Rob Carson: Why Charlie Kirk’s Martyrdom Just Changed the World

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Rob Carson: Why Charlie Kirk’s Martyrdom Just Changed the World
Date: September 22, 2025
Host: Rob Carson, Newsmax Podcasts
Notable Guests: Mike Carter (Newsmax), John Solomon (Just the News), audio from Marco Rubio, Victor Davis Hanson

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Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show centers on the recent assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and explores the massive cultural, political, and spiritual impact of his death and ensuing martyrdom. Rob Carson and his guests, broadcasting live in the wake of Kirk’s widely viewed memorial service, reflect on themes of forgiveness, faith, freedom of speech, and the rising spiritual and populist revival in America and beyond. The show is marked by poignant moments, notable guest insights, and candid commentary on the current state of the nation, culture wars, and the legacy of Charlie Kirk.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Charlie Kirk’s Memorial and Its Global Impact

• The Scene in Phoenix: Mike Carter describes the magnitude of the memorial (04:13), with 200,000+ attendees spread across two venues and the streets, turning a football stadium into “a church.”
  • “Yesterday the Trump administration, the Kirk family and America turned a football stadium into a church. And it was unbelievable to be.” – Mike Carter (04:30)
• Unprecedented Scale and Influence: Rob Carson likens Kirk’s memorial to “bigger than Billy Graham’s funeral” (04:49), highlighting the extraordinary reach and influence of Kirk, particularly on young Americans.

2. Forgiveness, Faith, and Public Reaction

• Erica Kirk’s Forgiveness: Carson and Carter discuss Erica Kirk’s public forgiveness of her husband’s assassin during the memorial.
  • “That was one of the most profound moments I've seen in a very long time.” – Rob Carson (02:27)
  • “When Erica said I forgive him yesterday and that crowd applauded, nobody booed, nobody said, hell with him. Nobody did that... Everyone applauded.” – Rob Carson (05:59)
• Contrast With Past Reactions: The hosts draw a distinction between this event and the divisive, violent aftermaths of previous tragedies, suggesting Kirk’s death inspired a spiritual awakening and calls for unity rather than vengeance (06:33).
  • “There's been a coming back to faith. There's been a spiritual revival...” – Mike Carter (06:33)

3. Martyrdom and Spiritual Revival

• Carson and Carter’s Reflections: The episode emphasizes that Kirk’s death has accelerated a spiritual revival and galvanized people across America and globally.
  • “Charlie's death, his martyrdom has made it go into light speed. Did you feel that yesterday?” – Rob Carson (08:20)
  • “I've been feeling it ever since September 10th...” – Mike Carter (09:12)
  • Carter references Pete Hegseth: “This is not a political war. It's not even a cultural war. It's a spiritual war.” (09:12)
• Open Faith in the Public Square: Notable that major figures, including politicians of both parties, now openly discuss Christianity and faith post-Kirk’s death, seeing it not as exclusive but as an embrace of good (10:20).

4. Impact on Populism, Politics, and Culture

• Wider Political Shifts: Discussion of how Kirk’s influence has transcended party lines and galvanized public unity around core values: faith, family, and country (11:23).
  • The symbolic handshake between Elon Musk and Donald Trump at the memorial is seen as a sign of broader unity and a “coming back to faith” (11:23).
  • Carson declares: “If you want to be on the Ilhan Omar's or AOC side, you're going to be left in the dustbin of history.” (12:27)
• Global Movement: Rubio, Victor Davis Hanson, and others are cited on the global significance of Kirk’s martyrdom and the coming reckoning with “evil” institutions (16:47).
  • Hanson: “It's almost as if there were fuel and the death of Charlie Kirk ignited it.” (16:47)
  • Observations of similar movements and unrest in Great Britain, France, the Netherlands (17:27).

5. Charlie Kirk’s Life and Expectations of Danger

• Erica Kirk’s Interview: Carson shares poignant details from a New York Times piece, recounting Kirk’s anticipation of possible violence, his devotion, and the scene after his death (17:49).
• Historical Parallels: Carson and Solomon draw parallels to other martyred figures (Martin Luther King Jr.), suggesting that attempts to silence transformative voices often “backfire” and amplify their message (23:57).
  • “The bullet may have killed Charlie, but it didn't silence his movement. If anything, you know, amplified his movement...” – John Solomon (23:06)

6. Freedom of Speech and Disinformation

• Censorship as a Threat: John Solomon describes the broader context, referencing the rise of “disinformation” narratives used to suppress dissenting views, likening current struggles to those in authoritarian regimes (27:52).
  • “We knew we were in a fight for something bigger than just a story... it was really the core liberty of freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of expression.” – John Solomon (28:34)
• Kirk’s Legacy: Kirk’s college tours are cited as crucial to challenging left-wing attempts to silence conservative and religious speech (21:42–23:06).

