Meet the Puppet Masters: How the AutoPen Ran America

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Meet the Puppet Masters: How the AutoPen Ran America
Date: October 29, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guests: Thane Rosenbaum (legal analyst, law professor), DSA Representative
Theme: Examining the revelations of the "Biden AutoPen Presidency" Oversight Committee report, the manipulation of presidential authority, cover-ups by top aides, and the infiltration of radical elements into mainstream politics.

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Episode Overview

This episode uncovers the explosive findings of the House Oversight Committee's report on the so-called "Biden AutoPen Presidency," revealing systemic efforts by President Biden's aides to govern through executive actions without his direct involvement. Rob Carson delves into the implications of these revelations, drawing analogies to historical political manipulation and discussing how radical groups infiltrate traditional political institutions. With characteristic humor and indignation, Carson and guests examine the strategies, players, and cultural narratives shaping current American politics.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The "Biden AutoPen Presidency" Report

[01:20–13:33]

• Blockbuster Report Released: Oversight Chairman James Comer released a report revealing that many executive actions, including pardons, were signed by autopenned signature without direct written authorization from President Biden ([01:20]).
• Implications: Every such executive action could be rendered void if not authorized by Biden himself, creating unprecedented legal and constitutional questions.
• Cover-up Alleged: Carson observes, “We knew it. When he was running in 2020, I knew that he wasn't going to make it a second term.” He accuses the media and Biden’s circle of knowingly covering up Biden’s decline ([01:57]).
• Aides Exercised Authority: Biden’s aides allegedly ran executive functions, with particular mention of Jill Biden running cabinet meetings and decisions being made without the President’s involvement.

Notable Quote:

"We knew it. When he was running in 2020, I knew that he wasn't going to make it a second term... They already knew his brain was gone. But they got so much accomplished with the auto pen."
— Rob Carson ([01:57])

2. Committee Investigation and Testimonies

[04:46–12:52]

• Aides and Physicians Plead the Fifth: Senior aides, Dr. O’Connor (the White House physician), and others repeatedly declined to answer committee questions on the grounds of the Fifth Amendment and physician-patient privilege ([04:46–05:49]).
• Public Deception: The report claims that Biden’s inner circle sought to deceive the public and covered up his decline by misrepresenting his health, refusing cognitive exams, and misusing the auto pen.
• Political Interests at Play: Carson points out that advisors like Michael Donilon stood to make massive bonuses if Biden stayed in office ([08:02]).
• Media Complicity: Carson rails against media personalities for ignoring Biden’s condition, calling out individuals by name: “Joe Scarborough should be embarrassed to show his face on television again… Honestly, he has no shame” ([14:20]).

Notable Quote:

“This is the biggest scandal in American political history – that a president was unfit, and people kept him in office so they could get things done without his approval.”
— Rob Carson ([12:52])

3. Whose Hand Was on the AutoPen?

[11:03–12:24]

• Chain of Custody Broken: Committee members say there’s no evidence Joe Biden was directly involved or present for the signing of executive orders and pardons – staffers went weeks, months, or years without communicating directly with Biden ([11:57–12:33]).

Notable Quote:

“No one who authorized or physically pressed the auto pen ever heard directly from Joe Biden… There are no notes, there's no chain of custody.”
— Investigator/Committee Member ([11:57])

4. The “Puppet Masters” Theory and Obama’s Role

[15:47–17:49]

• Obama as Shadow President: A pre-recorded Obama interview is played, in which Obama half-jokes about wanting a third term via a “front man” with an earpiece ([15:47–16:36]).
• Satirical Parody: Carson launches into a musical parody, lampooning the idea that Obama and his circle “pull the strings” behind Biden ([17:05]).

Notable Quote:

“If I could make an arrangement where I had a stand-in, a front man, and they had an earpiece in… I could sort of deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking…”
— Barack Obama (interview clip) ([16:12])

5. Socialist Infiltration and the Cuckoo Analogy

[21:53–23:17]

• DSA as Political Cuckoo: The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) are compared to cuckoo birds—using the Democratic Party’s nest to hatch their own agenda before pushing the parent party’s “chicks” out ([22:04]).
• DSA Strategy: DSA candidates run as Democrats in safe districts, exploit the label for legitimacy, but govern as socialists, controlled by party enforcers—not by their voters ([22:42]).

Notable Quote:

“The DSA is the cuckoo inside the Democratic Party.”
— DSA Representative ([22:05])

6. Radical Islam and Political Opportunism

[24:43–29:51]

• Mandami’s Crossover Appeal: The group discusses NYC candidate Zohran Mamdani, noting his radical leftwing and pro-LGBT stances, which seem at odds with his support from radical imams ([24:43]).
• Strategic Deception: Thane Rosenbaum explains that strategic lying to outsiders is sanctioned in radical Islamist ideology. Left-wing “useful idiots” don’t understand the long-term game; radicals ally with left causes for power, not principle ([25:09]).
• Examples of Encroachment: The conversation notes growing Islamist influence in Europe and American cities—Dearborn, MI as a case study ([28:31]). The on-air anecdote about a Christian minister forced out of Dearborn is cited as an example of intolerance for dissent.

