Goode, who was killed during a confrontation with ICE, as a cautionary tale. The narrative frames her activism as misguided, driven by “hubris” and a lack of support from real friends or family.

Key Points:

• Rob critiques public empathy for activists like Goode, arguing that their activism is not only misguided but also enabled by irresponsible rhetoric from Democratic politicians:

  “You ask your sister this question, so what are your plans today, Deborah? And she goes, well, I plan on filming myself harassing and impeding armed law enforcement… Don’t you think this is unhealthy behavior?” — Rob Carson [13:45]

• He blames left-wing politicians and organizations for “using” activists as “cannon fodder”:

  “They don’t care if these individuals get hurt or killed. They’re after a reaction. They’re almost like cannon fodder.” — Greg Bovino of ICE, quoted by Rob Carson [17:13]

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3. Law Enforcement, Media Narratives, and “Useful Idiots”

Main Theme:

• Rob argues that law enforcement is unjustly demonized and obstructed by progressive activists, with politicians and media complicit in encouraging this behavior.

Key Points:

• There is repeated ridicule of Democratic messaging that allegedly encourages protestors to put themselves in harm’s way (“put their bodies on the line”).
• Discussion about following funding for activist groups that fuel unrest, particularly in blue states:

  “All of these agitators who are causing violence night after night, Portland, Minneapolis, someone is funding them...There is a money trail and we are going to follow it.” — Scott Besson, quoted by Rob Carson [18:45]

• The show expresses open frustration with what it sees as the lack of consequences for this “insurrectionary” behavior.

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4. “Trans Mania,” Gender Politics, and Conservative Comedy

Main Theme:

• Carson and guests mock progressive developments around gender identity and trans rights, dubbing the spread of these ideas as another form of “mania” or social contagion akin to Marxist agitation.
• Theme of “conservative comedy” gaining traction because “the left can’t be taken seriously anymore”:

  “Conservative comedy is ascending because the left can’t be taken seriously anymore. You cannot be taken seriously when you believe that nonsense.” — Rob Carson [11:52]

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5. State of Minnesota Politics, Somalian Immigration, and the 2024 Election

Main Theme:

• Discussion of the political and demographic shifts in Minnesota, alleged failures of Democratic governance, and recent moves to revoke protected status for Somali immigrants.

Key Insights:

• Luke Ball:

  “It takes some talent to completely bungle a state over the last couple of months in the way that Tim Walds and the Democrats have… It’s comical from a political perspective, but these are people’s lives you’re dealing with.” [23:48]

• The hosts suggest Trump’s political fortunes would have been boosted if these stories had emerged sooner.
• Riff on social media excess, “going into Ripley’s Believe It or Not museum,” and the radical divide visible at public protests.

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6. Law, Order, and the “Turning Point”: Calls for Crackdown and Restoration

Main Theme:

• The hosts repeatedly call for a “figurative beatdown” of the left, through stronger law enforcement or, if necessary, military intervention:

  “It is about time we delivered a beatdown—legally and in some cases physically—with the left… It’s just like you know the majority of Americans want just safe streets.” — Co-host [26:43/27:52]

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7. Global Affairs: Iran, Venezuela, and Trump’s Foreign Policy

Main Theme:

• Shift to global politics: critique of the Obama/Biden foreign policy and praise for Trump’s tough stance, especially regarding Iran.
• The belief that the regime in Iran is at a tipping point and that American intervention—economic and potentially military—is essential.

Notable Exchange:

• Luke Ball:

  “This president really has defined what it means to be a world leader. The last president, we saw an abysmal withdrawal from Afghanistan... To see a president actually beginning to shape foreign affairs in a way that presidency was meant to do is just so refreshing.” [34:39]

• Rob concludes:

  “When he [Trump] does it, it works. We’re about to witness history. The Democrats are going to try and whiz on our parade. We need to watch this freedom movement spread and experience joy. God bless the free people of Persia.” [41:29]

