Primary Lessons & Party Problems - The Rob Carson Show

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Mary Walter
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Jimmy Keady
Hold it now. You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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Deplora Bella
Foreign.
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Mary Walter
Welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. I'm Mary Walter. I'm sitting in the seat for Rob today, tomorrow and Friday. I'm so happy to be with you. I'm so happy to be able to sit in the seats. Great audience, so good engagement. Speaking of which, you can get a hold of me at 8009-2266-8080-0922-6680 or you can tag me in a post over at X at Mary Walter Radio. No s just Mary Walter Radio. My podcast is live on Tuesday evening, 7:15pm Eastern Time. It is live on Rumble, YouTube and Getter. And it's great because you can ask questions, you can leave comments. And we have a really, really good group of people that just keeps growing and we're in different countries now. We have viewers so who participate. So it's a lot of fun. We just had on a comedian. Fred Verbino was on with us last night and he was very funny and that was a lot of fun. So it's not always political. It's a lot of different things. It's not always political. Rob has been on several times and that's, that's always an hour of insanity. Rob is so great. So I have fun with Rob. So he's been on a couple times as well. So not always political. And I guarantee you there are names there that you will know. You can get the audio on Apple podcasts, Spotify and Spreaker. Again, look for Mary Walter Radio. Oh, oh. And later today I will be on Newsmax 2 at 5:15 on with Ike Wingate on Newsmax 2. As I said, you just go to YouTube, type in Newsmax the number 2 and live and it'll come right up. And then on Thursday, tomorrow I will be on Newsmax 2 with Ed Henry at 6:40 I believe it is can check 6 6. Between 6 and 6:30 I'll be on with Ed Henry on Newsmax 2. And then on Saturday I'm on with oh, Saturday morning I'm doing rita Cosby at 12:30 on Newsmax, regular Newsmax. And to one of these days I'll check but I'll, I'll let you know each day. So when I'm going to be on Tomorrow I'm also on Newsmax at wait. I wake up America early at 6:40 in the morning. Dear Lord, deliver me. Because you got to get up and do your hair and makeup. Men don't have to do that. Guys can get up 15 minutes beforehand, run their fingers through their hair, put on a nice shirt, have their pajama bottoms on and off they go. And they could do the hit. I got to get up, we got to do our hair, we got to do our makeup, we got to do the whole thing. I can't just put on a T shirt. I gotta look somewhat nice. And so 6:40 tomorrow morning on Newsmax on Wake Up America Early. You'll see me there. So, so yeah, you can also if you follow me on X at Mary Walter Radio, I post everything. So it's, it's all there. All right. I just wanted to go through some news here for it with you because there's a lot of news that is happening that I wanted to, to go over with you and the court. A district court on Thursday blocked New York from enforcing their assisted suicide law against four orders of Catholic nuns and several Catholic health care ministries as their religious liberty lawsuit is continuing.
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Rob Carson
All right.
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Mary Walter
The temporary agreement which New York agreed to will shield the Catholic nuns and ministries from being forced to take part in any assisted suicides when the law legaling the practice goes into effect today. So this was an up against the clock type situation and the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty is representing these, these groups in court. The agreement will be in effect while the court considers the request for a preliminary injunction. Mark Rienzi, who is the president of Beckett, said forcing Catholic nuns to participate in suicide and robbing New Yorkers of the choice to receive faithful life affirming care is both unlawful and unjust. This agreement protects the sisters and those who care for and those they care for while we fight to end New York's suicide. MAN Good. The groups include the Carmelite Sisters, the Dominicans, the Benedictines, the Little Sisters, Bishop John Barres of the Diocese of Rockville center and Catholic Health. They're all suing over part of the law that requires them to provide referrals to patients who are interested in assisted suicide. Now you should know if you're going to a Catholic organization for healthcare, you should pretty much know what you're going to get. My, my grandfather and his sister would often stay with the nuns up in North Jersey when my parents would go away because my, my father, my grandfather lived with my mom and you know, his sister was living elsewhere but they would. They would send the two of them up to go live with the nuns, and they get to see each other. Had the men's wing and the woman's wing. Even though they're in. They were in, like, their, their 80s and 90s didn't matter. They had to sleep separately, couldn't compete together. And they had. They had curfew. But you should know what you're getting. I went to Villanova. I went to Catholic school. And you have to know that they had. They had curfews and they had, you know, you couldn't have someone in the room of the opposite sex after a certain time. And you had RAs, and some of the RAs were priests who, who checked. And, and so you know what you're signing up for. So you can't be surprised if they're not going to refer you to assisted suicide. How is that a shock to anybody? Like, how's that a surprise? And you can't conform. I'm sorry. But these religious groups, you have to know they're providing a service. If you don't want to partake of it, don't partake of it. No one's forcing you to partake of it. And that's why I think when it comes to religious things, we have to stop forcing these religious groups to kowtow to what the mainstream thinks it should be. That makes sense. So the complaint asked the U.S. district Court for the Northern District of New York to block the law before it takes effect on August 5th. The lawsuit alleges that if the law goes into effect, healthcare providers who refuse to take part in counseling referrals for assisted suicides will face significant fines, professional sanctions, and even criminal penalties. They wanted to jail the nuns. Who jails a nun? You just don't do that. They're cute, they're little. Who jails nuns? But this is what they do. They beat you into submission.
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Deplora Bella
They.
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Mary Walter
They use lawfare to literally drive you out of business. No one should be providing services. You should have to go to the government for your services. That's what they want. The lawsuit accuses New York of violating core constitutional protections. Excuse me, for religious freedom and freedom of speech, by compelling Catholic nuns and ministries to either violate their faith or risk state punishment. In February, New York became the 13th state, plus Washington, D.C. to legalize assisted suicide. It's called maid. The maid bill. It's what they use in Canada. They use that with abandoned. In Canada. Everybody, everybody gets referred to maid if you're over a certain age. And it allows assisted suicide for terminally ill New Yorkers with less than six months to live. So I think this is a step in the right direction. I don't like the government telling people how they have to run things. I just don't like it. And that's just me. I don't like the government telling people how to run their business. Stay out of it. If they're doing something egregious, then okay, I get it. But stay out of it. Otherwise.
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Caller/Guest
All right.
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Mary Walter
Rand Paul says that he will send Foushee contempt Foushee, a contempt referral straight to the DOJ if it passes committee. He said yesterday that he's going to send his contempt of Congress recommendation to prosecute Anthony Fauci directly to the doj. If the resolution passes out of committee later this week, the vote will take place tomorrow. On Thursday, the Senate. He clarified that although Fauci has received a presidential pardon. See, and this is the question we all have. Even he's got a presidential pardon, but his refusal to help the Senate is a crime of its own that is not covered under the pardon. The pardon excused any crime committed between 2014 and 2025. January 2025. He said, we have a law in Congress that if you will not testify to help an investigation is called contempt of Congress, and it is a felony. Now, the prosecution has to be through the doj. People get confused sometimes. And online people will criticize me sometimes and say, why won't you prosecute him? And it's like, I don't have prosecutorial power. The best his committee can do, Congress can do is refer to the DOJ for prosecution. He said he believes he can bypass the full chamber and send the referral to the DOJ directly. For he sends a DOJ directly because the recommendation is not a law. And the referral poses several important questions that the court has to decide. So the legal question is, can someone plead the Fifth? Can they plead their constitutional right not to incriminate themselves when they've already been given immunity through a pardon? There are arguments for this and there are some precedents. So that's the question everybody wants to see answered. And I think that that's going to happen. I'm sure Fauci's lawyers will appear, appeal it to the Supremes, and it's gone to the Supreme Court before in the past. So maybe it's up to them to decide. And they were proving by asking him all the questions. The theory was, I'm not a lawyer, but I watch a lot of legal tv. But apparently the theory was the reason they were asking him, I think it was Josh Hawley was asking him, what color is your tie, what color is the rug, what color is this? And he kept taking the Fifth was that they were proving that he wasn't going to answer any questions whatsoever. The questions he didn't need to take the Fifth on. And the other, the other thing I heard was because in the beginning he gave a statement and he addressed a lot of the issues. If you give a statement and you comment on what you're in front of Congress for, you have now forfeited your right to take the Fifth. Once you say something like that, you forfeit your right. When you start commenting on the proceedings and on the questions at hand, you lose your right to take the Fifth. So I don't know, but it'll be interesting to find out if and when this goes to, to Congress. Coming up, we're going to be joined by Jimmy Keaty to talk about the primary. And I just quickly. And we're going to go in after, after we speak with him. I've got some cuts that I want to play with you, but I just want to kick it off a little bit here going into this interview with Jimmy Keating with getting his comments. And I want to go to cut seven first, if that's possible there. I know I'm not going in order. I don't want to catch you off guard, Brian, but I want to go to cut seven first. And this is Senator Chris Van Hollen and they were asking him yesterday about whether Abdul El Said is too far left. Now remember, he was blowing it out, blowing Haley Stevens out in the polls, the polls before the, before the primary election. He was supposed to win by, you know, 10, 20, 30 points. And he won by less than a point, less than 1%. And she was doing really well with non college educated, with people who are blue collar, people who work less wealthy. She did really well with them. The people who voted for El Said were the college educated. So in other words, the indoctrinated and those who have a lot of money. So they think that it's not going to affect them, that the socialism isn't going to bother them. It ain't gonna get me. It's okay. And if they do come after me, I'll just pick up and move and then I'll go vote for blue somewhere else and start the process all over again. So it was interesting how it broke down. So here's Chris Van Hollen and he was asked about Abdullah El Said. Now remember, these are people who didn't think a Nazi tattoo was a disqualifier if it's on their guy, if it's on a Republican, it's terrible. But on their guy it's totally fine. Here's Chris Van Hollen.
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Jimmy Keady
You've heard the arguments. He's too far left in a purple state. What do you say to that?
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Caller/Guest
John I think that's dead wrong. I think in this case, Abdul El Sayed has been the populist candidate among the Democrats, the anti status quo candidate among the Democrats. And he understands that this is not so much left versus right as it is folks at the very top, the top 1%, rigging the economy and the rules of the game in a way that benefits them and hurts workers and everybody else.
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Mary Walter
