The Rob Carson Show
Episode: Rep. Kat Cammack Discusses the “Democrat Insurrection PSA”
Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guest: Rep. Kat Cammack (FL), Stephen Miller, Eli Crane, Caroline Levitt, Todd Blanche (Deputy AG), Legal/Political Analyst
Theme: Reaction and analysis of a controversial video statement from six Democrat lawmakers calling on military and intelligence community members to disobey ‘illegal orders’—and larger discussions around patriotism, law, DC politics, and media follies.
Episode Overview
This episode centers on a viral PSA in which six Democrat lawmakers (some with military/CIA credentials) directly call on US troops and intelligence personnel to “refuse illegal orders”—a message the right-wing media, including Rob Carson and guests, interpret as a brazen, public incitement to insurrection against President Trump's administration. The conversation veers across related topics: the wisdom (or lack thereof) behind the video, the historic reversal of party roles, the practical changes in DC under National Guard presence, ongoing media follies involving Democratic politicians, and a sharp, sometimes humorous, critique of the current political climate.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The "Democrat Insurrection PSA"—Play-by-Play & Immediate Reaction
- [01:56–03:20] Rob Carson plays the PSA, with lawmakers identifying themselves and delivering a message to “refuse illegal orders” for the sake of the Constitution.
- Carson’s Immediate Commentary:
- Mocks the earnest tone (“You didn’t give any specificity about those orders.”)
- Interprets the video as a public call for rebellion—“A ham-handed and stupid attempted insurrection.”
- Quote (Rob Carson, 03:03): “They identified themselves openly and as conspirators. That’s how stupid they are.”
2. Parody & Pop Culture Comparison
- [04:47] Carson connects the lawmakers’ plea to the classic “Animal House” scene—mocking the idea that anyone would actually rally to their call.
- Quote (Rob Carson, 05:06): “Yeah. Nobody followed him? No, nobody following him. That’s what they did yesterday. They exposed their flank so we can kick their butts.”
3. Analysis & Outrage: “Open Conspiracy”
- Stephen Miller’s Take ([06:08–07:21]):
- Calls the PSA “insurrection... plainly, directly, without question.”
- Claims it’s a “general call for rebellion from the CIA and armed services.”
- Quote (Stephen Miller, 06:39): “Democrat lawmakers saying that you have not only the right but the duty and obligation to defy orders of the Commander in Chief.”
- Carson & Miller on Hypothetical Reversal ([07:40]):
- What if six Republicans had done this under a Democratic president? Predicts “the world would have been upside down.”
4. Contextualizing as Part of a ‘Civil War’
- Miller and Carson ([07:54–09:01]) argue this is one more escalation in a “de facto civil war,” connecting it to prior violence and jury nullification, and accuse Democrats of excusing any action to retain power.
- Quote (Stephen Miller, 08:15): “Physical assault against federal officers. This is a dangerous moment... Their message is that any action... is justified if it keeps Democrat policies in effect at any cost.”
5. PSA Backlash in the News: Jason Crow Grilled ([09:52–11:57])
- Carson and guests dissect Rep. Jason Crow’s cable news appearance, accusing him of hiding behind military credentials instead of providing evidence of actual illegal orders from President Trump.
- Quote (Carson, 10:37): “He’s trying to cover his butt because he knows... he’s in deep.”
6. Legal Ramifications and Seditious Behavior
- Todd Blanche (Deputy AG, [13:20]): Equates the PSA to “fomenting civil war,” reiterates there’s nothing illegal about what the Trump admin is doing, and likens the PSA to “a propaganda video by one of our enemies.”
- Quote (Blanche, 13:20): “You had members of Congress, members of the Senate, encouraging members of our military... to defy orders. I felt like I was watching a propaganda video by one of our enemies.”
- Carson ([13:51]): “Donald Trump is calling for them [the lawmakers]...seditious behavior punishable by death. It is. This is really bad and dangerous to our country.”
- Repeated Theme: Lawmakers should face consequences—possibly removal from office.
7. Eli Crane & the Preemption Defense ([18:42]):
- Argues that Crow and others couldn't name a specific illegal order, and that the PSA is only happening because Democrats aren't in power.
