SNAP Fraud SCANDAL Exposed & Cal State Berkeley Implodes

Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: SNAP Fraud SCANDAL Exposed & Cal State Berkeley Implodes

Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Notable Guests: Brooke Rollins (Secretary of Agriculture), Aaron Von Natta (Daily Caller Associate Editor), Cash Patel, Doug Collins

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Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show dives into several provocative topics in American politics and culture. With humor and pointed commentary, Rob examines major stories such as the exposure of widespread SNAP (food stamp) fraud under the Biden administration, the implosion of progressive politics at UC Berkeley, border security, manufacturing, and generational shifts in political allegiance. The host is joined by notable guests who add depth and firsthand insights, particularly regarding government accountability and youth disillusionment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown & Political Gamesmanship

• Democrats’ strategies during shutdowns are called out: Rob recalls previous shutdowns (notably during the Obama administration) where memorials were closed and blames for suffering was assigned to Republicans as strategic posturing.
  • Rob mocks, “They literally had people on horseback, Capitol police or whatever, park police, whatever, on horseback on either end so people couldn’t walk on the sidewalk in front of it. That’s what d words for. Richard. The Democrats were in that shutdown...” (01:15)
• The most recent shutdown's political fallout highlighted, particularly how Democrats “exposed their flanks” and made their policy vulnerabilities visible.

2. Reviving American Manufacturing

• Contrasting Trump’s “can-do” approach with Obama's skepticism:
  • Obama is characterized as an “academic who’s never worked a day in his life,” dismissive of revitalizing U.S. manufacturing (02:30–05:00).
  • Rob and played clips underscore manufacturing’s decline under Democrats and its resurgence under Trump, with direct quotes from both presidents.
    • Trump: “During eight years of the last administration, America lost 10,000 factories and nearly 200,000 manufacturing jobs. In contrast, my administration added over half a million manufacturers.” (05:29–05:41)
  • “He said there was no chance... we could possibly bring back manufacturing... and Donald Trump said, oh, I think we can.” — Rob Carson (02:03)
  • The “magic wand” exchange is replayed – Trump’s position that leadership and negotiation matter, not academic naysaying.

3. Border Crisis and Fentanyl

• Biden's handling of the border is critiqued—Rob claims the crisis is deliberate to cultivate votes and import dependents.
  • Cartels, child/sex trafficking, and fentanyl deaths are spotlighted.
    • “Smugglers and cartels exploding, chaos of the border. Agents are being removed from the line…It’s the drug cartels who are flourishing” — Rob Carson (07:22–08:13)
  • Fentanyl as a Chinese-sourced problem is discussed with Cash Patel. Trump administration's crackdown via international agreements is contrasted with Biden’s alleged inaction.
    • Cash Patel details how precursor chemicals are being restricted: “This effectively shuts off all of the chemicals and ingredients used to make fentanyl. No other president has done this.” (10:31)
• Rob jests about the “sweet, sweet drug boat explosion porn” in reference to U.S. interdictions and EU complaints, with Marco Rubio’s unapologetic defense:
  • Rubio: “The United States is under attack from organized criminal narco terrorists.... The president’s job is to protect the United States from threats against the United States. And that is what he’s doing in this operation.” (11:21–12:06)

4. SNAP (Food Stamp) Fraud Scandal

• Massive fraud exposed:
  • Post-shutdown, Rob and Secretary Brooke Rollins deep-dive into SNAP benefits’ dramatic expansion and subsequent fraud under Biden.
    • Rollins: “Half a million people getting benefits two times under the same name.... 5,000 dead people. 80% of the able-bodied Americans ... they can work. And they choose not to work, of course, because they’re getting significant benefits from the taxpayer.” (16:11–16:51)
  • 29 states complied with a federal audit; the others (mostly Democrat) did not and face litigation (16:06–18:38).
  • Rob shares his firsthand SNAP experience, noting that fraud is common, especially at the beginning of the month, and that “poor people eating better than you; you’re just like, just above poor.” (17:19)
  • Rollins promises reforms and crackdown, with big announcements pending (16:51–17:19).

5. Berkeley Implosion—Free Speech and Campus Chaos

• Campus unrest and suppression of conservative voices is dissected:
  • Rob and Aaron Von Natta (Daily Caller) critique university inaction as campus protests against conservative events intensify.
  • Harmeet Dhillon (quoted by Brooke Rollins) raises the specter of civil rights conspiracy claims against UC Berkeley:
    • “To the extent Berkeley was ... aware of and let this happen, that could be a civil rights conspiracy. They have a history of it.” (33:29)
  • Bombshell connection: The UC Berkeley chief of police, overseeing the chaotic response, previously managed January 6th intel for U.S. Capitol Police (34:24–34:59).
  • Rob: “They actually allowed the supposed free speech zone in the entranceway to the event. So they had to go to a phalanx of violent protesters to get in the building. That’s conspiracy.” (33:58–34:25)

