Lord of the Flies: NYC Edition

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show — “Lord of the Flies: NYC Edition”

Date: February 19, 2026
Host: Rob Carson
Guest/Co-host: Cliff Maloney
Podcast: Newsmax Radio

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show delivers Rob’s signature blend of conservative commentary, political satire, and cultural critique. Framed around mounting budget and governance issues in New York City (a “Lord of the Flies” moment), Carson and recurring guest Cliff Maloney (CEO, Citizens Alliance) discuss city and national political dysfunction, the impact of progressive policies, midterm strategy, media bias, and voter ID, peppering the conversation with biting humor and parody.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NYC Budget Crisis & Progressive Policy Mismanagement

Tone: Sarcastic, frustrated, incredulous
Timestamps: [01:44]–[08:29]

• Rob lists ballooning salaries for diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) officials in New York City:
  • “Equity 4.6 million. Commission on Racial Equity, 835,000. Commissioner on Gender Equity, 260,000...” [01:44]
• Cliff: “You can’t cut that back. They’re doubling down on stupid. The left doubling down on stupid.” [02:09]
• Critique:
  • NYC's budget spirals while basic services suffer and crime is rampant.
  • Political promises (e.g., free grocery stores) unravel as businesses flee due to crime and poor management.
  • The city is reducing police hiring, contradicting public safety needs.
• Rob, emotionally: “I don’t know why you’d ever be a police officer in New York City... what you have to do is ridiculous.” [03:12]

2. Tax Plans, Homeowner Squeeze, and Economic Unsustainability

Timestamps: [05:36]–[08:29]

• Proposed fixes:
  • Raising property taxes by 9.5–10%.
  • Dipping into city “rainy day” and retiree health funds.
• Guest Sarah Williams (via Newsmax clip): “We have a broken property tax system in this city.” [05:36]
• Rob: “That’s going to impact residential units and commercial properties across all five boroughs...” [06:23]
• Cliff: “It’s unsustainable. You can’t run a city like this.” [07:00]
• Queens Borough President Donovan Richards: “You’re really setting back generational wealth and you’re going to force people out of their homes…” [08:03]

3. Satirical Comparisons: "Lord of the Flies meets Animal Farm"

Timestamps: [08:29]–[13:52]

• Rob: “Now you’ve got, you know, Lord of the Flies meets Animal Farm. For real.” [08:29]
• Greg Gutfeld critiqued progressives as “adult children” running cities.
• Rob: “AOC is an adult child. She has no life experience. She was a bartender. She’s so stupid she doesn’t know what’s in a rum and coke.” [09:12]
• Roasts continuing mismanagement in major Democratic cities (Chicago, New York, Seattle), targeting their mayors and policies.
• Cliff: “Republicans just by default look like adults, even if you disagree with them.” [13:35]

4. Student Protests, Indoctrination, and School Authority

Timestamps: [14:16]–[16:27]

• Rob criticizes student walkouts (“anti-ICE protest”), argues students lack protest rights during school:
  • “I said to these kids walking out of class: protest, get your asses to your classes. You have no right to protest as a student…” [14:27]
• Audio from Principal Daniel Weber, Wilson High School (PA), threatening suspension for students walking out:
  • “If you stay out here, we will get your names. You will be suspended.” [15:38]
• Rob: “Teachers, you teach them what they need to survive, not your bull crap politics. Done. Done. Done.” [16:48]

5. Late Night TV Bias and Media Distrust

Timestamps: [16:48]–[20:18]

• Parody song targets Stephen Colbert’s handling of campaign fairness and FCC equal time rules.
• Critiques “sloppy” media coverage, referencing candidate James Talarico:
  • “Perfect encapsulation of why the American people have more trust in gas station sushi than they do in the national news media.” (Brendan Carr, FCC chair) [19:08]
• Cliff: “Who did this to late night television? ...Carson is rolling in his grave like a baseball bat on a lathe...” [20:18]

6. Midterms: Strategy, Messaging, and Voter Outreach

Timestamps: [22:19]–[30:53]

• Cliff Maloney (CEO, Citizens Alliance):
  • “Democrats have no message. But here’s the warning: that is still a message that motivates Democrats. We’ve seen it in special elections... even if Trump is not on the ballot.” [24:05]
  • Importance of Republicans being proactive in messaging, connecting achievements to party brand.
• Focus on ground game: Pennsylvania’s “PA Chase Program” targeting three vulnerable Republican House seats (PA-7, 8, 10).
  • “We’re knocking 750,000 doors across target districts.” [27:53]
• Cliff warns about Democrats’ “dirty” fighting and urges Republicans to “grow a spine... This is war.” [29:33]

7. Voter Fraud Concerns and the Voter ID Debate

Timestamps: [30:53]–[37:41]

• Extensive discussion on risks of voter fraud, especially non-citizens voting and mail-in ballots.
• Rob: “If those 20 million people [w/o ID] existed, we’d see town halls on CNN... The 20 million without IDs are illegal. Would you agree, Rob?” [35:07]
• Cliff: “It’s the worst kept secret in politics that these Democrats go out and virtue signal... It benefits them politically.” [36:11]
• Both emphasize overwhelming voter turnout as the antidote.

