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Rob Carson
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Carl DeMaio
Hold it now
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Show Announcer
you are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world wide web.
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Rob Carson
This is the Rob Carson Show.
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This is the hour, hour number two of the Rob Carson show on a Tuesday. What a, what an amazing week and weekend we have had yesterday. I, I, you know, I, I, it's been a long time since we've had a confluence of events like we're seeing right now. We saw the, the traveling astronauts traveling to the far side of the moon for the first time in, in world history. And it was America who did it. It was America who did, wasn't. It wasn't astronauts saying that the Dear Leader took them to the opposite side of the moon. It wasn't them thanking the party for the, the trip to the opposite side of the moon. It was thanking God. It was pretty amazing. And then two pilots were shot down over Iran and they were rescued miraculously, even though the story was leaked by a journalist. And there was the possibility that they were going to find the second aviator and hold them hostage, murder, torture them, whatever. Here is Donald Trump talking about.
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Show Announcer
Thursday night an American F15 fighter jet went down deep inside enemy territory in Iran while participating in Operation Epic Fury, where we're doing unbelievably well. Well, at a level that nobody's ever seen before.
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Rob Carson
Yeah.
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Show Announcer
The entire country could be taken out in one night. And that night might be tomorrow night. Both members of the crew ejected from the aircraft and landed alive on Iranian soil. I immediately was asked to make a decision. I ordered the U.S. armed forces to do whatever was necessary to bring our brave warriors back home. A risky decision.
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Doug Burns
Yeah.
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Rob Carson
This is a what a real president does, by the way. But the left is saying that he needs to be removed from office for, you know, for the 25th Amendment. Because he's insane. Shut up. Really? Yeah. An insane person is just, has just performed the greatest military campaign against an evil opponent. Overwhelming force with the fewest casualties you could possibly imagine. And he's insane. Dear Lord, please. This is Bradley Cooper talking about the Mantra of the United States, of the United States. Because our soldiers aren't just expendable in other countries. They may be in Iran. The population is expendable. They want them. They're going to force students to go out and stand on bridges and around energy facilities so they won't get bombed. That's Iran. US. This was an incredibly dangerous mission, an incredibly dangerous undertaking, but a filled promise made to every American warfighter that you will not be left behind. We will always come find you and we will always bring you home. That is just. I, you know, I've always been proud of my country. I'm really, really proud of my country right now. This is Representative Adam Smith, a Democrat, and he says that you really can't be proud of the United States today.
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Adam Smith
I mean, Donald Trump, Pete Hagstaff, all these people spend all this time talking about, we're the United States of America, the greatest country in the history of the world, the shining city on the hill and all of that. And back in World War II when the Germans were desperate to surrender to Americans instead of Russians because we were that it was something that we could be proud of.
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Rob Carson
Yeah, but I guess we can't be proud. You know, honestly, this is why the Democrat Party is, is doing a death spiral into hell. Here is a Harry Enton. I played this yesterday from cnn. The Democrats are convinced. I don't know and I've not been able to find out a reason why other than it's midterms and generally the party in power loses congressional seats. That's the only reason they think that they could win. They have no ideas. They have no positivity. They have no patriotism. They spent the last decade tearing down America, tearing down American statues, saying that the founders were slaveholders, that we should be ashamed of America, all of it. That's your Democrat Party. Why would you vote for it?
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Harry Enton
Just take a look at this net favorability party ahead at this point. Midterm years with the GOP president. In 2018, Dems were up by 12 and 2006 on net favorability. Which party, like more Dems were hit by 18. Republicans are actually ahead on that favorability at this point by five points. So Democrats are just simply put, running behind their previous.
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Rob Carson
Yeah, because they are awful. They've tried to destroy the country. They have tried to foist a wokeism on us. Let me give an idea of the Democrat Party. These are two candidates for state office in the state of Georgia. All right, this is your Democrat Party.
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
Hi, I'm Aaron Baker and I am an openly trans, Jewish lesbian running for Georgia State House now.
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Rob Carson
Okay. Openly trans, Jewish lesbian. So, okay, so this is a person who was born with a male, still as a male, just dresses like a woman, maybe had some augmentation to certain body parts, whatever, and has taken the circuitous route to become a woman so he could sleep with women and call himself a lesbian. That's nuts.
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
Hi, and I'm Jeremiah Olney. I am a straight, white, atheist man running for Georgia State House.
