Peace Through Strength, Complaints Through Democrats

Summary

The Rob Carson Show — “Peace Through Strength, Complaints Through Democrats”

Date: June 16, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Notable Guest: Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer (President, Project Sentinel)
Episode Focus: Analysis of current political and international events under Donald Trump's presidency, with emphasis on the U.S.-Iran peace deal, Democratic opposition, cultural commentary, and humor.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the recent U.S.-Iran peace agreement, contrasting it with the Obama-era nuclear deal (JCPOA) and exploring the broader implications of Trump's foreign policy. Carson and guest Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer celebrate what they describe as a decisive American victory leading to Iranian "surrender," discuss domestic Democratic criticism, highlight declining crime rates and improved social order, and touch on headline-grabbing domestic stories, always with Carson's trademark satire.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The U.S.-Iran "Peace Deal" — Surrender or Diplomacy?

[01:17–06:48, 24:41–38:45]

• Carson’s Framing:

  • Carson repeatedly refers to the Iranian regime as being “defanged” by Trump’s aggressive military and economic maneuvers.
    • “Donald Trump took their teeth out, kick their teeth in, I should say, got rid of their military industrial complex, killed their ayatollah, then made the gay one into cardboard and sank their navy and shut down their ports and played it artfully.” [01:25]
  • He contrasts Trump’s approach with Obama’s, ridiculing the JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action) for “giving them money and taking their word for everything,” resulting in Iran amassing enough uranium for multiple nuclear weapons.

• Democrats’ Response & Media Coverage:

  • Carson accuses Democrats of reflexively rejecting any Trump-initiated peace, suggesting partisan interests supersede national/international well-being.
    • “They don't want a Middle East peace if Donald Trump is in charge of it... They hate it because it's happening under Donald Trump.” [02:22]
  • Also includes parody/humor with a Barack Obama impersonator bemoaning Trump’s success (Jim Gossett as Obama).
    • “Trump did what I could never do. I had no plan.” [07:28] (Impersonation)

• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer’s Analysis:

  • Schaefer asserts the “peace deal” is, in reality, Iranian surrender:
    • “These are actually not an agreement, it’s terms of surrender, Rob. They're surrendering.” [25:02]
  • Strongly supports the performance-based model (money from Arab states only as Iran delivers compliance), contrasting with the Obama deal’s lack of robust verification.
  • Schaefer emphasizes minimal American losses and technological superiority:
    • “We use technology that we still can't admit to, which is good. We have more tricks up our sleeve.” [27:49]
    • “We blockaded a nation and their activities globally... That's never been done.” [28:51]
  • Compares the postwar planned recovery to the “Venezuela model,” with $300 billion from Arab states contingent on Iranian compliance.
    • “A performance measurement in this... the Iranians have to give us access or do certain things to make sure that they get the money.” [34:08]

• On Iranian Regime and Regional Stability:

  • Schaefer calls the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) “the enemy of Western civilization” and expects a coalition (including Kurds and Iranian expats) to challenge their power if given momentum.
    • “Going after the IRGC is the best course of action...” [35:41]

• On Israel, Lebanon, and Regional Realpolitik:

  • Schaefer: The Iran deal explicitly does not include Hezbollah/Lebanon; U.S. positioning is that Iran’s deal is with America, not Israel or Lebanon.
    • “Your deal is with us, Iran, not them... the solution remains Lebanon working with Israelis to eliminate Hamas.” [33:07]

Notable Quotes

• Carson (hyperbolically):
  • “We lost as many soldiers as we lose in one year of training exercises, taking down what was supposedly one of the better militaries in the world.” [04:34]
• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer:
  • “They’re giving in to us. And the question becomes, how do we then enforce whatever they agree upon? That’s the next big thing.” [25:09]
  • “We sunk their submarines, like in the first week... That’s what they get for installing... screen doors in their submarines.” [28:25]

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2. Domestic Political and Social Commentary

[08:17–17:44]

• Crime & Social Order:

  • Carson claims under Trump, Washington, D.C. is finally “clean and spotless,” with crime rates at lows not seen since 1900.
    • “The fountains are no longer being used as urinals... crime is down, murder rate, the lowest since the year 1900.” [02:09]

• The Carmelo Anthony Case:

  • Carson and panelists discuss the shock criminal conviction of former NBA star Carmelo Anthony.
  • Criticizes the lack of national uproar (“no headlines,” [11:03]) and condemns Anthony’s family for mishandling crowdfunding meant for his defense.

