Running on Empty, Running from Reality

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Running on Empty, Running from Reality
Date: July 23, 2026
Host: Rob Carson
Produced by: Newsmax Podcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show dives headfirst into the state of American politics leading up to the 2026 midterm elections, exploring the perceived unraveling of the Democratic Party, the influence of Democratic Socialists, and escalating tensions in the Middle East. Rob brings his signature blend of sharp humor and pointed critique, featuring opinions from prominent guests including Newt Gingrich, Brigitte Gabriel, James Carville, and April Chapman. Issues like polling manipulation, radicalism on the left, foreign policy with Iran and Israel, and controversial voter registration errors are all discussed—often with satirical flourishes and memorable soundbites.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The State of the Midterms: GOP Momentum & Democrat "Empty" Platform

[00:26 – 04:28]

• Rob discusses the current congressional race polling, sharing numbers from the Cook Political Report: Republicans at a solid 212 seats, Democrats at 205, with 18 toss-ups.
• He and guest political analysts argue that Democrats’ narrow lead among registered voters is misleading, a result (per Rob) of historic polling manipulation by left-leaning media to suppress Republican turnout.
• Rob: “The Democrat Party is not running on anything. They are running on empty. They’re running on nothing but hate Trump. That’s it.” [03:31]
• Optimism for a GOP wave, referencing historical shifts, suggesting an opening for "common sense Democrats" to rescue the country from extremes.

2. Radical Voices in the Democratic Party

[04:29 – 12:18]

• Focus on Chevalier “Dariel Az Avila Chardonnay,” a Democratic Socialist who unseated a party incumbent in New York, with an internship history linked to an institution allegedly associated with Hamas.
• Rob labels her a “radical Marxist Islamist” and lambasts her for her anti-police, anti-flag, and anti-Israel positions.
• Newt Gingrich weighs in: “These people are crazy. We keep dealing with them as though they were serious people.” [07:50]
• Gingrich and Rob both frame these Democratic socialist figures as emblematic of a dangerous, anti-American fringe with excessive influence due to lethargic mainstream participation.
• They discuss Zohran Mamdani (NY Assemblyman) as another example of “temper tantrum” politics—youthful, unrealistic, and performative.

3. GOP vs. "Communist Democratic Party": A Defining Election

[10:51 – 12:18]

• Rob and Gingrich warn that the leftward lurch could provoke a historic collapse for Democrats.
• Gingrich: “[If] we end up in an election this fall between a Communist Democratic Party and the rest of the country, it could be one of the most historic collapses in American political history.” [10:52]
• Discussion of Democratic leadership (Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries) as outmoded, or playacting as statesmen rather than moving forward substantive policy.

4. Democrat Party Culture Wars and Intraparty Tensions

[16:34 – 18:22]

• James Carville, known for bluntness, fiercely criticizes young white progressives in the party:

  “It's a bunch of over educated little white turds who think they know more than other people...they think their history is more glorious than yours...they think that Lenin was a more glorious human being than Martin Luther King, Frederick Douglass.” [17:17–17:58]

• April Chapman (Newsmax commentator) notes that socialist policies, rather than lifting up any group, reduce everyone to the bottom, predicting internal collapse:

  “None of the policies are geared toward lifting up any group...It's about everybody being at the bottom.” [19:14]

5. Foreign Policy: Iran, Israel, and the Middle East

[22:07 – 36:38]

• Rob and Brigitte Gabriel (Act for America) analyze the U.S.-Iran conflict, recent ceasefires, and the Trump administration’s strategy.
• Gabriel: “Hamas is rebuilding. It empowered them. Right now with Iran, we gave Iran a breather and now we're ramping up operation.” [23:29]
• Discussion covers internal Iranian politics, the limits of negotiation, and the role of Israeli intelligence:
  • “Israel wants to change the regime [in Iran]. Maybe America does not...but Israel wants to take out the regime.” — Brigitte Gabriel [29:26]
  • Rob: “That regime does have and by God, every seed of the IRGC needs to be destroyed.” [30:36]
• Joking moment: Rob asks Brigitte for dating advice about Persian women, with Gabriel urging respect and protection as key virtues. [36:55]

6. Voter Integrity Debate: Non-Citizen Voter Rolls

[38:22 – 40:21]