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Rob Carson
Okay, did you notice that they got to flash the badge about how special and unique and amazing they are? Let's hear this group again. This is your Democrat Party. Like any of this matters.
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
Hi, I'm Erin Baker, and I am an openly trans, Jewish lesbian running for Georgia State House.
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Rob Carson
And you're also insane.
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
Hi, and I'm Jeremiah Olney. I am a straight, white, atheist man running for Georgia State House.
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Rob Carson
You know, I would never walk up to somebody say, hi, I'm Rob. I'm a straight, white, Christian man. Well, I can't do that because I'm privileged. Right. I should be ashamed of it.
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
But we're both strong progressives fighting to make housing affordable.
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Rob Carson
We're fighting. And you never do it. You never do it. You always promise. You took the word progressive and you stole the word progressive from us. You just took the word. Nothing you do is progressive. Everything just goes into the crapper for working class power.
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
Fighting for education for all of Georgia's students.
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Rob Carson
You guys had the Department of Education 40 years increase the budget massively, and US education results and test results plummeted into the abyss. We have more children now who graduate unable to read and do math than at any time since the Department of Education was founded.
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
We're fighting for affordable health care, and together, we're going to transform the Georgia State housing.
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Rob Carson
Okay, good luck with that. I mean, honestly, you guys are nuts. And here's also your Democrat Party. This is Hakeem Jeffries. Just a couple weeks ago, when Donald Trump wanted to solve the crisis in America's airports, where TSA agents were not being paid in. In a time of great peril because
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Aaron Baker / Jeremiah Olney
of Democrats, what's your response to what
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Rob Carson
Tom Holman revealed here?
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Hakeem Jeffries
Well, good morning. Great to be with you. There are three things that have been true since Donald Trump and Republicans came back into power last January. Life is more expensive.
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Rob Carson
No, it's not.
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Hakeem Jeffries
Life is more chaotic.
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Rob Carson
No, it's not.
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Hakeem Jeffries
And life is more extreme.
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Rob Carson
No, it's not. Because actually, you guys burned the. The. The country in 2020. Democrats did that the last thing that
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Hakeem Jeffries
the American people need are for untrained ICE agents to be.
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Rob Carson
That was one of their talking points. Calling the ICE agents un. Which is untrue.
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Hakeem Jeffries
Deployed at airports all across the country, potentially to brutalize or in some instances, kill them. We've already seen.
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Rob Carson
Okay, nobody died. Everything is perfect now. And Donald Trump signed an executive order to make sure they were paid. What is wrong with you people? What is wrong with you people? Honestly? And this is the amazing thing. There are so many joyous and wonderful things happening. They're being overwhelmed. Their lies cannot be. They cannot cover up the truth anymore. They can't. They can't yell loud enough. They can't say that we're losing in Iran loud enough. They can't say that the economy is terrible. Loud enough to cover up the greatness and the truth and the goodness of America. They can't do it anymore. It's remarkable. Here is former SEAL Mike Sorelli talking about the pilot that was rescued. Our pilot that was rescued. A moment of heroism, a moment of unity that the country has not seen in a long time. And the Democrat Party doesn't want to play along.
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Mike Sorelli
Even if we had 60 days to prepare, this would be a difficult, complex mission. Again, this speaks to the American men. Playing at 12 GS, which is about 2500 pounds of force on your body. Already injured, then has to land a parachute and then climb 7,000ft. They need to make a movie about this. This individual, he is a hero, but he was. He was solidified. He felt the purpose of his brothers and he knew no matter what we were coming from.
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Rob Carson
And he said, God is good in his time of fear, peril. That's the message he sent.
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Wow.
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Tyrus was on with. With Gutfeld last night. Tyrus had a brilliant observation when this happened on Saturday, Sunday morning, Eastern morning, which was the. The trans day of visibility two years ago with Joe Biden as the president. They hijacked it. They hijacked Easter with a trans day of visibility. And they made more of a big deal out of that then. And Tyrus this year on Sunday morning, Easter morning, as we learned that the other pilot had been rescued, the Democrat Party focused on the language Donald Trump used. He used the F bomb about our enemies. And here's Tyrus thoughts on it.
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Tyrus
That decision was his presidency. You understand, if one person would have died.
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Rob Carson
Yes.