• End of "Black Grievance Era":

  • Cultural critic/guest John McWhorter: The political currency of “black grievance” has waned, and political actors relying on past tropes now appear out-of-touch.
    • “He talks in a way that would have been considered very urgent and very Jesse Jackson-esque in 1982. It doesn’t work now. He’s becoming relic.” [13:14]

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3. Obama Library & Contractors Scandal

[17:44–20:26]

• Black contractors report extensive unpaid labor and mismanagement on the Obama presidential library project.
  • Carson wryly notes the historical irony, calling it “something historical that was called... it rhymed with bravery, I think” (i.e., slavery). [17:57]
• Contractor Mike Owens details massive debts and forced layoffs, attributing these to mismanagement and waste:
  • “Our reserves have been completely drained. We’re barely getting by right now… nearly $900,000.” [18:57]
  • “Overall monies expended… nearly $4 million in the red. That is a hole no subcontractor small business can survive.” [19:39]

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4. Education Reform – School Choice Debate

[40:59–42:01]

• Mocks Democratic outrage over a Trump-backed $1,700 education tax credit and fears that private schools can exclude students for bad behavior or poor grades:
  • “If you suck, you're not allowed in... It's called merit.” [41:27]
• Criticizes public education for failing basic literacy and math benchmarks over decades; argues that recent reforms are necessary and overdue.

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5. Historical and Cultural Segues

[14:05–17:44, 23:05–24:41]

• Carson tells the story of Teddy Roosevelt’s secret boxing injury at the White House, using it to embolden American optimism and “badassery.”
• Shares a personal anecdote about celebrating on King Street, embracing immigrant and patriotic spirit with humor and self-deprecation.

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Memorable Moments & Humor

• Obama Impersonation Song:

  • “Why on why on about Trump’s deal with Iran… Proves that Obama’s jealous and envious… Trump did what I could never do. I had no plan.” [07:17–07:42]

• Screen Door Submarine Joke:

  • “That’s what they get for installing, putting in screen doors in their submarines.” [28:25]

• Carson's recurring phrase:

  • “Don’t catch the stupid. I’ll see you then.” [42:01]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Trump’s Iran Deal vs. Obama’s (incl. parody): [01:17–08:13]
• Carmelo Anthony Murder Case & Black Grievance Era: [08:17–13:54]
• Tony Schaefer Deep Dive: Peace Terms with Iran: [24:41–38:45]
  • Surrender terms: [25:02]
  • Military details and global blockade: [27:49–29:19]
  • Iran, Israel, Lebanon debate: [33:07]
• Obama Library Contractor Scandal: [17:44–20:26]
• Education/School Choice Rant: [40:59–42:01]

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Tone & Takeaways

• Tone: Combative, mocking towards Democrats, deeply patriotic, peppered with irreverent humor and occasional musical parody.
• Takeaways:
  • The show frames Trump’s foreign and domestic record as not just an improvement but a near-total rebuke of his Democratic predecessors.
  • Carson uses satire and exaggeration as tools of political critique and audience entertainment.
  • Guest Lt. Col. Schaefer provides military and policy gravitas to Carson’s bluster, validating the show’s core arguments with detailed insider perspective.

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Useful for New Listeners?

This summary encapsulates Carson’s irreverent, right-leaning approach to news analysis—mixing direct political advocacy, mockery of opposition, detailed guest commentary, and a recurring theme that “peace through strength” brings results that previous administrations failed to achieve. If you missed the episode, expect a fast-paced, humorous, and highly opinionated ride through the hottest headlines of the week.

Transcript

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[Commentator]

Hold it.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Now.

