Rep. Kat Cammack Discusses the "Democrat Insurrection PSA"

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Rep. Kat Cammack Discusses the “Democrat Insurrection PSA”
Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guest: Rep. Kat Cammack (FL), Stephen Miller, Eli Crane, Caroline Levitt, Todd Blanche (Deputy AG), Legal/Political Analyst
Theme: Reaction and analysis of a controversial video statement from six Democrat lawmakers calling on military and intelligence community members to disobey ‘illegal orders’—and larger discussions around patriotism, law, DC politics, and media follies.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a viral PSA in which six Democrat lawmakers (some with military/CIA credentials) directly call on US troops and intelligence personnel to “refuse illegal orders”—a message the right-wing media, including Rob Carson and guests, interpret as a brazen, public incitement to insurrection against President Trump's administration. The conversation veers across related topics: the wisdom (or lack thereof) behind the video, the historic reversal of party roles, the practical changes in DC under National Guard presence, ongoing media follies involving Democratic politicians, and a sharp, sometimes humorous, critique of the current political climate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Democrat Insurrection PSA"—Play-by-Play & Immediate Reaction

• [01:56–03:20] Rob Carson plays the PSA, with lawmakers identifying themselves and delivering a message to “refuse illegal orders” for the sake of the Constitution.
• Carson’s Immediate Commentary:
  • Mocks the earnest tone (“You didn’t give any specificity about those orders.”)
  • Interprets the video as a public call for rebellion—“A ham-handed and stupid attempted insurrection.”
  • Quote (Rob Carson, 03:03): “They identified themselves openly and as conspirators. That’s how stupid they are.”

2. Parody & Pop Culture Comparison

• [04:47] Carson connects the lawmakers’ plea to the classic “Animal House” scene—mocking the idea that anyone would actually rally to their call.
• Quote (Rob Carson, 05:06): “Yeah. Nobody followed him? No, nobody following him. That’s what they did yesterday. They exposed their flank so we can kick their butts.”

3. Analysis & Outrage: “Open Conspiracy”

• Stephen Miller’s Take ([06:08–07:21]):
  • Calls the PSA “insurrection... plainly, directly, without question.”
  • Claims it’s a “general call for rebellion from the CIA and armed services.”
  • Quote (Stephen Miller, 06:39): “Democrat lawmakers saying that you have not only the right but the duty and obligation to defy orders of the Commander in Chief.”
• Carson & Miller on Hypothetical Reversal ([07:40]):
  • What if six Republicans had done this under a Democratic president? Predicts “the world would have been upside down.”

4. Contextualizing as Part of a ‘Civil War’

• Miller and Carson ([07:54–09:01]) argue this is one more escalation in a “de facto civil war,” connecting it to prior violence and jury nullification, and accuse Democrats of excusing any action to retain power.
• Quote (Stephen Miller, 08:15): “Physical assault against federal officers. This is a dangerous moment... Their message is that any action... is justified if it keeps Democrat policies in effect at any cost.”

5. PSA Backlash in the News: Jason Crow Grilled ([09:52–11:57])

• Carson and guests dissect Rep. Jason Crow’s cable news appearance, accusing him of hiding behind military credentials instead of providing evidence of actual illegal orders from President Trump.
• Quote (Carson, 10:37): “He’s trying to cover his butt because he knows... he’s in deep.”

6. Legal Ramifications and Seditious Behavior

• Todd Blanche (Deputy AG, [13:20]): Equates the PSA to “fomenting civil war,” reiterates there’s nothing illegal about what the Trump admin is doing, and likens the PSA to “a propaganda video by one of our enemies.”
  • Quote (Blanche, 13:20): “You had members of Congress, members of the Senate, encouraging members of our military... to defy orders. I felt like I was watching a propaganda video by one of our enemies.”
• Carson ([13:51]): “Donald Trump is calling for them [the lawmakers]...seditious behavior punishable by death. It is. This is really bad and dangerous to our country.”
• Repeated Theme: Lawmakers should face consequences—possibly removal from office.

7. Eli Crane & the Preemption Defense ([18:42]):

• Argues that Crow and others couldn't name a specific illegal order, and that the PSA is only happening because Democrats aren't in power.

8. Comic Relief: Ongoing Democrat Follies

• Jasmine Crockett and Stacey Plaskett/Epstein Donor Gaffe ([27:37—29:48]):
  • Discussing Democratic reps confusing donors (Dr. Jeffrey Epstein vs. the infamous Jeffrey Epstein)
  • Carson and Cammack mock the blunder: “You have a Larry Summers here. Yes, Larry Summers is a donor, huh?” – (Cammack, 31:46)
  • Stacey Plaskett’s defense, and claim that “she helps all her constituents.”