6. Disaffection of Traditional Democrat Voters and Generational Shifts

• The 'Base' is leaving:
  • Viral audio clip of a self-described long-term progressive base voter declaring, “I am your base, and I’m done.” — Brooke Rollins (21:28)
  • Rob mocks the narrowing of the Democrat base to “white, liberal, cul-de-sac dwelling, crazy cat lady and their emasculated husbands … and a lot of younger women with gauged ears and purple hair.” (21:46)
• Gen Z & Shifting Loyalties:
  • Aaron Von Natta joins for a candid conversation about Gen Z’s alienation, mental health, and growing rejection of identity politics.
    • Von Natta: “There’s just a lot of disaffected people, especially in… Gen Z, younger generations, a lot of people are disaffected…culture, social contagions… But I think that’s actually kind of on the decrease now.” (24:01–24:40)
  • Rob’s reflects on practical education and trade skills: “I know people … we’ve been told that it’s better to be in a cubicle … but there is real satisfaction in jobs that build things and require skills.” (27:27–28:08)
  • Discussion concludes on the need for Republicans to more aggressively address affordability and debt issues for young Americans.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On manufacturing:
  • “Barack Obama was an academic who’s never worked a day in his life ... He never did anything. And he said that ... there was no chance ... to bring back manufacturing.” – Rob Carson (02:03)
  • “During eight years of the last administration, America lost 10,000 factories and nearly 200,000 manufacturing jobs. In contrast, my administration added over half a million manufacturers.” – Donald Trump (05:29–05:41)
• On border and fentanyl:
  • “You ever hear Joe Biden say the word fentanyl? Did you ever talk about the scourge of fentanyl killing hundreds of thousands of Americans? Not one time in it.” – Rob Carson (10:03)
  • “This effectively shuts off all ... chemicals and ingredients used to make fentanyl. No other president has done this.” – Cash Patel (10:31)
• On SNAP fraud:
  • “Half a million people getting benefits two times under the same name ... 5,000 dead people” – Brooke Rollins (16:36–16:45)
• On Democrat base defecting:
  • “I am your base and I’m done.” – Brooke Rollins (as viral audio) (21:28)
• On generational disaffection:
  • “Over 50% of liberal white women under 30 have a mental health issue. They are most prone to social contagion.” – Rob Carson (22:36)
  • “There’s a lot of disaffected people … cultural, social contagions. … But I think that’s actually on the decrease now.” – Aaron Von Natta (24:01–24:40)
• On free speech at Berkeley:
  • “They actually allowed the supposed free speech zone in the entranceway to the event. So they had to go to a phalanx of violent protesters to get in the building. That’s conspiracy.” – Rob Carson (33:58–34:25)
  • “UC Berkeley, top cop in charge of campus chaos, once oversaw botched Jan6 Intel.” – Aaron Von Natta (34:56)

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Important Timestamps

| Topic/Segment | Speaker(s) | Timestamp | |----------------------------------|---------------------------|---------------| | Shutdown & Obama critique | Rob Carson | 00:47–04:56 | | Manufacturing revival debate | Carson, Trump, guests | 03:35–06:11 | | Border, Fentanyl, Cartels | Carson, Cash Patel, Rollins, Rubio | 06:28–12:06 | | SNAP fraud exposed | Carson, Brooke Rollins | 12:06–18:48 | | Generational/“base” defection | Carson, Rollins, Von Natta| 21:28–24:40 | | Generational & education insights| Carson, Von Natta | 25:32–28:49 | | Free speech/Berkeley chaos | Carson, Von Natta, Rollins| 32:16–34:59 | | Shutdown resolution & closing | Carson, Von Natta | 35:05–36:59 |

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Tone, Style, and Takeaways

Rob Carson delivers the show with his trademark blend of sarcasm, populist humor, and conservative outrage. He challenges Democratic policies and academic elitism, celebrates tangible achievement (like curbing SNAP fraud), and relates personally to economic struggles. Guest input provides both validation and occasionally nuance, particularly around cultural and generational divides.

This episode is densely packed with political commentary, direct attacks on progressive leadership, and spirited defenses of Trump-era policy reversals. It captures both the populist mood among many conservative listeners and a degree of generational anxiety over America’s cultural and economic future.

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For listeners who missed the show:
Expect a brisk, satirical, but deeply partisan tour through recent political scandals, a rare candid look inside federal benefit fraud, and commentary on campus culture wars that epitomize American divisions in 2025.

Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[Marco Rubio]

Hold it now.

[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the most.

[Donald Trump]

Interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world wide web.