7. LGBTQ and Progressive Jews: Useful Idiots?

[35:09–36:47]

• Campaign Ads & Identity Politics: Carson reacts with disgust to a Mandami campaign ad touting LGBT and rabbinical support, decrying what he sees as “self-loathing liberals” ([35:24]).
• Social Justice as a New Religion: Rosenbaum laments how for some on the Jewish left, “social justice” trumps Judaism: “If you say the word social justice and activism, there’s a segment… that goes do cartwheels. They could care less about Passover.” ([36:03])
• Historical Parallels: Carson draws a grim analogy: “They would help load the train cars.”

8. New York City’s Radical Candidates and Empty Promises

[37:44–40:37]

• Mandami’s Unfunded Proposals: Carson ridicules Mandami’s promises—rent freezes, free bus fare, universal childcare—with no viable plan for funding. He brands Mandami as “more dangerous than you could possibly imagine” ([37:59–40:37]).
• Political Satire: Ends with a musical satire highlighting his view that Mandami is a threat to NYC’s stability ([40:03–40:37]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “What an indignity you served up to us and we couldn’t say anything about it because you called our speech disinformation and misinformation. This is why you’re dead, Democrat Party.”
  — Rob Carson ([01:57])

• “We decline to answer based upon physician patient privilege and in reliance on my right under the Fifth Amendment of the constitution.”
  — Dr. O’Connor, via committee transcript ([04:46–05:13])

• “You would have ‘Weekend at Bernie’d’ him to get him across the finish line. If he died, they would have lied about him dying. I swear to God.”
  — Rob Carson ([17:59])

• “This is the biggest scandal in American political history…”
  — Rob Carson ([12:52])

• “The DSA is the cuckoo inside the Democratic Party.”
  — DSA Representative ([22:05])

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Key Timestamps

• 01:20 - Narrative summary of the Oversight Committee’s findings on the Biden auto pen presidency
• 04:46-05:49 - Committee questioning; repeated pleading of the Fifth by officials and aides
• 07:43 - “Unprecedented” use of the auto pen; lack of legal precedent
• 11:03-12:33 - Committee members explain no direct contact with Biden for executive actions
• 15:47-16:36 - Obama’s infamous “third term” interview clip; Carson’s satirical reaction
• 17:05-17:49 - Musical parody about “pulling the strings” behind Biden
• 22:05-22:42 - The DSA "cuckoo" analogy and how they use the Democratic Party
• 24:43-25:09 - Radical Islam’s political strategy outlined by Thane Rosenbaum
• 28:31 - Dearborn, Michigan minister expelled for criticizing pro-Hezbollah street naming
• 35:24-36:47 - Mandami ad with rabbis; Rosenbaum’s commentary on progressive Jews’ priorities
• 37:59-40:37 - Carson critiques Mandami’s campaign promises and their feasibility

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Flow and Tone

Rob Carson maintains a feisty, irreverent, and often satirical tone throughout. The show blends serious political analysis with parody and biting humor, calling out media figures, political operatives, and radical activists alike. Carson invites debate and scorn for what he sees as willful blindness or deception on both the left and among mainstream Democrats, framing the issues in bold, populist terms.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is essential listening for those seeking a critical perspective on recent political revelations regarding the Biden administration, exposing procedural manipulation at the highest levels, the encroachment of radical groups within mainstream politics, and how media narratives shape public understanding. It’s a blend of whistleblower-style reporting and sharp cultural-political satire.

Skip this one if:
You’re looking for a neutral, detached analysis.
Listen if:
You want robust conservative commentary, ridicule of political elites, and insightful—though polemical—breakdowns of current political crises.

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Transcript

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[DSA Representative]

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[Thane Rosenbaum]

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[DSA Representative]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Rob Carson]

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[Thane Rosenbaum]

Could calm down a little.

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[Investigator/Committee Member]

Let's meet at the facts.

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[Narrator/Reporter]