So here's my question. Chris Van Hollen, well, what have you been doing with all your time in Congress? What have you been doing to not rig the game? What have you been doing? Why do they need EL Said to do what you have refused to do? I'm curious. So they all talk a good game and they also never talk about how they're going to accomplish any of the things that they promised to do. That never comes into play, which I find interesting. And nobody ever asked him. There's never a question by an interviewer in any of these mainstream outlets like, okay, how are you going to do that? How are you, how are you going to make Medicare for All happen? Because I got news for you. Medicare is not even going to happen for the people who are in their 50s. Gen Gen X is going to get screwed so badly with Medicare and Social Security. They are going to get hammered with it. And I already know, like I, my husband and I, we're Gen X. We, we've been planning for, for never having any of this our whole lives. But what about Chris Van Holland? What have you been doing? You, you know, it takes the communists to sort it out for you. Come on. I think that the Democrats are making very, very poor decisions here. They're, they're making a deal with the devil. We'll take the power because we want the seat, but they don't realize what they're inviting into their party and it's going to end badly for them, in my humble opinion. All right. More coming up. 8800-922 to talk more about El Said and whether I gotta tell you, I think him winning is actually good for Republicans because he's beatable. And I think it would have been harder to beat Haley Stevens because she's more moderate. I mean, she is an SNL skit. She's like an SNL character in and of herself. If, if SNL was still funny, they would have done a mock debate between the communist and, you know, the SNL character of Haley Stevens and it would have been hilarious. But they're not funny anymore. So they don't, don't do things like that. All right, we're going to talk about that coming up. And also the big tent, is that the excuse that the left is using, y'?
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Jimmy Keady
All?
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Mary Walter
Well, we got a big tent for welcoming in Nazis and Communists, etc. Or does not not play with more moderate voters. It's coming up on the Rob Carson Show.
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Jimmy Keady
Who would not want voter id?
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Caller/Guest
Only somebody that wants to che.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, we'll be interesting. It's going to be interesting to see how Mamdani gets around requiring ID to get into those government city run grocery stores. Because you know what's going to happen. I mean, you know, because the Democrats believe in the goodness of everyone and they trust everybody. You know, don't worry. There's penalties if they don't follow the law. According to Elizabeth Warren, it when people go into those government, the city run grow grocery stores and they just buy up a ton of stuff and then they resell it because that's exactly what's going to happen. They're it's going to be out on the street because now they've got street vendors like a third world country cooking up food on the sidewalk. They got all this stuff going on. No health inspection whatsoever. That's where all that food's going to be going. And they're putting the money in their pockets.
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Jimmy Keady
You watch.
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Mary Walter
You watch. So they're going to have to try to figure out a way to not require ID because of what exactly is going to happen with this city run grocery store, which is a horrific experiment. All right. Talking about the Democrats in the big tent and Elsa and Van Hollen on the El said bus, you know, because it's not too far. We have a big tent. And coming up, I've got some Chuck Schumer and Scott Jennings talking about the big tent. But right now, look who is here. It's Deplora Bella in Bridgeville, Delaware. Deplora Bella. Wow. I'm so excited I get to speak with you. Welcome to the Rob Carson Show. Hi.
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Deplora Bella
Well, thank you. I just wanted to address some of the dystopian delusions of the Red Green alliance of which, ma' Am Dami is a prime example. These are people who promise everything for free. And the Only thing that communism has ever delivered on is an equality of poverty. There is no dictatorship of the proletariat. There is a dictatorship of the elitists who run the Communist Party, which becomes increasingly totalitarian as they consolidate their power. And of course, they will deprive the people of every liberty that they ever possessed or thought of having. Those who wanted freedom of the press in the Soviet Union, for example, had to resort to the underground press to publish anything. And they did so at great risk. There were informants, there was surveillance, there was the terror, there were the gulags, there was the Ukrainian famine, there was the eating of the left by its own members, which is common because it's always a political power struggle. If you look at the constitutions and platforms of the Nazis, and that was, of course, the Socialist Party. It promised everything, cradle to grave. It was even more extreme than the Democrat Party platforms. And yet none of that was ever delivered on because Hitler had no use for the German people except as pawns to his power. It was the cult of personality. It was the Fuhrer who would make every decision and who would use every last one of them down to 12 year olds in his armies as he was losing. Interesting that the Islamists did the same thing. Iran and Iraq, when they were fighting each other and killed about a million people. Iran used 12 year olds in the forefront. They used them also to be the ones who would step on the mines or any kind of explosive device and thereby spare the more accomplished jihadist warriors. These are two movements, the Communist and the Islamist, which are heading for international, global transnational power. For the Islamists, it's a caliphate of tribalist, superstitious, savage barbarians. For the communists, it's an elite which claims to come from the west, but which has nothing but disdain for our heritage. It hates all of these totalitarian organizations, by the way. Detest religion, detest the family and tradition.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, deplorabil. That's the music that is escorting you off the stage. So we gotta go. Thank you so much for joining me. You nailed it. You, you're so smart and I really appreciate it. Coming up, Jim Keady joining us on the Rob Carson Show.
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Mary Walter
All right. Welcome back to The Rob Carson Show. I am Mary Walters sitting in for Rob. 800-922-6680 is my number. 800, 922-6680 is my number right now. Let's go to the Newsmax hotline and welcome Jim Keady. He's a Republican strategist with JLK Veggies. And you can find him on X at the Jimmy Keady, K E A D Y. Welcome to the show, Jim. It's great to speak with you and it's great to have you here.
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Jimmy Keady
Thanks for having me. How are you doing today? Good.
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Mary Walter
I'm doing just fine. Thank you so much. Especially I've never, I don't believe I've ever spoken with you. So this is going to be great. It's, it's something new in my day and I love it.
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Jimmy Keady
That's good to hear.
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Mary Walter
Let's talk about the primary results. I have to tell you, I think it was a letdown for, and it was a big loss for the communists on, on the left. What do you think?
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Jimmy Keady
Yeah, you know, there's definitely a movement in Democrat Party to try to find people who are somewhat moderate. Right. And I use somewhat in air quotes, in the last couple months, we've seen in New York and other places like California where they continue to move to basically progressive slash communist. So I thought that last night was an interesting development. As we get into the midterms, the Democrats continue to realize they have a problem and they are nominating people through their processes that are unelectable. You know, there are some states last night that, that did go that direction and there are some congressional, but for the most part they somewhat seem to be able to control it. However, that control will not last, won't last too long, particularly with the presidentials coming up here in 2028.
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Mary Walter
Were there any surprises for you?
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Jimmy Keady
Not really. Michigan was a little bit of a surprise. I didn't think it was going to be as close as that was statewide perspective. You know, there really was a last minute surge there for the more, for the more center. Center of the road candidate. That was a little bit of surprise. But you know, it's good for Republicans and Michigan in particular is one of those states you've got a, you've got a great candidate at the top of the ticket with Mike Rogers. That's always a swing seat. So. So for Republican standpoint, it was a win last night.
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Mary Walter
Yeah.
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Jimmy Keady
But you know, not as. I didn't think it was going to be that close.
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Mary Walter
No, I didn't. But you know, I have to tell you, the people that the republic that the Democrats are running at this point, it's almost as if they're all, they just try to get weirder and weirder and weirder and I think it's, they're almost like challenging their, their constituents and their bas, see how weird they can go before they finally say, okay, enough is enough. Right?
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Jimmy Keady
It was really interesting. I mean, it was really interesting. I was talking to somebody today about how 20, 20, 2018, kind of when that blue wave happened. It was, you know, you aoc, who was a bartender, you had a lady named Katie Hill who was a goat farmer, you know, and they were winning Congress and we thought that was, that was, could be as weird as was going to get. But they definitely, they definitely have gotten more, more, more communists, more left of center and definitely more kind of out in their views. I mean you can, you can look at the replacement for plants are up in Maine. That guy married his cousin. It doesn't really get weirder than that from a political standpoint.
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Mary Walter
Well, to be, Wait, wait, wait, wait. To be fair to him, it's his second cousin, not his first cousin. So it could be worse. But there's still a. They just really spun the genetic wheel on that one.
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Jimmy Keady
Yeah. And you, I think as the election cycle continues to go and as we get closer to the 2028 presidential cycle, you will continue to, you will continue to see that they are going to find more DAMI candidates, you know, more communist, more left of center and frankly, you know, both socially and personally, a little far out there. And we're definitely seeing that movement on that side of the aisle.
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Mary Walter
Yeah. The other thing, too is the woman who was running against EL Sayed, and I have Katie Porter stuck in my head, and I know that's not her name. What was her name? The woman who lost running against Dale
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Jimmy Keady
said, yes, yes, I can. I can.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, I can see her. And I just. Her name just escapes me right now. And I'm super sorry, but this is what happens when you miss your Prevagen shield. She too, though, was like a Saturday night skit. Like she. She was so. She's just weird. Her effects are weird. Tim Kane weird, right? Like Tim Kane with the high kicking in the jazz hands and everything else. Gavin Newsom weird. It's like they can't find any normal candidates. People who are just normal. They don't have to be exceptional. Just like normal people like, like you'd see in your grocery store. They can't seem to find candidates who are just normal. And it is baffling to me. And I don't know if it's because the ideology draws just very. Just draws from the fringes of society. And I don't know why those people don't tend to be just like normal everyday people or if. If they're purposely looking for these people. It's just absolutely fascinating to me.
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Jimmy Keady
