Senators Tell Military to Defy Trump?! Rob Explodes on Live Radio

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Senators Tell Military to Defy Trump?! Rob Explodes on Live Radio
Date: November 19, 2025
Host: Rob Carson | Newsmax Podcasts

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Overview

This episode of the Rob Carson Show centers on a provocative statement by several Democratic Senators and political figures urging the U.S. military and intelligence community to potentially defy orders from former President Donald Trump should he return to office. Rob uses his trademark mix of humor, parody, and impassioned commentary to analyze what he calls a "dangerous" escalation in American political rhetoric, drawing historical parallels, critiquing Democratic strategy, and asserting unwavering support for Trump among the military's ranks.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Ford’s Theater Christmas Carol & DC Local Color

• Rob opens the hour with personal excitement about seeing A Christmas Carol at Ford’s Theater, using the story as a segue into broader themes of tradition and the meaning of Christmas.
  • "[A Christmas Carol] is the favorite of my entire life... If you ever, if you ever in D.C. you know, let's, let's hang out." (02:00)
• Brief light-hearted commentary about the historical significance of Ford’s Theater and a few jokes about staying out of the infamous balcony—showcasing Rob’s signature humorous segue style.

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2. Senators’ PSA: Urging Defiance of Trump

Segment Start: [03:54]

• Rob spotlights a group of Democratic senators (whom he refers to as “white, privileged senators”) releasing a PSA urging intelligence and military personnel to “refuse illegal orders” if Trump returns to the presidency.

  • Rob is incensed, calling the PSA “ridiculous,” and repeatedly challenges what illegal orders Trump is being accused of issuing:
    • "What illegal orders has he given the military? Anybody? Anybody know what illegal orders he's given in the military? Anybody? Anybody, ever?" ([04:40], Rob Carson)
  • He further mocks the style of the PSA: "Oh, I hate these ads where they put together the series of people saying, ‘I’m for this, I’m for that. A cliche public servant.’" ([05:03], Rob Carson)

• Rob asserts this rhetoric is an attempt to "foment some sort of insurrection," paralleling it with previous Democrat-supported activism and unrest, and claims it won’t succeed:

  • "The Democrat Party wants to foment something...This is going to fail because the military is solidly behind Donald Trump." ([06:00], Rob Carson)

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3. Elise Slotkin’s Town Hall & ‘Alpha Energy’

Segment Start: [07:20]

• Rob plays tape from Rep. Elissa Slotkin urging Democrats to develop a plan to counter a potential “onslaught” from the White House and calling for “more alpha energy.”
  • He interprets “alpha energy” as dog-whistle language for violence:
    • "What does alpha energy mean? It means fighting energy, masculine energy, something that they have called toxic for many years." ([07:37], Rob Carson)
  • Rob argues Democrats are “Lean[ing] into an armed insurrection” and “playing with fire,” alluding to civil unrest during summer 2020:
    • "They want something to happen. And they're playing with fire. They've tried everything else with Donald Trump... now they're trying to, I guess, convince the military to disobey Donald Trump, which would be the worst mistake you could ever make as a military member." ([06:46], Rob Carson)

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4. Military Command, Article II, and Legal Orders

Segment Start: [08:44] – Key Quotes

• Rob and guests emphasize the President’s constitutional authority as commander-in-chief, not Congress or civilian officials, referencing Article II, Section 2:
  • "Article 2, Section 2 of our Constitution is very clear: 'The President shall be commander in chief of the army and Navy...not Congress...It is unlawful, a brazen act of subversion against our country.'" ([08:49], Guest/Commentator)
• Discussion with ex-military lawyer (likely Mark Levin):
  • "I find no evidence that President Trump or anyone in your chain of command has issued unlawful order to you...Tell the country what orders you think are unlawful." ([09:57], Caller/Guest)

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5. Satirical Parody & Military Culture

Segment Start: [11:27]

• Carson airs a parody about military “wokeness,” making fun of Pentagon figures and the idea of “trans soldiers”:
  • "The Pentagon is so woke. Yeah, they're gonna follow those Jack weeds. General Millie, he's a joke." ([11:48], Rob Carson)
• Uses humor and song to skewer contemporary military cultural changes attributed to Biden’s administration.

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6. DOJ, Trump Investigations, and Political Weaponization

Segment Start: [13:25]

• Rob revisits how DOJ actions, including the appointment of Jack Smith and investigations into Trump, are (in his view) part of a concerted effort to “destroy President Trump” without substantial evidence:
  • "I think this was worse than Watergate. An effort to destroy President Trump, charge him with crimes that are just ridiculous and come after people like me. I'm not going to put up with this crap anymore." ([13:25], Caller/Guest)
• Carroll condemns current Democratic moves as “flirting with fire” and claims they’ve “crossed the line.”