Oversight Chairman James Comer released a blockbuster report now on the Biden auto pen presidency. And this report includes 47 hours worth of transcripts and testimony revealing that every executive action signed by the auto pin without written authorization from President Biden should be voided. This is an unprecedented situation in American politics and government. The actions of President Biden simply were not all his own actions. And there are major implications to that, including all the pardons that he signed.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. And you knew it. And I knew it. And everybody knew it. And the media knew it. And they lied about it. Emperor was naked. Everybody knew this. We knew it. When he was running in 2020, I knew that he wasn't going to make it a second term. And I also told you that they would push his corpse over the finish line for a second term. Even though they knew he was not going to be able to do a second term. They already knew his brain was gone. But they got so much accomplished with the auto pen. So much accomplished while he was on vacation or putting a lid on things at nine in the morning and letting Jill Biden run cabinet meetings. Yeah. What. What an indignity you served up to us and we couldn't say anything about it because you called our speech disinformation and misinformation. This is why you're dead, Democrat Party. This is why you're dead. The House Committee on Oversight in Government Reform released a staff report called the Biden Auto Pin Presidency Declined Delusion Deception. Biden's Condition deteriorated. His aides exercised presidential authority and facilitated executive actions without his direct authorization, including misusing the auto pin and fail to properly document decision making processes. This is why the southern border opened up. This is why that insanity happened. It would make no sense at all to stuff a Trojan horse with illegals unvetted for disease or criminal activity across the southern border. Unless somebody who wanted to destroy the country was able to do it. Chairman James Comer sent a letter to the U.S. attorney Pam Bondi requesting the U.S. department of justice conduct a comprehensive review of all executive actions. As Americans saw President Biden's decline with their own eyes, Biden's inner circle sought to deceive the public, cover up his decline, took unauthorized executive actions with the auto pin that are now invalid. Our report reveals how key aides colluded to mislead the public. Their extraordinary measures they took to sustain the appearance of presidential authority as Biden's capacity to function independently diminished. When he was walking off stage and shaking hands with dead people. Oh man. I'm just. You sobs. You sobs who tried to tell us and Corinne Jean Pierre is walking around. I have no idea. Shut your mouth. But I'm a black lesbian. Yeah, I don't even care. I don't even give a crap. You're a filthy liar. Executive actions performed at the White House signed by auto pen are null and void. U.S. department of justice to conduct a full review of these executive actions scrutinized key Biden aides who took the fifth to hide their participants participation in the COVID up, including his doctor and his inner circle. Dr. O', Connor, were you ever told to lie about the President's health on the advice of counsel? All you got to do is say no, bro.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

We declined to answer based upon physician patient privilege and in reliance on my.

[Rob Carson]

Right under the fifth amendment of the constitution. And I sit here. I mean Putin. I said no. I'm sorry. Salinsky. Dr. O', Connor, did you ever believe the President was unfit to execute his duties as President on the advice of counsel I must respect. All you gotta do is say now.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

Bro, we decline to answer based on the physician patient privilege and in reliance.

[Rob Carson]

My right under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. Mr. Bernal, did any unelected official or family member of President Joe Biden execute the duties of the presidency on the advice of counsel? I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

Ms. Thomasini, did Joe Biden, a member of his family or anyone at the.

[Rob Carson]

White House ever instruct you to lie regarding his health at any time, including but not limited to in your testimony to Congress today.

[DSA Representative]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my fifth Amendment rights under the cons.

[Rob Carson]

This is a major scandal. Robert her investigated Joe Biden taking tens of thousands of classified top secret documents and keeping in his garage and other locations and he said that he wouldn't bring charges because no jury would look at Joe Biden and not see a pathetic old man with a bad memory. In other words, he is incompetent to stand trial. Biden's doctor refused to perform a cognitive exam on the president. Civil war broke out amongst ex Joe Biden Democrat staffers after he performed woefully at the 2024 presidential debate against Trump. Congress report on Tuesday lays bare the top Biden aides wanted the octogenarian to cling to power and steamroll ahead with his flagging presidential run in which loyalists expressed concern over the Democrats condition and thought he should hang it up. Biden's chief of staff Jeff Seitz, including told the committee that he and a cohort and aides including former National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, State Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo and Veterans Affairs Secretary Dennis McCullough had all expressed concerns over Biden staying in the race after his poor debate performance because it was obvious and they would look like fools if they stayed behind him. They were trying to cover their own butts. They knew that it was a problem before, but it just became so obvious it couldn't be denied anymore. They couldn't lie about it. The lies became worthless. The former five Nate also asked Dr. Kevin O', Connor, former physician to the president, to do a workup of medical exams after the debate. O' Connor refused to answer questions from the GOP panel. Pleading the Fifth. He refused to answer whether he was instructed to lie about Biden's health and if the president was fit to be president. Here's Mike Johnson about how unprecedented this is in our history. We had the 25th amendment should have been used. Kamala Harris should have led that. But of course she dropped the ball like she did being the border czar.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Nothing this incredible and insane has happened before. This was not something that the forefathers anticipated. It's unprecedented. There is no legal precedent because no, no previous president had an auto pin or had the audacity to have people signing things on their behalf when they didn't even know what was in it.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it's unbelievable. It is unbelievable. And the people who carry this water, including the liberal media. This is why you're all dead. By the way, CBS began laying off people today. I'm not sure if Gayle King is going to be laid off, but if that's the case, then they're going to have a no Kings Day. I just made up that. I just made that up. This report is based on 14 depositions, transcribed interviews with key Biden aids. Some of the key findings. The Biden decline in cover up. The oversight committee found substantial evidence that President Joe Biden experienced significant, significant mental and physical decline during his presidency. While senior White House officials actively sought to conceal his deterioration, top advisors and his physician undertook coordinated efforts to mislead the public using scripted messaging, restricted access and tightly controlled appearances. That's why they hustled him out after the press conference, because they wanted to, you know, make sure that he couldn't answer any questions or say something embarrassing. Key advisors, including senior strategist Michael Donilon, stood to gain financially. If Biden would have won the presidential election, he would have gotten $4,000 or $4,000,000 bonus. Did you know that? He admitted that yesterday? He admitted it. And stood to gain financially and politically for maintaining President Biden's candidacy and suppressing evidence of his decline. They were going to put a man in office again who had no ability to be the President of the United States. Gaslighting the American public over concerns about Biden's debate performance and cognitive decline. And the media carried the water. Political interference and medical decisions, failure of medical oversight, all of these things. The guy should have been removed from Office by the 25th Amendment. Anita Dunn revealed that political advisors interfered with decisions regarding President Biden's medical evaluations, explicitly rejecting calls for cognitive testing to protect his reelection prospects. They were going to put him in office. They were going to put him in office again. They were going to wheel that corpse across the finish line. Chairman Comer recommends that the District of Columbia Board of Medicine review actions taken by Dr. O' Connor while serving as the White House physician to President Biden for any potential wrongdoing by the. In the. In the medical care of the President. Dr. O' Connor produced or misled medical reports. The American people. Another finding. Exercise presidential authority by Biden aides making executive action signed by auto pin invalid. Senior Biden staff exercise presidential authority or facility Facilitated executive actions without direct authorization from the president himself. They're not elected. Misuse of the auto pin and failures in documentation and decision making processes. Executive actions were executed without written authorization or clear record of the president's approval, the committee identified irregularities in the. Irregularities in the issuance of pardons and commutations during the final days of the Biden administration. And I hope and pray to God that all of these become absolutely, absolutely void. Null and void. Null and void. Here is Jim Comey. Comer. Comey. Which one's Comer? Comer. Comey. Comey. Yes. The Republican. Yes.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