• Rob Finnerty reports on the controversial inclusion of 6,600 non-citizens on New Jersey voter rolls, with implications that the left and mainstream media are downplaying the seriousness—branding it as a tech error instead of a systemic threat.
• Finnerty: “Headline after headline writing that this was just some sort of accident...it's a lie on top of so many other lies that you've been told lately.” [39:49]
• Rob: “If you're in the country illegally and you get a letter saying that you can vote and you know you're not supposed to...that's some stupid business.” [39:14]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The Democrat Party is not running on anything. They are running on empty.” — Rob Carson [03:31]
• “These people are crazy. We keep dealing with them as though they were serious people.” — Newt Gingrich [07:50]
• “It could be one of the most historic collapses in American political history.” — Newt Gingrich, on possibility of Democrats’ collapse [10:52]
• “It's a bunch of over educated little white turds who think they know more than other people...” — James Carville [17:17]
• “None of the policies are geared toward lifting up any group...It's about everybody being at the bottom.” — April Chapman [19:14]
• “Israel wants to change the regime. Maybe America does not...but Israel wants to take out the regime.” — Brigitte Gabriel [29:26]
• On non-citizen voting: “That's some stupid business.” — Rob Carson [39:14]
• Lighthearted moment: Rob asks Brigitte Gabriel for tips on dating Persian women. Gabriel: “Be kind and respectful and protective.” [37:11]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Podcast & Event Intro/Personal Update | 00:26 – 02:29 | | Midterm Polls and Party Outlook | 02:29 – 04:28 | | Radical Democrats/Avila Chardonnay | 04:28 – 07:43 | | Gingrich on Democrat Radicalism | 07:43 – 12:18 | | James Carville Critique | 16:34 – 18:22 | | April Chapman on DSA Implosion | 18:57 – 19:48 | | Middle East/Iran with Brigitte Gabriel | 22:07 – 36:38 | | New Jersey Non-Citizen Voter Rolls | 38:22 – 40:21 |

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Tone and Style

Rob Carson’s tone throughout is animated and irreverent—leveraging satirical jabs, historical references, and pop culture metaphors (“candy aisle kids”) to engage and provoke. Panelists and guests (notably James Carville and Newt Gingrich) are candid, often blunt, and occasionally coarse—especially when discussing the internal divisions within the Democratic Party or the zealotry of Democratic Socialists. Commentary is unapologetically partisan and highly critical of the left, while simultaneously extolling what’s seen as GOP momentum and “common sense” American values.

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Final Thoughts

This episode emphasizes deep concern over the Democratic Party’s direction, casting it as both ideologically extreme and operationally corrupt, while affirming confidence in a Republican resurgence. Foreign policy analysis is interwoven with broader cultural critiques, highlighting continuing tension in US-Israel-Iran relations and advocating for assertive, uncompromising approaches. The episode is peppered with humor and personal anecdotes, making complex and controversial topics more digestible for its right-leaning audience.

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Transcript

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[Rob Finnerty]

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[Newt Gingrich]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Rob Finnerty]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Political Analyst]

now with Ro roughly 105 days to go before the election. The Cook Political Report now has the Republicans at a solid 212seats with the Democrats at just 205 with 18 tosses.

[Rob Carson]

By the way, the Democrats are leading with registered voters by 3 percentage points, which means we're already ahead and the reason being is Democrats always poll way out ahead of Republicans before any election because the pollsters and the leftist media used the polls to suppress the vote.

[Political Analyst]

Now, when you compare that to this time in 2018 when the Democrats went on to win 40 seats, the Democrats were up with 210 seats and the Republicans were at just 195 seats with 39 toss ups. So that's effectively been inverted. According to Cook, the GOP would only need to win six of the 18 toss ups, which of course would help target that billion dollar war chest the GOP is sitting on right now.

[Rob Carson]

And again, the Democrat Party is not running on anything. They are running on empty. Hey, there you go. Little Jackson Brown for you. But they are. They're running on nothing. They're running on nothing but hate Trump. That's it. And you can't just live in darkness forever. You can't just live in darkness. And now that the Democrat socialists of America have moved in, darker days ahead for the Democrat Party. And like I said, I said, I told you that 80% of believe the country was headed the wrong direction. 80% of us can come together to save her. And I really do believe this is an opportunity for common sense Democrats to go, enough is enough. We love our country. I know it's hard to imagine there are that many of you when you consider the vocal mouthpieces of your party and the leaders of your party. But I believe there are some of you out there and I think we can still agree to disagree. But we cannot agree on communists running the country. That's all there is to it. Here's Newt Gingrich talking about the midterms.