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7. Unaccompanied Minors & Border Policy

Segment Start: [14:22]

• Rob spotlights unaccompanied minors lost during the Biden administration, alleging a “crime against humanity” and blaming Democrats for not upholding child welfare:
  • "450,000 unaccompanied children who crossed the border during the Biden administration disappeared into the ether without any welfare checks..." ([15:04], Rob Carson)
• Compares Trump’s actions to expose and combat trafficking positively against Biden’s handling.

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8. Social Security, Illegal Immigration, and Democratic "Voter Loading"

Segment Start: [19:28]

• Reports on claims that the Biden administration gave illegal immigrants Social Security numbers and work authorizations rapidly, allegedly to increase Democrat voter rolls:
  • "You've got yourself a brand new Democratic voter. And all it took was the sacrificing of 450,000 children and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of young Americans to fentanyl. My God." ([20:21], Rob Carson)

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9. Jeffrey Epstein Files & Political Hypocrisy

Segment Start: [21:40]

• Covers the House vote to release Epstein-related files, mocking what he views as Democrats' selective outrage and hypocrisy:
  • Contrasts scrutiny of Trump (whose main link to Epstein, according to Rob, was a photograph and then banning him from Mar-a-Lago) with Clinton and Democratic connections:
    • "It does actually tie [Hakeem Jeffries] closer to Epstein than anything Donald Trump ever did. And the most he ever did was, like, have a picture taken with him. And then he found out what Epstein was all about, kicked his ass right out of his golf club." ([28:55], Rob Carson)
• Discusses Hakeem Jeffries being solicited for donations by Epstein’s circle, and the broader pattern of ignoring Epstein’s connections to Democrats.

Notable Quote:

• "For years, the American people and Joe Biden's Oval Office, or I should say in Bill Clinton's Oval Office, you probably needed all sorts of sunshine and bleach." ([24:39], Rob Carson)

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10. Virginia Giuffre, Trump, and the Epstein Files

Segment Start: [33:02]

• Highlights testimony from the ghostwriter of Virginia Giuffre’s memoir, stating Giuffre was a Trump supporter, viewed him as a “hero,” and that Trump “was kind to her” at Mar-a-Lago:
  • "She absolutely did [mention Trump]. She was a huge Trump fan...The second reason [was] she wanted Trump to be president is because he campaigned on releasing the Epstein files." ([33:02], Amy Wallace, Guest/Commentator)
  • Rob, sarcastically: "There you go. You know who went to Epstein Island? Bill Clinton. Now Gore. Yeah, they did." ([33:54], Rob Carson)

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11. On Calls for Political ‘Alpha-ness’ and Insurrection

Segment Start: [34:31]

• Listener call discusses the meaning of Slotkin’s “alpha” rhetoric, debating whether it appeals to toxic masculinity or is simply a political ploy.
  • Caller: "Guilt by association is the most primitive and lazy way to go about a prosecution."
  • Rob reaffirms theme of Democrats using distraction techniques and double standards in political attacks.

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12. Democratic Rhetoric, Violence, and Double Standards

Segment Start: [38:07]

• Rob responds to Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett suggesting Trump incites violence, cataloguing a series of past Democrat quotes calling for protest, “unrest in the streets,” and not being “polite.”
  • "Nothing like that has ever come from Republicans. Nothing like that has come from Donald Trump. Enough is enough. We're not stupid. But I'm telling you we're getting pretty bloody fed up with it." ([40:13], Rob Carson)

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps and Attribution)

• Rob Carson ([04:40]):

  "What illegal orders has he given the military? Anybody? Anybody know what illegal orders he's given in the military? Anybody? Anybody, ever? Anybody?"

• Guest/Commentator (on constitutional authority, [08:49]):

  "Article 2, Section 2 of our Constitution is very clear...It is unlawful, a brazen act of subversion against our country."

• Caller/Guest (on DOJ weaponization, [13:25]):

  "I think this was worse than Watergate. An effort to destroy President Trump...I'm not going to put up with this crap anymore."

• Amy Wallace, Giuffre’s Ghostwriter ([33:02]):

  "She was a huge Trump fan...The second reason she wanted Trump to be president is because he campaigned on releasing the Epstein files."

• Rob Carson ([40:13]):

  "Nothing like that has ever come from Republicans. Nothing like that has come from Donald Trump. Enough is enough. We're not stupid. But I'm telling you we're getting pretty bloody fed up with it."

