Poland Shoots Down Russian Drones – Is Europe on the Brink?

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Episode: Poland Shoots Down Russian Drones – Is Europe on the Brink?
Date: September 10, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (with guest Fred Fleitz)
Podcast: Newsmax Podcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show dives into the mounting international tensions in Europe after Poland shot down Russian drones, raising alarms about a potential escalation with Russia. Anchored in the show’s trademark blend of political commentary, humor, and cultural insight, Rob Carson is joined by Fred Fleitz (former NSC Chief of Staff) to analyze breaking global developments including the Russia-Poland incident, the Middle East, the internal U.S. political scene, and the direction of global populism.

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Main Themes & Purposes

• Rising Tensions in Europe: Analysis of Poland’s response to Russian drone incursions and the risk of a widening conflict.
• Geopolitical Realignment: Discussion of Europe’s political rightward shift and pushback on “radical leftism.”
• Middle East Conflict Update: Israel’s strikes on Hamas leaders in Qatar and broader regional dynamics.
• U.S. Domestic Politics: Ongoing backlash against the Biden administration, discussion of economic statistics revisions, and January 6th narratives.
• Populism vs. Globalism: Examination of anti-globalist sentiment rising in multiple countries.

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Detailed Segment Breakdown

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1. Show Kickoff & Background (01:16 – 07:31)

• Rob Carson recaps his personal and show’s growth, expressing a sense of “serendipity” and purpose in politically turbulent times.
• Emphasis on the “death of the liberal media” and the decline of legacy mainstream networks:
  • Quote:
    “We have seen in the last four years the death of the liberal media. ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, NPR, defunded federally. All of them, they're meaningless, right?”
    (03:33) – Rob Carson
• Stresses the need to remain joyful, patriotic, and use ridicule as a tool in the ongoing political struggle.

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2. U.S. Economy & Political Spin (07:31 – 12:47)

• Key Talking Points:

  • Revised job numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics show 900,000+ fewer jobs than previously reported (mostly during Biden’s presidency).
  • Democrats are accused of misrepresenting economic data and distracting with topics like January 6th.
  • Small business optimism is rising under Trump’s economic policies, per NFIB survey.
  • Carson highlights regulatory reductions pursued by Trump as aiding economic recovery.

• Notable Exchange:

  • Quote:
    "The Democrats are trying to distract, distract, distract. Here is Hakeem Jeffries saying the abbot on day one, Donald Trump didn’t bring down the price of whatever… and then he tries to distract using January 6th."
    (09:52) – Rob Carson

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3. January 6th Narratives & Political Parodies (12:47 – 22:26)

• Discussion:

  • Recurring critique of the official January 6th narrative, calling comparisons to Pearl Harbor/9-11 “nonsense.”
  • Analysis of the newly revealed large FBI informant presence on January 6th; Fred Fleitz and Carson question the depth of government involvement and the subsequent justice process.

• Rob’s Mockery of Leftist Rhetoric:

  • Quote:
    "Nobody believes that January 6th was Pearl Harbor. In 9/11, what are the three most important dates in American history? That’s Eric Swallows. Well, December 7, 1941, September 11, and January six… because they are seared into our memory. Maybe because you forgot."
    (16:57) – Rob Carson
  • Uses satirical rhymes and parodies to further lampoon Democrats and the mainstream media.

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4. Israel & Middle East: Assassination in Qatar, U.S. Response (22:26 – 29:20)

• Segment with Fred Fleitz:

  • Discusses Israel’s reported airstrike killing Hamas leaders sheltered in Qatar and the diplomatic complexity it causes, especially if the U.S. (Trump) was not informed in advance.
  • Fred Fleitz: Wonders about Saudi and U.S. knowledge or complicity regarding Israeli air movements.
  • Qatar’s ambiguous role: "Are they talking out of both sides of their mouth?" (Rob, 25:47)
  • Discussion of Trump’s or the Trump administration’s evolving view—possibly putting pressure on Arab states to take a lead in Gaza reconstruction, minus Hamas.

• Notable Quote:

  • "Israel did say it was going to hunt down and kill every Hamas leader…Yes, I’m concerned at reports that the U.S. was not notified about this in advance."
    (24:10-24:35) – Fred Fleitz

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5. Europe’s Rightward Shift & Polish Drone Incident (29:20 – 36:28)

A. Poland Shoots Down Russian Drones (30:56 – 32:31)

• Fleitz and Carson assess whether the drone incursion was a provocative act by Russia, a navigational error, or a response to aerial jamming in the Ukraine theater.
• Quote:
  "I think drones are being flown out of Belarus which does border Poland and Ukraine. I wonder if the drones are flown out of Belarus and they may have went off course. We just don't know yet."
  (30:56) – Fred Fleitz

B. Europe’s Political Realignment & Global Backlash (32:31 – 36:28)

• Discussion of growing European populist-conservative movements as a backlash to mass immigration, radical Islam, and green policies.

• References anti-U.E. acts and symbolism, such as Polish candidate Grzegorz Braun burning an EU flag.

• Praise for Hungary’s resistance to EU migrant quotas.

