Rep. Chip Roy Talks Minnesota

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show – Rep. Chip Roy Talks Minnesota

Newsmax Podcasts — January 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the escalating law enforcement operations against illegal immigration in Minnesota, the political dynamics between federal agencies and local officials, the fallout from a protester’s shooting by ICE agents, and broader national issues related to border security, government funding, and party politics. Rob Carson and his co-host blend political commentary with sharp-tongued humor, examining the narratives shaping the news cycle and featuring a detailed interview with Congressman Chip Roy (R-TX).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ongoing ICE Surge and Protester Shooting in Minnesota

• ICE Crackdown: Carson addresses intensive federal actions against illegal immigration in Minneapolis, sparked by a crackdown on alleged criminal illegal aliens. He notes the ongoing arrests and public concern over the timeline.
  • “We continue to apprehend dozens, if not hundreds of these criminal illegal aliens a day. We're going to continue conducting that mission...until there are no more of those criminal illegal aliens roaming the streets of Minneapolis.” [01:01–01:25]
• Alex Pretty Shooting: The hosts discuss the shooting death of Alex Pretty, an ICU nurse, at an ICE protest. They emphasize that Pretty brought a loaded handgun with extra magazines to the scene, arguing that his actions escalated the risk.
  • “Nobody says, you know, I'm going to go for a walk in a mediocre to bad neighborhood and I'm going to bring two magazines with me just to defend myself. There's a reason why somebody would bring a gun like that...and then of course get in the face of officers and then ultimately got himself shot.” [02:57–03:37]
• Progressive Organization: They report that Pretty was tied to activist networks coordinated by state legislators using encrypted messaging apps to track and counter ICE operations, suggesting deliberate resistance to federal law enforcement. [13:50–15:30]
• Criticism of the Left: Carson lampoons left-wing activists and Minnesota officials for allegedly enabling lawlessness, linking the unrest to high-profile local politicians. He wryly riffs on claims against him, commenting on accusations circulating online.
  • “I mean, I got this weekend I had the first time I've ever been called a Nazi in mass...there's more evidence that I'm an NBA player than I am a Nazi.” [05:44–06:29]

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2. Political Fallout and Leadership Dynamics

• Trump and Minnesota: Carson reads former President Trump’s posts about sending Tom Homan, ex-ICE director, to Minnesota, presenting it as a firm response to left-leaning opposition and ongoing welfare fraud investigations.
  • “President Donald Trump sending borders. Our Tom Homan to Minnesota amid ongoing Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations which are being met by far left demonstrations.” [07:58–08:11]
• Letter from Pam Bondi: The episode satirizes a “strongly worded letter” sent to Minnesota’s governor, Tim Walz, suggesting it catalyzed a shift in Walz’s approach to working with the federal government. [08:52–10:55]
• Speculation on Insurrection Act: The hosts speculate whether federal pressure, including threats of legal action or use of the Insurrection Act, caused Governor Walz to cooperate more actively with federal authorities.
  • “Maybe it's, maybe it's the moment we've been waiting for because there has been the talk of, you know, the Insurrection Act. Maybe it was, hey, hey, we're going to send in the troops, man.” [11:53–12:29]

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3. Broader Immigration and Law Enforcement Issues

• Legislative Involvement: Reports highlight legislators like Alex Falconer and Brad Tabke as organizers of anti-ICE networks, providing tools and coordination to monitor and interfere with ICE operations—raising questions about obstruction of justice.
  • “Falconer is currently serves as a Commerce and Education Policy committee. Whether state level officials are using their positions to incite dangerous conversations between citizens and law enforcement.” [14:28–15:08]
• Comment from ICE and Law Experts: Federal voices convey the position that resistance to law enforcement creates needless danger.
  • Greg Bovino (ICE): “When someone chooses to listen to a politician, a so called journalist, a community leader that spouted that type of vilification...when you choose to listen to that, that is a choice and there are consequences...” [18:26–18:59]
  • Kash Patel: “You cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. You don't have that right to break the law and incite violence.” [19:03–19:24]

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4. In-depth Interview: Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX)

On Minnesota, ICE, and Political Shifts

• Tom Homan's Role: Roy expresses support for deploying Homan, emphasizing expertise and restoring law and order. He signals hope that Walz’s stance indicates a political turning point.
  • “Tom knows how to do this and do it the right way. And the President recognizes this is a moment for leadership. You know, we've got to stand behind ICE...We're not going to retreat.” [22:53–23:27]
• Fraud and Distraction: Roy argues that the unrest in Minnesota is, in part, a distraction from large-scale welfare fraud revealed in the Somali community, tied to state and local leadership.
  • “Walls and Company up there, they know the gig is up and they want every distraction they can get to get away from people focusing...on the now well exposed billions of dollars of fraud to the Somali community and generally.” [25:30–25:56]

On Funding, Government Shutdowns, and Party Dynamics

• Democrats and ICE Funding: Roy decries Democratic attempts to defund federal law enforcement and urges the GOP to remain united in linking government funding to security, not yielding to splits that might imperil DHS.
  • “Democrats want to defund ICE and Border Patrol. I stand with ICE and Border Patrol. So I voted for the funding bill. We got to fund it, we got to stand with them...” [27:07–27:13]
• Shutting Down Government: Roy describes GOP strategies to force Democrats to take responsibility for shutdowns, vowing to use legislative leverage to ensure ICE and Homeland Security are funded.
  • “If they want to shut down all that stuff, then that's on them...But if they're going to shut down war, if they're going to shut down DHS, then they got to own it.” [27:55–28:13]