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Significant Timestamps

• 03:54: Rob introduces the PSA from Democrat senators encouraging the military to potentially defy Trump
• 07:20: Elise Slotkin’s “alpha energy” town hall and Rob’s analysis
• 08:44–11:19: Deep dive into constitutional issues, expert legal opinion, and the doctrine of lawful vs. unlawful orders
• 13:25: Expanded discussion on DOJ targeting Trump and its broader political implications
• 15:04: Critique of Biden’s border policies and the fate of unaccompanied minors
• 19:28: Allegations of Democrats increasing voter rolls via relaxed Social Security approvals for migrants
• 24:39: Parallels drawn between Biden, Clinton and the Epstein files, with a focus on Democratic hypocrisy
• 33:02: Amy Wallace recounts Virginia Giuffre’s experiences with and opinions of Trump
• 38:07–40:13: Rob provides a montage of Democratic violence rhetoric, contrasting with Republican discourse

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Tone and Style

The episode is highly opinionated, bombastic, and laced with Rob Carson’s characteristic satire and sarcasm. He intersperses moments of sharp political criticism and outrage with comedic song parodies, cultural references, and quips. Guests and call-ins both serve to reinforce Rob’s line of argument: that Democratic rhetoric has reached a dangerous fever pitch, and that accusations against Trump are not only unfounded but hypocritical given the left’s own actions.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

If you’re concerned about increasing tensions in American politics, this episode is an example of how right-wing media interprets (and lampoons) calls from Democratic leaders urging the military to remain vigilant against unlawful orders. It is an unfiltered view into the skepticism, distrust, and occasionally alarmist tone that characterizes current conservative radio commentary. Rob Carson argues unapologetically that the military is loyal to Trump, that Democrats are risking stability with their "insurrection baiting," and that issues such as child trafficking or the Epstein scandal are being selectively weaponized for political gain.

Expect an entertaining, combative, and occasionally irreverent deep-dive into the week’s most controversial political headlines—with plenty of criticisms for “wokeness,” Democratic hypocrisy, and media narratives along the way.

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[Guest/Commentator]

We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military, but that trust is at risk.

[Caller/Guest]

This administration is pitting our uniforms.

[Rob Carson]

You guys screwed the military when Joe Biden was the president, or military and.

[Guest/Commentator]

Intelligence community professionals against them.

[Rob Carson]

Why would anyone, why would anyone in the military particularly listen to you American citizens like us?

[Caller/Guest]

You all swore an oath to protect.

[Guest/Commentator]

And defend this Constitution.

[Caller/Guest]

Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, they're not at all. No, no. Actually, Donald Trump's adhering to them. He's actually adhering to the Constitution. Unlike Joe Biden, our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders, you can.

[Guest/Commentator]

Refuse illegal orders, you must refuse.

[Rob Carson]

What illegal orders has he given the military? Anybody? Anybody know what illegal orders he's given in the military? Anybody? Anybody, ever? Anybody? Anyway? Yeah, I'm not thinking with Pete Hegseth as the head of the Department of War, you'd want to disobey any orders.

[Caller/Guest]

Fuse illegal orders.

[Guest/Commentator]

No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

[Caller/Guest]

We know this is hard and that it's a Difficult time to be.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, I hate these ads where they put together the series of people saying, I'm for this, I'm for that. I'm for this, I'm for that. A cliche public servant.

[Guest/Commentator]

But whether you're serving in the CIA, the army or Navy, the Air Force.

[Caller/Guest]

Your vigilance is critical.

[Rob Carson]

And know, what about Space Force? What the hell about Space Force? What about those people, huh? They're floating around in space, for God's sake. We have your back because now more.

[Guest/Commentator]

Than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for.

[Caller/Guest]

Our laws, our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up, don't give up, don't.

[Guest/Commentator]

Give up, don't give up, don't give.

[Rob Carson]

Up, don't give up. How about. How about sticking up your ship? My God, how stupid are you people? This is, this is the closest thing to, you know, they want to. The Democrat Party uses words of war. The Democrat Party wants to foment something. They've got it going on in America's cities. They've got people worked into a ladder going after ice. They call Donald Trump a Nazi and a fascist. They, they have no kings rallies. They're trying to foment some sort of insurrection. This is going to fail because the military is solidly behind Donald Trump, particularly with the Department of War and of course, Pete Hegseth in charge here. But I want you to listen to Elise Slotkin. She's one of the people involved in this, and she was in front of a town hall, and here she is. And I want you to listen carefully because she is leaning into an armed insurrection. Okay? They are leaning into this. They want something to happen. And they're playing with fire. They're playing with fire. They've tried everything else with Donald Trump. They tried everything other thing, and now they're trying to, I guess, convince the military to disobey Donald Trump, which would be the worst mistake you could ever make as a military member. You will lose your career. You will lose everything. It will be over for you. And another thing, I, I know you're not going to because you love what Donald Trump is doing in the military, but anyway, here is she in a, in a, in a, a town hall. Listen to what she says to the veterans. Now, what do you suppose about veterans? Why would she appeal to veterans when it says to, to defy Donald Trump? Oh, because they have service in the military and they know how to use firearms.