9. Interview: Rep. Kat Cammack (FL) Joins the Show ([25:21–36:55])

• Cammack’s Reaction to the PSA:
  • Calls it “garbage video,” a “discredit” to those who serve.
  • Quote (Cammack, 27:02): “They have such a high opinion of themselves...it truly just makes you want to say...Bless their hearts.”
• Motherhood Update: Shares she had a baby, “Augie,” who came to committee with her.
• DC’s Transformation Under National Guard ([33:02–34:30]):
  • Reports drastic improvement in safety and cleanliness in DC since Trump brought in the Guard.
  • Quote (Cammack, 34:15): “There was no criminals, no homelessness, no nothing. I’m like, holy moly. This is amazing... I credit President Trump with that, hands down.”
• On Protestors and Street Chaos ([34:41–36:10]):
  • Expresses frustration at lingering anti-Trump protestors and tent encampments.
  • “Just messy and it’s gross and it’s all awful...I think people are sick and tired of it.”
  • Asserts that most Americans are shifting right because “people are done” with political performativity.
• Sense of Optimism:
  • Both Cammack and Carson anticipate a patriotic “renaissance” tied to America’s upcoming 250th anniversary.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Rob Carson [03:03]: “They identified themselves openly and as conspirators. That’s what they did. That’s how stupid they are.”
• Stephen Miller [06:39]: “Democrat lawmakers saying that you have not only the right but the duty and the obligation to defy orders of the Commander in Chief.”
• Kat Cammack [27:02]: “They have such a high opinion of themselves...it truly just makes you want to say...Bless their hearts.”
• Todd Blanche [13:20]: “I felt like I was watching a propaganda video by one of our enemies trying to recruit the military to become spies.”
• Rob Carson [34:15]: “Union Station was clean. Beautiful. There was no criminals, no homelessness, no nothing. I credit President Trump with that, hands down.”

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Structure & Flow of Main Segments (Timestamps)

• [01:56–03:20] PSA is Played & Immediate Reaction
• [04:47–05:06] Animal House Parody & Satire
• [06:08–07:21] “Insurrection” and Legal Duty Debate
• [09:52–11:57] Jason Crow’s Defense on Cable News
• [13:20–15:08] Todd Blanche, Deputy AG: Legal Perspective
• [18:42–19:15] Eli Crane: No Evidence of Unlawful Orders
• [25:21–36:55] Kat Cammack Extended Interview: From Motherhood to DC Politics

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Tone & Style

The episode is high-energy, opinion-heavy, and laced with Rob Carson’s trademark irreverence, parody, and right-wing populist bluster. Guests, including Rep. Cammack, join in with a mixture of Southern charm, mockery, and policy critique, while the show interweaves humor and pop-culture comparisons (Animal House, music parodies) and passionate assertions of patriotism.

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Summary Takeaways

• Republican voices on the show are unified in their interpretation: the PSA from six Democratic lawmakers is unprecedented, reckless, and tantamount to public insurrection.
• Legal/Pundit consensus: Even if the video is vague or lacking specifics, they see it as a dangerous escalation, worthy of investigation and possible removal from office for those involved.
• Rep. Kat Cammack brings firsthand Congressional perspective, reporting improved public safety in DC under National Guard deployment and mocking the professional/class credentialing of her Democratic counterparts.
• Broader through-line: Distrust and disdain for Democratic leadership, celebration of Trump’s leadership and “patriotic” resurgence, and continuous comic relief and wordplay.

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This summary covers all central themes and conversations from the episode, excluding advertisement, intros, and outros, and follows the language and intent of the speakers.

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Jason Crow]

Senator Alyssa Slotkin, Sen. Kelly, Representative Chris.

[Kat Cammack]

D', Aluzio, Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander, Representative Chrissy Houlihan.

[Jason Crow]

Congressman Jason Crow.

[Rob Carson]

I was a captain in the United.

[Jason Crow]

States Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy.

[Stephen Miller]

Former paratrooper and Army Ranger, former intelligence.

[Caroline Levitt]

Officer, former Air Force.

[Stephen Miller]

We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community.

[Jason Crow]

Who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

[Rob Carson]

We know you are under enormous stress.

[Todd Blanche]

And pressure right now.

[Caroline Levitt]

Americans trust their military.

[Rob Carson]

Actually, they're really loving things. Under Donald Trump as the president and Pete Hegseth as the, the secretary of war, they really like it. That's why, you see, there are so many people signing up for the military.

[Jason Crow]

But that trust is at risk.

[Stephen Miller]

This administration is pitting our uniform Military.

[Jason Crow]

And intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

[Rob Carson]

No, that's not true. Not. It's not true at all. That's a giant lie. Like us, you all swore an oath.

[Kat Cammack]

To protect and defend this Constitution.

[Jason Crow]

Right now the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, no. The threats to the Constitution happened when Joe Biden was the president of. They weaponized the DOJ and the deep state against Donald Trump and half of the American people.

[Stephen Miller]

Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

[Kat Cammack]

You can refuse illegal orders.

[Stephen Miller]

You must refuse illegal orders.

[Rob Carson]

No one has to carry out orders.

[Caroline Levitt]

That violate the law or our Constitution.

[Jason Crow]

We know this is hard and that.

[Stephen Miller]

It'S a difficult time to be a public servant.

[Rob Carson]

But whether you're serving in the CIA, the army or Navy, the Air Force.

[Stephen Miller]

Your vigilance is critical and know that.

[Todd Blanche]

We have your back.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, we have your back. Your back. Honestly, it doesn't mean D word for Richard. You, you say that you should sacrifice your career by disobeying orders. You didn't. You gave no specific specificity about those orders. You just. And this is what this is. This was a ham handed and stupid attempted insurrection. This is really. They identified themselves first and foremost. They identified themselves openly and as conspirators. That's what they did. That's how stupid they are. What they did is. And they're hoping, they're fishing. They're hoping this no Kings protest, all of this nonsense is hoping against hope that the American people somehow will rise up against Donald Trump and take him out of office. They wanted to have him evacuate by a helicopter during the no Kings protest. Didn't work, did it? You know why? Because it's fake. It's fraudulent. It's. You know what it reminded me of? Because I said yesterday on the show, I think is the only person on the show who said nobody is going to follow these idiots. Nobody is going to go, oh yeah, I want to listen to Stacy. What? I didn't even know who the hell is in there. You know Elizabeth Slotkin? Yeah. I'm going to follow her into battle. It reminded me of this scene from Animal House. Did you say over?

