Sombreros, Shutdowns & Smackdowns

Summary

The Rob Carson Show — "Sombreros, Shutdowns & Smackdowns"

Date: October 1, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guest: Caitlin Bennett (Liberty Hangout)
Theme: A humorous and pointed breakdown of current U.S. politics, the government shutdown, media hypocrisy, and the cultural moment, featuring satirical commentary and guest Caitlin Bennett.

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show dives into the political turmoil surrounding the October 1st government shutdown, lampoons the viral “sombrero” video controversy, and features a vibrant interview with conservative influencer Caitlin Bennett. In classic Carson style, the discussion blends scathing critique, humor, nostalgia, and earnest moments about public figures, the power of faith, and the enduring influence of conservative movement leaders.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Government Shutdown & Political Hypocrisy

• Opening Tone: Carson opens with personal anecdotes about October birthdays and fitness, setting a conversational and upbeat tone.
  • "It's my birthday month and this is one of those pesky birthdays. It ends at an oh. After 30, they're generally not a lot of fun. But you know what? There's nothing you could do about them. So why not embrace them?" (03:08)
• Shutdown Reflection: Carson launches straight into the government shutdown, accusing Democrats of manufacturing hysteria and hypocrisy about the shutdown’s cause and impact.
  • He runs Chuck Schumer montage clips arguing shutdowns are disastrous, then flips Schumer’s narrative.
    • "He is hypocrite and everybody knows it. This is why he's Chuck Schumer's done as far as leadership." (04:49)

Highlighted Hypocrisy (Chuck Schumer)

• Past Schumer: “Shutting down government over a policy difference is self-defeating..." (05:12)

• Present Schumer: Suddenly tolerant of shutdowns, according to Carson.

• Media Control Shifting:

  • Carson argues that Democrats “used to own the media and now their media is dead.” He asserts Republicans offered a “clean CR” (Continuing Resolution) and Democrats rejected it to press their own funding priorities (NPR, PBS, aid for undocumented immigrants).

2. The 'Sombrero' AI Video Controversy

• Situation: Trump posts a video of Democratic leaders Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer wearing sombreros and mustaches, generated by AI. Democrats decry it as “racist.”

  • Carson mocks the outrage: “If that's all you got, you are children. You are petulant little children.” (08:36)

• Satire vs. Racism:

  • Carson and Bennett agree it's satire, not bigotry, lampooning Democrats for fixating on “offense.”
    • “I've been saying this for 30 years of my career. Sooner or later, these faux cries of racism would just be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.” (10:19)
  • Bennett: “You're supposed to be negotiating a deal. You post something that draws a sombrero and a mustache on the leader with.” (11:27)

• Historical Perspective:

  • Carson plays vintage clips of Schumer and Pelosi being tough on illegal immigration—contrasting their current stances.

3. Trump Administration Moves: Healthcare & Pharma

• Trump’s Policy Announcements:

  • Carson praises Trump’s deals to bring Pfizer’s drug manufacturing back to the U.S., promising lower drug prices.
    • “Pfizer… announced they're going to reduce the price of drugs by 50 to 85%.” (21:17)
  • Satirizes Democrats’ lack of tangible achievements: “Unlike Democrats who just have meetings and they look at the meetings as the success and they do nothing at all.” (21:22)

• Biden’s Broken Cancer Promise:

  • Rob skewers Biden’s “Cancer Moonshot” as “empty promises”—contrasting it with a heartfelt Trump childhood cancer summit featuring a survivor’s story.

Notable Moment – Young Cancer Survivor at White House

• Ailani Myers (age 9) tells her leukemia story and thanks Trump:
  • “Thank you, Mr. President, for making everything happen today… so kids like me and Laura, we can still be living today.” (17:59-18:05)

4. AOC & Progressive Rhetoric

• Carson and Bennett play and mock AOC clips accusing Trump of wanting kids to die by ending health insurance for millions.
  • Carson mocks as hyperbolic theatrics:
    • "Well, I mean, couldn't he just have killed them all when they were in the White House yesterday?" (19:10)
    • “If there were sharp objects here, I would be gouging out my eardrums right now.” (19:49)

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Guest Segment: Caitlin Bennett (Liberty Hangout)

Introduced at [23:06]

Background:
Bennett is lauded for her “woman on the street” interviews—challenging left-wing rhetoric with humor and civility. Carson credits her for combining strength of conviction with humility and faith.

• Faith and Motherhood:

  • Bennett explains her transformation: becoming a Christian and a mother made her more measured and gracious.
    • “I used to have a podcast, but that’s before I was a Christian. Becoming a Christian and becoming a mother is definitely the way in which I interact with people.” (24:00)
  • “Even through natural, unmedicated labor did not utter one cuss word. And my midwife drove. Wow. No one does that.” (24:29)

• Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s Death:

  • Both discuss the shock and moral reckoning after Kirk’s murder three weeks prior.
    • “We saw flat out evil in front of our faces… It woke a lot of people up…” (27:44)
    • Carson: “The left exposing itself, dancing like demons online in celebration is death… More so for Democrats who went, oh, what have we become?” (27:10)

• Handling Political Hatred:

  • Discuss how social media amplifies tribalism and toxicity, particularly in responses to conservative tragedies.

