Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: Trump Just Changed the Game on Ukraine & Russia

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: Trump Just Changed the Game on Ukraine & Russia
Date: September 24, 2025
Podcast: Newsmax Podcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show features Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer reacting to Donald Trump’s bombshell comments on Ukraine and Russia. The episode covers Trump’s assertion that NATO should be able to shoot down Russian planes and that Ukraine should reclaim “all of its land.” The conversation expands to the consequences of polarized rhetoric, recent politically-motivated violence, the state of U.S. politics and the Democratic Party, and overarching themes of globalism, free speech, and climate policies. Rob Carson drives the discussion with humor, pointed commentary, and his signature irreverent style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Ukraine and Russia Comments: Paradigm Shift

• [20:44–22:23] Rob Carson recaps Trump's statement:
  • Trump declared Ukraine should recover all its land and gave the green light for NATO to shoot down Russian planes—a move characterized as “earth shattering.”
  • Carson’s takeaway: "Putin must have really pissed off Trump, brother." [21:07].
• Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer's analysis:
  • Trump’s comments marked a turning point, signaling deep frustration with Putin and a willingness to openly confront not just Russia, but also Europe’s complicity in funding the war.
  • Shaffer: “Right on the world stage, basically telling the Europeans, you're part of the problem.” [21:47].
  • Shaffer highlights Trump's unique approach: “[He's] leading a global effort...make every country on the planet great again by recognizing that there is a global order… create misery for the people of these countries.” [22:23].

2. The Ripple Effect: NATO, Europe, and Rhetoric Becoming Policy

• [23:40–24:19] Trump’s rhetoric v. policy:
  • Shaffer notes it’s not just talk—Trump’s willingness to follow up rhetoric with action is what “they’re really worried about.”
• [32:12] Russia’s "Paper Tiger" Status
  • Trump defines Russia as a "dangerous paper tiger," suggesting they’re weaker than portrayed, but still threatening.
  • Shaffer: “Russians’ position…is what’s ours is ours and what’s yours is negotiable.” [32:12].
  • “So now [Trump’s] going to go hard back at him...finally we got a guy who understands how to do it.” [32:48].
• Historical Comparison:
  • Carson and Shaffer liken Trump’s tactics to Ronald Reagan’s strategy against the Soviet Union, but argue Trump has “multiplied it by a hundred” [34:19].

3. Political Violence and the Blame Game

• Dallas ICE Facility Shooting ([01:32–02:05; 25:07])
  • Carson covers a breaking story: an attack on an ICE facility in Dallas, with “anti-ICE” messages on shell casings, linking political rhetoric to real-world violence.
  • Quote: “This is the monster they’ve created. The Democrat Party…have called people like Donald Trump Nazi fascist, ICE officers, Nazi fascist Gestapo…Charlie Kirk was murdered just two weeks ago because of this. And I'm done with it. Done with it.” [02:22–03:26].
• Lt. Col. Shaffer on rhetoric:
  • “It’s the other Democrats who are now constantly inciting violence…The whole mislabeling is creating the conditions for violence here.” [25:07].
  • Calls for “common sense Democrat control,” drawing parallel to calls for gun control [27:15].
  • Emphasizes that there are limits to free speech, specifically when political language incites violence. [27:39].
• Democratic Figures’ Rhetoric:
  • Audio is played of elected Democrats and commentators using language equating ICE with “Gestapo,” referencing mask-wearing agents, and public leaders like Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris. [26:00–26:39].
  • Carson summarizes: “This has resulted in blood…These same words…used on the shell casings of the shooter in Minneapolis, Charlie Kirk, and now…the killings in Dallas targeting ICE.” [26:40–27:15].

4. Culture War & Media Battles

• Jimmy Kimmel & Late Night Television ([11:12–15:24]):
  • Carson devotes substantial time mocking Jimmy Kimmel’s return to late night TV after a suspension for his handling of the Charlie Kirk incident.
  • Kimmel: “It was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man…nor…to blame any specific group.” [13:06–13:23].
  • Carson: “No apology to Trump supporters for you saying what you did, because you absolutely blamed it on Trump supporters.” [13:41].
  • Extended segment ridicules Kimmel’s emotional tone and compares him unfavorably to legendary host Jack Paar.
• Historical Parallels:
  • Carson replays a historic Jack Paar clip about censorship, drawing a contrast to modern media [16:15–18:21].
  • Concludes: “You're a pimple on Jack Parr's butt. Yeah, I said it. I said it.” [18:30].

5. Government Spending, the Democrats, and the Budget

• [08:15–10:02] Government Shutdown Showdown:
  • Carson and audio clips from Mike Johnson and Chuck Schumer debate the looming threat of a government shutdown.
  • Main talking points: alleged Democratic efforts to reinstate healthcare for illegal immigrants, support for liberal media outlets, and continued “massive” spending.
  • Carson’s verdict: “Screw your budget and screw your party. I wouldn't negotiate one little bit. And if you want to shut down the government, shut down the government.” [10:02].