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Tyrus
What this news cycle would have been if one. If one of those pilots didn't get over there, they'd be screaming war crimes. They'd be screaming all this. And today he did the thing that this is. And they, and I knew he did. He, they knew he, it was his win because all they could talk about was his language.
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Unknown Commentator
Yes.
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Rob Carson
Yes.
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Tyrus
Did you hear what he said? I heard what he said.
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Rob Carson
I didn't care.
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Tyrus
And I'll tell you why.
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Rob Carson
Listen to this. Listen to this.
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Tyrus
And I think it's like it was so uncouth and, and he's not, that's not traditional and presidential. See, the thing about me is that I've noticed people who cuss are telling it straight. So I have a president that speaks the same language that I do. So I know when he's telling the truth and when he's keeping it real. Opposed to the eloquent lines that we get all the time. And I'm going to quote the president, I think he said about four times today, which is, but to me that he was willing to put his entire career, his, his, his own team were like, the risk isn't, it's too big of a risk. It's too, and he went with his gut and that as leadership. I've said it a long time. That's the difference between being great is you do things for the people regardless of what it does for you politically. And that's a perfect example of it.
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Rob Carson
Yeah. Regardless of the popularity polls and whatever and regardless of what the 97% negative media says about you, you do it anyway in an election year, in a midterm year, to take on Iran, to take down this, this terrorist regime that's been around for 47 years. Balls. That's it. Yeah. That's what it was. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. This fall you're invited to experience Washington D.C. in a truly unforgettable way with me, Rob Carson and other newsmax listeners. Imagine strolling through our nation's capital as America celebrates 250 years and seeing history come alive with an expert guide. Together, we'll tour the White House Visitor center, step into the halls of democracy with a guided tour of the U.S. capitol Building. Visit Arlington National Cemetery and the Changing of the Guard. Stand in awe before the towering figure of President Abraham Lincoln and take in the beauty of DC's legendary memorials with a special nighttime illumination tour. Our adventure includes premium hotel accommodations for four nights in the heart of dc. In addition to six meals, ground transportation guides and gratuities. Space is limited, so don't wait. Visit travelwithrob.net to book your DC getaway today or give our friends at cruise and tour. A call at 800-383-3131. That's 800-383-3131 or travelwithrob.net.
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Show Announcer
The media and our friends in the Democrat Party kept saying we needed new legislation. We must have legislation to secure the border. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president,
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Unknown Analyst
Which was shared exclusively with us. They plan to focus on what they call high speed, low verification programs. You're looking at the full list of the programs right now Trump is focusing on. It includes Medicare, Medicaid, which spends $2 trillion a year. They're also looking into the Department of Labor's unemployment insurance's $43 billion with a B a year spending spree. And yesterday, the task force hosted its first meeting.
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Unknown Commentator
Americans have turned over trillions of their tax dollars to social welfare programs to help their neighbors and fellow citizens through hard times. They've done so on the basis of social trust, the belief that their government, state and federal, will do the right things with their dollars. If we fail to address it, the fabric of our nation will swiftly unravel.
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Rob Carson
This is why the Democrat Party never has enough. The, the, the government never has enough. They've always got to come up with new spending proposals of a billion and a half, a trillion and a half dollars for green energy, increasing the size of the federal government by 40% for Covid. And then what did they do? They looted it. They looted it. That's what they did. This is why nothing ever gets fixed. I said this last year, a couple of years ago, I said, I said, did you notice that Joe Biden has been in office for 50 years? Problems that he campaigned on fixing have not been fixed. Health care is still broken. Social Security is still bankrupt, the VA still bankrupt, the infrastructure still ruined. I mean, it's still, it's a mess. It's a mess. And now we know, And I said that the, you know, I said that the left exposes its flanks so we can kick its ass. And look what we've exposed. Look what the election of Donald Trump has exposed. $2 trillion, possibly a year in fraud. They have looted our treasury. They have looted our treasury, every single bit of it. You and I have been working our rear ends up, some of us working two or three jobs just trying to keep up. Just trying to keep up. And there are people who have made themselves rich by lying about being a hospice care provider or owning a daycare or providing home health care for an elderly relative. So evil and so wrong. And we're A benevolent and wonderful people. But we've reached our end on this nonsense. We've reached our end. Rob Schmidt last night was talking about California because Gavin Newsom is never going to be the, the President of the United States. And by the way, Eric Swalwell is going to be gone soon from the governor's race. A lot of women are coming forward saying that he, he has a pattern of sexual harassment and abuse, that he's actually bragged about it. There have been interviews where he's talked about, people have heard him talking about how he, you know, he likes to, he likes to get a lot of, you know, you know, that and all that. And now a group of young women, even interns, have said, oh yeah, he's an animal. So there's that. But Rob Schmidt last night was talking about the state of California. One of the things that California is doing now that we've uncovered about $280 billion in fraud under Gavin Newsom. Overall half a trillion dollars of fraud from the state of California. They're going to lower the penalties for those who commit fraud.