[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is our number three of the Rob Carson Show. Joining us at the bottom of the hour is one of our favorite guests, Tony Schaefer, president of Project Sentinel. I'm going to talk about the, this new deal that Donald Trump is doing against Iran. Iran is now the, the bumble from, from Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer that's been defanged in and they shoved it off a cliff. That's, that's Iran right now. And, and unlike Barack Obama, instead of just giving them money and taking their word for everything, Donald Trump took their teeth out, kick their teeth in, I should say, got rid of their military industrial complex, killed their ayatollah, then made the gay one into cardboard and sank their navy and shut down their ports and played it artfully. There was only six weeks of combat and then it's been nine, ten weeks of ceasefire and we had to hit them again this weekend just to kick that last molar out. And now they come to the table. So here is the president at the G7 talking about the Democrats, of course, who have been fighting since day one because the Democrats are awful and they don't want a Middle east peace if Donald Trump is in charge of it. If Donald Trump makes it happen, they don't want anything good to happen. If Donald Trump is going to get credit for it, that's just the way they're doing it. So the reflecting pool, for instance, is now gorgeous. It's going to be beautiful. Washington, D.C. is clean and spotless. The fountains are no longer being used as urinals. There are no homeless encampments. There's no graffiti. All of this thing crime is down to the murder rate, the lowest since the year 1900 in America. It's amazing. And the Democrats growl and gnash their teeth and they hate it. They hate it because it's happening under Donald Trump. It is quite awful. It really is. Going bombing drug boats. They say that the drug captains are just innocent fishermen, which is a joke, which is a lie. They caterwauled when Maduro was taken out of Venezuela, they caterwauled about it. They hate that Donald Trump is going to bring freedom to Cuba. And they're trying to go around Donald Trump to make sure that the Cuban regime can survive, the communist regime can survive. I can go on and on about this awful, awful Democrat Party. Of course, it culminated in them trying to get rid of the UFC fight that happened on, on the White House grounds. They hated it and hated it. Then ultimately their, their vitriol caused a group of individuals now we know to try to, to plot, to murder maybe hundreds of people at the UFC event. Because there's a thing called stochastic terror. When you, when you make someone believe so much that an individual or a group of people are truly evil when they're not, then the unhinged will them because they feel it's righteous to destroy them. That's what they tried to do, and they failed because they suck and they're evil. There you go. Here is Donald Trump from the G7. Democrats are complaining because, you know, Donald Trump might be bringing peace and we don't. We need to see this agreement, you know. And by the way, what did. Barack Obama did? Send them pallets of cash. They were able to buy all the missiles they want, build their drones, all of this. And by the way, in this entire campaign, we lost two aircraft. We lost as many soldiers as we lose in one year of training exercises, taking down what was supposedly one of the better militaries in the world. And we did it effectively in six

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

weeks, our navy, because the naval blockade was unbelievable. But I will actually, I'll not only release it, I'll probably have a.

[Rob Carson]

He's talking about the transcript of the

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

peace agreement press conference and read it to you.

[Rob Carson]

He's not going to read it out

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

loud, word by word so that the press covers it accurately.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know, the 60 Minutes by might. Might. Or the BBC might edit it falsely

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

because it's, it's a very important document. And unlike Obama, who could have destroyed the Middle east with a horrible JCPOA

[Rob Carson]

pos is what I like to call it.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

It is the worst agreement that was a road to a nuclear weapon. Mine is a wall against a nuclear weapon.

[Rob Carson]

That's how they had enough uranium for 10 to 12 nuclear weapons. And then we found out because Iran launched, launched a missile, they discovered that Iran had missiles that could reach London and Paris.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

I mean, I see these people say,

[Rob Carson]

but we already have. You see, they put the nuclear weapon on top of the missile and then deliver the missile and it goes boom. I just want to explain that to Democrats.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

He paid a fortune for it. We pay nothing. We don't pay. There was some statement we're going to spend $300 billion.

[Rob Carson]

No, no. Not one bit of taxpayer money. Actually, we're not paying one bit of taxpayer money. If there's any money being spent for to rebuild Iran, it's from members of the UAE and the other Arab states

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

have to go and invest if we wanted to someday in the future. We have no obligation whatsoever. It could be that Iran will turn out to be.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. So there's the news out of Iran. Apparently they're doing some strikes against Israel and Israel saying, don't do that or we'll just kick your butt some more. So there you go. That's what's happening. With regard to happening over there, of course, Barack Obama is very upset about it because he's made to look like a fool because he is one. Jim Gossett as Barack Obama.

[Impersonator of Barack Obama]

Why on why on about Trump's deal with Iran.

[Rob Carson]

You're a terrible president.

[Impersonator of Barack Obama]

Proves that Obama's jealous and envious and won. Real petty man.

[Rob Carson]

Neville Chamberlain.

[Impersonator of Barack Obama]

Trump did what I could never do. I had no plan.

[Rob Carson]

No, you didn't.

[Impersonator of Barack Obama]

So I'll wide on why on on about Trump's new deal with Iran.

[Rob Carson]

Boo frigginy who?

[Impersonator of Barack Obama]

My deal. My deal gave away the whole store. Iran got billions from us to make a lot of weapons and fund even more.

[Rob Carson]

They did Trump's deal.

[Impersonator of Barack Obama]

I will criticize. Cause it not mine. I'll wine on. Wine on all of the time.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

There you go.

[Rob Carson]

Democrats will rue the day. Will rue the day that they immediately called the Operation Epic Fury a Failure, a disaster. Because they were also saying that about our military. And I got to tell you, there's never been a more just incredible campaign of destruction of an enemy with very few losses in world history. It was something else. And again, the Democrats are going to rue the day that they immediately criticize that. They're going to rue the day that they threw their hats in and they supported this idiot in Maine, Graham Platner. Not hearing a whole lot about that today, are we?