2026 Political Landscape and the Media

• Polling & Minority Voters: Carson cites high Democratic leader disapproval and a 23-point rightward shift among Hispanics (Emerson poll), seeing a sea change in voter sentiment.
  • “Emerson reporting Hispanics have shifted 23 points toward Republicans for the 2026 midterms versus years ago.” [30:40–30:48]
• Media & Voter Sentiment: Roy and Carson agree the mainstream media spins the news in favor of Democrats, but believe Americans are demanding law, order, and sensible leadership.
  • “Media is trying to spin up every single possible way...but the American people actually can see, wait, I want our streets to be safe. Wait a minute. Minneapolis is kind of a mess...they're thwarting law enforcement. They're actually encouraging it. And nobody thinks that's a good idea.” [31:10–31:50]

Foreign Policy: Iran and Venezuela

• Iran’s Regime: Roy advocates for “peace through strength” and praises strong deterrence against Iran’s nuclear program, while expressing solidarity with Iranian demonstrators.
  • “I think the President gave a fairly strong nudge when he dropped a bunker buster on their butt and made clear that they weren't going to be allowed to have nuclear weapons...I stand with the people of Iran who are going out on the streets and risking their lives for freedom and a better way of life. And God bless them.” [35:03–36:35]
• Venezuela/Maduro: Praises recent U.S. signals to Venezuela's regime as assertive, with positive regional repercussions. [35:23–35:35]

Personal & Lighter Moments

• Duck on the Dashboard: In a moment of levity, Chip Roy laughs about Jeep owners’ tradition of dashboard ducks, sharing his own connection to a local Oktoberfest duck in Texas. [36:53–37:28]

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Rob Carson on Backlash to His Videos:

  • "I got this weekend I had the first time I've ever been called a Nazi in mass...there's more evidence that I'm an NBA player than I am a Nazi." [05:44–06:29]

• ICE Official’s Warning:

  • "When someone chooses to listen to a politician, a so called journalist, a community leader that spouted that type of vilification towards law enforcement...there are consequences and actions there also." — Greg Bovino [18:26–18:59]

• Chip Roy on Minnesota's Political Shift:

  • “Walls and Company up there, they know the gig is up and they want every distraction they can get to get away from people focusing...on the now well exposed billions of dollars of fraud to the Somali community and generally.” [25:30–25:56]

• Roy on Government Shutdown Strategy:

  • “If they want to shut down war, if they’re going to shut down DHS, then they got to own it. And we've got to stick that, you know, on their responsibility.” [28:13–28:22]

• Carson’s Optimism for 2026:

  • “I'm very optimistic. I think 2026 is going to be...one of the greatest years of our lives, to be quite honest.” [37:28–37:37]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• ICE Operations & Shooting Breakdown – 01:01–03:37
• Minneapolis Protester’s Background & Political Ties – 13:16–15:30
• ICE and Law Enforcement Voices – 18:26–19:31
• Chip Roy Interview: Minneapolis Politics/ICE – 22:53–25:56
• Funding, Shutdowns, Party Dynamics – 27:07–29:55
• Polling and Party Shifts – 30:10–31:50
• Iran & Foreign Policy – 34:43–36:39
• Personal: Jeep Ducks and Outlook for 2026 – 36:53–37:56

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Episode Summary Takeaway

This high-energy episode offers a dense, satirical take on the ICE crackdown in Minnesota and its complex intersection with local politics, activist networks, and federal leadership. Rob Carson and Rep. Chip Roy blend policy critique with humor, emphasizing support for law enforcement, deriding political opponents’ conduct, and forecasting a dramatic shift in the American political climate as the 2026 midterms approach. For listeners tracking the convergence of immigration, law enforcement, and political narratives, this episode is packed with both substance and vivid, provocative commentary.

Transcript

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[Show Co-host]

This surge will end.

[Rob Carson]

Has there been a date set? Is there a certain number of people you want to apprehend before you decide to ease the surge? We continue to apprehend dozens, if not hundreds of these criminal illegal aliens a day. We're going to continue conducting that mission. We're not going to put a date or a timeline to stop this mission. This mission's ongoing until there are no more of those criminal illegal aliens roaming the streets of Minneapolis. Is there a number, though? You have to have a file. There is a number and it's called all of Them.

[Show Co-host]