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News Reporter
California doctor billed a whopping 35 billion in hospice care to Medicare last year. Has billing license revoked. Orange county man helped in $270 million medical scam involving medication reimbursement.
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Rob Carson
One person $270 million.
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News Reporter
California's Employment Development Department allegedly paid out hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent claims and prisoner names to prisoners including at least 133 who are on death row row.
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Rob Carson
Yeah.
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Unreal.
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News Reporter
What has happened.
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Rob Carson
They all knew about it. Everybody in power as a Democrat knew about it.
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News Reporter
That beautiful state.
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Rob Carson
Call, this is Carl DeMaio, by the way.
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Carl DeMaio
We, we have become a state governed by a super majority of Democrats. There is no ballots, there's no check and balance.
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Rob Carson
Yeah. The same things happen in Democrat states all over the country. Nick Hastings or Nick. Nick Shirley was in the state of Maryland two weeks ago. Maryland Democrats are about to get the colonoscopy that they have as long overdue
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Carl DeMaio
because the Democrats control every level of power. And now that we are exposing fraud, they know that with the truth coming out, people could actually go to jail. So what is the California state Senate decide to do and just decide to eliminate any sort of prosecution or punishment for committing fraud. The reason why she's offering that bill is because she knows the truth is about to come out.
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Rob Carson
Yeah. And in Virginia, where Abigail Scamberger is one of the worst approval ratings of a new government in state history, by the way, they wanted to pass a bill that would allow nonprofits NGOs to get unlimited money from the state and federal government and no investigation of fraud and no audits of their spending. It's obvious the Democrat party, a lot of Republicans, but mostly Democrats are a very massive laundry money laundering machine.
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Carl DeMaio
The politicians themselves are involved in the fraud. They are money laundering taxpayer money to political groups. So why would they enforce fraud regulations against people doing it on welfare when the politicians themselves are doing it for political.
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News Reporter
Exactly right. That we've, we've known for a long time. They send a lot of money into green energy. They know they're getting it back. It's all just a scam and they're all in on it. And at best they look the other way.
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Carl DeMaio
Do you know that there's 800,000 Californians? It's the largest employment program, largest job category in California is a family member being being given welfare benefits to be an in home health care aid to another family member. We're talking about people who are now paying union dues. And where do the union dues go? Into a political fund to elect more Democrats to raise your taxes and give more money out.
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Rob Carson
This is a scheme.
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Carl DeMaio
It is money laundering legalized and and
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Rob Carson
we are blessed to have it exposed right now. It's pretty amazing when you think about it. Got more on this coming up. You know when the dollar's convertibility into gold entered in 1971, gold was fixed at $35 an ounce. Fast forward to today. The US dollar has lost 85% of its purchasing power because our government has been printing money. This is why houses cost so much, $400,000 minimum. It's making them impossible to afford them. Gold, on the other hand, has increased in value by 12,000%. Central banks are buying gold, a record amount. Companies like Vanguard BlackRock have significant positions in gold. If you're thinking about investing in precious metals, Birchgold has a wonderful Learn and earn precious metals event. This free online event rewards you for learning the basics of investing in precious metals. Sign up to get free silver on your next purchase. Get even larger incentives as you go. The more you learn, the more you earn. No pressure here, guys. But you gotta act now. This special event runs through April 30th. The dollar has lost its anchor in 1971. You don't have to lose yours. Text my name, Rob to 989-898 to join Birchgold's Learn and Earn Pressure precious Metals event by April 30th. Again, no pressure. They're not going to say buy gold now. They want to say learn more about it. Learn more about it before you diversify your portfolio into precious metals. And Birch Gold is the company I trust because they have my money. They have my money. Okay? I'm not screwing around. They have my money. Text Rob to 989-898. Today, Doug Burns joins us on the other side of the break to talk about a host of things legal, including Judicial Watch uncovering FBI records showing that the Mar A Lago ray, the Mar A Lago raid was unfounded. Yeah, that's coming up. Don't go anywhere. Hey guys, it's Carson. I just got a ghost bed. Yeah, pay attention here because I've been sleeping on a foam mattress since I moved to the Washington, D.C. area, which is like sleeping on the the sponge in your sink. Ghostbed doesn't build mattresses like furniture. They build engineered sleep systems. Their beds are serious health equipment beds designed for relief and recovery, not looks, not fluff. Your body should be healing while you sleep, not fighting for comfort. I have been sleeping past seven in the morning on my ghost bed. It's unbelievable. If you wake up stiff, you toss and turn. If you sleep hot, even reaching for a pain reliever before bed, hoping tonight will be different. That's not aging, it's your mattress talking. Another great thing I love about Ghostbed, you get 101 nights to try it at home. If you don't like the difference, you can send it back. Risk Ghostbed is offering my audience their lowest prices of the season plus an extra 10% off. Go to Ghostbed.com Carson use promo code Carson. That's Ghostbed.com Carson promo code Carson. You are going to love your new ghost bed.