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Caitlin’s Street Interviews & the Charlie Kirk Memorial Highway

• [31:43] Bennett recounts talking with skeptics about Charlie Kirk at the Winter Garden Farmers Market (from which she was trespassed, highlighting free speech issues).
• She finds most people were neutral or didn't know much about Kirk, despite online rhetoric labeling him as “racist.”
  • “I've never heard him say anything that was derogatory towards people of color or minority groups. I think that he was a very Jesus oriented and faith oriented man.” (30:49)
  • Advice: “Go on his YouTube or Twitter, and watch those clips…in its full entirety, because I think you might be surprised.” (31:29)
• Summarizes: Conservative figures are misjudged based on edited snippets and “bumper sticker” talking points.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Rob Carson:
  • “He is hypocrite and everybody knows it. This is why he's Chuck Schumer's done as far as leadership in the Democrat Party.” (04:49)
  • “If that's all you got, you are children. You are petulant little children.” (08:36)
  • “Sooner or later, these faux cries of racism would just be blah, blah, blah…” (10:19)
  • “You know, I've got two children, and I said, if your wife has your children, you owe her the rest of your life.” (25:22)
• Caitlin Bennett:
  • “Becoming a Christian and becoming a mother is definitely the way in which I interact with people.” (24:00)
  • “That's beautiful…I'm so glad to see so many inspired and not bullied out of going on campuses.” (34:41)
  • “I hope that all of these people that feel so inspired right now…don’t lose it…we’ve all got to work to make sure that that inspiration and that fire is still lit…” (36:15)
• Ailani Myers, cancer survivor (guest at White House event, via Caitlin Bennett):
  • “Thank you, Mr. President, for making everything happen today…so kids like me and Laura, we can still be living today.” (17:59)

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Notable Segment Timestamps

| Time | Topic/Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------| | 02:03 | Episode begins; Carson on October birthdays | | 03:33 | Introduction to government shutdown argument | | 04:49 | Carson calls out Schumer’s shutdown hypocrisy | | 08:36 | “If that’s all you got, you are children…” (sombrero)| | 10:19 | “Faux cries of racism…blah, blah, blah…” | | 13:25 | Pelosi (2007) on illegals/benefits—vintage clips | | 17:59 | Trump childhood cancer summit; survivor’s story | | 19:10 | Carson & Bennett lampoon AOC on health policies | | 21:17 | Pfizer moving drug production to U.S. | | 23:06 | Caitlin Bennett segment begins | | 27:44 | On cultural evil and the fallout from Kirk’s murder | | 31:43 | Caitlin’s street interviews and message on Kirk | | 36:15 | Keeping post-tragedy momentum alive |

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Tone and Style

• Rob Carson: Irreverent, sarcastic, but also heartfelt in personal moments.
• Caitlin Bennett: Thoughtful, firm in her beliefs, yet gentle and positive in engagement.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a whirlwind tour of current political theatrics—mocking government shutdown drama, media outrage cycles, and the latest viral controversies (notably, the Trump “sombrero” clip). It balances sharp-edged satire with sincere moments about faith, overcoming loss, and the power of grace. Caitlin Bennett’s segment offers a look at grassroots, face-to-face political discourse and underscores the legacy of fallen conservative leader Charlie Kirk, emphasizing the need for hope and civil dialogue.

Skip to:

• [23:06] for Caitlin Bennett on faith, motherhood, and handling public backlash
• [17:59] for a moving moment with a young cancer survivor at the Trump White House event
• [10:19, 08:36] for classic Carson satire on political correctness and media outrage

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Takeaway:
Amidst the noise, accusations, and viral culture wars, Carson and Bennett advocate for resilience, civility, faith, and real conversation—challenging listeners to look beyond “bumper sticker” slogans and manufactured outrage.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

Hold it now. You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

This is the R.O.

[Rob Carson]

Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show. Our number two on the 1st of October. It's the 1st of October. Holy crud. A lot of October babies. It's the most birthdays month of the year and I've heard it's because you know February is Valentine's Day and you know mom and dad like to do the boom chickaboom, all that. So it could be a little that going on. But I'm born in October, born in October. This is one of those. It's my birthday month and this is one of those pesky birthdays. It ends at an oh that ends at an o and after 30 they're generally not a lot of fun. But you know what? There's nothing you could do about them. So why not embrace them? If you're healthy, right? If you're healthy like me, if you got a birthday in and an O this month, I don't even care. Don't even care. Stronger than I have been in a very long time. And all it has taken me is four years of sobriety and about 800 to 50 to 900 workouts. And you can do the same thing. It's not been easy. But you know what? It's good. Things are good. Feeling good, feeling stronger every day. In the words of Chicago, Caitlin Minute joins us at the bottom of the hour. She's the founder of Liberty Hangout and she does some great woman on the street stuff and she goes out and talks to people, talks to leftists, talks to others and interacts with them in a really amazing way. She is walking in the footsteps of Charlie Kirk. We'll talk to her at the bottom of the hour. Today is also the first day of the government shutdown. The government sh. And the Democrat Party is all, you know, trying to blame Republicans and everything. It's not working so well because the Democrat Party has just been lying for so long and, you know, portending the end of the world for so long and saying that, oh, my God, the world is going to end. And Donald Trump, since Donald Trump became the president, every single day, they've done nothing at all, nothing at all to help the Republicans at all. Nothing to help Donald Trump. There was no honeymoon period at all. It was just immediate hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. And I think Americans are kind of done with it. Absolutely kind of done with it. With it. Here is Chuck Schumer being confronted by John Berman on CNN about all the times that Chuck Schumer has said that shutdowns are bad and all of a sudden they're ok. One of the things that Republicans are also doing and they're doing in the White House press beef room with the running sound of Democrats.