8. Mockery, Parody, and Culture Wars

Timestamps: [39:00]–[41:21]

• Rob launches the “Crazy Cat Lady of the Day” (Rosie O’Donnell) segment, lampooning white liberal women and celebrities with exaggerated song parodies.
• Cliff: “They have a whiny voice... They’re all pro choice and mostly barren... Don’t have husbands either. They’re cat ladies. Whoa, whoa, whoa.” [40:30]
• Rob: “You’re not going to get another show like this... I’m blessed to be here, and I will never let you down. I promise you.” [41:24]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On NYC Governance:

  • “They’re doubling down on stupid. The left doubling down on stupid.” – Cliff Maloney [02:09]
  • “I mean this from the bottom of my heart: you, ICE officers, border patrol... nobody should have to go through what you go through.” – Rob Carson [03:12]

• On Progressive Pols:

  • “AOC is an adult child. She has no life experience. She was a bartender. She’s so stupid she doesn't know what’s in a rum and coke.” – Rob Carson [09:12]

• On Property Taxes:

  • “The foreclosure crisis always peaked in southeast Queens. So, without a doubt, you’re pushing people out of their homes.” – Donovan Richards (Queens Borough President) [08:03]

• On Media & Late Night:

  • “The American people have more trust in gas station sushi than they do in the national news media.” – Brendan Carr, FCC Chair [19:08]

• On Elections:

  • “The Democrats have no message... but their hatred of Trump motivates them regardless of who's on the ballot.” – Cliff Maloney [24:05]
  • “This is political ideological warfare. And the Democrats do it in every single state. It’s time for Republicans to grow a spine.” – Cliff Maloney [29:33]

• On Voter ID:

  • “If those 20 million people [w/o ID] existed, we’d see town halls on CNN... those 20 million are illegal.” – Rob Carson [35:07]

• Closing Assurance:

  • “You’re not going to get another show like this. ...I’m blessed to be here, and I will never let you down. I promise you.” – Rob Carson [41:24]

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Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:44 | NYC DEI and budgetary excesses, setup for NYC critique | | 05:36 | Tax plans, impact on homeowners, Newsmax Sarah Williams | | 08:29 | “Lord of the Flies meets Animal Farm” satire | | 14:27 | School protests and student rights segment | | 16:48 | Media, Colbert, and equal time rule criticism | | 22:19 | Strategy for 2026 midterms: messaging, turnout | | 27:53 | Pennsylvania as battleground, Citizens Alliance program | | 30:53 | Voter fraud, ID debate | | 39:28 | “Crazy Cat Lady” parody (Rosie O’Donnell) | | 41:24 | Host’s closing words and thank you |

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Conclusion

This episode illustrates Rob Carson’s trademark blend of humor, parody, and impassioned conservative commentary. Centered on NYC’s dramatic governance woes, it critiques progressive policy, rails against perceived Democratic excess and incompetence nationally, and highlights strategic priorities for the GOP heading into the midterms. The conversational style, recurring pop-culture skewering, and calls for “spine” and “patriotism” provide a vivid sense of Carson’s tone and mission.

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Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Cliff Maloney]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Cliff Maloney]

Hold it.

[Rob Carson]

Now.

[Cliff Maloney]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show

[Rob Carson]

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[Cliff Maloney]

This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

Equity 4.6 million. Commission on Racial Equity, 835,000. Commissioner on Gender Equity, 260,000 for Department of Education Chief Diversity Officer. 301,000 for 3 FDNY Civilian Chief Diversity Inclusion Officers. There's a title for you. And 118,000 for an FDNY Chief Diversity Inclusion Officer.

[Cliff Maloney]

That's important.

[Rob Carson]

Is that necessary stuff?

[Cliff Maloney]