And I think that the DOJ needs to take this and run. John, we've handed this to Pam Bondi on a silver platter. We did all the heavy lifting. We've done the deposition.

[Rob Carson]

He's talking to John Solomon.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

We've combed through the emails. I mean, this is the, the hard, tedious work of an investigation. Now it's up to her to bring these people in. If there's anything in the report that's inaccurate, if there's anything in the deposition that we reported that are mischaracterized, now here's your opportunity to try to defend the, the, the other position. If not, then the report is 100% accurate.

[Rob Carson]

This is why they tried to put Donald Trump in jail and bankrupting him and take him off the ballot and murder him. This is why. One of the many reasons why these filthy, rotten, corrupt SOBs. My God in heaven. Here is a little bit more from. From Jim Comey.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

No one saw Joe Biden. No one who authorized the auto pin or even gave the authorization to use the auto pin. No one who authorized auto pin or actually physically manually pressed the power button on auto pin ever heard directly from Joe Biden. And furthermore, there are no notes, there's no chain of custody that would show that Joe Biden was involved in any meetings where they discussed the pardon process. I mean, this is appalling.

[Rob Carson]

Did say that Hunter was present there, and I'm thinking pay for play might have been involved because, you know, he wasn't selling a lot of paintings.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

And everyone in America saw, really, during the debate and during the last few months of the Biden administration, this was a president in decline. The staffers confirmed that they would go weeks, months, and even years without communicating with Joe Biden. This is a massive cover up. And what we determined was it's the.

[Rob Carson]

Biggest scandal in American political history that a president of the United States was mentally unfit to be the president. And there were people actively working to keep him in office because they could get things done without his approval, without congressional approval, and they could lurch the country majorly leftward. And think of the damage they did. Think of the damage they did trying to fundamentally Change America. Yeah. And I'm pointing my direction at Barack Obama, 1,000%. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Relentlessly slowing the spread of the stupid every day.

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Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth. And f you if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden is the best Biden ever.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

She knows.

[Rob Carson]

She knows. So long as he was denied.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.

[Rob Carson]

President Biden has a photographic memory. His understanding and mastery of a complicated geopolitical situation is remarkable.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

Jackie, are you here?

[Rob Carson]

Where's Jackie? I didn't think she was going to be here.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

I was sitting, you know, two feet.

[Rob Carson]

From him across the table, and he.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Was, you know, intense.

[Rob Carson]

I tell you what, you know, I can't imagine being so profoundly wrong and being embarrassed so badly that you would want to show your face on television again. Joe Scarborough should be embarrassed to show his face on television again. Honestly, he has no shame at all. Everybody on msnbc, none of them have shame. They're awful people. You know, Michael Steele has no shame. I met him with meeting Rush Limbaugh. I'm embarrassed that he even shook Rush Limbaugh's hand years and years ago. Honestly, what an absolute embarrassment. And now we know Joe Biden, he was not fit to be the president. We knew it and they lied about it.

[Investigator/Committee Member]

That's when we brought Dr. O' Connor in, the White House physician, and we asked him the first question. Dr. O', Connor, were you ever told to lie about Joe Biden's health? And he pled the Fifth Amendment. We had so many questions about the mental fitness. What we found in the investigation also was the fact that the President Biden's staff talked about whether or not they should give him a cognitive test. And then according to the staffers, they ultimately declined, decided to not give him a cognitive test. Now, that makes no sense. If you wanted to prove to the skeptics in the media and the skeptics.

[Rob Carson]

I want to find out who signed those executive orders and I want them to go to damn jail. I want to go to. I want him to go to jail. I do. I do. I do want to see convictions for sure. And here is the puppet master himself.

[Interviewer]

People would ask me, knowing what you know now, do you wish, like, you had a sec. A third term?