• Carson posits the global spread of resistance to leftist orthodoxy, including in South America.

• Quote:
  "I think we’re seeing populist conservative movements gaining support in Europe because they’re tired of the radical left’s attack on free speech, out of control immigration… and radical green agenda."
  (33:17) – Fred Fleitz

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6. Closing & Parody Segment (37:27 – 38:59)

• Brief mention of Israeli intransigence against Hamas, featuring comedic commentary and parody songs about bombing Hamas ("Bomb Hamas, put up a parking lot").

• Callout of parody writer Jim Gossett and his ongoing tradition of political satire.

• Notable Parody:

  • "Send them to paradise, put up a parking lot… Magic carpet bomb them…"
    (38:11–38:55) – Song parody by Jim Gossett, introduced by Rob Carson

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “There is serendipity here. There is something happening here. What it is ain’t exactly clear. Right?” (05:40 – Rob Carson)
• “We have seen in the last four years the death of the liberal media… they’re meaningless, right?” (03:33)
• "[Re: Jan 6] The worst injury was a broken finger. Yeah, sure. And it will always be shameful. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." (10:35 – Rob Carson)
• “Nobody believes that Jan 6 was Pearl Harbor… That’s Eric Swallows. Well, December 7, 1941, September 11, and January six… because they are seared into our memory. Maybe because you forgot.” (16:57 – Rob Carson)
• “Israel did say it was going to hunt down and kill every Hamas leader. Now, having said that… I’m concerned at reports that the US was not notified about this in advance.” (24:10-24:35 – Fred Fleitz)
• "I think we’re seeing populist conservative movements gaining support in Europe because they’re tired of the radical left’s attack on free speech, out of control immigration, and the radical green agenda…" (33:17 – Fred Fleitz)

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Key Takeaways

• Poland and Russia: No consensus on whether the drone incident was deliberate provocation or misadventure, but seen as a dangerous escalation.
• Middle East Volatility: Israel is unapologetically targeting Hamas leadership worldwide, causing diplomatic ripples in U.S.-Israel-Qatar relations.
• Populist Momentum in Europe: Increasingly, European electorates are turning right as a reaction to policies perceived as undermining security, economic growth, and cultural integrity.
• Domestic U.S. Politics: The show maintains a combative stance toward the Biden administration and mainstream media, asserting that new facts/failures are being whitewashed or ignored.
• Parody as Protest: Satirical songs and comedic sketches serve both to entertain and to underscore the show’s contrarian message.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Personal & Show Reflections: 01:16 – 07:31
• Revised U.S. Economic Data / Political Spin: 07:31 – 12:47
• January 6th Revisited / Government Overreach: 12:47 – 22:26
• Middle East Israel-Hamas-Qatar Developments: 22:26 – 29:20
• Russian Drones in Poland / Europe’s Rightward Shift: 29:20 – 36:28
• Closing Parodies & Satire Segment: 37:27 – 38:59

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Final Thoughts

For listeners, this episode is fast-paced, irreverent, and heavily opinionated—packed with humor and parody while addressing unfolding world crises. Rob Carson leans heavily into mockery to dismiss official narratives, assert conservative populist resurgence, and question media and establishment motives at every juncture.

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[Fred Flights]