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Tom Fitten
So as the release says here, we obtain the 207 pages of those FBI records that and the headline is they were concerned that there was no probable cause to raid the home of President Trump at Mar A Lago. I'll say it one more time, no probable cause. That means there was no good faith reason to raid his home. And nonetheless, the Biden gang at the Justice Department, with the acquiescence obviously of FBI leadership in the end, because that's the way it technically or practically has to work, raided his home in an unprecedented fashion. And the abuses have reverberated through our national consciousness since then.
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Rob Carson
That is Tom Fitten up Judicial Watch with the big announcement. Not a big surprise to anybody. There was no reason to raid Mar A Lago. It was the first time that the FBI had raided a president's residence after he left office. They planted folders that said, Tom, top secret in all of this and laid out the, the stuff they chased out all of the, the people in Mar a Lago. They asked that the cameras be turned off. It was clearly a use and abuse of the, of the, the law enforcement on the, on the federal level. Joining us to talk about this and so much more is Doug Burns, former federal prosecutor. Doug Burns, welcome to the show. How are you, my friend?
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Doug Burns
Good, Rob. Thank you.
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Rob Carson
Boy, what, what a glorious week we've had, huh? A couple rescued pilots on Easter morning. And then, of course, the dark side of the moon. Doug. The dark side of the moon, man. Pretty amazing, right?
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Doug Burns
Oh, yeah. No, it's incredible. I mean, let's see what happens tonight. Well, yeah, the dark side of the moon on the space thing. Absolutely. For our country, but I thought you meant the dark side in terms of the, you know, Iran situation. Just really quick, you know, it'll be very interesting to see what happens later today and tonight.
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Rob Carson
Well, I think that this is a president who means what he says, says what he means, does what he says he's going to do. I think that's fairly obvious at this point. Don't you believe it.
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Doug Burns
There's no question about it. And also, I want to make a huge, repeat, huge legal point once again. And we've seen this movie over and over and over. Everybody just jumps in with their little Rorschach test and they say, you know, these are war crimes. So let me just very quickly unpack that. If the facilities that are being targeted and struck are used for a military purpose by the enemy, then they can be struck. That's number one. 10 times more important and 10 times more if they are of a dual use. In other words, they're used for civilian purposes and also for military, they can be struck. So again, I just wish everybody would stop with their immediate armchair conclusory, you know, legal conclusions and at least try to learn what the law is. I mean, that's what the law is. And by the way, bridges, as you well know better than anybody, bridges have always historically been hit in military operations. So again, we'll see what happens. My prediction crystal ball is I don't think you'll see this annihilation tonight. I think ultimately they will blink. But we'll see.
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Rob Carson
We'll see. We shall see. I think they're foolish. I think they are. Their pride and hubris will lead to their undoing. It already has, Doug. And I believe this is bigger than military. I've said this over and over again. I think this is a battle of good and evil I think we're seeing. We are the reaction to the action of evil that is spread through the world, and we've got to evil back on its heels. That said, said, let's return to this story about the FBI field agents saying they did not believe probable cause existed to search Mar? A Lago, urging the Justice Department to cooperate with Trump's attorney instead of insisting on the raid. They did it anyway.
