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Rob Carson
You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is our number three of the Rob Carson Show. Welcome to it. Come on in. Sit us. Bell. A lot of stuff to get to on the, on this hour of the radio program. We'll start with this. You know, this transgendered man who opened fire on his family at a Monday hockey game in Rhode island, repeatedly put online that he was, he might go berserk. This guy is a nut. Complete nut. It was really funny because the guy who played Buffalo Bill in Silence of Lambs, he, he came out this week and said he was, he apologized for the, the stereotype that he exhibited. I remember when Silence the Lambs came out and people were like, you can't make transgendered people look like insane people. It's, you know, whatever. And I said, you ought to be happy because normally, you know, psycho killers are portrayed in movies by just white guys. You know, remember Norman Bates? Anybody remember Jason from Friday the 13th? I mean, remember Freddy Krueger and what the hell, Maybe on it is like equal opportunities, LGBTQIA on steroids. And, you know, ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. Now we find out that this guy was Buffalo Bill, acted like Buffalo Bill every way, shape and form. Complete nut, absolute nut. And I said years ago when all of a sudden this came out of nowhere, that suddenly, out of nowhere, 25% of kids want to become the opposite gender, even though it's not possible to become the opposite gender. I mean, I just. Do you know how Hard it's been, you know, to be a person with intelligence and common sense the last frickin decade. It has been so bloody hard arguing with people who are just stupid just will fall for any social contagion, any nonsense. And then there's so many of them that they, you know, they steal an election and then they jam this stupid crap down your throat and you're going, well, I know that EVs won't work in cold weather, you know, I know that Joe Biden has pudding for brains. I know that boys can't become girls and vice versa. I know that men are physically stronger and faster than women. Duh. If you don't look at me, believe in that, look at the world records. And there is a reason for all of this madness. It's meant to destroy our society. It's meant to confuse and corrupt our youth. You had this all happen while the kids were being told they couldn't go to school because of COVID We saw test scores drop dramatically. We saw radical Marxist ideology introduced into their, their, their, their textbooks. And they were told to hate each other because of race. I remember that started. My son was in, you know, middle school here in Maryland. This is, you know, 12, 13 years ago. And all of a sudden they started saying white, you know, white privilege. And my son, his friends were multicultural. His friends were all, you know, he was like, there was like three white kids and the rest of them were all Indian or Asian or, or black or whatever. I called it the United Nations. And they didn't care. They made fun of stereotypes. One of them would say, well white people, you can't dance. And then the other kid, to say to the, you know, the Indian kid, well at least my dad doesn't run a convenience store. And they would just make fun of each other. They just make fun. And then the other, well, at least my dad's still around, you know, that kind of crap. They did it. They did it. They didn't care. That was Gen Z. And then the Democrat party started, you know, and the left decided to bring all this nonsense in. And now we have a group of kids who are just bat guano crazy, completely helpless. And unfortunately some of the older kids in Gen Z have said enough is enough, enough is enough. This is ridiculous. Ridiculous. That said, people who are have a tendency to believe they are the opposite gender other than those who were, you know, social contagion is different. Mental illness, the original sin of believing you are the opposite sex, that is a mental disorder as much as depression is, as much as ADD is. If you believe ADD is a mental illness of some type, then you have to believe that if you have a twig and berries and you think you have a Dinah, that's your ba ba bing, you know you got something wrong there. If you don't believe me, listen to what's happened since 2018. Yesterday's attack, just the latest in a string of high profile mass shootings allegedly involving transgender individuals dating back to 2018. Among them, shootings in Maryland, Colorado, Tennessee, Iowa, Minnesota, of course, the shooting in bc, British Columbia. And another shooting yesterday in Pont. Did this happen before 2018? No. Tuck it. Now. There are also multiple reports tonight, Kaylee, that the gunman shot three of his own kids, killing one of them along with his ex wife, before then turning another gun on himself and deleting himself.
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Ashley Davis
Now there are three victims who remain hospitalized tonight.