[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show. Our number two. It is the Thursday T minus one day until Friday. And boy, I tell you what, I'm just in a good mood with the collapse of the Democrats, their attempt to extort us, and it didn't work this time. I remember the last shut down the Obama administration when they used it to shut down The World War II Memorial and Punish veterans. And I remember because I lived in Washington D.C. at the time and they shut down the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and they actually had more people working to keep it shut than would have worked had they closed it. They literally had people on horseback, Capitol police or whatever, park police, whatever, on horseback on either end so people couldn't walk on the sidewalk in front of it. That's what d words for. Richard. The Democrats were in that shutdown and they had hundreds and thousands of posters printed up blaming the shutdown on the Republicans and reveling in the suffering that it caused. So they play one side or the other of this and this time we had Republicans in charge and a president in charge who's gone through hell to get here and do what he said he was going to do. And that is make the country a much better place to be. Bring back lots of manufacturing to a country that Barack Obama said could not be brought back. Barack Obama, because you know, and you know why? Do you know why? Because Barack Obama was an academic who's never worked a day in his life. He never had a callus. He might have had a callus on one hand for a while when he was a teenager, but he doesn't have a callus on his hands. He's never had a callus on his hands. He never did anything. And he said that there, there was no chance, there was no possibility that we could possibly bring back manufacturing into America. And Donald Trump said, oh, I think we can. I think we can, actually. And then, of course, well, here, I'll just give you a little montage. Here's Barack Obama. Barack Obama, he said that we certainly could not do anything about manufacturing. It was gone. It was gone. Now, realize that there were a number of Democrat policies that drove manufacturing out of our country. It got to the point where you didn't see Made in America on anything. Right? Am I right? Most of the stuff you order from Amazon or whatever says Made in China, made in Taiwan on it, whatnot. We used to be. Look for the union label. It used to be Made in America meant something. But the Democrat Party said, you know what, now we're going to ship this overseas. We're going to become a service economy. And how well did that work for us? And they sent people to go get worthless piece of crap degrees at universities, work in cubicles, if they could get a job with their piece of crap degrees and then work half of their lives to pay off the student loans. How well did that work for those.

[Unknown Conservative Commentator]

Folks who've lost their job right now because a plant went down to Mexico? You know, that isn't going to make you feel better.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, US Policy did that.

[Unknown Conservative Commentator]

And so what we have to do is to make sure that folks are trained for the jobs that are coming in now. Because some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back.

[Rob Carson]

Really.

[Unknown Conservative Commentator]

And when somebody says, you know, this.

[Rob Carson]

Is a man who's never worked. This is a man who's never built anything. He sat around in his privileged high school, his Punahou school, raised by white grandparents and smoked weed all day. Never built anything, never did anything. He's like, you know, George Bush said there are jobs Americans won't do. He was full of crap, too. Because we will do any job. We've always done any job. That's how we got to be this country. That's why we have the tallest buildings. Well, except for the burj Dubai, you know, they got us on that. But we started it all. We started it all because we did the dirty work. People still do the dirty work. People still shovel crap. People still plant seeds and till fields and feed cattle and pigs so they can keep you fed. We still do the dirty work. We're proud to do the dirty work. We like to build things. There's no shame in it. There's no shame in not having a PhD and MD and MBA and all that crap.

[Unknown Conservative Commentator]

Like the person you just mentioned, who I'm not going to advertise for. He's talking about Trump, that he's going to bring all these jobs back. Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What are you going to do? Listen, there's. There's no answer to it.

[Rob Carson]

What are you going to do? What are you going to do? I've never done anything in my life. What are you going to do?

[Unknown Conservative Commentator]

He just says, well, I'm going. I'm going to negotiate a better deal. Well, how. What. How exactly are.

[Rob Carson]

You don't know that because you've never done anything outside of the faculty lounge to negotiate that.

[Unknown Conservative Commentator]

What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is he doesn't have an answer.

[Donald Trump]

During eight years of the last administration, America lost 10,000 factories and nearly 200,000 manufacturing jobs.

[Rob Carson]

Think of that.

[Donald Trump]

In contrast, my administration added over half a million manufacturers.

[Rob Carson]

That's just in the first administration jobs.

[Donald Trump]

Was up to actually 701,000 jobs before the plague came in.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Before the Democrat Party of the deep state unleashed a virus we paid for.

[Donald Trump]

From China and if you remember, then.

[Rob Carson]

Shut down the economy on purpose.

[Donald Trump]

President Obama, you need a magic wand. No, you don't. We need manufacturing jobs. He said, you won't have any more manufacturing jobs. You need a magic wand. He was wrong about that.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah. Because we got $18 trillion in new manufacturing jobs coming into the United States of America. Holy cow. People going to be building stuff. So it's remarkable. I guess he did have a magic wand. They also said that the border couldn't be fixed. Donald Trump. It took a month.

[Brooke Rollins]

Republicans keep saying Biden doesn't need Congress. He can stop what's happening at the border all by himself. Can you fact check that for us? Because we here all know that's not true.

[Rob Carson]

Republicans have been saying, largely wrongly. Right. Because saying that the President can close the border unilaterally on his own. President actually doesn't have the authority under. Yeah, he does.

[Brooke Rollins]

There's only so much President Biden can do with executive action, and he did try to do whatever he could. They actually are doing everything they can.

[Aaron Von Natta]

The President's hands are.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, actually, this is what Joe Biden did with the southern border. We have rescinded so many Trump immigration.

[Cash Patel]

Policies, it would take so much time to list them.

[Brooke Rollins]

There have been more than 1 million migrant encounters since October 1, when our fiscal year began. It is the earliest this milestone has ever been reached.

