Rob Carson and Guests Say ‘No More Whispering’

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show: “No More Whispering”

Date: September 11, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guests: Paul Chapa (Friends in Service of Heroes), Brianna Lyman (The Federalist)
Theme: Responding to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, culture war rhetoric, and the need for unfiltered conservative expression.

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Episode Overview

This special 9/11 episode centers on the aftermath of the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Host Rob Carson, alongside his longtime friend and veteran advocate Paul Chapa, and Gen Z commentator Brianna Lyman, examine the political climate that they believe gave rise to this violence, the impact of rhetoric labeling conservatives as extremists, and the resolve now growing within the conservative movement. The episode is both a reflection on mourning and a rallying cry for unapologetic activism. Stories of veteran charity work, generational patriotism, and personal memories of Charlie Kirk tie the themes together.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Political Climate and Assassination of Charlie Kirk

• Rhetoric and Violence:
  • Rob Carson and Brianna Lyman argue that the left’s prolonged, inflammatory rhetoric against conservatives (“fascist”, “white supremacist”) has led to real-world violence.
  • Rob Carson: “Words make a difference. And nine years of words like that has culminated in countless acts of violence…” (03:36)
• Irreparable Divide:
  • Rob suggests the assassination marks an unmistakable “turning point”: “Now we realize there is no negotiating with the left… their violence has to end… this is the turning point.” (04:26)
• Refusal to Accept Condolences:
  • Carson explicitly rejects public condolences from Democratic leaders as hollow, accusing them of stoking the cultural divide (35:53, 36:56).

2. Honor and Legacy of Charlie Kirk

• Kirk’s Impact:
  • Chapa and Lyman praise Charlie Kirk’s ability to make young conservatives feel seen and empowered. Lyman emphasizes Kirk’s role in shifting young voters and fostering a sense of belonging on campuses:
    • Brianna Lyman: “Charlie is the person who finally said to conservative college students … I hear you guys, and I’m going to give you a platform and a voice.” (21:40)
  • Kirk is repeatedly compared to historic figures—most notably Abraham Lincoln—for his unifying, optimistic approach:
    • “Charlie Kirk embodied the qualities of a statesman. He never, ever was pessimistic… Charlie Kirk would probably say … those better angels can prevail now.” (24:16)
• Personal Testimonies:
  • Stories of Kirk’s direct and personal generosity (e.g., Benny Johnson's family being taken in after a house fire) emerge as central to his enduring legacy (27:51).

3. The Conservative Movement: From Defense to Offensive

• “No More Whispering”:
  • Both Carson and Chapa voice exhaustion at being compelled to soften or hide their beliefs:
    • Rob Carson: “I’m done with the destruction. I’m done of whispering. I’m tired of whispering, Paul. You know what it’s like to whisper as a conservative right now.” (06:17)
  • The killing of Kirk is described as sparking a new, “righteous army” and the refusal to accept olive branches from the left.
    • Carson: “We are now a righteous army, Paul.” (16:14)
• Demand for Action:
  • Lyman criticizes past Republican responses as weak, calling for decisive cultural and legal responses:
    • “Ten years have gone by and we’ve gotten strongly worded statements and as a result, Charlie Kirk lost his life.” (31:39)
  • Specific calls are made to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, cut off funding, and clamp down on what they see as left-wing fomented violence (32:24, 32:57).

4. Tribute to Veterans & “Friends in Service of Heroes”

• Paul Chapa’s Mission:
  • Chapa recounts how 9/11 inspired him to found a veteran support charity—providing service dogs, specialized wheelchairs, and direct aid:
    • “Our Christmas with the troops is coming up… we go fishing, we go find them, we do life with these people…” (10:42)
  • Moving stories of helping suicidal or struggling veterans highlight the ongoing personal toll and inspiration for his work (07:33–09:46).
• Generational Patriotism:
  • Carson and Chapa discuss younger generations stepping up after 9/11 and the lessons learned from WWII’s “Greatest Generation”, with vignettes about aging veterans and a call to continue serving as non-veterans (17:04–18:27).

5. Gen Z, Campus Movements, and Optimism

• New Generation Rising:
  • Both Carson and Lyman view Kirk’s assassination as motivation for Gen Z conservatives to rise:
    • Paul Chapa: “This is next generation that’s going to take this country to a place that you and I can only imagine…” (12:28–12:35)
• Contrast with Left-Wing Activism:
  • The episode contrasts peaceful, large-scale conservative campus rallies with left-wing campus protests, arguing that debate, faith, and facts—not violence—are the movement’s weapons (29:30–30:06, 30:06–30:50).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This always ends the same way… All you’ve done is set [the movement] on fire. All you’ve done is lit the fuse. It’s going to be bigger than they ever imagined, because now we’re done.”
  — Rob Carson (04:26)