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[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show. This is hour number two of the Rob Carson show as we broadcast from Washington D.C. see, every day that I live here, I know I'm here for a reason. I know I am here for a reason. My goodness. I mean, can you explain? Okay, just let me. You and I have been together for a while. Maybe you're a new viewer or listener to the show. Perhaps you probably a good chance you're a new viewer to the show because we only started doing the live stream in December and immediately became Newsmax number one streaming product. I know, it's crazy, right? Isn't it crazy? Millions of people every week, millions of views every week. And, you know, and I said, you guys have been with me for the last five years from the worst of the worst. Five years ago, when I just started, I was, you know, drunk, selling cars, had a miracle happen, and then went through all of this bullcrap. The stolen election in 2020. You can't say that. Yeah, I can't stick it. All of this nonsense, the political attempt to assassinate Donald Trump, but politically, physically, go after him in every way, shape and form, and then go after us, censor us, arrest us, go after people who, to these, these school board meetings with CRT and all this. We went through this together. We went through trials and tribulations and what happens at the end of tribulation? Enlightenment. Enlightenment. Enlightenment. And I think it's happening. Why would I move here? And two weeks later, Donald Trump tried the most audacious crime reduction program in our nation's history that resulted in Washington D.C. the armpit of America as far as crime is concerned, becoming in three weeks a jewel of safety. Why would that happen? Why would I be here to witness? Why would we be here unless there was some sort of serendipity about it? I knew I had to live here. I knew I had to be here for at least the next four years and hopefully another eight years after this with somebody who has gone to Trump University and will graduate and do the same thing. There is serendipity to this. Things are happening here, things are happening now. We have seen in the last four years the death of the liberal media. Abc, cbs, NBC, pbs, npr, defunded federally. All of them, they're meaningless, right? You know, last night I watching this litany of unemployed people who used to work at NBC and msnbc. Joy Reid, not Jake Tapper, Don Lemon, Chuck Todd, all of them are done. They're just on, they're doing podcasts, that's it. They're done. They're done, they're done. Don Lemon goes out and does a man on the street stuff and they make fools of him like, you suck. You know, it's remarkable. This is bigger than I could have ever imagined. But we're here and we have to be stewards of this movement to end the bullcrap and the nonsense. And we can do it with joy and patriotism. And I'm going to mock, ridicule, make fun of these mother bleepers every stinkin day as we move forward and we march out of Washington D.C. and we go to Chicago. We save the inner cities of Chicago and the people there who've lived generation after generation after generation. Remember that song from Elvis in the early 70s, in the ghetto? Remember? I know, it sounds so dated and everything, but it talks about a young. Doesn't say he's black, but, you know, it's implied, you know, decides he's. Then one night, the man in desperation, a young man breaks away, steals a car, buys a gun, tries to run, but he doesn't get far. And his mama cries in the ghetto. And then the next morning, another generation is born. That was like 1971. And that has happened. This is a stupid song about Elvis. Oh, shut up. No, it's actually real. It's very real. You can't say ghetto. It's racist. You know, really, I hate to tell you this, a lot of black people call it a ghetto. You know, when you talk like Jasmine Crockett A lot of people, you know, a lot of people say, yeah, she's talking ghetto. You can't say that. Yeah, I just did. There is serendipity here. There is something happening here. There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear. Right? It's, it's, it's just crazy. It's just crazy. I'm gonna get to more with the shooting in North. Not the shooting, the stabbing of Irina Zarutska on the show. I've got a lot of audio. I want to get to that, but I have to get to some other things. I have to get to some other things. US economy added 1. Nearly 1 million fewer jobs in the year so through March 30, 2025, than previous reporting, according to preliminary figures released Tuesday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Donald Trump's economic revolution isn't working. Oh, my God. No. Inflation actually is down. Is down, is down, is down. And then to explain the numbers right there, the revised numbers, listen. And the benchmark year, March 2024-2025, shows that the job growth was vastly weaker during the Biden administration than ever previously reported. That was all the administration between this revision and last year's job growth was actually overstated by approximately 2 million jobs. Brian Krassenstein. I love this guy. All right. Largest markdown. The great Carl Higby came in. Leisure and hospitality, 176. Professional business services, 150. Trump is destroying our economy yet. Dude, you didn't even read the whole article. Because that new data does show that the U.S. economy did add nine hundred and eleven thousand fewer jobs, but that was over the twelve months ending in March. So that, you know, KRASSENSTEIN and all 4 foot 11 of him didn't understand that that's 11 months of Biden's presidency. This is why Trump has stepped up his calls for the Fed to cut the rate and my calls to abolish the Fed.

[Fred Flights]

But this is what the left does. They just say whatever they want. They know it's not true and they.

[Rob Carson]

Hope if they repeat the lie long enough, you'll forget.

[Fred Flights]

As you pointed out, 83% of that time period was when Biden was running.

[Rob Carson]

The country or it was a bleep show. You know how I know that? Because I frigging lived it. I watched it. I walked to the grocery store. I remember going to, you know, I've told you the story before. Chicken breasts were A$98 at Walmart when Donald Trump was the president. And literally less than a year later, they were 298 on sale. And then you got Eric swallows well, and is, you know, going to the grocery store. Oh, and he's like, in, you know, Whole Foods, look at the price of cheese. It's $14 a pound. Well, it's because you're in fricking Whole Foods, you moron. But Joe Biden caused the price of everything to go up. And I witnessed it. I watched people working, having to work two or three jobs to pay the same bills. It was obvious. And things are amazing. And getting better, getting better all the time. It's going to take a while. Because the Democrats made things suck so badly. Small business optimism ticked higher in August as owners reported better sales expectations, improving profits, but showed little evidence of passing on higher costs from tariffs. Shut the front door. Yeah. National Federation of Independent Business and Small business optimism index. 0.5 points to 100.8, whatever that means. Above the long term average of 98. Surveys showed a slowdown in price pressures. And at 21% of owners said they raised average selling prices, down 3 points from the lowest reading this year. Planned price increases also eased with a debt 26% expecting to charge more in the next few months. 11% cited inflation as their top concern, unchanged for the third straight month. It's going to get easier to make it to. It's going to get easier to run a business. Donald Trump. I don't know if you remember this. For every new regulation proposed, get rid of three. That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing. Yeah. It's remarkable. But, you know, the Democrats are trying to distract, distract, distract. Here is Hakeem Jeffries saying the abbot on day one, Donald Trump didn't bring down the price of whatever you. I mean, honestly. Wow. And, oh, then he tries to. Then he tries to, to distract using January 6th. Here it is. Hold on. Come on. In fact, Donald Trump promised that he would lower costs on day one.

[Fred Flights]

That hasn't happened.