There you go. It's all of Them. All of Them. Yeah. Absolutely. Hello. Welcome. Hi. How are you? What a, what a weekend. My gosh, what a weekend. A lot of snow. A gigantic snowstorm across the, the entire southern, middle, middle and southern part of the country. Billions of tons of snow. I mean, honestly, look at this. Look what global warming is doing to our country. It's just making us freeze. We got some here in the Northern Virginia area. Usually Northern Virginia doesn't handle snow too well, but I was actually kind of impressed. Got about 10, maybe 12 inches of snow here. My friend Paul Shanklin, who does all these wonderful song parodies, I'm wondering why I hadn't heard from him this morning. I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. What is wrong with Paul Shanklin? Oh, my God. Paul Shanklin. Paul Shanklin wrote for Rush Limbaugh. Jim Gossett. What is wrong with Jim Gossett? Oh, my God, I feel so dirty. I said the other guy's name. But anyway, Jim Gossett. No word this morning. I'm like, what is going on? Maybe he's frozen. I Have no idea. Maybe he looks like Jack Nicholson after the end of the Shining. I didn't know what was going on. Well, he wrote me and he says, hey man, I got a great parody that you came. You know, I sent him an idea over the weekend and he goes, I would get it done but we don't have any electricity. So there you go. There you go. It has been a wild. It has been a wild weekend, hasn't it? I would like to say that I just camped out at home and did nothing. But no, I was on social media. I was doing all sorts of show prep and everything. I got all sorts of viral this weekend, not having an illness, but people just, you know, my videos just blowing up on social media because I did a video on Saturday about this guy in Minnesota and how, you know, you shouldn't go to a rally where, or I should say get involved with the police action in a fully loaded handgun with two clips with you because nobody does that for just protection. Nobody says, you know, I'm going to go for a walk in a kind of a mediocre to bad neighborhood and I'm going to bring two magazines with me just to defend myself. There's a reason why somebody would bring a gun like that. And, and then of course, two magazines to, to interrupt a police action and then of course get in the face of officers and then ultimately got himself shot. And in the left, of course, is all of a sudden, all of a sudden, I don't know if you knew this, But George Floyd, 2025, has white privilege. So there is that. We're going to get into a lot of this on this Pretty shooting. The man's name was Pretty. And, and also we're discovering all sorts of. Alex Pretty was his name. He was a father, by the way. He had kids, but he chose to be infected by the mania of the left and do stupid crap like going to these protests, being involved in this massive group of people involving thousands of people, including Minnesota politicians who have been effectively surveilling everyone who comes into the city doing these quick action, violent mobs against ICE agents. And all of this, it's all coming out now and he was a part of it. And then ultimately he got shot to death because he had a loaded handgun with two magazines on him when he decided to confront armed ICE agents and get in the way of them trying to arrest a criminal illegal alien. And so now Renee Goode is no longer part of the equation. She's faded into history. Then over the weekend, there was a five year Old was arrested. A five year old was arrested. Oh, my ice. Ice was arresting five year olds from now. Turns out they actually were going after the kid's dad. The kid's dad is a complete scumbag. And the dad, of course, we mentioned on Friday, basically, here, the kid, it's yours. Like, threw the kid at him to distract him, you know, knocked him over like bowling pins and then ran away. And the left is going ape guano. But I mean, I got this weekend I had the first time I've ever been called a Nazi in mass. I mean, a lot of people calling me Nazi over the weekend. It was kind of interesting, this video that I posted on Twitter and I mean, it just exploded with, you're a Nazi, you're a white supremacist. What else? They call me boomer. I'm a boomer. I'm not a boomer. I'm a generator. I'm a Gen Xer. Boomers are like Jefferson Airplane in Woodstock. I'm like Soundgarden and in Lollapalooza. So it's a totally different thing. It's a totally different thing. But I got called a boomer and I got called all sorts of crap. It was, it was actually. It was. It was actually. I don't let things like this bother me too much. I actually kind of found it laughable because there's no evidence in my entire life or social media presence that I'm a racist or a Nazi or a white supremacist. So I said, basically, there's more evidence that I'm an NBA player than I am a Nazi. But they're lashing out. I told you. What did I tell you about the left? They're dying like movie vampires. They are dying like movie vampires. They are dragging into hell. They're trying to drag us. They're gnashing their teeth, they're grabbing at us and stuff. They're trying to drag us into hell. And it's not going to work. It's not going to work at all. It is. It is laughable and dangerous at the same time. And of course, you know, the, the. Ultimately, we had another insane person shot this weekend. Oddly enough, in 2024, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison was among 17 AGs who contended there's no right to carry a gun at political rallies and protests. January 26, 2024. Filing in support of upholding California's gun controls for sensitive places in the ninth circuit. The two. You should not be allowed to carry a firearm in an event involving political speech like political Rallies and protests. They are gun free sensitive places. So again, another narrative by the left shot down, so shot down so, so very easily. It's just not even funny. It's not even, it's not even funny at all. So there is that. Then of course there's this. President Donald Trump sending borders. Our Tom Homan to Minnesota amid ongoing Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations which are being met by far left demonstrations. Trump said Monday morning. By the way, I'm sending Tom Homan to Minnesota tonight. He has not been involved in that area, but knows and likes many of the people there. Tom is tough but fair. Will report to me separately, a major investigation is going on with respect to the massive $20 billion plus welfare fraud that has taken place in Minnesota and at least partially responsible for the violent organized protests going on in the streets. Additionally, the GOJ and Congress are looking at Congresswoman Ilhan Omar who left Somalia with nothing and now is worth more than $44 million. And then this truth post from the President this morning, Governor Tim Waltz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. What must have been that strongly worded letter from Pam Bondi. That must have been it because Pam Bondi said she, she wrote a pretty terse letter and she actually looked like a complete moron. She looked really, really stupid and weak and, and I really lost a lot of respect for her this weekend. Here she is.

[Rob Carson]

Rape, homicide, manslaughter. That's who they're trying to protect in Minnesota. I do not understand these people. We sent Governor Walls a very strong letter today.

[Show Co-host]

Yeah, a really strong letter. And she, she used all caps and part of it and stuff.

[Rob Carson]

We had been working on this letter. We got it out saying that he better support President Trump.