• “His mission, his ideals, they’ll never be extinguished. As a matter of fact, this is going to create a movement of extraordinary proportion…”
  — Paul Chapa (04:56)

• “I’m done. I’m done of whispering. I’m tired of whispering, Paul.”
  — Rob Carson (06:17)

• “Charlie changed that because he showed if you give young people a chance and … foster their ideology, they can be something. He was everything. And because of him, everyone else gets to be a little bit of something.”
  — Brianna Lyman (26:09)

• “Our better angels did not prevail yesterday. But Charlie Kirk would probably say, that doesn’t mean that they still cannot prevail. We have to do the work now, so Charlie didn’t die in vain…”
  — Brianna Lyman (24:16)

• “This was a professional hit.”
  — Unnamed Caller/Guest (13:12–14:02)

• “If you want to get on board and you want to join this righteous and godly and patriotic movement, then you can be a part of it. If you do not want to... to hell with you.”
  — Rob Carson (05:16)

• “…kick a pit bull so many times, you’re going to get your ass bit.”
  — Rob Carson (34:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Left-wing rhetoric and violence connection: 01:00–03:36
• Charlie Kirk assassination—discussion and emotional response: 03:27–05:16
• ‘Turning Point’ motif and refusal to negotiate: 04:26–06:17
• Paul Chapa on motivation and support for veterans: 06:22–12:35
• Details on the assassination—guest analysis of the sniper shot: 13:12–14:02
• Calls for stronger conservative response/action: 16:14, 31:39–32:57
• Tribute to Charlie Kirk’s campus movement and legacy: 21:40–27:51
• Brianna Lyman on Gen Z engagement and future direction: 12:28, 24:16, 29:30–30:50, 31:39
• Explicit rejection of left-wing/official condolences: 35:53–36:56

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Flow & Tone

The episode is emotionally charged, blending mourning with defiance and resolve. The language is uncompromising, often combative, and intensely personal—a mix of personal anecdotes, direct appeals to faith and patriotism, and stinging rebukes of perceived progressive hostility. Guests and callers add an authentic, grassroots touch, contrasting establishment politics with ground-level activism and personal transformation.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Rob Carson Show acts both as a eulogy for Charlie Kirk and a manifesto for a renewed conservative movement focused on bold, unapologetic activism against what Carson and guests depict as a culture of left-wing violence and ideological suppression. Through stories of service, generational hope, and policy demands, the show draws a line: no more whispering, no more retreat—only forward.

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For more about Friends in Service of Heroes:
https://friendsinserviceofheroes.org (13:04)

Brianna Lyman’s work:
Twitter: @BriannaLyman2
Instagram: @BriannaLyman

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Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

Hold it now.

[Paul Chapa]

You are about to.

[Rob Carson]

Hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world Wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show. He said he wanted generals like Adolf.

[Brianna Lyman]

Hitler had President Biden believes that Donald Trump is a fascist.

[Caller/Guest]

I mean, yes, this sounds like Nazi rhetoric.

[Rob Carson]

It sounds like fascist rhetoric. It sounds like white supremacist rhetoric.

[Paul Chapa]

Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do.

[Rob Carson]

And Biden has to get in there very hard and go rapist, racist, fascist.

[Paul Chapa]

Half of Trump's supporters into what I.

[Rob Carson]

Call the basket of deplorables.

[Paul Chapa]

People who supported Donald Trump, someone she calls a wannabe dictator and a petty tyrant.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, the vice president's rhetoric is the rhetoric that a president of the United States give.

[Caller/Guest]

The only garbage I see floating out there is his support.

[Brianna Lyman]

Terrifying to all Americans. And he needs to be shocked.

[Rob Carson]

Words make a difference. And nine years of words like that has culminated in countless acts of violence committed against conservatives, whether it be the day after Donald Trump's first inauguration or the summer of 2020 when Donald Trump had to go to the bunker in the White House as the left tried to climb the fence and murder him and burn down St. John's Historical Church right across from the white. Nobody has paid for that. And it's only gotten worse as Donald Trump has been in office around seven months. There have been countless marches in America. There have been Tesla dealerships burnt. There have been Jewish students attacked on campus. And then yesterday, the political assassination of a giant in the conservative movement, with Gen Z in particular. If the left attempts to hand me an olive branch, people like Jamie Raskin and whatnot, I am in no mood to accept it. And I will smack it out of their hands because I know it doesn't mean anything to them. This is not a turning point. This is the turning point. Joining us on the Newsmax hotline is a friend of mine who has been A friend of mine for a dozen years, well, about 10, actually. His name is Paul Chapa. What happened after 911 helped him, inspired him to create a charity, which is called Friends in Service of Heroes. It's called fish. And I learned of this organization and I met this man a decade ago, and I've known him ever since. And we've been talking pretty much on every 9, 11 ever since. Paul Chapa, welcome to the show, sir. How are you today?