You can't cut that back. Yeah. They're doubling down on stupid. The left doubling down on stupid. On Capitol Hill, they're doubling down on the stupidity and the evil of child gender transition. And in New York City, they're doubling down on DEI and other nonsense. And they don't have the money. They don't have the money. The city is already in hock. By the way, their budget went up by the way, their budget went up dramatically in the last year. And they are so overspent and so overstretched. Ron Desantis was commenting on the entire state of Florida's budget. Annual budget of Florida is $117 billion. New York's budget is $127 billion. They're scrod. They are absolutely scrod. And so Zoran Mandami he's already, he's already, you know, dying on the vine. The free grocery store that they, you know, he's been promising free grocery stores, you know, cuz Democrats like say there's a food desert. When Democrat policies cause a food desert, you know, not fighting crime. So the stores just finally say, screw it, we're out of here. We're tired of being robbed blind. We're tired of our employees being robbed in the, in the parking lot. We're tired of people breaking out the windows and coming in and looting the damn place. So there's your food desert. Bravo. Democrats. I mean, honestly, so broken. So broken. The Democrat Party. Mongomi canceled a previous order from New York City Mayor Eric Adams, aiming to hire 5,000 more New New York City PD officers going into effect in 2026. So they're cutting police, they're cutting the police force. That's what Zoran Mandami is doing. Under Adams plan, the NYPD was said to add 300 officers in July 2026, growing to 2500 2027, eventually increasing 5000 additional officers annually. The Adams plan allowed the NYPD to deploy approximately 40,000 officers to the street, while Maidani's plan caps the number close to 35. 35. I don't know why you'd ever be a police officer in New York City. I mean, I don't actually, you know, any Democrat city. I don't know why you'd be a police officer. I thank you for doing it though. My God. I mean, I mean this from the bottom of my heart that you do what you do, that you do what you do and you ICE officers and you do border patrol and you go through all of this. My God, nobody should have to go through what you go through. What you go through. You, you arrive on scenes of horror, you arrive on scenes of murder and abuse. You arrive on accident scenes that no one be able to clear from their memories. I mean, people, you know, cut in half during traffic, you know, accidents, you, you, you, you do all of this and then you deal with petulance and idiocy and attacks. It is ridiculous, ridiculous what you have to do. Just don't ever forget people in uniform, what they have to do while you go into a cubicle. You do whatever. I come in here, I do a radio show. My job is a gift from God. But every day I don't have to, you know, kiss somebody goodbye and maybe never come home because I might get killed in the line of duty. You know, it is, it is unbelievable. Now ZelratMandami his moist dream of a socialist worker paradise is dying. Piles of snow and feces and garbage everywhere. It looks like he's going to have to cut back on his, his dream of, of capping rent or giving free rent to people. And now of course he's talking about if he can't get a big tax increase on wealthy people, which will make them leave and they're already leaving, by the way, then he's going to have to increase property taxes. Here is Sarah Williams on Newsmax. She's by the way, she's spect in New York City.

[Rob Carson]

So what we put forward was what we characterized as actions of last resort. I described them as last resort because we have a broken property tax system in this city. We have one that can barely stand up in court. And my goal is to reform that system to what we are.

[Cliff Maloney]

Everybody's property taxes go up 10%. That's, that's quite a blow.

[Rob Carson]

Hoping for what we will spend every day looking towards is working with Albany to increase taxes on the wealth.

[Cliff Maloney]

How about cut your DEI bullcrap. How about you cut your budget like you know, by, by $10 billion. How about that for your city's got a bigger budget than Florida and Florida's

[Rob Carson]

got a lot more residents, profitable corporations, such that a fiscal crisis is not resolved on the backs.

[Cliff Maloney]

You did this. Democrat policies did this of working and

[Rob Carson]

middle class New Yorkers. So if all that fails, he plans to increase property taxes by 9.5%. Kathy Hochul and state lawmakers have shown little appetite for the tax the rich approach. That leaves the fallback plan, the sweeping property tax that's going to impact residential units and also commercial properties across all five boroughs. He's also proposing a $1.2 billion taking that from the city's rainy day fund and also from retiree health care reserves. Critics warn that this will hit middle class homeowners and renters who are already dealing with high living costs.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, this is unsustainable. So it's unsustainable. You can't run a city like this. You can't run a federal government the way our federal government's been running either. Tax the rich.

[Rob Carson]

And what if he can't?

[Cliff Maloney]

Then we're in trouble, basically.

[Rob Carson]

I don't think so. Because the, the last option he has

[Cliff Maloney]

is something like $3.5 billion taxing property taxes.

[Rob Carson]

The rent is going to go up.

[Cliff Maloney]

You know, on the emotional knee jerk side of it. Yeah, you make a statement about taxes going up, people, but you know, when

[Rob Carson]

you See the details of how it really works.

[Cliff Maloney]

That's. That's what I'd like to know. Yeah, yeah. And actually show some results because they're doing a really crappy job running the city. I mean, a really crappy job running the city. This is Queenborough President Donovan Richards talking about the possibility of raising property taxes to cover the overspending of Democrats who

[Rob Carson]

are living in one or two family versus apartments.

[Cliff Maloney]

Well, we saw the foreclosure crisis. Where did it peak at?

[Rob Carson]

The foreclosure crisis always peaked in southeast Queens. So without a doubt, you're pushing people out of their homes. And even as we talk about a pathway to affordable housing and a pathway to ownership, it's hard to buy a home now. So you're really setting back generational wealth and you're going to force people out of their homes. And we know, we've already seen what happened in two. The Southeast Queens was hit hard, extremely hard.