[Rob Carson]

Why didn't it happen? Because on day one, Donald Trump was too busy pardoning hundreds of violent felons who brutally beat police officers. Well, that's January 6th. He distracted with January 6th, which was a lie, by the way. A giant frigging lie. It was a Reichstag moment they created. A million people came to Washington, D.C. to protest a stolen and rigged election. It was. There's no doubt about it. They censored everything we had to say. They censored every damned viewpoint that conservatives had, including, hey, I think that election was rigged and stolen. Yeah. And then once they got him here, they infiltrated the crowd. They infiltrated the crowd with. With. With antifa and government agents from the FBI and let them in the door and then shot flashbang grenades into the crowd. There were a couple hundred minor injuries of police officers. The worst injury was a broken finger. The worst energy injury was a broken finger on January 6th. It's shameful. Yeah, it was shameful then. Yeah, sure. And it will always be shameful. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's honestly just a bunch of crap. You know, it's kind of funny. This is Michael A. Smith. And, you know, he's a. Stephen A. Smith. I'm sorry? Stephen A. Smith. He's a big library sportscaster who occasionally shows a little bit of common sense. Doesn't mean he's ever going to be president, but anyway, listen to him. The news comes amidst a bombshell report from the Justice Department. Yes, yes. That revealed the FBI had at least 26 confidential informants on the ground when the Capitol was stormed on January 6, 2021. The report says most of the informants engaged in illegal activity. What? During the chaos? Really? The justice department says only three of its 26 informants present had been instructed to observe potential domestic terrorist suspects on the day of the riot. The rest of the 23 appeared to have gone to the Capitol on their own accord. Really? Upon hearing news of the report, Vice President elect J.D. vance posted the following on X quote, for those keeping score at home, this was labeled a dangerous conspiracy theory months ago. End quote. Didn't hear anything about that for the election. Yeah. You know, and then there were hundreds, thousands of people. The FBI were weaponized against them for doing nothing but entering a bill, a door that was already open. They led them in and they destroyed their lives. And they put people in jail for four years without a trial. And they denied the medical treatment. Some of them spent over a year in solitary confinement. Some of them moved around to different prisons. 14, 15 prisons, solitary confinement for a year. Oh, this is not going away, Hakeem. No, no, no, it is not going away because we have waited a very long time. You want to call it retribution? Okay, let's call it retribution. You bet your assets retribution. I've got more on the other side of this break. Let's take that break. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Fred Flights]

Fasten your seat belt deep state.

[Rob Carson]

It's gonna be a bumpy ride. It's the Rob Carson Show. It is the special election yesterday in Fairfax county in Virginia, Democrat James Walkinshaw won. It was a heavy, heavy lift for Republican Stuart Whitson, who we had on the show yesterday. Great admiration for that gentleman. Very heavy lift to. To take Gerry Connolly's seat after being in there forever. There was a. There was a Democrat machine in that. In that county. So unfortunately, you know, what they predicted happened. It doesn't mean that Whitson is an amazing dude and there'll be a future in politics for him elsewhere. Just, you know, when you got, like I said, a Democrat machine in that county and it can be turned around, it's going to be. It's going to be difficult. Virginia 2025. Governor Poll, Abigail Spam. All filler, no meat, 48%. Winsome Earl Sears. 43. Abigail Spam Burger was way out in front there. You can do anything you want with Spam. It's still gonna suck. I mean, it really does. You can fry it. You can put pineapple on it. You can put it in a sandwich. It's gonna suck. She's like, spam. She kind of sucks. And no, I'm not gonna say it. Something about in the can. But anyway, for Lieutenant Governor John Reed. John Reed. Gajala Hajme. Now you're thinking, oh, man, Haji's got to be way out in front there, you know? No, John reed's ahead by three. Whoa. John Reed. Come on. 45. 42. Unbelievable. So a real opportunity coming up in November to have a gigantic change in. In. Or at least I should say a continuation of Republican rule and. And goodness in the state of Virginia, which is now my home. Which is now my home. There you go. Gold on the rise, by the way. I think it's because Donald Trump is decking out the Oval Office with lots of gold. Do you suppose that's part of it? Have you seen it? I mean, it's like. It's like Julius Caesar meets Graceland. It's. I love it. Have you ever been to Mar a Lago? I was invited to Mar a Lago. Once you go French colonial, you really got to go. You can't have, like, mid century over here and French colonial over here and Asian over here. You got to go all gold. All like the Versailles, the Palace of Versailles, the whole deal. That's what he's doing. Maybe. Maybe it's bringing up the price of gold. I don't know. But right now, gold Bullion is up 35% this year. $3,600 a month an ounce. Yeah. Last year was under 3,000. Maybe it's time for you to invest in gold. And it tells September 30th. If you're a first time gold buyer, Birch Gold is giving you a rebate up to $10,000 in free metals qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility, start the process. Request an info kit. Just text rob2989898 plus birchgold can get you rolling on your IRA or 401k that's lying there like Joe Biden's brain waves. You can. You can get that. You can convert that and still be eligible for the $10,000 in free battles. Holy crud. So right now, make your first time gold buyer. They'll be gentle. They will. They'll be loving. Maybe even stroke your hair a little bit. $10,000 rebate up to by September 30th. Text my name. Rob to 989898. Rob to 9 89898. Claim your eligibility. Get free, get gold info, birch gold. Rob to 98 9898. Nobody believes that that January 6th was Pearl Harbor. In 9 11, what are the three most important dates in American history? That's eric swallows. Well, December 7, 1941, September 11 and January six. Yeah, the last two. I didn't even have to give you the years. Yeah, sure. Because they are seared into our memory. Maybe because you forgot. Listen. And because we saw them with our own eyes. I think he forgot the date like he did here. And there's three days in American history.