[Paul Chapa]

Doing great, Rob. Thank you for having me on today.

[Rob Carson]

What did. How did you react yesterday when. When you heard that Charlie Kirk had been shot? And then ultimately we received the bad news that he had succumbed to his injuries.

[Paul Chapa]

Oh, Rob. I think like every good American that ever had the opportunity to listen to Charlie, I was just. I was stunned. I was in shock. My heart just sank. I just. I couldn't believe that this incredible young man that was sharing the Lord's word, that was sharing what America is all about, you know, talking to young people, inspiring young people and old people alike, just like that, because of his. Because of his rhetoric, because of his conversation, someone, some horrible evil person out there, did such a heinous thing. It was just. I still don't know what to think.

[Rob Carson]

This always ends the same way. You end up with a movement that you thought you could stop, you thought you could stop by killing Charlie Kirk. All you've done is set it on fire. All you've done is lit the fuse. It's going to be bigger than they ever imagined, because now we're done. Now we're done. Now we realize there is no negotiating with the left now. Their violence has to end. Paul, I do want to segue. Go ahead.

[Paul Chapa]

It's a turning point. This is the turning point.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Paul Chapa]

This is because Charlie's legacy goes well beyond. I mean, you killed the man. Yes, you're correct. His mission, his ideals, they'll never be extinguished. As a matter of fact, this is going to create a movement of extraordinary proportion that the left will never fully understand. What have we done?

[Rob Carson]

I tell you what, brother. And it is a godly movement. And this, the election of Donald Trump, all of the tribulation that he went through, that we went through with five political indictments, an attempt to take him off the ballot, attempt to murder him. He rose his hand, Paul, after being shot and said, fight, fight, fight. That's the first time in world history that a leader had been nearly assassinated. He raised his hands to the skies, to God and said, fight, fight, fight. This is. The left should be feeling like those who cast aspersions on Noah as he was building the ark. Because they will not be on this ark, they will not be invited on this ark, and they can wither in oblivion and evil as far as I'm concerned, Doug. And it's going to happen that way. If you want to get on board and you want to join this righteous and godly and patriotic movement, then you can be a part of it. If you do not want to, then honestly, to hell with you. I'm sorry. That's just the way I feel today, Paul. That's just the way I feel. I'm done. I'm done, Paul. I'm done with the destruction. I'm done of whispering. I'm tired of whispering, Paul. You know what it's like to whisper as a conservative right now.

[Paul Chapa]

But brother, I gotta tell you my prayer every morning. And I know over the years I've shared this with you, Lord, please don't let me be so full of myself that I miss seeing you today. And I gotta believe that that was Charlie's prayer as well. Because you and I both know a person like Charlie, a person like President Trump and yourself and others, when we're out there in the public square, we know that we're a target. Because what we're trying to do is be God with skin on. Share the good news, share the fact that we live on the great, in the greatest country on the planet. And for those on the left, for those individuals, those people out there, that they're filled with hate. We are, we're supposed to be salt and light. And regardless of all the stuff that's happened, we need to continue loving one another and let them know, you know, like with the troops. 9, 11. Rob, I was up at 6:00 o' clock this morning taking calls from my, my guys, you know, the guys that have served our country. As you know, I didn't wear the uniform, but, you know, just letting them know it's like it's going to be okay. Don't stay in that trench. You need to get out of that hole. Keep moving forward. We as you need to keep moving forward, buddy.

[Rob Carson]

You, you created this organization called Friends in Service of Heroes. And, and I have heard many of your stories with veterans calling you for help. We have one named Aaron, who's a young man. I'm sorry.

[Paul Chapa]

Yep, I remember. That was my.

[Rob Carson]

I remember meeting Aaron. I remember meeting him and him so nervous and so broken when I first met him. And now he's got a job and now he's got someone. He's going to share his life with.

[Paul Chapa]

Correct.

[Rob Carson]

And that's one of the stories that sticks with. Because I've watched Aaron grow over the last decade. And you. You did this, brother.

[Paul Chapa]

We did it because, you know, we can't do it alone. You know, this fish, it's all about doing it as a family. You know, you don't go to battle by yourself. You know, I mean, it started out with just me and my wife and this little raft, and the boat keeps getting bigger and bigger, and we just tell people, grab a nor. Help us go fishing. Help us move this boat a little further. Let's go find someone to serve. Because, Rob, as you know, our troops will never ask for help. So we got to go, brother.

[Rob Carson]

And, you know, you know, 9 11. 911 was. It was Gen X and, And. And millennials and millennials dropped out of college to join the service after 9 11. There was that same hue and cry that people fel after Pearl harbor with a new generation, and they served brilliantly, and they were let down. And, and you, you know, a lot of them who come back with. With ptsd, for instance, and, And. And you've been there when you arrived at someone's house and they had the gun out and they were going to end it, and you said, no, no.