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “White liberal women are freaking nuts. Malcolm X warned black people about white liberals… the greatest threat to us is the white liberal.” – Rob Carson [04:26]
• “That primary instinct has moved to the criminal alien... the Democrat Party is going extinct by choice.” – Rob Carson [08:52]
• “This is literally the useful idiots that Lenin talked about. These are the useful idiots. They are subject to mania. They are subject to social contagion. They are mentally ill.” – Rob Carson [06:10]
• “If your sister prefers to stalk law enforcement, would you say, ‘You go, girl’? Of course not. You would say, you need an intervention because I care about you.” – Rob Carson [14:41]
• “They don’t care if these individuals get hurt or killed. They’re after a reaction. And I’ll tell you what, our law enforcement officers here... do a fantastic job in dealing with this every day.” – Greg Bovino (ICE), quoted by Rob [17:13]
• “It takes some talent to completely bungle a state over the last couple of months in the way that Tim Walls and the Democrats have.” – Luke Ball [23:48]
• “You cannot be taken seriously when you believe that nonsense.” – Rob Carson [11:52]
• “We are in a de facto civil war... They have soldiers for hire, they have cannon fodder.” – Co-host/Commentator [37:56]
• “We are going to win this. We have to overwhelm the left with joy and patriotism and leave the rest up to Donald Trump.” – Co-host/Commentator [38:46]
• “When he does it, it works. We’re about to witness history... God bless the free people of Persia.” – Rob Carson [41:29]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:26 | Malcolm X “white liberal” warning; origins of “Karen” critique | | 05:15 | Discussion on activism, “Lord of the Flies meets Animal Farm” comparison | | 08:16–08:52| Benny Johnson/Taylor Swift/childless cat ladies and empathy theory | | 09:54 | On-air call from “Sean in Live oak” about “crazy cat ladies” | | 11:52 | Satire and ridicule of gender pronouns, “transmasc” and woke activism | | 13:45–15:08| Cautionary tale of activist Renee Goode and misplaced empathy | | 16:01–17:06| “Cat ladies” parody song segment | | 17:13 | Greg Bovino (ICE) segment on dangers for activist protesters | | 18:23–18:45| Discussion on NGO funding for activists; “follow the money” | | 23:11–25:38| Luke Ball on Minnesota politics, Somali immigration status revoked | | 26:43–28:41| Calls for crackdown on progressive activism; public protest commentary | | 32:18–36:00| Iran/Venezuela, Trump foreign policy analysis with Luke Ball | | 37:15–38:46| Commentary on left-wing violence, “de facto civil war,” need for action | | 41:29 | Closing statements on hope for future, support for Iranian freedom |

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Tone & Style

As always, The Rob Carson Show uses a mixture of sharp sarcasm, biting political satire, and combative rhetoric. The hosts’ tone is purposefully provocative and irreverent, with intentional mockery of ideological opponents, especially progressive activists and political figures on the left.

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Conclusion

In this episode, Rob Carson continues his crusade against what he sees as the dangerous, irrational activism of Minnesota’s liberal leadership and its progressive supporters, using the “Karen-apolis” moniker to skewer both local and national trends. With a mixture of humor, passionate monologues, and pointed guest commentary from Luke Ball, the episode argues that the nation—and the world—are at crucial turning points, needing robust conservative pushback both in domestic culture wars and on the global stage.

Transcript

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[Luke Ball]

I love my community, I love my.

[Rob Carson]

City and I hate what's happening to it with people who frankly aren't from.

[Luke Ball]

Here coming in and telling us who should be here.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And I'm.

[Luke Ball]

When it comes down to loving my neighbor, I'm just gonna love my neighbor. So if the ICE agent who shot the woman and killed her in Minneapolis isn't responsible for what he did because another person ran over them six months.

[Rob Carson]

Ago, then just out of curiosity, I mean, for example, I was raped in the 80s. If I go to the gynecologist and he triggers me in some way, I.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Just get to whip out a knife and cut off his. Think Fatal Attraction and Glenn Close. Let's see. You know, there you go. Here's another montage of insane liberal white women in Minnesota. Get out. This is, by the way, not normal and should never be normal. If you would have dropped you or me off the planet on the planet 20 years ago. You know what, what the hell has happened? We've descended into Lord of the Flies meets Animal Farm. And we have, and we have and we have. And you've got these people. You shoot me in the face. Shoot me in the face. Fff. Women. Fff. I went to a. It was Elon Musk was a Nazi. Remember that? Elon Musk was a Nazi about a year ago. And so the liberal Karen's and all these, these idiots who are bought and paid for went to Elon Musk car dealership, said he was a Nazi. I had a 70 plus year old woman scream at my Jewish friend that he was a Nazi. And then fu, fu, fu to be. And I said, do your grandchildren know you speak like that? Fu, fu, fu. This isn't normal. It never will be normal. This is, this is mania. This is insanity. This is literally the useful idiots that Lenin talked about. These are the useful idiots. They are subject to mania. They are subject to social contagion. They are mentally ill. They believe that boys can be girls. Where did that come from? Out of nowhere, all sudden. Oh yeah, it's the biggest thing in the world. It's a new civil rights front that kids should take puberty blockers and be mutilated. Sexually. Honestly, what the hell are you thinking? What the hell are you thinking? And last night, Jesse Waters finally figured it out, what I did last year.

[Rob Carson]

All right, you see what's going on here. The resistance is being run by women and men who cry.