8. Comic Relief: Ongoing Democrat Follies
- Jasmine Crockett and Stacey Plaskett/Epstein Donor Gaffe ([27:37—29:48]):
- Discussing Democratic reps confusing donors (Dr. Jeffrey Epstein vs. the infamous Jeffrey Epstein)
- Carson and Cammack mock the blunder: “You have a Larry Summers here. Yes, Larry Summers is a donor, huh?” – (Cammack, 31:46)
- Stacey Plaskett’s defense, and claim that “she helps all her constituents.”
9. Interview: Rep. Kat Cammack (FL) Joins the Show ([25:21–36:55])
- Cammack’s Reaction to the PSA:
- Calls it “garbage video,” a “discredit” to those who serve.
- Quote (Cammack, 27:02): “They have such a high opinion of themselves...it truly just makes you want to say...Bless their hearts.”
- Motherhood Update: Shares she had a baby, “Augie,” who came to committee with her.
- DC’s Transformation Under National Guard ([33:02–34:30]):
- Reports drastic improvement in safety and cleanliness in DC since Trump brought in the Guard.
- Quote (Cammack, 34:15): “There was no criminals, no homelessness, no nothing. I’m like, holy moly. This is amazing... I credit President Trump with that, hands down.”
- On Protestors and Street Chaos ([34:41–36:10]):
- Expresses frustration at lingering anti-Trump protestors and tent encampments.
- “Just messy and it’s gross and it’s all awful...I think people are sick and tired of it.”
- Asserts that most Americans are shifting right because “people are done” with political performativity.
- Sense of Optimism:
- Both Cammack and Carson anticipate a patriotic “renaissance” tied to America’s upcoming 250th anniversary.
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
- Rob Carson [03:03]: “They identified themselves openly and as conspirators. That’s what they did. That’s how stupid they are.”
- Stephen Miller [06:39]: “Democrat lawmakers saying that you have not only the right but the duty and the obligation to defy orders of the Commander in Chief.”
- Kat Cammack [27:02]: “They have such a high opinion of themselves...it truly just makes you want to say...Bless their hearts.”
- Todd Blanche [13:20]: “I felt like I was watching a propaganda video by one of our enemies trying to recruit the military to become spies.”
- Rob Carson [34:15]: “Union Station was clean. Beautiful. There was no criminals, no homelessness, no nothing. I credit President Trump with that, hands down.”
Structure & Flow of Main Segments (Timestamps)
- [01:56–03:20] PSA is Played & Immediate Reaction
- [04:47–05:06] Animal House Parody & Satire
- [06:08–07:21] “Insurrection” and Legal Duty Debate
- [09:52–11:57] Jason Crow’s Defense on Cable News
- [13:20–15:08] Todd Blanche, Deputy AG: Legal Perspective
- [18:42–19:15] Eli Crane: No Evidence of Unlawful Orders
- [25:21–36:55] Kat Cammack Extended Interview: From Motherhood to DC Politics
Tone & Style
The episode is high-energy, opinion-heavy, and laced with Rob Carson’s trademark irreverence, parody, and right-wing populist bluster. Guests, including Rep. Cammack, join in with a mixture of Southern charm, mockery, and policy critique, while the show interweaves humor and pop-culture comparisons (Animal House, music parodies) and passionate assertions of patriotism.
Summary Takeaways
- Republican voices on the show are unified in their interpretation: the PSA from six Democratic lawmakers is unprecedented, reckless, and tantamount to public insurrection.
- Legal/Pundit consensus: Even if the video is vague or lacking specifics, they see it as a dangerous escalation, worthy of investigation and possible removal from office for those involved.
- Rep. Kat Cammack brings firsthand Congressional perspective, reporting improved public safety in DC under National Guard deployment and mocking the professional/class credentialing of her Democratic counterparts.
- Broader through-line: Distrust and disdain for Democratic leadership, celebration of Trump’s leadership and “patriotic” resurgence, and continuous comic relief and wordplay.
This summary covers all central themes and conversations from the episode, excluding advertisement, intros, and outros, and follows the language and intent of the speakers.