7. Autism Announcement & Medical News

• Upcoming Major Announcement: A brief segment (30:34) teases an upcoming medical announcement about autism’s causes, links to Tylenol, vaccines, and folic acid, with impacts on millions of families.
  • “I have an autistic son... There’s some really promising research looking at what happens when you restore folic acid to an autistic child...” – John Solomon (30:34)

8. Convention of States and Government Reform

• Article V Convention: Discussion of growing momentum among state legislatures for a Convention of States, with Trump’s endorsement signifying a major inflection point (33:30).
  • “If the president were to get behind this...it could rapidly speed up.” – John Solomon (33:30)

9. Critique of Democratic Leaders and Institutions

• Harsh Criticisms: Carson delivers repeated, unsparing criticism of Democratic politicians and what he characterizes as corrupt government actions and the erosion of moral and spiritual principles (14:15, 35:54).
  • “This is going to wipe out the Democrat Party, and it should. They're doing it on their own. They haven't learned anything. They're not repenting. Unbelievable.” – Rob Carson (35:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Erica Kirk's Forgiveness at the Funeral
  • “Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do. That man, that young man, I forgive him.” – Erica Kirk (01:20)
• Rob Carson on Kirk’s Influence
  • “I've never cried so much for somebody I didn't know. And I have never prayed so much.” (02:27)
• Mike Carter on the Spiritual Revival
  • “Over the last week and a half... there's been a coming back to faith. There's been a spiritual revival...” (06:33)
• Marco Rubio’s Reflections on Faith
  • “...he [Charlie] was not done. I'll just tell you that. An amazing interview...” – (13:03)
• Victor Davis Hanson on the Global Impact
  • “Something is happening in the United States, I think worldwide too. It's almost as if there were fuel and the death of Charlie Kirk ignited it.” (16:47)
• John Solomon on Martyrdom’s Consequences
  • “Charlie was fighting for...conservative voices and honest news could get out there... The bullet may have killed Charlie, but it didn't silence his movement.” (21:42, 23:06)
• Rob Carson’s Closing Reflection
  • “This is a baptism by fire that this country has needed for decades.” (35:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Erica Kirk at Funeral: 01:20–02:27
• Massive Memorial in Phoenix: 04:13–05:19
• Erica Kirk Forgiveness Reaction: 05:59
• Spiritual Revival & Faith Discussions: 06:33–10:20
• Public Unity & Notable Guests: 11:23–12:27
• Marco Rubio’s Christian Message: 13:03–14:15
• Global Movement Analysis (Victor Davis Hanson): 16:47–17:49
• New York Times Interview Details (Erica Kirk): 17:49–21:08
• John Solomon on the Power of Free Speech: 21:42–23:06
• Martyrdom Parallels (MLK): 23:57
• Freedom of Speech, Censorship, and Disinformation: 27:52–29:20
• Upcoming Autism Announcement: 30:34–32:32
• Convention of States Momentum: 33:30–34:29
• Carson’s Closing Spiritual Reflections and Critics: 35:54–End

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Tone & Style

The episode is sincere, passionate, and at times confrontational, blending emotional moments and religious themes with humor, sharp political critique, and robust advocacy for spiritual and constitutional revival. Carson balances personal anecdotes, news highlights, commentary, and notable guest interviews, often speaking candidly and directly to his audience.

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This summary captures the emotional resonance, major arguments, and transformative sense of urgency that define this episode of The Rob Carson Show, providing listeners with a thorough understanding of its content and meaning, even if they haven’t heard the original recording.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

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[Erica Kirk]

My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. That young man, that young man on the cross, our savior said, father, forgive them, for they not know what they do. That man, that young man, I forgive him.

[Rob Carson]

Can you imagine, can you imagine the kind of strength it took to say something like that at your husband's funeral? That was one of the most profound moments I've seen in a very long time. Welcome to the show. Please come inside. I noticed some people were talking on the. The live chat on Rumble is Rob's gonna make us cry today. I don't want to make you cry today. You. You might cry today. That's all right. I did a lot of crying the last two weeks. I've never cried so much for somebody I didn't know. And I have never prayed so much. I got to tell you, even my mother's passing and I. And I mean this because my mother was ready to go. She said when I took communion with her in the hospital room and. And we were closing and she said, God, please let me go. And I went, okay. Well, okay. With Charlie Kirk, he was not ready. He may have been ready to go. He was. Wasn't done. I'll just tell you that. An amazing interview with the New York Times by Erica Kirk. I'll share that as the show progresses. But we've got a lot of things we want to get to and I have thoughts on all of it. Also, your, your calls are welcome at 800-922-6680. But that moment when she forgave him was that's what Christians do. They don't go on CNN and say terrible things about Charlie Kirk like Democrats have. It's amazing what is exposed about your character in times like these. And the Democrat Party have shown they are not down with Christianity, they are not down with humanity. And honestly, I have no time for them anymore. Mike Carter was at the memorial service yesterday in Phoenix, did a stellar job. There were a couple times you almost couldn't hear him because there was so much happening in that stadium. 200,000 people, all two venues in Phoenix. Mike Carter from Newsmax on the Newsmax highlight. How are you doing, brother?