Well, I think. I think you have to look at. When you. When you start looking at candidate makeups, I think it's very important to look at kind of ideologically where these guys are on the spectrum. And from a mainstream perspective, the ideology that the Democrats are now at are, you know, borderline socialist and communists. So it's just a different take on what are these candidates ideologies. And the farther left they get a little bit more outside the mainstream they become because of, you know, what, what they are spouting, the policies that they have and what they believe in. And I think that's why some of these. Some of these guys that are coming out and gals are coming out are naturally moving to that bent because of. Because of what they believe. I mean, one of, you know, somebody. You didn't mention, one of the more, you know, weirder politicians, if you use that term, would be, you know, waltz and in Minnesota. Right. And it's. And I think the further left and the further less mainstream that the party continues to go, the more eclectic and different personalities that are being dragged into their parties.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, Governor. Jazz hands. Right. With the high kick. And he was kicking like he was a backup dancer for the Village People. Right. You're right. Just the weirdness. It was Haley Stevens. I find it popped into my brain and I had to write it down before I forgot Haley Stevens. Okay, so, so you get Chuck Schumer. You get all these people on the left in the Democrat Party who are cowards and they will do anything for Powers. They're like, you know what? We'll take it. The guy with the Nazi tattoo, if he's gonna win, we'll take it. Right, we'll take it. We'll deal with that later. And they're just guys who get under. We're the big ten, so this is a good thing. We have no morals whatsoever. So it's all great. Our only morals are, you know, you have to illegal immigration and you can't punish people. If somebody rapes you, you don't know what was in his heart at the time. So you can't insist he goes to jail. So they're for lawlessness, they're for all of this crazy stuff. Does, does that though split the Democrat Party? I had a conversation about this on the year yesterday. There's definitely a schism. Is there a split? You see Fetterman saying, you know what, they go anti Israel in their platform. I'm out. You see James Carville saying the same thing. They are going so far to crazy town. I'm not going to be in the same party as El said. So you of the more moderates drawing a line and saying, this is my line in the sand and I'm out of this party. Do you see a fracture happening here where maybe you have a Communist party and you have a Democrat party? Or does the Democrat party just become the Communist party and everybody else, the moderates just don't have a home?
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Jimmy Keady
Well, I actually, I mean, you can see this just by kind of where their governors are, right? I mean, you've got, you know, Roy Moore, who's running in North Carolina, Josh Shapiro, Andy, be sure. Right. Kentucky, you know, you have Fetterman's, a great example. Right. You have a lot more, I would say, center left candidates who are splitting. And I think that they, what, what they are, you know, what they are effectively trying to find right now is where the heart of their party is. And I think that's going to continue to happen when you suffer a loss like they did in 2024 with Kamala Harris. And you know, they lean, they leaned right into it. I mean, she was the most progressive nominee that's ever been on their side for president. You know, obviously we talked about him. I'm sorry. Waltz out of Minnesota. Right. They are in a fight to where they are ideology from that standpoint. The problem is, is that their base continues to be more, you know, Mandami like and less settled. And I think you're going to see a big, you're going to see a big split as this happens as they try to, you know, as they try to coalesce around a party that has record low approval ratings. Right. A party that is completely broke from a financial perspective on the DNC side, they're going to continue to figure out where their home is and where their heart is. And they are struggling. They are struggling an incredible amount because of that. And I think you're going to continue to see, you know, this because I mean, who is, who is their leader? Who is their ideological central leader of their party? And this often happens when there's parties out of power. We are just seeing it kind of in real time fail because there is nobody who is stepping up. And that's going to continue to evolve as, you know, we get through these midterms and then we go into 2028 where they have to, they're going to have to field a candidate. It you're going to continue to see this struggle because there is, there is a struggle. I mean, you've got, you know, basically Fetterman and Madame are one state away from each other and couldn't be in Shapiro. Right. And couldn't be completely different on, on how they are addressing certain issues. And I think you're going to continue to see that split. If they want to continue to win swing states, you know, they want to continue to be, you know, in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, you know, they want to continue to have a shot to, you know, do North Carolina. They are going to have to grapple with themselves on what their party ideological stance and what they actually believe in. And I just don't think they know what that is right now.
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Mary Walter
Yeah. Jimmy, hang on. I want to ask you just a quick break and I want to ask on the other side, we have a couple of minutes about the Republicans chances in the midterms after everything we've just been talking about with the Democrats and how defractured they are, etc. Want to talk about the Republicans in the midterms because the Republicans have a phenomenal way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They're really, really good at it. So we'll talk about that coming up. We've got Jimmy Keaty joining us here. He is a Republican strategist with JLK Strategies. More with him on the ROB carson. And welcome back to THE ROB Carson Show. I'm Mary Walter. I'll be with you tomorrow and Friday as well. And joining me on the Newsmax hotline is Jimmy Keaty. He is a Republican strategist with JLK Strategies. You can find him on X at the Jimmy Keady, K E A D Y so, Jimmy, let's talk about what we were just talking about the Democrats and all the bad news for the Democrats. But but they always seem to come together when it comes time to vote. Republicans just historically don't vote in midterm elections. I don't know why. Plus, the Democrats have enthusiasm on their side. Young people that the under 30 crowd are very excited to vote for Communists because they were never taught any better. So they're ignorant. And that's not necessarily their fault because they just wouldn't taught. So does this translate into good news or bad news for the Republicans in the midterms?
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Caller/Guest
Yeah.
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Jimmy Keady
Well, I will first off, first start off and say that we have some really good candidates to cycle. You look at Michigan, for example, Mike Rogers, you know, only, you know, really only lost in 2024 by less than a couple percentage points. So we are in good, good positions on clearing really strong candidates and primaries, the White House. And Trump has done a great job of taking those candidates and sticking with those candidates and making sure that we don't have the messy primaries that they did in Michigan. It's a perfect example. They had a really brutal primary and our candidate and nominee up there did not. And I think we've been smart about that. One of the things that we have to lean in on is that typically in off years, you know, we do struggle with turnout, but we do have a president who is the master of getting people out to vote. So there's always that balance on making sure that we continue to lean on him, to continue to get people and Republicans to get out the vote. Look, I think you look at Maine, for example, Susan Collins always wins really tough races. They just fielded a candidate who has got four or five months they got to make up on. Right. There has been some massive missteps on the Democrat side on fielding candidates and feeling good candidates and getting them through, you know, basically, you know, very, very tough campaigns. And I think that bodes well for us as we go in on the Senate, on the House because of redistricting in the Supreme Court. We're in a very good position, you know, to hold the House. You know, we have good candidates in the House. You know, I think the battle is going to be in the Senate and frankly, we have done a very good job of getting good candidates through non contested primaries.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, because the Republicans do have a lot of money. As you noted earlier, the Democrats are broken.
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Jimmy Keady
Broke.
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Mary Walter
So the Republicans do have. They had to sell their headquarters and someone called in and said, why oh why, oh? This was, this was. Last night on my podcast, my guest said, I would have loved to have seen Elon Musk buy the DNC headquarters and turn it into just something to just troll the living daylights out of them. Which, which would have been hysterical. But the thing that bothers me about Republicans, and I'm not a registered Republican because I don't sign up for a team that doesn't come to win. And too many times Republicans don't come to win. Look at, I look at John Thune in the Senate.
[36:08]
Deplora Bella
Senate.
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Mary Walter
He will not give Americans, 80% of Americans what they want with the Save America Act. And it's a simple, easy thing for he's like, I don't have the votes. There are ways to do it that he could get the votes. He refuses. So Democrats come to win. And that's what bothers me. The Republicans have a lot of money, but they don't spend it. They don't spend it. New Jersey during the last gubernatorial election, not with the helicopter pilot, but the one before that. Murphy's second term was ripe for the picking. And the RNC did not spend money in New Jersey. They write off certain states. Democrats will go into a state like Texas and they'll win in like Austin and they'll start taking over city councils and they'll slowly work their way up in the government in the state. And their goal is to flip Texas blue. And they will work their butts off and they'll spend tons of money doing it. Republicans don't do the same in even purple states. Swing states are like, oh, well, they write it off and they walk away. Is the RNC willing, Do you know if they're willing to actually spend money?
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Jimmy Keady
Yeah, I mean, the money advantage this year is unreal. And you have MAGA Inc. Right? You have Elon Musk, you've got the RNC. You have, you know, several super PACs and organizations that are willing to spend and they, and they will spend not only to protect our incumbents in some of these tough fights, but then also to expand the map and keep the map. You know, and one of the things that has changed over the last decade in Republican politics is Trump is a Fighter. Trump plays to win. We saw that in 2024, that in 20. We saw that in 16. This is a president who is going to lay it down. They're going to spend the money, they are going to go after the talking points that win votes. You've seen this White House do that over and over and over again, where they consider people say, oh, you know, these are unpopular opinions when they're actually 20, 80, 20 issues. And I think this will all work out because at the end of the day, as a party, we have to keep the Senate, we have to keep the House if we want to continue to do the good things we're doing.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, no, absolutely. Trump is a fighter, but he's got to drag some of these people along. He's got to drag some of these congressmen and senators along. Again, I go back to John Thune. He is the poster child for why the hell has happened. Five Republican senators gotten gotten rid of them. They could get together and they could vote them out. Why they haven't done this is beyond me. But Trump, Trump wants it done. And Trump would do it if he was in the Senate. Trump would absolutely do. But we have too many, I think, Republicans who go along to get along. And you also have. Trump's approval rating is in the toilet. It has dropped. I think it was 59 points since November, since the election in 2024. People don't view him well on the economy, which doesn't make sense to me. But I think the media has a lot to do with it. And also the war in Iran, those two things are a drag. And I think that Republicans would be very, very foolish to ignore those numbers and ignore the especially young people who went for Trump in 2024 and are not going for Trump in the midterms or Trump endorsed candidates in the midterms. I think that's a problem. But that's just me.
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Jimmy Keady
Yeah, I definitely, I definitely think looking at polling and understanding, you know, very complicated dynamic in the Middle east, you know, particularly running on, you know, America first in the foreign wars is definitely an issue that has to be dealt with.
[39:31]
Mary Walter
Yeah, absolutely.
[39:32]
Jimmy Keady
And as that continues, that conflict continues to go. So you're going to continue to see oil prices continue to get above 455. Jimmy, there are definitely some issues that need to be fixed, for sure.
[39:42]
Mary Walter
Yeah, absolutely. We're up against the clock. We got to run. Thank you so much. I've got Brian yelling at me, and I don't need that. Jimmy, thank you so much. I hope we get to speak with you again. Have a great rest of your week. More coming up on the Rob Carson Show.
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Caller/Guest
All right.
[40:04]
Mary Walter
I'm Mary Walter in for Rob Carson. I'll be with you again tomorrow and I'll be with you again on Friday. Coming up, we're going to talk tomorrow about a government run grocery store in another state, in this one in Chicago that just doesn't seem to be doing well. So we'll talk about that tomorrow. Have a great day and I'll see you tomorrow right here on the Rob Carson Show.

