The Art of Compliance

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Rob Carson Show

Episode: The Art of Compliance
Date: June 17, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)

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Episode Overview

On this lively and humor-infused episode of The Rob Carson Show, Rob tackles major political, cultural, and media developments with his trademark satire. The show’s central theme revolves around the “Memorandum of Understanding” (the "Moo")—a new U.S. agreement with Iran following the assassination of the Ayatollah, and its unprecedented political fallout. Alongside political commentary and parody, Rob hosts special guest Greta Van Susteren, who discusses her experiences in journalism, her new podcast, and insights on interviewing notable personalities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Iranian “Moo” and Military Policy

[01:32–12:44]

• The "Memorandum of Understanding" with Iran: Rob Carson humorously dubs it the "Moo" and characterizes it as a simple, hardline approach—if Iran steps out of line, military force will follow.
  • Trump’s stance: “If I don’t like it, we’ll go back to shooting at them, dropping bombs on their head.” (Donald Trump, 01:32, 09:51, 39:23)
• Parody Segment: Involves song humor and satire about Iran and U.S. power, featuring impersonations of Trump and Iranian leaders.
• Democratic Response: Rob lambasts Democrats for opposing the military action and for aligning with Iranian propaganda, accusing them of not supporting U.S. troops and national interests.
  • Quote: “This is the first time that the Democrat Party has absolutely refuted the military...” (Rob Carson, 04:23)
• Impact on Oil and Markets: Rob highlights Trump’s strategy for keeping oil prices stable during the crisis and contrasts it with Biden’s policies.
  • Gas prices remained stable, credited to Trump’s policy, while Biden is criticized for earlier spikes in price and inflation.

2. Panel Discussion: Aftermath and Policy Details

[09:50–12:44]

• International Collaboration: Policy analysts discuss how the deal incentivizes Iranian compliance through an “Arab-funded Marshall Plan” rather than U.S. tax dollars.
  • “If the Iranians transform how they interact with the world, we will transform how the world economy interacts with Iran.” (Policy Analyst, 12:13)
• Sanctions and Leverage: Strict conditions—if Iran violates terms, economic and military consequences will be reinstated.
  • Quote: “If you don’t, we’ll kick your teeth in.” (Rob Carson, 12:20)

3. American Identity and Polarization

[14:07–18:41]

• Patriotism Divide: New polls show declining patriotism among Democrats; only 18% say they’re proud to be American, 55% would rather live elsewhere.
  • Rob's Take: “We’re going to go ahead and celebrate our 250th birthday without you because honestly, you suck.” (14:47)
• Fourth of July Meaning: J.D. Vance and Rob note Republicans view Independence Day as a time to celebrate America, while for Democrats, it’s more about friends/family time.
  • Quote: “Even on the basic question of what July 4th means to you…Republicans saying ‘celebrate America’…Democrats on the other end.” (J.D. Vance, 18:04)
• Rob’s Social Critique: Riffs on spoiled entitlement, “hate America” narratives, and social divisiveness resulting from leftist policies.
  • Quote: “[You] gobbled up all this hate America crap. So we’re gonna go ahead and celebrate the party here.” (Rob Carson, 16:33)

4. Turnaround Narratives: The “Trump Effect”

[19:22–20:15]

• Post-Darkness Optimism: Steven Turley and Rob discuss how “the Trump Effect” has made people realize they don’t have to accept decline and disorder.
  • Crime reduction, economic improvement, and cultural resurgence in D.C. attributed to recent policy changes.
  • Quote: “We don’t need to live in darkness any longer.” (Rob Carson, 19:22; Steven Turley, 19:25)

5. Greta Van Susteren Interview: Journalism & Broadcasting Insights

[23:18–38:09]