[Mike Carter]

Hey, good to be with you. I'm still in Phoenix. We're actually right across the street from State Farm Stadium. I'm taking a look at it right now. They still have the giant posters on the side of the stadium for Charlie Kirk. You know, this is a stadium, Rob.

[John Solomon]

That has hosted Super Bowls.

[Mike Carter]

I'm a Patriots fan. Whenever I think of State Farm Stadium, I think of that famous Seattle Seahawks Patriots game winning interception in the end zone. But yesterday, the Trump administration, the Kirk family and America turned a football stadium into a church. And it was unbelievable to be.

[Rob Carson]

I'll tell you what, Mike, I got to tell you, I was watching. I watched, I watched all day. I didn't watch any football yesterday until late last night when everything was done. But it was just, I've never, Mike, I've never seen anything this big. Billy Graham's funeral was not this big. Yeah.

[Mike Carter]

You know, Rob, I was thinking yesterday morning we had an early start. We had to line up at 5:30am I mean, there was already tens of thousands of people at six o' clock in the morning waiting to get in. And they didn't open the doors until 8 o'.

[John Solomon]

Clock.

[Mike Carter]

They filled the stadium, 70,000 people there. They filled the arena next door, 19,000 people there. And there were still tens of thousands of people on the streets of Glendale. They were expecting maybe 100,000 people to attend Glendale, to be in Glendale. Yesterday they had over 200,000 people from around the country come to town. Charlie Kirk's influence has resonated in a way that few other political figures. I mean, no one in my life, even President Trump, I think, would admit that Kirk's influence over post his Death has been something that has changed culture in a way that very few times in American history we have ever seen.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, it's beyond America, Mike. I mean, this is going around the world. This is going around the entire world. My God, I have never felt anything like this. I've never seen anything like this. But I want to ask you, Mike, and you're a journalist, and you've got to kind of, you know, you got to kind of soldier through this and react unemotionally. But when Eric said I forgive him yesterday and that crowd applauded, nobody booed, nobody said, hell with him. Nobody did that. Nobody did that. Everyone applauded. When she said, I forgot forgive him. I got to tell you, I've never seen anything like it, Mike.

[Mike Carter]

Well, you know, I mean, therein lies the difference right now in American life between what you've seen over the last several years with folks in the radical left. You think of the wake of the George Floyd killing, the way people reacted, burning down stores, looting stores, taking over city blocks for months. And over the last week and a half, what's happened in the United States. And as you mentioned around the world, there's been a coming back to faith. There's been a spiritual revival, and that's the word that we kept hearing yesterday, revival folks who maybe had lost touch with their sense of spirituality. Christians who, you know, maybe they go to mass on Christmas and on Easter. And I'll be, I'll be honest with you, Rob. I'm guilty of that. I was raised. But yesterday, if you were in that stadium or you watched on tv, that performance, and it was, you had everything, it was a funeral, yes, but it was also a source of inspiration for millions of people around the world. Here you have a man who devoted his life to Jesus Christ and biblical teachings. And I thought what was really interesting and what Erica Kirk said yesterday, not only did she forgive her husband's assassin, she also said that her husband, what he did for a living, was trying to reach out to those disaffected young men, young men exactly like the man that took her husband's life. That was his mission in life. And as Kirk, Erica Kirk mentioned, she's the new CEO of Turning Point usa. Now, that mission will go on, and it has only increased tenfold in the last week and a half since his murder.

[Rob Carson]

I gotta tell you, I've never, you know, I had predicted with Donald Trump's election, and I'm, you know, I'm a Catholic, too. I raised in the Jesuit tradition, you can believe in science and astronomy and God in the same. And there is for every action, an equal and opposite reaction. And the action was evil in our government, evil surrounding the world, and the reaction was us. And I said that this was going to spread. This is going to spread not only across this country, it was going to be a baptism by fire of this government. The only way we could do another 250 years is to gut this, of the evil that was in. And I got to tell you, I'm not. I'm not evangelical, okay? I don't proselytize, I don't Bible bang. But there's something happening, Mike and Charlie Kirk's death, his martyrdom has made it go into light speed. Did you feel that yesterday? You just. You as a Christian, did you feel that yesterday?