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The Rob Carson Show
Episode: Primary Lessons & Party Problems
Date: August 5, 2026
Guest Host: Mary Walter

Episode Overview

This episode, guest-hosted by Mary Walter, dives into the fallout and deeper implications of recent primary elections, the ongoing tension and schisms within the Democratic Party, and prospects for both parties heading into the midterms. The show features humorous banter, insightful commentary, and interviews with Republican strategist Jimmy Keady. Additional discussions include the controversy over New York's assisted suicide law and rising divisions between party moderates and progressives.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Legal News: New York Assisted Suicide Law & Religious Liberty

(Begins ~03:39)

Context: New York's new assisted suicide law faces a lawsuit from several Catholic organizations.
A temporary agreement shields Catholic nuns and ministries from being forced to participate in, or refer patients for, assisted suicide procedures.
Mary Walter: Expresses support for religious groups' right not to violate their beliefs:

"If you’re going to a Catholic organization for healthcare, you should pretty much know what you’re going to get. ...You can’t be surprised if they’re not going to refer you to assisted suicide. How is that a shock to anybody?" (07:02)
On Government Overreach:

"I don’t like the government telling people how they have to run things... if they're doing something egregious, then, okay... But stay out of it otherwise." (07:29)

2. Rand Paul vs. Anthony Fauci & The Limits of Pardons

(Begins ~07:56)

Mary reviews Senator Rand Paul's intent to forward a contempt of Congress recommendation for Dr. Anthony Fauci to the DOJ, highlighting public confusion about legal processes.
Raises the legal ambiguity of whether someone with a presidential pardon can still refuse to answer Congressional questions and plead the Fifth.
On Congressional testimony:
- Explains that answering preliminary questions may forfeit the right to plead the Fifth.
- Predicts a possible Supreme Court review.
Mary Walter:

"If you give a statement and you comment on what you’re in front of Congress for, you have now forfeited your right to take the Fifth." (11:20)

3. Primary Election Analysis: Democrats’ Populist vs. Moderate Divide

(Begins ~12:26)

The Case of Abdul El Sayed vs. Haley Stevens

Senator Chris Van Hollen described El Sayed as a "populist" and anti-status quo figure, not too far left for a swing state (12:32).
Mary Walter:
- Questions what congressional incumbents like Van Hollen have done to fight economic rigging:
  
  "What have you been doing to not rig the game? ...Why do they need El Sayed to do what you have refused to do?" (13:01)
- Criticizes candidates’ lofty promises with little attention to how policies like Medicare for All would be accomplished, noting skepticism regarding actual implementation for Gen Xers.
Take: El Sayed's narrow win and the demographic split reveal class and education divides within the party.

4. The Democratic Party’s “Big Tent” Problems

(14:58, 16:12, 16:47)

Big Tent Dilemma:
Mary Walter questions whether the Democratic Party uses inclusivity as an excuse to tolerate radical or fringe elements (Nazis, Communists, etc.) for the sake of electoral gain.
Caller “Deplora Bella” (16:47):
Launches into an articulate critique of the “Red-Green” alliance—Communists and Islamists—drawing historical parallels to the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Points out:

"The only thing that communism has ever delivered on is an equality of poverty. There is no dictatorship of the proletariat. There is a dictatorship of the elitists..." (16:55)
- Warns that all totalitarian movements suppress religion, family, and tradition.

5. Interview with Republican Strategist Jimmy Keady

5.1. Primary Outcomes & Democratic Fractures

(Begins 21:30, in depth at 22:27)

Democratic Party Struggles:

"Democrats continue to realize they have a problem and they are nominating people...that are unelectable..." (22:27)
Notes some movement to nominate more moderate candidates, but overall, the party drifts left.
States with moderate wins like Michigan are notable exceptions.
Surprising Races:
- Michigan: Unexpectedly close between center and far-left candidates.
Candidate Eccentricity:

"I was talking to someone today...we thought a bartender and a goat farmer winning Congress was as weird as it was going to get. But they’ve definitely gotten more ...out in their views." (24:15)
- Cites an example of a Maine candidate who married his second cousin.

5.2. Democratic Party Schism: Moderates vs. Progressives

(28:08–32:14)

Party Identity Crisis:
- Moderates (e.g., Fetterman, Carville) drawing a line, threatening to leave as the party shifts farther left.
- Predicts a growing split as the party struggles with ideological leadership and poor DNC finances.
"Their base continues to be more, you know, Mandami like and less settled. And I think you're going to see a big split..." (30:32)
- Democrats lack a unified, charismatic national leader post-2024 loss.