[Newt Gingrich]

Oh, if I were betting tonight they'll keep both and they'll increase their margins,

[Rob Carson]

which is what I've been saying now

[Newt Gingrich]

for about a year in the end. You know, you had somebody the other day in New York who won a primary who said, I never pick up a napkin, I just wipe my hands on the American flag.

[Rob Carson]

That was, by the way, that was a Chevalier check from. Yeah, I call her a chick. You know, I do that. It's to mock her case. You wanted to know. It's nothing sexist. I'm just doing it to mock her. New York Democrat Chevalier, Democrat Socialist Dariel Az Avila Chardonnay scored a stunning primary upset over longtime representative Adriano Espayette or whatever in New York. Now, apparently she did a two month internship in 2014 in one of her 12 years that she's been. Been in college. Yeah, 12 years at EL and it's called an Naja National University in the west bank where she taught professional competency courses. Oh my God, that's hilarious. Through the Virginia based Tomorrow's Youth program. According to the Washington examiner, international watchdogs and terrorism researchers have long identified El Naja as a center for Hamas recruitment and radicalization. Hamas has previously described the university as a greenhouse for martyrs, while researchers have documented the school's ties to the terrorist group's Islamic bloc student organization, Duh. The examiner reported that during Avila Chardonnay's internship, students celebrated graduation with large Hamas flags and manners. Graduates also displayed a hand gesture associated with Hamas after the kidnapping of three Israeli teenagers who were murdered. The report also noted that Anhanaja has faced repeated scrutiny over the years after students had faculty members were arrested on terrorism related charges. Yeah, I mean, what else do you need really? What else do you need? Controversial campus exhibit honoring a deadly Hamas suicide bombing was ultimately shut down after an intervention from then Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat. Neither Avila Chardonnay's campaign nor An Naja National University responded for requests for comment. Avila Chardonnay described the trip to this university as a defining moment in her political development. It was really informative, she said. She said there and Abila Chardonnay co founded Columbia University apartheid divest and activist organization later participated in the 2024 anti Israel encampment protests at Columbia University. The group declared it sought the total eradication of Western civilization. Chardonnay later deleted social media posts endorsing the abolition of police in prisons mocking the American flag, although she recently said Hamas was wrong to target civilians. October sevent bull crap. Archive post showed she had previously compared the US to Hamas. Abilia Chardonnay defeated. She's a friggin radical Marxist Islamist. That's all you need to know. That's all you need to know. Back to Newt Gingrich on the midterms.

[Newt Gingrich]

Guess what percent of the country thinks you should wipe your hands on the American flag.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I mean that's a villa Chardonnay.

[Newt Gingrich]

These people are crazy. We keep dealing with them as though they were serious people. There are crazy people who happen to be at an intersection in history where with 5%, 7%, 9% of the vote, they got to be the nominee while the rest, everybody sat in their hands and thought this is so stupid. I don't even want to be involved. I know we have Republicans, if they do it right, have a chance this fall to win one of the greatest victories in American history and to begin to rival Thomas Jefferson in Defining their opponents as so clearly anti American that they have no space in the American political system.

[Rob Carson]

100%. And this is why Donald Trump said this yesterday in a brilliant speech in Georgia. America is back. It's stronger than ever before.

[James Carville]

And I'm telling you, it's only going one way. It's going up.

[Rob Carson]

As long as we keep our current

[James Carville]

thinking, our current system, it's going up.

[Rob Carson]

If you go the other way, nothing ever succeeds. I made the statement once with communism, everything turns to sh. Okay, there you go. 100%. We are at war with communism. Here is Newt Gingrich. And you know, I told you about this, this movement, and I, and I said the summer of 2020 was about children and a temper tantrum. And I call them candy aisle kids. The Gen Z is raised where in the grocery store. This is a metaphor, that there are certain aisles, they don't have candy. And parents see little signs is no candy aisle. And they will steer the cart into that aisle if they have their kids in one of those giant carts that has seating for four and safety belts in it, like steering a tanker into the, into the Panama Canal. And they do that because there are parents who can't parent and can't say no. So you don't see the candy. You won't see the tantrum and the parents, the soy boy latte drinking parents of now, if their kid throws a tantrum, they can't handle it. And so they'll capitulate to the demands of the children. Whereas when we were growing up, if you demanded candy from your parents and your mom said no and you threw a tantrum, you got your rear end kicked when you got to the car. That's it. That's why I call them candy Al kids. And this is what Newt Gingrich is essentially saying about Zohrad Mondame and his ilk.