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Rob Carson
Of course, we're continuing to monitor their condition. If we get more information, I promise to pass it along. There you go. There you go. And that's, you know, it's, it's mania. It's madness. It's insanity. Don't believe me? Look at some of these, you know, school board meetings where some of these transgendered or, or drag queens. Drag queens used to be clowns. Drag queens were meant to be clowns. They're women wearing woman face. They're clowns. They go up and they, and they, you know, and they do jokes, they do bawdy jokes. We used to go see a drag Queen in Minneapolis, Ms. Richfield, 1988 I believe is what this person called himself, herself, whatever. And it was funny. It was a man dressed up as a woman. It was funny. Then it's become drag shows are like, you know, a strip club act, men, you know, trying to be women. And, and it's, you know, it's just, it's not funny. It's not funny. But here is that the guy who actually stopped the, the, the in the nut bag trans shooter, who by the way, not only identified as a woman, but also a Hispanic woman. Yeah, there's a 56 year old Robert Dorgan, went by the name Roberta Esposito, so decided to become a Latina. There you go. Here's the guy who stopped the shooting.
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Eyewitness
I started saying, he has another gun, there's another gun. But I was watching the game, the hockey game, and then when I heard the pop, pop, it sounded like two very large balloons, you know, because you had an echo noise in there. When I looked to where the area was where I thought the balloons were popping, which Was right in front of me. When I heard the third pop. There was no balloon. So then that was when I recognized that there was a possible gunshot. My wife was sitting next to me.
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Rob Carson
You know, normally you say it takes a man with a gun to end something like this. This time it took a man with a penis.
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Eyewitness
When I looked around, I saw the gun. And I told her and her friends could run. I said, run. And then I said, run. And without any hesitation, they all got up. I hesitated for about a second. You'll see on the video, I hesitated for a second because I was looking at him. And as soon as the people cleared is when I got up on the next step and jumped. I jumped with my left hand grabbing the gun and trying to put my body on top of him. And what happened was my hand, if you see my hand, yeah, it got caught in the chamber of the gun. So once the hand got inside of the chamber and I had it flat, he was trying to pull the trigger.
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Rob Carson
Unbelievable bravery, right? He tore his hand wide open, man. He had, like, 20 stitches. 20 stitches? You had. You ever had, like, a few stitches? You ever had 20 stitches? That's a big wound. But he did it. Then this Jack Weed, Latina Esposito, got another gun out and popped himself in the head. Here is Rob Finnerty from Newsmax, the great Newsmax. You can watch him every night on Newsmax. Did I say he's on Newsmax? He's fantastic.
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The New York Times writing that quote. At a news conference Monday night, the police chief said that the shooter's birth name was Robert Dorgan, born in 1969. She added that the person also went by the name Roberta Esposito. Like Phil Esposito, the famous Bruins hockey player, but Roberta, not Phil. Roberta.
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Yeah.
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Then the New York Times said, but did not provide further explanation. I don't really think that you need further explanation.
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Yeah, he was transgender. New York Times here.
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New York Times. If you're willing to do some actual shoe leather reporting and look at this photograph. No, it's pretty clear this is a man wearing a dress. What more do you need to make the connection that Roberta was trans and violent and clearly.
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Are we kind of done with this denial crap from the media? Here is Rob Finnerty talking about the. The trans shooter's family. My father was a shooter. What happened? Who's his daughter?
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Ashley Davis
He shot my family.
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Rob Carson
And he's dead now. He has mental health issues.
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Any idea why he would have done this?
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He's sick. He's very sick.
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Okay. So that's Robert's daughter. Imagine life for that family. A man who was married to a woman for half of his life, then suddenly he wakes up one day and he says that he's going to be a woman.
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Yeah.
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So she divorces him. Because that's not going to work.
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No.