[Paul Chapa]

Don'T do it tomorrow. Get out of that hole. Get off the couch. Get out of the house. Let's keep moving. Let's keep moving. That next step. That next step. If you stay on the beach, you're gonna get. So keep moving. And I thank God every day that, you know, we've never lost anybody, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, brother.

[Paul Chapa]

Thank you, Jesus. We've never lost anyone. It's because it's not about us. It's about them. And when they hear our hearts, when they know that this has nothing to do with money or, you know, stuff, we're there for them because we love them and we appreciate them. Do you hear me? I hear you, Paul.

[Rob Carson]

You. You created this. This Friends in Service of Heroes. Now, for those who don't know, Paul gives service dogs to military veterans. A lot of the times for PTSD. He also gives them these glorious $20,000 motorized wheelchairs so those who are qu. Paraplegic can go off road, go fishing, go hunting, enjoy the outdoors, feel more like a full person. And it is life changing for so many people.

[Paul Chapa]

It really is. It really is. I know you've been to a lot of our events. Our Christmas with the troops is coming up. You know, I mean, these young people, our veterans, our military families, will never ask for help. And so we go fishing, we go find them, we do life with these people and find out. I mean we had an incident a while back. I may have shared this with you. A while back, Rob, Vietnam veteran that he was taking care of his daughter, an adult woman in her late 40s and he would pick her up out of bed to take her to the bathroom and put her in the chair in the Recliner. Almost an 80 year old man doing this because no one would help her. She didn't serve our country. He did. We showed up with a big smile on our face and said, hey, we're here. We've got something for you. I don't need anything. Yes you do. This is the Hoyer lift. What's that? With the push of a button you'll be able to pick up your daughter, take her roller into the restroom, put her on a chair. And by the way, there's a scooter for you because you talked about how you like going out but she can't go out with you so you stay home, you put her in the scooter, you guys go walking around the neighborhood. Wow. This is what it looks like. This is what love looks like. So for those of us that didn't wear the uniform, this is how we serve. And you know, with less than 1% of our population serving our country, we got to continue doing this. And what Charlie has created here with this turning point I honestly believe Rob, but we're going to see or a calling. These young people have been woken. They have been awakened.

[Rob Carson]

Oh brother. Paul, this.

[Paul Chapa]

Is next generation that's going to take this country to a place that you and I can only imagine, never imagine. Maybe.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. Paul, can you, can you hold up? Can you, can you hold. Trust me, I know Paul, sometimes he doesn't know, you know, he talks a lot. I'll just tell you. Paul, can you hold on? I want to talk to you briefly on the other side a little bit more charity and also about the greatest generation who are, who are passing before our eyes. I know you have some stories I want to share that Friends in service of heroes. Paul, what's the website? Real quick before we go to break.

[Paul Chapa]

Friendsinserviceofheroes.org alright, let's take a break and come back.

[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Caller/Guest]

Well, like I said, when you take a look at the altitude or the elevation of the way Charlie Kirk was seated, he had a tent over him. And so when you back up, let's say 450ft, 500ft, 600ft. That shot becomes more and more difficult because you're looking down at that target. That is why I believe it wasn't, quote, unquote, a headshot. It was taken at the upper torso because the line of sight only exposed Charles, Charlie Kurt's upper torso area or the neck area. I think if the tent wasn't concealing Charlie Kirk's head, quite frankly, you would have seen this as a headshot. There is a degree of expertise. There is no doubt in my mind this person is to some extent a professional. This was a professional hit.

[Rob Carson]

Now they have a person of interest, a young male, I guess. And I posted the picture on my Twitter feed at Rob Carson show. I don't think it's going to be. He's going to be long for freedom, I'll just put it that way. My friend Paul Chapa, who created a glorious charity called Friends and Service of Heroes post 911 to help not only soldiers with PTSD, but other, other, you know, sometimes they need financial help, sometimes they need track wheelchairs, sometimes they need a service animal and whatnot. And Paul, welcome back to the show. You know, a lot of snipers. You know, a lot of snipers. This yesterday, just real quick. I mean, obviously it looked like one shot. The person who did it knew what they were doing and it was well planned.

[Paul Chapa]

I completely agree. I do not believe this is just some random kid or someone that disliked Charlie. This certainly to me looked like it was a professional, you know, that knew exactly what he was doing.

[Rob Carson]

Rob, you know, there's a lot of money on universities. There's a lot of. There's a lot of people like George Soros who, who have, who doctored elections, have funded protests, violent protests, including the summer of 2020. It would not surprise me at all if there was a coordinated effort by someone like that to kill Charlie Kirk. Because in Charlie Kirk, they saw their domination of a generation with regard to brainwashing them in schools, ending, ending. He was the greatest danger to the next generation straying from Marxist orthodoxy.