[Stephen Miller]

Nothing is over until we decide it is. Was it over when the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?

[Rob Carson]

Hell no.

[Eli Crane]

German.

[Rob Carson]

Forget it. He's rolling. And it ain't over now, cuz when.

[Stephen Miller]

The going gets tough, a tough get going. Who's with me?

[Rob Carson]

Come on, let's go. Come on. Yeah. Nobody followed him? No, nobody following him. That's, that's what they did yesterday. They, they exposed their flank so we can kick their butts. That's what I like to say. I really do. I like to say that a lot because, you know, it makes a lot of sense. Who do I want to play here? Oh, yeah, and then this Elizabeth, Eliza Slotkin the other day, she literally told veterans, you should get in the fight. I mean, honestly, she's, she's espousing that veterans take up arms. That's what she's trying to say when she was speaking to a group of people the other day. Democrats, if we are going to deal.

[Kat Cammack]

With the onslaught from the White House, need to A, have a plan and B, get a little more alpha energy into our leadership.

[Rob Carson]

What do you know about that?

[Kat Cammack]

Alpha energy.

[Rob Carson]

And our veterans understand what this is. You don't know anything about alpha energy, for God's sake. Here's Stephen Miller. I think it's time. I think it's Miller time. Miller time talking about this insurrection.

[Stephen Miller]

It is insurrection. Plainly, directly, without question. And when you have one of the lawmakers on that video being unable to state in, as you say, lengthy cross examination nomination.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Stephen Miller]

A single so called illegal order, it just proves the point. It's a general call for rebellion from the CIA and the armed services of the United States.

[Rob Carson]

It is, it is a. Generally conspiracies exist in the background. They brought it into the open by.

[Stephen Miller]

Democrat lawmakers saying that you have not only the right but the duty and the obligation to defy orders of the Commander in chief. That those who carry weapons in America's name should defy their chain of command and engage in open acts of insurrection. That the CIA, the Clandestine Service, which isn't even legally authorized to operate in the United States, should engage in again, acts of rebellion and insurrection.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah. What is next? Fort Sumter is next. Victor Davis Hanson mentioned that. I shared it on the air a couple weeks ago. Fort Sumter is next. That's what the Democrats are pointing at. And guess what? The last time Democrats pulled this crap, it didn't end well for Democrats.

[Stephen Miller]

These lawmakers should honestly resign in disgrace and never return to public office again for even daring to think, let alone to say these words and to say them proudly. But it shows what a dangerous moment we're in we have.

[Rob Carson]

Can you imagine if six Republicans did this when Joe Biden putting for brains Mr. Poopypants was the President, what the hell would have happened? The world would have been upside down. Republicans calling for a civil war in.

[Stephen Miller]

The Democratic Party nurse the flames of violence and insurrection against the federal government for the last 10 months. When you see this continuous campaign of violence against ICE officers and Border patrol agents, when you see Democrats.

[Rob Carson]

These are all related to a de facto civil war with plausible deniability.

[Stephen Miller]

Politicians and Democrat sanctuary governors side with the rioters, side with the assaulters over federal law enforcement. And that spills even into juries and grand juries. When you see Democrat jurors engage in nullification to let off violent attackers who are engaging in physical violence, that's a war against us. Physical assault against federal officers. This is a dangerous moment. You have a political party, an organization, the Democrat Party, and their message is that any action, no matter how unlawful, no matter how dangerous, no matter how much it threatens constitutional order, is justified if it keeps Democrat policies in effect at any cost.

[Rob Carson]

They don't know what they're doing. They don't recognize the enormity of what could happen to them because they're dealing with the most patriotic, well armed, intellectually and physically people in the history of the world. And they're not joining your side. This is one of these idiots. Jason Crow being grilled by Martha McCollum. Listen to him whip out his CR as a military member. Most of the time veterans, they don't make a big deal out of it. They don't make a big deal. I wear a hat that say what boat they were on or you know, what, what campaign they were on. And we always get service. But they don't do this. He's whipping out his badge only when he needs to because he needs to see ya because he knows he stepped in it big time, that he wants.

[Todd Blanche]

To prevent war, that he wants to extract us from situations where we're putting. We've said from the beginning that we won't have any boots on the ground bombing Iran.

[Jason Crow]

So I think bombing the Houthis, bombing boats in the Caribbean.

[Rob Carson]

This President Barack Obama bombed more targets than any president in history without approval from Congress.

[Todd Blanche]

We aided a mission by Israel in Iran. Did you have a problem with taking out Iranian nuclear facilities?

[Jason Crow]

We've seen more conflict and more use in the military in the first 11 months of this.

[Rob Carson]

No, you're absolutely full of crap. You've seen more peace, you've seen fewer.

[Jason Crow]

Boots on the ground administration that we have in any administration. What needs to happen is they need to come to Congress and we needed to debate this. And for him to say there's no new war.