[Rob Carson]

It's a mess that this administration created from day one. Smugglers and cartels exploding, chaos of the border. Agents are being removed from the line. They're having to process, they're having to do all the administrative work. And who is it that's, you know, flourishing from this? It's the drug cartels. Cartel gunmen stroll along the riverbank armed with rifles. It's here where cartel gunmen have repeated. Yeah, you remember that. You remember sitting here screaming at the sky, going, when is somebody going to do stop this? What? They're doing the southern border desperately. And then having them tell you, oh, there's nothing to see here. Seeing crime go through the ceiling. See 300 plus thousand children trafficked across the southern border for sex and labor. Young women trafficked across the southern border. Trinidad, you know, in New York City, in Colorado. I mean, I could go on and on. Illegals given, you know, massive amounts of benefits so they'll vote Democrat. Hundreds of thousands of young people killed by fentanyl. See a single psa. We didn't see a single PSA for fentanyl when Joe Biden was the president. It's like they didn't even give a flying crap. Didn't even give a flying crap about all the kids who were dying. There's a real good chance you probably know a family that had somebody die of fentanyl poisoning. Murder by China and Venezuela, more so than you actually know somebody who died of COVID That's, that's what happened with me. That's what your. That's what your Democrat Party did. And guess what? Hell is here. I said that hell was coming and Trump was bringing it with him. Well, hell is here for the Democrats. This is Cash Patel, because isn't it amazing what happens when you do something?

[Cash Patel]

This is all thanks to President Trump's brave leadership to engage directly with President.

[Rob Carson]

They're cutting off fentanyl. It's not going to be here anymore.

[Cash Patel]

Xi Jinping and make one of the pillars of his administration defeating the plague of fentanyl and illegal narcotics. And that set in motion the Attorney General to call her counterpart and designate the FBI and myself as the lead to engage and follow up with President Trump's historic engagement with President.

[Rob Carson]

Isn't it amazing what you do when you to have a president who takes $25 million from the Chinese Communist Party through 29 LLCs and nine family members, and then allows a Chinese spy balloon to fly over our country for a week, stopping over our most precious military installations while also selling the Chinese Communist Party land near our military bases. Isn't that weird?

[Cash Patel]

Just a few weeks ago in Korea and what was accomplished when I went to Beijing was an actual Full out agreement to concretely adhere to the. To the notion that we will not allow fentanyl to pour into the United States of America. But you got to break that down. What does that mean? We know the Mexican drug traffickers are made.

[Rob Carson]

You ever hear Joe Biden say the word fentanyl? Did you ever talk about the scourge of fentanyl killing hundreds of thousands of Americans? Not one time in it.

[Cash Patel]

But where are they getting the ingredients? The fentanyl precursors are distributed by and through companies in China. And what they have now done is pursuant to our agreement where we ask for all 13 fentanyl precursors to be designated and fully restricted, and a further seven chemicals to be restricted as well.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Cash Patel]

This effectively shuts off all of the chemicals and ingredients used to make fentanyl. No other president has done this, thanks to the Department of Justice and the FBI.

[Rob Carson]

You, you fentanyl addicts, you might want to get some sort of countermeasures and get off that stuff because can be hard to come by here pretty quick. And then, then there's Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio ended up being the greatest Secretary of state of all time. And the EU was all. Because there are a lot of people who are making a lot of money off of the illegal drug trafficking. I'll just say they're probably politicians in America. We heard that from Blaine Holt yesterday. There are people all over the world, politicians who are pocketing money from the drug cartels. And the EU is getting all butthurt because we're blowing up drug boats. And the Democrat Party's getting all upset because we're blowing up drug boats. And the eu, like Germany, not gonna share their intelligence with us anymore while we're blowing up the drug boats. And Marco Rubio says, yeah, you know what? Who cares?

[Marco Rubio]

I don't think that the European Union gets to determine what international law certainly don't get to determine is how the United States defends its national security, the United States is under attack from organized criminal narco terrorists.

[Rob Carson]

I love watching that sweet, sweet drug.

[Marco Rubio]

Boat explosion porn in our hemisphere.

[Rob Carson]

It's like the antifa beat down porn. I love that too. Man.

[Marco Rubio]

Responding. In our country, I do find it interesting that all these countries want us to send and supply, for example, nuclear capable Tomahawk missiles to defend Europe. But when the United States States positions aircraft carriers in our hemisphere where we live, somehow that's a problem. So I would say that the United States is in. This president has made very clear his job is to protect the United States from threats against the United States. And that is what he's doing in this operation.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Now, coming up, we got some great news on SNAP benefits. You know, this is a. It's an important service. I have shared with you that I had to use it a few years ago. Was ashamed to admit it, but it has been abused like you wouldn't believe. And, and we have an administration that's going to do something about that abuse. I'm going to share it on the other side. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Donald Trump]