[Paul Chapa]

Absolutely, Rob. And you know, if we don't find this killer and if we don't do something about those. And you know, you know that there are others out there, Rob, you and I and others that are out there sharing the good news and trying to do what's right. And, you know, in the public eye, we're all targets. You know that. I've had death threats. You know, my friend, you might know, you know, Chase Spears here in Kansas City, you know, he's got a great Podcast finding your spine. He just received death threats yesterday because of what he's uncovered.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Paul Chapa]

So you know, this, this is something that if we don't put an end to it now. Yes, it's going to continue.

[Rob Carson]

No, it's not going to, Paul. We're going to end it. I know we're going to end it. And I got to tell you, you know, I had friends like my friend Paul, Sean Farish, who is this young man who just came out of nowhere to be a major podcaster. He impressed, you know, impersonated Trump. That's how I got to know him. And I, I introduced him and I helped him with comedy writing or whatever and there was swatting of all sorts of conservative hosts and all of this and we're done. We are now a righteous army. We are now a righteous army, Paul. Now, Paul. Friends in service of heroes, please Google it and help them out. One of the things I do want to mention, because my father was a World War II veteran, you are living the final years of The World War II generations lives on this planet and you have shared the final days and years of some of these soldiers lives. What has that been like for you, brother?

[Paul Chapa]

My gosh, you talk about just so rewarding, you know, to hear these stories of these incredible men and women, you know, the greatest generation. You know, I know a while back I introduced you to Staff Sergeant Jerry Ingram. Here's the guy that at age 15 and a half he joined the Marine Corps. At 16 and a half was a tank commander on Iwo jima. Company C, 4th Tank Battalion, 4th Marine Division, landed on Iwo Jima. Of all the tanks that landed, Jerry's tank name was Jungle Jam and another one were the only ones that came back. And to hear Jerry tell his story and to be a part of Jerry's life and Jerry was one of the guys that fish gave him a mobility chair, right? We gave him a mobility chair and he would take that chair about, he would ride it about three blocks to the corner of Metcalf and 135th in Oakland Park, Kansas and would wave at people. And one day I called them, what are you doing? You know, we talked a little bit and he says, where are you? I'm at Outlaw Cigar, having a cigar and rob, you know the area. Five minutes later, who rolls in but 96 year old Jerry Ingram.

[Rob Carson]

I love it. I love it brother, I love it. Well, Paul, listen, I got, I gotta run. I will tell you here in old town Alexandria, there are three cigar shops on King Street, a block from here. And conservatism is alive and well here. Brother Paul, thank you for being here on this commemorative day, on this tragic day as well. Paul Chapa, the wonderful charity that he started. He started. This guy has given up everything. He doesn't make any money off of this thing, but he has impacted so many lives. Called Friends in Service of Heroes. Paul, when you're in town, you gotta look me up, brother. I know you will.

[Paul Chapa]

You got it, buddy. All right, thank you and God bless America.

[Rob Carson]

All right, brother. Yeah. Friends and Service of Heroes. I wanted you to get to know him because, you know, a lot of times you have big charities on and everything. This is a guy who worked in the food service. He does a magazine about refrigerated food items, right? That's what he does. And then he was inspired by 911 and he created this glorious cherry. And I've seen men get their track wheelchairs. A Vietnam veteran who lost one and a half legs and one arm to get a track wheelchair 45 years after his service and the look on his face. We're a 21 year old young man who broke his neck in basic training and as a quadriplegic to get it and know that he can go hunt and he could go into the wilderness again. It is amazing. It's Friends in Service of Heroes. Friends in Service of heroes on this 911 anniversary. Let's take a break. The great Brianna Lyman, Gen Z correspondent for the Federalist, joins us next. Don't go anywhere.

[Brianna Lyman]

To all the Gen zers watching this convention on Tick Tock right now, I have a message just for you. You don't have to stay poor. You don't have to accept being worse off than your parents. You don't have to feel aimless and unhappy. You don't have to support leaders who lied to you and took advantage of you for your vote. America's future is a series of choices. Our current state of slow motion national decline is a choice.

[Rob Carson]

Yesterday was not a turning point. It was the turning point. It really was. Yesterday was the turning point. Joining us on the Newsmax Highline, Brianna Lyman, elections correspondent, the Federalist, Newsmax contributor, Gen Z, influencer pundit, awesome person. Brianna, welcome to the show.

[Brianna Lyman]

Hey Rob, how's it going?