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Now, where have we seen that before? Oh, that's right. We saw this in the Joe Biden White House with this guy right here. We were all told to celebrate Rachel Levine. Levine, who in his 50s, after 30 years of marriage, woke up and decided that he was going to be a woman. Yay, Rachel. We were all told to celebrate this. And while the left celebrates that trans related gun violence has only gotten worse and the media continue to pretend that this is some right wing story, that this is a Finnerty Newsmax story. It's not. And if it is, how do you explain this?
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It's all been a psyop. It's all been a plan. This didn't happen organically. Nobody just suddenly, all of a sudden, a massive group of people decide they want to be transgender. Duh.
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That shooting in Canada last week, the shooter was transgender. The Annunciation Catholic Church shooter was transgender. The Nashville Christian School shooter was transgender. The Colorado Spring shooter was transgender. The Denver shooter was transgender. The Iowa school shooter was transgender. The Aberdeen shooter was transgender. Charlie Kirk shooter had a furry obs and a transgender boyfriend. Donald Trump's attempted assassin use they them pronouns. And was also obsessed with furries. All allegedly. Reportedly, of course, we have to say that. But do you think maybe there's a connection between all of this radical gender ideology being pushed by the left and the rise in violence from transgender people?
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Do you think, do you think, do you think maybe that Bill Clinton wrote on the Epstein airplane because, you know, he wanted a younger woman, you know, involved in his life because he spent his entire life chasing tail like that. Maybe, I don't know, maybe. Maybe some common sense here. But of course, what is that? What is the left done when these things happen? They expect. They expect sympathy for the nutcase.
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You might remember this 2023, after a transgender man killed six people at a Christian school in Tennessee. Karine Jean Pierre.
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Oh, boy.
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Told us that we should feel bad not for the victims and their families, but for the trans community.
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Of course.
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And the trans shooter, which is sick in itself.
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Yeah.
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Ashley Davis
One of the things that we saw during the midterm elections is that people don't want their freedoms to be taken. They want us to fight for their freedoms.
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Rob Carson
Yeah.
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Ashley Davis
And so it is shameful. It is disturbing. And our hearts go out to those, the trans community, as they are under attack right now.
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Rob Carson
If you are a Democrat watching this program, two things. One, welcome. But if you're wondering why Donald Trump is president tonight, this is why.
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One of the reasons.
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This is why six people are dead. But our hearts go out to the trans community. Where was the media then?
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Yeah, exactly. I think we're kind of done with the nonsense. Remember when I told you that 2024 was about returning to common sense from nonsense? Nonsense is still alive in its death throes. Yeah. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Donald Trump's election.
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Ashley Davis
No, no.
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Rob Carson
It's the gift that keeps on giving. It's the Rob Carson Show. Yep. The Democrat Party, As I said, 2024. When Kamala Harris announced her candidacy in that night, actually, she didn't announce it. They just made her the candidate without any votes. Democrats. You just try to remember that, will you? But anyway, that that night they had a two town halls, one crazy cat ladies and one emasculated men. And I said, that's your Democrat Party. Insane liberal women and the emasculated men in their lives. And some of them don't have men in their lives because they don't like men. There you go. So we were spot on there. We were spot on there. I want to mention this. You know we're talking about this insane tranny. I know. You can't say that. Yeah, I can't. Shut up. If you kill somebody, I can call you whatever the hell I want. There you go. How's that sound? If you kill people, I can call you anything I want. This from the Atlantic. The tide goes out on youth gender medicine, which we've been screaming about for years. American doctors no longer united on the wisdom of medicalizing gender dysphoria. There was no wisdom to it. It was insane. It was Josef Mengele. I used to remember six years ago, I said, Paging Dr. Mengele. Paging Dr. Mingela. After shaky evidence based for youth gender medicine has become better known, activists retreated to an argument from authority. It was all a cruel, psychotic experiment. This is MIT Professor Alex Byrne talking about. And this is what you should be ashamed of. If you believed in this nonsense. You should be ashamed. You should spend many years being ashamed, falling for this, this folderol. Or for instance, you know, alienate, alienating conservative friends or family members, which I had happened to me for saying, you cannot believe this. It's insane. Mastectomy is by far the most Common surgery for minors, as you can see here. Mastectomy sometimes going as low as 13. 