[Show Co-host]

Yeah, you better. We're gonna send another letter tomorrow.

[Rob Carson]

He better support the men and women.

[Show Co-host]

Send an email and then maybe a fruit basket or something. It's gonna get ugly.

[Rob Carson]

Law enforcement. Because if he doesn't, we are, and that's what we're doing right now. Were there any consequences in this letter? Well, we'll see. This is fluid. Let, let's see how Governor Walts responds. Let's see what he does based on this, based on what's happening right now. But this administration is going to support the citizens. We're going to support our great men and women in law enforcement.

[Show Co-host]

Okay, so I guess it was the letter. What did the letter say? I wonder, what did the letter say? If it was the letter that did it. If it was the letter, who that did it? I mean, There, there was some pretty crazy stuff in that letter. They've been like Donald Trump saying, I'm going to shovel missile up your rear end. I have no idea, I really have no idea what it would be. But anyway, I told Governor Waltz that I would have Tom home and call him and that we are looking for any criminals they have in their possession. The government, very respectful, understood that and I will be speaking to him. And if you must have said something like, hey man, we know what you're up to, we have evidence and we're going to send your ass to jail for the rest of your life. Maybe that was it. Maybe that was it. Yeah. He was happy that Tom Homan was going to Minnesota and so am I. We've had such tremendous success in Minneapolis, D.C. memphis, Tennessee and New Orleans, virtually every other place that we have touched. And even in Minnesota, crime is way down. But both Governor Walts and I want to make it better. Must have done something. He had a little come to Jesus moment. I'm thinking old Tim Waltz had a little come to Jesus moment because he was being all sorts of belligerent this weekend. Here he is. This is what he said, I guess Saturday after the strongly worded letter.

[Rob Carson]

Is there anything we can do to meet the Trump administration, at least part of the way? Well, first of all, it's not a serious attempt and the Attorney General send that in. I, again, I would thank the local folks and Commissioner Snell, a great thank you to you and your team over there.

[Show Co-host]

I wonder if there's something in there about you will go to jail for the rest of your life because we have some dirt on you, maybe something like that. I don't know.

[Rob Carson]

In that letter they talked about, you know, you need to hand people over who are in your jails. They're taking credit for people that we've had in jail for a long time.

[Show Co-host]

Why do you let them out, you jerk?

[Rob Carson]

Always hand them over in the commissioner. Very clearly. So they're lying.

[Show Co-host]

No, no, you are actually lying.

[Rob Carson]

This has nothing to do with fraud. As the Attorney General said, they're not selling sending us forensic accountants. And these are things that have been we're dealing with now and have been.

[Show Co-host]

Covering up for quite some time.

[Rob Carson]

So look, it's not a serious attempt to get at this. The way to fix this is, is get these folks out of here. We've continued to work with them.

[Show Co-host]

They must have got serious over the weekend. I don't know what it is. I'm speculating, ruminating and all of this, but something happened. Old Timmy had some sort of a come to Jesus moment. Maybe it's, maybe it's the moment we've been waiting for because there has been the talk of, you know, the insurrection act. Maybe it was, hey, hey, we're going to send in the troops, man. We're going to send them in. We're going to, we're going to take it, you know, whatever. I don't know. I'm just saying, all of a sudden this morning, old Timmy is one in the get along gang. He's in the get along gang. So I'm kind of curious as to what happened. Anyway, we got a bunch of stuff to get to a lot of audio with regard to this Alex Pred, his parents told him not to engage with ICE and don't do anything stupid. But he went ahead and did something stupid. Even when you're 37, you can't get your kid to listen to you. It's amazing. Here's the number. 800-922-6680. This is the Rob Carson Show. The Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere.

[Rob Carson]

Go to newsmax.com listen for details. This individual impeded the law enforcement officers and attacked them. State the facts as they unfolded on the street today. We were doing a targeted operation against an illegal criminal and this individual came with a weapon and dozens of rounds of ammunition and attacked them.

[Show Co-host]

Yeah, not your typical concealed carry guy. I know plenty of concealed carry guys. I've been one too. By the way. You don't usually take a couple mags.

[Rob Carson]

With you and this agent, have them on your person, took action to defend their lives and to defend the lives the people around them and acted according to their training. And we will continue to let this process go forward and not allow people like Governor Walls and Mayor Fry to lie about what actually unfolded on that street. Now they have deemed this situation an unlawful assembly and these leaders aren't even cleaning up the situation that they have. As far as the violent riots that.

[Show Co-host]