5.3. Republican Prospects & Perennial Problems

(32:14 onward, deep-dive at 33:48)

Republican Advantages:
- Strong candidates in key states (e.g., Mike Rogers in Michigan).
- Trump credited with strong turnout and candidate discipline.
"We have a president who is the master of getting people out to vote." (33:48)
- Financial edge: “The money advantage this year is unreal...They are going to spend the money." (37:09)
Warning Signs:
- Republicans have a historic tendency to underperform in midterms and are sometimes reluctant to invest resources in competitive or blue-leaning states.
"I don’t sign up for a team that doesn’t come to win. And too many times Republicans don’t come to win." (36:08) "Democrats come to win...Republicans don’t do the same in even purple states...They write it off and walk away." (36:24)
Party Leadership Weakness:
- Mary criticizes Republicans like Sen. John Thune for failing to deliver on core legislation.
Trump’s Role:
- Seen as a fighter who increases turnout and pushes aggressive strategies.
"Trump wants it done. And Trump would do it if he was in the Senate." (38:11)
- However, Mary notes Trump’s approval numbers, especially with young voters, have dropped since 2024, partly due to economic perceptions and international conflict.

6. Other Notable Moments

Satirical Takes:
- Mary often lampoons Democratic candidates as "Saturday Night Live skits"—referencing particularly unusual or eccentric figures.
"She too, though, was like a Saturday night skit...her effects are weird. Tim Kaine weird, right?" (25:59)
Critique of Government-Run Purity:
- Comments on the impracticality of government-run grocery stores and issues with ID requirements, connecting to broader debates about trust and fraud.
"It’s going to be interesting to see how Mamdani gets around requiring ID to get into those government city run grocery stores. Because you know what’s going to happen..." (15:30)

Selected Quotes with Timestamps

Mary Walter:

"If you’re going to a Catholic organization for healthcare, you should pretty much know what you’re going to get...you can’t be surprised if they’re not going to refer you to assisted suicide." (07:02)
"We have to stop forcing these religious groups to kowtow to what the mainstream thinks it should be." (07:22)
"What have you been doing with all your time in Congress? ...Why do they need El Sayed to do what you have refused to do?" (13:01)
"I think the Democrats are making very, very poor decisions here. ...They're making a deal with the devil." (13:55)

Jimmy Keady:

"Democrats continue to realize they have a problem and they are nominating people...that are unelectable... That control will not last too long, particularly with the presidentials coming up here in 2028." (22:27–23:14)
"When you start looking at candidate makeups, ...from a mainstream perspective, the ideology that the Democrats are now at are, you know, borderline socialist and communists." (27:00)
"Who is their leader? Who is their ideological central leader of their party? ...There is nobody who is stepping up." (31:05)
"Trump is a Fighter. Trump plays to win. ...They are going to spend the money, they are going to go after the talking points that win votes." (37:09)

Caller, Deplora Bella:

"The only thing that communism has ever delivered on is an equality of poverty. There is no dictatorship of the proletariat. There is a dictatorship of the elitists..." (16:55)
"All totalitarian organizations detest religion, detest the family and tradition." (19:19)

Chronological Segment Timestamps

Assisted Suicide Law & Catholic Lawsuit: 03:39–07:56
Rand Paul, Fauci, and Congressional Lawfare: 07:56–12:26
Primary Election Reactions & Populism vs. Moderation: 12:26–14:58
“Big Tent” Dilemma & Party Extremes: 14:58–16:47
Caller “Deplora Bella” on Political Totalitarianism: 16:47–19:36
Jimmy Keady Interview: Democratic Fractures & GOP Outlook:
- Introduction: 21:30
- Primary Results & Candidate Oddities: 22:27–25:42
- Democratic Split & Leadership Crisis: 25:42–32:14
- GOP Positioning & Strategy: 32:14–39:42

Takeaways

Both major parties are grappling with internal fractures, but Democrats appear especially divided over ideology, candidate quality, and base identity.
Republicans are optimistic but historically self-sabotaging, needing to overcome turnout gaps and capitalize on Democratic disarray.
The episode features both pointed policy debate and humorous jabs at political figures and party dynamics, reflecting the show’s signature irreverence.

For listeners seeking a fast-paced, sharp-tongued political analysis with a conservative perspective, this episode provides an engaging look at the current state of America’s parties post-primary—and what it signals for the midterms and beyond.