6. Climate, Globalism, and Trump’s UN Critique

• [28:40-31:12] Trump’s Speech at the UN:
  • Carson and Shaffer share delight at Trump “shredding” the world’s green energy agenda at the United Nations.
  • Shaffer: “The green climate movement doesn’t understand climate…we’re getting ready…heading back into a net cooling phase because…the biggest contributor to global warming is the sun.” [29:30–30:12].
  • Fossil fuels as a “gift from God”: “The only renewable source of energy actually is fossil fuels. That’s it.” [30:37].
  • Carson: “You know what I call those windmills? Bird salad shooters.” [31:12].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Carson (On Dems & ICE):
  “This is the monster that they've created. The Democrat Party on a number of different fronts have called people like Donald Trump Nazi fascist ICE officers, Nazi fascist Gestapo... Charlie Kirk was murdered just two weeks ago because of this. And I'm done with it. Done with it.” [02:20–03:26]

• Trump (clip, on Ukraine):
  “Let them get their land back. So we'll see how it all works out.” [19:48]

• Shaffer (on Trump’s strategy):
  “He's leading a global effort…make every country on the planet great again by recognizing that there is a global order... All it does is create misery for the people of these countries.” [22:23]

• Shaffer (on Democratic rhetoric):
  “We don't need common sense gun control. We need common sense Democrat control. How would that look? Can we deport Democrats to, say, I don't know, Cuba?” [27:15]

• Carson (on media & late night):
  “You're a pimple on Jack Parr's butt. Yeah, I said it.” [18:30]

• Shaffer (on climate policy):
  “The only renewable source of energy actually is fossil fuels. That's it.” [30:37]

• Carson (on political realignment):
  “This is it for the Democrat Party... they better get off this ship, because this is the ship of evil. This is the ship of darkness, and you don't want to be on board.” [34:39]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:44] Carson recaps Trump’s Ukraine, NATO, and Russia comments
• [21:05] Lt. Col. Shaffer joins, analyzes Trump’s new tone and policy signals
• [23:40] Trump’s rhetoric meets action; European complicity discussed
• [25:07] Political violence and Democratic rhetoric dissected
• [29:30] Climate change, green energy critiques, and UN speech highlights
• [32:12] “Paper tiger” Russia and new strategies for NATO/Ukraine
• [34:39] Carson declares a “turning point” in political realignment

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Summary in the Show’s Tone

Rob Carson blends sharp-edged humor with urgent political commentary in this episode, unleashing on Democrats for their rhetoric, holding media figures to account, and celebrating what he sees as a Trump-led global turning of the tide on issues of war, sovereignty, climate, and “the world order.” Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, providing expert military analysis, sees Trump’s “game-changing” statements as the foundation for a new policy direction that terrifies both Moscow and Brussels. Together, Carson and Shaffer link cultural, media, and violent events into a narrative of a society at a crossroads—one on the verge of rejecting political and ideological extremes in favor of strength, sovereignty, and unapologetic action.

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(End of summary.)

Transcript

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Hold it. Now.

[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson Show. Our number, duh. Special guest at the bottom of the hour, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer's gonna be talking about Donald Trump's comments on Ukraine yesterday. Basically said given NATO permission to shoot down Russian planes and saying that the when it's settled, Ukraine will get back all of its. All of its land. So it sounds like they kind of pissed off Donald Trump. I'm thinking Vladimir Putin kind of, well, obviously really ticked off Donald Trump, you know, did a little backstabbing, said they were going to do something and then ended up, you know, bombing the snout out of Ukraine. I'm not taking sides on this. I'm not a big fan of Ukraine. I certainly am not a fan of the leader of Ukraine because half the money we sent him while Joe Biden was the president was siphoned off and spent on other things than. Than, you know, the fight, by the fight. So there you go. Anyway, this is happening today in Dallas. An ICE facility was shot. Three people shot. One killed. The shooter killed him. Her they self could been transgender for all we know. But this was an attack on the shell casings was written anti ICE slogans.

[Texas ICE Facility Director]

An officer, Texas for your support. This is the second time I've had to stand in front of you and talk about a shooter.

[Rob Carson]

This is the director of the Texas ICE facility.

[Texas ICE Facility Director]

At 1 of my facilities. And I think that the takeaway from all of this is that the rhetoric has to stop. There are people out there who are seeing what is being placed online. And they're coming in, they're doing acts of violence against ICE employees.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And they need to be held accountable, like Gavin Newsom.

[Gavin Newsom]

That's happening in the United States of America. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing. No due process.

[Rob Carson]

No. You're a lying sack of crap. Oversight zero account with veneers and hair gel. Billy.

[Gavin Newsom]

Happening in the United States of America today, people ask, well, is authoritarianism. You're being hyperbolic. We're being hyperbolic.