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Doug Burns
Well, first of all, Federal Prosecutorial Conduct 101, 2 and 3, real quick, is that if you're deciding to try to obtain evidence, okay, the point is, you discuss whether or not a search warrant is necessary as opposed to a subpoena. And, you know, good, strong, conscientious, ethical DOJ lawyers will say, well, wait a minute. This is the former President of the United States of America, okay? His abode, his residence is guarded by the United states Secret Service 24 hours a day. I see no reason, absolutely no reason zero, why we wouldn't simply issue a subpoena. There's no chance this stuff's going to be destroyed, moved, or compromised, because you
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Rob Carson
can't plant evidence with a subpoena.
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Doug Burns
Doug, I said it before. Yeah, that's a good point, too, Sure. I mean, they took photographs of the stuff stacked up the way they wanted it. That was ridiculous. But the fact of the matter is, I told you the anecdote, and I'll tell it again for your audience. I spoke to a friend of mine who had served that associate Deputy AG that's just, you know, the Assistant to the Deputy Attorney General of the United States. And I said, hey, let's assume a couple of FBI agents walked in to see the dag, the Deputy Attorney General, and they said they wanted to execute a search warrant in kennebunkport at George H.W. bush's house. What would have happened? He said, and I quote, get the F out of my office.
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Carl DeMaio
Wow.
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Doug Burns
That's a direct quote. So the point is, you know, and the other related anecdote is my wife tells me that her sister said that Mar? A Lago was just raided with a search warrant. I would have bet my life, I know that's dramatic, that that was incorrect information, because I said to myself, amelia, there's no way that the FBI would do a search warrant. You know, again, against that backdrop of the subpoena thing, even if you were looking for evidence, there's no way you would do a search warrant. So, I mean, you know, melodramatically, let me say that was the most outrageous law enforcement I've ever Seen in my
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Rob Carson
life this on the heels of the report that came in that there was no Russia collusion in December of 2015, and Donald Trump saying, well, then write a report that says there was. And they carried that through the first couple of years of the Trump administration. It led to an almost immediate impeachment of the President. My God, Doug, what the hell? What the hell happened?
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Doug Burns
Yeah. 10 times more troubling, seriously, 10 times more troubling is the fact that you have people to this day walking around, intelligent people, saying, oh, you know, that search warrant was completely warranted. I mean, the delusion got to such a level that, you know, but my cousin put it really well. He's a graduate of Harvard Law, but he never practiced law to his credit. You know, he did other things, like a renaissance man, just like his dad, my mother's late brother. But the point is, he said, douglas, when anger and emotion, and I've told you this before, Rob, when anger and emotion start overriding reason and logic, this is what you get. You get people. I mean, I went out seriously to launch, I think I might have mentioned this to you, 40 year veteran, DOJ friend of mine, this and that, and he starts right in with the msnow ICE talking points. ICE is terrible. ICE is horrible. I looked at him across the table. I said, you gotta be kidding me. With your background, first of all, all you're doing is regurgitating what you're hearing in media. You don't know. I mean, are you crazy? We worked with federal agents for 20 years. It was just breathtaking. I couldn't believe it.
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Rob Carson
Do you know why they called the, the ICE agents fascists and Nazis? Because I stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Enforcement, Doug. That's what it's all about. Let me ask you this about Pam Bondi being relieved of her position. Who would you like to see in there? And what did you think of her? I mean, she obviously did a lot. They got the seven of the ten most wanted. They have the lowest murder rate in history. Child sex traffickers. All of this. What do you suppose led to her relief? And what do you want to see from whoever is replaced?
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Doug Burns
Well, you have the legal and the political as always, so legally, and I was glad that some of this permeated through most recently you a minute ago, which is she did a lot of good things. Murder rates way, way down. Other major accomplishments, the border, all good. But politically, the problem was that when she said she had this Epstein list, again, everybody can make a mistake and say something they shouldn't say. But that was real whopper because then the media just became hysterical that you see that there are these wealthy, important people who they pimped out underage girls, too.
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Rob Carson
And also we need to see people hauled away in handcuffs. Yeah, we need some arrest, Doug. That's it.