[Luke Ball]

Walsh, fry the chief. All criers.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, there you go. Liberal, white cul de sac dwelling, crazy cat ladies and the emasculated men in their lives. Here is Benny Johnson.

[Rob Carson]

These angry women. What is in fact their problem? And I think that I can diagnose. I'm no psychiatrist, but I think I can diagnose it. A lot of these women are, in fact, what J.D. vance once called childless cat ladies. Yes, Taylor Swift once bragged about being a childless cat lady. That's why she supports Kamala. But that doesn't get rid of your need to mother. If you are a woman, you're still created by God with a motherly, unwarranted empathy.

[Co-host/Commentator]

These are the people who fall in love with death row inmates. I told you this stink.

[Rob Carson]

It's just when you don't have children, that instinct moves somewhere else.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And for Dino Magione is so dreamy, this.

[Rob Carson]

That primary instinct has moved to the criminal alien.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Why? Sorry, Luigi Man, Mangioni is so dreamy.

[Rob Carson]

Because your instinct as a parent is to raise up your own children with the same value system that you have so that your worldview can progress, so your worldview can stay alive and not go extinct. The Democrat Party is going extinct by ch. They're not having children, and they're trying to project their worldview and power onto criminal aliens. It's actually horribly, horribly sad.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And I've distilled it best when I said they are crazy cat ladies and the emasculated men in their lives, the women who fall in love with death row inmates. It is an empathy that is unwarranted. And I heard Rogan talking about it when I was listening to podcasts, among others. It is a unwarranted empathy. It is a misguided motherhood attempting to be the mother of. Of people like radical Palestinian terrorists, etc. That's what it is. Crazy cat ladies is like what I call them. Sean in Live oak wants to talk about crazy cat ladies. What's going on, brother?

[Luke Ball]

Greetings from West Lib Tardy.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Luke Ball]

And Minneapolis has won the prize for the biggest Karens. And due that honor, I'm going to rename it Karenopolis Karenopoulos.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's good. That's good. I gotta tell you, I'm really kind of Done with their nonsense. I want to do a figurative. Plant the heel of my hand in her forehead and just push her and have her fall on the ground in front of me. That's what I figuratively want done to these busybody Gladys Kravitz crazy cat ladies who involve them. They're the ones. I told you this. They're the ones who are the HOA members who say your grass is too high or you've got a little mildew on your. On your. On your sighting and they want to wield some sort of power over you. They're inside and it's about time we punched back. Figuratively. Just kind of done with these busy bodies. And this has to be the year that we eliminate Karen. This is the way we have to send Karen back to her cult cul de sac. Sean, what do you think?

[Luke Ball]

Well, they certainly merit contempt, derision, mockery and ridicule.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Well, and that's what I'm going to do. Shawn, thanks for the call. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. The media and our friends in the Democrat party kept saying we needed new legislation, we must have legislation to secure the border. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. I am genderqueer, trans masc and queer.

[Rob Carson]

What's transmasc?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Transmasc is like people under the non binary umbrella identifying like or presenting mask. Masculine. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

What about you? I'm trans and on.

[Co-host/Commentator]

My sexuality is unlabeled.

[Rob Carson]

I use he, him, pronouns.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. And I use either pronouns.

[Rob Carson]

Fluid.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Fluid. How about just one pronoun? Nuts. How about you're just out of your friggin minds and I'm not afraid to say it? I got to tell you, honestly, they got away with it for a while. They called us transphobic, non binary, phobic. What? I'm honestly. You're freaking nuts. You bought into mania. Five years from now you're gonna look at it. Or maybe when you get a little bit older, maybe when you're 30, you're gonna go, what the hell was I thinking? How did I get that tattoo there? I mean, honestly, I just. I have no time. There's no. This is why I say that conservative is comedy. Conservative comedy is ascending because the left can't be taken seriously anymore. You cannot be taken seriously when you believe that nonsense. I have friends and their daughter has been going through a five or six year struggle about her, you know, whether she's a boy. And a couple years ago, after all of this bull crap, all of These things that she was trying to do to convince herself she was a boy. She asked her dad, said, dad, I can't be a boy, can I? And he goes, no, honey, you can't. But she's on all sorts of meds. She's on all sorts of, you know, going to all sorts of counseling. I saw her over the holiday and just gone, gone. Try to give her a hug. Gone. Didn't want to hug me. I'm a white man. I mean, honestly. Gone, gone, gone. This is the mania that Marxism does to make people into cannon fodder, which is what they're doing in Minneapolis. I got to play Gutfeld last night. This is a perfect distillation of Renee. Good. I want you to listen. I'm going to play it in its entirety because it's very. It's about two minutes long. But Greg has completely distilled this. And you think about Renee Goode. And I. I don't feel bad for Renee Goode. She made her bed, she lied in it, she bought into this nonsense, and ultimately she paid the price because she was. She had hubris, she had arrogance, and she thought she was bulletproof. Well, guess what?