[Rob Carson]

If you're black and brown, you're being hyperbolic.

[Gavin Newsom]

Our community is here in this country. And so I.

[Rob Carson]

You are honestly.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Wow.

[Rob Carson]

I gotta tell you, anti ICE written on the shell casings. This after, you know, Kamala Harris and others started targeting ICE before Donald Trump was elected. They wanted to set the table because, you know, Donald Trump was gonna make all the illegals that Joe Biden allowed to come in across the southern border unvetted, gonna allow him to vote and stuff. Yeah, that's why they gave him all the free stuff. So the Democrat party again, they're like movie vampires. They're like movie vampires. They are a dragging, kicking, trying to drag us in hell with them. And we're not going from cash. Patel, FBI directed. This morning at about 7:00am Local time, an individual fired multiple rains rounds at a Dallas Texas ICE facility, killing one, wounding several others before taking his own life. FBI, dhs, ATF are on the ground with Dallas PD and state authorities while the investigation is ongoing. An initial review of the evidence shows the ideological motive behind this attack. One of the unspent shell casings recovered was engraved with phrase Anti ice. More updates forthcoming. These despicable politically motivated attacks against law enforcement are not a one off. We are only miles from Prairie Land, Texas where just two weeks ago an individual ambushed a separate ICE facility. Targeting, targeting their officers. Oh yeah. And then Jack Weed, who we just played, Gavin Newscomb, he, he signed into legislation a bill that would allow or tell law enforcement they couldn't wear masks. But the problem is it doesn't mean D word when it comes to federal officers. So it's moot. But this is what they've done. This is the monster that they've created. The Democrat Party on a number of different fronts have called people like Donald Trump Nazi fascist ICE officers, Nazi fascist Gestapo. Charlie Kirk, Nazi fascist white supremacist. Donald Trump was nearly killed twice. Charlie Kirk was murdered, was murdered just two weeks ago because of this. And I'm done with it. Done with it. It's time for the children to get a spanking. I mean it is just, it is time. They've run roughshod over our country. They have left damage, untold damage. They have partnered with the, the devil, including Antifa, among others. And I got to tell you, I'm just. We have to be done with it. We have to be done with it. This is not protected speech. If you hear another Democrat say fascist or Nazi about Donald Trump, his followers, his voters like me or, or you know, prominent conservative, they got to be called out. It has got to be stopped. It has got to be stopped. Rather than picking up the shell casings afterwards, the Nike needs to stop before it starts. By the way, just real quick because they're a terrific sponsor of this radio program. Birch Gold is offering you guys something if you have not invested in gold yet. All right, for now, through the end of this month, which now is only six days away. 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Oh, by the way, treasury posts unexpected surplus in June as tariff receipts surge. Oh my God. Put down your Wall Street Journal and pay attention. Oh my God. You were wrong about everything, you guys. You were so terrified that tariffs were going to destroy the economy. Terrified. All we asked was that the world give us a frickin break and compete fairly. How about that? $27 billion for one month, up from 23 billion in May and a 300% gain from June of 2024. Wow. Isn't that amazing? What Common sense and fairness. We have a real chief executive here. All right. George Bush liked to think he was a chief executive. He owned a baseball team, but really it was a terrible chief executive. Donald Trump is a chief executive. He did a thing called the art of the deal. I don't know if you knew that. You might want to pick that up because it's working. It's working pretty amazing. That said, the Democrats are pulling a lot of nonsense. They're looking for, you know, a new budget, right? And they're going to try the CR and all that. And the Democrats are threatening shut down here. Here's Mike Johnson. The Democrats are acting like they won something they don't have. They're not in the position to demand anything, but they're still demanding the same crap. Listen to Mike Johnson as we offered.

[Mike Johnson]

A totally clean short term CR to get that job done. Chuck Schumer saw that he returned a counteroffer that is filled with partisan wish list and poison pills and demands. It includes, for example, Brett, what Chuck Schumer is arguing for. He wants to reinstate free health care for illegal aliens.

[Rob Carson]

That is not going to happen. I don't have free health care for me.

[Mike Johnson]

He wants to add $500 million to prop up liberal media outlets.

[Rob Carson]

Going to happen. Screw NPR, PBS.

[Mike Johnson]

And he wants to add a massive $1.4 trillion spending hike to what should be a simple seven week stopgap funding measure.

[Rob Carson]

We can't do enough of that bullcrap. Enough of it. Enough and up. Enough. We ought to go back to the spending levels pre Covid. We ought to cut three and a half trillion off of our spending because that bleep is over. We've been suffering for years. That has got to end. And that's the next thing they're going to have to do is stop is start cutting spending. This is, oh, this is Chuck Schumer begging to meet with Donald Trump all of a sudden after calling a fascist and a Nazi and all that.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

This is going to be Donald Trump's shutdown.