We see unfold, these aren't protests at all. When you break out hotel windows to look for ICE agents, that's a violent mob. And more and more is coming out today. It's this story is breaking all over. I mean all the place for real, including this Alex Preddy guy being tied to high level organizational efforts within the Minnesota state legislature. Reports indicate that pretty a 37 year old ICU nurse shot by federal agents was an active member of an anti ice signal chat group used to coordinate rapid responses. Track federal agents across Minneapolis. The man behind the chat is state representative Alex Falconer, freshman DFL legislator from district, has publicly admitted to leading these rapid response networks, using the Signal app to recruit residents into a resistance network. This is insurrection, by the way. Use families to impede ice. Members of Falconer Signal groups instructed to send alerts when they see suspicious vehicles or known federal agents. On the morning he was killed, News of the ICE operation near Nicoladin 26 was reportedly transmitted across these very rapid response networks, drawing protesters, including Preddy to the scene. Federal critics argue these networks are being used intentionally obstruct and harass officers carrying out lawful duties. Falconer is currently serves as a Commerce and Education Policy committee. Whether state level officials are using their their positions to incite dangerous conversations between citizens and law enforcement. Then there is this. This just coming in from State Representative Brad Tab Key to organized ICE interference explosive new evidence shared by online here. Minnesota State Representative Brad Tabke, just a supporter of ICE Watch, he appears to be primary architect coordinator and dispatcher Representative Tadke is allegedly personally managing ICE Watch shift. He is thanked by name for organizing the effort, which includes recruiting volunteers for patrol dispatch, even food delivery at the New Creation Church in Shakopee, Minnesota. Tabke's organization provides volunteers with specific Signal group links for daily Scott County RR chat, Google maps, routes for hotspots and instructions on how to use the Signal app to monitor federal agents in real time. The program includes in person training sessions at Shakopee Library there. You know, I like to go down there and check out the books there every once in a while. Ensuring that volunteers are fully prepared to peacefully observe or as critics allege, impede federal law enforcement officials during lawful operations. Physical evidence corroborates Tabke's public behavior where he has been caught posting real time updates on ICE movements at apartment buildings and restaurants through Shakopee multiple times a day. By coordinating shifts, dispatching individuals to locations, developing real time operational guidance, Tab Key is moving beyond legislative dissent and into potential federal obstruction of justice. The massive ICE Watch network appears designed to shield the very cooperation and massive fraud that President Trump and Secretary Noem have warned is being uncovered in Minneapolis. Now we know why it got so organized. No, it isn't necessarily Alex Soros and George Soros and all that. It's exo Minnesota politicians. Allegedly. Allegedly. And then of course Alex Pretty was one of the. The useful idiots. That's what. That's what Marx used to call him. Used to call him. No, no, no, it wasn't. It wasn't. It was Stalin. It was. No, it wasn't Stalin. It was. Well, one of those, those Russians called him useful idiots. Called him useful idiots do anything stupid. Basically. Alex Pretty was told by his parents with not to engage with federal offers while attending the protests in Minnesota. Preddy had been carrying a gun with two loaded magazines at the time of the shooting on Saturday his dad said we had this discussion with him two weeks ago that go ahead and protest but not engage. Do not do anything stupid. And he said he knows that. He knew that family members of Freddy said he owned a handgun and that he had permit to carry it in the state but it never been known to carry the firearm. Video showed Pretty engaging with officers who then wrestled him to the ground in one angle of the shooting. Officers were held yetting heard, heard yelling he's got a gun. And the shots rang out. This after a weekend where one agent actually had his finger bitten off by one of these little bleep holes. Yeah. Here's Greg Bovino of ICE with a with a simple lesson.

[Rob Carson]

When someone chooses to listen to a politician, a so called journalist, a community leader that spouted that type of vilification towards law enforcement or anything else, when you choose to listen to that, that is a choice and there are consequences and actions there also. I think we saw that yesterday. And those actions and choices can obviously have tragic consequences, bad outcomes, outcomes that law enforcement never wants to see. Law enforcement never wants to see a bad consequence due to a poor choice.

[Show Co-host]

Now here is Cash Patel with some obvious advice.

[Rob Carson]

You cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. You don't have that right to break the law and incite violence. We will of course always protect your first amendment speech. And if you peacefully protest, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But you have seen a trend here not just in Minnesota but across the country in these protests turning into violent scenarios and people attacking law enforcement. That's when you go over the line and that's when law enforcement steps.

[Show Co-host]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. So there you go on the way. Chip Roy is going to be on the show next. The Chip Roy Congressman Chip Roy is going to be on the show next. We're going to talk about not only his grilling of Jack Smith last week but also what do you think happened that changed him? Vult's mind today. Gonna talk about Iran. We're gonna talk about all sorts of stuff. It's on the other side of the break. Do not go anywhere. This is gonna be really, really good. Let's take a break and come back. This is the ROB CARSON show. Hey guys, it's Carson for Relief Factor. You know, one of the most rewarding parts of sharing Relief Factor with you is all the real stories like Sandra's. She tells us. I'd been hearing about Relief Factor on the radio for a couple of years, finally decided to try it because nothing else has helped my back pain. With the three week quick start, I went for it. Now I feel like a new person. Those are Sandra's own words. And it's just so gratifying to hear. I've experienced that kind of relief myself. And knowing folks like Sandra out there are feeling better makes it all worth it. Try it for yourself with a three week quick start. See how Relief Factor could be a game changer, too. Call 800 for relief, that's 800 for relief. Or go to relieffactor.com that's relieffactor.com how will it feel to be out of pain?

[Rob Carson]

Experienced prosecutors know that specific case outcomes are beyond our control. What I found interesting, you know, some one of my colleagues asked him, hey, what's your party affiliation registration? Well, you know, I don't know if I'm registered in any certain party. I may not even be registered. Which made me wonder, well, do you vote? Of course, you know, these things. And this was all about targeting Trump using the power that he had. And by the way, we've got to review all of the powers that these special counsel, special prosecutors have because he had no bounds, no limits. He's going after literally 400 plus conservative organizations that were targeted because they were friendly with President Trump or in my case, as a congressman. The separation of powers aside, I'm a citizen and I was targeted because I was having text messages and phone conversations with Scott Perry, who, by the way, had his phone compensated in front of his family on vacation.