The media and our friends in the Democrat Party kept saying we needed new legislation. We must have legislation to secure the border. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, baby. We just needed somebody to do something because we had a man with pudding for brains who was installed as the president after a very questionable election. Yeah, he got 81 million votes. Sure he did. You bet you, you bet. You just keep. No, he didn't. You. That's disinformation. Oh, really? Okay, well, I can't question anything. No, it's disinformation. Okay, sure. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. I want to talk about food stamp fraud here in a second. I'm going to be out on Friday near Ballmer in a place called Eldersburg, Maryland, this Saturday night. If you are a WCBM listener, our anchor station, you might consider coming out because this is gonna be fun. I don't get out much. It's a salute to service golf tournament. It's an indoor golf tournament and it's in a big shop that has china and glassware. No, I'm just kidding. It's actually the indoor golf tournament. It's like virtual golf kind of thing. And then they're going to be doing an 80s cover band later in the evening. Oh, my God. And. And I've been told I might even be able to sing back our vocals on a couple songs. So. It's going to get nuts. It's going to get crazy. It is at Happy Hubs. Happy Hubs Hubz on Liberty Road in Sykesville, Maryland. Sykesville, Maryland. So if you want to come and see me, it's on my social media or you can go, I guess, to, you know, Happy Hubs H, U B Z. But I'm going to be there Saturday night and we're raising money, veterans, charities, and there's this band is called Weird Science. I think it's going to be, it's going to be really fun. It's going to be really fun. I don't get out. Like I said, I don't get out much. And if you need a dd, I'll take care of you because I don't drink any more of it. But I'm going to be there. Deplorabell is going to be there.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Whoa.

[Rob Carson]

Deplorabell is awesome. So I don't know if you knew this, but Joe Biden, when he was the president, somebody signed off on increasing SNAP benefits 40%. Because you see, they brought 20 million people over the over border illegally and they drew them in with free benefits and free insurance and all of that stuff because the Democrat party is losing voters in people places like New York and California because they make those states awful places to live in. So they got to replace them with the bodies of people coming across the southern border, regardless of whether they have disease or criminal record, because that's how evil the Democrat party is. And here is Brooke Rollins. She's the Secretary of Agriculture. And one of the things that this government shutdown revealed, as I like to say, the Democrats, they expose their flanks so we can kick their butts. You've heard me say that before. Well, they, they did this. They, they exposed their flank with the government shutdown and exposed the fact that SNAP benefits are a massive fraud campaign.

[Brooke Rollins]

But I do think what the Democrats did not include in their calculation in their insane government shutdown was the fact that this spotlight was going to be shined upon one of their favorite government welfare programs that under Joe Biden increased the 40% where all that money went trying to buy elections. We're not 100% sure, but we're rolling it back.

[Rob Carson]

Of course it was now on day. I know that because I'm not stupid.

[Brooke Rollins]

1 Back in February for me, we sent a letter to every governor saying, send us your SNAP data.

[Rob Carson]

Now. Which governments complied? Were they the Republicans or the Democrats?

[Brooke Rollins]

All of this money that the federal government, the taxpayers are paying for food stamps, we don't even know where it goes, what happens, what they're doing with it. And we said no more. So 29 states complied and 20 other, you know, 20 plus others did not. And we're suing. We're in a litigation right now. But of the 29 that complied, what we have found is staggering. Half a million people getting benefits two times under the same name.

[Rob Carson]

They're eating better than you. Poor people eating better than you. And you're, you're just like just above poor.

[Brooke Rollins]

5,000 dead people. 80% of the.

[Rob Carson]

I didn't realize dead people could put.

[Brooke Rollins]

Away so much food bodied Americans, meaning.

[Rob Carson]

They can work, I guess they can vote if they're Democrats.

[Brooke Rollins]

So, you know, they don't have small children at home, they're not taking care of an elderly parent. They can work. And they choose not to work, of course, because they're getting significant benefits from the taxpayer. So this light, Laura, that has now been shined on what is perhaps one of the most corrupt, dysfunctional programs in American history, that we are working now, very big announcements coming next week on this. We are cracking down. We now have a plan to fix it and we're really, really excited.

[Rob Carson]

I think that's pretty cool. Yeah, I told you my story. You know, I had to get the old SNAP benefits. I was, I was embarrassed and humiliated because I couldn't find a job and, you know, radio for some reason decided I couldn't do talk radio for a while. I don't know. The deal is, you know, there's some people like Bill, a guy named Bill I know decided he didn't want me to work in talk radio anymore, and so I had to resort to it. And I'll tell you, we ate better than we did before because before you got to really watch what you eat. Now, I'm not saying I think we got 600amonth. 600amonth, family four. But there. And I discovered when you go to like Sam's Club or whatever or Costco, the people who have the most full carts at the beginning of the month, like the first day of the month, you go in there and there are people who have a, who have a caravan of carts. And you can always tell they're the ones with the snap cards. The ones just had their snap cards and they don't care what it is. Like, oh, crab legs. Oh, let's throw crab legs in there. Let's throw steak in there. Meanwhile, I'm over here going, where's the yellow sticker from? The sandwiches are about to go bad. And they pull up there and they're caravan and they. $600 worth of groceries and oh my God, it was so funny. But yeah, there's a lot of fraud.

[Brooke Rollins]

And 20 other, you know, 20 plus others did not. And we're suing. We're in a litigation right now.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, the, the states that didn't cooperate and share where the SNAP benefits are going are all Democrat states.

[Brooke Rollins]

But of the 29 that complied, what we have found is staggering. Half a million people.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah. Like I said, half a million people should not be on it. And they're going to fix it. Isn't it amazing what happens when you do something? When you do something. Here's Doug Collins. He's the VA secretary. And look what he's done already to.