[Rob Carson]

You ask your sister this question, so, what are your plans today, Deborah? And she goes, well, I plan on filming myself harassing and impeding armed law enforcement. So how would you respond to your sister? You'd say, honey, do you think that's wise?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

What about the kids? Where are the kids? Oh, I drop them off at daycare. So what time are you doing this? At 11. Aren't you working? Oh, no, not at the moment. So you drop your kids off at daycare, you're not working, and you're gonna stalk law enforcement? Don't you think this is time you should spend with your family or maybe do a job search or take some classes? Don't you think this is unhealthy behavior?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Now, if you deny to a family member or to a best friend that this is how you would react, you are lying to yourself. You are to protect your public virtue on this matter. This is how you get, in my opinion, the fake empathy.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Liberal.

[Rob Carson]

To return to reality, if your sister is unwarranted empathy, telling you that instead of caring for her children or her mental health that she prefers to stalk law enforcement, would you say, you go, girl? Of course not. You would say, you need an intervention. I need to stop you because I care about you.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

And that is the problem, Jessica. Nobody cares about Good.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Nope.

[Rob Carson]

You don't care about her. The left never cared about the activist group that trained her, didn't care about it, who should be sued for wrongful death, who put her in this situation. She had no friends, she had no relatives to offer her advice when she was doing. When she was putting her in her life in jeopardy. Think about this pathetic movement and all the videos you've seen of these women. Where are their friends? Where are their parents? Where are the kids that would say, mommy, what are you doing? Why aren't you home? Before every action you think you're gonna endorse? If your private Persona and your public behavior is different, you are a lying hypocrite and you're hurting others and you're not helpful to these lonely, sad people that we're leading on in this world.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What did I tell you? I hate this. Well, they have a lot of cats and they're mostly Democrats like Beepee Harris. They cry when they lose from their left wing views.

[Luke Ball]

I wish they'd spare us.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Kim. Gossip. They're cat ladies.

[Luke Ball]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They're cat ladies talking about some miserable ladies. Yeah, they are. They're absolutely miserable. Who have clearly lost their mind. Back one crazy. Hi, I'm Nail.

[Luke Ball]

Got called out by JD Vance when he had the chance.

[Co-host/Commentator]

He really nailed him last time. They got nailed. I guess they're too dumb to know Kamala and Joe have really failed them. They're nuts. They cat ladies. Yeah. Don't have a child.

[Luke Ball]

They can't.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Ladies talking about some miserable ladies who.

[Luke Ball]

Are out of their mind.

[Co-host/Commentator]

This is Greg Bovino of ice. He's constantly under attack in Minneapolis.

[Rob Carson]

That rhetoric does cause the violence. We've heard those elected representatives, have you, as you've said, say some very terrible things about law enforcement, about federal agents. And that's reflected in what you see by that. That vocal minority out on the streets. And they actually take what those elected representatives say and they put it into action. And that, that's too bad because they're being set up. They're almost like cannon fodder.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

Those elected representatives and so called community leaders and social media influencers, they don't care if these individuals get hurt or killed. They're after a reaction. And I'll tell you what, our law enforcement officers here in Minneapolis and across the United States do a fantastic job in dealing with this every day. A lot of restraint.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I want Donald Trump to send in the military and use some of the technology they use to go after and get Venezuela. Maduro. Maduro had a brain fart for a second. They used a sonic weapon. There they got to do something. It's time for a beat down. I mean, we've been waiting for the children to get a spanking for a very long time. It's ridiculous. Happening all over the country. Here is Ben Berkwum and what I.

[Rob Carson]

Saw in Minneapolis leading up to Renee.

[Luke Ball]

Goode getting shot was the worst I've.

[Rob Carson]

Seen in our country. This organization of anarchists, communists and now jihadists all working together under the banners of green red. These NGOs all funded and coordinated and.

[Co-host/Commentator]

These groups, these rapid response networks going.