[Guest/Commentator]

Democrats, if we are going to deal with the onslaught from the White House. Need to A, have a plan.

[Rob Carson]

What is the onslaught from the White.

[Guest/Commentator]

House, and B, get a little more alpha energy into our leadership.

[Rob Carson]

What does alpha energy mean? It means, it means fighting energy, masculine energy, something that they have called toxic for many years.

[Caller/Guest]

Okay.

[Guest/Commentator]

A little more alpha energy. And our veterans understand what this is.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, our veterans, Our veterans. Our veterans understand what that is because they have handled firearms and they've been into battle. It is. They are. They're skirting around it. They're trying to make it. They want to have plausible deniability. I told you, the Democrat Party has been conducting a civil war with paid for soldiers of Fortune in antifa and Black Lives Matter and all these other NGO driven and paid groups that have fomented violence. $2 billion worth of damage during the summer 2020, 30 people dead, thousands of police officer injuries. Tried to burn down St. John's Church, went after Tesla dealerships. So they have a civil war, a civil war by proxy with plausible deniability. I told you this. And they're really, they're, they're, they're playing with fire. They're playing with fire. Here's Hannity talking about what they may be violating.

[Caller/Guest]

Our Navy, the Air Force.

[Rob Carson]

Your vigilance is critical and know that.

[Guest/Commentator]

We have your back.

[Caller/Guest]

This should shock the conscience and soul of Every American. Article 2, Section 2 of our Constitution is very clear. Quote, the President shall be commander in chief of the army and Navy of our country, the usa, not Congress. Not a former CIA officer, not a former astronaut, not Elise Slotkin. It is not just inappropriate for these Democrats to try and undermine President Trump's sole authority constitutionally as commander in chief. It is unlawful, a brazen act of subversion against our country. They appear to want a military coup in our country to take place.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that's what they want. And I'm telling you, you are playing with fire. You are playing with fire. Here is Lindsey Graham talking about the possibility of defying the, the orders of Donald Trump. But again, nobody's gonna do it. Nobody's going to do it with Donald Trump as Commander in chief because the military is solidly behind him. Nobody is going to turn their allegiance to those idiots in that stupid psa.

[Caller/Guest]

You've got United States senators and members of the House suggesting to our men and women military that they should be disobeying unlawful orders issued by President Trump and his organ and his military. I was a military lawyer for 33 years. I was a prosecutor, defense attorney and a military judge. And if you're Listening to this program tonight, I find no evidence that President Trump or anyone in your chain of command has issued unlawful order to you, to the people who made these accusations. I'm going to write you a letter tomorrow, and I want you to tell the country what orders you think are unlawful. What did President Trump do wrong? As commander in chief, you owe that to the men and women of the military. To be specific about what you're talking about. If you're in the military, you need to follow the lawful orders of your commanders.

[Rob Carson]

You better.

[Caller/Guest]

And article 92. Check it out. So what these senators and House members did was unnerving. And it was unconscionable to suggest that the President. United States is issuing unlawful orders without giving an example. The hatred of Trump cannot spill over to putting our men and women in the military in jeopardy. You're going too far.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you are. And remember when Joe Biden was in charge of the military and they went all woke and everything. Jim Gossett did this. Fighting.

[Caller/Guest]

Soldiers are depressed.

[Rob Carson]

I'm not too worried. Morale is far from best. Remember they had trans soldiers.

[Caller/Guest]

If you're sad, change your sex. They say wear a dress and a big beret.

[Rob Carson]

The Pentagon is so woke. Yeah, they're gonna follow those Jack weeds. General Millie, he's a joke. Oh, my God. Remember that joke? Whoever thought you'd see the day when fighting men could be TR or gay? I'm pretty terrified of that Army. We must turn this mess around. And we did, while sane people can still be found.

[Caller/Guest]

Fire your missile.

[Rob Carson]

Stop it.

[Caller/Guest]

That's what they like to say.

[Rob Carson]

Cause the DOD has gone really gay. Not anymore. Trained to fight on foreign lands. Trained in combat hand to hand or hands everywhere. Uniforms match their lipstick shade, stiletto heels and a pink beret. You know, I'm not. I'm not so worried about it. But the fact that these people would do this should get them in some real problems and some real trouble. And I mean that 100%. They need to be investigated for what they're doing because this is just their latest tool that is going to. And now they're treading into dangerous territory. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Caller/Guest]

In 2022. President Trump in November says, I'm going to run again in 24. Three days later, Jack Smith is appointed special counsel in November 2022. By August of 2023, there are 91 felony charges against him coming from New York, Washington and Atlanta. My phone records were seized as part of this. I am tired of this, the third leading DOJ lawyer left DOJ in Washington to work for Alvin Bragg in Manhattan. What was that all about? Fannie Willis, boyfriend, spent a day in the White House talking to the Jack Smith people. What was that all about? I think this was worse than Watergate. An effort to destroy President Trump, charge him with crimes that are just ridiculous and come after people like me. I'm not going to put up with this crap anymore.