[Contractor Mike Owens]

Are we? Are we?

[Rob Carson]

We're not hearing much about Graham Platner today, are we? Yeah, no, Democrat women are talking about Graham Platner. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, because Graham Platner is toast. He's toast. But y' all went in on it, man. You, you proved that you will elect the devil himself if you can get a Democrat Senate seat out of it. So there's that. This got interesting. What else has disappeared? What else has disappeared from the headlines today? Carmelo Anthony. Yeah, he murdered a guy. He murdered a guy in cold blood. Was found guilty of murdering a guy. They tried to bring race in it and they wanted to set the country on fire again like they did in the summer of 2020. But the case was so, so unbelievably obvious that even Stephen A. Smith said, well, duh, it was murder.

[Commentator]

Carmelo Anthony murdered Austin Metcalf. There is no other way to slice it.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. How else

[Commentator]

do you explain? Or can you explain explain? You at a track meet, appearing in a visitor's tent.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Commentator]

Austin Metcalf and his brother, according to reports, come over to you, asking you to leave.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Commentator]

Because you're sitting under their tent. An argument ensues. Folks have said it spanned more than 5, 6 minutes. Others said it went as long as 15. A two hand shoved is believed to have happened. Yeah, by one witness. Another witness said it was a one hand shove.

[Rob Carson]

There were black witnesses who said that Carmelo murdered him.

[Commentator]

How does that justify Carmelo Anthony pulling out a knife and stabbing Austin Metcalfe?

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yeah, there you go.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Stabbed it so hard he pulled the segments of bone from him and he died in his brother arms. And then all these people went outside. All the Black Panther rehashes from the 60s were out there, you know, just claiming, just sickening things there. They're urinating on Austin Metcalfe's grave last week. You know, the really sad and pathetic thing is his family were so awful. Carmelo Anthony's family are so bloody awful while their son is in jail and they're Saying their son is innocent. They raised $700,000 online for his defense and they blew every damned bit of it. While their son sat in jail, they partied their butts off. They bought a $150,000 ESC and moved into a $900,000 house while their son was sitting in jail, his life on the line. Rather than spending money on a defense which wouldn't have worked because he was obviously guilty, they partied. That's why Carmelo Anthony is such an awful human being and is going to spend his life in jail at least 35 years, maybe out in half of that we'll see. But his family, they are awful. And where are the headlines? Where is the crow? Where's the burning of the cities? Where's the looting and stuff that happened in 2020? It's not happening. It's not happening. This is a guy named John McWhorter. And here's one of the reasons why it's not happening. It's because the black grievance era is over now.

[John McWhorter]

We have so many people with so many different kinds of problems and it's never going to be the way it was before. And I find myself watching someone like Chicago's mayor Brandon Johnson, and he's clearly minted right. In the era of black power and root causes, the idea that no black person can really do anything wrong because of our history and to me, and I think to an increasing number of people, he looks tinny now. He talks in a way that would have been considered very urgent and very Jesse Jackson Esque in 1982. It doesn't work now. He's becoming relic.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, the rhyming reverends are dead of another time.

[John McWhorter]

I suspect he won't be re elected and that type is going to be ever rarer. We need more cosmopolitan and frankly, more honest people as our black leaders. It's gotten to the point that when someone comes along and thinks that we're still.

[Rob Carson]

John McWhorter is a black guy.

[John McWhorter]

In the era where black grievance is something that a significant number of whites are ready to just lay down and change the rules for. I see that kind of person and I almost feel sorry for them because I can tell that they just don't know what else to do. They can't imagine going another way. The noise that they're trying to make

[Rob Carson]

and the effect it's about diverting responsibility

[John McWhorter]

they're hoping it's going to have, it's not going to work the way it did for previous generations.

[Rob Carson]

That's why nobody's talking about Carmelo Anthony today. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

But in most places on Earth, they believe that your rights come from your government and from your laws. But ours was founded on the belief that your rights come from your creator and from God.

[Rob Carson]

Come on. That's why we're so awesome. First Amendment backed up by the second Amendment. That's what made America. That's why civilizations existed with the same natural resources, the same human capital for millennia. And it took America to discover electricity, create the light bulb, internal combustion engine, rocket engine, blue jeans, rock and roll, you know all this stuff. And. And become the most amazing, amazing engine of individual and economic prosperity in the history of mankind. Without America, we'd still be using the streets as a latrine, you know, like they do in Chicago and Philadelphia and San Francisco. Did you know that there was a fight held at the White House a long time ago, back in 1904? Did you know that? Yeah. For most of Theodore Roosevelt's presidency, he kept a secret. He was partially blind in his left eye. He had a boxing match in the White House, and he did the fighting. He was such a badass. He was. Teddy Roosevelt was such. I mean, he was like.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Like what?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, there you go. So this happened years and years ago, way back when.