[Newt Gingrich]

Oh, no. Look, Mandami is the ultimate sort of temper tantrum by a juvenile. Nothing he says is real. Nothing that he's doing is real. His idea about he's not in touch with the planet, you know, he says, we'll give you free bus rides. That's not true. What he's saying to you is, we're going to steal from somebody else to pay for your bus ride. He says he's going to arrest Netanyahu. He knows he can't arrest Netanyahu.

[Rob Carson]

No, not at all.

[Newt Gingrich]

He knows it's a lie.

[Rob Carson]

It's stupid.

[Newt Gingrich]

That won't happen under American law. But he is New York City. He is the darling of the left, and therefore he's going to have.

[Rob Carson]

His star is fading.

[Newt Gingrich]

Huge impact.

[Rob Carson]

It's fading fast.

[Newt Gingrich]

On defining the Democratic Party, which I have to say, and I agree with President Trump on this. I mean, if we end up in an election this fall between a Communist Democratic Party and the rest of the country, it could be one of the most historic collapses in American political history.

[Rob Carson]

I agree completely. I told you the Democrat Party was descending into hell. How many times I need to say that? I told you to do it. A death spiral into hell. I don't know how I do this. I don't know how I am able to get this stuff right. I know that I've been on the planet for a while. I've seen a lot of things. I've got a lot of great life experience. I got a lot of great common sense. You know, I don't know, but I'm able to see this stuff. I'm able to see this stuff. And here's Duke Ingrid talking about the leaders of the Democrat Party like Hakeem Jeffries. They're cooked.

[Newt Gingrich]

Well, I mean, no, they're not going to last. Schumer is sort of the last stand of the 1970s. Hakeem is a guy, if you watched him. I'm not. I actually stayed up. Cliston and I were nuts. We stayed up and we watched his elaborate four and a half or five hour speech. This was a moment of insanity. I mean, this was a high school class president pretending to be a national figure. Yeah. And look where they are. They are the heart of the left wing rebellion in their state.

[Jesse Waters]

Wow. Ground zero. We'll see.

[Rob Carson]

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[Brigitte Gabriel]

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[Rob Carson]

so you want to hear some good news? Jack Smith is being hit with criminal referral as the GOP moves testimony fight toward prosecution Jim Jordan I should say former Biden special counsel Jack Smith could face potential criminal prosecution after Republicans accused the ex prosecutor of misleading Congress about the scope of his investigation into Trump. Jim Jordan, House Judiciary Committee chairman, issued a criminal referral for Smith Wednesday, arguing newly released records contradict Smith's testimony to his committee that he did not obtain or review lawmakers text messages. And he did. He did them in mass. He did them in Mass like 44 members of Congress. And then of course a whole lot of you and me. Here is a little bit of Josh Hawley talking about Jack Smith and what he did and how he abused his power.

[Rob Finnerty]

Here is a record. I'm going to read it to you. A record of Jack Smith's responses under oath. Now to members of Congress. He is asked question as it relates to members and their staffs and senators. It's just the toll records as far as you remember Smith. That is my recollection. Question, did the records that you requested include the content of text messages? Smith answer no, he was lying.

[Rob Carson]

Here's what he actually did.

[Rob Finnerty]

Well, we know that he read my text messages. Yes, absolutely, Sean. He also tracked my phone. He tracked my whereabouts, my location, monitored my incoming calls and my outgoing calls. What did he do with the text messages? We don't know that yet. What we do know is he absolutely read them. He absolutely shared them with members of his team and all of that illegally.

[Rob Carson]

The justice it was a fishing expedition. Show me the man. I'll show you. The crime department requires they did that when they raided Mar A Lago that

[Rob Finnerty]

there be screening for any members of Congress in their text messages. Jack Smith said under oath as you just played, that he didn't seek the text messages of members of Congress, but in fact we know that he did. So he lied. He violated the law. He violated the Constitution. This guy ought to be prosecuted.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, it'd be so fun. I can't wait. I can't wait till he's prosecuted and convicted and spend some time in jail. Wouldn't it be awesome? Something to Hope for. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I promised you some James Carville and here he is, grubby old man. Get off my lawn, kids. He is quite upset about these. Less, I guess. Less. You know, he's getting very profane and awful about Donald Trump. I hate Donald Trump. He's a fu and all that crap. Now he's a little bit more concerned about these young whippersnappers. They're whipperstaffers for goodness sake. In his party.