13 year old girls. Never gonna be able to breastfeed when they grow up. Never gonna have breasts. Red. Good idea. These are extraordinarily drastic treatments for a psychological condition. Typically the child and adolescent patients are physically healthy. If blockers are given at Tanner Stage 2 followed by a prolonged period of cross sex hormones, then sterility is guaranteed for males and close to guaranteed at least three rendered extremely difficult for females. The ACLU said. Doctors agree. Gender affirming care is life saving. No, it's not. When your kid says, I'll kill myself unless I can cut my penis off, it doesn't mean that it's life saving. Means your kid's nuts. Your kid's nuts. I didn't mean that. GLAAD declared every major medical association and leading world health authority supports health care for transgender people in youth. Health care for trans people and youth. Dear God, you are so stupid. Fired up by the war, the Republican war on kids, she's now cutting off their genitalia and making them do mutilated eunuchs for life. That I think is about as warlike as you can possibly imagine. Possibly imagine. And the abuse that girls have suffered at the hands of this, it is, it is this mania where they've allowed men to pretend they're women and destroy little girls lives or even women in college, their athletic careers. It is so profoundly abusive. It is so profoundly abusive. I said this is exactly like radical Islam. You have chest binders in radical Islam to shutter the sexuality of women. They have chest binders for girls going through transition. They have genital mutilation, female circumcision in sub Saharan Africa, in particularly radical Islamic civilizations. What do you suppose gender transition surgery is for girls? It's the same freaking thing Nike is. The girls have decided to call out Nike for, you know, selling all sorts of sportswear and not saying anything about the real war on girls.
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Ashley Davis
Dear Nike, dear Nike, dear Nike, why won't you stand up for me? Why won't you stand up for me? Why won't you? Why do you claim to support women and girls, yet when we need you most, you remain silent? Today, males are claiming our identity, our sports, our spaces. Men and boys are stealing opportunities, medals.
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Rob Carson
Trophies and our future.
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Ashley Davis
And it's not fair or just.
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Rob Carson
No, it's, it's insanity is what it is. A couple years ago, for those of you who are new to the show, we started making fun of this. And the reason why we use Satire is because we were told you can't talk about this stuff on social media like Covid. You can't talk about the 2020 election. You can't talk about transgenderism being a mental illness because you were told it was disinformation or misinformation. So what did I do? We came up with comedy with Jim Gust. When you're a man who calls himself a girl, wahoo. It can be a bonus. Do, do, do, do. When you compete with women, you have to hide. Wow, that pair of cojones. I can cycle against the girls. That's my joy. High hurdles, don't you know I can steal their medals with this manly voice. Cause the left, the left makes me feel. The left makes me feel like a transgender woman when I compete with females. Come on, sing it, brother. I'm the one that's feared, sister or whatever. Cause I'm the only person in the race with a beard. But somehow I feel. The left makes me feel. They make me feel like a transgender woman. Big womanly finish. Here we go. Yeah. That's how we did it, man. We were like the French underground, you know, to get around the censors, we did comedy. That's why it works so well. That's where the only show in America that does it. Thank you very much. All right, coming up, Ashley Davis, GLB strategist, keynote speaker, amazing woman on the other side of the break. Don't go anywhere. Hey, guys, it's Carson for Relief factor. You know, one of the most rewarding parts of sharing relief factor with you is all the real stories like Sandra's she tells us. I'd been hearing about relief factor on the radio for a couple of years. Finally decided to try it because nothing else has helped my back pain. With the three week quick start, I went for it. Now I feel like a new person. Those are Sandra's own words. And it's just so gratifying to hear. I've experienced that kind of relief myself. And knowing folks like Sandra out there are feeling better makes it all worth it. Try it for yourself with a three week quick start. See how relief Factor could be a game changer, too. Call 804 RELIEF. That's 800 for relief. Or go to relieffactor.com that's relieffactor.com how will it feel to be out of pain? It is Rob Carson. Joe, I was informed about a woman named Ashley Davis a few weeks ago, and the more I kind of delved into her and I want to learn more about her as we introduce her in a second. But her resume is quite extensive, a variety of things, a power player in Republican politics, GOP strategy, keynote speaker, a trusted advisor on politics, was at the White House on 911 of other things. And she took a pivot that would ultimately land her in the SITUATION ROOM that day. I'm curious about all of this. She's also and listen, I'm not a big book author guy, and I'll tell you why, because everybody wants to push a book, but hers makes sense because I did it, I did it with and I probably did it trial and error rather than, you know, listening to her advice. But Ashley Davis has got this book called the Power Pivot with Grace, Grace and Growth. And she joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Ashley, welcome to the show.