[Doug Collins]

The VA clot to get started. The president rightfully noted the accomplishments of this administration. What we're doing, I want to put that disability claim in perspective, Mary. That's the lowest level in five years. Let me put the real numbers to it. When I showed up and we showed up in Washington with the president, it was over 260,000 in backlog of 125 days or longer. That number is now under 114.

[Rob Carson]

There's only been nine months.

[Doug Collins]

We had over 100, over a million pending cases. Those are under 600,000 now. We just put the emphasis where it needed to be and that made the disability backlog go down. That means that veterans are getting their services quicker, their answers quicker, so they can move on with their life. And where we're headed next is reforming into our vha, our medical facilities, making sure we have a streamlined approach.

[Rob Carson]

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[Brooke Rollins]

I'm done. I'm done. I am your base. I have voted for Democrats for 40 years. I am a lesbian with a black, disabled, non binary child and I worked in an abortion clinic. I am your base and I'm done.

[Rob Carson]

That is the base of the Democrat party and they are leaving after this shutdown. They are leaving after. That's kind of narrowing things down a little bit. It just kind of. If that's the base, and I've said that the Democrat party, the base, like the Kamala voter, is white, liberal, cul de sac dwelling, crazy cat lady and their emasculated husbands or just men in their lives. They show up at no Kings protest. I'm very right about this. And of course, a lot of younger women with gauged ears and purple hair. Here to discuss this and other things is Aaron Von Nada, associate editor at the Daily Caller. Aaron, how are you on this glorious Thursday?

[Aaron Von Natta]

I'm doing well, Rob, but I will push back just a little bit because I'm a young woman and I'm not, I'm not crazy. So we're not.

[Rob Carson]

I know, but, but I'm talking about, I'm talking about young. Like for instance, we just saw a new Gallup survey. 40% of US women ages 18 to 29 want to move into another country. Country. These are young liberal women. They are the ones who I, I also read a study last week. Over 50% of liberal white women under 30 have a mental health issue. They are most prone to social contagion. The opposite can be said of conservative women. Right, Aaron?

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yes. No, I've seen those studies too. It, it's, it's incredibly sad, honestly. But I think that is, is just indicative of their worldview.

[Rob Carson]

It is. And they, like I said, they're generally more subject to social contagion. We are now discovering, which we all knew the, the transgender nonsense was a social contagion. We've seen the rate of people claiming to be non binary and transgender drop by 50, 60% in the last couple of years. But the, the federal government, the deep state took advantage of people who had been ostracized and alienated Covid and implanted this seed. And you know, so for many young women, liberal young women, they're lost, they're confused and they really need help. Not a reinforcement of the falsehoods they've been fed.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Right. And you're also seeing some of that among young men too. There's some polls showing that Mom, Daddy is actually gaining support or had support among that cohort too. And I think there's just a lot of disaffected people, especially in like, you know, I'm Gen Z, but Gen Z, younger generations, a lot of people are disaffected. You know, they're worried about. There's a lot of economic reasons, a lot of factors there. But, and then there's also just a lot of the cultural, social contagions that you noted. Non binary, all that's. But I think that's actually kind of on the, on the decrease now.

[Rob Carson]

It is, it is, it is. You know, I've got a daughter who's 20 years old. And you know, my generation, Generation X, we were the ones who went to the keggers and we partied and we, you know, we were, you know, we smoked in bars, you know, and all of this. And we slept around, I'll be honest. And I think that a lot of Gen zers, like my daughter, my daughter's a liberal. She's a liberal, but you know what? She doesn't smoke, she doesn't drink, never had a token of bong, and she doesn't curse, of all things around me, which was a surprise, Aaron, to be quite honest. But, but I know a lot of younger people who are, who are beginning to recognize that masculinity isn't toxic, that you shouldn't hate yourself because you're a woman and you're feminine and, and maybe we were wrong about partying and sleeping around.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yeah, I think, I think there is probably a lot of resentment in the younger generations towards, and this is on both the left and the right. I've seen it online, especially a lot of anger against, you know, the boomers, specifically with regards to not being able to afford a home.

[Rob Carson]

Boom.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yes, I think that that was a major factor in these recent elections. And there are a lot of reasons why Republicans lost. But I think there was actually Politico did an interview with a Trump, like a former White House insider, Trump advisor. I'm blanking on his name, but he was like, yeah, Republicans lost because they didn't talk about afford enough, especially in races.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I agree to some degree on that, Aaron, but I don't think that the victories on last Tuesday were as resounding as you think they are. But I do agree with you on the affordability. And I remember when I was, you know, when I was young, when I was in my 20s, they called Gen X slackers. And I resented that because I bust. I have, I've never had more than, you know, two weeks of vacation. I never had two weeks of vacation in a row. And it's been a very long time. But, you know, when we were graduating in the late 80s, early 90s, we were graduating with better prospects, particularly the mid-90s with the boom of the dot com boom and whatnot. But then the last few years, home prices have doubled, interest rates have tripled, and college degrees are worthless and people are graduating with a half a lifetime of debt. So I don't blame you. And I think we need to focus on that. And I think we're going to get, I think we're going to get there. Aaron?

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yeah, the debt issue is huge. And I know there are people that are just saddled with thousands and thousands of dollars in debt. And, you know, there is definitely an element of personal responsibility there. But you also kind of have to.