[Rob Carson]

Okay, so there he is. Donald Trump shut down now. Now he tries to kiss Donald Trump's butt. That's a ready to work with the President. We're willing to sit down with him today. Tomorrow we'll even come to the golf course and sit down with him wherever.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

He wants to go. That's okay.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. The only problem is you don't sit down on a golf course. But you wouldn't know that because you're an idiot. Yeah. This is the same party that says this.

[Jack Parr]

And let me ask you tonight, do.

[Rob Carson]

You think Donald Trump is a fascist?

[Caroline Levitt]

Yes, I do. Yes, I do.

[Mike Johnson]

This guy's tendencies towards leaning towards dictatorship is un American.

[Caroline Levitt]

It is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous that Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler the man.

[Rob Carson]

Screw you and screw your budget and screw your party. I wouldn't negotiate one little bit. And if you want to shut down the government, shut down the government. I think most people wouldn't even care. All it's going to do is give a paid holiday with a with a delayed payday for government employees who already make 70% more than the rest of us and actually have retirement plans, which you and I don't have. A lot of us don't have retirement plans unless we set up on our own. We don't get pensions out here in the real world. Honestly, that you would try this nonsense when you have, you are not in a position to demand anything Democrat party. And honestly, after the shootings in Dallas this morning, I'd be treading real lightly because you have lit a fire. You guys have lit a fire with all this nonsense, all of this violent rhetoric and you've run rough shot over this country. And the murder of Charlie Kirk changed everything. And if you don't think that's going to impact the Democrat party who by the way uses the same language that was inscribed on the shell casing that murdered Charlie Kirk, you got another thing coming. You got another thing coming. And that's a butt kicking, by the way. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk is anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. This is not how an adult grieves the murderer of somebody called a friend. This is how a four year old mourns a goldfish.

[Rob Carson]

Okay, is Jimmy Kimmel the reason why he got suspended? It wasn't Donald Trump who did it, by the way. It was the, the network and its affiliate stations, 65 of which decided not to carry this Jack Weeds show last night. Here's the media last night. Oh, they were worked into a ladder. They thought this was going to be the biggest thing in late night television. It was a, it was a fart in an F5 hurricane. Breaking news on Jimmy Kimmel and autism.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Jimmy Kimmel. Coming back to late night television.

[Caroline Levitt]

ABC chose to bring back their low rating nighttime host. We are in for a monologue that will be a marker in late night show history.

[Rob Carson]

It's going to be in a moment. Yeah, no question.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

A huge moment in American history.

[Caroline Levitt]

One of the most pivotal moments in broadcast history.

[Rob Carson]

He will be delivering what is being dubbed the most anticipated monologue in late night in years. No, that's just crap, actually. It's all just crap. He was a petulant little moron and he's, he's made the show into an editorial sounding bird boy, bird about that board for his, his leftist politics. He has stricken conservative guests except for Mike Lindell. They put him in a claw toy machine to humiliate him. And then of course all of his punch lines are anti Trump and he's not a good person, he's not a funny person, but that's fine. I didn't want him pulled. I didn't even care. Nobody's watching him. He's getting beaten by. By Greg Gutfeld, and Greg Gutfeld doesn't have all the celebrities on that. This. This jerk does, you know, so, you know, who really cares? But here is old Jimmy Kimmel. Last night, he was putting on the tears like he did when Donald Trump kicked Kamala's butt.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

It was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, dear God.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

I don't.

[Rob Carson]

I don't think there's anything funny about it.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it was.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

You blame Trump supporters for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make. I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution, and it isn't.

[Rob Carson]

No apology to Trump supporters for you saying what you did, because you absolutely blamed it on Trump supporters. There's no doubt we had some new.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

Lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them.

[Rob Carson]

And, yeah, there you go. He did it. So there's no doubt about it at all. Here's a little bit more from Jimmy Kimmel on his return last night.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

They defended my right to poke fun at our leaders and to advocate for subjects that I think are important by allowing me to use their platform, and I am very grateful for that. With that said, I was not happy when they pulled me off the air on. I did not agree with that.

[Rob Carson]

And then you know what he did to show his insincerity? He went on to attack Donald Trump, who had nothing to do with him being sidelined for six days.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

The President of the United States made it very clear he wants to see me and the hundreds of people, people who work here, fired from our jobs.

[Rob Carson]

Our leader, he would be fine with it, but he didn't do it.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

Celebrates Americans losing their livelihoods because why.

[Rob Carson]

Didn'T you say anything about all the people who lost their jobs when Joe Biden was the president?

[Jimmy Kimmel]

He can't take a joke.

[Rob Carson]

He was.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

Somehow able to squeeze Colbert out of cbs. No, no.

[Rob Carson]

His ratings and they're bleeding money.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

That did it actually turned his sights on me.