[Mike Carter]

I've been feeling it ever since September 10th, ever since we got word. I was on X and I saw the horrendous video of Kirk's assassination, Rob and I thought Secretary of War Pete Hegseth yesterday really said it best. He said, this is not a political war. It's not even a cultural war. It's a spiritual war. And that's what we find ourselves in right now. And I think for the first time in a very long time in American life, you have politicians, the highest being, the President of the United States coming out and saying, not only is it, not only should you not hide the fact that you're a Christian, it's okay to celebrate that. It's okay to wear the cross, it's okay to talk about Jesus Christ and God in public, and you don't need to hide in the corners anymore. This should be celebrated. This is the reason this country was founded. We are by and large a Christian Judeo country. And we need to get back to those sense of belief, that belief system that for far too long we've gotten away from. And you've seen what has happened to the country over the last 50 years because of that.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I was watching the speakers and you know, you got Pete Hegseth, you've got Marco Rubio, you've got others, Tulsi Gabbard, openly talking about Christianity and faith. This isn't exclusionary, by the way. I went to a big Bible meeting at Independence hall about the first Bible printed in America, and half of the speakers were Jewish. This is about a government that is getting behind good and acknowledging that our founders recognize the Creator for whom we've got our rights. So there was no mistake, and it wasn't excluding anybody. He wasn't saying, you're not welcome here. It was saying that you are all are welcome here and that we are on the side of good. That's what I found remarkable. But the most, the most powerful people in this country were espousing Christianity, espousing faith, espousing the creator. While the Democrat Party has spent so many years chasing God out of the public square and out of schools. I thought yesterday was amazing to see people in positions of power espousing for good.

[Mike Carter]

Yeah. And you know, you also yesterday, you saw a lot of folks put down their figurative swords. You saw Elon Musk and President Trump sitting in the same box together, shaking hands, reuniting. After several months of firing back and forth on X and on social media, those two had a falling out, which was historic. And we thought, well, that's it. That was a short lived marriage. And now those two men have gone their separate ways. They have even reunited over Charlie Kirk's death. There is a coming back to faith. There is a coming back to a value system in this country that is being felt. All the people in my life feel it. And again, you had Pete Hegseth yesterday, everyone yesterday, talking about exactly what Charlie Kirk preached. Faith, family, love of country. Those are values that depending, it doesn't matter if you're Democrat or Republican. And if you can't get behind those values, well, I don't know what to tell you.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, it's another 9010 issue and if you want to be on that side, you want to be on the Ilhan Omar's or AOC side, you're going to be left in the dustbin of history. Mike Carter, thank you, brother. I really appreciate, I know you've been bloody busy and you're flying back. I appreciate your work and as soon as I get this studio up and going to have you in studio hell, I might even see you in a pew at church. What do you think about that? I'll be there, Rob. All right, Mike, Take care of yourself, man. We'll talk soon. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. The Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere. Go to Newsmax.com listen for details.

His deep belief that we were all created, every single one of us, before the beginning of time by the hands of the God of the universe, an all powerful God who loved us and created us for the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then sin entered the world and separated us from our Creator. And so God took on the form of a man and came down and lived among us. And he suffered like men, and he died like a man. But on the third day, he rose unlike any mortal man.

And then.

And to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples so they could see, and they touched his wounds. He didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but his flesh. And then he rose to the heaven. But he promised he would return. And he will. And when he returns, because he took on that death, because he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin that separated us from him. And when he returns, there will be a new heaven and a new earth and we will all be together. And we are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love. Thank you and God bless you.

That is Marco Rubio. That's our Secretary of State. This is not excluding Jews. This is not excluding those who would follow Islam. This is our belief, and it is also an acknowledgement of good. Good. If you've been listening to this show, you know what I have said. I've been very, very fortunate that sobriety has given me a clearness of thought that I have never had in my life. And I recognize this. I knew something was happening. I knew something was. And this weekend we witnessed it. And those people who sat on CNN and on MSNBC and gnashed their teeth and showed their claws and howled like banshees, there's no more room for you. That's your Democrat Party. There's no more room for you. And I will tell you, if you want to make it political. The Democrat Party have sealed their fate. They think they're going to come back in the midterms. You're high if you think they're going to come back in the midterms. You're out of your nuts. You are out of your nut. This is RFK Jr. This is a Kennedy, for God's sake. Kennedy, a former Democrat. The Democrat Party ran him out of the party. Listen to him. Yesterday, a couple of days ago, my niece or my granddaughter left for college in Europe. Her mother noticed that she packed a Bible. When her mother asked her why she made that choice, she said, I want to live more like Charlie.