[Rob Carson]

He's trying to cover his butt because he knows in. He's in deep.

[Jason Crow]

That's exactly the problem. Because Only Congress can declare a war. Only Congress, according to our Constitution, has the authority to send our men to war. Power.

[Rob Carson]

He's going to whip out his service.

[Todd Blanche]

We know how it works.

[Rob Carson]

When's he going to do it?

[Jason Crow]

Apparently, you don't, because you're saying that's not true or exists or it's not a problem. The United States Congress is the one.

[Todd Blanche]

That has to make what your issue is. And so for members, prominent members of the United States Congress, to tell young men and women of the military that they should not abide by illegal orders and to leave it so vague and to talk about comments that have been made in the past and what they might lead to, I think could potentially be very confusing for young men and women who have committed to service, which you honorably did, and I commend you for the sacrifice that you made. Let me just show you this. This is.

[Jason Crow]

Senator, I'm going to respond to that.

[Todd Blanche]

Go ahead.

[Jason Crow]

Military service is tough.

[Rob Carson]

Here we go.

[Jason Crow]

It's really tough. We send our men and women into very difficult, very sometimes. What does that have to do with anything?

[Rob Carson]

I know that.

[Jason Crow]

I've been in those situations.

[Rob Carson]

Really.

[Jason Crow]

That's why moral clarity. That's why reminding people about what obligations are, that's why abiding by the law and providing guidance and training them in advance is important. You can never wait until there's a problem to train people and prepare them for that.

[Rob Carson]

Now he is. He knows he's in deep doo doo. They really see when you play with fire, there's a possibility you can light a fuse. And you're getting real close to lighting a fuse. I've got more with this idiot. Also, some thoughts from Todd Blanche. He's the Deputy AG of the United States with his comments. That is coming up. And this is the Rob Carson Show.

[Todd Blanche]

Poor little Democrats.

[Rob Carson]

Are you guys okay today that I came in to check on you? Every time Trump does something good, you guys spazz out. Would you guys shut up and let him work?

[Unidentified Legal/Political Analyst]

I hope you found it alarming. And so did I. And so did hopefully every American. You had members of Congress, members of the Senate, encouraging members of our military and members of our intelligence department, community. Community. To go and defy orders. And by the way, there is nothing illegal about what we are doing. There is nothing illegal about what President Trump is doing every single day. To the contrary, he's doing exactly what he said he would do when he won a year ago. And this is abhorrent conduct. I felt like I was watching a propaganda video by one of Our enemies trying to recruit the military to become spies. When you see what these men and women were saying about this administration, about this president, and you ask whether what they, what they did is a crime, I mean, you tell me what it is. You tell me what it is.

[Rob Carson]

I mean, it is fomenting a civil war is what it is. That's Todd Blanche. He's Deputy AG for the United States of America. These six Congress people who suggested that the military and CIA disobey orders, they really stepped in it. They. They exposed their flanks so we can kick their butts. And now they're scrambling because they know they're in deep doo doo. Donald Trump is calling for them. Truth, seditious behavior punishable by death. It is. This is really bad and dangerous to our country. Their words cannot be allowed to stand. It is a continued acceleration of the nonsense that we've been through the last decade, all of the violence. And then the Democrats act like the violence is only coming not only coming from the left, it's coming from the right, too. No. Bullcrap. Bullcrap. You have been doing this for a decade. You have left bodies in the wake. You have left billions of dollars in damage in the wake. The last 10 months, you behaved like you burned Tesla dealerships that said that Elon Musk was a Nazi, for God sake. You are attacking ICE agents for kicking illegals the hell out of the country because they shouldn't be here. And you would have the same thing happen to you if you went to Mexico or any other country and you moved in and you demanded I get hotel and you demanded that you get SNAP benefits and you demanded you get whatever their equivalent of a Social Security card is. They'd say gtfo. Deal with it. Deal with it. Because we're not changing. It's not going to change. And honestly, if you want to light this fuse, you don't want to see the explosion that's going to happen. Here's some more of this Crow guy in Congress, Russell Crow. Is it Jim Crow? Not sure. Anyway, talking to Martha McCollum, and here he is whipping out his military service to kind of shield himself.

[Todd Blanche]

If you're not talking about actual policy, you're not talking about things that are members of our service, members who we revere and respect are actually being asked to do so. So when you see this video on.

[Jason Crow]

Exactly.

[Todd Blanche]

All over the place. When you see this video on social media, I think a lot of people scratch their heads and they say, what? What exactly are they talking about? Are they talking about what do you.

[Rob Carson]

Want to do not allowing a fight.

[Todd Blanche]

Let'S fight on boats to make it to the United States carrying drugs.

[Rob Carson]

Is the.

[Todd Blanche]

I mean, is that what you're talking about?

[Jason Crow]

Martha, here's a novel idea. How about we actually prevent things from happening before they become a problem?

[Rob Carson]

Oh, we are actually. Donald Trump is getting is a peacemaker.

[Todd Blanche]

I think that's what they're trying to do.

[Jason Crow]

What you're know what you're saying. What you're saying is we have to wait until there's a problem to respond to that problem. No, I'm not right as a military officer, what I think is here we go.

[Rob Carson]

He's whipping out his important is we.

[Jason Crow]

Train people, we give them information, we prepare people for challenges coming down the pike. That is what I did as a commander in the military. That's what I'm doing now. As we are standing by our troops, we are reminding them of their obligation.