[Rob Carson]

You know, last night I did a post on social media and I just turned my camera on and I just said, they killed Charlie Kirk. They killed Charlie Kirk. And I couldn't believe I was saying it. I couldn't believe that I was saying that Charlie Kirk had been assassinated. How has the last 18 or so hours been for you with the passing of Charlie Kirk?

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah, I mean, Rob, I'm still struggling for words right now. You know, Charlie is someone that my generation looked up to, because Charlie is the person who finally said to conservative college students who had long been outcasts, they never had help from the Republican Party. They never were acknowledged by big conservatives. And here comes Charlie, you know, 12 years ago, and says, I hear you guys, and I'm going to give you a platform and a voice. And for the first time, you had millions of college campus conservatives who didn't feel like an outcast. They felt for the first time like they belonged and like there was someone on their team. And Charlie channeled that energy into the biggest student movement we have ever seen. And without him, we would not have seen the swing in young voters this past election. We would not have seen Donald Trump back in the White House. President Trump knows that. He said it himself. Everyone knows that. And so to lose a titan of the movement who literally was just getting started, like he's already done, and yet he was only 31. He had at least another 40 good years out of him before he probably was like, oh, maybe I'll retire. I couldn't imagine what else he would have accomplished.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I. I watched this mission creep over the years for as long as I've been in broadcasting. The left, for instance, started with, you know, white privilege, then moved on to white supremacy, then moved on to whites are Nazis and whites are this and that, and it culminated in this crime wave against people, you know, white. I'll just say white people. This death of this glorious young woman in North Carolina. And then you've had this mission creep on campus where Ann Coulter used to be chased off campus, where they would say that conservative words are violence, and they would chase conservatives. Hell, even. Even. I'm trying to remember her name, the swimmer who was.

[Brianna Lyman]

Riley Gaines.

[Rob Carson]

What? I'm sorry, Brianna. No, who? Brian.

[Brianna Lyman]

Riley Gaines.

[Rob Carson]

Riley Gaines. Riley Gaines. I apologize. I got a lot on my mind today. Riley Gaines having to. Having to hide. Jewish students having to hide. And for the first time ever, ever. He. Charlie Kirk. And this has just been the last couple of years. He has assembled every. Even bigger crowds, every single time, thousands of people on nothing like this ever, ever, ever. We saw a campus protest in the 60s over the Vietnam War, but nothing like this, where people came together to debate and to listen, to exchange ideas, to share their faith. It is remarkable what he was able to accomplish. Brianna.

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah. And I want to bring up President Lincoln, right now. President Lincoln was a great statesman, and when he gave his 1861 inaugural address, we were on the brink of civil war. You had several states that had seceded. And Lincoln said to the American people, he said, remember the mystic chords of memory. He was trying to say that despite the massive differences between the north and the south, at the end of the day, we were all Americans. And he prayed that our better angels would prevail. Charlie Kirk set out every single day to ensure not only that our better angels would prevail, but to remind people we were all Americans. That's exactly why he had these tens and said, prove me wrong. He asked people who didn't agree with him to come to the front of the line because he didn't see them as the enemy. He saw them as a fellow American. He disagreed with them. He wanted to change their hearts and minds. He wanted to share the gospel with them if they did not already know it. And he was assassinated for that. Just like Lincoln. Because Charlie Kirk embodied the qualities of a statesman. He never, ever was pessimistic. If you listen to him, he was optimistic. And our better angels did not prevail yesterday. But Charlie Kirk would probably say, that doesn't mean that they still cannot prevail. We have to do the work now. We have to do the work so Charlie didn't die in vain. But those better angels can prevail now.

[Rob Carson]

Brianna Lyman, would you be doing what you're doing now if Charlie Kirk had never come on the scene? Because I know he had a gigantic influence and I know I've never seen anything like people your age, particularly young conservative women who are meteoric. You are experiencing a meteoric rise in influence around the country. I've never seen anything like it. And I think it's amazing. Brielle. But without Charlie Kirk, do you suppose you'd be doing this to this degree?

[Brianna Lyman]

No. Charlie Kirk changed the space. Right. My passion for politics would have been there, but the space for me to put that passion would not have been the same. Charlie carved out a path for young conservatives to be taken seriously and have a voice because he was a young conservative who made sure he was taken seriously and had a voice. Without him, none of us would be getting on these networks. I wouldn't be on the radio with you right now. I'd just be a young conservative. Charlie changed that because he showed if you give young people a chance and you foster their thoughts and their ideology, they can be something. He was everything. And because of him, everyone else gets to be a Little bit of something.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I can't. I don't even know what to say about Charlie Kirk. He changed the trajectory of so many lives. One of the things yesterday, and I don't know if you knew him, Brianna, he know. He knew so many people. Did you. Did you know him?

[Brianna Lyman]

Unfortunately, no.