[Fred Flights]

That are the most important.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. December 6th, 1941. Pearl harbor was born. Sure.

[Fred Flights]

September 11th and January 6th.

[Rob Carson]

I don't have to tell you the years of the last two because they're seared in our memory. But we also saw them with our own eyes. Wow. September 11, 2001 and January 6, 2020. There's a classic. Come on. News flash. Nobody gives a about it. We all admit that was pretty dumb. But that's about it. When we saw the news, we were shocked. And we were kind of tense like damn. Then we forgot about it. By the 10th. Nobody's walking around stressing over jam six. It happened and that was it. We haven't gave a damn since. It's all good when riots are kept in the hood. But now you're freaking out cause this was in the neck of your woods. Now it's a big deal. Now it gets real. Now it's important to us. Not back then in 2020 when stores were boarded up. Not back then when goods were looted and folks were brutalized. Not then, but right now. Cause it happened to the suit and ties. That shit's Way above my head. We were all here with demonstrations that left dozens dead. But people like Nancy didn't flinch. In fact, they loved it. Then people will do what they that what you said. There's literally compilation videos of you and all your colleagues inciting this kind of crap. So it's very fascinating to watch you swallow your words, you put your own foot in your mouth, and now you're forced to dial it back. It's fine when you encourage it in my town, in his town, in her town, when the whole city's being burned down, you smile as you give the green light for mobs to rob. But as soon as it comes close to you, then it's a problem. Yeah. And it was, by the way, a Reichstag moment. Everybody knows it was a bloody Reichstag moment. Everybody knows it was the best deal. I told you it was the Bastille. I told you they created a Bastille. We are a bourgeois. We are a proletariat. We are the proletariat. The bourgeois moves to Washington, D.C. spends their entire lives telling us how to live. Ours have enriched themselves beyond their wildest dreams. Emptied our treasury into their NGOs and their buddies and big pharma and big defense and big everything and big charity and big child trafficking. And then to top it all off, they created a Bastille. And they loaded it with people who went to Washington D.C. to protest an election that was absolutely rigged and stolen. And they kept him in jail for four years, some in solitary confinement for a year. And we broke down the walls to that Bastille. And now it's time to put the sobs who did this to us in that jail for life. Ain't gonna work. Nobody believes your nonsense. Nobody believes your nonsense. Do you hear that? Msnbc. Here's MSNBC last night. They may know, as Congressman Moscow has said, and yet they are acting like they are just full of questions and have no answers to all the questions that they have. This was a new January six committee and the Democrats are a clown show on the committee Loudermilk statement from yesterday. Quote, our goal is to answer the remaining questions, uncover all the facts, and implement reforms so this level of security failure never happens again. Yeah, sure. It is time to finish the job. So a few things there. One, this idea that the real question about what happened on January 6th is a, quote, security failure, I think that is already an attempt to whitewash and reframe this. And then also when he says it's time to finish the job is the job he's Referring to investigating the investigation. No, we want to put the, the bastards in prison who did this to those people because it was all nonsense. It was a setup. It was a takedown. Everybody understands it. I could say that now. It used to be called disinformation. You know what? I don't play by those rules anymore. Fred Flights joins us on the other side to talk about Poland shooting down Russian drones. We didn't get them this time. We'll get them the next time. Israel, under Prime Minister Netanyahu is changing the face of the Middle East. We have degraded Hezbollah, We've degraded Hamas, Houthis, and Iran. The head of the snake that's leading these proxies in an effort to destroy Israel. When we defeat these proxies of Iran, we defeat Islamic extremism. And actually that will benefit our neighbors in the region who are moderate and want to live in a state of peace with us. So right now, we may be subject to a little bit of criticism. They'll get over it. And Israel is being changed for the better. The region is being changed for the better as we remove these enemies of peace and these enemies of Western civilization from their ability to implement terrorism. Now, that is the United States ambassador from Israel, Michael Leiter, talking about how the, the Netanyahu administration vaporized some, some Hamas leaders in Qatar. Qatar. They're calling it Qatar again, by the way. I had a, I had a discussion with, with a gentleman from the, the Israeli government. He's the governor of the, of one of the largest areas, Israel, Gans, and they're calling it Qatar again because that's the way it should be. But anyway, they vaporized some, some of these billionaire Hamas leaders in Qatar or Qatar. And, you know, everybody got all bent out of shape about it. But Israel's being unapologetic and they shouldn't. And it doesn't sound like they're giving up on wiping from the face of the earth, which I think is a good thing. Joining us to talk about this and other things is the great Fred Flights. How are you, my friend?