[Show Co-host]

Yeah. It was a busy week last week for Representative Chip Roy from Texas. He joins us on the Newsmax hotline for the very first time today. Welcome, my friend. Welcome to the show.

[Rob Carson]

Great to be on. Hope you're doing well.

[Show Co-host]

Yeah, I'm well, man. So are you a typical Texan? You're not so good driving in the snow, are you? Are you in D.C. well, I mean, I'm in Texas.

[Rob Carson]

We've got ice, you know, look, I've got four wheel drive and I've got a winch on my Jeep, so I'm pretty good to go. But, you know. Yeah, yeah, I see.

[Show Co-host]

There's no, there's no, there's no messing with ice. You can't drive in that Stuff, I'll tell you. But, but welcome to the show. I, I had the opportunity to meet you my first skiff in Washington D.C. and since moving here six months ago. It was real pleasure to meet you and hope get to know you a little bit here. But man, there's a whole bunch of stuff on the table. I want to start off, I want to get to the Jack Smith stuff. But it looks like Tim Waltz has had a little come to Jesus today over the weekend, talking tough all of this and this morning he's like, you know, we're going to have Tom Holman. What do you suppose happened? Do you have any idea?

[Rob Carson]

Well, first of all, I want to start with the President and his leadership and demonstrating that he's not backing down but importantly naming Tom Homan as the guy that he wants as his general on the ground in Minneapolis. Tom Homan is a good man, former ICE director. He was literally given a medal by President Obama. And of course now they hate him, they call him a Nazi and whatnot. But my point remains. Tom knows how to do this and do it the right way. And the President recognizes this is a moment for leadership. You know, we've got to stand behind ice.

[Show Co-host]

Ice.

[Rob Carson]

We're not going to retreat, we're going to enforce the law, we're not going to allow them to take away funding from ice. But we're going to put the right leadership on the ground to do this all the right way. We want there to be cool heads. We want to make sure that we create a climate where we're not, you know, creating situation where this can occur. But Waltz is an interesting variable to your point because Waltz has been the one fomenting this and creating this climate.

[Show Co-host]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

And so I think this is an indication that he's getting the joke. And look, I saw a poll earlier today that showed border patrol and ICE still polling pretty well. The average American was sick of what was happening to Lake and Riley, sick of what was happening to Jocelyn ungrate, to Rachel Marin, to Officer Mendoza in Arizona. I go down laundry list the people in Minnesota that have been raped and murdered and killed, the dangerous individuals on our streets because these radical left is going to organize effort, want to politicize this for political power. And that's what it's about. It's about power. And they've seen Minneapolis as ground zero for being able to carry out their antifa radical efforts. And so credit to President Trump, credit to Tom Homan. And look, you know, hopefully Wallace is talking to the President. I'll believe it. When I see it, I know he's talking to him, but hopefully he'll listen to the president and listen to Tom, But I'll believe that when I see it.

[Show Co-host]

Well, you look at the actions of the government and the governor and the. And the AG and the mayor and all of this. There has been billions and billions of dollars worth of fraud. It took a guy named Nick Shirley just to go up and knock on a door to figure out all this fraud. And then Dr. Oz was up there. He was chased. So the leaders of that state knew what the hell was going on. And I think that maybe there's a little putting the heavy on him about, you know, legal charges against him and his administration, among other things. I was, you know, a lot of people are cheering the possibility of bringing on the Insurrection Act. I, you know, if it has to happen, it has to happen, but I would much rather avoid it. And it sounds like we might moving. Be moving in the direction of avoiding it.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I just want to mention something. I think that's related to what you're saying. Look, remember, this has all been exploding after we brought the light.

[Show Co-host]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

Fraud and all of the absurdities going on there. So I think the Walls and Company up there, they know the gig is up and they want every distraction they can get to get away from people focusing on the. The now well exposed billions of dollars of fraud to the Somali community and generally. And the extent to which that's all connected to this entire radical network.

[Show Co-host]

Yep.

[Rob Carson]

So the people of Minnesota, the good people of Minnesota, they don't want this. The people of America don't want this. They want their country back. They want sovereignty back. You know, look, they don't. They don't want to see civil unrest. That's why the President's sending Tom home, and that's why the President's talking to all. But they don't want to walk away from our job to secure this country, secure our sovereignty. And frankly, the president should use the Insurrection act if he has to. He should know that we will have his back to fund ice no matter what the Democrats try to do to defund ICE this week. We did our job last week. And by the way, this is really important. Some of us conservatives who do not like voting for appropriations bills. I mean, I voted against a lot of them because they always have garbage in there that I. That the average American hates that funds program funds, things like that, National Endowment for Democracy right in the state. Operations build other things. But I voted for the Homeland Security bill, the appropriations bill. I Voted against the other ones, but I voted for that one because you have to pick. When you're going to pick shirts and skins, you got to pick size. Democrats want to defund ICE and Border Patrol. I stand with ICE and Border Patrol. So I voted for the funding bill. We got to fund it, we got to stand with them. And then we can, you know, get busy continuing to make changes, working with the great people in Trump's administration.