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Mary Walter
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Jimmy Keady
Hold it now. You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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Deplora Bella
Foreign.
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Mary Walter
Welcome back to the Rob Carson Show. I'm Mary Walter. I'm sitting in the seat for Rob today, tomorrow and Friday. I'm so happy to be with you. I'm so happy to be able to sit in the seats. Great audience, so good engagement. Speaking of which, you can get a hold of me at 8009-2266-8080-0922-6680 or you can tag me in a post over at X at Mary Walter Radio. No s just Mary Walter Radio. My podcast is live on Tuesday evening, 7:15pm Eastern Time. It is live on Rumble, YouTube and Getter. And it's great because you can ask questions, you can leave comments. And we have a really, really good group of people that just keeps growing and we're in different countries now. We have viewers so who participate. So it's a lot of fun. We just had on a comedian. Fred Verbino was on with us last night and he was very funny and that was a lot of fun. So it's not always political. It's a lot of different things. It's not always political. Rob has been on several times and that's, that's always an hour of insanity. Rob is so great. So I have fun with Rob. So he's been on a couple times as well. So not always political. And I guarantee you there are names there that you will know. You can get the audio on Apple podcasts, Spotify and Spreaker. Again, look for Mary Walter Radio. Oh, oh. And later today I will be on Newsmax 2 at 5:15 on with Ike Wingate on Newsmax 2. As I said, you just go to YouTube, type in Newsmax the number 2 and live and it'll come right up. And then on Thursday, tomorrow I will be on Newsmax 2 with Ed Henry at 6:40 I believe it is can check 6 6. Between 6 and 6:30 I'll be on with Ed Henry on Newsmax 2. And then on Saturday I'm on with oh, Saturday morning I'm doing rita Cosby at 12:30 on Newsmax, regular Newsmax. And to one of these days I'll check but I'll, I'll let you know each day. So when I'm going to be on Tomorrow I'm also on Newsmax at wait. I wake up America early at 6:40 in the morning. Dear Lord, deliver me. Because you got to get up and do your hair and makeup. Men don't have to do that. Guys can get up 15 minutes beforehand, run their fingers through their hair, put on a nice shirt, have their pajama bottoms on and off they go. And they could do the hit. I got to get up, we got to do our hair, we got to do our makeup, we got to do the whole thing. I can't just put on a T shirt. I gotta look somewhat nice. And so 6:40 tomorrow morning on Newsmax on Wake Up America Early. You'll see me there. So, so yeah, you can also if you follow me on X at Mary Walter Radio, I post everything. So it's, it's all there. All right. I just wanted to go through some news here for it with you because there's a lot of news that is happening that I wanted to, to go over with you and the court. A district court on Thursday blocked New York from enforcing their assisted suicide law against four orders of Catholic nuns and several Catholic health care ministries as their religious liberty lawsuit is continuing.
[03:37]
Rob Carson
All right.
[03:39]
Mary Walter
The temporary agreement which New York agreed to will shield the Catholic nuns and ministries from being forced to take part in any assisted suicides when the law legaling the practice goes into effect today. So this was an up against the clock type situation and the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty is representing these, these groups in court. The agreement will be in effect while the court considers the request for a preliminary injunction. Mark Rienzi, who is the president of Beckett, said forcing Catholic nuns to participate in suicide and robbing New Yorkers of the choice to receive faithful life affirming care is both unlawful and unjust. This agreement protects the sisters and those who care for and those they care for while we fight to end New York's suicide. MAN Good. The groups include the Carmelite Sisters, the Dominicans, the Benedictines, the Little Sisters, Bishop John Barres of the Diocese of Rockville center and Catholic Health. They're all suing over part of the law that requires them to provide referrals to patients who are interested in assisted suicide. Now you should know if you're going to a Catholic organization for healthcare, you should pretty much know what you're going to get. My, my grandfather and his sister would often stay with the nuns up in North Jersey when my parents would go away because my, my father, my grandfather lived with my mom and you know, his sister was living elsewhere but they would. They would send the two of them up to go live with the nuns, and they get to see each other. Had the men's wing and the woman's wing. Even though they're in. They were in, like, their, their 80s and 90s didn't matter. They had to sleep separately, couldn't compete together. And they had. They had curfew. But you should know what you're getting. I went to Villanova. I went to Catholic school. And you have to know that they had. They had curfews and they had, you know, you couldn't have someone in the room of the opposite sex after a certain time. And you had RAs, and some of the RAs were priests who, who checked. And, and so you know what you're signing up for. So you can't be surprised if they're not going to refer you to assisted suicide. How is that a shock to anybody? Like, how's that a surprise? And you can't conform. I'm sorry. But these religious groups, you have to know they're providing a service. If you don't want to partake of it, don't partake of it. No one's forcing you to partake of it. And that's why I think when it comes to religious things, we have to stop forcing these religious groups to kowtow to what the mainstream thinks it should be. That makes sense. So the complaint asked the U.S. district Court for the Northern District of New York to block the law before it takes effect on August 5th. The lawsuit alleges that if the law goes into effect, healthcare providers who refuse to take part in counseling referrals for assisted suicides will face significant fines, professional sanctions, and even criminal penalties. They wanted to jail the nuns. Who jails a nun? You just don't do that. They're cute, they're little. Who jails nuns? But this is what they do. They beat you into submission.
[06:49]
Deplora Bella
They.
[06:49]
Mary Walter
They use lawfare to literally drive you out of business. No one should be providing services. You should have to go to the government for your services. That's what they want. The lawsuit accuses New York of violating core constitutional protections. Excuse me, for religious freedom and freedom of speech, by compelling Catholic nuns and ministries to either violate their faith or risk state punishment. In February, New York became the 13th state, plus Washington, D.C. to legalize assisted suicide. It's called maid. The maid bill. It's what they use in Canada. They use that with abandoned. In Canada. Everybody, everybody gets referred to maid if you're over a certain age. And it allows assisted suicide for terminally ill New Yorkers with less than six months to live. So I think this is a step in the right direction. I don't like the government telling people how they have to run things. I just don't like it. And that's just me. I don't like the government telling people how to run their business. Stay out of it. If they're doing something egregious, then okay, I get it. But stay out of it. Otherwise.
[07:57]
Caller/Guest
All right.
[07:57]
Mary Walter
Rand Paul says that he will send Foushee contempt Foushee, a contempt referral straight to the DOJ if it passes committee. He said yesterday that he's going to send his contempt of Congress recommendation to prosecute Anthony Fauci directly to the doj. If the resolution passes out of committee later this week, the vote will take place tomorrow. On Thursday, the Senate. He clarified that although Fauci has received a presidential pardon. See, and this is the question we all have. Even he's got a presidential pardon, but his refusal to help the Senate is a crime of its own that is not covered under the pardon. The pardon excused any crime committed between 2014 and 2025. January 2025. He said, we have a law in Congress that if you will not testify to help an investigation is called contempt of Congress, and it is a felony. Now, the prosecution has to be through the doj. People get confused sometimes. And online people will criticize me sometimes and say, why won't you prosecute him? And it's like, I don't have prosecutorial power. The best his committee can do, Congress can do is refer to the DOJ for prosecution. He said he believes he can bypass the full chamber and send the referral to the DOJ directly. For he sends a DOJ directly because the recommendation is not a law. And the referral poses several important questions that the court has to decide. So the legal question is, can someone plead the Fifth? Can they plead their constitutional right not to incriminate themselves when they've already been given immunity through a pardon? There are arguments for this and there are some precedents. So that's the question everybody wants to see answered. And I think that that's going to happen. I'm sure Fauci's lawyers will appear, appeal it to the Supremes, and it's gone to the Supreme Court before in the past. So maybe it's up to them to decide. And they were proving by asking him all the questions. The theory was, I'm not a lawyer, but I watch a lot of legal tv. But apparently the theory was the reason they were asking him, I think it was Josh Hawley was asking him, what color is your tie, what color is the rug, what color is this? And he kept taking the Fifth was that they were proving that he wasn't going to answer any questions whatsoever. The questions he didn't need to take the Fifth on. And the other, the other thing I heard was because in the beginning he gave a statement and he addressed a lot of the issues. If you give a statement and you comment on what you're in front of Congress for, you have now forfeited your right to take the Fifth. Once you say something like that, you forfeit your right. When you start commenting on the proceedings and on the questions at hand, you lose your right to take the Fifth. So I don't know, but it'll be interesting to find out if and when this goes to, to Congress. Coming up, we're going to be joined by Jimmy Keaty to talk about the primary. And I just quickly. And we're going to go in after, after we speak with him. I've got some cuts that I want to play with you, but I just want to kick it off a little bit here going into this interview with Jimmy Keating with getting his comments. And I want to go to cut seven first, if that's possible there. I know I'm not going in order. I don't want to catch you off guard, Brian, but I want to go to cut seven first. And this is Senator Chris Van Hollen and they were asking him yesterday about whether Abdul El Said is too far left. Now remember, he was blowing it out, blowing Haley Stevens out in the polls, the polls before the, before the primary election. He was supposed to win by, you know, 10, 20, 30 points. And he won by less than a point, less than 1%. And she was doing really well with non college educated, with people who are blue collar, people who work less wealthy. She did really well with them. The people who voted for El Said were the college educated. So in other words, the indoctrinated and those who have a lot of money. So they think that it's not going to affect them, that the socialism isn't going to bother them. It ain't gonna get me. It's okay. And if they do come after me, I'll just pick up and move and then I'll go vote for blue somewhere else and start the process all over again. So it was interesting how it broke down. So here's Chris Van Hollen and he was asked about Abdullah El Said. Now remember, these are people who didn't think a Nazi tattoo was a disqualifier if it's on their guy, if it's on a Republican, it's terrible. But on their guy it's totally fine. Here's Chris Van Hollen.
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Jimmy Keady
You've heard the arguments. He's too far left in a purple state. What do you say to that?
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Caller/Guest
John I think that's dead wrong. I think in this case, Abdul El Sayed has been the populist candidate among the Democrats, the anti status quo candidate among the Democrats. And he understands that this is not so much left versus right as it is folks at the very top, the top 1%, rigging the economy and the rules of the game in a way that benefits them and hurts workers and everybody else.
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Mary Walter