[Rob Carson]

You guys have ruined Late Night.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

And now he's openly rooting for NBC to fire Jimmy Fallon and Seth Mart fires and the hundreds of Americans.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, me, too. Me, too. I'd like to see them fired because they destroyed late night, who work for.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

Their shows, who don't make millions of dollars. And I hope that if that happens or if there's even any hint of that happening, you will be 10 times as loud as you were this week. We have to speak out.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you made it back. Oh, that's so fantastic. I'm going to show you. I'm going to share some broadcast history with you. I wasn't alive when this happened, but there was a procession of late night that happened from the 50s through now. Started with Steve Allen. Steve Allen had a show and. And then he gave it up to Jack Par. Jack Par left and Johnny Carson took over, then Jay Leno and then Jack Weed over here, taken over. But here is Jack Parr in 1960, before I was born. And he did something actually brave because he was censored on his show. He made a joke about a toilet. I don't even remember exactly what it was. But, but, but he is. He was on a broadcast, you know, entity with affiliates that had licenses. And here is what he had to say when he left of his own volition.

[Jack Parr]

Last night I told a little story.

[Rob Carson]

And by the way, he was seen by like 50, 70 million people. Jimmy Kimmel will never be seen by that many people.

[Jack Parr]

That I thought was about as funny as anything I had ever been given. It was a story. I'm not going to go into it because they'll cut me off again. But it is not at all, in any sense of the word, an obscene story. True, the story perhaps should not be told, like at 8 o' clock on Sunday night, but at this hour it certainly could be told. It was very adult and very funny. 300 people in this audience laughed like they haven't laughed perhaps in some time. Of course, that's no excuses. But then I said, was it all right? You know, did anyone. Was anyone offended? It wasn't one voice. And frequently there are voices that are surprised. This was cut out of the show last night and I cannot understand why. Cutting it out is the right of NBC to do, but not so in some way. Telling you the content of it leaves a terrible impressions impression in your mind. Yes, I'm leaving the Tonight Show.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Jack Parr]

There must be a better way of making a living than this. There's a way of entertaining people without being constantly involved in some form of.

[Rob Carson]

Controversy, which this was when he was gigantic. Jimmy Kimmel will never be that. And here is what Jack Parr said when after three weeks, he returned with the greatest ratings of tonight. Of tonight's show history until Johnny Carson retired. Here's Jack.

[Jack Parr]

As I was saying before I was interrupted.

[Rob Carson]

And here's Jimmy Kimmel copying his words last night.

[Unknown Expert/Commentator]

Thank you.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

Anyway, as I was saying before I.

[Rob Carson]

Was interrupted, you're a pimple on Jack Par's butt. Yeah, I said it. I said it. You're a pimple on Jack Parr's butt. Unbelievable. Here's Gavin Newsom. I believe he was on last night with Stephen Colbert. Listen what he had to say about Donald Trump.

[Gavin Newsom]

This guy is flooding the zone. He's dominating the narratives. Facts don't seem to matter. And Democrats, frankly, have had a difficult time pushing back.

[Rob Carson]

And Democrats, you have ruined California. You've lost 130 billion on light rail that never happened. And 30 billion on homeless that was spent on NGOs that just basically squandered the money. Now you've got the highest homeless in history here. Listen to the end of this. Hold on one second. Because this is again bringing up the.

[Gavin Newsom]

The rhetoric from leadership, moral authority around the rest of the world. California is trying to assert itself on health policy. Same thing. We created this west coast collaborative. We're not going to listen to this guy. We're not going to listen to him trying to pronounce a cinema innocent or not going to sit there. This all that.

[Rob Carson]

He called Donald Trump an SOB last night. I'm done with this nonsense. We have got Lt. Col. Tony Shaver to talk about Donald Trump and Ukraine and Russia on the other side of this break. This is the Rob Carson Show. A good future.

[Unknown Expert/Commentator]

It is, Beckett. I think so. I think so. They're very enthusiastic in a lot of ways. It's been a terrible war. It should have ended and Russia should have stopped it. But they've been three and a half years and they've gotten that so far. So we'll see what happens. But the other side can fight, too. And they've proven that. Maybe it's a. It could be that Russia is a paper tiger. I don't know what they are. But three and a half years of fighting and killing Everybody, of killing 7,000 people a week for nothing. Nothing. So it's a very sad situation. But most of you have seen the recent statement I put out a little while ago, and I'm glad you got it. But I feel that way. I really do feel that way. Let them get their land back. So we'll see how it all works out. And in the meantime, I hear France is doing well and you're doing well. And he's Been my friend, and we've gotten along on just about every subject there is to get along with.

[Rob Carson]

Now, that is Donald Trump yesterday basically saying that Ukraine should get all of its land back. He also went and said that NATO should be able to shoot down Russian planes. Wow. That was kind of earth shattering. And the first person I thought of was Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer on this one. I reached out yesterday. He's kind enough to find time in his schedule to join us today. Colonel, welcome to the show, man. How are you?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

It's always great to join you. Thank you for having me.