[James Carville]

House candidate who surge in a battleground disc and missed. I'm going to read something to you and I'm going to tell you why this is typical. A progressive House candidate who served in a battleground district in Michigan is law. And Democratic party officials once said black. Black US political leaders are a pillar of the capitalist and fearless American establishment. Yeah. Jim Caribben is part of that. Yeah, you're right. That's exactly who Martin Luther King was. Yeah, you're right. That's who John Lewis was. And these people are paternalistic and it's a bunch of over educated little white turds. I gotta hear that again. People are paternalistic and it's a bunch of over educated little white turds who think they know more than other people know. They know and they know what's wrong and they gonna go and. And then you got. They're talking about indicting Netanyahu.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I know.

[James Carville]

And that the problem is you have a candidate, a DSA candidate, New York, saying we should be against interracial dating.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I know.

[James Carville]

Let me tell you something. You know what these people and these are to all my black friends and front people like me? They think they know more than you do.

[Rob Carson]

They don't.

[James Carville]

They think their history is more glorious than yours. They think that Lenin was a more glorious human being than Martin Luther King, Frederick Douglass.

[Jesse Waters]

They do.

[James Carville]

That's what they really think.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, they do.

[James Carville]

And if you don't, you know that you don't know your history.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[James Carville]

And you should view these people with extreme, extreme skepticism because they think they know what's better for you than you know what's better for you. And they think they know your history better than you know their history.

[Rob Carson]

I told you, Democrat party dying like booby vampires. James carville.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Oh,

[Rob Carson]

That is fantastic. Speaking of African Americans, I'll just say black women. April Chapman is fantastic. I've been following April Chapman on the social media. She is just phenomenal. She was on Newsmax talking about how the DSA is going to implode it

[April Chapman]

is a joy to see the left demolished in itself. I know at the end of the day, if you examine the policies of the democratic socialists of America, none of the policies are geared toward lifting up any group.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[April Chapman]

It's about everybody being at the bottom.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[April Chapman]

So I would ask on what basis is he saying that the democratic socialism of America are racist? Is it because there's no particular policy specific for black people or specific for women? They keep forgetting that socialism is about the warmth of collectivism. You don't get to be special in the democratic socialist framework. And so the whole entire movement is going to implode on itself. And I'd be interested to see where this conversation leads. I'm just enjoying it from the sidelines.

[Rob Carson]

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[Military Analyst]

1500 missiles left, which they have now, and about 150 to 175 launchers. And now they're going through them. That's, you know, so we have destroyed 75% of their military capability and we just needed to finish the job. The unfortunate thing that we did is we went into a cease fire too early. And you know what? This is the same thing that happened to Israel with Gaza, with Hamas, and this is exactly what we did with Iran. We should not have gone with the cease fire. But the Arabic states were putting pressure on President Trump saying, look, they're going to attack us. Let's give them piece of chance. Let's hit the pause button, let's have a ceasefire. And that's what you end up with.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

I believe right now we are ramping

[Military Analyst]

up the operation and we're going to continue fighting. The President Trump now knows that negotiations is a waste of time with the Iranians and he will finish the job.

[Rob Carson]

You know, there's only one way to make an appearance by Brigitte Gabriel better on the Rob Carson show, and that is to introduce Brigitte Gabriel with Brigitte Gabriel. Oh, my goodness. Bridget Gabriel, how you doing today?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Thank you, my friend. I'm doing great. I'm delighted to be back with you.

[Rob Carson]

I loved what you said there, girl. I saw that the other night. I'm not sure, I think you were on Newsmax and you are spot on. And, you know, I think that ceasefire was premature as well. And it looks like you were exactly right.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Yeah, Hamas is rebuilding. It empowered them. Right now with Iran. We gave Iran a breather and now we're ramping up operation. But the good news is, is President Trump can tell the world we gave diplomacy a chance. We signed the memo of understanding and we gave them 60 days to work it out. They didn't abide by it. They didn't listen. They were belligerent. We tried and tried and tried and they broke the agreement again and again and again, or the memorandum of understanding, and now they left us no option. It's not our fault we're attacking them. They made US do it. And I think the world needed to see this because, you know, for those who are screaming, America is war hungry, America wants to take over the oil in the Middle East. America is invading nations because it's a colonialist power. This shuts them up. All those who are screaming that President Trump and the Republican Party are pro war and it's Israel that's driving the agenda and they want to go to war with the Iranians. Well, Iran just proved that. We gave, we gave peace a chance. They didn't want to abide by it. And here we are again.