[Commentator]

The.

[Rob Carson]

The back. It was the last time. It was set against the backdrop of a presidency also marked by controversy over raising sections of the Executive Mansion. During his roughly seven and a half years in office, Roosevelt frequently invited AIDS friends and even professional athletes to the Executive Mansion to engage in all manners of sportsman like battery and barbari. He was also frequently injured during these sporting matches, but the damage to his left eye is believed to have occurred while boxing. One of his military aides. He was struck in the left eye while boxing. Since then, he had noticed black spots before the eye and blurred vision is what he did. It was kind of interesting. I was reading this piece. This is Richmond Times. No, no, no, no. This is the. I believe this is the New York Times. Anyway, it's a. It's a piece by Ted Muldoon, who. Sounds like a boxer, doesn't he? Te Ted Muldoon. Light heavyweight Ted Muldoon. Reporters scrambled to cover the identity of the young captain of artillery who delivered the blow. But it turns out he was Colonel Dan T. Moore. Not dainty, more not dead. T. Moore. Like the stew in a can, which I've never eaten. I don't even. Not even interested in eating. I can imagine it tastes a Lot like dog food. Nothing against denty. More beef stew? More. But no, no. There you go. Dan T. Moore, cousin of the first lady Edith Roosevelt. Roosevelt's injury had been such a secret had been kept from Moore. He said, I never knew the colonel had lost the sight of one eye in the glove about until I read the interview the other day, Moore told the Evening Star. And I certainly do hate to think I was responsible for it. Not so right. Teddy Roosevelt wanted to fight and you kicked his butt. You should be proud of it. I thought that was kind of. I thought that was kind of cool. That's like a Paul Harvey, rest of the story kind of thing there. Sorry, Gen Z, you don't know who that is. But anyway, he used to do this thing. It's kind of cool. Barack Obama is not paying black contractors at the Obama library. Did you know about this? Did you know about this? Subcontractors are claiming they haven't been paid

[John McWhorter]

yet for the work on the project.

[Rob Carson]

So many of our black contractors are complaining about they have not got their money. But the other side of it, a lot of the black community and the newspapers do not know that these people have. Well, what do they call it when you make black people do work and they don't get any money for it? What the hell do they call that? There was something historical that was called. It rhymed with bravery, I think. Here's Mike Owens. He's one of the contractors who's literally going broke because he hasn't been paid.

[Contractor Mike Owens]

And unfortunately, this is not to embarrass anybody, but this is just make sure that the truth gets told out here of what has happened here to the companies that poured their heart and soul into getting this job complete and operational. We were made to cut all the insulation off of the piping for the storm system and then forced to retest areas that did not need to be tested. In turn, Adamson had to go back and redo work that caused a tremendous. This financial strain on the company to the tune of nearly $900,000. That hit alone is something very hard to recover from, especially on a job this size.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, this is again, Mike Owens. It's interesting the, the Obama, the people in charge of this, they insisted on contractors, you know, that were minority contractors and all that, and then they screwed them over financially.

[Contractor Mike Owens]

Our reserves have been completely drained. We are barely getting by right now. Unfortunately, we're probably going to have to lay off union workers here in the short term so that we can regroup and lick our wounds and hopefully live to Fight another day. That's where we're at.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that's nice. And he says that they're $4 million in the red. You know, with this Obama library that looks like the sand crawler from the

[Contractor Mike Owens]

first Star wars movie just on our internal. The overall monies expended on this project have now reached nearly $4 million in the red. That's in totality over the last five years. That is a hole that no subcontractor small business can survive.

[Rob Carson]

No, no. And he says there was a lot of wasted labor apparently over there.

[Contractor Mike Owens]

Wasted labor on elevators not working, areas being closed out. It all starts to add up.

[Rob Carson]

Sounds like a government job. Yeah.

[Contractor Mike Owens]

It's in my opinion that there's been mismanagement here.

[Rob Carson]

No, that's been settled to the subway with Democrat bureaucrats. Really.

[Contractor Mike Owens]

Contractors. And we've all had to absorb them. And I just feel that that's not right.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, there you go. That's Barack Obama's presidential library. That looks like a sand crawler from Star Wars. I just want to see R2D2 and C3PO come out there, you know, and then one of the droid there beside him starts to pop and break and all that. And, and then, and then they choose R2D2. That's what I want to say. Tony Schaefer joins us next to talk about the Sherod Accord. Don't go anywhere.

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[Rob Carson]

Little whiskey in the jar. Metallica. Love it.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Come on.