[Todd Blanche]

From the commander in chief.

[Rob Carson]

He's flashing his bag, he's filibustering and he's trying to cover his butt.

[Todd Blanche]

Asking our military to carry out. Are you objecting to this is very, very vague. And it was so vague in this video. Nobody. I don't think people could figure out what you guys were all talking about.

[Jason Crow]

Honestly, Martha, Donald Trump has made a series of very disturbing comments and suggestions that would violate US law.

[Rob Carson]

What about Joe Biden and 10,000 troops being kicked out of the military for not taking a stupid vaccine that didn't work? Yeah, honestly. He's trying to cover. His buddy knows that he is in deep doo doo and he needs to be. They need to be punished. They need to be punished. Somehow I'm not, maybe not down with killing them, you know, executing them and all that, but certainly by you're done with Congress. Here's more from Tod Blanchet, the deputy AG of the Country.

[Unidentified Legal/Political Analyst]

Well, the investigation would. Would absolutely be under what these, what their intent was in saying this. And the question we've all watched this.

[Rob Carson]

Their intent is removal of Donald Trump from office by force because they've tried every other way for the last decade to get rid of him. They have. They even tried to kill him twice. And I said they for a reason a lot today.

[Unidentified Legal/Political Analyst]

And the question you have to ask yourself is what is their intent? What is the reason that they all went on a video and encouraged young men and women to defy court orders.

[Rob Carson]

Without even Occam's razor? The most obvious answer is the answer.

[Unidentified Legal/Political Analyst]

Giving a hint of what's illegal without even giving any suggestion of what law or what order they're being asked to violate. You cannot do that in this country, especially if you're a leader. And so what does the investigation look like? I think they should be held to account. I think that those congressmen should, should be required to answer questions and to ask, answer questions about why they did what they did. And the American people deserve that and so does President Trump.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Their seditious behavior was performed in the, in the sunlight.

[Unidentified Legal/Political Analyst]

This is a disgusting and inappropriate display of supposed leadership from the Democrat Party. These men and women should not have described themselves as former members of the military or former members of the intelligence community. They should have described themselves as Democrats who lost and Democrats who don't like.

[Rob Carson]

They can't stand it and they will divide the country. They will do anything it takes. They will burn anything. They will wreck anything. They will do anything it takes. Here's Eli Crane, the Congressman, talking about the reaction to that Jack Weed, Jason Crow.

[Eli Crane]

Well, he's getting, he's getting it wrong because like I said, they can't even mention. He came on Fox News earlier today and when asked by Martha MacCallum. Yes, what are you talking about? What unlawful orders? He couldn't say anything that the president has ordered our troops to do that was unlawful. He said it was preemptive. Really, Representative Crow, if it's preemptive, why didn't you make that, why didn't you guys make this video during the last administration? And it reminds me so much of what we just witnessed with Epstein. They didn't care about Epstein at all when they had control of Washington D.C. but now that President Trump is in office, they're banging that Epstein drum.

[Rob Carson]

You know, they did the coup of Donald Trump in, in his first term. They did Russia coll hoax and all of that in the impeachment. That was an attempted coup. And then of course they did all their shenanigans when he decided to run again, including trying to kill him, take him off the ballot, use the, the doj, weaponize the DOJ against him, raid Mar a lago and whatnot. This is the most ham handed attempt at sedition I think I have ever seen. Hoping that the military would listen to the words of six morons and say, okay, let's all get together and overthrow and disobey Donald Trump. That's what they're trying to do. It's, it's really some of the most childish and it's stupid thing you can possibly imagine. It's unintelligent, it is unreasonable and they're in A lot of. They're in a lot of doo doo. They're in a lot of doo doo. And they should be. Kat Kamek in Congress from Florida joins us next. Don't go anywhere. Hey guys, it's Rob Carson for quints.com I've lost some weight, been working out. I'm single again. I'm ready to look good. I've not taken the time to feel good about myself or shop for myself really for a long time. But I chose Quince. There's so many bad brands out there. Quince.com gives you the value and quality, not just cheap stuff that looks lousy doesn't last. I got an amazing blazer from Quince that looks great with dress pants, khakis or jeans. And I know it'll look timeless for years. Go to quince.com newsmax for free shipping on your orders and 365 day returns. Quints also has gifting covered beyond clothing too. You can pick up anything for home, bath, kitchen or travel. Give and get timeless holiday staples that last with quince. Go to quince.com that's Q U I N C E.com Newsmax for free shipping and 365 day returns. That's quince.com Newsmax give and get timeless quality staples that last this season with Quince. That's quince.com newsmax Gary Clark Jr. Thank you very much. Love me some Gary Clark Jr. Crank that up right here. Kind of that blues. Little Stevie Ray Vaughan, little Robert Johnson. I don't know. He's amazing. Amazing, amazing, amazing. We're expecting a call from Kat Kamek. I know she's busy. I haven't had seen much of Kat Kamek lately and I gotta have it. I gotta have some cat Kamek now. So we're waiting on her. This is pretty big. Supreme Court just gave Donald Trump sweeping authority, wartime authority under the 1798 Aliens Enemy Act. That means Trinidad, now officially labeled an invasion force, can be rounded up and deported to El Salvador. And senators won't be able to go down there. Oh, Chris. What's his name? Chris. No, it's not Chris Murphy. Chris Van Hollen. Chris Van Hollen. He can go down there and have a margarita with them, but they're not coming back. Here's Caroline Levitt.