[Rob Carson]

I'm absolutely 100%. And honestly, this is the latest thing. We got several senators saying they want military to disobey orders and the CIA to disobey orders without saying which orders supposedly are illegal. And they're flirting with fire. They've really crossed the line here. After all of the bull crap they've done, including attempting to assassinate Donald Trump, they've really, they've really pushed it past the line here. And this sort of nonsense has got to. Has got to stop, has just quite simply got to stop. We will see how this develops, how the White House responds to it today. But it is, first of all that they have the, that they think that anybody would go with them, that would march with the Democrat Party and say, anybody in the military particularly, would go with these jackasses and say, okay, I'm going to disobey my orders and disobey Donald Trump because the orders are illegal. You've not said what he's done that is illegal. And honestly, first of all, I wouldn't say it's an empty threat because it is a threat. Just because nobody's going to abide by this doesn't mean anything. The fact that they would do this is an active insurrection and they should be in some serious problems over this. They, they should. Because like I said, the Democrat Party is doing everything they can just shy of Fort Sumter to start something. They are. They are. They've got a group of sheep who will do anything they want. You got them to wear stupid masks and stand six feet apart from each other, take a shot. That didn't work. Then they, then they went out and burned Tesla dealerships. Then they burned the country. They said that the country was, was, was racist and, you know, Christopher Columbus needed to go away. They will do anything that the Democratic Party asked them to, but not, not in the military. Ain't gonna happen. Ain't gonna happen. Let's move on to some other stuff here. Let's move on to some other stuff here. I thought, this is kind of funny, a couple of things. One of the awful things that Joe Biden did while he was the president, although he doesn't really. He had no idea what he was doing. 450 unaccompanied minors were abandoned under Joe Biden's border policies. This is a crime against humanity, by the way. We've been talking about this. And for some odd reason, this is not some sort of monstrous crime against humanity because it happened under Joe Biden's presidency. But 450,000 unaccompanied children who crossed the border during the Biden administration disappeared into the ether without any welfare checks to protect vulnerable children from sexual abuse and exploitation through collaboration with law enforcement partners. Trump administration taking a sledgehammer to human trafficking rings, ensuring these children who were smuggled across the border are not being abused. Secretary Kristi Noem is leading efforts to rescue and stop the exploitation of 450,000 accompanied children, unaccompanied children the Biden administration lost or placed with unvetted sponsors. Remember when AOC cried on the border when Donald Trump was the president? Nobody cried for these children. We became monstrous, our country became monstrous that they allowed this to happen. One of the many affronts to not only our law, but also humanity. Many of the children that came across the border unaccompanied were allowed to be placed with sponsors who were smugglers and sex trafficked. I want you to think about that. Think about the suffering that has been, has happened and is happening right now. The Trump administration has located 24,400 of these kids. Still got a long way to go. The Release by the DHS says that 12 states, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, sponsors of unaccompanied children have been arrested. Sponsors have been charged with various types of assault, rape, domestic violence, attempted murder, drug trafficking and human trafficking. I want you to think about that. I want you also to think about that. The Biden administration opened the border to 20 million illegals unvetted for criminality and disease, and also allowed a free flow of fentanyl, which killed hundreds of thousands of young people in our country. Did you ever see a PSA for fentanyl before Donald Trump became the President of the United States? I'm not letting this go anywhere. I'm not letting this go anywhere. It is so utterly, utterly insane that we did this. And then they denied it and they said that the border could not be open. And we all know what it was about. It was about ushering in untold amounts of Democrat voters across the southern border and loading them up with all sorts of government largesse. Here is Rob Finnerty. He did a spectacular story on this the other night on Newsmax.

[Caller/Guest]

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[Guest/Commentator]

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[Caller/Guest]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Guest/Commentator]

Did everything to bankrupt Trump to put him in jail for four years. Don't you think that if there was any kernel of anything that they found troubling in those documents, we would know they did everything else. They could weaponize the doj.

[Rob Carson]

I don't believe that.

[Caller/Guest]

Why?

[Guest/Commentator]

If they had that smoke, honestly.

[Rob Carson]

And then you got the clueless CNN panel going, oh, I don't know. I'm going to deny the obvious. I'm going to deny what is very obvious. Dear, dear, dear, dear. Honestly, people are so stupid. This is why Scott Jennings has become such a superstar, because he's sitting on that panel every day with a bunch of morons. Here's Jim Comer talking about the, the Epstein probe in. The gentleman from Kentucky is recognized.