[Mike Carter]

And it's.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I know a Gen Z are going off to college saying that. Can you believe it? My God, can you even imagine the impact that he had in his life? And it was just put on light speed. Charlie Kirk's influence was light speed. His memorial service resonated around the world even bigger than Billy Graham's passing. It was something to behold. It was incredible. It was Incredible. This is Victor Davis Hanson and this kind of. He has a little bit different way of saying what I've been saying for the last couple of years about this movement around the world toward God and away from evil and toward freedom was going to catch on. Charlie Kirk died for a reason. This is the reason. We hate that he died. We do hate that he died. We wish he were alive, but he's gone and it's for a reason.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Something is happening in the United States, I think worldwide too. It's almost as if there were fuel and the death of Charlie Kirk ignited it. It's not a George Floyd movement at all or moment.

[John Solomon]

We've talked about that.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

It's very different. It's building up frustration. It's not a top down DEI mandate. Thousands of people are coming commemorating the death of Charlie Kirk. There's no tolerance for the usual left wing socialist craziness, the abhorrent violent smears of conservatives who've died. We're witnessing large scale demonstrations in Ireland, Great Britain, the government of France is going. There is unrest.

[Rob Carson]

And I told you Great Britain and France are next.

[Victor Davis Hanson]

Netherlands. It's a grassroot kind of collective shrug throughout Western civilization. And I guess it could be characterized as enough is enough. It doesn't mean we're going to outlaw free speech or try to use the same tactics as the critics of America do. But what we're saying is we're better than the alternative. The left can say all you want, but we're going to not just ignore you. We're going to do our best to make sure your voices have no influence.

[Rob Carson]

It's the reaction to the action. Robert Draper wrote a piece for New York Times, talked to Erica the last night of her time with her husband. His adrenal glands were going off. He got up. I could hear him eating some of the kitchen. He couldn't wait. He'd been waiting all summer to begin touring. The visit to college campuses were like an Olympic event for him. He trained for them. He used whiteboard sessions for hours, mock debates. He was just so excited. Charlie fell asleep sometime later in another bed in the house. Miss Kirk heard him slip out the next morning. I love you, she texted as he charted a plane to Provo. Mr. Clerk Kirk proclaiming to the pilot as he disembarked. Today is going to be a great day, she said. I'm allowing myself to feel this so deeply. Without medication, with alcohol, without alcohol. This pain the Lord is giving me discernment. Around her neck was a pendulous appendant of St. Michael that her husband was wearing when he was shot. The medics had ripped it from his body while attempting to stop the bleeding. A trace of blood remained on the crevice of the cross. The bathroom floor of the condo was still littered with towels from her husband's last shower. To this day, I can't go into my bedroom. I'm rotating where I sleep. She also received a vote of confidence from President Trump, who called her twice since the shooting. The two have known each other since 2012, when Mr. Mr. Trump was running the Miss USA beauty pageants and she was Miss Arizona. Over dinner with Charlie, she implored him to start wearing a bulletproof vest. When he demurred, a friend suggested the Mr. Clerk speak behind bulletproof glass. Not yet. He said he felt confidence in his. In his team. Kirk, like many of her husband's subordinates, had occasionally heard him imply that his life could be short by violence. She found herself wondering if a part of him had already surrendered to such a prospect. Do you remember when Martin Luther King said, I may not get there. I may not see it with you? He talked about having a dream and that he may not get there. Then he was taken. This is not an. An unusual thing to happen. Charlie Kirk died for a reason. We know that. We hate it. There's nothing we can do to bring him back. But he even kind of felt it could happen. Wait till you hear what she said when she saw his body. It's remarkable. John Solomon. Not just John Solomon. The John Solomon, just the news. First appearance on this show since cpac. Coming up next. Don't go anywhere. It is a Rob Carson show. I'm gonna try and not act like such a fanboy, but it's very hard for me to do considering that I consider John Solomon to be one of the. The greatest journalists of my lifetime. When he is on the web, when he's. Whether he's doing his podcast, whether he's breaking stories, whether he's doing television appearances, I drop everything to hear what he has to say. And he's going to say it right now. John Solomon, welcome to the Rob Carson Show. How are you today, sir?

[John Solomon]

I am well honored to be with you, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