[Rob Carson]

Putin must have really pissed off Trump, brother.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, Rob, he did. And I think it's to the point of frustration where he's basically threatened with a great deal of understanding the vulnerabilities of Putin. And this is where I think President Trump was hanging back, because he didn't really want to tell the truth about the Europeans funding the war, but he had to. This is a grand irony. It's like, I think he was trying to get Putin to agree to something without having to basically let the cat out of the bag that the Europeans are funding Vladimir Putin. Just saying, because that came out during the speech. We kind of heard him talk about it, but, man, oh, man, Rob, right on the world stage, basically telling the Europeans, you're part of the problem.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, brother.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

You're a closet Vladimir Putin supporter.

[Rob Carson]

Didn't you love that speech, brother? I talked to Blaine Holt yesterday in real time as the dang speeches happened. Blaine Holt's there and he is just laughing out loud because he gave them what fur. We've never seen. We've never seen an American president give this awful world order. What fur. And then, by the way, he wasn't talking to those people. He was talking to the people of those countries that have to endure their bullcrap.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So he is leading a global effort to bring maga. You know, make. Make America well, really kind of make. Make Poland great again. Make great again. Make every country on the planet great again. By recognizing that there is a global order that you and I have talked about a lot. This World economic forum agenda 2020 or 2030, whatever agenda it is. And he's calling them out because all it does is create misery for the people of these countries. And I think it's time for them to rise up and recognize that these political leaders, these climate. These climate crisis Nazis, these people who are trying to tell you that somehow gas is bad and green energy is good, all this stuff, it's all a fiction. And by the way, he called out this whole new green deal to the face. He called it out to the face of the guy that runs the United Nations. It was brilliant.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, it was fantastic. I was reading this piece by Niall Gardiner. End open borders, stop importing criminals, defend your sovereignty, fight Islamist extremism, stand up for Christianity in vastly expensive net zero climate policies, or your countries are going to hell. Oh, my God, that was an earthquake, man.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

He's going to follow it up now, I think, with policies which match the rhetoric, which is what they're really worried about. I mean, it's one thing, Rob, I think you and I would agree for some, a politician to stand up. You know, I had, I was in the meeting today here locally, and a political meeting. You know, you got to do political stuff. But in the end, what's important is, well, your rhetoric follow through my rhetoric just for those who vote for me, my rhetoric follows through with my action, my policy. Just saying. So Trump's going to do the same thing. And I think that's what they're most afraid of. It's like, no, no, no, this isn't just about the Trump calling him out now over the next three years, Rob, he's going to be implementing policies, rhetoric, and that's what they're really worried about.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know, I wrote you this morning, I sent you a thought that I had about the. I think we avoided the rapture with Donald Trump's election. I'm not saying it was just Donald Trump as this holy figure. I'm just saying that, you know, to survive another 250 years, we needed a baptism by fire. We need to expose all of the evil in our government. And then Donald Trump, they tried to murder him and he raised his hands to heaven. And I think God saved his life. I do. And I said that there would be a worldwide movement toward freedom and God. And then Charlie Kirk's assassination, murder, martyrdom, accelerated that to the speed of light. And I really think that we are. This is kind of a rapture for the left. They're going to be left behind and we're going to be leading the world toward enlightenment and freedom.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

So let me, let's talk about that for one second. Because of course, there was this horrific shooting in Dallas of the ICE facility. No ICE agents were. But the first thing the Democrats do, Chuck Schumer, you know, Chuck Schumer gets up there and says, oh, I don't know why they did this, but it's the guns. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's him. It's the other Democrats who are now constantly inciting violence. Like Gavin Newsom was just on, I think, with that. That knucklehead Kimmel last night talking about one of the late night shows, talking about how we need to strike out against those who are, quote, unquote, kidnapping people. Well, we're not kidnapping people. They're taking people who have broken the law off the street and turned into the country. So the whole Miss the mislabeling is creating the conditions for the violence here.

[Rob Carson]

Listen. Listen to this.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah.

[Caroline Levitt]

People are terrified for their lives and for their neighbors, folks getting snatched off the street by secret police who are wearing masks, who can. Who can offer no justification for why certain people are being taken and then detained.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and are trying to.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

Hide their identities from the American people.

[Caroline Levitt]

Yeah, they are disappearing people.

[Unknown Expert/Commentator]

One has to assume they're hiding something or they're hiding misbehavior because otherwise why would they be wearing masks and denying their identities?

[Rob Carson]

If everything is legitimate and proper, why.

[Unknown Expert/Commentator]

Are you wearing masks?

[Rob Carson]

They called them Gestapo. Hillary or not Hillary, but Kamala Harris called them Gestapo when she was. When she was a senator, when she was in. I should say, when she was vice president. And this has resulted in blood. This has resulted in the same words that Democrats used on the shell casings of the shooter in Minneapolis of those little precious babies of Charlie Kirk and now of the ice. Well, the attempted assassination, I presume, of ICE agents, but the killings in Dallas targeting ice. Go ahead.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

So, yeah, and so Chuck Schumer was out screaming about this oath, about the guns. No, look, let me go on record here to be the first to call for this, hopefully become a nationwide movement. Rob, that you'll lead. We don't need common sense gun control. We need common sense Democrat control. How would that look? Can we deport Democrats to say, I don't know, Cuba?