[Caroline Levitt]

This is a massive legal victory, Jesse, A massive victory for law and order and for our constitutional republic and the sovereignty of the United States of America. We called on the Supreme Court to reign in these activist judges like Judge Boasberg, who was completely out of line in trying to say that the president didn't have the executive authority to deport foreign terrorists off of our soil. We have always maintained the position at the White House that the president was well within his constitutional authority to do so. And this decision proves that President Trump in our administration have always been right from the beginning. He will continue to utilize the Alien Enemies act to remove foreign terrorists. I know trend members vicious gang members from American communities. And because of this ruling, the United States of America is a much safer place. Our team will get to work tomorrow.

[Rob Carson]

Get to work tomorrow. Right there, baby. They're going to Carolina, by the way. Carolina is where they are right now and they've arrested a whole bunch of people there. 130 arrests, including Trin Nicaragua gang members. 130 arrests, 44 criminal illegal aliens whose criminal records include aggravated assault, assault with a dangerous weapon, assault on a police officer, battery, driving under the influence, hit and runs. And the Democrats don't like this because they're evil and on the wrong side of history. Here's Jim Gossett on the wrong car. And Joe.

[Jim Gossett]

Nothing would be finer but ice in Carolina. Boston League.

[Rob Carson]

I know, it's so funny.

[Jim Gossett]

Charlotte's Web is work made Democrats berserk. They love them Legos.

[Rob Carson]

It's not just a book anymore.

[Jim Gossett]

Hundreds days arrested. Democrats are mad.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Jim Gossett]

Lefties hand protested these losers. They are so sad. You lose a take it from a trumpet if you're a border jumper should be Brighton.

[Rob Carson]

Hasta la vista.

[Jim Gossett]

It's so good to see Charlotte security It has been titan dooby dooby doo. The city is much safer cause ice is around. Solution has finally been found. Nothing would be finer than ice in Carolina. They should stay there.

[Rob Carson]

That's pretty cool.

[Jim Gossett]

I should stay in Carolina.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. It's not gonna stop anytime soon. By the way, two people actually were charged with driving trying to kill agents in their cars in North Carolina because, you know, the left has whipped people into a lather. There was one driver that was stopped and moved the vehicle toward the exit of the parking lot after trying to run over border patrol agents. His agent went to confront the driver. The car rammed the law enforcement vehicle, fled the scene. And by the way, the person involved was a transgender perpetrator. It's kind of weird. I am told the one and only Kat Kamek joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Kat Kamek, welcome to the show.

[Kat Cammack]

It's good to be with you, my friend. How are you doing, girl?

[Rob Carson]

I have not seen enough of you lately. Where you been?

[Kat Cammack]

I had a Baby.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, geez. All right, whatever. Oh, you're gonna use the I had a baby excuse? Whatever.

[Kat Cammack]

Listen, I have baby Augie with me in committee today, girl. Literally asleep on mom while I went through a whole line of questioning, and she was with me on the House floor and even pressed the button when we decided we were going to release the Epstein files.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. Your daughter was the deciding, right? Daughter?

[Kat Cammack]

Yep.

[Unidentified Legal/Political Analyst]

Little girl.

[Rob Carson]

Is this your first, by the way? It's my first Congratula. Isn't it cool?

[Kat Cammack]

Oh, my gosh. Everyone has babies and oodles of them.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, girl, it is. It is the best thing in the world. I love being a dad so much. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Well, welcome to the show, and congratulations. We got a lot of stuff to get to. I want to talk about the. These six members of Congress who basically called for an insurrection. I don't know what the hell they were thinking. Normally, when you're. When you're trying to do an insurrection, you keep it undercover. They thought it would be a good idea to make it public. I mean, who the hell does that, Cat? You go on and you expect the military is just going to listen to you idiots and say, okay, I'm going to defy my orders.

[Eli Crane]

Derpy, derpy, derp.

[Rob Carson]

Are you out of your nut?

[Kat Cammack]

I don't even know where to start with these people. They have such a high opinion of themselves. And to put out that garbage video, I just. It truly just makes you want to say. And as a Southerner, I can say it. Wow. Bless their hearts.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Kat Cammack]

My goodness. And of course, they're the first to say, you know, as, you know, former service members, as veterans, you know, they want to throw that out.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Kat Cammack]

And it really. It is such a discredit to the incredible men and women who are actively serving and who have served that video. Just absolutely outrageous. And then the defense of it in the aftermath, Representative Crow tried to defend himself. And it just. The pretzel logic that they employ really is just that.

[Rob Carson]

It was almost. It was almost as dumb as Jasmine Crockett saying that Republicans gave money to Jeffrey Epstein and then finding out There was a Dr. Jeffrey Epstein. And then she goes, well, I didn't say the Jeffrey Epstein.

[Stephen Miller]

Oh, my God.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God.

[Kat Cammack]

The truth does not matter. Facts do not matter. They're optional, right? It is. It is so sad. And honestly, it makes me so, so sad for. For people who. Who have registered as Democrats thinking that they. That, like, this is their representation. These are people who speak on their behalf And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I would be so embarrassed if that was my.

[Rob Carson]

Well, the problem is idiots voted for them, so they put idiots in Congress. And then the other. The trifecta of stupid today was Stacey Plaskett saying of texting Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, yeah, I text all of my constituents whenever I, you know, I'm like, yeah, but you don't text Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, that was almost. Almost as dumb. I.