[Cliff Maloney]

It's unbelievable. What a mess. If I were Staten Island, I'd get the hell out of it. Get the hell out of New York. Honestly, it is just so poorly run. And now you've got, you know, Lord of the Flies meets. Meets on the Animal Farm. Yeah, it's Lord of the Flies versus Animal Farm. For real? Yeah. Let me see. Who talked about that. Greg Gutfeld talked about that. I said that it's a lot like Animal Farm meets. Meets the. Pardon me, get on my seat here. But he basically echoed the same thing with regard to people. Kids. You know, I told you that electing Zoram Andami was like handing the keys to the bus to a first grader and saying, drive the kids home. You're going to go off the. You're going to go off the rails. And here is what Greg Gutfeld had to say. Hold on, let's. Let me find in here. Gutfeld. Well, let me find it. I'll get it here. He said something very funny last night and here it is. I'll have to come back to it. I apologize. Godfold. No, that's not it. I'll come back. I'll come back. But he echoed what I've been saying, that it is. It is a bunch of children. A bunch of adult children. You know, AOC is an adult child. She has no live experience. She was a bartender. She's so stupid. She doesn't know what's in a rum and Coke. That's kind of person she is. But this is what's happening. It's happening in. Not only in New York City, but also In. In Seattle, among other places. And it's happening in Chicago. Brandon Johnson is an awful, awful mayor. I mean, a terrible mayor. Worse than Lori Lightfoot and Lori Lightfoot, complete incompetent. And now the Chicago Bears are going to be going to Indiana. Did you know that the Chicago Bears and I talked when I was driving across the country? I stopped in Indiana, and there were some people in this hotel I was staying at. They were thrilled about the possibility of Indiana getting the Bears. The Chicago Bears going to Indiana because of incompetence by people like this. And here he is talking about it yesterday. It's my face. Straight. Okay, all right. To keep a straight face here. The Bears belong in the city of Chicago. The Chicago Bears belong in the city of Chicago. Right. And I've stopped making Chicago suck repeatedly.

[Rob Carson]

That the door is always open for

[Cliff Maloney]

conversations, you know, and, you know, I, you know, Kevin Warren did call me yesterday. We didn't get a chance to connect, you know, and I still firmly believe that their best position is in Chicago. It's evidence. Why? The evidence is clearly speaking for itself. No, it isn't. Chicago's not safe. Taxes are too damn high, businesses are fleeing, and it's run by an idiot. Why would you want to stay in Chicago? My God in heaven. Here I got the. Got the Gutfeld clip that I want to play for you. Hold on a second. Is Gutfeld, last night was talking about. Oh, it. Remember when. Remember when AOC said that Native Americans and Mexicans created the cowboys or something like that? Remember that? It turns out not so much the horses came from Spain. Greg Gutfeld uncovered something very interesting about not only that, but also the guy who brought the horses.

[Rob Carson]

The way she mocked J.D. vance, that, you know, the idea that American cowboys came from Spain, that. That was so stupid. She's wrong. They were brought there, like, I don't know, in the 15th century by some guy. Get this. Do you know what his name is?

[Cliff Maloney]

Who?

[Rob Carson]

Cortez.

[Cliff Maloney]

Cortez.

[Rob Carson]

She's a direct descendant of the guy that brought the horses to Mexico, and she got her teeth from them, then to America. So, weirdly enough, it was Cortez who brought the horses and then later gave us an ass.

[Cliff Maloney]

There you go.

[Rob Carson]

Anyway, I think the Democrats are blessed with the binary filter of being within our border, where Democrats and Republicans are kind of seen as intellectual equivalents because there are two. Two parties. But once you step outside the country, that equality evaporates, you know, on contact. It's like two guys playing Call of Duty. Then they both go to War. But only one has real combat and experience and skills. That's when the Dems. That's what happens to the Dems when they leave the house and they venture outside and you see that they know not are. And it's like on cable news. You know, you could see AOC and Gav can raise themselves up by sparring online with Trump.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

And you might think they're in the ballpark, but they're not even in the same country. And I think the mistake since Obama was focusing on identity but not national. Yes, in fact it was the opposite of national identity. It was splintered factions and causes, but it was trans, illegal rights, felon justice, kind of activist driven climate, pronouns, land acknowledgment. So the Dems took this short term virtue signal and let everything else go to pot.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

So they became almost like the children in Lord of the Flies. They just start going after what I tell you.

[Cliff Maloney]

Lord of the Flies baby meets Animal Farm.

[Rob Carson]

Republicans just by default look like adults, even if you disagree with them. And they have to return to the

[Cliff Maloney]

Told you, told you much of adult children. That's your Democrat party. And it's time for the kids to get us banking. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Rob Carson]

Hey, quick question for all the people mad at Donald Trump for calling that reporter a piggy. Would you prefer to be called her Hitler, racist, rapist, pedo, dictator, fascist. Would you prefer one of those Metallica?

[Cliff Maloney]

Come on. Yes, I like my metal. Heavy, heavy. I'm gonna put a smile on your face. I know I do that anyway ladies. I know, I know. Just seeing my face. Ready? I know. Go ahead. Right now. Try not to smile. I'm looking at you on the social media. You're smiling. Seating with rage and hate. Anyway, here we go. Listen, listen. So you got a lot of these, these kids walking out of schools because they've been indoctrinated to walk out of school. Now they're protesting ICE and all that. Now you Raymond, call back in 2020 or so. I had an expression on the show, pardon the language, but I said to these kids walking out of class, protest. Get your asses to your classes. That's what I said. You have no right to protest as a student. You are, you are not. It is not your first amendment right to leave school and protest. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. That's just not the way it works, alright? You can't wear a Black Lives Matter shirt to Walmart. You got to wear a blue vest. If you don't, you're told to go home. There are times that you do not have a First amendment right. Okay, but there's this principal. Pennsylvania, Daniel Webster Wilson or Weber? Daniel Weber. Wilson High School. Receiving widespread recognition after shutting down an anti ICE protest. Listen to this class.