[Commercial Announcer]

Talking about shutdowns in the past, including sound of you.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

This is the type of thing you've.

[Rob Carson]

Said about shutdowns in the past. Let's listen.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Oh, what if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm going to shut the government down? I am going to not, you know.

[Rob Carson]

He is hypocrite and everybody knows it. This is why he's Chuck Schumer's done as far as leadership in the Democrat Party. His era is absolutely over pay our.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Bills unless I get my way. It's A politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis. Shutting down government over a policy difference is self defeating. We can never.

[Rob Carson]

He offers you nothing. If you're a Democrat, what does he offer you other than darkness, negativity? Chuck Schumer offers you nothing. And neither does the Democrat party hold American workers hostage.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Again, while the CR bill is very bad, the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America.

[Rob Carson]

The guy the. The Republicans are offering a clean cr. Nothing on it, no political strings, not demanding anything. And the Democrat Party thinking they have the same sway they have in the past because they used to own the media and now their media is dead. The Republicans are offered the cr. Everybody understands that the Democrat Party only shut down the government because they didn't get their opportunity to extort money from us for illegals with health care, for refunding NPR and pbs. That boat's already sailed, kids that are much, much worse.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Therefore, I will vote to keep the government open and not shut it down.

[Rob Carson]

Here's John Murray.

[Caitlin Bennett]

That was you three times.

[Rob Carson]

Go ahead, what's it. That was.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Yeah, that was in March, John. Before they had done these horrible things to health care before they.

[Rob Carson]

What have they done the health care other than get people off it who shouldn't be on it. That means able bodied young people off of it and illegals off it.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

And introduced these rescissions which would allow them to ignore the budget process. And the bottom line is when I was majority leader y We had 13 times to vote on a budget. You know why there was no shutdown. We sat and negotiated with the Republicans every time. Sure, they got some things, we got some they did not negotiate.

[Rob Carson]

Now when you were the, the head of the the Senate and when Joe Biden was in office, every metric of quality of life descended into the toilet. And you guys also increased the size of the government by like 60% because of COVID You used a virus that we paid for that you created and then covered up to blow up the size of. And you have lived for years on our largess taxpayers largesse. And you have looted the treasury to enrich all of your friends. The average household income in Washington D.C. proper is $265,000 a year. The next highest is New York state, about $100,000 less. Washington D.C. has lived high on the hog for a very long time. I've lived outside of Washington D.C. for I've seen the suffering. I've seen people in their 70s going back to work doing whatever they could because they can't afford to live anymore. Washington D.C. doesn't make anything, doesn't build anything, doesn't export anything. They don't build cars here. They just live off us. So I'm sorry, I don't have a lot of pity because I've seen the suffering. I felt the suffering. And wah, wah. And they're only complaining because Donald Trump did a sombrero. He did. He did a video where it had Hakeem Jeffries dressed in a sombrero. It was so humiliated. It was so embarrassing. Yeah. You know, honestly, who cares? I love the fact that offensive comedy is back. And this isn't even offensive, you see, because a good share effect. Almost all of the illegals who came across the southern border while Joe Biden was the president, when they were stuffing a Trojan horse with our country's enemies, they were coming from Mexico. That's where the sombrero is worn. It is worn. So. So there's that. But here's the Democrats, man, of all the things they could be. But heard about that. Donald Trump put a sombrero on Hakeem Jeffries and suddenly that's racist. Honestly, if that's all you got, you are children. You are. You are petulant little children. This is a Democrat, Representative Madeleine Dean, who has nothing better in her life to try to stir up something like make this into something. Some sort of hate crime. You know what Trump did this morning? He put the same video up again with Hakeem Jeffries wearing a sombrero and a mariachi band in the background with Donald Trump's face playing is fantastic.

[Caitlin Bennett]

I also asked him what he thought of the tweet last night after the meeting in the Oval Office with our leadership and Senate leadership. What he thought of the tweet that the president put forward with our leader Sombrero nodding the mustache and speak and Schumer saying things, of course, that he never said.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I know. It's it AI Edit.

[Caitlin Bennett]

The speaker said that was not his.

[Rob Carson]

It's also called satire. You.

[Caitlin Bennett]

I said, did you call it out? You should call it out for the racist bigot.