[Rob Carson]

I did not, I failed to mention. You are with actforamerica.org Act4America.org is an organization you need to get involved in. You need to sign up. Seriously, you need to do it. But I remember a couple weeks ago, you and my friend Matthew Farace, you were freaked out about this memorandum of understanding. And I was too, a little bit. And I said, you gotta, you know, we have given Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt for a very long time, and has he ever let us down? And I think now we kind of understand. Do you feel better about that? And the, and the, you know, the stress that you had about that memorandum of understanding now that Donald Trump has been bombing the snot out of him for 12 days?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Well, I'm glad we went back to bombing. I do feel better because I do believe we need to finish the job as a terrorism analyst who have followed Iran for years. And look, look, my dealing with Iran started when I was a survivor of war in Lebanon, which now is a country that Iran destroyed with Hezbollah. They set up a proxy army. They made that a base. So I understand. And I have followed Iran since 1979. So for me, this is nothing new like it is for most Americans who are not really. Never really paid attention to the Middle East. You know, it's always a pain in the neck over there. These people are killing each other over there. Most Americans never really paid attention to the Middle east until 9 11, 2001. And even since then, you know, they started forgetting about it. The longer we moved away from 9 11, 2001. But what we are realizing is that the world is getting smaller and what's over there is no longer over there because of how cheap air travel is and because people are able to travel all over the world. And because of Instagram and because of social media, people are able, because of the migration all throughout the world. Yes, people are now paying attention to the Middle East. So I'm glad that we are back to bomb the daylight out of Iran. We need to topple that regime down. We don't have to do it personally, but we can at least help the Iranian people to do that. But I'm glad we are stripping Iran of its military power and certainly taking away from them any hope that they have to build a nuclear reactor or have nuclear weapons. We cannot allow them to have that. And I'm glad we are where we are today.

[Rob Carson]

I want you to hear what Jesse Waters had to say about working with Israel to finish off Iran.

[Jesse Waters]

The option on the President's desk right now is an all out war that would include pickaxe. Sources say Israel would come in to help deliver the final blow. The Israelis are already on high alert and preparing to go full scale. F16s and F35s are moving into theater and refueling planes are being pre positioned. The Iranians say they still want to negotiate, but talks are off. The United States says they're not coming back into the table until the Iranians show they're serious. Iran's been given every opportunity to negotiate, to show that they're reasonable on the Strait of Hormuz. But if they're going to shoot at commercial shipping, then we're going to hit them, as the President said, ten times harder, which every night we're degrading them further and further. And the President has all the options necessary. If they want to talk, they can talk. Otherwise they can deal with the War Department.

[Rob Carson]

I don't think they're going to talk. I think the time for negotiating is way behind us.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Brigitte Gabriel well, here's what we're dealing with. Iran, we're dealing with, dealing with two different people. They are the IRGC who are running the country right now, who do not want to negotiate. But then there are the other group of Iranian leaders who do want to negotiate. And they are the ones who have been doing the talking with us, you know, in Pakistan. But they don't have the power to enforce whatever's happening on the ground at the theater of war because the IRGC is running the country and the IRGC is the one who propped up Musta Bahomeini and put him in power, even though we do not know where he is right now. Some news say he is out of the country getting treatment, et cetera. But we know that the Iranian government is so fractured on the inside that there are two elements fighting within the country. An element that knows that the country is dying and they are fighting for their survival. And the other element, which is the IRGC who say we're going to fight until every last Iranian is dead. And that includes over 90 million Iranians. We don't care if 90 million die. That's what we're looking at in Iran.

[Rob Carson]

What about Israel? Israel, it's right in their backyard. What about Israel Special Forces, you know, what about Israel intelligence helping to finish the job? I would imagine they would be very effective.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

They are on the ground right now inside Iran as well as the CIA. We know that. Look, the intelligence that we are getting out of Iran, that's all the Israeli brilliant what I call because this is the one thing that puts Israel aside from any other country in the world and that is their human intelligence. They understand that the only way to gather intelligence and be able to be effective in your operations is not through satellite in the sky. Satellite can only give you too much. You have to be on the ground. And the Hezbollah pager operation in Lebanon proved just how important intelligence on the ground is working with Iran. So they are working with the CIA. They are on the ground inside Iran right now and they are working to empower or to help the Iranian leaders on the inside from the resistance to be able to rise up and take over the government. Israel knows that we've got to change. Israel wants to change the regime. Maybe America does not want to change the regime they're talking about. Oh, we just want to protect the oil interest and oil global production worldwide. But Israel wants to take out the regime.