[Rob Carson]

But you know, Tony, on a serious note, there are limits. There are limits to the First Amendment. And these sons of bees need to be removed from any committee and even driven out of Congress. Even driven out of Congress. This is criminal behavior. This is. This is a cry crying fire in a crowded theater times 10 because they're putting the damn words they say on shell casings. You know, they went after Elon Musk. They called him a fascist and a Nazi. And the. And the. The jackbooted thugs that the democr. The party has whipped into a frenzy intentionally are acting out. They did it in the summer of 2020. They did it the day that Donald Trump was inaugurated the first time. And enough is enough. It has to stop. Tony, can you hold on? I want to get a little more into what's happening with Russia and Ukraine and Trump and what Donald Trump started yesterday. If you'll hold on, please. Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer on the Rob Carson show. We'll take a break and come back. Don't go anywh.

[Unknown Expert/Commentator]

The primary effect of these brutal green energy policies has not been to help the environment, but to redistribute manufacturing and industrial activity from developed countries that follow the insane rules that are put down to polluting countries that break the rules and are making a fortune. They're making a fortune.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. He really shredded the. The. The people who have run roughshod over the world with their nonsense of restricted free speech force this green energy crap down our throat. Oh, my God, it was so glorious. Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer. I'm still just. I talked to Blaine Hole yesterday. I said, I'm gonna pop some popcorn, I'm gonna watch this speech. And I did it. I did it last night, man. It was epic. It was just fun.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. So I want to hit this, and I think your audience may remember I've got a degree, actual degree, from Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio, environmental studies. And so I've said for years that first off this, the green climate movement doesn't understand climate. They're constantly overreacting to what is essentially weather. To understand climate, Rob, you have to study 10 to 11,000 year blocks of time.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

We haven't even had. But we kind of know what the. So we're right now getting ready. We're heading back into a net cooling phase because, you know, surprise, surprise, the biggest contributor to global warming is the sun.

[Rob Carson]

I don't imagine that. Is that what, that big. Is that that big shiny thing in the sky? Is that that big shiny thing? Oh, my. It's just always been ridiculous.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

But one of the things I want to make a point of is that fossil fuel is the most effective, the most amazing thing that God gave us to run our civilization.

[Rob Carson]

Yes. And it is a gift from God. It is a gift from God. It's organic, for God's sake.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

And by the way, it renews the earth, builds it. So the only renewable source of energy actually is fossil fuels. That's it. All this. You know, I live in Chowan County. We have the tallest wind turbines in the country.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Bar none. And they do nothing. They will never generate the power that they've been promised. They've been heavily subsidized by the state of North Carolina federal government. Oh, by the way, we're supposed to get money out of it as federal officials. I mean, as county officials, we're never going to see it because they literally lied every step of the way to get these things implemented. And so thank God for President Trump calling out the whole sham.

[Rob Carson]

You know what I call those windmills? Bird salad shooters. Yeah, they're bird salad shooters. And they, and they kill whales. They drive the undersea life like whales insane by pounding their ears and their ability to recognize sonar and driving them insane and driving them on and killing them. It's. It's absolutely awful. It's absolutely awful. All you Whole Foods shoppers ought to appreciate that fossil fuel is organic, all right. They might even be vegan, for all we know. So you ought to like that. Back to Donald Trump and talking about the Russia in Ukraine. He. He said that NATO should be able to shoot down Russian planes. Now, obviously he's pissed because Putin, you know, met him, shook his hand, all that, and then stabbed Trump in the back by, you know, resuming all these strikes, in fact, upping the ante and all of that. Donald Trump wanted to trust him and he, and he betrayed his trust. He has also said that Russia is a paper tiger. I believe that, too. A dangerous paper tiger. But where are we going to go with this? What's going to happen now?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

So President Trump has learned the lesson, which I've talked about a lot, which is basically the Russians position on everything is what's ours is ours and what yours is negotiable. Just saying it's consistent. It goes back. I've been mentored by the best, the Reagan folks. So I think President Trump learned the hard way. This is the way the Russians are, period. So you got to understand that. Now he does. So now he's going to go hard back at him. He's got to do the stuff to basically intimidate the Russians to the point of where they collapse from within. That's what he's doing, what should have been done three years ago. And finally we got a guy who understands how to do it, and that's what he's going to do, brother.