[Caller/Guest]

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

[Rob Carson]

As chairman of the House Oversight Committee, I've Always believed that sunshine is the best disinfectant. Yeah. For years, the American people in Joe Biden's Oval Office, or I should say in Bill Clinton's Oval Office, you probably needed all sorts of sunshine and bleach.

[Caller/Guest]

Demanded transparency about Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's horrific crimes and about the federal.

[Rob Carson]

Government'S failure to protect the victims.

[Caller/Guest]

The House Oversight Committee is conducting a thorough review of the federal government's investigation into Epstein.

[Rob Carson]

Our work goes far beyond the legislation before us today.

[Caller/Guest]

We are committed to accountability, transparency, and.

[Rob Carson]

Justice for the American people and for.

[Caller/Guest]

The survivors of these appalling crimes.

[Rob Carson]

And they use the. Jeffrey Epstein, the, The hinting at the possibility of a connection with Jeff Ramsey. They've been doing this. They've been doing this for a while now, and they did it the night that the, the, the, The Democrats failed with their government shutdown. They, they said, oh, release the. Release the, you know, the, the files. And so Donald Trump said, okay, release the damn files. Go ahead and release the files. And now the Democrats are saying, you know, some other idiotic excuse. I have no idea what it is here. Is here, you know, trying to. They're losing. Okay, we know that Hakeem Jeffries apparently got a whole bunch of money for. He was asking for a whole bunch of money way back in 2013. One of the people associated with his, I guess, political group or whatever wrote a series of emails sent to Epstein by a Democrat aligned with the consulting firm that worked for Keem Jeffries. Here's one of the emails. Dear Jeffrey, we're thrilled to announce we are working with Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, one of the rising stars of the New York Congressional delegation. Give us a call if you would like to get involved or with a dinner or you would like to get an opportunity to know Hakeem better. For some reason, asked to go to Chuck E. Cheese. No idea what that's about. Anyway, he's an impressive guy who will be a progressive voice in New York politics for years to come while his career is already over. He looks like a complete tool. Epstein, at the time of the messages, was a known sex offender, having pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting prostitution from a minor. But the Democrat Party will do anything for money, and they'll vote for anyone as long as they think they can win. Here is Mike Johnson talking about the Epstein files and how the Democrats could have given a rats behind about it when Joe Biden was the president and they had access to release all of them.

[Caller/Guest]

But the truth is the biggest proponents of this discharge petition were never actually interested. And transparency or ensuring justice or protecting victims of this unspeakable tragedy, the Epstein evils. And. And how do we know that? Because the Democrats had every one of the Epstein files in their possession.

[Rob Carson]

They did.

[Caller/Guest]

For the four long years of the Biden administration.

[Rob Carson]

Yep.

[Caller/Guest]

The Biden Department of Justice had the files the entire time. And not a single one of the people who are so loud and animated right now, they never said. Said anything about it. For all those four years. None of them held press conferences. None of them demanded the release of the documents. And under Biden's doj, when they. When they prosecuted just Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell, not a single one of these.

[Rob Carson]

Democrats, why weren't they concerned about the victims then? They're so concerned about the victim. Why weren't they concerned about the victims then? Because the victims were still victims then. Right? Am I right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here's Hakeem Jeffries being asked about the money that his. The people around him were begging for.

[Guest/Commentator]

Max team called Dynamic SRG that says, we are thrilled to announce we are working with. The White House has been highlighting an email that I'm sure you've seen today that Jeffrey Epstein got in 2013. They say it shows you were soliciting money and dinner from an Epstein. The email was not sent from you. Isn't from a political consultant consulting firm called Dynamic SRG that says, we are thrilled to announce we are working with Congressman Hakeem Jeffries. Shoot us an email or give us a call if you would like to get involved. What's your response? Do you recall that email being sent to Jeffrey Epstein from. From that team?

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah. Of course, I have no recollection of the email.

[Rob Carson]

I've never had a conversation, no idea.

[Caller/Guest]

With him, never met him, know nothing about him other than the extreme things that he's been convicted.