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Doug Burns
So she did poorly there. And then the other part, which you can debate back and forth whether it's proper and so on, is I know how you feel about it. We've been over this many times. But going after the people who completely abused the system against him, and that's Comey Letitia James, and I don't blame him for being extremely upset that she was not able to do it. And I drew the football coach analogy, which is, you know, to all the pundits, every single one of you guys who say that wasn't her fault, it doesn't matter. When the team loses, the coach faces firing.
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Rob Carson
All right, let's take a break and come back more with Doug Burns, former federal prosecutor on the Rob Carson Show. Don't go anywhere.
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Mark Wade Mullen
I believe sanctuary cities is not lawful. I don't, I don't think they're able to do that. And so we're going to take a hard look at this. Just one area we may take a hard look at is some of these, some of these cities have international airports. If they're a sanctuary city, should they really be processing customs into, into their city? I mean, seriously, if they're a sanctuary city and they're receiving international flights and we're asking them to partner with us at the airport, but once they walk out of the airport, they're not going to enforce immigration policy. Maybe we need to have a really hard look at that because we need to focus on cities that want to work with us.
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Rob Carson
So you're saying that big cities that are sanctuary cities that have a big airport, they might lose their customs?
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Mark Wade Mullen
Well, I'm saying we're going to have to start prioritizing things at some point right now. Remember, the Democrats are wanting to defund customs, Border patrol. Well, who, who processes those individuals and they walk off the plane. And so I'm going to have to be forced to make hard decisions. Who's willing to work with us and partner with us?
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Rob Carson
Once again, it's kind of interesting, Mark Wade Mullen, new DHS director, talking about, you know, if you're going to be a sanctuary city, how can you have an international airport hub in your city? Doug Burns, this, this kind of, I'm kind of trying to wrap my head around this. What can DHS do To. To force these cities to change their policies.
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Doug Burns
Well, there's a huge legal distinction here. So in other words, as terrible and horrible as it is, when you have, you know, mayors and this and that, you know, local governments saying they're going to operate, you know, in some type of sanctuary fashion, this is 10 times worse, Rob, because if you're talking about an international port of call now, that's clearly, you know, a matter of federal law enforcement, federal immigration. I mean, U.S. customs and Border Protection, CBP agents, they operate at more than 300 ports of entry, including international airports. Okay. And so, you know, he's saying that he may very well take a look at removing them from these airports if they're going to openly say they're not going to assist. I mean, again, not to be a broken record, but absolutely huge distinction in the sense that you cannot, repeat, cannot have sanctuary concepts at an international port of call where United States Customs and Border Patrol and Immigration. Immigration and Customs Enforcement have jurisdiction. So this is running off the rails. Glad to see him say it. I'm not so sure practically what he's going to be able to do. I got to think that one over a little more.
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Rob Carson
Well, yeah, I got to think about the implications of it, because there has to be some sort of monitoring of these international airports. And if. If TSA or DHS is not involved, does that allow wholesale entry into the country from anybody?
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Doug Burns
I don't know that that's the question. But again, my. My positive answer is that even if you were to pull personnel and stuff, I mean, I can. You'll still have, you know, decent enforcement.
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Rob Carson
But what about shutting down international flights?
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Doug Burns
Yeah, very possible.
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Rob Carson
That would be. That would be.
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Doug Burns
Fly into a sanctuary airport. You know, an airport that's in a sanctuary jurisdiction. The flight is canceled. I mean, that's. That's sort of what they're getting at. Which is.
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Show Announcer
Yeah.
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Doug Burns
Penalization, Right. Yeah.
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Rob Carson
Yeah. The main Supreme Court struck down an expansion of ranked choice voting to general elections as unconstitutional. A win for the Maine gop, a huge victory. Ranked choice voting. What the hell? Who decided ranked choice voting was appropriate or legal?
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Doug Burns
Yeah, Ranked choice voting is ridiculous. And frankly, I've struggled to really understand it. And all you. Miller.
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Rob Carson
I know.