[Rob Carson]

He does this on purpose, by the way. He does like The Mao ornament. He does it with a wink and a nod to the people who follow him. Because he knows, he knows, they know he knows that nobody's going to go after him. None of the media will because they're too busy kissing his butt. They would never challenge him.

[Interviewer]

And I. I used to say, you know what, if. If I could make an arrangement where I had a. I had a stand in a front man or front woman and they had an earpiece in and I was just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff and then I could sort of deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking and.

[Rob Carson]

Or tell them which documents to sign with the auto pin to do the kind of stuff you wanted to do to the United States of America. Yeah. And. And you did. For four years. You did fundamentally change America. But we won. This is Jim Gossett.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Obama is Biden's boss. I don't think Biden knows what's happening, to be honest with you. I think that Obama is calling these shots.

[Rob Carson (voiceover or ad voice)]

Joe's got strings. No, he's not free in my control, he will always be. I call the shots and I tell Joe which way he should go.

[Rob Carson]

I did this last year.

[Rob Carson (voiceover or ad voice)]

I pull the strings on Joe and tell him what he has to do. He cannot act alone. Don't trust Joe, would you? We put joke and beat. Cause we knew he'd do anything we told him to. I've been in charge from the first day. I tell Joe what to say. Can't let them and Jude do an independent thing. Cause as I'm sure you know, he's bump up at on a stream.

[Rob Carson]

Like.

[Rob Carson (voiceover or ad voice)]

Valerie and like Michelle. We all know that Joe's not well. One day we're going to end all doubt and push Joe Biden out.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. And he was pushed out. He was. They wanted to push him across the finish line. They would have Weekend at Bernie'd him to get him across the finish line. If he died, they would have lied about him dying. I swear to God. I swear to God. I absolutely believe that we're gonna be talking about Zohrad Mandami. He's much scarier than you think. If you want to go to my substack right now, go to Rob Carson show on substack. I wrote a piece last night in the middle of the night, as I'm want to do. Don't sleep very well these days. But I wrote a piece as to why he's promising all these things with no ability to pay. And he's he's, he's radical. Imam still love him even though he's completely down with the LGBTQIA plus stuff. And that would get them murdered in Arab countries. Why, why, why, why did the imam say, that's no big deal? Read the substack piece. You'll get it. We'll talk to Thane Rosenmom about that in a second. Every day there's a new way to trick you. From tech scams to data breaches. I got one here a minute ago. This woman says, would you like to meet at the library cafe? And I don't recognize. I said, who is this? And then she goes. And then I went, you're a scammer. And she goes, no, this is Sarah. And I said, bleep you. I don't know anybody named Sarah. That was on my phone just today. I hope she wasn't a hot girl named Sarah. But it wasn't. It was a scam, thank you very much. That's why you need Webroot Total protection Fast. Lightning fast. Antivirus to identify theft. Protection with dark web monitoring, secure VPN and unlimited cloud backup. Webrew Total protection helps defend every part of your digital life. I've got it on my phone and both my computers with up to $1 million in fraud, expense reimbursement, 24 US based customer support. US based. Thank you very much. You're backed by powerful protection that's built for today's threats. Like girls named Sarah trying to have dinner with you that you don't know because she's a scammer. Cybersecure with 60% off Webroot total protection go to webroot.com Carson for 60% off. 60% off. Go to webroot.com Carson do it today. I got it on mine. And you know, like I said, I hope it wasn't a hot girl named Sarah, but I don't know anybody named Sarah. And, and please, I don't think Sarah, if she's hot, would be interested in me, to be quite honest. There you go. Go to webroot total protection today. Webroot.com Carson 60% off. Thane Rosenbaum to talk about Zoran Mandami. Much scarier than just being a socialist on the other side of this break. Don't go anywhere. Hey, guys, it's Carson. Not proud member of the 4:00am Club. You know what that is? Well, that's the time that I usually wake up every night and can't get back to sleep. Then I found Beam's dream powder. Now Beams Dream powder. Is made with a powerful blend of all natural ingredients including Reishi, magnesium, L Theanine, apigenin and Melatonin. It's designed to help you fall asleep, stay asleep and wake up feeling amazing. And unlike other sleep aids, there's no next day grogginess, just great restful sleep. Plus Dream tastes incredible and it's become a part of my nightly routine. Simple, easy, effective Dream is made right here in America supporting jobs, quality and the principles we stand for in America. Thank you very much. BEAM is going to give my listeners the ultimate patriot discount up to 40%. Try their best selling Dream powder get up to 40% off for a limited time. So with my discount code Newsmax you can get their best selling Dream powder for just $39. Go to shopbeam.com newsmax that's shopbeam.com newsmax again, use the code newsmax at checkout. That's beam.com newsmax and use code word newsmax for up to 40% off.

[DSA Representative]

It'S no secret that the Democratic Socialists of America hate the Democratic Party. I think we're all on the same page that we hate the Democratic Party. Democratic Party is not really our friend.

[Rob Carson]

It isn't?

[DSA Representative]

So why are the DSA such major players in the Democratic Party? This odd relationship can be understood with the cuckoo analogy. In nature, the cuckoo survives by trickery. It lays its egg in another bird's nest. The unsuspecting parents raise the imposter as their own until the cuckoo grows strong enough to push the true chicks out. The DSA is the cuckoo inside the Democratic Party.