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Ashley Davis
Thank you so much. Quite an introduction.
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Rob Carson
Well, you know, I kind of work on these things a little bit.
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Ashley Davis
You know, you do it for a living.
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Rob Carson
Exactly. I usually if I've got to have a woman talk to me, I've got to kind of set it up. Otherwise the conversation can end very quickly. So I want to know about 9 11. Where were you doing in the White House? What were you doing in that point in your life? So.
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Ashley Davis
Well, first of all, thank you for having me on. And I totally understand about not wanting to push books. Everyone has them these days. But I'll tell you the reason later why I wrote it. But 9 11, I was young. I was 26 years old, and I was working. I was on the Bush campaign and went in day one of the administration and was deputy director of management administration. And the management administration office has the military office that falls underneath it, as well as the management of political staff and then the traditional admin staff. And I just was going in for a year. I used to work for Tom Ridge, who was governor of Pennsylvania before that. And actually a really good story is that President Bush Senior was in my office that day. At the time, my office was on the ground floor of the West Wing. And he came in to say hi to my boss at the time because he used to work for him. And that was right when the second plane hit the Trade the Trade Center. And so as you can imagine, he was whisked away. We still didn't really know what was going on. And we were told by the Secret Service to take off our shoes and run because they didn't know what was going to happen. There was all these rumors that planes were coming towards us or the Capitol, whatever. No one really knows at this point. And so I helped evacuate the way the West Wing staff. And then that was when the third plane hit the Pentagon. And so my boss told me at the time, he said, you can either stay or go, but I cannot guarantee you'll survive. And at the time we had no idea what Al Qaeda was or any of that. I'm just, you know, oblivious 26 year old political girl. And so I, the Secret Service were pushing us out the door and so I walked towards the door and thought about what my boss said and I, that was my first big pivot that I actually talk about is I actually turned around and went back into the west lane that day and ended up staying for many days afterwards in as we counted down planes. I don't know if you remember, Secretary Mineta and Dick Cheney were actually in the bunker at that time and we were. Had no idea. No one could communicate with each other. No one had blackberries at the time. And you'll appreciate this. The only thing that worked was the GSA staff, the government Services staff that had Nextel walkie talkies.
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Rob Carson
Wow.
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Ashley Davis
That was the only way people could really communicate. And so I, I look at that time and which is really what, looking back, I ended up being employee number one at the White House Office of Homeland Security when it was created on October 8, about a month later. And then Tum Ridge, which I love to remind him was actually employee number two. And so we went from that and that was just because I was already cleared through the White House. Not, not any, not because of experience obviously. And so we ended up, we started out as eight people and we grew that office to about 120. And then two and a half later Congress passed the legislation that created the Homeland Security Department, what it is today. And so I learned a lot. You know, we started the first day that anthrax hit kind of the different Senate offices and the day we declared war in Afghanistan. So you know, it was crazy.
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Rob Carson
It's a hell of a lot for a 26 year old first timer in Washington D.C. to go through. Dear God.
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Ashley Davis
Yeah, you know, what the heck. Opportunity, right? And I do have to say and give credit to my boss, his name was Hector Stores at the time. He and Joe Hagan and Andy Card who really let people like, you know, myself at a young age and others really kind of be part of that West Wing staff and, and the opportunities that we had at the time. And you know, we, we worked seven days a week and my office. My day started. You'll appreciate this to all the listeners. My day started, I had to be at the office at 6:00am so that, that first meeting was at 6:15.