[Rob Carson]

So I, I posted pictures of me dancing at my own parents. I'll just do that. I was down on King street in Old Town Alexandria across from our nation's capital Saturday night while the TDS fight was, I mean the UFC fight was happening and I posted it because I just had a lot of fun and I was surrounded by joyous people who were there to celebrate America's history. There were tall ships down there and a lot of people in town for the FIFA, for the, you know, the, the World cup of Soccer that's going on around the country and people are loving America and there were a lot of people there from Central and South America, I believe Brazil was represented and they were playing music and I ended up being dragged out in there and dancing and yeah, I know I look like, you know, a middle aged guy who probably needs to lose 25 pounds. I get it, I get it. But it was really fun. It was really fun. It was really fun and you can see it on all my social media. If you don't have anything better to do with your time, do that. I am told that Lt. Col. Tony Shaver joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Of course. He is the president of Project Sentinel 2020 Campaign National Security Advisor for Donald Trump. Lt. Col. Tony Shaver. How are you doing today, sir?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

I'm doing well. How are you, Rob?

[Rob Carson]

I'm great, bro. I'm very curious and listen, I get the most satisfaction from hearing people like you and their opinion on an accord like has been we will be signed between Iran and the United States. So night the United States. So what are your thoughts on this initially?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Well, we won. This is, these are actually not in agreement. It's terms of surrender, Rob. They're surrendering.

[Rob Carson]

Okay.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

And so yes, trying to basically be as gracious as possible about the surrender and that's why we've seen kind of this back and forth, forth. But I think that's what, you know, that's why they call it an mou, not a surrender. Because they're surrendering. They really are. They're giving in to us. And the question becomes, how do we then enforce whatever they agree upon? That's the next big thing. So when we start looking at these payments for performance, you know, I had no problem with Arab countries giving them money once they start performing to task, giving us access. But that was a problem with the joint agree to Paul plan of action that Obama was talking about. There was no plan to do anything to verify. There was no trust to verify, was just, hey, here's the money. Stop doing what you're doing. And of course, we didn't do it.

[Rob Carson]

So, yeah, look what happened. Look what happened. They had enough. Enough nuclear material for 10 to 12 missiles. We found out that they had the missiles that could deliver the payload. I mean, they lied about every damn thing. And then, of course, they had terrorist proxies that ultimately precipitated October 7th. So Barack Obama saying that, I mean, it's laughable that he would say that this deal wasn't as good as his deal.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, you don't want to think that he's a narcissist. You know, just say, well, you think

[Rob Carson]

I just got that. Holy. I just got that. Oh, my Lord.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, because he's like, just so, like, oh, no, this is no different than what I did. Like, dude, I don't remember you bombing the. I can't say that on the air. Yes, yes, the Iranians. Yes, but. And then going about making sure that the nuclear stockpile is unavailable and never will be. I don't. I don't think that he didn't do any of that yet. He's saying this is the same thing he did. I mean, that's how insane this is.

[Rob Carson]

He dropped a lot of bombs and a lot of missiles during his administration and waged war with Syria without, you know, there was no threat of a nuclear, you know, a nuclear Syria. I guess really, when you think about it, it's all been nonsensical. It's all been ridiculous. And he essentially. Donald Trump. And I'd like, you're a military man. This campaign was remarkable. We lost about as many troops, and it's a tragedy. Don't get me wrong. We lost as many troops as we do during training exercises. If I'm not mistaken. We lost two planes. One of them was essentially friendly fire. We had a helicopter with a drone stuck between the pilots. They had to do an emergency landing. But, I mean, when you consider the supposed strength of the Iranian army, this was, this is an amazing campaign.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. We, we use technology that we still can't admit to, which is good. I mean, we have more tricks up our sleeve. There's reasons why we knew certain things at certain times, and I'll just leave it at that.

[Commentator]

Yes.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

The other thing, though, to your point. Yeah. We didn't really suffer any significant, significant operational losses much beyond what we normally do at a high ops training tempo. So that's all true. You know, we had a few things that got struck, but that's to be expected. You know, we do, this is combat. But we sunk their submarines, like in the first week.

[Co-host or Guest Analyst]

Yes.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

The submarines went down one last time, didn't come up. We were able to seal off globally. That's true. It's true. That's what they get for installing, putting in screen doors in their submarines.

[Rob Carson]

You know, they needed some of that, some of that flex seal. You know, they take the canoe and they put the screen door in the bottom and they spray it with. You know, all they needed was some flex seal to keep their Navy afloat.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. And then we, and then globally, Rob, we were able to basically corral them globally. Think about that. That's never been done. We've never gone about a global blockade. I mean, we, we blockaded Cuba, that was a country, we blockaded a nation and their activities globally. So, yeah, they, they really had no options left other than to come to the table. So this is, this really is the terms of their surrender. Not, not an agreement.