[Rob Carson]

Out and trying to obstruct ice, doing their job. That's why Renee Goode is dead.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Because they chose to go out and get in and more are going to die. And if they die in this fashion, I won't give a rat's behind. Here is Scott Besson. He's going after the people who pay these people. We are going to again, what we do is we follow the money. All of these agitators who are causing violence night after night, Portland, Minneapolis, someone is funding them when they have lasers they blind DHS officers with when they hold up all the same umbrellas. Someone bought those umbrellas and there is a money trail and we are going to follow it. So treasury, come on, FinCEN can do that. Do it. IRS has a badass group called criminal investigators. They can look at financial fraud and they carry guns. They go out in the field and they make arrests. And it was IRS criminal investigators who got to the initial fraud here because state of Minnesota wasn't doing it. The corrupt Tim Waltz wasn't doing it. Yeah, the Democrat party, they're using it to cover up and keep illegals in the country. And they're also doing it to cover up the massive fraud in blue states across the country to the tune of trillions of dollars. That's it, that's all. And it's time for a beat down. It's time for a spanking. Luke Ball, political strategist joins us next. Don't go anywhere. Hey guys, it's Carson for Relief Factor. You know, I saw an ad for Relief Factor a while back and I saw a guy literally in tears with how he talked about the pain that he was experienced was gone. It happened to me too. I started taking a few months ago. My hip was really bothering me and I wondered because I'm the age of, you know, replacement of joints and whatnot, if it could be better. And I started taking Relief Factor and it healed. It's a 100% drug free research based formula created to help your body's natural inflammatory response, the same one that caused everyday aches and pains from aging, exercise, overexertion and just normal living. It helped me with my hip, my neck, my shoulders, all the places that remind you you're not 25 anymore. Relief Factor supports a healthy response to inflammation, helping you stay active and keep those joints and muscles feeling good. It's made with four key ingredients, omega 3 fatty acids, resveratrol, curcumin, and Ikarian, each one helping from a different angle. You can start with a three week quick start for just $19.95. That's less than a cup of coffee a day. So if you're tired of creaking like an old floorboard every time you move, give Relief Factor a try. Go to relieffactor.com that's relieffactor.com and feel the difference. Relief Factor because getting out of bed shouldn't count as a workout.

[Rob Carson]

Tragedy that Renee Goode is dead and we should all mourn it. We should all mourn it. Peggy Flanagan, the lieutenant governor of Minnesota encouraged people to put their bodies on the line. That is irresponsible. Democrats are encouraging people to obstruct law enforcement. They're putting them in harm's way with their rhetoric and it's wrong. They talked to Democrats who were talking to their constituents and they were telling them to get shot for the anti Trump resistance. What we really need to do is be willing to get shot when visiting ICE facilities or federal agencies. Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not enough. There needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public.

[Co-host/Commentator]

This is why it's a green red revolution. There's similarities, and I put two and two together a couple years ago about how radical Islam and the Marxist left are very similar. Radical Islam is for, you know, chest binders and mutilated surgery and female circumcision, which is what the radical left in America is. They call it changing your dinder. And then of course, in radical Islam, they encourage their followers to strap bombs on their bodies and go into synagogues and whatnot and kill themselves. But they never do it themselves. Kind of like the Democrat party in Minnesota. Well, let's go sit and stand in front of a car. You know, there's got to be blood. You get shot in the face and they would never do it themselves. But this is about using useful idiots. They're both very similar. They're very similar in ideology. Let's see what Luke Ball has to say about that. He is A political strategist, CEO of Compass Strategies. Hello, Luke Ball. And happy New Year. What's up?

[Luke Ball]

Well, speaking of useful idiots, here I am. Thank you for having me on.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You are not an idiot, but you are kind of useless. No. So what do you think about all this nonsense in Minnesota today? We got word that they are suspending the. Whatever was the protected status that Somalis have enjoyed for the last 30 years in Minneapolis, which basically means that they can be deported to Somalia. I'm hoping they do it wholesale. It's very clear that Somalia is the meth lab trailer park of the world and they have taken advantage of our largesse. Your thoughts?

[Luke Ball]

It takes some talent to completely bungle a state over the last couple of months in the way that Tim Walls and the Democrats over there have. Every story that comes out of there, it was like one thing after another. And I kept thinking, is it the same state? It is the same state. Was this guy the vice presidential nominee for the Democrat Party last time around? Oh my God, it was the last one. Can you imagine if this stuff were coming up before the last election, how much more Donald Trump would have won and just how greater of a margin he would have had because it was going on for that long. And this stuff touches on every single thing that's going to be relevant in the midterms. Putting Americans first, the affordability issue. If we're sending millions of dollars overseas to terrorist organizations, you think we couldn't maybe reinvest that into some manufacturing here back home in the United States or Minnesota? It also discusses the foreign affairs stuff. It's like, are we really allowing the Democrats to send money overseas to fund terrorist groups before they start funding infrastructure projects here at home? Yeah, every little item that comes up, unfortunately, because it hits all of the residents of that state, it's like really sad. On another level, it's comical to look at from a political perspective, but these are people's lives that you're dealing with and they are the ones who are going to have to pay the bill.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Well, you look at the, and I've been studying this for about a year when I said that Democrat party is run by insane liberal cat ladies and the emasculated men in their lives. And this is becoming very true. We're seeing this, we're seeing that the, the liberal Karen, the white Karen, is susceptible to contagion, social contagion. You, I mean, if you look at the, the, the web now, it is populated by women who are just off of their frickin nut. They are off of their nut. There's no doubt about it, dude. There's no doubt about it.