[Rob Carson]

Just look at how you're, you're, you're also sold a bill of goods with these degrees, and then you end up just being indoctrinated with no, with no, no skills whatsoever. I saw there's a, there's a school near Kansas City, City where they're giving degrees in fixing up classic cars and young men and women are graduating making 100k. And I got it. I know people who, you know, we've been told that it's better to be in a cubicle or, you know, whatever and not build stuff. There's nothing satisfying about it. But there is real satisfaction in jobs that build things and require skills like that, you know, for sure.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yeah. And I think that the educational landscape is changing, especially after Covid. And I think people are now looking towards other avenues of how to get educated or how to educate their children and are seeing that there are different paths available from just the traditional college route. Which is not to say that going to college is bad. You still. No, especially, especially I think among conservatives, you need people to get those degrees and get in those, these institutions that, you know, in academia and the media. So that, that's definitely still important. But, yeah, I mean, the trades, you know, whether it's, I mean, you can make a lot of money in the trades and make.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God. Yes. I had a guy who had an MBA and he came out and he just wrapped my fireplace mantle in oak and then did a beam. And I was just talking to him and I said, why did you. This is because I've always liked doing this. I got a job and I found it to be very unsatisfying accounting. I love this. This is what I love. And the guy makes a buttload of money. Aaron, let me ask you this. Can you hold on to the other side of the break because I want your thoughts as a Gen Z or recent college graduate on Berkeley on what happened the other night during the TPUSA event. I'd also like your thoughts on the shutdown, the resolution of the shutdown yesterday. Could you hold on through the break and continue with this conversation? Yeah, we'll do Aaron Von, associate editor of the Daily Caller on the phone. We'll be back in a second. This is the Rob Carson here show more with Aaron Von Nada, the associate editor of the Daily Caller and all around awesome Gen Z influencer and conservative in one second. You know, cyber crime spikes during the holidays. They call it Black Friday because American businesses begin to operate in the black and the fourth quarter, they require and and rely on us happy little Christians going out and buying presents for everybody and being generous and what not. And cyber criminals know that. They know that you are benevolent and you are kind and you are giving and they take advantage of you and they do phishing scams and they do fake emails and they do brands offering holiday deals or shipping updates, fake shipping notifications, fake e mail commerce sites and social media stores, fraudulent websites, social media ads. And sometimes you get suckered in. Well, not if you have Webroot Total Protection. Yeah, I am hit with these all the time hit with these messages, you know, you need to update your credit card information or you know, here's a great deal, whatever and, or this. You know, there's a clothing store that I ordered stuff from, piece of crap. If you want to read about it, read my social media. But with Webroot Total Protection you get real antivirus protection about emergency threats like malware, ransomware, Phishing scams protects your family, including students and seniors up to a million dollars in expense reimbursement for stolen funds and out of pocket costs due to identity theft. I've had that done at least once. 24 hour US based customer support for identity theft restoration. No annoying pop ups. Customers love webroot for the last 25 years, 90% retention rate. I love them. I got webroot for this computer, my phone and my home computer because I was getting hammered on all of them. Go to webroot.com Carson Are you ready? 60% off. What? What? Yeah. Webroot.com Carson 60% off. This is an amazing product. When you see the price, you'll go no freaking way. But it is a remarkable product. I cannot endorse it. More people 60% off. Webroot.com Carson so Berkeley Aaron Absolutely unaccept. This cannot continue. We've seen this gradual march of totalitarianism from, you know, just, you know, protesting conservatives like Ann Coulter to declaring that conservative speech is violence to what happened at at Berkeley. And it sounds like Harmeet Dhillon has done with it. What do you think?

[Aaron Von Natta]

Well, I, some action needs to be taken against these universities because they aren't going to do anything to protect their students. I mean I was just seeing this article on Fox News Digital and they, they had reached out to the university and a spokesperson told them they're like, well it did happen on campus grounds. And then, I mean they didn't really say anything else, but kind of the implication there is not our problem.

[Rob Carson]

Well, it is, it is becoming a real problem. Go ahead. Sorry.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yeah, and it's ridiculous that every time an event like this at one of these campuses happens and this, I mean we've seen, you know, in the past, there's been a couple of other preceding events where the police or a bomb squad was called in because of threats or suspicious objects. And unfortunately it's a, it's a scary time I think, especially if you're a concern conservative student on these campuses or Jewish time more than ever where I think people need to speak out and not take this.

[Rob Carson]

Here is Harbeet Dillon talking about it. What could potential penalty look like for UC Berkeley?

[Brooke Rollins]

Well, look, to the extent that Berkeley was wink, wink, nudge, nudge aware of and let this happen, that could be a civil rights conspiracy. They have a history of it. So frankly, they're already starting in a hole. The police could be responsible for their both sides ism where they actually arrested a victim of violence last night and then ticketed everybody and let them all go. Comically, one of the people who was arrested is named Jihad. That's very interesting.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. You know, they're looking at conspiracy charges because they had allowed this before and a lot of Camp High what they do, they will protect liberal speakers, although they don't generally need protection, but they will stand down when it comes to conservatives. And they actually allowed the supposed free speech zone in the entrance way to the event. So they had to go to a phalanx of violent protesters to get in the building. That's conspiracy. Aaron.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yeah, I mean obviously there weren't adequate security protection set up. But something interesting about this whole fiasco. We actually just put an article about this last Night. But they're the UC Berkeley chief of police who, you know, was. Oversaw campus security, was apparently also involved in the U.S. capitol Police's intelligence operations during January 6th.