[Show Co-host]

You know, the Democrat Party, let's face it, we're going into the midterms here. They're going to do anything they can to kill the economy like they did during 2020, before, you know, the election. They did the same damn thing. And so they're trying to kill the economy. They got a shutdown before in December. They may have, may have lessened the massive growth of the GDP from, you know, maybe it'll probably be about 5%. It was 4.4 over the summer. And then they want to do it now. They're looking anything to shut down the government blame. They're still doing this crap, Chip Roy, but I think it's falling flat. And do you think that them trying to shut down the government, unless we defund ice, how are we going to prevent that from happening? And what is the possibility of that happening this week?

[Rob Carson]

Well, we are having conversations, and I was having them all weekend with the White House and with my colleagues in the U.S. house about what we can do to stop Democrats from doing that. Now, my personal belief is step one is under no circumstances should we allow them to split off Homeland Security and have a separate vote on that, because then they will leverage to kill that. If they want to shut down all this, then they're going to shut it all down. Right now they have a package over there that includes the Department of War, that includes Transportation, that includes Labor H which is Health and Human Services and Labor and Education. If they want to shut all that down, and by the way, I'm shutting down a good chunk of those things. If they want to shut down all that stuff, then that's on them. Yeah, but if they're going to shut down war, if they're going to shut down dhs, then they got to own it. And we've got to stick that, you know, on their responsibility. And we're having, you know, significant conversations about what we can do as Republicans. There are two paths for Republicans if they don't want to do their job. One, we passed another reconciliation bill. Remember last summer we passed 150 billion for defense and 150 billion for border security. We gave the president room to be able to deal with these idiots and that was really important. We can do it again and we can do it quickly if we chose to. Secondly, the senators have got to blow up the abusive fake filibuster 60 vote threshold. Yes, they can do that by forcing them to go speak on the floor or they could frankly just nuke the filibuster for purposes of funding government. I'm not sure they need to do a full nuke, but they can just say, look, we're not going to have a 60 vote threshold when we're talking about funding government. We have a majority to fund government. We're going to do it. Now look, that means that can be used against us. But okay, so be it. Go in the argument. But bottom line is we need to find a way to make sure our men and women uniform, both in the Pentagon and at Homeland Security are being funded.

[Show Co-host]

Now, Chip Roy, can you hold through the break? Is it possible? I know you're a very busy man.

[Rob Carson]

Sure. For you. I'll do it, brother.

[Show Co-host]

I appreciate it. We got more with Chip Roy coming up. We're going to be covering January 6th. We're going to be covering Jack Smith, among other things, maybe Iran as well. That's coming up. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

Take a look at how Democrats who disapprove of congressional Democratic leaders. Hello. Talking about 57% in January of 2026, the second highest disapproval rate for Democratic leaders from their own party on record. It's only beat by what we saw earlier on in this Congress when it was 61%. There's basically been no improvement. Democrats hate their own congressional leaders. These numbers are awful, awful, awful.

[Show Co-host]

That and also I'm seeing Emerson reporting Hispanics have shifted 23 points toward Republicans for the 2026 midterms versus years ago. I'm thinking some of that has to do with Maduro of other things that if Cuba falls it's going to get really big and ugly for the Democrats. Chip Roy, representative from Texas, joins us on the Newsmax hotline. You know, the thing that I love is that the Democrat Party didn't learn anything from 2024 and they're doubling down on stupid. And I think it's beginning to catch up with them. What do you think?

[Rob Carson]

Well, I think that's right and I think that the American people are seeing the benefits of what the president and his leadership is doing now. Look, the media is trying to spin up every single possible way that they can to make this you know, blow up and to try to undermine the president and undermine his agenda. Right. It's all political, but the American people actually can see, wait, I want our streets to be safe. Wait a minute. Minneapolis is kind of a mess. They're engaged in fraud. They've opened up their floodgates to have all these Somalis in their communities. They're thwarting law enforcement. They're actually encouraging it. And nobody thinks that's a good idea. So I think the president's right here. He's saying, look, I don't want anybody to get shot. I don't want the president of the United States. I want there to be peace. I want all this to be done the right way. But he's also being resolved that Minneapolis is at the core of the problem because of their leadership. So he's trying to put pressure on their leadership to do it right. And the American people are seeing it. And I think to your question, to your point, that that is blowing up on Democrats because they're the ones that seem out of touch with the average American.

[Show Co-host]

Well, I think that. And I proposed this last year, I said we're going to have to get the good news across in a vacuum of good news from the media because they're never going to say anything is good. I mean, they said that the drug boat captains were fishermen, for God's sake. You know, and it's one thing after another, Chip Roy. It's one thing after another. It's, you know, release Maduro Donald Trump with the end of somebody. Pete Hegseth is a war criminal. Donald Trump is a king. And then it goes on and on. And they're always looking for something. And I think people are just getting damn tired of it, to be quite honest. You know, we went through a lot of crap. You're from Texas. You know what Texans went through with that open border. We're not forgetting that. We're not. And Democrats are siding on the wrong side of history. And I think it's going to catch up with them. I think it is catching up with it. And I don't think. I don't think they're going to win both houses of Congress because this is different. You normally lose seats in the midterms, but the Democrats haven't learned a damn thing in the wrong side of history. And Donald Trump's policies are making the economy and everything go at light speed. What do you think?