[Rob Carson]

And he questioned, you know, we hear. Right now, we hear the Democrats saying racist and bigot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I've been saying this for 30 years of my career. Sooner or later, these faux cries of racism would just be blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Guess what? They're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, my God. They're blah, blah, blah. Is it. They are. They are like, you know, throwing a. Wearing a bowl of. I'm wearing a bulletproof vest and you throw a raspberry at me. It's like, there you go. Yeah, okay. Racist. Oh, good, I'm a racist. Racist, racist, racist. Here's a sombrero. Protest outside. And of course, the only word that is said with an authentic Spanish accent is the word sombrero.

[Caitlin Bennett]

That's right. And then what does that shameful man do? After a meeting where you're supposed to be working out details, where you're supposed to be negotiating a deal, you post something.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Caitlin Bennett]

That draws a sombrero.

[Rob Carson]

A sombrero. See, there are all the words that kind of raises actually just to talk along in a normal accent. And then all sudden, the word sombrero.

[Caitlin Bennett]

You're supposed to be working out details.

[Rob Carson]

I think tonight I will go to the restaurant and have some enceladasa.

[Caitlin Bennett]

You're supposed to be negotiating a deal. You post something that draws a sombrero and a mustache on the leader with.

[Rob Carson]

Whom you're supposed to be. How could you say that about someone who wears a sombrero? So stupid. I mean, just. Just so stupid. Oh, my God. This is kind of. Oh, here's Chuck Schumer talking about the sombrero yesterday in. In the Senate. You know, honestly, you're an adult man. Okay? Won't you grow a pair? Instead of whining and crying about somebody put sombrero in a video on your colleague.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Yesterday, the president posted an offensive deep fake AI video. Jeffries and me.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

With sombreros. Fake.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, he didn't say sombrero. That's racist music.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Impersonating my voice through AI. It wasn't me talking even more lies about health care and immigration. Yeah, listen to this, America.

[Rob Carson]

How about just become adults? Dear God in heaven, here's Chuck Schumer way back in 1996 when he was against illegals getting health care.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

This is an anti fraud amendment. All over where we go, people say, well, why can't you stop illegal immigrants or others from coming here? And the number one answer we give our constituents is when they come here, they can get jobs, get benefits against the law because of fraud. And here the gentleman from Florida has put together the most effective.

[Rob Carson]

It used to be fraudulent to do that, but now you realize that you can't get votes because you can't steal them anymore. And none of your policies resonate with people at all. So you have to bring in a bunch of people who are needy, load them up with free benefits, and then say, if you. If you, you know, vote Democrat, you'll get to keep them and here's Nancy Pelosi. Is Nancy Pelosi 2007 they saying that illegal should not get health care.

[Caitlin Bennett]

The undocumented are not allowed to receive.

[Rob Carson]

She sounds sober then.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Benefits from this initiative. It was clear in the first bill.

[Rob Carson]

Maybe they didn't hear of day drinking in 2007.

[Caitlin Bennett]

It's even clearer in the second bill. There's a cap and who can receive it. Stronger language as to undocuments. Undocumented. No. Illegal aliens, to use your term. I prefer undocumented are able to get benefits.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. But now they have to. So you can ensure that they can displace people who've come here legally and people who are born here. Because we don't vote Democrat anymore. Because we realize you're awful, you're corrupt, you are not a force for good. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Poor little Democrats. Are you guys okay today? I came in to check on you. Every time Trump does something good, you guys fast out. Would you guys shut up and let him work.

[Rob Carson]

Right into Metallica? Thank you very much. It is a Rob Carson Show. October 1st. I am. I'm ready for fall now. I'm ready. I was relenting against summer ending and now I'm, I'm ready for October. Man. You know what? October is kind of lagging behind a little bit. It's a little bit warm where I am. Very global warming, climate change, murder, hornets, ozone, oh, acid rain. Or maybe it's just kind of an Indian summer. You can't say that's politically incorrect. I don't even care. It's been a little bit warm. It's been a little boy, they could have left the pool cover off. It would have been fine for a little while. I like fall because, you know, it's the great equalizer for those who don't have washboard stomachs. You can put a sweater on, you can put a layers on and look just as hot as can be. So that's what. I kind of like it. Anyway, it's October the first. So you October babies, welcome to it. Day one of the government shutdown. By the way, if you have Social Security, your checks will not be affected whatsoever. And by the way, Donald Trump, I don't know if you knew this Social Security recipient. No taxes on your Social Security. How about that? How about that? How about being able to keep all of the money you get for Social Security without any federal income tax on it? And why would you pay federal insurance income tax money when you've Already paid your entire life for it. That's double jeopardy. It's double jeopardy. Donald Trump's doing a lot of amazing stuff. And yesterday he was talking about Pfizer. Brought Pfizer to the White House. They're going to invest $70 billion in making drugs here. And I'm not talking about meth and fentanyl. I'm talking about the drugs you need and making them a lot cheaper. And all the Democrats can do is gnash their teeth and show their claws and try to drag us into hell with a. It is quite simply remarkable. Quite simply remarkable. Yesterday, a little girl, nine years old, Donald Trump talked this. Remember when Joe Biden said that he was going to do this cancer moonshot and all this, and they did nothing, Nothing at all. See, he was going to do the cancer moonshot when he was the vice president with Barack Obama and he created this charity and all of the money raised went to the people who ran the charity. Did nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing at all. For charity. Nothing. You didn't know that, did you? Oh, yeah. Did you? Nothing. And then of course, because he needed some sort of campaign thing, he said he was going to do the cancer moonshot again and they were going to kill cancer. He, he ran on curing cancer. Don't you remember that he was going to cure cancer? Joe Biden, when he was running for President in 2020, before the election was rigged and stolen. Oh, you can't say that. Yeah, I just did. Promised he was going to cure cancer. Well, if I'm not mistaken, I don't think cancer has been cured. Pretty, pretty much, yeah, there's that. But yesterday Donald Trump had a summit on childhood cancer and a little nine year old girl spoke and it was pretty amazing. Would anybody, Would you like to say something? Yes.