[Rob Carson]

I told my audience, I said that you're not going to be able to recognize the profundity of Donald Trump's election for years. And, man, look at what's coming at us, man. It's like flying through a locust swarm. My God, your windshield. You can't even See, because all this stuff is coming this way, and you go, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is happening. It's happening, Tony. This is. This is amazing.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. One of my. One of my colleagues said, oh, this is creating chaos. Like. Yes, yes, it is. And it's beautiful, dude.

[Rob Carson]

When I was in high school, I remember Ronald Reagan, he was joking around, there was a mic wasn't on. He goes, testing, 1, 2, 3. Will begin bombing Russia or the Soviet Union in. In minutes or whatever. And everybody was freaking out, just freaking out. And I was a little concerned because I was just an uninformed high school student who never voted before. But it turns out that was off mic. But Donald or Ronald Reagan, he and Pope JP And Margaret Thatcher and Lech Walesa brought down the Soviet Union with words and by outspending and defense and a few other things. Go ahead.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Exactly. He's gone back to strength. You know, strength is what we need to show, you know, the Department of War. That's. That's a purposeful name change, you know?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

So, yeah, you've got to show strength, and you can. You dare not show weakness, period. You just dare not show weakness. And he gets it. So Reagan was like that, too. So basically, he's taken the best of Reagan. I'm still a Reagan guy, don't get me wrong.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, I know, I know.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

He's taken. He's taken the best of Reagan and modernizing it to the 21st century.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, but, you know, he is. I mean, listen, you're not supposed to blaspheme Ronald Reagan. I am not. But I'm going to tell you, compared to Reagan, Trump is taken Reagan and multiplied it by a hundred.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

I agree. I agree. And I feel mentors with a lot of his. No, I get it.

[Rob Carson]

Hey, Reagan was ballsy for his time. It was a different time. And you had parties that could talk to each other. Donald Trump has undergone constant attacks, trying to put in prison, trying to take him off the ballot, trying to back her up. All of that. All of that. And now I got to tell you this. This Charlie Kirk and this shooting in Dallas, I think, brother, this is. This is it for the Democrat Party. And I think that people are going to start streaming away from the Democrat Party, maybe not going Republican, but they better get off this ship, because this is the ship of evil. This is the ship of darkness, and you don't want to be on board.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

No. John Fetterman is as close as they have to Tip o', Neill, and he's been the One also calling them out on the very thing. Just said that our party. That that is their party. Not our party, but our party. Speaking as John Fetterman is on the direction that will. We'll see its room. And he's right. And he's right. So figure out how to fix it.

[Rob Carson]

Before we got to. We got to run, bro. But I appreciate you finding the time today. I had so many comments. I had so many comments on, on the chat, on all of the social media. Tony, we listened to Tony. We love Tony when he has a. You always have to listen, stop and listen to what he says on these things. So thanks for taking the time for us.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Thank you, Rob. Always love you. Love you, brother.

[Rob Carson]

God bless you, bro. Take care of yourself. Let's do a break. This is the Rob Carson Show. I think we need to hear this piece of comedy that Jim Gossett did for us today because Donald Trump went into the United nations yesterday and. And created a firestorm for good. And Jim Gossett took the president's voice and did this. And you'll only hear it on the Rob Carson Show.

[Jim Gossett]

The s collator broke. The prompter stopped before I spoke. The UN had it in for me but they were too blind to see.

[Rob Carson]

And he kicked some butt.

[Jim Gossett]

And at the UN I was on fire. Letting Europe have it was my desire. They could not stop me. I was on fire. Was so on fire.

[Rob Carson]

Jim. Gossip.

[Jim Gossett]

The United nations received my hire of their games. I'd begun to tire so I showed things up.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, he did.

[Jim Gossett]

I was on fire.

[Rob Carson]

He was.

[Jim Gossett]

Was so on fire. Was so on fire.

[Rob Carson]

America is back. This is Caroline Levitt talking about the crowd to see Donald Trump.

[Caroline Levitt]

The room was absolutely packed to the walls. Every single leader showed up for President Trump's speech today and they heard him loud and clear. And I am proud to work for President Trump every day, Jesse. But I was especially proud watching the President of the United States of America bring common sense to an organization that has made no sense for far too long. And the president gave some tough love. He said, you are all destroying your own countries and the United States of America was just being destroyed by one of your own. He took one of your own. A globalist in Joe Biden who had no idea what he was doing. The president took a sledgehammer to the failing globalist world order. He talked about how all of these countries need to have pride in themselves like we do here in the United States of America. They should be proud of their own heritage and culture. How do you make sure that you are a sovereign state, not just being a decaying nation state because of the globalist world order. You have strong borders and a robust domestic energy production and law and order within your own country. Those are all things the president is obviously doing here.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. That is amazing. Your witnesses witnessing history, guys. I said that. By the way, truth be told, on Rumble, his daughter's having a birthday. Her name is Mary. She's 48. Man. You must have started early there. Truth be told, last hour, the Rob Carson show, including YouTube backing off censorship, but I'm. I'm not so forgiving. That's coming up next. Don't go anywhere.