[Fred Flights]

Pretty good. Good to be here.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Good to have you here. So what do you think about the, the nuking of the Hamas members in Qatar yesterday?

[Fred Flights]

Well, there's a lot to talk about here. We know that these Hamas terrorists, and these are the, the people who planned the brains of this October 7th massacre. They've been living in luxury in Qatari hotels for years, and the US And Israel has asked the Qatari government to kick them out. There's no other government. Well, there's two others that let them live in their country. One of them is Lebanon. I'm pretty sure they're not Lebanon anymore. The other one is Turkey. But the Saudis won't let them in. UAE won't let them in. Bahrain won't let them in. Iraq won't let them in. I mean, these are. This is really the only place that they can live in relative luxury. And they thought they were safe there. Although we heard yesterday that these Hamas leaders were moving around a lot because they thought there was a possibility that they might be attacked. I think Israel has to do what it needs to do to defend its security. And these leaders were not negotiating good faith. And Israel did say it was going to hunt down and kill every Hamas leader. Now, having said that, yes, I'm concerned at reports that the US Was not notified about this in advance, that President Trump learned about it, because apparently the air force detected Israeli planes flying towards Qatar. I don't know how true all that is, but I don't know how these Israeli planes would fly over Saudi Arabia without the Saudis and US Knowing about us. I'm sort of wondering what's really going on here. But if the Israelis did this without telling Trump in advance, it's at least a pretty serious process.

[Rob Carson]

Now, here is President Trump talking in d. See about that. Well, I'm not thrilled.

[Fred Flights]

I'm not thrilled about it. I don't have to do that. I'm just.

[Rob Carson]

I'm not thrilled about the whole situation. It's not.

[Fred Flights]

Not a good situation.

[Rob Carson]

But I will say this.

[Fred Flights]

We want the hostages back, but we are not thrilled about the way that went down today.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Now, I was talking to, as I mentioned earlier, this gentleman who is Israel Gans about why Netanyahu hasn't just moved in and occupied Gaza and mentioned that it might be coming from the Trump administration because they want to get the hostages and all of that. So either Trump is genuinely mad about it, or he's doing it with a wink, at a nod. I'm kind of leaning into. I think he sounded a little upset about it.

[Fred Flights]

Yeah. I've had some discussion with Trump officials, and I think the position's evolving. I don't want to say more than that.

[Rob Carson]

Okay. Okay.

[Fred Flights]

And I think Trump made it clear that there obviously are good reasons to attack Hamas officials. He seems to be concerned about our relationship with a state who's been helping us negotiate peace agreements. And not just in Gaza. I mean, Qatar's been busy in a number of states, but Qatar also has been funding Hamas Yes. And they shouldn't have been allowing Hamas leaders to live in their country. And this is a bad situation. Some of us thought this was coming for a while. Either Israel or the US Might eventually do this. And anyway, I think we will move beyond this. This is not an issue that's going to hurt Israeli relations in the long term.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, but what about US Qatar relations? Because, you know, President Trump went over there and they gave him all sorts of money, trillion dollars to come to the United States investing. This is a big deal. Is Qatar. Are they talking out of both sides of their mouth? What's going on? Can we trust them? If they're allowing these people to live there and everything, is Donald Trump gonna have to give them a little what fur a little talk too about, hey, you better get out of this business, you better get out of the terror business. What do you think?

[Fred Flights]

Well, the problem there is that the US Government has agreed to let Qatar do this for a number of years. And when Qatar was giving money to the Palestinian Authority, knowing some would go to Hamas, the US Government was okay with that for quite a while because we thought it was a way to buy off Hamas so we would not engage in acts of terror and that maybe we could use Qatar as intermediaries. So basically the Qatars are thinking that the US should make up its mind. I don't think that's a valid way of looking at things, but I understand how that would be their interpretation.

[Rob Carson]

Well, Israel has said since yesterday we are going to wipe them out. There's no if, ands or buts about it. There's no negotiating coming from the Israeli side. They're not going to shake hands with Hamas and say, okay, we're going to go ahead. They want to occupy and rid Gaza of Hamas. That's just it. That's just all. Now Qatar is calling for retaliation against Israel for the strike and dope Doha. What the heck is Qatar going to do retaliatorily to Israel because of this?

[Fred Flights]

I haven't heard that Qatar has called for retaliation against Israel. I hope that isn't true. That would be extremely unhelpful. But Israel's position concerning Hamas is that it's not going to agree to any kind of settlement of the war that leaves any possibility that Hamas will survive as a post organization that could run Gaza. And the Europeans are pressing Israel to stop the war. Now that would result in that.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, bullcrap.

[Fred Flights]

Israel won't agree.

[Rob Carson]

Exactly. Well, Qatari Prince Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed Al Thani. I won't read the Entire name vowed on Tuesday to retaliate against Israel. The state of Qatar is committed to act in a defensive way with anything that would target its territories and will reserve its right to retaliate and will take all the needed measures to retaliate. I'm not thinking that's a very good idea.

[Fred Flights]

No, Qatar can't go to war with Israel.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, they can't.