[Rob Carson]

I am fascinated by it because we had essentially, you know, they said, we're going to wrap this up at six weeks. They wrapped up the combat portion of this, with the exception of this last weekend in six weeks. And it had said, if I'm not mistaken, around 10 weeks of negotiation and ceasefire. So I, me, personally, I was getting very impatient toward the end because I felt like we were getting the run around and I believe we were. And then Donald Trump kicked the last tooth that they had in their mouth in this weekend. Do you suppose that was. That was it?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Well, two things. I think the Arabs had finally gotten through and said, look, dude, you shot at us, you're done. We're not, we're not going to be your friend now.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

And the second thing was really a big kick in the teeth, which everybody's kind of been ignoring, even, even army media. Is the secret of flotilla that we were getting ships out of there.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

You know, once, once price, the price of oil started dropping without an agreement. It's like, oh, something's going off. And look at all the, it was all there. We just, you know, they didn't highlight it. We were able to keep it under the radar, and we were taking Navy crews, putting them on these ships, sneaking them out. So that's another thing that once the Iranians figured out, yeah, this, this, this control of the straight ain't working, it's like, okay, it's all over. If you've lost your last point of leverage, it's not working. You need to think about doing something different. And the only different option they had was to essentially capitulate.

[Rob Carson]

It is, it is interesting, though, Tony, that we, oil really didn't go much over $100 a barrel for such a, you know, devastating conflict as the Democrats made it seem. Joe Biden, when, when he invited Ukraine to be invaded by Russia and sent them 250 billion do dollars in unaudited funds and said that oil could go above $200 a barrel. And they asked how long, and Joe Biden said, however long it takes. Nobody seemed to care. Nobody seemed to care. But how many barrels did we sneak through? I thought it was like 175 million. Was it that many? I mean, it was gigantic.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

It was significant because again, the moment oil prices start dropping, it's like, okay, the supply is coming back up. And the other thing, remember on this, Rob, is that this is, as I said on the show several times now, this is all about global control, influence or direction, direction of oil. That's what President Trump's going for here, and that's what he's about to implement on Iran. Whether they like it or not, he's going to put on them the Venezuela model. Whether they like it or not. That's what they're going to have to live by. And that means essentially de facto control. We de facto control of Iranian oil. And that's super, super significant.

[Rob Carson]

Listen to this. Crude oil is down to 72 bucks. Yeah, crude oil down, dude, $72 a barrel. The day that they announced this. My God, this is amazing. More with Tony. Tony Schaefer on the other side of the break, if you can hold on, Tony. This is the Rob Carson Show. It's the Rob Carson Show. I was just seeing online that Donald Trump is at the, the G7 and the President was gifted a custom German national team jersey from German Chancellor Frederick Merz. And it's Trump. It says number 47. I thought that was kind of funny, and it reminded me of this.

[Commentator]

It's good to be the King.

[Rob Carson]

It is good to be the king. Donald Trump is like the king, and this is how they, they treat him around the world. We got some renewed respect right now, of course. We've got Tony Schaefer on the phone. Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer talking about the Iran deal. I saw, I was seeing the Citizen Free Press said that a major sticking point is Israel will not pull troops from Lebanon. And Iran says no deal. What do you know about that?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Well, the Iranians have tried to link Lebanon and the issue regarding Hezbollah from the beginning, and we've said no, that's a separate issue. It's completely separate for two reasons. First, dealing with Lebanon. Lebanon is a country. We don't control Lebanon and we don't control the Israelis. Oh, it's kind of like, yeah, your deal is with us, Iran, not them. And if you're basically admitting that Hezbollah, you know, Hezbollah is a terror proxy, then shame on you, but still not our issue. You need, you know, that's, that's up to them to deal with. And the solution remains, I think, to be one that I've suggested. I think the administration is now saying this too. Lebanon needs to be the one who works with the Israelis to eliminate Hamas. This is not something we should be involved in. And so as far as I'm concerned, you know, the Iranians can whine all they want, but the deal is with us, not the Iranians and not the Israelis or the Lebanese. So.