[Rob Carson]

And we're good. If you stay out here, we will get your names. You will be suspended. Okay. That is your option at this point because you are operating outside the bounds of what was granted. That event was canceled. You left school without.

[Cliff Maloney]

You left school without permission. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Your rights do not supersede the school.

[Cliff Maloney]

Nope.

[Rob Carson]

So if you understand that that is your option. If you wish to return, Dr. Damiani

[Cliff Maloney]

will let you in that door over there. You have. If not, I will be getting your names.

[Rob Carson]

You will be suspended.

[Cliff Maloney]

Okay.

[Rob Carson]

Those are your options.

[Cliff Maloney]

What are we doing? All right.

[Rob Carson]

Your rights do not exceed that of the school.

[Cliff Maloney]

There you go. There you go. Turn this down. This is the exact opposite of some of the crap that's being taught in schools. Here's an example. We all anti ICE protest here.

[Rob Carson]

All are not thugs.

[Cliff Maloney]

And we all deserve hugs.

[Rob Carson]

And some of us won't even crush bugs. We're getting deported by ice And I can't understand why everyone can't survive. We have might, so we must fight just for our rights. Look at the future and set our sights. Guys.

[Cliff Maloney]

Cook.

[Rob Carson]

Our system is cooked.

[Cliff Maloney]

Booked.

[Rob Carson]

Our president should read a book. Shook. Every time we see an officer. We shouldn't be shook.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yep. This is because the teachers have been indoctrinated. No. No room for this. No room for this. You get your butt in that class, you get your butt in that chair. And you teachers, you teach them what they need to survive. Not your bull crap politics. Done. Done. Done. We've seen 30 years of this crap. It's time for the children and the teachers to get a spanking. There you go. So Stephen Colbert is claiming rectum victim. Sorry. He is a rectum. He's been. He's got a love affair with this James Talarico. He's a candidate for Senate in Texas and he's running against Jasmine Crockett. And. And the FCC chairman said, hey, if you're going to have Tall Rico on, you got to have Jasmine Crocodile too. Because it's called equal time. Now, I hate to tell you this. I've been in broadcasting for a number of years and it's always been this way. In an election year, if you have one candidate on, you're gonna have the other candidate on. That's the way it is. And by the way, who the hell gives a dang about James Talarico on a comedy show? Who cares? So you know, here's Stephen Colbert just shoveling the last few scoops of dirt onto the grave of late night television. And now he had to put the interview with James Tallarico on YouTube because the FCC chair said you gotta have Jasmine Crocket.

[Rob Carson]

Now here's the thing. I don't usually say this to a guest, but if people are watching this right now, it's because they found us online on YouTube. I did an act of the show that's on tonight explaining why it's not the first time you've caused some drama. FCC opening probe into the View after appearance by Talarico. Do you mean to cause trouble?

[Cliff Maloney]

I think that Donald Trump, he did get attention and raise money. He raised two point million dollars. After that appear, here is Brendan Carr, the FCC chair shredding both of them.

[Rob Carson]

You had a Democrat candidate who understood the way that the news media works.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

And he took advantage of all of your sort of prior conceptions to run a hoax apparently for the purpose of raising money.

[Cliff Maloney]

It was a stunt getting clicks. A stunt.

[Rob Carson]

And the news media played right into it. It, I think yesterday was a perfect encapsulation of why the American people have more trust in gas station sushi than they do in the national news media.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

And this was very plainly an effort ginned up to get clicks and to raise money. And you guys ate it up like sloppy when it was pointed out that the facts were completely different.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Than what the fake news media was running with. Nobody did like an about face and did a fact correction. They just pivoted and moved away. And again, I think this is why the American people simply don't trust the

[Cliff Maloney]

news media anymore 100%. And then also that late night is just awful. Now here is Brandon Carr talking about equal time.

[Rob Carson]

The equal time rule was put in place all the way back in the 1950s by Congress. And again the idea is you don't want these legacy media gatekeepers picking the candidates that are going to win primaries for general elections about more speech, more information, empowering viewers. Again, step back at what happened during the Biden years at the FCC. That was actually weaponization. That's when they threatened to not revoke the license for a Fox broadcast station because of program they didn't like on Fox News cable. It's when Democrats went after cable companies and pressured them to drop Fox News. That's weaponization. What we're doing now is Simply applying the law on the books and even handed manner. And for people that benefited from a two tier system of justice during the Biden years, it may feel like weaponization, but that doesn't make it so.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, and shame on you for just ruining late night television. Who the hell in late night television? I am a, I got a doctorate. Late night television. I followed my whole life that you would think that Talarico or, you know, Eric Swalwell or whoever are entertaining or even interesting. Why would you do that other than just because you're in their pants politically? Shame on you. Shame on all of you. Who did this to late night television? Johnny Cash or Johnny Carson? Carson is rolling in his grave like a baseball bat on a lathe for God's sake. Shame on you. You stick a break and come back. Cliff Baloney. Citizens alliance next. Don't go anywhere. Hey guys, it's Carson for Shopify. You know, for years I have had a swag line of T shirts with catchy phrases and whatnot and it's just been lying there. Well, I've decided to go with Shopify and actually make money with my own business. Shopify gives you everything you need to sell online and in person. Millions of entrepreneurs have already made this leap from household names to first time business owners just getting started. Choose from hundreds of beautiful templates you can customize to match your brand. Instead of just having a lousy website that nobody notices like I have been doing for years. Set up fast with Shopify's built in AI tools that write product descriptions and headlines. Create email and social campaigns that reach customers wherever they scroll. In 2026, stop waiting and start selling with Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com Newsmax go to shopify.com Newsmax make building a successful business your 2026 New Year's Res.