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Rob Carson
Well, that's a piece of cake compared to morning radio. I did that for a long time, but, you know. And you, you got the book. It's called the Power Pivot with Grace. And I was in radio for 25 years. And then I got let out of my first radio talk radio gig, literally, which was 10 years ago. It ended nine years ago or eight years ago, and I was out of work and I had to sell cars for three years. My wife said she was going to leave me unless I did something. And I said, what do you want me to do? She said, sell effing cars. So I said, okay, I'm going to sell cars. And I was the first person to wear a suit to a car sales interview in decades. The first month I sold 23 cars. I beat everyone in the dealership and I made $17,000 and I had to do it for three years. I was absolutely hated it. I was drinking, it was dreadful. I started doing, I was doing a podcast before anybody was doing podcasts and video podcasts. And I get a call one Sunday from a guy named Chris Reddy at Newsmax. And he said, rob, where have you been? I said, in an abusive relationship with radio for 25 years. And he said, I'm gonna make you famous. And I had to make a pivot there. I became sober about six months after that. A miracle of sobriety. And then, oddly enough, I recommitted myself to my marriage and my family, my wife. And I said I wanted to spend the rest of my life with you. I wrote her mother's eulogy. I made sure she was for her mother. I even catered her mother's funeral. And during the election year, the day after the election, she said, I want a divorce. And then she. This was 2024, the day after the election. Yeah. Of course, politics played a part in it.
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Ashley Davis
Just now. Oh, God, I'm sorry.
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Rob Carson
No, no, no, no, no, no. This is, this is why it's so incredible that I'm talking to you. Because since that time when I found this out and then I had to come go through the process, the grieving process of losing a 27 year marriage, I said, I've got to go to Washington dc. That'll be my next step. And I took everything that I could put in a U haul and I moved across country, left her the house and the kids. They're adults. And I said, I am going to be here for this. And it was a year long decision. Ashley But I had to make that pivot. And that's why I thought it was so important to get you on today because it's a pretty crazy story. And I know that you have the same thing going on. I know a lot of people do. Let's do another 30 seconds on this and we'll take a break and come back. Okay, go ahead.
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Ashley Davis
Okay, I know what I was just going to say, which is kind of a, first of all, I'm a daughter of a car dealer, so I sold cars during the summers and I was very bad at it, to be honest with you. I could just lower the price if I felt people couldn't afford them. Used cars, my darling, I'd never do this again. But anyway, part of the book, like exactly what you're saying, even though you made that big pivot the last year when you over the year where you picked up everything and you moved to Washington D.C. really though, you took 25 years to get to make that, to prepare for making that pivot. So I mean, and that's kind of what I talk about. The ones that are preparational that you really don't know you're preparing for, but you do. But then there's the ones where you just automatically like I did on 911 and like pivoted in my little high heels at the time.
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Rob Carson
Let's cover it on the other side of the break. Let's take a break and come back more with Ashley Davis on the other side of the break. This is the Rob Carson show. Hey guys, it's Carson for Shopify. You know, for years I had a swag line of T shirts with catchy phrases and whatnot and it's just been lying there. Well, I've decided to go with Shopify and actually make money with my own business. Shopify gives you everything you need to sell online and in person. Millions of entrepreneurs have already made this leap from household names to first time business owners just getting started. Choose from hundreds of beautiful templates you can customize to match your brand. Instead of just having a lousy website that nobody notices like I have been doing for years. Set up fast with Shopify's built in AI tools that write product descriptions and headlines. Create email and social campaigns that reach customers wherever they scroll. In 2026, stop waiting and start selling with Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com Newsmax go to shopify.com Newsmax make building a successful business your 2026 New Year's resolution. It is Rob Carson show on the Newsmax Online. Ashley Davis the Power Pivot with Grit, Grace and Growth. It's a, it's a book about how her life pivoted, how my, my life pivoted. And, and, and now I think my, my life is to serve to as a witness. And I think that's what you're doing with this, this book of yours, Ashley is, is witnessing to people about how you can change your life, how you can, you know, be stuck in one place no matter where you are in life.