[Rob Carson]

So there's like $300 billion supposedly coming from Arab countries. Is this like a Marshall Plan, essentially, what's going on with it?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

It is, yeah. So the first $24 billion supposed to come from Qatar and Oman. And these are funds that the Arabs will control. And it'll be their due diligence to work. We will be verifying everything every step of the way. And what's different again, is that there's a performance measurement in this. You know, the Iranians have to give us access or do certain things to make sure that they get the money. This is performance based. It's like you, Rob, if, you know, if our boss came to you and said, hey, you need to grow your audience a certain percentage, you don't get the bonus. If you grow it, you get the bonus. Something like that. So that's what's going on here. And the Arab nations have pledged up to 300 billion to kind of help get Iran back into the, in the good graces of this country. And by the way, again, this is kind of the Venezuela model where we've been working with our allies in Latin America to help rebuild Venezuela. So this is not significantly different.

[Rob Carson]

This is, this is very interesting. It's almost like, you know, kind of like what happened after World War II with Japan and Germany to some degree. To some degree. I spoke to your fellow veteran Blaine Holt yesterday about this, and Blaine is optimistic that the military will depose to some degree the IRC G. The Kurds can get involved with this and we could see kind of a free Iran again. Are you optimistic about that happening?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Yes, I think the common to everybody just mentioned is the irgc. The IRGC is the common enemy. They are the enemy. They are the enemy of Western civilization. They are the enemy of the, of the Arab coalition, of the, of the Israelis. They're, they're an enemy of the, of the, the Iranian people. Remember the basic. They represent about 6% of the population, the Shia. And so you basically had a country prisoner to the 6% of the mullahs. And that's. And so, yeah, I think if you, if you look just at the demographics with a little momentum, going after the IRGC is the best course of action to eliminate the, the threat to everybody in the region.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I was walking down King street here in Old Town Alexandria, and I see this art store and rug store. And I walk in last week and I am greeted by four ebullient, fantastic people with thick Persian accents. And they're all like, welcome to our store. They made me feel so welcome. And I turn and I see a framed photo of the Shah and then painting. And I said, I turned and I said, free Iran. And they raised their hands and they embraced me. It was glorious. It was glorious. There are a lot of Iranian expats here who I think not only they could be a powerful economic force for rebuilding Iran as well.

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

Why? I don't know. I guess you didn't hear. Hunter Biden's jumping into the Persian rug business and he's going to be importing all these things with some sort of a white substance embedded. So he can kind of sniff as

[Rob Carson]

he, as he goes, that's Parmesan cheese. That's Parmesan cheese. That's Parmesan cheese. Let me ask you this. You know, the next thing I guess is Cuba. What's going, what's the shoe to drop with Cuba?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

So I think another blockade's going on. I think you're going to see the government there capitulate within, I don't know, by the end of the summer, you can only live so long with 22 hour blackouts Rob.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I know. Exactly. Well, it is interesting and I think we're going to see a millennial peace as. I just had a feeling that patriotism and faith were going to sweep the globe and a lot of amazing things were going to happen. We knew it was going to happen overnight. But, you know, what would you give this, this, this Iranian campaign, you know, for lack of a better cliche, on a scale of one to ten, how was this conducted?

[Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer]

I give it eight and a half. I think it's very solid. I think there were some rough edges here and there. There always. But, you know, look, a shout out to my friend Pete Hexif. I've said this to him personally. Got. You know, he's done amazing. Amazing. I think he'll go down, and I'm not saying it's because of my friend. I think I'll go down as one of the top, most effective secretaries of war ever. Just saying so.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I appreciate your take on all of this. I know you have a lot of inside information that most don't, and that's why I value you, your common sense and your perspective. It always. It's always great to have you on. Tony Schaefer, I appreciate you, man. Yeah, absolutely. Let's. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show,

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[Guest Commentator or Co-host]

Every time I hear voucher, I hear vulture. Right? Now that they put this in the big ugly bill, we have to do

[Rob Carson]

every vulture Big Ugly. You're. That's real creative. You must be a public school teacher.

[Guest Commentator or Co-host]

Thing we can to get it out. My colleagues talk about school choice. Well, here's this. The school chooses. They choose. The public schools accept every child I know, as they should. And private schools, they admit who they want. They can reject students based on their grades or their behavior.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. Their grades are the behavior. If you suck, you're not allowed in their religion.

[Guest Commentator or Co-host]

If they're lgbtqi plus if they have a disability.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, that's all illegal. You say, but the grades and behavior. Absolutely 100%. You got to earn your way in. It's called merit. It's called merit. And honestly, how about. Shut up. You Destroyed the last 40 years. Destroyed every metric of quality of education in America. That's why they're getting rid of the dea, thank you very much. Or the, the, the, the public schools, not the dea.

[Contractor Mike Owens]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Japan Department of Education, the doe. There you go. That's going to do it for the show. God bless you. God bless America. Donald Trump, he's doing a great job. Our military did a great job in, in Iran, by the way. And until tomorrow, which is Wednesday, don't catch the stupid. I'll see you then.

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