[Rob Carson]

They're not doing a great job in many cases running their own states. Those who were in the previous administration don't have a good story to tell. They tanked our economy. The president now is cleaning up a lot of the messes from the Biden Harris administration. Chaos around the world. An economy that left so many people hurting, unable to afford basic necessities. And now we finally have a president who's putting us on the right track, leading from the top. What is their message when they're going into these places? The only thing that they have to say is we don't like Donald Trump.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, 100% it's being contrary to Trump. No matter what it is, even when it's obviously good. And most of it is like blowing up narco drug boats. They're fishermen, you know, like bombing Iran nuclear sites, closing the southern border, extracting Maduro. I mean, I can go on and on. They're on the wrong side of every thing. The only thing they have is anti Trump. And you've noticed affordability is now off the table. Today we got great new job numbers and of course they were better than expected. Really? Not me. I knew they were going to kick butt. But, you know, this is your Democrat Party. They're doing a death spiral into hell. Cliff Maloney, CEO of Citizens alliance, joins us on the Newsmax headline. Cliff, how you doing, bro?

[Rob Carson]

I am great. Appreciate you guys having me.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, man, always great to have you on. You know, we obviously have to be cautious with the any election when it involves Democrats. But I am not pessimistic about the midterms. A lot of times, you know, people lose the House, both houses in the midterms, but the Democrat Party has nothing to run on. They have nothing to run. What are your thoughts on, on where we are now versus where we're going to be in October?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest obstacle that Republicans are going to have, let me start by saying it's not going to be the Democrat message. That's a problem.

[Cliff Maloney]

Right.

[Rob Carson]

The Democrats have no message. You know, what we were just listening to is exactly correct. It's just Donald Trump is bad. Right. That's their entire message. But here's the warning and this is a big warning to all the Republicans out there. That is still a message that motivates Democrats. We've seen it in special elections, we saw it in the 2025 off year elections that even if Trump is not on the ballot, Democrats are motivated by the message of Donald Trump is bad and you must vote against him even if he's not on the ballot. So Republicans are going to have to get out there, Rob. We're going to have to drive messaging. We're going to have to connect the dots between the good things happening in the US and making sure that Republicans get credit for it. Democrats are very good at blaming, but we need to be better at taking credit.

[Cliff Maloney]

100%. 100%. The President has a speech today on the economy at 4 o' clock on Newsmax, by the way. And I've been asking this question, I've been asking, how do we prove and show that there is great thing, there are great things happening in the vacuum of any good news in the liberal media, they will not report anything, no matter how good it is. I mean, honestly, if the Ayatollah falls this weekend, they will find something good to say about the Ayatollah. They're not even protesting against the Ayatollah on college campuses. They wanted Monero freed, for God's sake. I mean, honestly, we got to be able to overwhelm them. Their message of absolute negativity with unmistakable success.

[Rob Carson]

100%. And look, the one thing I try to tell a lot of people is what really matters anymore is not October. You know, it used to be, how do people feel in October? And that will dictate how they vote in November. The problem, Rob, is all these states have three months of voting. So, you know, some people are voting in August or September. And so I honestly think it's really, you know, how are people feeling in June and July when we get into the hot summer months? What are people seeing in their bank account? What are they seeing when they go to the grocery store, when they fill up their gas tank? That's where Republicans are going to have to lead. And it's going to have to be those couple of months where people not only feel it, but that Republicans are out there energizing the base, talking about the results. But, Rob, once again, and Democrats take elections seriously, right? This is a business to them. They hate Donald Trump. That's their motivator. The question is whether Republicans can match the energy and actually compete with Democrats.

[Cliff Maloney]

I think we can. We're in the 250th anniversary of our. The country's birth. I think there's a wave of patriotism and faith sweeping across the country. Did you see the. The Black Lives. Black Lives. The. The Black History Month meeting at the White House yesterday? I thought that was pretty amazing. How did they get in without an id?

[Rob Carson]

That was great. It was fantastic. And I think more events like that, you know, showing the real impact that Trump 47 is having on some of the minority communities and just all communities. Right. I think the more we can do that, and remember, we won that election in 2024 due to black men and women in Philadelphia, in Pittsburgh, and some of the major cities throughout the country and swing states because they rejected the Democrats. And so the coalition is changing, but we've got to get that coalition stronger and back together for 2026.