[Caitlin Bennett]

I'm Ailani Myers. I'm nine years old and I was, I had a blood cancer called leukemia when I was only two years old. I had, I had to get treated at seven different hospitals across this country. And I had to have two bone marrow transplants, one for my dad and one for my mom. And I had to spend many days in the nights in the hospital getting pokies and yucky medicine. And me and my parents were very worried and I had to go through those seven different hospitals to find the best treatment that can make me better. And thank you, Mr. President, for making everything happen today.

[Rob Carson]

And.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Sure. So kids like me and Laura, we can still be living today.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And unlike the empty promises of Joe Biden, Donald Trump and his HHS And CDC are going to do something about it rather than promising it, creating a charity that didn't work and then pocketing all the money. Because that's Joe Biden. Because he's a scumbag. Yeah, complete scumbag. Absolutely corrupt, awful human being. Worst president ever. Worst president ever. But here's AOC yesterday. AOC says that Donald Trump wants children to die.

[Caitlin Bennett]

So are you telling me your willing to vote no every time leader?

[Rob Carson]

Damn right. I am not going to allow. Let me be. Sorry. That's cows. I will not let. Shush, shush. I don't want to hear you. This is AOC yesterday after the children's the cancer initiative on in the White House yesterday. Here's AOC just lying, lying through her teeth saying that Donald Trump just wants children, just wants to make sure children die.

[Caitlin Bennett]

What I'm not going to DO is tolerate 4 million uninsured Americans because Donald Trump decided one day. So are you telling me to just make sure that kids are dying because they don't have access to insurance?

[Rob Carson]

Well, I mean, couldn't he just have killed them all when they were in the White House yesterday?

[Caitlin Bennett]

Right.

[Rob Carson]

I mean, if it's true he just wants children to die, why didn't he just murder him in the White House?

[Caitlin Bennett]

He's not going to DO is tolerate 4 million uninsured Americans because Donald Trump decided one day that he wants to just make sure that kids are dying because they don't have access to insurance.

[Rob Carson]

Why do you invite him to the White House yesterday? Just to rub the face at it like, oh, we're gonna kill you kids. I thought I'd have you in the White House talk about it.

[Caitlin Bennett]

That's what's not gonna happen.

[Rob Carson]

Oh my God.

[Caitlin Bennett]

So if those senators think that we're having a shutdown because of me, they're free to enter my office and negotiate because what?

[Rob Carson]

I can't listen to you anymore. My God. I just cannot listen to you anymore. I just wanted. If there were shop objects here, I would be gouging out my eardrums right now. I don't want to do that. I like listening to music. Don't make me jab my ears out because of your voice. I don't want to ever not listen to Led Zeppelin again. This is Marty Makary actually talking about what happened yesterday in the White House with prescription drug prices. You know, the president has asked all pharmaceutical companies to move manufacturing to the United States. People said it could never happen. We're seeing company after company make this announcement. It's A national security issue. But does that stop Donald Trump from murdering all the children? We should never get burned shopping for drugs in China like we did in the beginning of COVID So it's an exciting time, and I think you're going to see a real difference in terms.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Of the price of health insurance and.

[Rob Carson]

The price of pharmaceuticals very soon. That'd be pretty cool. And then they're going to make the drugs here and then. And then the rest of the world plays much cheaper pharmaceuticals than we do. Did you know that? Yeah, we get screwed. We spend the most and we pay the most. But that's going to change. Rob, this is a historic day in America. This is going to mean lower drug.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Prices immediately for everyday Americans.

[Rob Carson]

It's also going to mean lower health.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Care costs because the fastest area of growth of health care is drug prices.

[Rob Carson]

We're not talking about a task force or a panel or a conference. Today, the company Pfizer announced that they're.

[Chuck Schumer (clip) / Various Politicians (clips)]

Going to reduce the price of drugs by 50 to 85%.

[Rob Carson]

That actually is something that's really happening. Unlike Democrats who just have meetings and they look at the meetings as the success and they do nothing at all. Caitlin Bennett, awesome Gen Z influencer, joins us next. Don't go anywhere.

[Caitlin Bennett]

There was a road about 20 minutes away from here renamed the Charlie Kirk Memorial Highway. Got a lot of pushback. Do you think that pushback is warranted?

[Rob Carson]

Yes, absolutely.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Yes. Why? So that's not a very good person to be named after. Okay. If he was doing good for the world, maybe, yeah. But if it's just racism and oppression, no, thank you. That sounds gross. Sorry. Why does that sound gross? Because Charlie Kirk sucks. Then she just called me the B word. No, I don't think that's a good idea. Okay. Why not? I mean, it's not like he was somebody, anybody important. He was just a debater and said.