[Rob Carson]

But it does actually tie you closer to Epstein than anything Donald Trump ever did. And the most he ever did was, like, have a picture taken with him. And then he found out what Epstein was all about, kicked his ass right out of his golf club, said, I don't want anything to do with you at all. Don't want to have anything to do with you at all. Remarkable. Now, should I do this now? No, let's do it on the other side of the brick, because one of Epstein's victims was a wonderful young woman named Virginia Giuffre, and she killed herself. She killed herself because she couldn't handle the weight of the abuse that she suffered and then the first further abuse that she suffered by other men in her life who wouldn't listen to her story or do anything about Jeffrey Epstein. And on the other side, the ghostwriter who wrote her book, the book that was published posthumously, she talks about how she completely exonerated Donald Trump of everything and said that Donald Trump was a very wonderful man. So there is that. There is that. We will share that on the other side of the break. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. I've been talking to you about webroot total protection for your computer. Cybercrime spikes during the holiday, especially around Black Friday Cyber Monday. Falling victim to cybercrime is the last thing anyone needs. I'm constantly being fished for nonsense online. I haven't bitten. But they are always coming up with creative ways to tell you you're late on a payment, you need to update some pay. There's a great offer, there's this, there's that. And a lot of times you go, okay, I'm going to go ahead and give them a credit card number and all of that. And then you find out you're screwed. Or you find out your identity has been stolen. With my discount. 75% off Webroot total protection is less than $50 a year. Here's where you go to get 75% off webroot.com Carson webroot.com Carson if you would like that. Can you imagine backup protection all in one device, identity privacy protection. $50 for a year. Are you out of your mind? Peace of mind for 50 bucks. Talk about the best gift you could give yourself or loved ones. Unbelievable. Real time antivirus protection against emerging threats like malware, ransomware, phishing scams, firewall and network monitor. Family protection includes little ones, students, seniors and other dependents. VPN for up to five devices and you can trust them. They've got a 90% retention rate. For 25 years they've been doing it lightning fast and lightweight. Scans six times faster than competitors. I check it every day and uses 33% or 33 times less space on your hard drive than competitors. 24.7us based customer support for identity theft restoration webroot.com Carson 75% off for a limited time only with my exclusive code webroot.comcarson so for those of you who are saying that you know and they've been hinting Donald Trump might have something to do with Epstein, there's something. Why don't you release the files? Release the files, release files so Donald Trump's like, okay, whipped out the files. Now the Democrats are like, Epstein accuser, ghostwriter spills the goods. Virginia Giuffre called Donald Trump her hero, not a villain. Ghostwriter Amy Wallace, who co wrote Virginia Giuffre's posthumous memoir, Nobody's Girl, which is so sad. And, you know, we always forget her name and who she was. She was a person and this was her life. And she's no longer here. And a lot of sons of bees took advantage of her and ruined her and ruined her. Amy Wallace did an interview on CBS Sunday Morning, by the way, and here she is talking about Donald Trump and what a good man he is.

[Guest/Commentator]

Did she mention President Trump at all in your discussion? Oh, she absolutely did. I was in Australia in October, a month before, weeks before the presidential election. She was a huge Trump fan. Two reasons for that. One, she had met Trump on numerous occasions because she worked at Mar A Lago Spa in Florida, which he owns, and her father also worked there and knew Trump pretty well. So she was introduced to Trump. He was kind to her. The second reason she wanted Trump to be president is because he campaigned on releasing the Epstein files.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Guest/Commentator]

And she was excited about that. So, yes, we talked about Trump a lot as a crusader to release the Epstein files.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. You know who went to Epstein Island? Bill Clinton. Now Gore. Yeah, they did. They did. Al Gore. He liked to get massages. And there was one time he did a massage a few years ago, and he, he, he asked the masseuse to perform an act that she was not willing to do. You may recall that that was alleged. You betcha, you betcha. Let's go to. And I'll be interested to see whose names are in these files. George in California. George, welcome to the Rob Carson Show. What's on your mind today, my friend?

[Caller/Guest]

My names are not on the file. Okay.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Well, that's good, George. I didn't expect that of you.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah, guilt by association is the most primitive and lazy way to go about a prosecution.

[Rob Carson]

Of course.

[Caller/Guest]

And it shows how primitive and backward these untrained, unqualified amateur. Not even amateur, just wannabes are just trying to dislike Henpeck. And you know, anything that they try to. That anyone tries to go after the Clintons, and I still am. I have not changed my mind on what Donald Trump said when he said he wanted to put Hillary Clinton in prison. I hope he sticks to that. I didn't just let her get away with it on some kind of intimidation by, by this individual. Now, my understanding is Trump 86 him from Mar a Lago?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, he did.

[Caller/Guest]

For that kind of suspicion. He did on Sufficient. Now, I met Melvin Bell. I forgot who it was. Did he defend Patty Hearst?

[Rob Carson]

Brother, I have no idea.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah, I met Melvin Bell.

[Rob Carson]

I was in my diet. I think I was in diapers during that. No, I was in first grade when that happened.

[Caller/Guest]

Right.

[Guest/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

So that doesn't make me one of those people he defended just because I met the guy.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, exactly. Well, exactly, exactly. And, you know, I mean, you look.

[Caller/Guest]

At the hammering it. Man, I keep hammering it.