[Cliff Maloney]

No, we do now. Pennsylvania. You. You're kind of a Pennsylvania insider. What do you know what's going on in Pennsylvania? You said three congressional Republicans, top 10 targets. Tell me what's going on in Pennsylvania? Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

I mean, Pennsylvania decided the majority when it came to the U.S. house. I mean, we. In 2024, we had three different seats that we won by less than roughly 2 percentage points. So what are we doing this year? Right. What's happening in Pennsylvania? So our group, Citizens alliance, we've relaunched the Pennsylvania Chase program. So that's our program to go out. We're knocking 750,000 doors across target districts. And the three you mentioned, Rob, that every listener should be paying attention to is PA 7, 8 and 10. That's Ryan McKenzie, Rob Bresnahan and Scott Perry. The Democrats have been spending money against them since the last election. Meaning they didn't take any time off. Right. They might have got two weeks. They're back up in the field. They're on the airwaves, they're on radio, they've got digital ads, mailers. Out of the top 10 districts across the country, the Democrats think they can flip. Three of them are in Pennsylvania. And so we are all in with this PHA program. We're going to try to defend all three of these seats, but it's going to be a battle. And it's already started. I mean, this is something that started months ago, but we're out there grinding.

[Cliff Maloney]

And the Democrats are spending a ton of money. I saw Hakeem Jefferson. They'll spend $30 million in the state of Virginia to make sure that they can go, what, 10 Democrats, one Republican there. They fight dirty, doing the same thing in. In Maryland, among other places. So where. Where we, I mean, we. We're ahead in fundraising, but we're clearly gonna have to do a lot better, right?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Not only are we gonna have to do a lot better, but we need fighters. You know, like you just said, look, the Democrats, they fight, they want 10 to 1 in Virginia, yet we got people like Dan Webster in Florida complaining that DeSantis maps are a little too strong. I just. I'm sorry. Kind of just sick and tired of some of these soft Republicans that don't realize this is war. Right. This is political ideological warfare. And the Democrats do it in every single state. And it's time for Republicans to grow a spine and to push to make sure that if they control the state, they control the maps, play by the same rules as the Democrats. That's all I'm saying.

[Cliff Maloney]

How dirty they're fighting in Virginia. I just moved to Virginia. Right. I just moved to Virginia about six months ago, and they put up a terrible Republican candidate who has the personality of an Armadillo against Abigail Spamberger. And Abigail Spamberger lied, lied about her and what she represents and what she wanted to do. And then when she got into office, they unveiled all this bat guano, crazy Marxist crap. So the Democrat party will do anything to win and every one of them should be never considered moderate. Never considered moderate. Democrats know how to lie. This is not a moderate party. They are heading left, left, left. Can you hold on through the break, Cliff, because I want to talk to you a little bit about voter integr, how that's going to impact things. Can you do that, my friend?

[Rob Carson]

Yes, sir. I'll be here.

[Cliff Maloney]

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[Rob Carson]

I wouldn't put it past some of the Dems in Philadelphia and obviously Allegheny County. You know, we always have issues there. We've got to kind of overwhelm them. But, I mean, we got to pass the. Say that, you know, I mean, I hate to keep going back to it. I mean, I feel like we're all beating it like a dead horse, but it's. It's. You know, are the Republicans going to actually push this thing through or not? Because that's the biggest issue we have non citizens voting, you know, and these mail in ballots going out. We need very much severe reform and we're just not seeing it right now.

[Cliff Maloney]

You know, I want to tell you something, Cliff, you may or may not know. The Democrat Party this last week has insulted the black community once again. They've been doing it since the Civil War. And then also women by saying that women cannot exist without a man in their lives. If you get a divorce, you won't have an id. You got, you know, you need an ID for a million things. You cannot live in this country and be clothed and housed without identification. Right. Okay. So the Democrat Party, rather than saying let's make sure that people can have an ID so they can get a house or they can rent, instead they've said there are 20 million people who do not have an ID so we should get rid of an ID requirement to prove your citizenship. And I would venture to say that those 20 million people, legal citizens who do not have ID do not exist. They do not exist. We would see town halls on CNN if that group of people existed. The 20 million without IDs are illegal. That makes sense. Would you agree, Rob?

[Rob Carson]

They need those 20 million votes to win nationally. Of course I agree. Right. It's the worst kept secret in politics that these Democrats go out and virtue signal and they act as if they've got some good moral compass. And that's why they need people to not have an ID to vote. It's obvious. No, they know that it benefits them politically. They've all got the same talking points. It's oh well, the Republicans are racist and they're homophobic and they're misogynist. It's the same thing. What is this poll at? 90% of all Americans support the ID. The idea that you need an ID to vote. I mean, this is one of the most agreed upon consensus issues in a time of complete polarization of politics. I mean, think about that. You know, this is like the number one thing people agree on. They should get it done.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yep. And it's going to happen. I'm optimistic, Cliff. I think that the Democrat is doing a death spiral into hell. Even Chris Cuomo the other day said that 80% of the Democrat party wants voter ID or more. And there's 20% of bat guano crazy leftists and people who are in office who just want to keep the gravy train going. I've said this, I've said that our country is 80, 20 on most things. We love our country and all of this. And I think we've got to stay energetic. We've got to overwhelm them with joy and patriotism. I like to say I use mockery, ridicule and satire and let Donald Trump handle the ass kicking. There you go. I think that's a recipe for success. Cliff Maloney, what do you think, brother?