[Luke Ball]

I really just have had to shut off social media.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, God.

[Luke Ball]

Also, the algorithm sometimes pushes the things to me. I'm convinced that I know that I'll flip out about because then I interact with them and I just. The lunacy that it takes to come to some of the conclusions that our dear friends on the left leap to is just comical. And so we linger. It's like going into Ripley's Believe it or not museum. You can't even hardly believe some of the stuff that you're seeing. And yet it's mainstream. I mean, even, like I just walked past the Supreme Court on the way back to my office. Hordes of people out there protesting back and forth the transgender ruling that's coming down today. And, like, you can tell who the conservative protesters or supporters are really. They're out there in really clothes. They're standing there and polite conversations. And all the other ones have hair that came out of a bottle and clothing that probably wouldn't even be appropriate for a Spencer store. And now we are, like, seeing this back and forth dialogue happen between two radically different groups of people. Very interesting, to say the least.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I know there's a turning point here. There is a turning point. It is coming. It is smacked down. It is the spanking of the children that I've been hoping for, even though I never spanked mine, thank you very much. I think spanking and corporal punishment should be reserved between two adults in the privacy of their own home. But that said, it is about time we delivered a beatdown legally and in some cases physically with the left. Did you get a chance to see that video last night in Minneapolis of the, you know, I guess, Patriot MAGA supporter and all of these. These lefties go attempting to go after him, and he would just cold cock them and they would freeze up like fainting goats and fall over. Did you see that?

[Luke Ball]

I didn't see that, no.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, my God. He took out like six of these. These idiots who thought they could take him on and just one punch, right? Just like. Just like. I'm trying to remember the name of the movie with the. But anyway, Brad Pitt movie, and he was a Brit.

[Luke Ball]

It's some WWE stuff coming out of Minnesota. Sometimes it's just like, you know, and that's why the media is just so fixated on it.

[Rob Carson]

What's.

[Luke Ball]

What's really comical is that they'll go out there and they will show all of these images that the leftist Created with complete and total chaos and then run back and do art wheels to spin the narrative and kind of here's, here's the bottom line, Rob. The only way that the left is going to make Donald Trump's America look wholeheartedly chaotic, as if they create the chaos themselves. And then Donald Trump or the appropriate authorities come in with their law enforcement officers to try and restore law and order, which is what the majority of Americans want. Just safe streets. And if they have to use force, then they have to use force and defend themselves. The left could care less if that cop got run over and killed. That I know. Care less if these police officers went home to their families at night. And yet you see them out there creating these hostile conditions for law enforcement and then when they defend themselves, act as if the whole world is falling apart.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, again, there's no reasoning with them. They just need a legal or physical beat down, but leave it up to federal authorities. By the way, Snatch was the movie I was thinking with Brad Pitt, one punch, knock him right down. So back to the Supreme Court today and the insanity that we have a Supreme Court, dear God in heaven. We have a Supreme Court justice who could not answer what a woman is. And she is presiding over a case that is so bat guano crazy. And I know what this case is about. This is a case about men in athletic competition who feel threatened by all of the women who were born women and became men to compete and be. Oh no, actually no, that never happens. So what's ridiculous.

[Luke Ball]

It'S heartbreaking because if I had a little girl that was involved in sports and we, the situation, we didn't seek this out. They are the ones who are living out their fantasies on others. And unfortunately it is wholeheartedly reinforced by the parents. So it's really kind of like a chain of command.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right.

[Luke Ball]

The, the woke leftist mob will create the talking points and agenda. They will force feed them to the parents through their mainstream media sources. Those parents will then raise their children and impress upon them this mentality and then create conditions for the ones who were just trying to go to school school and be normal individuals that are hostile and completely disrupt their work. The left would like you to think that it's all about this one kid that is a guy who wants to play on a girl's team and that's like the entire situation that somehow we're depriving them of their rights. But in reality it's about every other normal kid that is on that team and every other normal kid in that classroom. Or that would be forced to share a bathroom, that person. So they don't pay attention to any of them. It's only about the one, for lack of a better word, human prop that they've put up, which is really sad, by the way. In order to try to push forward.