[Rob Carson]

What?

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yeah. So that's an article on our site.

[Rob Carson]

Right now on Daily Caller.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yep. UC Berkeley, top cop in charge of campus chaos, once oversaw botched Jan6 Intel.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God. That is blockbuster. This is why I check out the Daily Caller every day. Oh, my God, this is so cool. Cool. That is fantastic. Final thoughts. Got about another minute. What do you think about this. This shutdown? The. The Republican Party, and I've been around longer than you, girl, but. But the Republican Party finally showed some stones and did not capitulate on the. On the, you know, the. The threats from Democrats and the extortion attempt. What are your thoughts?

[Aaron Von Natta]

You know, it seems to me that both sides side kind of didn't really get what they wanted out of it.

[Rob Carson]

Okay, okay.

[Aaron Von Natta]

The base of the Democrats, progressives are very, very angry. And. Are you trying to oust Chuck Schumer? But then also, you know, our senior editor, Amber Duke, actually pointed this out in her newsletter how the shutdown deal, you know, it sort of doesn't really enable them to fire all these thousands of bureaucrats. Yeah, that Russ Vaught, the OMB director, really wanted to do.

[Cash Patel]

So.

[Aaron Von Natta]

I mean, it definitely could have been worse.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Aaron Von Natta]

It's good that we finally got this resolved, but I still think Republicans are kind of, like, not being as aggressive as they need to be.

[Rob Carson]

Well, it is a process, not an event, Aaron. That's the way it is. Aaron, I appreciate you. Thank you for being on the show today. I've enjoyed the conversation. Where can people see you on social media? Obviously, daily calls, but where else can people find your glorious work?

[Aaron Von Natta]

Yeah, definitely Twitter. I write occasionally, but I'm mostly editing and working with our other. Other reporters now. But, yeah, definitely check out our site, Become a Patriot subscriber. We just launched our substack recently. It's called State of the Day. So you can go there for all, you know, exclusive content and all of our newsletters. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Excellent. Great to talk to you. Best of you. And if I don't talk to you before Thanksgiving, a very blessed Thanksgiving to you and yours.

[Aaron Von Natta]

Okay, thank you. You as well, Rob. Thanks.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is not an EV, and it never will be. This song is called 1000 Horsepower by Godsmack. I had a story about an EV manufacturer going out of business. You know, I want Tesla to stick around. They make pretty cool cars. They do. They make cars cool. Even if they are, you know, even if they are electric. They make cool cars. But there's a lot of other posers out there that put electric motors in. Like the Mustang, the Ford Mustang. Oh my God, the Ford Mustang. What a piece of crap. That is the new Ford Mustang ev. It looks like a, it looks like a crossover. I mean, oh my God, what a mistake. And of course, the, the F150 lightning, if you have one. Good luck selling it. Good, good luck selling it because, you know, it's a, it's a, it's an EV pickup truck. I want to play a song parody for you because Donald Trump is talking about sending a lot of people two thousand dollar checks with this, this surplus coming in from the, from the tariffs. So just Gossip did this for us and you'll only hear it on the Rob Carson show.

[Donald Trump]

The tariff tariffs are really something much better than I planned.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it's pretty big.

[Donald Trump]

So I'll tell you something.

[Rob Carson]

What's that?

[Donald Trump]

I'm sending out to Grand.

[Rob Carson]

What?

[Donald Trump]

I'm sending out to gr. I'm sending out to Grand.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, sure, why not?

[Donald Trump]

And when I send it, I'll feel happy inside. It gives your president real joy. I can't hide. I can't hide. I can't hide.

[Rob Carson]

This is pretty tight.

[Donald Trump]

The terrorists have brought in billions, enough to beat the bed, pay off the debt. Soon it could reach the trillions. I'm sending you to Grand. You're gonna get too grand. You're gonna get too grand. I'm sending out two grand.

[Rob Carson]

Try to do a little background vocals there. I need a little work on the Beatles. I haven't done some Beatles in a while. But anyway, there he is. He's talking about sending two grand for everybody for the, the tariffs. The Dow was 48 grand over a 48 grand all time record. Everybody was convinced that, you know, the tariffs are going to destroy everything. But here's here, here, just explain it to you, make it easy for you to understand. We were getting screwed. We were getting bent over and, you know, the world was having their way with us. Now if you're a Democrat, you know, you're cool with it. But no, not the rest of us. Not, not too crazy about that. So Donald Trump said, we're gonna give it right back to you. And then I'm gonna use tariffs to, you know, I don't know, bring people peace to the Middle east and bring peace between, you know, between countries like India and Pakistan prevent a nuclear war. It's amazing, isn't it? It is amazing. It is just amazing. All right, let's take a break and come back. Last hour of the Rob Carson show is right ahead. If I were you, I wouldn't go anywhere.