[Fred Flights]

It would be a mistake.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah. And then also because big bro is over here and he's, he's got a place in the White House. I'm not thinking that's going to happen anytime soon. But what, what would you. Fred. And we're going to move it. We're going to take a break here in a second and I want to talk about Poland. On the other side of the break in Russia. But what needs to be done. Donald Trump has said he would pay, like people who live in Gaza $5,000 to evacuate the area. They go in, they gut it us, they start rebuilding. And then, you know, whatever happens, what do you think is going to happen? What does, what has to happen?

[Fred Flights]

I don't think that plan is going to happen. I hope it does. It's the best plan. But I believe Trump's call to move people out of Gaza and to make it into a luxury resort is putting pressure on the Arab states to come up with their own proposals to rebuild Gaza themselves. And I know Egypt and Qatar, every time Trump mentions his plan, it encourages them to press their own plan, which I think actually are pretty good. I'm hoping that's what we'll have. We'll have the Arabs taking responsibility for Gaza to come up with a post war plan that does not include Hamas.

[Rob Carson]

Well, what I'd like to see is Donald Trump employ Palestinians to build a pyramid, a Luxor casino on the shores there. And you know, because you know what the, what they did to the Jews a couple thousand years ago, I think it's kind but we them this time. So that's, that's my idea. Listen, friend, I want to talk on the other side of the break, if you can stay about what happened with Poland shooting down Russian drones. If you got a moment, would you, can you do that, sir? All right, let's take a break and come back more with Fred Flights on the Rob Carson Show. Don't go anywhere. They can end this now, this moment. They can lay down their weapons like Arafat did in Lebanon in 1982 and leave. And this can be a over. We want this war to be over. We want to implement A cease fire in which everybody will benefit. But we're not going to live with jihadis on our border anymore. That's over. These people are murderous thugs. Imagine just MS.13 taking over a neighborhood here in the United States and then negotiating with them after they hold hostages in tunnels. Yeah. This is something that is absolutely unacceptable in human terms, in simple human, moral terms. This is going to be over when Hamas is eliminated and they're put on notice. The Prime Minister put them on notice. Wherever they are, whenever they are, they are on notice. Yeah, they wrote their, their death warrant on October 7th. Anyway, Fred flights joins us on the Newsmax hotline. He is a former NSC Chief of Staff, the Trump administration and a senior fellow in America First Policy Institute. Fred, let's move on to what happened in Poland. Poland shooting down Russian drones. What's going on?

[Fred Flights]

It certainly was a very alarming incident yesterday and experts are trying to figure out what happened. Is this a provocation? The Russians are trying to cause trouble or test NATO air defenses? Were these drones maybe off course and jammed? Some of them were shot down. Now Russia does not have a border with Poland except for the Kaliningrad enclave which is next to Lithuania and Poland. But I think drones are being flown out of Belarus which does border Poland and Ukraine. I wonder if the drones are flown out of Belarus and they may have went on course. We just don't know yet. Given how bad relations are right now with Putin, I sort of wondering if he was simply trying to make trouble.

[Rob Carson]

I gotta tell you, I think that's pretty stupid thing to do. Really, really do. What the hell are you thinking? I mean, people are already concerned about the possibility of Russia doing something with Poland and expanding beyond Ukraine, which ain't happen because they can't kick Ukraine's butt, for God's sake. So why in the hell would they try to take on Poland? I don't know what this was.

[Fred Flights]

Well, they were not fired at Poland. They went through Polish airspace.

[Rob Carson]

Gotcha.

[Fred Flights]

Ukraine.

[Rob Carson]

Gotcha.

[Fred Flights]

I just would like to see the trajectory of exactly how did that happen? Where were they fired from? Yeah, it's very possible they were fired from. From, from Belarus and they flew off course. And there is a lot of jamming of missiles and drones by the Ukraine. So it's conceivable that they went off course. But, but I also think it's possible that Putin is trying to be provocative, thinking this will advance his agenda.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it's not going to work. It's pretty to me that's, I mean, are you kidding? I mean, really, if you did this intentionally, are you out of your mind? It makes no sense whatsoever. Polish. The new Polish prime minister or president was in Washington D.C. it looks like, you know, Poland has moved Right. Which is fantastic. It looks like Turkey has moved right. Right. You've got France. I mean, all sorts of things happening in France. Marie Le Pen cannot, cannot run for office for another five years because of bull crap charges. They've kept her off the ballot. But it looks like Europe is moving rightward. It looks like people are kind of done with this open borders and radical Islam in, in Great Britain. What do you think's happening in all of those countries, particularly with, with Poland?

[Fred Flights]

I think we're seeing populist conservative movements gaining support in Europe because they're tired of the radical left. There's attack on free speech, there's out of control immigration, and this immigration is bringing in radical Islamists into these countries. And there's the radical green agenda which is destroying their economies and is making Europe dependent upon Russia. You know, Europe is still importing 1.1 billion euros a year in Russian energy. And some of it's going to Eastern Europe, some of it is going to Belgium. And, you know, the Europeans are always criticizing the US on its policies towards Russia. And where's the pressure from Europe on Russia and on buyers of Russian energy? The US is doing that. Trump made a point that Europe has to do this, too. The US can't do that.