[Rob Carson]

DSA is not the Democratic Party.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

We must separate ourselves from the toxic Democratic Party.

[Rob Carson]

We can put forward a clear, aggressive, principled strategy that pushes back against the.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Democratic leadership and the Democratic Party as a whole.

[DSA Representative]

DSA candidates run as Democrats in safe blue districts. They slip through low turnout primaries and once inside, they use the Democratic label as camouflage while advancing an extremist anti American agenda far beyond the party's mainstream.

[Rob Carson]

I don't agree with the Democratic Party, but it's a great tool.

[DSA Representative]

The Democratic is a tool that we use. Once in office. DSA candidates take orders from DSA's internal enforcers and working groups. City halls and state houses start running as socialist machines controlled by the organization, not the Democratic Party and certainly not voters.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, there you go. And who is a DSA candidate? Well, Zohran Mandami in New York City. I had to come to Jesus moment yesterday. I was reading Azramani's comment investigative report on on Zoran Mandami and it became very clear because I he had a debate last week and he was, he refused to ask commit to how he was going pay for all of the, the rent controlled housing that he's going to do and all the other stuff. And then I realized he has no plan because he has no plan on doing it. He just wants to get an office. That's it. And I also thought about this. I said, why would radical imams love him when he is so pro LGBTQIA plus? And then I thought, well, because he wants to get the LGBTQIA plus votes, the radical leftist votes. And then when he gets in office, they're screwed. This is the useful idiots that Joseph Stalin talked about were always from the left. We conservatives are educated. We conservatives pay attention. We conservatives have common sense, but the unhinged left does not. So they will go for any shiny object or any promise. And that is what Zoran Mandami is. And that's why he's so freaking frightening. Thane Rosenbaum joins us on the Newsmax hotline to talk about this. What do you think, my friend?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

You're as usual, Rob, you seem to figured it out. I mean, I also liked your substack essay this week. I thought that was a real insight. You know, that's what it is.

[Rob Carson]

You know what radical Islam does than you know what it does. Radical Islam lies. Radical Islam lies. They, after the election, if they could, they would just, they would, they would execute gays in if they could. That's radical Islam.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Well, that's just not hyperbole what you're saying. It's true. It's in the Quran. This just happened with Hamas. The Quran is very clear. There is nothing wrong with lying to infidels because it gives, it buys you more time to achieve what you're looking to achieve. It's in the Quran. You know, this is a strategy. You talk about useful idiots. The Western world doesn't function this way. So they don't realize that they're being told something and we're supposed to rely on it. So everything that Mondami says is, you know, ostensibly a lie because he doesn't feel there's any risk in his religion to relying. He actually thinks that this is part of the grand scheme, the plan of expanding Islamist power. The second thing I would say is about the useful idiots. Again referring to what we saw on campuses. They all have one thing in common that sort of started with Occupy Wall street, also started with knocking down statues, defacing, you know, buildings that have founding fathers on it. Trashing the founding fathers. Burning things. Burning police cars, burning police precincts, Smash and grab in, you know, designer stores. They all have one thing in common. Let's blow stuff up. Let's blow. Let's tear it down. What did we see immediately after October 7th? Tear down the posters of the hostages. Oh, yes, it's a very common theme. Let's set things on fire. Let's blow things up. Let's torch it and deface monuments. Remember during the encampments at George Washington University, they painted George Washington green in honor of the Palestinian flag and then gave him a kefia. They did this to an American founding father. The father of the United States. Americans look at that and say, oh, that's interesting. Look at them. They painted the press instead of saying what?

[Rob Carson]

They painted George Washington Rosen. Do you remember after 9 11, we heard from, you know, after we did some research on radical Islam. They will, they will move in silently. They will do whatever it takes to get into power and they will take the time to do it. It could take decades. Well, guess what? It's been two and a half decades.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Well, it's not just that. I just got off another podcast a moment ago.

[Rob Carson]

Are you seeing another podcast?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

You know, I shouldn't have said that. I know, I know we have a thing. I know we have our.

[Rob Carson]

I thought we were exclusive.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Yeah, I. What I was saying there, and I'm sure I've said it here again, is that we just haven't been paying attention to what's happened to the major capitals in Western Europe. We just haven't been paying attention. Americans are busy doing whatever. They're following the, you know, following the Kansas City Chiefs and Taylor Swift. There's a lot to do in America, but we're not actually paying attention. What has happened to the major capitals. Paris, London, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Stockholm and, you know, Brussels. We just haven't paid attention to the no go zones, to the 150 Sharia courts that operate in England.

[Rob Carson]

Or we just thought it couldn't happen here.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Well, but remember, it was just a year ago, Rob, that during the anti Israel protests in Dearborn, Michigan, that the first American flag was lit up. And we started to hear Death to America. We started to hear. Again, we're not paying attention. But your listeners can look this up. This is not, you know, hyperbole. This started to happen. Did you find that? Do you know what happened two weeks ago? Three weeks ago, I think, or two weeks ago? In Dearborn, Michigan, a Christian minister spoke at a city council meeting. The city council and the mayor are all Muslims. And here's what the minister said. You can look this up. He said, I am not comfortable that we use taxpayer dollars to rename a street in honor of a Hezbollah terrorist. He's not Jewish, he's Christian. He said, this doesn't make sense to me. Why would we do this? And the mayor said, rob Carson fans, look this up. I'm not telling. Go look it up. The mayor of Dearborn said, I want to tell you right now, sir, you are not welcome in this city. And if you leave, I personally will throw a parade to celebrate your departure. The mayor of Dearborn said this to a Christian minister.