[Rob Carson]

I think Rob Carson, 2028, we got to get you an office after that speech.

[Cliff Maloney]

What I want to do because I live in D.C. and I love me some Pennsylvania and I will do everything I can to help out in Pennsylvania and Maryland and Virginia. But Clip Maloney, where can people help you guys out? Citizens Alliance.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely, Rob. Check me out on Twitter or X JustLowni. And if folks want to go to doors, win wars.com you can see all the projects we're working on. And if you want to help in pa, we would love to help. Appreciate you, Rob. Patriot as always. Got a great audience, a great following. Thanks for letting me come on today.

[Cliff Maloney]

You, you are a worry with us. We are at war and you're with us. And we're going to have you on all the time this year because we're going to take those midterms, bro. Have a glorious weekend. Okay, buddy.

[Rob Carson]

You got it. Thanks, guys.

[Cliff Maloney]

Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. That the president has a prepared speech on this issue that he prepares to

[Rob Carson]

deliver at the right time. Is that true and does the Trump

[Cliff Maloney]

administration believe aliens are real? That is Mike Carter of Newsmask asking Caroline Levitt, New York Post in a story said that Donald Trump has a prepared speech about addressing space aliens.

[Rob Carson]

Well, a speech on aliens would be news to me.

[Cliff Maloney]

That sounds very exciting, though I'll have

[Rob Carson]

to to check in with our speechwriting

[Cliff Maloney]

team and that would be of great

[Rob Carson]

interest to me personally and I'm sure all of you in this room and

[Cliff Maloney]

apparently former President Obama, too. There you go. Absolutely. He thinks there's a space aliens and he backtracked on it. He backtracked on it. There may not be space aliens, but he's certainly married to Bigfoot. Okay, here we go. The crazy cat lady of the day is a celebrity. She's Rosie o'. Donnell. She sneaked back in the country from Ireland to dip her toes back in here. She left the country for no good reason other than to throw a temper tantrum.

[Rob Carson]

It's worse every day. I feel like we're in a dystopian nightmare and no one, no, it's all in your head doing anything about it.

[Cliff Maloney]

How Could. You need so much therapy. You're so rich, you don't have a care in the world, and you're nuts.

[Rob Carson]

I don't understand how he's able to get away with the things he gets away with breaking the law, the emoluments.

[Cliff Maloney]

Which one.

[Rob Carson]

Which one was taking bribes? Black.

[Cliff Maloney]

Really? What are you. Taking bribes? How's that?

[Rob Carson]

Blackmailing people.

[Cliff Maloney]

Blackmail?

[Rob Carson]

He's a criminal con man. And if you grew up in New York as I did, you knew this your whole life. No, you didn't. We watched his planes get repossessed off the Runway at LaGuardia. We watched him try to sell steak and cologne.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, he still does. He sells watches. I think about getting one, but it costs $500. I want one of those Trump watches. I want one of those. The red one. It looks real. I mean, it's a. And they're pretty cool watches, but they're like 500. So. So, Rosie O' Donnell gets this today, our crazy cat lady feature. They're all white, liberal women. Did you notice that? Well, they have a lot of cats, and they're all Democrats.

[Rob Carson]

We call them Karen Rare.

[Cliff Maloney]

They have a whiny voice.

[Rob Carson]

They are all pro choice and mostly barren.

[Cliff Maloney]

Yeah, they don't have husbands either.

[Rob Carson]

They're cat ladies Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Cliff Maloney]

They're cat ladies Talking about some miserable ladies who have clearly lost their mind

[Rob Carson]

these Karens don't like us they often pay a price Mistakes they're making and

[Cliff Maloney]

they don't eat bacon Karenism is their curse could go to jail or worse for their love breaking oh, that's a good rhyme, too. They're cat ladies don't have a child they're cat ladies Talking about some miserable ladies

[Rob Carson]

who are out of their mind There you go. There you go.

[Cliff Maloney]

There's no other show in America that does this. You know that, right? I started writing for Rush Limbaugh as a kid, right out of college and came up with stuff like this. And I got this guy named Jim Gossett, and it's. It's just a part of the show. It's a part of the show. The show's about leading edge opinion. The show is about to guess. The show is about connection with you. And I. And I share my life with you. You're not going to get another show like this. This is why it's growing. This is why it's growing. I didn't have a national syndicated show until, like, six years ago. And it's blowing up. It's blowing up across the country. Thank you for joining me, guys. I'm blessed to be here and I will never let you down. I promise you. God bless America. As founded Donald Trump. What he's doing the country to make it even better than ever. And. And of course, you guys. And until tomorrow, which is by the grace of God. Finally, Friday. Don't catch the stupid. See you.