[Co-host/Commentator]

This ideology, those who believe absurdities will commit atrocities and they become useful dupes and they will pivot on anything. One week it'll be Elon Musk is a Nazi, then Donald Trump is a king, then Pete Hegseth is a war criminal, then Maduro needs to be freed and Donald Trump is a war criminal. And then ICE should be murdered. That's it in a nutshell. And there are a lot of nuts in that shell. More with Luke Ball after the break. Let's take a break. This is the Rob Carson show. Hey guys, It's Carson for Quince.com Colder days mean layers and your winter wardrobe may have you considering a winter reset. I went to a jazz club the other night wearing a quince tee, another shirt over it and a quince wool jacket. A woman said, you look fine. I mean, it blew me away. I have spent every dime for my kids and my wife for 25 years. Now I feel confident and I look good with Quince. I couldn't believe it. Quince has everything you need. Men's Mongolian cashmere sweaters, wool coats, leather and suede outerwear, each piece made with premium materials by trusted factories that meet rigorous standards. No middlemen means no traditional markups. The wool coat I wore to the jazz club the other night turned heads cost less than I paid elsewhere. You can also find anything for your home, including kitchen, bath and even for travel. Refresh your wardrobe at Quince. Go to quince.com newsmax that's Q-U-I-N c e.com newsmax for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com newsmax that's quince.com newsmax.

[Luke Ball]

We're also talking about a regime that's not only slaughtering and rob. I think it's far more than hundreds. I think the number of protesters they killed is probably in the thousands. But this is also a regime that is pursuing, still pursuing long range ballistic.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Missiles and nuclear weapons.

[Luke Ball]

President Trump has already shown that he's not going to listen to the isolationists when he conducted Operation Midnight Hammer to.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Destroy the nuclear weapons program or at least bury it.

[Luke Ball]

And I think that we're now at a tipping point where his red line has been crossed. Remember, he warned the ayatollah that the United States was locked and loaded, quote, unquote.

[Co-host/Commentator]

If they started killing protesters and the Iranian regime has walked way over that red line at this stage because they have. Political strategist and CEO of Common Strategies, Luke Ball's gonna join us in a second. I first have to tell you this, though, before I get I thought I'd tease you a little bit there. Here are some headlines. Forbes on MSN Gold and silver surge will hit record highs amid Fed Chair Powell investigation US Prosecutors open probe of Fed Chief escalating Trump war class dollar dips Gold at record high According to Reuters today, gold is it just shy of $4,600 an ounce. Silver is over $87 an ounce. If it's your first time buying gold, my favorite company, Birch Gold, is going to give you a deal. You could, you could get a 10,000 rebate with qualifying purchase from Birch Gold, get a little something back. You're not just buying gold, you're investing, you're investing in gold. Last year at this time, December, right before this time, $2,600 an ounce, $4,600 an ounce. Now $2,000 $2,000 an ounce. Kids in a year. Text my name, rob to 989-898 rob to 989-898 if your IRA or 401k is just lying there like Joe Biden on the beach, you might want to consider getting on the gold train before it is too late. Text my name, Rob to 989-898 up to $10,000 qualifying purchases. Claim your eligibility today. Again, text Rob to 989-898 for Burch Gold. Luke Ball. What's got to happen in Iran, man? I mean, this is history. It's got to happen. The mullahs, the I told has got to fall. We've got an opportunity. It's just a matter of how we get there. What do you think?

[Luke Ball]

Absolutely. And you know, this president really has defined what it means to be a world leader. The last president we saw an abysmal withdrawal from Afghanistan. We saw him completely flounder on the world stage and play with American soldiers lives. And to see a president who is like actually beginning to shape foreign affairs in a way that the presidency was meant to do is just so refreshing. So, you know, with Iran and Venezuela and every other foreign affair that is going on right now, it just kind of seems like the ones who are hostile to the United States, the ones who have had oppressive regimes for an extended period of time, are treating this administration differently, especially after what happened With Venezuela.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. And you would think they'd learn a lesson from Venezuela when Donald Trump issued an ultimatum and said, hey, I'm giving you an out. I'm giving you an out doing the same thing. And you've got the. At the ayatollah trying to play both sides of the equation, threatening war against the United States, which honestly, laughable. My God, are you kidding me? And then. And then posting memes of Donald Trump in a casket. I. What would you like to see Trump do? I mean, we got to do something. We got to give him a little nudge. The people, all the people need is a little nudge. Barack Obama let him burn, man. Barack Obama left him out on a limb and ended up giving him billions of dollars. What do you. What do you think?

[Luke Ball]

Yeah, well, and that's the problem too, is that they aren't used to somebody who is actually serious or that is going to come in and act as if they the upper hand. Because you're right, Obama did give them an enormous amount of money. We're not going to give them an enormous amount of money. We are going to go in and dominate. If we ever did have to have military intervention over there, I am somebody who does not like to see our military involvement that we don't need to be in terms of like, dictating the way things are going to go. If we need to ensure that they are essentially placed in a position that they respect the United States again, this is the president that's going to be.