[Rob Carson]

And they're playing the Muslim call to prayer in Minneapolis. The reason they do that is to establish dominance over an area. That's why they do it. That's why they do it. I've got more on this I want to share. On the other side of the break, Shane Rosenbaum on the Newsmax hotline. Yeah, this the reason why the radical imams are not rejecting Zuran Mandami's embracing of the LGBT community is because they know he's lying to get their votes. He knows they know they're lying to get it votes. It's a wink and a nod. Look at these useful morons. When we get to the other side of the election, then we'll go after them. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Interviewer]

Issue now that Andrew Cuomo is bringing up in New York is that he is a Ugandan citizen. Uganda is a country where they kill homosexuals.

[DSA Representative]

So the somebody who is a dual citizen can't be mayor of New York.

[Interviewer]

Or I would renounce if I was the dual citizen with a country whose policy, government policy was we kill homosexuals. Yeah, I would renounce that citizenship.

[Rob Carson]

I don't. And, and to not.

[Interviewer]

And he also.

[DSA Representative]

I think that is buying into a fear framework.

[Rob Carson]

Is not.

[DSA Representative]

Good for the country. It's not good for the country.

[Rob Carson]

You shouldn't be afraid of that.

[DSA Representative]

I think the way that Cuomo, I think the way that Cuomo is closing out this race and really. And really race baiting and really leaning in on.

[Interviewer]

I understand, but just because something is done by people in Africa doesn't mean it's always okay. Well, and, but you said race baiting. It has nothing to do with race.

[DSA Representative]

No, I'm talking, I'm talking about what Cuomo is doing suggesting that Mambani couldn't be a leader in a terror system situation if he were mayor of New York and God forbid, something else like.

[Interviewer]

Well, he did campaign with the terrorists.

[DSA Representative]

He did say, well, but Cuomo was pretty clear, I thought, in the way he talked about that, in a way that I thought was. Was ugly.

[Interviewer]

Well, he campaigned this week with a guy who was an unindicted co conspirator in the 1993 World Trade center bombing and served as a character witness for Omar Abdelrahman, the terrorist who organized it. So Sarah Palin used to say Obama palled around the terrorists, which was bull.

[Rob Carson]

No, it wasn't, actually. Yeah. You know, here's the deal. He's telling you everything you need to know. He is not refusing to say, tell Hamas to lay down their arms. He is refusing to stop saying globalize the intifada, tell you all the things, you know, promising everything, the sun and the moon and the stars, with no real plan for how to pay for it other than tax the rich. Shows that he's not going to do any of it. He just wants to get to office this campaign. He was discovered by Linda Sarsour in 2017 at the Pink P Word Hats in Washington, D.C. and he has been groomed and funded ever since. She discovered not only was he funded by George Soros and his radicalism, but also the woman running for lieutenant governor in the state of Virginia is also one of the people who Soros backs. And so there you go. Thane Rosenbaum, legal analyst, law professor on the Newsmax hotline. What do you have to say about that?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

It's interesting you made me remember that Linda Sarsour paid the price for taking photos with terrorists and being soft on terrorism and being an avowed Islamist and being an apologist for the treatment of women in Islamist societies. She paid a price. She was removed from a number of organizations because of that. Guess what's changed after October 7, 2023, and after Black Lives Matter protests. This is all fair game now. There's no punishment, you know, to Mondami for posing with terrorists. Now what we're seeing is a very different thing which just happened to Eugenia, just played that to happen to Bill Maher. It happened to me a week ago at a public event. When I pointed this out immediately I was called an Islamophobe. So instead of explaining, well, wait a minute, he's palling, or he literally is taking photos with people who support terrorism, if you point it out, you're obviously an Islamophobe. Instead of saying, no, I'm pointing out something that is significant information that a voter should take into consideration before they vote for him.

[Rob Carson]

You know that that panel is with Bill Maher.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

It's unflattering. If it's unflattering to a Muslim, it must be Islamophobic. No, it's unflattering.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it's bull crap. The, the woman on the panel there with Bill Maher, she's like one of those women who fall in love with death row inmates and they will fall in love with them and they will, they will say anything to defend that person to their death. And that is what it would end up being actually, depending on where you live in the world.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

And worse than that, Rob, she called it race dating. Islam is not a race. So she thought she bought into something. She knows. She knows. Either she's too stupid to know that or she knows if you call someone a racist, there's, there's nothing more self condemning. Nothing more. Yes, you know, so she said race baiting, instead of answering Bill Maher to say, wait a minute, this guy's actually campaigning with terrorists. She said, isn't that race baiting?