[Kat Cammack]

Listen. Stacy Plaskett and I, we butted heads and clashed years ago when she decided she was going to go after RFK on a guilty by association charge in our weaponization hearing. And I about lost my mind. And I said, you know what? I find it so rich that the ranking member of the weaponization committee is sitting here lecturing people about guilty by association, and she is the tax fixer for Jeffrey Frickin Epps.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Kat Cammack]

Are you kidding me? And not only that, she took $30,000 from him. She has literally helped him evade different tax bills. And then on top of that, she helped him with tax abatements. Basically a 90% tax cut for his businesses on the island.

[Rob Carson]

But she does that for all of her constituents. What is cat. She does that to all of her constituents.

[Kat Cammack]

Okay, sure. I'll show you some oceanfront property in Arizona.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God. Well, Kat, can you hold on through the. I would love to continue the conversation. You got a few other topics I'd like, if you don't mind.

[Kat Cammack]

Absolutely.

[Rob Carson]

You got to be a perfect time if you want to do a diaper change. Okay. Right now, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Caroline Levitt]

You mentioned Lee Zelda there. He's now a cabinet secretary. He responded and said it was actually Dr. Jeffrey Epstein, who's a doctor that doesn't have any relation to the convicted sex trafficker. Unfortunate for that doctor, but that is who donated to a prior campaign of his. Do you want to crack the record on the people. I never said that it was that Jeffrey Epstein. Just so that people understand, when you make a donation, your picture is not there. And because they decided to spring this on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to think about what could potentially happen, because I knew that they didn't.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God, I got to cut it off. The more you listen to her, the more IQ points you lose. And I don't want to. You know, we regrow them, Kat Kamek. We regrow them after we listen to people like Katie by her Jasmine Crockett. But unfortunately, Democrats don't. So I want to be real careful. You might lower their IQ so much that their breathing stops.

[Kat Cammack]

What we call. What you know about Blue Dog Democrats, though, right?

[Rob Carson]

I know what a Blue Dog Democrat is. I don't know what she is.

[Kat Cammack]

Well, I. Well, she's not a Blue Dog Democrat, but I know that that's a. That used to be a thing in the South.

[Caroline Levitt]

They have.

[Kat Cammack]

They're slowly becoming extinct. But, you know, we used to say that they were Blue Dog Democrats because when you lose oxygen, your gums start turning blue.

[Rob Carson]

You know, she's one of those breeds like the Afghan. They're just stupid, you know? Definitely not an Aussie Shepherd. Not an Aussie shepherd there.

[Kat Cammack]

Honestly, I mean, this is ridiculous. Just listening to her spout off just absolutely asinine comments. I would love to go through her campaign donors and be like, oh, you have a Larry Summers here. Yes, Larry Summers is a donor, huh?

[Todd Blanche]

Let's go.

[Kat Cammack]

Let's go down that path.

[Rob Carson]

Look, you got a Michael Jackson over here. My God. What the hell? Unbelievable. Hey, I want to. Kat Kamek, by the way, joining us, Republican from Florida, new mom. What's your baby's name, by the way?

[Kat Cammack]

Augusta Dare. But we call her Augie.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, I love. You're gonna have about a half a dozen nicknames for her. When I was. When I was, I. I had songs for everything for my kids, and here's one you can steal when you change it. When you. When you change the diaper. Poop, There it is. Poop. There it is. It's a good one. It's a keeper.

[Kat Cammack]

That's pretty dang funny.

[Caroline Levitt]

That's pretty funny.

[Rob Carson]

It's a good one. Let me ask you this, because I just moved to the D.C. area and hope to have you over here. We'll. We'll figure out some sort of daycare. So we know we got. We got a big. But I live in Old Town Alexandria. Got a studio over here now, and I moved here right before Donald Trump decided to bring in the National Guard and clean up D.C. obviously. I mean, I was a little overwhelmed. I knew they wanted to welcome me. I had no idea that they would do this, but it has been good for other people, too. Kat, how's DC Changed? How has it changed? I mean, come on, you've seen it. You were here before and after. It's got to be crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kat Cammack]

Well, one, I want to thank you for not moving to Maryland because Maryland drivers are the absolute worst.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, God.

[Kat Cammack]

So don't even get me started on that front. But, yes, we're glad to have you in the capital region, and I look forward to actually doing this in person. But let me tell you how the National Guard has changed Capitol Hill. Before, you couldn't walk down the street without either witnessing a carjacking, stepping on a needle, having. Having someone smoking a joint blow it in your face.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Kat Cammack]

Potentially getting mugged. I mean, it was. It was something out of Gotham, right? It was a Batman type movie setup. I myself book two weeks before the National Guard rolled in, I witnessed a carjacking at 11am the middle of the day. Navy Yard carjacking. And then after I gave birth, two weeks, two weeks old, Augie, myself, my husband Matt were all on the train because I couldn't fly with her at two weeks. I'm training our way up to D.C. from Florida. And it was night and day difference. Union Station was clean.

[Rob Carson]

It's spotless. It's spotless. Beautiful.

[Kat Cammack]

There was no criminals, no homelessness, no nothing. I'm like, holy moly. This is amazing. Walk down the street, you feel like you actually are going to be okay walking a few blocks in Washington. And I credit President Trump with that, hands down.