[Rob Carson]

It's got to be and that's all that matters. And if somebody's got to do that, if we're not going to do it, somebody has to do it. That regime does have and by God, every seed of the IRGC needs to be destroyed. I want to take a break and come back with more with Brigitte Gabriel again. Go to actforamerica.org actforamerica.org let's take a break and come back. You're listening to the Rob Carson Show. It is a Rob Carson Show. Brigitte Gabriel, act for America.org we're talking about Iran. What needs to come next? I thought it was very interesting that the president of Iraq and Lebanon came to Washington, D.C. they're talking about massive, massive investment in oil infrastructure in places like Iraq. So it sounds like the Middle east is moving away from paradise after death and after martyrdom to actually maybe enjoying it here on Earth. What are your thoughts?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Well, I think it is amazing the strategy that President Trump implemented in the Middle East. He isolated Iran from Syria, from Lebanon, from Iraq. I mean, remember Iran wanted to establish hegemony across the Middle east. And this is how they used to get weapons to Hezbollah and Lebanon through Syria. That was their conduit. Iraq as well, where you have Shiite concentration. Iran was working with the Shiite to resist the Sunni groups in Iraq, and they had a major operation in there as well. So what we are seeing is President Trump is reaching out and empowering or installing new leaders, like in the case of Syria, leaders who are already in Lebanon and in Iraq and saying, okay, we're going to work with the. You're going to work with the United States and we're going to help you defeat the Iranian encroachment into your society. Because Iran has embedded its tentacles in both societies, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. But no longer. Right now, Syria is completely under the control of Jilani, which we installed, installed by our CIA to the shock of all of us. We didn't understand it at the time, but that was the deal that we did. We wanted to take control of Syria and cut off Iran and that cut off the weapons to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Right now we are working with the president of Lebanon to empower the Lebanese army to basically fight Hezbollah and get Iran out of. So you're seeing the reshaping of the Middle east and you're seeing a really great possibility of countries like Syria and Lebanon joining the Abraham Accord.

[Rob Carson]

We haven't heard much from Gaza lately, have we?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

No, we have not. It's been off the radar, you know, the American public, the news cycle, it's occupied with the new Shining Wall. Hamas threat is not gone. Hamas is back rebuilding again because we stopped two weeks short, short of finishing the job. We forced Israel to stop two weeks short before finishing the job. So Hamas is claiming victory. Hamas is saying, look, we won. We were able to withstand the bombardment from Israel and the United States for two years, and now they gave up and we are still here. And so they are tightening their grip on the Strip. But, you know, it's. It still poses a threat to Israel.

[Rob Carson]

You mentioned Lebanon and Hezbollah. And Iran was so important to that web of terror around the world, including with Hamas. And now it sounds like the Lebanese military is going after Hezbollah. Would you say that Hezbollah's days are very, very, very numbered?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

It's going to be very hard and a long fight. The Lebanese army, 30% of the Lebanese army is in the pocket of Hezbollah. The leader of. The current leader of the Lebanese army right now is on the pocket of Hezbollah and a Hezbollah sympathizer. So there's a big challenge in Lebanon. So, yes, we are trying to arm and strengthen the Lebanese army. And I think the United States agreed to arm and train a special elite group within the Lebanese army and vet them to be able to fight Hezbollah. I think down the road, maybe years down the road, they will be able to do that. But it's not going to be an easy fight because they've got the spies within the army itself working against the army to support Hezbollah.

[Rob Carson]

I love Zoran Mandami getting having to admit he is powerless to arrest Bibi Netanyahu. I would say he should be ashamed, but he has none. What are your thoughts on that ridiculous idea that he floated about arresting Bibi Netanya?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

I think it was a brilliant idea on his part for their base. He knew going into it he had no power to arrest Netanyahu. But look at the publicity Rob that he got out of it. I mean, Zohran Mamdani was on the news 24 hours a day, on all news networks, Newsmax, including all the leftist media, wall to wall, 24 hours a day. And you know what President Trump says, no publicity is bad publicity. Remember he said, that's true.

[Newt Gingrich]

That's true.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Everybody was talking about Trump. Zohran Mamdani understands that. And he's building a name. It was such a PR stunt that made him a brand name in the Democratic Party and a king maker within the Democratic Party.