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Ashley Davis
Absolutely. But you know, there's, there's three pillars which I also just want to touch on quilt quickly. There's a personal pivot which is kind of the most interesting to me because it's like what you and I have done. Then there's the, there's a big company pivot. So, and you're, and you're dealing with this right now, especially in this new AI space where there's so many CEOs that are, have been leading corporations, for example, like Walmart, that people are stepping CEOs or stepping aside because the next generation of people that understand the technology side of things or the AI side of things and how it's going to impact the business, how they are either stepping aside or preparing for this major change in how really, I mean some of the biggest disruptors that we've had since probably the Internet in regards to how people are going to be managing corporations. And then the final pillar is on leadership. And so how you lead through pivots, a leader not only maybe in your life or in your church group, I mean it doesn't even matter where or from a business side of things. So I kind of weave my business background into what I've done or what I've advised companies to do in regards to pivoting.
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Rob Carson
Well, it's, it is, it is an amazing time to be alive. It's also periodically terrifying, you know, because we've never seen, never seen this happen. I mean 10 years ago if you would have told me AI was going to do this and now we got the possibility of quantum computing. Yesterday we saw these frigging kung fu robots in China for God's sake. We got self driving cars, we got Elon Musk saying a thousand trips into space every year and within the decade a lunar city. I mean we've never seen anything like this actually. And the only way we are going to survive it is if we pivot in the right direction. Or get out of the way. Right?
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Ashley Davis
Yeah, or get out of the way and I mean, who even think. I love this example all the time. Who would have thought 10 years ago that we would call a stranger's car on our phone and get in someone's backseat and they take us to a location? I mean, it's mind boggling how things have become so normal. And what's going to be normal five years from now?
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Rob Carson
I don't know. The one thing that I always like to say is that you have to increase the value of your currency no matter what you do. For me as a radio host. Okay, what else am I? Well, I'm a comedy writer. Well, I'm a stand up comic. What else am I? I speak different languages, I speak French. What else? I cook, I do lifestyle videos. What else? You know, that's what you have to do. You have to increase the value of your currency. And when you're, no matter where you are, no matter what, you, you have to create a product that is uniquely entertaining or connective. Like for instance, there were six other car dealerships selling Toyotas in Kansas City. There was only one Rob Carson selling Toyotas. Right.
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Ashley Davis
You get a percentage of what you sold, by the way.
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Rob Carson
Oh, girl, I kicked butt making money off cars, but I hated doing it.
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Ashley Davis
I know, I know, believe me. I, it's. I thought when we were exchanging messages earlier, you said you were car. You part of a car dealer. I'm like, oh my God, we're more likes than we even think.
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Rob Carson
Yeah, yeah. Well, it's. There are some people who live to work. There are some people who work to live. I work to live. Some people will do their job, then they go home and the job just paid the bills so they can join their family. Me, I'm the way that I can't live without doing this. That's why I couldn't sell cars the rest of my life. I had to do this for a living.
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Ashley Davis
And I don't think like, like I just went through a major life transition. So.
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Rob Carson
51.
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Ashley Davis
When I turned 50, when I turned 50, I'm like, you know what? I have a, I had a company. And I was like, I need to run politics at a lobbying firm. And I was like, okay, I'm. I want to do other stuff that's fulfilling to me, but I still need to make a living. So what, how. And it took me about a year to really put everything in place. Because it wasn't just decisions I was making for myself. I was making them for my, my team that worked for me. And, and so I, it took me a year to put Something in place that I actually ended up merging, selling my firm to another firm that I'm still at the new firm. I'm going to be there for five years at least. And so. But I put those plans in place now because I know at 55 or whatever it is, that's just my number in my head right now. I'm going to be probably doing something completely out of maybe the traditional lobbying experience, but putting that in place. So. Because otherwise, I'm getting up out of bed every day and I'm like. Like, do I really want to go to the Hill and do the last, you know, the same thing I've been doing for 20 years, or do I really want to make myself a little bit nervous? That's when I started doing TV or radio. Like, talking to you today. It's still.