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Doug Burns
So the point is, you have. Have three candidates. We do a real fast hypothetical, and instead of voting for my candidate, I rank them 1, 2, 3. And if. No, if nobody gets 50. If somebody gets 50%, they win. Okay, keep it simple. If nobody gets 50. And here's the part I don't understand. They literally Take like your second choice and move it up. It's ridiculous. But the point is for the legal buffs in your vast audience, you know, this was interesting because it was an advisory opinion. So hear me out real quick. The main concern constitution allows you to consult the main courts for advisory opinions. We all learned in high school social studies big time. There's no advisory opinions in the U.S. federal courts because the U.S. constitution demands an actual case or controversy. So that was interesting. And they issued an opinion saying that the main constitution, you find this interesting, says that the governor and the state legislator slots can be won by a plurality of votes. Votes doesn't have to be a majority and that the rank choice thing conflicts with it. And it's no good that that's what I'm glad they did.
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Rob Carson
I am too actually. Well, this has been, this has been pretty darn fascinating today, Doug, as always, by the way.
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Doug Burns
Thank you.
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Rob Carson
I appreciate you. We'll see what happens tonight at 8 o' clock and then what happens afterwards. And I do believe that we that evil is on its heels and I think amazing things are ahead for us. The potential of the Iranian people and the Persians and whatnot, I think is definitely is finally here. Thanks for your time today, Doug. I appreciate you.
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Doug Burns
Thanks for having me on. Rob, good to talk.
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Rob Carson
God bless. God bless. We'll talk soon. All right, cool. There you go. Doug Burns. Fascinating, right? Any interesting? Any interesting? I want to mention something real quick before we go to break. Had another brilliant night's sleep last night and people have been asking me on online which ghost bed I have. There is a let me look it up here real quick because I want you to be able to try my bed. The ghost bed is the best I've ever slept in my life. You get this, this bed in a big box and you roll it out and it just goes boing like this. I have the Ghost Bed Luxe foam, the coolest bed in the world. It is pretty, not too firm, not too much cooling. It is the best I've ever slept in my life. I slept until 7 o' clock this morning, which I never do. The sun is waking me up. Go to ghostbed.com for 10% off. And by the way, these beds are an unbelievable value. When they see the price versus what is available at a brick and mortar store, you're going to go, holy crap. I mean, or even any other names out there, any other beds you can order online? Ghostbed.com Carson Ghostbed.com Carson I'm telling you, it has just changed everything. For me, sleeping was a punchline. Sleeping to me was a waste of time. Laying in bed all night was a waste of time. I could be doing better things. I was waking up feeling terrible, feeling unrested, not looking forward to sleep. Now when I am done with my work, I can't wait to get in bed and sleep all stinking night. It's amazing. Ghostbed.com Carson Ghostbed.com Carson let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. All right, so we got a lot of stuff to get to before the end of the show.
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Tyrus
Show.
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Rob Carson
It looks like Eric swallows. Well, swallow, swallow is, is, you know, about ready to catch some heat because he has a habit of, I guess, trying to seduce or maybe even force, you know, allegedly young women in his office to, you know, succumb to his sexual demands. We will talk about that very shortly on the show. Also, also, also, Tim Burchett is out talking about the possibility that, that ufo, that aliens are actually here and, and actually maybe breeding with. With humans. I know, I know, I know, I know. Speaking of proof that there are space aliens here on the planet, have you watched James Carville lately? Lost his mind. Completely lost his mind. Everything he says is an obscene screed about Donald Trump. I mean, foaming in the mouth insanity. And Jim Gossett just put this together about James Carville as James Carville on the Rob Carson show.
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T D S T D S James Covell has tds. Will I land in a sock ward? That is anybody's guess. It's for sure. I'm insane.
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Boom.
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I really can't explain why for Donald Trump I have so much disdain. I'm as crazy as a loon. I'm gonna crack up soon. It's expanding like a big balloon. It's gotten even worse. It's gonna be my curse. Tds, tds tds, tds. TDS is in derangement. I say yes whenever Trump is mentioned. I become a giant mess. It causes me such pain. Pain I can't contain of my existence. He has been a bane like Ellen and Rosie in our brain. He lives rent free driven me as crazy as can be. It's something I can't shake. How much more can I take? Tds, tds, tds.
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Doug Burns
There you go.
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Rob Carson
Jeff Gossett. Jeff Gossett. You're only going to hear it on this show. The only conservative, I would say any political talk show in America that features comedy to make a point. Just like I did with Rush Limbaugh for a very good part of my life. It's alive and well here and only here because the left can't be taken seriously anymore. Patreon.com Jim Gossett comedy patreon.com Jim GosslettComedy hour number three of the Rob Carson show, right ahead. If I were you, I wouldn't go anywhere.