I'll tell you what, John, you know what I would give for a slow news day? Just about anything right now? I think I'd give to a slow news day. Because I got to tell you, bro, it's been breakneck speed for a couple of years now. This is why you're. You are so out in the front of Everything. So much is happening in the world. And you. I'll just say real quick, it is remarkable how the, the broadcast and, and the ability to reach people has changed. And you're doing it in a completely different way than you would have done, say 10 years or even five years ago.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, it has changed so quickly. It allows anyone who has the desire to communicate, to get out there and talk and to have a debate and to get news out there. And I think that as we look back at the very sad events of the last few weeks, that's what Charlie Kirk was fighting for, to make sure that conservative voices and honest news could get out there. And he went right into the, I think, the most difficult of all the battlegrounds at the time, the most close mind, college campuses. And he began to have a debate. And over time, his success in that venue created the threat to liberals that I think led to his assassination. And I think all of us in the business today should double down on what we're doing, because I think that's exactly what Charlie was fighting for.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. You know, you look at. And I followed this through my career. I've been doing this for over 30 years now. And I've watched how on campus they were banning or protesting conservative speech. Then they started to say that speech is violence, words are weapons. And it kept growing from there. And Charlie Kirk stopped it. And he was, he was still building. In fact, this, this fall would have been bigger than anything he's done. He was unheard of to let alone not not only have a conservative speaker on campus, but have somebody show up and have thousands of people show up. Nothing like this has happened. This is why the left wanted him dead.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, there's no doubt he posed a threat to the, to the effort to quiet conservative voices. He posed a threat to the effort to cancel culture, those who have a different view than liberals. He posed a threat to those who wanted to debank conservatives. He posed a threat to those who wanted to regulate conservatives out of the free speech realm. And I think that he succeeded in turning that debate in a very big way. And I think that hatred on the left ultimately inspired at least one person to, to take that shot and to eliminate one of the most important and rising voices of the conservative movement. But it's funny, the bullet may have killed Charlie, but it didn't silence his movie. If anything, you know, amplified his movement in a way that I don't think the left could have anticipated three or four weeks ago.

[Rob Carson]

But you know, John, this has been done before. When you, when Evil attempts to take out the, the, the main mouthpiece for good. The, the instrument of change. And they think it's going to say it always backfires. You look at Martin Luther King Jr. Honestly, it's. There's a. He said in his speech he didn't know if he would get there with us. Charlie Kirk, in this interview with, with the New York Times, he was saying to people, you know, he didn't know if he was going to make it. These are, these are parallel. These are things that happen, but there's no stopping the evil from doing this thing. But it always blows up in their faces.

[John Solomon]

It does. It's funny, in my last time with him, which was about two weeks before he passed, I was one of the keynotes at his event in Colorado. And on stage we talked about what was at stake and what we were all fighting for. And he said that Western civilization itself was at stake in the fight ahead. That if the liberals prevailed, if the far left prevailed in Great Britain and in Ireland and other places among Europe where it's marching forward, it would try to come here and stamp out Western civilization and the freedoms and the liberties that we have at the core of our existence in America. He really understood the historical context of this fight and the stakes of this fight. And I think very few people understood it as well as he or President Trump. I think the two people I've met in the last decade that most understood the fight and its consequences are the President and Charlie. And I think that's why they struck up such a remarkable friendship.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And I was saying that Trump's victory would resonate around the world. And I believe that Venezuela is going to be free. I believe, you know, they tried. They did to Bolsonaro exactly what they wanted to do to Trump. Trump was just the unique person in history who could survive it and even survived two assassination attempts. So the same thing right now. And we began to see Britain's. They're angry about the, the, all of the radical Islamists, all of the invasion, the same thing going on in the United States. They're turn way with France. And Charlie Kirk's assassination has put those movements into light speed. Victor Davis Hansen talked about it over the weekend. You've got change in Turkey, you've got change in Poland. It looks like it's going to be unstoppable in England and France. And I believe Charlie Kirk's death inspired people to change toward good, toward freedom in those countries.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. No, there's no doubt this was a shot heard around the world. And its impact on restoring the fight for freedom. I think one of the dangers of the Western civilization is that we've become complacent and we've assumed that our freedoms were impenetrable. Our enemies did not assume they were impenetrable. And they have been making great efforts to erode those freedoms and also to change the mindset so that future generations don't embrace those freedoms. And that's why you saw on the polling on college campuses in the last decade a growing number of people feeling it would be okay to infringe speech if it meant avoiding offending others. That is a communist, socialist and Marxist idea. But it was creeping through. And the enemy not only was trying to infringe the freedom, it was trying to re indoctrinate a generation, that it would not embrace that freedom the way the prior 10 or 12 generations of American leaders did. And so Charlie's debate on college campuses was to restore that notion that intellectually you had to embrace freedom. And right before Charlie died, we had this extraordinary moment where a Democratic senator, Tim Kaine, actually stated, yes, the Declaration of Independence's proclamation that we are endowed with our creator with inalienable rights of freedom and liberty. That he didn't believe that. He believed that our liberties came from government. That's exactly the mindset that our enemies are trying to impose on our children, on our society, on our government. And it's why Charlie was so inspired to fight it.