[Rob Carson]

Okay. But. But he. I remember one of the things that I recognized from Greg Gutfeld to Greg Kelly to, you know, Megan, Megan, Megyn Kelly to. On and on and on. Every one of these people, Benny Johnson, every one of these people had a Charlie Kirk story. A Charlie Kirk story. He called me, he text me. Benny Johnson said, my house burned down. My family needed a place to stay. He put me up. I don't recall ever hearing that about anybody. I don't know about anybody who's had that sort of reach, that sort of impact, that sort of connection, I mean, other than Donald Trump. And I can speak personally because I've interacted with him and he's changed my projectory. But what about him? I mean, what an amazing man. To reach some people not only on a public but also a personal level is remarkable.

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah. I mean, his legacy will extend in so many different ways. And I think one of the reasons why Charlie was so well loved and loved others so much, according to all the testimony we're hearing, is because his faith was so strong. He believed so deeply in the Lord, in the gospel, and that encouraged him to do good and be good, and he was both of those things. And it's easy if you are a good person, to go out and share that goodness with others. So it's not shocking when I keep talking of friends who were friends with him and they share these little stories and anecdotes, and I'm like, you know what? I could see it if a man who goes out and preached this gospel is that good. I couldn't imagine what he's like behind closed doors. And I really do wish I would have found the chance to meet him.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Brianna, can you hold on for the next break? I'd like to talk to you about where we go from here, where this movement goes and where the movement that the left has been going goes after this. Do you have time to stay with us?

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Rob Carson]

All right, Brianna Lyman is with us. We will continue this conversation on the other side of the break. And this is the Rob Carson Show.

[Caller/Guest]

We are seeing on. On the campus of one of the great universities in the country, the most applied to school in the country, one of the most respected institutions around the world, a Scene that looks like a war zone and a combat essentially going on between the police forces of the United. Of the state of California, the chp, and pro Palestinian protesters, some of them students, some of them not students.

[Paul Chapa]

LAPD now scuffling with these protesters, the supporters who have shown up on that staircase. They are now fist to fist with some of these protesters.

[Rob Carson]

That is May of 2024, an election year. While that was happening, Charlie Kirk was bringing together students by the thousands, by the thousands at peaceful rallies on America's campuses and turned back some of that. Brianna Lyman has joined us on the Newsmax hotline. She's a correspondent at the Federalist, also a Newsmax contributor. And Char. Charlie Kirk, what he did was so remarkable compared to the protests of what the left had been doing last year, and really much more impactful than all of the violence that the left has done over the decades.

[Brianna Lyman]

Absolutely. And what Charlie Kirk did is something the left couldn't do because the left did not have a convincing argument. They had to resort to violence and intimidation tactics because they weren't willing to have any real discussion. They believe in thought, orthodoxy. Charlie Kirk is someone who had the facts on his side, so he didn't need to resort to anything but a microphone. That was his weapon. And that's why they killed him, because he was so effective with that weapon, with that microphone, because he spoke of facts and he spoke of faith. When you watch those videos of young students coming up to him, even the most egregious, you know, vile comments are made towards him. He laughs. He literally laughs it off, lets them continue, tries to respond if there's any kind of factual basis he can respond with, and calls up the next guest. It was a very fun environment. You can watch these videos. It's horrible.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, I. This, this monstrous individual who did this, I don't believe he acted alone. I. I believe that there were people in the crowd. I believe that there was. There was a man who. Who said he immediately, as soon as he was shot, started screaming. You know, I have the right to remain silent. All. I think I have a feeling that was a distraction. I. I think that there's a lot of things we're going to learn, but whatever it is, you know, I'm. I'm in between feeling hollow and heart and righteously angry. And I believe this is the moment that we beat back the horde of the left that has run roughshod over this country for decades. The class of 1968 and the younger generations who have burned their way across America. Brianna I absolutely believe that this is the moment. This is the turning point that we've been waiting for. What do you think is next for the country? Beyond alignment.

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah, this is definitely the turning point. Look, the culture that has allowed Charlie Kirk's murder to happen is a culture that was created by the left. They used assassination prep campaigns, smearing their conservative opponents and dehumanizing them and demonizing them. That created a culture of violence. But Republicans have done nothing. When chiefs police was nearly murdered in 2017, we sent out strongly worded statements. Then what? Brett Kavanaugh gets assassination threats, we send out strongly worded statements. Then what? Donald Trump literally gets shot in the ear, Narrowly missed his head blowing off. And what did Republicans do? Strongly worded statements. Ten years have gone by and we've gotten strongly worded statements and as a result, Charlie Kirk lost his life.

[Rob Carson]

What do you think? Go ahead.