[Rob Carson]

That's true.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Because just the fact of him saying that attracted the new people, socialist people who hate Israel to his party, even including on the moderates and on the right, saying, you know what? If he can arrest Bibi Netanyahu, good for him because Israel is controlling American politics.

[Rob Carson]

I got you. I got you. One more thing. One more thing before we go. And I know you're not Persian, but I've got a match.com profile and there is a Persian woman who I've been talking to. And if I were going to date a Persian woman, what advice would you give me?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Oh, boy.

[Rob Carson]

I thought I'd throw that out at the very end. I just thought it was kind of interesting because I saw this woman, she was flirting with me online and I said, I said, are you Persian? And she goes, yes. How did you know? I said, you just look Persian.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Go ahead, be kind and respectful and protective. The one thing Persian women and people from come come from the Middle east are those cultures. They are used to men who are macho, who feel they can abuse or disrespect their women. The way to earn her heart is to be a Good protector and provider. That's how you turn a Middle Eastern woman's heart.

[Rob Carson]

I'm good at all those things, girl. I'm good at all those things. Brigitte Gabriel, you are the absolute best. ActForAmerica.org give us a real quick pitch for ACT for america.org. got 30 seconds.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

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[Rob Carson]

All right. God bless you. We'll talk again soon. Stick a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Brigitte Gabriel]

So you preferred your pronouns to be they and them.

[Newt Gingrich]

They, them.

[Jesse Waters]

Okay.

[April Chapman]

Do you need me to explain how to use that?

[Brigitte Gabriel]

Nope, because I'm not going to.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Rob Finnerty did a great job last night talking about these New Jersey illegal aliens who voted, 400 of them, 15,000 on the voter rolls. Illegal aliens registered to vote. Here's Finnerty on Newsmax.

[Rob Finnerty]

Here's a CNN headline. Yesterday, quote, 6,600 non citizens mistakenly added to New Jersey voter rolls. The implication being that these poor people got a ballot in the mail and didn't know what to do. So they just thought they might go down and vote. Yeah, allegedly. Reportedly, of course. But the implication, again, this is not me saying this, this is cnn. Yeah, but the implication is basically that illegal immigrants are just too stupid to know the difference.

[Rob Carson]

Not at all.

[Jesse Waters]

If you're in the country illegally and

[Rob Carson]

you get a letter saying that you

[Jesse Waters]

can vote and you know you're not supposed to.

[Rob Carson]

Not only you're not supposed to vote,

[Jesse Waters]

you're not supposed to be there.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Why do you vote? Like, how do you get registered for a party?

[Jesse Waters]

I mean, but I just, like, wonder,

[Rob Carson]

like, that's some stupid business.

[Rob Finnerty]

Jake. Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. Jake. They vote because they want to keep the free dravy train going. And they vote because they know that the media, people like Jake will cover for them. And that's exactly what is happening now.

[Rob Carson]

Now, here's another great point from today.

[Rob Finnerty]

Headline after headline writing that this was just some sort of of accident or it was a glitch or it was a software error. Nope, it was just an accident. It was all some big mistake, which is a lie. And it's a lie on top of so many other lies that you've been told lately.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, fine.

[Rob Finnerty]

It was a software error. Let's go with that. But then why did they go and vote? And why haven't these people been arrested? Voting illegally in our elections is a federal crime. You can jail for that.

[Newt Gingrich]

Boom.

[Rob Finnerty]

And we certainly have all their names because they went and voted.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. That is just great, great, great commentary by Finnerty. I've known Rob Finnerty since Kansas City, when I was on the radio there, and then I sold cars. And he came to New York City and became a part of Newsmax. Freaking phenomenal. And pithy and humorous. And he does, you know, like these humorous monologues that are just brilliant. He uses humor to make a point, like I do. By the way, the Newsmax lineup is. Is terrific. If you're not watching Newsmax, you should download the Newsmax app, become a Newsmax plus member. I mean it. I really do. And then of TV shows called Rob Carson's what in the World. Donald Trump says it makes me the funniest man on television that's gonna do it for the show. Did we have fun today in the new studios here in Washington, D.C. i think we did. God bless you. Our country has founded Donald Trump kicking butt, by the way. To hell with the dsa, by the way. And until tomorrow, which by the grace of God, is finally Friday, do not catch the stupid. I love you guys. Thank you so much.