[Rob Carson]

John, I think the disinformation movement, disinformation, as Stalin called it in 1923. I've been following this, John. There is nothing that has hurt me more to the core than being told I could not express my opinion, that my opinion was disinformation or misinformation. John, if that hadn't happened to you, you would not be, I don't think, where you are now because you are the voice of freedom and journalism in America. It must have been just soul destroying for you to live in a country where they called real journalism if it disagreed with the narrative of the government. Disinformation. When that was happening, what was going through your mind?

[John Solomon]

Well, we knew we were in a fight for something bigger than just a story or a Hunter Biden scandal, that it was really the core liberty of freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of expression that was being taken away from us. And so all of us who were in that fight back in 2018, 19, when the disinformation machinery began to crank up and the industrial censorship complex began cranking up, we began to understand this isn't about one story and about one journalist or one news outlet. It is about preserving freedom. And I think at this moment that it's easy to get complacent and think, well, maybe we want it because we've got a reprieve. The other side is not letting up. And that fight for keeping that freedom is more vibrant, more important now than it's ever been now.

[Rob Carson]

John, could you hang on to the next break? I'd like to talk to you about you got a big story in the Convention of States. I've already been talking to Mark Meckler.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. President Trump just, just tweeted it out. Yeah. Or truth it out a few moments ago.

[Rob Carson]

Okay, good. I want to talk about that. I'd also like to get on Trump calling out Pam Bondi over the weekend. Some, some different theories going about about Charlie Kirk's assassin, et cetera, if you could. Could you hold on for the next break?

[John Solomon]

Sure.

[Rob Carson]

All right. I love it. More with John Solomon coming up on the Rob Carson Show. Don't go anywhere.

And tomorrow we're going to have one.

Of the biggest announcement really medically, I think, in the history of our country. We're going to be doing it with Bobby and Oz and all of the professionals. I think you're going to find it to be amazing. I think we found an answer. That's President Trump talking about announcing why autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 kids to 1 in 12. John Solomon, justthenews.com on the Newsmax hotline. One of the many stories we're covering I saw online today, 4 o' clock is when this announcement is coming. And I'd also heard it's about Tylenol and pregnant women. I've heard about vaccines. What have you heard?

[John Solomon]

Yeah, well, I think there's a they're going to lay out a range of things that they have learned. Tylenol among pregnant mothers is one of those. Folic acid is another area. They're looking at whether women who took folic acid starting in the 90s to, you know, build up their body in anticipation of it created folic acid resistance in children. And that there are some really promising. I have an autistic son. And so there's a really, I know that remarkable research that's being done right now looking at what happens when you restore folic acid to an autistic child. There's been some children who've had full restoration of mental faculties and basically an abatement of all of their autistic symptoms. So I think it'll be a variety of things. I don't think it'll be a magic bullet. I think it'll be a multiple thing that they've discovered. But it's a big moment. And this is something that's been debated for three to four decades. And in the last three to four months, more progress has been made than in all those three or four decades before. That sort of the. You mentioned the speed and velocity of the Trump news cycle. It is one of the hallmarks of this presidency that things that were long delayed are now rapidly getting action, whether it's the border being fixed or even more recently, something that we focused on adjust the news. We have a pharmaceutical supply chain crisis of epic proportions in America. We saw it during the pandemic. Joe Biden did nothing to fix it afterwards. In the last three to four weeks, the Trump administration has made enormous, enormous strides in addressing that and making America moving towards a solution that would make it non dependent on China and India for our drugs. The basic stuff that we have, the antibiotics and the antivirals. This is something that was ignored for three decades. In three months, it's been sped to a near solution. I think that's one of the hallmarks of the Trump presidency. Lots of long, lingering issues getting all addressed at once and at a speed that we seldom see in Washington.

[Rob Carson]

Well, we've never had a candidate or a president in Washington, D.C. who does what the people asked him to do, at least since Reagan. And I, and I pray, honestly, John, for your child and others. I have many, many friends, countless friends and family members who have kids who are on the spectrum, some so profoundly they have to be institutionalized. And it breaks my heart that we haven't been able to get through to them. And hopefully we'll be able to prevent the autism and then maybe open up the minds of those kids so they can finally communicate, because I would imagine their existence is so torturous because of autism. So I'm praying for you, John, and for all of the parents and the kids with it. I am. Let me ask it now. I thought with Donald Trump's election, this might slow down convention of states. I've been talking to Mark Meckler forever because I thought, hey, man, Trump's going to do it. But Meckler talked to me this morning and he's like, no, no, no, this is getting bigger than that. What have you heard about the march of the convention of states and the possibility of one happening?