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Rob Carson
Because I've been. I've been nervous as hell for years.
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Ashley Davis
But it would be nervous because it means you're. You're interested, right? I mean, like, getting those butterflies in your stomach's a good thing.
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Rob Carson
You don't even know. Just. I would. I would say I'm going to move to D.C. in July. Then it became August, and it was like my mind every dang night. But I knew it. I had to roll the dice. I like to say, you know when you see that second Indian, the third Indiana Jones movie, when he goes to get the Holy Grail and he steps out, he does a leap of faith, and there's nothing there but an abyss. And he stops and he realizes he's standing on a bridge. And he goes to the other side and he throws sand behind him to see where he came from. That's me. That's what it took. But I want. I am happy as you wouldn't believe. It took me a long time to get over the mourning and the grief of losing a marriage that I wanted to be with the rest of life. My. My life.
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Ashley Davis
But I'm a hot commodity, too, so, you know, D.C. can be a good dating town.
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Rob Carson
Rob, you know what? I don't even care about dating right now. But I tell you what. I really enjoyed this conversation. Your book is the power pivot with grit, grace, and growth. I like talking to you. Not only about this, but I also know you're a policy wonk, and I want to have you on the show again.
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Ashley Davis
Okay, of course. I'll come in person.
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Rob Carson
Love it, love it, love it. Where is. Where can you get the book?
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Ashley Davis
It's Amazon's good. It comes out April 7, but pre orders are always really Good for those numbers. So you can. It's just under Ashley Davis, the power pivot on Amazon.
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Rob Carson
Well, if you look and see the best in front of you, there may be a bridge. I'm not kidding. The power pivot. I appreciate you being on today, Ashley. And again, It's Ashley Davis, D.C. on Twitter.
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Ashley Davis
Thank you so much.
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Rob Carson
All right, have a glorious day. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is not an ev and it never will be. By the way, the reason I had Ashley Davis on was because her story resonated with me, because I did this. And I wanted her to codify it for you, to call it, to quantify it for you so you can do it as well. In case you were wondering, she's also a fascinating person. We're gonna have her on again. I think she's in dc. I believe she is in dc. All right, what else is going on? Oh, oh, oh, oh. Olympics, Olympics. Olympics. Olympics, Olympics. The. The transgender pansexual Amber Glenn. She ended up getting in third place even though she claimed to be a victim of bisexuality. Ophobia.
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Ashley Davis
It's been a hard time for the community overall under this administration. It isn't the first time that we've had to come together as a community and try and fight for our human rights.
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Rob Carson
You're pansexual. What community are we talking about? Okay, so here she go claiming to be a victim. Claiming the victim. Not a victim. Unbelievable. NBA legend Enis Cantor. Freedom. Said the Eileen Goos, an American born citizen who defected to ski for the Chinese. He says she is a traitor. And by the way, I 100% agree. You don't just live your whole life in America and then ski for the communist Chinese party. Just gonna say she's a traitor. You know, she was born in America, she raised in America, lives in America and choose to compete against her own country for literally the worst human rights, you know, abuser on the planet. Yeah. China. Yeah. You know, she built her fame in a free country and then choose to represent an authoritarian regime. Yeah, yeah, 100%. You are raised in America. You represent America. Sometimes they have, you know, Russians come over and then they play American hockey, but they go play for the Russian team because that's where they're from. All right, but in the case of this woman, she was raised in America and decided to play for the commies. Not good, guys. Have a glorious day. Check out out the podcast. Go to usual podcast platforms. God bless Donald Trump. America is founded, you awesome people. Until tomorrow, which is Thursday. Do not catch the stupid. I'll see you then.