[Rob Carson]

Well, I think you're exactly right. And of course, they're on the wrong side of history. I do think we can do well this fall. I do think that the. And frankly, you can watch it, right? You can see the Republicans who were afraid this weekend, they like ran up and they oh well, yeah, this is terrible. We have to like. And they're responding to the left, but they're not recognizing the truth, which is how we want to achieve the common sense on the ground and make sure everything is being done the right way. That this effort to undermine our security, that's the thing that the American people are focused on. So look, I think politically we've just got to do our job. Okay. I think at the end of the day, when you try to move yourself around, flapping in the winds of polls and what the media is saying, you lose. When you lead, you win because American people want leaders. They want to see results. They want to see prices go down. They want to see a strong economy. They want to see their border secure. They want to see criminals off the streets. They want to know that their families are safe. They want to know that they're going to be able to keep more of their own hard earned money. They want to be able to have their kids go get a good education but not be indoctrinated. They want the military to be able to blow things up and kill bad guys and not be a woke social engineering experiment.

[Show Co-host]

Yep.

[Rob Carson]

It's just your common sense.

[Show Co-host]

Absolutely. What about Iran? What do you think about Iran? I think they need a little nudge. I think they need a little nudge and I have a feeling the President's going to give them that little nudge because we can't. The Ayatollahs can't continue to run that country. They've caused too much chaos the last 47 years around the world, including killing a whole lot of Americans. What are your thoughts on that?

[Rob Carson]

Well, look, I think the President gave a fairly strong nudge when he dropped a bunker buster on their butt and made clear that they weren't going to be allowed to have nuclear weapons. And there is nothing probably more important. Although this shot across the bow of Maduro is really important.

[Show Co-host]

Oh yes.

[Rob Carson]

And what we did in going in there and people all like hand wringing about it, we sent a signal to the world about our capability. We sent a signal to the world that we care about Western hemisphere, that we want to restore order, that these drug cartels aren't going to be able to run amok. And in Iran we're seeing leadership. And the fact that these people are on the streets is a direct result of the President's leadership to Say, you guys don't get to have nuclear weapons. We're not going to let you continue to, you know, inflict terror on the world. Now, how that all plays out, President's going to, you know, I think he's got a reserved but, but strong foreign policy. Marco Rubio has been doing a great job. We're not looking to be in endless wars. We're not looking to have a 20 year, seven or $8 trillion war in the Middle east like we did in the first quarter of the century. This president wants us to end wars. He wants us to not be in conflict. He wants peace through strength. Marco Rubio is doing an excellent job, and I think that we're going to continue to do that and push back and hopefully. And I do want to say I stand with the people of Iran who are going out on the streets and risking their lives for freedom and a better way of life. And God bless them. We're praying for them.

[Show Co-host]

Amen, brother.

[Rob Carson]

And we hope that they'll be successful.

[Show Co-host]

Well, we are almost out of time, my friend. I'm sorry to do that. I hope maybe we could get you in for a longer podcast at some point. Representative Chip Roy, one other thing. You're a Jeep owner. Do you have a duck on your dashboard?

[Rob Carson]

So I have one. It's awesome. It's this little like, like duck that looks like a German. So, you know, we have a German community here in the, we have Sports Fest, is our full October fest in New Braunfels, Texas. And so I've got a duck from that and it's awesome.

[Show Co-host]

So there's not a whole bunch of ducks. That's kind of, that's kind of a chick thing. When you own a Jeep, you got a whole bunch of ducks. That's. That's too much. That's overkill.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I kind of shy away from those, but when I got the German document, it reminds me of beer and like Leader Hosen and, you know, music and pretzels. I'm like, okay, I'm in.

[Show Co-host]

Well, I'm, I'm very optimistic. I think 2026 is going to be the. One of the greatest years of our lives, to be quite honest. Representative and I greatly appreciate your time today. Twitter at rep Trip Roy. Anywhere else can people can follow you, my friend?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, chiproytx. That's my personal account. You know, as you know, I'm running for Attorney General and running for the state of Texas to keep the Texas safe and secure and appreciate you. Appreciate the time. God bless you. Everybody stay safe out there in the snow and icy roads all across the country.

[Show Co-host]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. Thank you, sir.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely unacceptable. Terrible, awful. ICE agents are just doing their job and I fully support that. And for, for me and people in my party might want to abolish it or, you know, treat them as criminals or anything that's. That's inappropriate and outrageous.

[Show Co-host]

Okay, there. It's John Fetterman speaking. Some common sense. I think this whole attempt to defund ICE and, and border patrol shut down the government is going to fall on its face. Sit down. Price of gold, almost $5100. Price of gold today, $5097. Did you hear what I just said? We went over. We're $100 higher than Friday. Silver is at $116. Silver is on $116. Birch Gold is the company that I trust. I would suggest you get on this now. I've never seen anything like this in my life. Gold is above $5,000. Text my name, Rob to 989-898. Rob to 989-898. If you're a first time gold buyer, Birch offering a rebate up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. That ends in four days. Gold is at $5,097. Silver is what, $116. Silver was $30 last year at this time. Gold was 2,700 last year. Around this time, Birch gold. Text my name, Rob to 989-898. Rob to 9. I've never seen anything like it and it is not slowing down anytime soon. I actually called Birch gold today to take a little bit of something out of one account and move it over to gold myself today. So we got lots to get to. On the other side of the break, more from Minnesota. Your calls welcome 800-922-6680 hour number two of the Rob Carson show right ahead. Don't go anywhere, Sam.