[Rob Carson]

Some pretty horrible things about a lot.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Of different people and groups.

[Rob Carson]

You know, years ago, I came up with an expression for the Democrats, and it was called the speaking in bumper stickers. I remember. I actually, this is way back when, like in the 90s. Oh, my God. So long. Paul Wellstone came into my studio at a music station and I said, senator, you're talking in bumper stickers because that's how deep it is. It's like, Charlie Kirk racist. Oh, really? Can you tell me exactly what he said? It was racist. I have nothing further to say. That's the kind of stuff that Caitlin Bennett deals with every day, and she does it so brilliantly. And she is so unrelenting. And she does it with a wink and a smile and a sense of humor. And she joins us on the Newsmax hotline. How are you, Caitlin?

[Caitlin Bennett]

I'm doing well. It's so nice to be back talking to you again.

[Rob Carson]

I just love your stuff. I really do. You know, there are a lot of people who do what you do, but there are few who do it in the way that you do, and I think that's really important. First of all, you don't do a lot of profanity, which I really preach. I get tired of the left just spewing the most vile, awful things, and you handle it with grace. And as I mentioned the other day, when I had you on, you know, you had that transgendered, you know, this person who's a man, obviously, and, you know, you're. He's Obviously, you're trying to point out the differences. And he's like, well, because, you know. And you're like, well, maybe it's because you have a penis. But you didn't say that at the end. You said, I hope you love yourself because God loves you. And I'm like, holy hell, you are walking in Charlie Kirk's footsteps. You're the answer. And I just. I think that's fantastic. So there you go.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Well, thank you so much. You know, I wasn't always that way. I used to have a podcast, but that's before I was a Christian. Becoming a Christian and becoming. Becoming a mother is definitely the way in which I interact with people. So I used to be a polymouth. I used to be real feisty and stuff, and I've learned a thing or two since growing.

[Rob Carson]

Even when you. No, wait, hold on. You're saying you don't use profanity even when you put together IKEA furniture? Because if that's the case, even through.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Natural, unmedicated labor that did not utter one cuss word. And my midwife drove. Wow. No one does that.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. You know, that's another thing. Having a child is so beyond profound, I can't even begin to say it. I didn't go through the hard part. You know, my part was over 10 months before the children were born. But it really does. It just changes your perspective. Was that you became a Christian. Did you become a Christian before you became a mother? Or how did that go?

[Caitlin Bennett]

Yeah, well, I kind of all happened at the same time. I got confirmed into the Catholic Church about a couple weeks or maybe a month before or. Yeah, before I gave birth to my first child. So I was converting and pregnant with my first at the same time, and it was a beautiful experience.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, yes. Well, like I said, I'm, I'm. I always said that, you know, I've got two children, and I said, if your wife has your children, you owe her the rest of your life. And you do because of what you went through. It's pretty remarkable. But obviously with Charlie Kirk's murder, which was three weeks ago, it's really hard to realize that, isn't it? It's hard to realize that it was just three weeks ago that he left us. It seems like an eternity, doesn't it?

[Caitlin Bennett]

You know, I've, I go back and forth between feeling like, oh, my goodness, it's only been three weeks, but it feels like it's only been a few hours versus Wow. I feel so overwhelmed with everything on social media and seeing him constantly that it feels like it's been forever. So I go back and forth. Yeah, but the shock of it, I think the shock of it has worn off for me. And it's just hard to put together. You know, you see him so much online, you see his clips going around, people still sharing stuff, and it's hard to, like, wrap my brain around, this person is dead.

[Rob Carson]

Did you.

[Caitlin Bennett]

That's been very confusing for me. But that's social media.

[Rob Carson]

Exactly. And, you know, I remember when Rush Limbaugh died, and we knew that Rush was going to die, he, you know, had a terminal cancer diagnosis a year earlier. We had the opportunity to prepare for it. And I said, because I used to write for Rush Limbaugh right out of college. I wrote for him for 20 years of my career. I wrote a good share of his political comedy and we, we do that here. And I said that, you know, I walk in his footsteps, but no one will fill his shoes. But I'll tell you, I was very shaky and, and, and obviously grief stricken, but, but shaky about the future of the Charlie Kirk movement for about five minutes. And then I saw people like you, and then I, I felt something. And all of this, the left exposing itself, dancing like demons online in celebration is death. I think that was very powerful, too. More so for Democrats who went, oh, what have we become? This is all. And this is all in the last three weeks, Caitlin, so much has happened.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Yes. I think that, well, you know, while something terrible happened, I think a lot of the country was so. Is still in shock about it because we saw flat out evil in front of our faces and then we saw evil spilling out even more just from the people celebrating this, and that's really hard to grapple when you're a good, normal person. People celebrating something like this and you feel it in your gut, that feeling is evil and there's no way around it. And I think a lot of people, it woke a lot of people up and started to convict people that maybe these people on the left aren't people to side with.