[Rob Carson]

I got you, I got you got to hear this. This is an ad for Mondami featuring four rabbis, one transgendered rabbi. Hi, Rabbi. Hi, Rabbi. Hi, Rabbi. Hi, Rabbi. Hi, Rabbi. Oh my God.

[DSA Representative]

Hi. We're among the thousands of Jewish New Yorkers who've been out door knocking and phone banking to elect Zoran Mamdani. We're also rabbis.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

We know Zorran will fight to make.

[DSA Representative]

Our city affordable and safe for our families and for our neighbors of all families, faiths and backgrounds. As New Yorkers, we're also just people who live here who don't want to get priced out of this incredible city that we call home.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. I gotta tell you, man, I, I, you know, I've talked about the self loathing Jew. It's the same way with a self loathing liberal. And there you go.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

I, Rob, I can't talk to you now. I just threw up in my mouth.

[Rob Carson]

I swear to God.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Yeah, look, I, look, as you know, I follow this, you know, my, you know, co religionists and it's really scary that 38% of them are voting for Mandami. And it just shows ridiculous that they are. So, you know, there is a religion that surpasses Judaism for them. It's the religion of the progressive left of the Democratic Party. To them, social activism. If you say the word social justice and activism. There's a segment of the Jews in the Democratic party that go do cartwheels. They could care less about Passover.

[Rob Carson]

They would help load the train cars. They would?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Absolutely.

[Rob Carson]

They would load the damn train cars.

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Well, they would. Two things. You know, they want to sit at the cool kids table and the cool tickets table, the one that, you know, walks on Hollywood carpets, red carpets, will tell you that Jews are the worst people in the world and Israel is the worst country in the world. And they'll, they'll buy into it. Whatever it takes to sit at the cool kids table. It's a nauseating thing that you're hearing rabbis do that, but I know this is the world in which we live.

[Rob Carson]

Well, Thane, I appreciate you being on. I'm not giving up hope. I said in when he won the primary that I didn't believe he could get elected in New York. And I'm hoping the world's on fire for people in New York recognizing that if he's posing with a radical imam and he's still radical lgbtqia, it means that he is going to betray the LGBTQIA and the leftists because they're being used for their votes. It's obvious. Duh. Thane Rosenbaum, great to have you on. Go to Thane Rosenbaum on Twitter. Where else can people find your work, brother?

[Thane Rosenbaum]

Thanerosenbaum.com all right, we'll talk soon.

[Rob Carson]

Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. We are going to freeze the rent for more than 2 million rent stabilized.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Tenants.

[Rob Carson]

And use every resource at our job disposal to build housing for everyone who needs it. Yeah, how you pay for it. That's ridiculous. We are going to eliminate the fare on every single bus line. No, you're not. No, you're not. And make what are currently the slowest buses in the nation move around this city with ease. It won't happen if it's free. Duh. He's lying. And we are going to create universal child care at no cost to parents. Yeah, and he has no plan for how to pay for it because he's not planning on following through. He is only trying to get use the useful idiots of the left to put his radical rear end in office. There you go. This is Kenny Burgos on Rob Schmitz last night talking about the rent promise.

[Kenny Burgos]

Yeah, so right now we already have a scenario where 200,000 units of housing and rent stabilized housing are functionally bankrupt. And that's not even coming from us specifically. This is the NYU Furman center and other credited think tanks that are raising the alar on rent stabilized housing. So the plan to freeze rents on the rent stabilized Housing stock, which is over 1,1 million units of housing, would decimate this housing stock, which is almost 40% of New York City's housing. So it can't be understated. Its impact not just within rent stabilized housing, but certainly the housing overall in New York City. And to say on the same side of your mouth you want to freeze rents, but then somehow attract private investment to build the housing that you also recognize New York City needs. I just don't see how you square that.

[Rob Carson]

You don't. He's lying. He just wants to get into office. He made the mistake of glad handing a radical imam who was a co conspirator. Unidentified co conspirator in the 1993 World Trade center bombing. And I said, wait a minute. He's also really pro lgbtqia. Plus, that doesn't, that doesn't match radical Islam. That, that, that radical Islamist should not have anything to do with, with Zoran Mandavi. Oh, Zoran's lying to get votes. Yeah, he is. That's what he's doing. You guys on the left are useful idiots.

[Rob Carson (voiceover or ad voice)]

He's a full fledged commie. A wealthy dad and mommy, he's worse than a tsunami. Mum, Donnie's a real threat.

[Rob Carson]

Worse than a socialist.

[Rob Carson (voiceover or ad voice)]

He's anti Semitic. It really is pathetic. He's not sympathetic. Mom, Donnie's a real threat.

[Rob Carson]

I'm right on this side.

[Rob Carson (voiceover or ad voice)]

Hamas, he's always backing his party. He's hijacking. Mom, Donnie is a threat. He can't win, does not know what he's doing. But he looks like a shoo in New York. Will be in ruin if Mom, Donnie wins.

[Rob Carson]

He is more dangerous than you could possibly imagine. I said this and now it really crystallized for me. And generally when I have those aha moments in the middle of the night, I'm rushing, I'm right. So I hope that New York pulls its head out of its rear end and realize what could happen. We've got another hour of the show coming up. Do not go anywhere.

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