So here's my question. Chris Van Hollen, well, what have you been doing with all your time in Congress? What have you been doing to not rig the game? What have you been doing? Why do they need EL Said to do what you have refused to do? I'm curious. So they all talk a good game and they also never talk about how they're going to accomplish any of the things that they promised to do. That never comes into play, which I find interesting. And nobody ever asked him. There's never a question by an interviewer in any of these mainstream outlets like, okay, how are you going to do that? How are you, how are you going to make Medicare for All happen? Because I got news for you. Medicare is not even going to happen for the people who are in their 50s. Gen Gen X is going to get screwed so badly with Medicare and Social Security. They are going to get hammered with it. And I already know, like I, my husband and I, we're Gen X. We, we've been planning for, for never having any of this our whole lives. But what about Chris Van Holland? What have you been doing? You, you know, it takes the communists to sort it out for you. Come on. I think that the Democrats are making very, very poor decisions here. They're, they're making a deal with the devil. We'll take the power because we want the seat, but they don't realize what they're inviting into their party and it's going to end badly for them, in my humble opinion. All right. More coming up. 8800-922 to talk more about El Said and whether I gotta tell you, I think him winning is actually good for Republicans because he's beatable. And I think it would have been harder to beat Haley Stevens because she's more moderate. I mean, she is an SNL skit. She's like an SNL character in and of herself. If, if SNL was still funny, they would have done a mock debate between the communist and, you know, the SNL character of Haley Stevens and it would have been hilarious. But they're not funny anymore. So they don't, don't do things like that. All right, we're going to talk about that coming up. And also the big tent, is that the excuse that the left is using, y'?
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Jimmy Keady
All?
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Mary Walter
Well, we got a big tent for welcoming in Nazis and Communists, etc. Or does not not play with more moderate voters. It's coming up on the Rob Carson Show.
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Jimmy Keady
Who would not want voter id?
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Caller/Guest
Only somebody that wants to che.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, we'll be interesting. It's going to be interesting to see how Mamdani gets around requiring ID to get into those government city run grocery stores. Because you know what's going to happen. I mean, you know, because the Democrats believe in the goodness of everyone and they trust everybody. You know, don't worry. There's penalties if they don't follow the law. According to Elizabeth Warren, it when people go into those government, the city run grow grocery stores and they just buy up a ton of stuff and then they resell it because that's exactly what's going to happen. They're it's going to be out on the street because now they've got street vendors like a third world country cooking up food on the sidewalk. They got all this stuff going on. No health inspection whatsoever. That's where all that food's going to be going. And they're putting the money in their pockets.
[16:12]
Jimmy Keady
You watch.
[16:13]
Mary Walter
You watch. So they're going to have to try to figure out a way to not require ID because of what exactly is going to happen with this city run grocery store, which is a horrific experiment. All right. Talking about the Democrats in the big tent and Elsa and Van Hollen on the El said bus, you know, because it's not too far. We have a big tent. And coming up, I've got some Chuck Schumer and Scott Jennings talking about the big tent. But right now, look who is here. It's Deplora Bella in Bridgeville, Delaware. Deplora Bella. Wow. I'm so excited I get to speak with you. Welcome to the Rob Carson Show. Hi.
[16:48]
Deplora Bella
Well, thank you. I just wanted to address some of the dystopian delusions of the Red Green alliance of which, ma' Am Dami is a prime example. These are people who promise everything for free. And the Only thing that communism has ever delivered on is an equality of poverty. There is no dictatorship of the proletariat. There is a dictatorship of the elitists who run the Communist Party, which becomes increasingly totalitarian as they consolidate their power. And of course, they will deprive the people of every liberty that they ever possessed or thought of having. Those who wanted freedom of the press in the Soviet Union, for example, had to resort to the underground press to publish anything. And they did so at great risk. There were informants, there was surveillance, there was the terror, there were the gulags, there was the Ukrainian famine, there was the eating of the left by its own members, which is common because it's always a political power struggle. If you look at the constitutions and platforms of the Nazis, and that was, of course, the Socialist Party. It promised everything, cradle to grave. It was even more extreme than the Democrat Party platforms. And yet none of that was ever delivered on because Hitler had no use for the German people except as pawns to his power. It was the cult of personality. It was the Fuhrer who would make every decision and who would use every last one of them down to 12 year olds in his armies as he was losing. Interesting that the Islamists did the same thing. Iran and Iraq, when they were fighting each other and killed about a million people. Iran used 12 year olds in the forefront. They used them also to be the ones who would step on the mines or any kind of explosive device and thereby spare the more accomplished jihadist warriors. These are two movements, the Communist and the Islamist, which are heading for international, global transnational power. For the Islamists, it's a caliphate of tribalist, superstitious, savage barbarians. For the communists, it's an elite which claims to come from the west, but which has nothing but disdain for our heritage. It hates all of these totalitarian organizations, by the way. Detest religion, detest the family and tradition.
[19:36]
Mary Walter
Yeah, deplorabil. That's the music that is escorting you off the stage. So we gotta go. Thank you so much for joining me. You nailed it. You, you're so smart and I really appreciate it. Coming up, Jim Keady joining us on the Rob Carson Show.
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[21:31]
Mary Walter
All right. Welcome back to The Rob Carson Show. I am Mary Walters sitting in for Rob. 800-922-6680 is my number. 800, 922-6680 is my number right now. Let's go to the Newsmax hotline and welcome Jim Keady. He's a Republican strategist with JLK Veggies. And you can find him on X at the Jimmy Keady, K E A D Y. Welcome to the show, Jim. It's great to speak with you and it's great to have you here.
[22:02]
Jimmy Keady
Thanks for having me. How are you doing today? Good.
[22:04]
Mary Walter
I'm doing just fine. Thank you so much. Especially I've never, I don't believe I've ever spoken with you. So this is going to be great. It's, it's something new in my day and I love it.
[22:15]
Jimmy Keady
That's good to hear.
[22:16]
Mary Walter
Let's talk about the primary results. I have to tell you, I think it was a letdown for, and it was a big loss for the communists on, on the left. What do you think?
[22:28]
Jimmy Keady
Yeah, you know, there's definitely a movement in Democrat Party to try to find people who are somewhat moderate. Right. And I use somewhat in air quotes, in the last couple months, we've seen in New York and other places like California where they continue to move to basically progressive slash communist. So I thought that last night was an interesting development. As we get into the midterms, the Democrats continue to realize they have a problem and they are nominating people through their processes that are unelectable. You know, there are some states last night that, that did go that direction and there are some congressional, but for the most part they somewhat seem to be able to control it. However, that control will not last, won't last too long, particularly with the presidentials coming up here in 2028.
[23:15]
Mary Walter
Were there any surprises for you?
[23:18]
Jimmy Keady
Not really. Michigan was a little bit of a surprise. I didn't think it was going to be as close as that was statewide perspective. You know, there really was a last minute surge there for the more, for the more center. Center of the road candidate. That was a little bit of surprise. But you know, it's good for Republicans and Michigan in particular is one of those states you've got a, you've got a great candidate at the top of the ticket with Mike Rogers. That's always a swing seat. So. So for Republican standpoint, it was a win last night.
[23:49]
Mary Walter
Yeah.
[23:51]
Jimmy Keady
But you know, not as. I didn't think it was going to be that close.
[23:55]
Mary Walter
No, I didn't. But you know, I have to tell you, the people that the republic that the Democrats are running at this point, it's almost as if they're all, they just try to get weirder and weirder and weirder and I think it's, they're almost like challenging their, their constituents and their bas, see how weird they can go before they finally say, okay, enough is enough. Right?
[24:16]
Jimmy Keady
It was really interesting. I mean, it was really interesting. I was talking to somebody today about how 20, 20, 2018, kind of when that blue wave happened. It was, you know, you aoc, who was a bartender, you had a lady named Katie Hill who was a goat farmer, you know, and they were winning Congress and we thought that was, that was, could be as weird as was going to get. But they definitely, they definitely have gotten more, more, more communists, more left of center and definitely more kind of out in their views. I mean you can, you can look at the replacement for plants are up in Maine. That guy married his cousin. It doesn't really get weirder than that from a political standpoint.
[24:58]
Mary Walter
Well, to be, Wait, wait, wait, wait. To be fair to him, it's his second cousin, not his first cousin. So it could be worse. But there's still a. They just really spun the genetic wheel on that one.
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Jimmy Keady
Yeah. And you, I think as the election cycle continues to go and as we get closer to the 2028 presidential cycle, you will continue to, you will continue to see that they are going to find more DAMI candidates, you know, more communist, more left of center and frankly, you know, both socially and personally, a little far out there. And we're definitely seeing that movement on that side of the aisle.
[25:43]
Mary Walter
Yeah. The other thing, too is the woman who was running against EL Sayed, and I have Katie Porter stuck in my head, and I know that's not her name. What was her name? The woman who lost running against Dale
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Jimmy Keady
said, yes, yes, I can. I can.
[26:00]
Mary Walter
Yeah, I can see her. And I just. Her name just escapes me right now. And I'm super sorry, but this is what happens when you miss your Prevagen shield. She too, though, was like a Saturday night skit. Like she. She was so. She's just weird. Her effects are weird. Tim Kane weird, right? Like Tim Kane with the high kicking in the jazz hands and everything else. Gavin Newsom weird. It's like they can't find any normal candidates. People who are just normal. They don't have to be exceptional. Just like normal people like, like you'd see in your grocery store. They can't seem to find candidates who are just normal. And it is baffling to me. And I don't know if it's because the ideology draws just very. Just draws from the fringes of society. And I don't know why those people don't tend to be just like normal everyday people or if. If they're purposely looking for these people. It's just absolutely fascinating to me.
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Jimmy Keady
Well, I think. I think you have to look at. When you. When you start looking at candidate makeups, I think it's very important to look at kind of ideologically where these guys are on the spectrum. And from a mainstream perspective, the ideology that the Democrats are now at are, you know, borderline socialist and communists. So it's just a different take on what are these candidates ideologies. And the farther left they get a little bit more outside the mainstream they become because of, you know, what, what they are spouting, the policies that they have and what they believe in. And I think that's why some of these. Some of these guys that are coming out and gals are coming out are naturally moving to that bent because of. Because of what they believe. I mean, one of, you know, somebody. You didn't mention, one of the more, you know, weirder politicians, if you use that term, would be, you know, waltz and in Minnesota. Right. And it's. And I think the further left and the further less mainstream that the party continues to go, the more eclectic and different personalities that are being dragged into their parties.
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Mary Walter