[Rob Carson]

Able to do it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, we need to kick ass and take names, and most of those names are going to be Muhammad in this case, actually, is what that is. So, yeah, there's just a lot of nonsense. I believe, and I said before Donald Trump was elected that a wave of freedom and patriotism would sleep the grove. Now we add faith to that with the assassination, the assassination of Charlie Kirk. This is a godly movement and there's a point where if you have the opportunity to bomb the railroad tracks leading to Auschwitz, you bomb the tracks. You don't listen to people like Rand Paul. I kind of wonder if he got on medical marijuana after he got tackled on the lawnmower. I really do.

[Luke Ball]

Luke well with Charlie Kirk and just the way that the left has completely. And some of the clips you were playing as we came into the first segment, I was like, how do they allow this stuff on television on the media waves that the left and the Democrats are essentially endorsing violence? They refused, refused to condemn the violence against Charlie Kirk a few of them kind of half heartedly said that we shouldn't have violence in America. But they refused to really come out and denounce the things that were happening because they were like, oh, a voice on the right has been silenced now, somebody that we had trouble competing with. And they wholeheartedly seem to endorse this sort of violence in order to accomplish.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Their well, we're in a de facto civil war and they have soldiers for hire. It's very obvious we are in a de facto civil war. They have soldiers for hire, they have cannon fodder. And the only thing that is going to defeat them, leave it up to federal authorities. But it's going to require not only law enforcement but also possibly some sort of police action or military action to push back on this, because this is insurrection. The left is pushing towards it. They see this, they lost in the last election. They are desperate. They've got Communist China involved in this, pushing for some sort of an insurrection. And that's what it is. It's not about protests. It's about an actual insurrection against the government. I believe, Luke, in closing, we are going to win this. We have to overwhelm the left with joy and patriotism and leave the rest up to Donald Trump and the people of his administration.

[Luke Ball]

Absolutely. Because the left has already launched the soft insurrection. I don't call it soft. By the actions that they've taken against ICE officers and law enforcement. It really started far before this. I know this city that I'm sitting in right now was lit on fire by them in 2020, and now they're just trying to continue it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Well, we'll. We're going to stop it. I know that. We're going to win this. Luke, where can people find you on the social media?

[Luke Ball]

Just search Luke T. Ball. I'll be on all platforms and I will see everybody on the social media waves. If I'm not completely sick of the algorithm and the left loonies popping up on there, I might have to log off once in a while. You can reach me by carrier pigeon if that happens.

[Co-host/Commentator]

All right, brother, take care of yourself. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

If you have a situation where US Military action can tip it, where the.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Ayatollah and his thugs have to leave, you do it.

[Rob Carson]

You do it in a heartbeat. But if it's just maybe kind of right, you wait.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I don't believe that the mullahs are going to survive because now we have.

[Rob Carson]

Defections in the army. Once you have defections in a national.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Army, then you have a point of no return.

[Rob Carson]

It's not like the people, the army.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Units that are defecting away from the Ayatollah's authority can come back. Did you see the girls, the young women in Iran with the hijabs gone, waving their hair around, listening to rock and roll music is so beautiful. Those precious little girls over there can have a future unlike the future that Joe Biden with the. The terrible Afghanistan withdrawal. They were sentenced to a life of slavery. Child mar to creepy old men. So disgusting. This is Robert Greenway. Last night, I believe he was talking on Fox News about what happens to.

[Rob Carson]

Iran right Now in the 47 year failed history of the Islamic Republic. I think the people of Iran have never been closer to obtaining the liberty they enjoyed before 1979. Second, in terms of what may or may not need to be done about it, I think your points about the concern about how the United States has proceeded with regime change are completely valid. But I don't think there's any circumstance in which President Trump is going to insert the United States into the equation. I think rather what he will do and has done is to set conditions.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Bomb the snot out of the Ayatollah.

[Rob Carson]

So that the people of Iran could establish and re establish control for themselves and take control of their own future and destiny.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

And I think he's done three critical things to do it. He's applied economic pressure to restore it and to exacerbate the stress. He's demonstrated they can't provide security and stability working with Israel in the Operation Midnight Hammer. And lastly, he's been the first president to offer rhetorical support for the people of Iran. And I think we're seeing the results of that.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes. And they have the chance to be free. And we should do everything we can to make sure that happens. And there's a way to do it and there's a way not to do it. And the way to do it is the way Donald Trump does it. Because when he does it, it works. It works. We're about to witness history. The Democrats are going to try and whiz on our parade. We need to watch this freedom movement spread and experience joy. God bless the free people of Persia. Last hour of the Rob Carson that you're right in. Don't go anywhere.