[John Solomon]

Well, we've seen the number of legislatures in the last five or six years, double who have approved it. We're still about 10 away from getting to the level that you need to actually have a convention. But today, just a short while ago, President Trump truth doubt our story on the momentum that the convention of states has been gaining, clearly throwing his support behind the idea. And there's a very important line in the story that said presidents from Washington, Lincoln and Reagan all supported Article 5 conventions, but none had put their muscle behind it. Will Trump be the first? He answered that question pretty quickly by clearly endorsing it in a, in a truth post he did about an hour ago. If the president were to get behind this, that extra 10 legislatures, you need to get to the magic number to have a convention, it could rapidly speed up President Trump's popularity in some of these states. Very high. This is a big moment and one of the ways that a long runaway government could finally be brought to heel.

[Rob Carson]

John, I gotta tell you, I said when Donald Trump was elected, it would take us maybe years to recognize the profundity of what this movement was going to do to our country. And it's breathtaking to me. It's not unexpected, but it's breathtaking that it's happening. It's happening, it's happening. One of the things that Donald Trump said this weekend, he's calling out Pam Bondi for not going after Democrats who abused and usurped us and him and others like Jim Kobe, Adam Schiff, Letitia James. Tell me about that, that, that what's happening with Donald Trump getting on Pam Bobby, about getting things done.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, listen, I think There was a U.S. attorney out in Northern Virginia that was slowing down a significant process, grand jury subpoenas and other things. The president learned about it, removed at least one of the prosecutors that he had concerns about and appointed a new person, someone that he trusts a lot, Lindsey Halligan to be the new U.S. attorney for Eastern District and just get the ball rolling again. The FBI has a massive amount of investigations and subpoena requests that were lined up, but they were sitting inside the Justice Department bureaucracy. And I think this weekend the president lit a fuse. And when, I mean, let a few. There's a lot of action going on today that wasn't going on two days ago. Subpoenas, indictments. I think you should look for a rash of really significant activity in the next couple of weeks.

[Rob Carson]

John, we are, we are short on time here, but I hope that when I get my studio completely up and running, that you'll come over and grace us with your presence for an hour for an hour or five, because I could talk to you forever, bro. I got to tell you, John, I didn't know you before, but you, you are one of the preeminent journalists. You rose from the ashes of disinformation. You and Matt Taibbi and Matt Shellenberger never even heard of really, before. They're the Woodward and Bernstein of our generation, except for they're not political like they were. But, John, I thank you so much. I follow your, your stories and you're doing such a good job, such a good job. And I just appreciate you so much. God bless you. Justthenews.com John, anywhere else you'd like to say about where people can watch your podcast, your video podcast, etc.

[John Solomon]

Well, very lucky. I'm real America's voice. Every night, six o', clock, I got my TV show. Just the news, no noise. And you can follow me on social media, jsolom reports on all platforms.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you, John. God bless you, brother. We'll talk again soon.

[John Solomon]

Okay, thanks.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. I told you November 5, we will not be able to recognize the profundity of Donald Trump's victory. Four years to come. And today we're on the cusp of finding out what has caused the autism epidemic. And I tell you what, for those who've been in charge of the CDC and the hhs, wow, have you dropped the ball? Look what you did. You allowed autism to go from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 12. My God in heaven. What the hell is wrong with you bastards? How could you let this happen? I have more than a dozen friends, more the last 20 years. I have friends, family members who have autism from mild. We call on the spectrum Asperger's, which now they're no longer calling it Asperger's. To profoundly. I have a niece whose daughter is institutionalized. All she can do is bounce up and down on an exercise ball and shriek because I know, I know she's living. She is in there. She's in hell. She's in purgatory. Her brain is in purgatory. I believe there's an intelligent human being in there. I really believe it. We've seen it. I've seen kids with profound autism given a computer and then saying teenage girls saying to their parents, I just want you to know I'm in here. She still has the same feelings as any other teenage girl. Her body is changing. She likes boys, but she's got this, this fog of autism that's here and that we've allowed it to grow from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 12. What is wrong with us? What has been wrong with us? This. I swear to God, this is a spiritual movement. This is a spiritual movement that we had a government that was so profoundly corrupt, sickeningly corrupt, that they created a virus, paid for it, unleashed it, and then gave us a vaccine that didn't work. And if anything, it caused vaccine injury. Oh, my God. This is a baptism by fire that this country has needed for decades. And that we had become so dark and evil is remarkable. Remarkable. And those people who had Charlie Kirk's service, Yesterday's memorial service, 200,000 people in Phoenix, maybe a billion people worldwide, walking it, watching it, watching it. And then the Democrat Party has their heartbeats like Ilhan Omar and Jasmine Crockett. They're. They're awful people on. On the media, scratching and clawing at Charlie Kirk in his memory, calling him racist. Honestly, this is going to wipe out the Democrat Party, and it should. They're doing it on their own. They haven't learned anything. They're not repenting. Unbelievable. How'd you like that first half hour, huh? Or that first hour? Pretty great. More is coming up on the Rob Carson Show. Don't go anywhere.