Yeah, Governor. Jazz hands. Right. With the high kick. And he was kicking like he was a backup dancer for the Village People. Right. You're right. Just the weirdness. It was Haley Stevens. I find it popped into my brain and I had to write it down before I forgot Haley Stevens. Okay, so, so you get Chuck Schumer. You get all these people on the left in the Democrat Party who are cowards and they will do anything for Powers. They're like, you know what? We'll take it. The guy with the Nazi tattoo, if he's gonna win, we'll take it. Right, we'll take it. We'll deal with that later. And they're just guys who get under. We're the big ten, so this is a good thing. We have no morals whatsoever. So it's all great. Our only morals are, you know, you have to illegal immigration and you can't punish people. If somebody rapes you, you don't know what was in his heart at the time. So you can't insist he goes to jail. So they're for lawlessness, they're for all of this crazy stuff. Does, does that though split the Democrat Party? I had a conversation about this on the year yesterday. There's definitely a schism. Is there a split? You see Fetterman saying, you know what, they go anti Israel in their platform. I'm out. You see James Carville saying the same thing. They are going so far to crazy town. I'm not going to be in the same party as El said. So you of the more moderates drawing a line and saying, this is my line in the sand and I'm out of this party. Do you see a fracture happening here where maybe you have a Communist party and you have a Democrat party? Or does the Democrat party just become the Communist party and everybody else, the moderates just don't have a home?
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Jimmy Keady
Well, I actually, I mean, you can see this just by kind of where their governors are, right? I mean, you've got, you know, Roy Moore, who's running in North Carolina, Josh Shapiro, Andy, be sure. Right. Kentucky, you know, you have Fetterman's, a great example. Right. You have a lot more, I would say, center left candidates who are splitting. And I think that they, what, what they are, you know, what they are effectively trying to find right now is where the heart of their party is. And I think that's going to continue to happen when you suffer a loss like they did in 2024 with Kamala Harris. And you know, they lean, they leaned right into it. I mean, she was the most progressive nominee that's ever been on their side for president. You know, obviously we talked about him. I'm sorry. Waltz out of Minnesota. Right. They are in a fight to where they are ideology from that standpoint. The problem is, is that their base continues to be more, you know, Mandami like and less settled. And I think you're going to see a big, you're going to see a big split as this happens as they try to, you know, as they try to coalesce around a party that has record low approval ratings. Right. A party that is completely broke from a financial perspective on the DNC side, they're going to continue to figure out where their home is and where their heart is. And they are struggling. They are struggling an incredible amount because of that. And I think you're going to continue to see, you know, this because I mean, who is, who is their leader? Who is their ideological central leader of their party? And this often happens when there's parties out of power. We are just seeing it kind of in real time fail because there is nobody who is stepping up. And that's going to continue to evolve as, you know, we get through these midterms and then we go into 2028 where they have to, they're going to have to field a candidate. It you're going to continue to see this struggle because there is, there is a struggle. I mean, you've got, you know, basically Fetterman and Madame are one state away from each other and couldn't be in Shapiro. Right. And couldn't be completely different on, on how they are addressing certain issues. And I think you're going to continue to see that split. If they want to continue to win swing states, you know, they want to continue to be, you know, in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, you know, they want to continue to have a shot to, you know, do North Carolina. They are going to have to grapple with themselves on what their party ideological stance and what they actually believe in. And I just don't think they know what that is right now.
[32:15]
Mary Walter
Yeah. Jimmy, hang on. I want to ask you just a quick break and I want to ask on the other side, we have a couple of minutes about the Republicans chances in the midterms after everything we've just been talking about with the Democrats and how defractured they are, etc. Want to talk about the Republicans in the midterms because the Republicans have a phenomenal way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They're really, really good at it. So we'll talk about that coming up. We've got Jimmy Keaty joining us here. He is a Republican strategist with JLK Strategies. More with him on the ROB carson. And welcome back to THE ROB Carson Show. I'm Mary Walter. I'll be with you tomorrow and Friday as well. And joining me on the Newsmax hotline is Jimmy Keaty. He is a Republican strategist with JLK Strategies. You can find him on X at the Jimmy Keady, K E A D Y so, Jimmy, let's talk about what we were just talking about the Democrats and all the bad news for the Democrats. But but they always seem to come together when it comes time to vote. Republicans just historically don't vote in midterm elections. I don't know why. Plus, the Democrats have enthusiasm on their side. Young people that the under 30 crowd are very excited to vote for Communists because they were never taught any better. So they're ignorant. And that's not necessarily their fault because they just wouldn't taught. So does this translate into good news or bad news for the Republicans in the midterms?
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Caller/Guest
Yeah.
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Jimmy Keady
Well, I will first off, first start off and say that we have some really good candidates to cycle. You look at Michigan, for example, Mike Rogers, you know, only, you know, really only lost in 2024 by less than a couple percentage points. So we are in good, good positions on clearing really strong candidates and primaries, the White House. And Trump has done a great job of taking those candidates and sticking with those candidates and making sure that we don't have the messy primaries that they did in Michigan. It's a perfect example. They had a really brutal primary and our candidate and nominee up there did not. And I think we've been smart about that. One of the things that we have to lean in on is that typically in off years, you know, we do struggle with turnout, but we do have a president who is the master of getting people out to vote. So there's always that balance on making sure that we continue to lean on him, to continue to get people and Republicans to get out the vote. Look, I think you look at Maine, for example, Susan Collins always wins really tough races. They just fielded a candidate who has got four or five months they got to make up on. Right. There has been some massive missteps on the Democrat side on fielding candidates and feeling good candidates and getting them through, you know, basically, you know, very, very tough campaigns. And I think that bodes well for us as we go in on the Senate, on the House because of redistricting in the Supreme Court. We're in a very good position, you know, to hold the House. You know, we have good candidates in the House. You know, I think the battle is going to be in the Senate and frankly, we have done a very good job of getting good candidates through non contested primaries.
[35:34]
Mary Walter
Yeah, because the Republicans do have a lot of money. As you noted earlier, the Democrats are broken.
[35:38]
Jimmy Keady
Broke.
[35:38]
Mary Walter
So the Republicans do have. They had to sell their headquarters and someone called in and said, why oh why, oh? This was, this was. Last night on my podcast, my guest said, I would have loved to have seen Elon Musk buy the DNC headquarters and turn it into just something to just troll the living daylights out of them. Which, which would have been hysterical. But the thing that bothers me about Republicans, and I'm not a registered Republican because I don't sign up for a team that doesn't come to win. And too many times Republicans don't come to win. Look at, I look at John Thune in the Senate.
[36:08]
Deplora Bella
Senate.
[36:09]
Mary Walter
He will not give Americans, 80% of Americans what they want with the Save America Act. And it's a simple, easy thing for he's like, I don't have the votes. There are ways to do it that he could get the votes. He refuses. So Democrats come to win. And that's what bothers me. The Republicans have a lot of money, but they don't spend it. They don't spend it. New Jersey during the last gubernatorial election, not with the helicopter pilot, but the one before that. Murphy's second term was ripe for the picking. And the RNC did not spend money in New Jersey. They write off certain states. Democrats will go into a state like Texas and they'll win in like Austin and they'll start taking over city councils and they'll slowly work their way up in the government in the state. And their goal is to flip Texas blue. And they will work their butts off and they'll spend tons of money doing it. Republicans don't do the same in even purple states. Swing states are like, oh, well, they write it off and they walk away. Is the RNC willing, Do you know if they're willing to actually spend money?
[37:10]
Jimmy Keady
Yeah, I mean, the money advantage this year is unreal. And you have MAGA Inc. Right? You have Elon Musk, you've got the RNC. You have, you know, several super PACs and organizations that are willing to spend and they, and they will spend not only to protect our incumbents in some of these tough fights, but then also to expand the map and keep the map. You know, and one of the things that has changed over the last decade in Republican politics is Trump is a Fighter. Trump plays to win. We saw that in 2024, that in 20. We saw that in 16. This is a president who is going to lay it down. They're going to spend the money, they are going to go after the talking points that win votes. You've seen this White House do that over and over and over again, where they consider people say, oh, you know, these are unpopular opinions when they're actually 20, 80, 20 issues. And I think this will all work out because at the end of the day, as a party, we have to keep the Senate, we have to keep the House if we want to continue to do the good things we're doing.
[38:12]
Mary Walter
Yeah, no, absolutely. Trump is a fighter, but he's got to drag some of these people along. He's got to drag some of these congressmen and senators along. Again, I go back to John Thune. He is the poster child for why the hell has happened. Five Republican senators gotten gotten rid of them. They could get together and they could vote them out. Why they haven't done this is beyond me. But Trump, Trump wants it done. And Trump would do it if he was in the Senate. Trump would absolutely do. But we have too many, I think, Republicans who go along to get along. And you also have. Trump's approval rating is in the toilet. It has dropped. I think it was 59 points since November, since the election in 2024. People don't view him well on the economy, which doesn't make sense to me. But I think the media has a lot to do with it. And also the war in Iran, those two things are a drag. And I think that Republicans would be very, very foolish to ignore those numbers and ignore the especially young people who went for Trump in 2024 and are not going for Trump in the midterms or Trump endorsed candidates in the midterms. I think that's a problem. But that's just me.
[39:15]
Jimmy Keady
Yeah, I definitely, I definitely think looking at polling and understanding, you know, very complicated dynamic in the Middle east, you know, particularly running on, you know, America first in the foreign wars is definitely an issue that has to be dealt with.
[39:31]
Mary Walter
Yeah, absolutely.
[39:32]
Jimmy Keady
And as that continues, that conflict continues to go. So you're going to continue to see oil prices continue to get above 455. Jimmy, there are definitely some issues that need to be fixed, for sure.
[39:42]
Mary Walter
Yeah, absolutely. We're up against the clock. We got to run. Thank you so much. I've got Brian yelling at me, and I don't need that. Jimmy, thank you so much. I hope we get to speak with you again. Have a great rest of your week. More coming up on the Rob Carson Show.
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Caller/Guest
All right.
[40:04]
Mary Walter
I'm Mary Walter in for Rob Carson. I'll be with you again tomorrow and I'll be with you again on Friday. Coming up, we're going to talk tomorrow about a government run grocery store in another state, in this one in Chicago that just doesn't seem to be doing well. So we'll talk about that tomorrow. Have a great day and I'll see you tomorrow right here on the Rob Carson Show.