[Rob Carson]

I know you're really siding with darkness. And like there was this, this woman and she got online and she danced around with Charlie dying and her husband owns an electric company and her hateful rhetoric destroyed his business. And yeah, I'm like, and I feel bad for him. I feel bad for him not only because he, she destroyed his business, but he's married to her. And I don't think I'd want to be. If that were your, if that were your spouse, if your husband now danced around when someone from the opposition was murdered, danced around like a demon, wouldn't you go, I think there's something unbreakable, unfixable about you?

[Caitlin Bennett]

Oh, absolutely. That would be so embarrassing. That. And it's really different, you know, way that that's set up when it's a wife doing it, because I just feel like one. Why is a husband letting their wife have. Like, how do you not know that about your wife, number one?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Caitlin Bennett]

And you know, I don't think women should be treated like children by their husbands. But a husband should probably step in and be like, no more phones. You're deleting your social media. How dare you. No more credit cards. You know, like you get nothing for a while.

[Rob Carson]

That is so old fashioned. Oh, my God, you are such a sexist. My God, Caitlin, what is your problem?

[Caitlin Bennett]

I support in this instance because she deserves to have time out for sure.

[Rob Carson]

I want to talk to you further about this. And also you did another video and I think this was just like the last few days where you talked to two young people and they were kind of receptive, kind of not fans of Charlie Kirk, but willing to learn more and all of that. If we could talk about that after the break, that would be huge. Caitlin Bennett, can you do that?

[Caitlin Bennett]

Absolutely.

[Rob Carson]

All right. By the way, if you want to follow Caitlin on the Twitter, it is a I tmarieox. Okay. I don't know where that came from. Kaitlin, you can explain it on the other side of the break, but you've gotta find the Kaitlin Bennett. Otherwise you're just wasting your time on those other Caitlyn's. Let's take a Break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Opinions and.

[Commercial Announcer]

And everything gets translated in all kinds of different ways.

[Caitlin Bennett]

So we just need to remember that.

[Rob Carson]

Having that ability to speak is.

[Caitlin Bennett]

It's important. Yeah, it's important. I. I've never heard him say anything that was derogatory towards people of color or minority groups. I think that he was a very Jesus oriented and faith oriented man. And the Bible is very clear that all people are knit in their mother's womb from conception as children of God and they're put on here for a purpose. And I've heard him preach that many times. Many, many times. So I am interested in maybe where you heard that from, because I don't think you might be getting the full story of what he said and what he believes in.

[Commercial Announcer]

It was just certain things that I've caught online.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Okay. Clips.

[Rob Carson]

Different things.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Yeah. Well, there's two decades worth of information and things coming from his own mouth. I would encourage you guys to maybe go on his YouTube or go on his Twitter and stuff and watch those clips that you find in its full entirety, because I think you might be surprised.

[Rob Carson]

That is Caitlin Bennett out and talking to people who. The political opposition of Charlie Kirk about Charlie Kirk. Talking to a couple of Democrats who are not fans of Charlie Kirk and getting them to just listen. Maybe, maybe think beyond the bumper stickers. Where did you find these? These two and where did you talk to them?

[Caitlin Bennett]

So I was at Winter Garden Farmers Market. If anybody who's listening has followed me in the past month, you'll know that I was actually trespassed from there. It's public property, but they trespassed me.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Caitlin Bennett]

So just to kind of fight for dialogue and free speech in this country, we went back there and just wanted to engage with people. And that's exactly what we did for Charlie. And there were quite a lot of people who did not like him there, but the majority either honestly didn't know who he was.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Or just had no, you know, problem with the road that was named after him in Florida. In Lake county, which was just 20 minutes from that farmer's market, is the first ever highway named after Charlie. And that was done with the leadership of Anthony Sabatini in Florida, which is a great friend and we support him and we are so thankful to have that in our state.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. I spoke to my. The last decade I moved to Kansas City and I had a tumultuous decade. My mother died, my brother died, and I found out that I was given up for adoption because I was my mother was raped. And. And it was very difficult. But I did get to know my biological half biological sister. And I spoke to her, Caitlin, last week, and I called her just, you know, out of nowhere. I just wanted to catch up with her. And she said, she's a lefty, by the way. She's very. Hates Donald Trump. He's all this and all that, and thinks that Joe Biden was great. Dear God. And she said in the conversation, she goes, what did you think of this, Charlie Kirk? And I'm thinking, oh, she's gonna talk about how racist he is and all this. And I said, I thought he was a really great man. What do you think? And she goes, I do, too. She said, I've been listening. She said, listen to me. Listen to me. He said, since he was killed, I started watching his videos, and I really think he's wonderful, and I can't understand why so many people hate him. Can you believe that?