[Rob Carson]

Well, and listen, listen, it should be, if any. This is meant as a distraction. If you look at, you know, George Stephanopoulos went after the women that Bill Clinton victimized and they called them bimbo eruptions. Hillary Clinton was in on it. There were countless witnesses to this. Going into hotel rooms in Little Rock with state troopers guarding the door. You know, one woman was. It wasn't Kathleen, Willie. It was. I'm drawing a blank on her name. Said that Clinton had hurt her lip, bit her lip, and he said, just put a little ice on it.

[Caller/Guest]

You know, Can I just say one more thing real quick?

[Rob Carson]

Juanita Broderick, by the way. Thank you, Brian. Go ahead.

[Caller/Guest]

The appeal, the appeal for us to be Alphas, you know, that's asking us to be just an Alpha that cucks for women to get all the women. Is that, Is that, that's asking men to be cucks and like an Alpha?

[Rob Carson]

Is that what it is?

[Caller/Guest]

Just to get all the women? Okay, that's what he's asking us to do.

[Rob Carson]

You're talking about Elise Slotkin earlier in the show. Stop. Okay. Because we have a new, we have a new audience every 20 minutes.

[Caller/Guest]

Right?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Caller/Guest]

You were mentioning that lady who wants us to be alphas.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that's Elise Slotkin. She was talking to a group of veterans saying we men need to be alphas against Donald Trump and all that.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah, that's basically asking us to be a pimp and get all the chicks.

[Rob Carson]

I didn't take that from that, that comment. But, but I, but I do appreciate your phone call. No, to me, it was, to me, it was her saying to military veterans, hey, if we need you, you've served before. And then you've got this follow up with Elise Slotkin doing this PSA saying military members should disobey Donald Trump. So they're, they're doing everything they can to foment some sort of insurrection. And like I said earlier, they, they've been doing a de facto civil war with plausible Deniability for a while. And this is just the next step. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. I'll be listening to a little Rage against the Machine today.

[Caller/Guest]

If you.

[Rob Carson]

The gym today is the workout day. Had a busy, very, very busy wake. You know, this kind of buddy, Jasmine Crockett, who is dumb as a box of rocks without the. The rocks and bordering on not having the box. I'll leave that one alone. She's blaming Donald Trump for all the violence the Democrats are perpetrating, like an ICE protest.

[Guest/Commentator]

I believe that we all need to pay attention to Trump and how he acts. He is the cause of all that.

[Rob Carson]

She barely has enough intelligence to keep her breathing going.

[Guest/Commentator]

Confusion and the destruction that we have seen in politics, as far as I'm concerned, because it used to be we could disagree, and that was that. I disagree with.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it was until you started calling Donald Trump a Nazi and going after him a decade ago and then going after us and then censoring our speech and then committing acts of. Countless acts of violence.

[Guest/Commentator]

A lot of Republicans. But it does not necessarily turn violent. Ever since he's been introduced into politics, we have seen a consistent spike in the violence.

[Rob Carson]

You know, the amazing thing about the interweb is that things last forever.

[Guest/Commentator]

I disagree with a lot of Republicans, but it does not necessarily turn violent. I think you punch. I think you're okay with you. You okay with punching. I mean, like, this dude has to be knocked over the head, like, hard. But I literally have never said anything to invoke violence. We are not only going to punch you back, but we are going to knock you out. I just want to say that I have never promoted violence whatsoever. We are going to be in your face. We are going to be on your asses.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And by the way, the Democrats have been doing this for a decade.

[Caller/Guest]

I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be. People need to start taking to the streets.

[Guest/Commentator]

This is a dictator, you know, There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives.

[Rob Carson]

Enemies of the state. Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.

[Guest/Commentator]

Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless.

[Caller/Guest]

When they go low, we kick.

[Guest/Commentator]

How do you resist the temptation to run up and wring her neck?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Nothing like that has ever come from Republicans. Nothing like that has come from Donald Trump. Enough is enough. We're not stupid. But I'm telling you we're getting pretty bloody fed up with it. We've had just about enough of it. These idiotic Elon Musk trying to burn down Tesla dealerships summer of 2020, these violent anti ice protests that are being fomited by the Democrat Party intentionally to create violence. You're pushing it way far. And we're about done with it. And it's about time for homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews to say enough is enough. Let's take a break and come back. Last hour of the show right ahead. Brigitte Gabriel, one of our favorites, joins us in the next hour. Don't go anywhere. Over two centuries ago, it was England that taxed our tea. Now it's Brussels trying to regulate our companies under new European regulations. American businesses face crushing fines, forced disclosures and foreign red tape that kills jobs here at home. America's laws should be written in America, not Brussels. Reject European regulatory overreach and uphold Trump's trade deal paid for by Americans for limited government.