[Brianna Lyman]

I think Republicans need to track down. First of all, we have to go after the institutions, the organizations and the outlets that one allow this type of violent rhetoric to fester. We need to be looking into is Antifa involved in this violence? Who's funding Antifa or these other organizations? We to need, we need to do whatever lawful means are available to us to try and change the culture. And then in the culture itself, we need to set the narrative. We need to say it is morally reprehensible to cheer on someone's death, to refer to someone as Nazi or Hitler. I mean that is just changing the culture.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And then we need to. And I know that there are people in the government who listen, Antifa has to be declared a terrorist organization as much as trend. I am absolutely. It has to happen. They have to be declared a terrorist organization so we can go after their funding, we can find the people who will are funding them, we can find the people who are organizing them and we can end this nonsense. That has to happen, Brianna. That has to happen. And I hope and pray it does. Brianna Lyman, thank you for being on my show today. I know we had invited you on to talk about other things, but I am, I feel grateful that today was the day we had you on for a number of reasons.

[Brianna Lyman]

Well, thank you. And I wish we were talking under better circumstances, but our better angels will prevail.

[Rob Carson]

Now, where can everybody find your great work on social media, by the way?

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah, thanks. Twitter is Brianna Lyman to Instagram is Brianna Lyman. Or you can check out my work on the Setter list.

[Rob Carson]

All right, well, God bless you, Brianna and all the best. And we will, we will come Together again on In Better Times when we have a better plan for the future. But I know they've really started a fire here that they're not going to be able to put out.

[Brianna Lyman]

Absolutely, Rob. Keep fighting the good fight.

[Rob Carson]

All right. Thank you, Brianna. Have a glorious day. You know, they say, I mean, they say you, you, you kicked, you kick a pit bull so many times, you're going to get your ass bit. And I'm going to tell you all of these passive aggressive bull crap, you know, extending a hand kind of nonsense that we're hearing from people like Jamie Rasshole. Oh, I said rash hole. You can't say rash hole. Yeah, I can tone down the rhetoric after what happened with, with Charlie Kirk.

[Caller/Guest]

You know, listen, it's a horror.

[Rob Carson]

Listen to this slime ball. He's being passive aggressive. He knows what he's saying is rubbing wound, salt in a wound. He knows it.

[Caller/Guest]

What's going on.

[Rob Carson]

And.

[Caller/Guest]

The gun violence is out of control. And, you know, my heart goes out to Charlie Kirk's family. What a nightmare this whole thing is. And we saw it recently in Minnesota with elected officials being targeted and.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, by a Democrat, by the way. Oh, yeah, and also Lee Harvey Oswald was a Democrat. Did you hear this from TMZ yesterday? Tmz? As Charlie Kirk's death announcement was announced in the background, the newsroom was laughing.

[Caller/Guest]

Janet, go, listen, go, go.

To.

Have somebody look at the.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, they were laughing. And then of course, they came back and said, no, they were watching something else.

[Caller/Guest]

We were live streaming all day during this, this tragedy when something happened in our office as we were reporting the assassination of Charlie Kirk, there were some people in the back room, away from our news desk here, who were watching a car chase and they were laughing.

[Rob Carson]

For those who are attempting to express their condolences, who've called us Nazis and MAGA fascists and white supremacists and all of those names to those who are extending your condolences. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden. They're not accepted. They're meaningless to us. They're meaningless. They are foe. They are fake. You are fake. We do not accept them. You can sit now and wonder what you've ignited. That's what you need to focus on. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. That is a moment of silence at Yankee Stadium and. And he had a moment of silence at Yankee State and the passing of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was assassinated yesterday. Charlie Kirk was murdered yesterday. I still can't believe I'm Saying it. There was a moment of silence at Yankee Stadium, but not in our Congress.

[MTG (Marjorie Taylor Greene)]

Yeah, we, we had convened. We were having an oath of office ceremony for a new member who was just elected in a special election, a Democrat. And we were going to vote in a series of votes on the National Defense Authorization Act. But before that, this was right after the event, we had just convened the House again and I thought it was appropriate to have a moment of prayer.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And the Democrats couldn't stand it. This is why your condolences are not accepted. We know you're lying.

[MTG (Marjorie Taylor Greene)]

What purpose is the gentle lady from Colorado rise?

[Rob Carson]

That's MTG talking. Wanting a moment of silence and the Democrats having a problem with it. Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Chapa]

Let's, let's, let's.

[Rob Carson]

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[Paul Chapa]

The.

[Rob Carson]

Photos and whatnot with you. But it is an acknowledge of the Bible and God and we are in a godly moment. I know it, guys. And listen, I know we're waiting for direct direction from God. It's going to happen. It will fall in place, but it will ultimately result in the end of the radical left in this country. And a day and days of joys and joy and patriotism and prosperity like we've never seen. God bless you. America is founded Charlie Kirk. And until Monday, I'll just say God bless you guys. I love you. Take care.

[Paul Chapa]

This is the.