[Caitlin Bennett]

That's exciting. You have a wonderful sister.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my Lord. And she's a good Catholic. She's, you know, it's remarkable. We raised it kind of the same mirrored childhoods. Me, 20 miles away going to St. Pat's in Neola, Iowa, and her going to a church in Harlan. Iow, same thing. Good Catholic, right? Me, not so much until recently. But isn't that interesting? She is normally left, left, left. And she took the time to listen to him and went, and I'm going to tell you, this is his legacy. And it's just starting to. The seed has been planted, and it's starting to grow already. It really is. Caitlin.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Beautiful. And I also think Steven Crowder getting back out to do what he does. I. I owe so much. Just like I owe so much to Charlie. I owe so much to Steven Crowder. And Steven Crowder is actually the one who pioneered this entire idea of going out on a booth on campus and talking to people. And no one would have been doing that if not for Steven Crowder doing it first. I drew so much inspiration from him when I began the Liberty Hangout chapter on my campus after leaving Turning Point. And I'm so, so glad to see him back out there. So it's just. It has sparked even this idea on the right that we can't be silent and he can't be bullied out of going on campuses.

[Rob Carson]

Crowder, Crowder is a trip. You know, he's. He's certainly not as. He's a little sharper edged than most. But think about how many times you filled out that meme. Prove me Wrong. That you've had that table and you filled that out yourself. Whatever, whatever. Prove me wrong. You've done that and you've reposted. I swear to God, for, like, at least six or seven years, I've been doing that meme because he created. But I. I am not. I'm not afraid that Charlie Shoes won't be filled. I mean, you look at the other night, Benny Johnson out of the Penn State game, and you. You see there was a big rally, Minnesota, and then one just a day or2ago. 4000 people indoors, and the crowds are there, bigger and better and maybe even more focus on them now, which is remarkable.

[Caitlin Bennett]

It's an incredible thing to see. And I just hope that all of these people that feel so inspired right now in the last three weeks, they don't lose it, because it's easy to be inspired and have motivation right in the moment. But we've all got to work to make sure that that inspiration and that fire is still lit for months and years to come, because it's easy to lose it. You get complacent. You forget about it. But it's important to not let that happen.

[Rob Carson]

You know, you did. When you were talking to those two guys, you. You did like. How do I say, you know, you come to the altar, we all come to the altar. You hear the music coming, you come to the altar. That's what you kind of did with them. That's what you kind of did. You got them to come to the altar with you. I think that's pretty remarkable. I really do.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Yeah, they were incredible men. They were very respectful. And I'll never forget what the one I was talking to said. He said that it's just so important. Doesn't matter what we say. We just have to make sure that we always have the right to say it, and that's what's important. And I was like, that's a beautiful way to say it.

[Rob Carson]

I love it.

[Caitlin Bennett]

So I really.

[Rob Carson]

Maybe we can.

[Caitlin Bennett]

Talking to him.

[Rob Carson]

Maybe we can start healing. We can start healing. And you know what I say? I said in the last year, I said, we've got to overwhelm the left with patriotism and joy. Now we have to overwhelm the left with patriot joy and faith. And we're gonna win this. We really are. We don't need to raise our fists. I really don't believe that unless we're defending ourselves. But I really think you're making a difference. Certainly, girl. And I love having you on. Caitlin. You are tell everybody where they can find your work, please?

[Caitlin Bennett]

Yes. On Twitter, it's KateMarie Ox. The story behind that, I was like 18 when I made that and had no idea that I would be someone someday. So it makes no sense. There's no. There's no meaning behind it. And then my YouTube channel, Liberty Hangout, and Kate's unsafe space on Facebook as well.

[Rob Carson]

All right, thanks for being a guest on the show. I really appreciate you. God bless you. You bet. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Show me how to live audio. You know what made me remember the year that this song came out? It was the early aughts. I was out of a job. I went and auditioned in Omaha, Nebraska, at a radio station, kfab. And when I landed, I got off the plane and my sister greeted me and said, your brother's died. My brother was 38 years old. He died in his sleep. And I was shocked out of my mind. It was unexpected. And he was my age. He's too much younger than me. We're both adopted. And I drove a long ride to Sioux Falls, South Dakota to see my mother and then come back to Omaha, Nebraska to bury my brother. And the. The movie.

[Caitlin Bennett]

The.

[Rob Carson]

The Mel Gibson Jesus movie. I'm drawing a blank on the name Brian, if you remember. It's the tip. Help me out, Brian. Anyway, it's the. The Passion of the Christ. The Passion of the Christ that came out right at that time. Right at that time the Passion of the Christ came out. And I went to see Passion of the Christ when I was auditioning at KFAB in Omaha, Nebraska, and I went with a giant congregation, 450 people in the theater to see this movie. And that song came out at the same time. And it said, nail in my hand for my creator, you gave me life. Now show me how to live that song. Right as. The Passion of the Christ came out right as that scene when the Roman soldier holds Christ's arm to the. To the cross and they drive the nail. You know whose arm that was holding down Christ's arm? That was Mel Gibson. That was Mel Gibson. That's one of the reasons why that's my favorite song of all time. That's one of the reasons. Now you know. Now you know. It was. It was an amazing tragic event, but life changing at the same time. And I think these things happen for a reason, don't you? I really, really do. We've got another hour of the show right ahead. I. I know you're thinking, brava. There's no way it can get better. Well, there's a real good possibility it could. I know, it's crazy. How's it possible? The only way you can find out is to stick around, because hour number three of the Rob Carson show on October 1st is coming up next, and I wouldn't miss it if I were you. It's okay not to be perfect with finances. Experian is your big financial friend and here to help.

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