[Rob Carson]

Is there anything you could do about those idiots in that tent outside of Union Station with the sign that says F Trump? What the hell do they have any business doing there? Because honestly, it is ridiculous. Why are they allowed to be there? That's the worst thing in the world. You got a clean station. You got rid of all the homeless bull crap. Adams Morgan is clean again. You know, all of these areas are clean again. And. And you got these jack weeds in that stupid tent. And I confronted him. I said, oh, you guys are a bunch of morons when I was there, but you got to do something with those people. They should not be able to either.

[Kat Cammack]

Gosh, you're such a wallflower. I just. I don't know what we're doing to get you out of your shell.

[Rob Carson]

This is why I like you so much.

[Kat Cammack]

Oh, my gosh. No, it's crazy because I have been. I have been over on that side of town, Senate side. For those. For those that are listening, that's the Senate side. Been on that side, and you just have to shake your head. I've seen workers out there cleaning the monument. It's all they post up around this monument they're cleaning. There's taxpayer dollars continually being funneled to clean up their mess. And it's always the people who, you know, claim to want to save the planet. They're destroying their own little tent cities. You know, and they're just messy and it's gross and it's all awful. That just again, I think people are sick and tired of it. And that is why the American people continue to shift to the right. They are sick of the bullcrap. They are sick of the nonsense. They. They're sick of being yelled at by everyone who claims to have a cause, but it's just whatever cause is paying them.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Kat Cammack]

It's just people are done. They're sick and tired of it. They're ready to live their lives without these wackos always interfering.

[Rob Carson]

But you can feel it. You can feel the patriotic and the. And the spiritual rebirth of America and it's spreading around the world, isn't it, Kat? It is. I'm absolutely optimistic. I'm absolutely optimistic. The reason why I'm here, after living away from here for 10 years, lived in Kansas City, came back and I can feel it. I had to be here for this history, Kat. I had to. So I really appreciate you joining me today. I know you're in busy and all of that and I wish you the very best dealing with the idiots over there. But I think great things. I'm looking forward to the 250th anniversary. It's going to be amazing next year.

[Kat Cammack]

Absolutely. A renaissance is on our front door. We're going to make it happen.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. All right. Remember poop. There it is. It's. Trust me, it's a good one. It's a keeper. All right.

[Kat Cammack]

I'll be sure to use that for my.

[Rob Carson]

All right. Thanks, Kat Kamek. I appreciate you. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. AC DC when von Scott was singing and nothing against Brian Johnson, but he didn't have a thing on Bon Scott Bonnie. Such a unique and amazing one of a kind voice and I never get tired of hearing it. Never. Did you see in. Was it Australia or maybe New Zealand? They got like 2000 bagpipe players to play the, the, the bagpipe part of Long Way to Long Way to the Top. If you want to rock and roll. It was pretty cool. Rocking of the bagpipes. Yeah. Next. Now we're going to talk about a little bit more about Charlotte and the raids and the temper tantrum. They got students skipping school. And you remember what I said when there were protests when Donald Trump was the first to president. I said get your asses to your classes. You have no. You are not in a position to demand anything. And they better start cracking down on this the adults better get in charge. Cybercrime spikes during the holidays, especially around Black Friday and Cyber Monday. Falling victim to cyber crime is the last thing anyone needs. And honestly, it's easy to do because they try to get you every way. They tell you you're late on a bill. They tell you you need to update your credit card information. They tell you, oh my God, look at this deal. Can you believe this deal? You better take advantage of this deal. And before you know it, you've given them the credit card number, the expiration date, that little code on the back, and you're screwed. Or they steal your identity. Right now, Webroot Total protection is giving you 75% off. But you got to go to webroot.com Carson webroot.com Carson I think it's an amazing product. I really do. With my exclusive discount Webroot Total protection. Less than 50 bucks a year. That's all in one device. Identity Privacy Backup protection. 50 bucks? Are you nuts? Real time antivirus protection against threats like malware, ransomware, phishing, Phishing, firewall and network monitor. Family protection includes Toddlers, Students, Seniors, VPN for 5 or 10 devices. Select your connection from 80 locations in more than 65 countries. Customers love it. 90% retention rate. Once you get it, you never want to let it go. Unlike my wife. That's what she. Okay, never mind. 24. Seven US based customer support for identity theft restoration. It's webroot total protection 75% off. Do this right now. Go, go, go. Right there. Get on your browser. Webroot.com Carson C E R O S N webroot.com Carson 75%. 75% off. It's pretty and it's a great service. It's kind of funny. No, I can't get in this story. I've got a really funny story about a woman who decided she'd throw a message in a bottle into the ocean. And apparently somebody named Karen got it. Oh, actually just a Karen got it and sent back a rude response. We'll get to that. And then also what they're not telling you about the Trump assassination. I have my theory and guess what? I know it. Right? Let's take a record. Come back last hour. The Rob Carson shows right ahead. Don't go anywhere. The holidays mean more travel, more shopping, more time online and more personal info in more places that could expose you more to identity theft. But LifeLock monitors millions of data points per second. If your identity is stolen, our US based restoration specialists will fix it, guaranteed your money back. Don't face drained accounts, fraudulent loans or financial losses alone. Get more holiday fun and less holiday worry with LifeLock. Save up to 40% your first year. Visit LifeLock.com podcast terms apply.