[Rob Carson]

Well, also, we've, you know, Joe Biden unknowingly, I guess, signed that, that order to not export our natural gas. Now we're, we're going to be supplying Europe, certainly England, with national gas, natural gas. So that's going to be good for our economy, bad for Russia as well.

[Fred Flights]

Yeah, you know, the, the radical left in Biden tried to discourage people from using natural gas. I know they try to discourage its discovery and production and, and plot to sell it because they would like us to be on entirely, I guess, battery operated and wind and solar economy. And that's impossible.

[Rob Carson]

I know, I know. I want to mention also, I saw this video went viral yesterday. Polish presidential candidate, I believe he was Gregory Braun or Gregory Braun burning an EU flag. That was a pretty powerful signal to, to the left in Europe that we're kind of done with your nonsense.

[Fred Flights]

Yeah. The European Union is a terrible leftist group of bureaucrats. I've had a chance to talk to Hungarian officials about that. They are so happy to defy what the EU bureaucrats do. And you know what Hungary's doing. Which really annoys the European Union is that they will not take their quota of illegal migrants that come into other countries because Hungary has decided that when you do that, it causes crime to increase.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Fred Flights]

And they're right. Crimes quite low in Hungary and they're being fined every year for not taking their quota of illegal migrants. The Hungarians say send them back, don't send them here.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, you know, I think as I've mentioned, if you've listened to my show, I said that this, what happened on November 5th is going to spread around the world. It's going to, I know it's going to spread around the world. You've got Venezuela teetering right now. You've got a lot of places that are, and it's going to be worldwide. We're going to get, it's this, this new world leftist order that has run roughshod over the world with all of the same nonsense, you know, open borders, you know, dei, all of this nonsense. It's, it's, I think it's gonna, it's spreading, it's spreading faster than I thought that the, the defeat of this. So we'll be hopeful. Fred Flights, such a pleasure to have you on. Getting your perspective from everything today has been incredibly valuable. Where can people find all of your work, sir?

[Fred Flights]

Well, if you go to americafirstpolicy.com you can check out our website and I am on Twitter Red Flights.

[Rob Carson]

Have a glorious weekend, my friend. We'll talk again soon. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is not an EV and it never will be. It is a Rob Carson show. I will get an EV When I listen to. In a neighborhood where they allow those souped up golf carts. I'm one, one of those bad boys. A lot of people, you know, even younger people buying golf carts, living in neighborhoods that can go around in golf carts. I, I want to get one of those golf carts and live in a, a neighborhood that allows such things. I think it would be a lot of fun. We have so much to get to on the show that I haven't had a chance to get to as the show progresses. I thought that was a fascinating interview with Fred flight. This is KT McFarland. She's going to be on our show tomorrow talking about Israel.

[Fred Flights]

Yahoo. You know, it's pretty clear that Netanyahu has now decided the negotiations aren't working. So whether he's gone after Hezbollah or Hamas or the Houthis, they're now taking action.

[Rob Carson]

Hoot, hoot, Houthis, goodbye.

[Fred Flights]

And they're defending themselves. And the thing to remember about this attack and the killing of these terrorists, these are people who weren't just political guys who were negotiating peace deals or failing to negotiate peace deals. These were people who planned and participated in the killing of Israelis. And Israel is taking the stand. You kill Israelis, we come get you.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, we are going to. And it's time to unwrap a classic on the Rob Carson show by Mr. Jim Gazette. Bomb Hamas, put up a parking lot.

[Fred Flights]

Saturday at 12 o' clock and if.

[Rob Carson]

They'Re not here all hell is going to break down.

[Fred Flights]

Come on, Hamas has a deadline Saturday at noon. If they miss it, hell will break out soon Hamas will have to go.

[Rob Carson]

And we'll all be better off when they're gone.

[Fred Flights]

Send them to paradise, put up a parking lot Send a moss to paradise.

[Rob Carson]

Put up a parking lot Carpet bomb.

[Fred Flights]

Them let's give them all we've got.

[Rob Carson]

Magic carpet bomb them A moss has got to know.

[Fred Flights]

Release them all or you will be screwed. Back down to you.

[Rob Carson]

Donald Trump will not obliterate them make them a parking lot. There you go. That is Jim Gossett, by the way. If you want to download his stuff, he's got a Patreon page. It's P A T r e o n.com Jim Gossett comedy All right, so patreon.com Jimmy Gossip comedy $10 a month. All right, about cost of Netflix, right? And there's nothing on Netflix. Jim, Godzilla is going to give you two parodies every friggin day. Brilliant stuff. More brilliant than anything I wrote with Paul Shanklin at Rush Limbaugh. More brilliant any day. Absolutely incredible stuff. And it continues. It continues the tradition I started with the Rush Limbaugh program. Starts and continues. Right, Cheer. There you go. We got another hour of the show coming up. If I were you, I wouldn't go anywhere. No, don't, don't.