• Podcasting’s Rise: Greta shares the evolution of her own podcasts and the advantages of connecting with audiences in new media.
  • Quote: “In a television show…you have time constraints. In podcasting you zero in on what you want to ask.” (Greta Van Susteren, 24:16)
• Culture/Women in Media: Rob and Greta exchange industry war stories, discuss the competitive nature of TV versus radio, and highlight trust/credibility as the currency of modern journalism.
  • Greta recollects both “good” and “bad” experiences with TV personalities (Joy Reid and Don Lemon anecdotes).
  • Quote: “Credibility will be the huge value in any news person.” (Greta Van Susteren, 27:17)
• Favorite Interviews: Greta discusses her long friendship and memorable interviews with Mike Tyson, as well as stories involving Muhammad Ali and the Osbournes.
  • Quote: “[Mike Tyson] was fascinating. He was like an encyclopedia. He made boxing exciting.” (Greta Van Susteren, 31:44)
  • Quote: “I met Sharon [Osbourne] …they were, quote, you know, regular people, normal people, became really close friends.” (Greta Van Susteren, 36:16)
• Who’s the Dream Interview?: Rob mentions Lionel Richie; Greta remembers her first concert was Frank Zappa.

6. Closing Loop: Policy Recap & Iran

[39:23–42:16]

• KT McFarland’s Take: The U.S. strategy is military deterrence and coalition-building; Iran will only access Marshall Plan-style funds if it reforms.
  • Quote: “With President Trump, he’s bringing all of those Gulf Arab countries in on it… Without their buy-in, the agreement could never stand.” (KT McFarland, 40:21)
• Rob expresses skepticism about financial aid to Iran; says regime change is a prerequisite for further engagement.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Notable Quote/Highlight | |-----------|-----------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:32 | Donald Trump (imp.) | “If I don’t like it, we'll go back to shooting at them, dropping bombs on their head.” | | 04:23 | Rob Carson | “This is the first time that the Democrat Party has absolutely refuted the military…” | | 10:36 | Donald Trump | “Most importantly, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon.” | | 12:13 | Policy Analyst | “If the Iranians transform how they interact with the world, we will transform how the world economy interacts with Iran.” | | 14:47 | Rob Carson | “We’re going to go ahead and celebrate our 250th birthday without you because honestly, you suck.” | | 18:04 | J.D. Vance | “…Even on the basic question of what July 4th means to you…Republicans saying ‘celebrate America’…Democrats on the other end.” | | 19:25 | Steven Turley | “Voters are realizing that things don’t have to be this way… they’re tired of the rampant crime, rampant inflation…” | | 24:16 | Greta Van Susteren | “In a television show… you have time constraints… Podcasting, you zero in on the question you want to ask.” | | 27:17 | Greta Van Susteren | “Credibility will be the huge value in any news person.” | | 31:44 | Greta Van Susteren | “[Mike Tyson] was fascinating. He was like an encyclopedia. He made boxing exciting.” | | 36:16 | Greta Van Susteren | “I called Sharon [Osbourne]…they were…regular people, became really close friends.” | | 40:21 | KT McFarland | “With President Trump, he’s bringing all of those Gulf Arab countries in on it… Without their buy-in, the agreement could never stand.” |

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Segment Timestamps

• 01:32–04:23 – Satirical intro & Iran “Moo” agreement parody
• 04:23–12:44 – Iran, U.S. military policy, oil prices, partisan reactions
• 14:07–18:41 – Polling: American pride, July 4th divide, cultural commentary
• 19:22–20:15 – The “Trump Effect” and societal turnaround
• 23:18–38:09 – Greta Van Susteren interview: media, interviews, podcasting, boxing anecdotes, journalism
• 39:23–42:16 – Policy recap with KT McFarland, Iran coalition strategy

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Tone and Atmosphere

Rob Carson’s energetic, tongue-in-cheek, sometimes irreverent style dominates, using parody, direct political commentary, and playful banter with guests. Greta Van Susteren’s segment brings a grounded, reflective contrast, providing behind-the-scenes details of national media and her high-profile interviews, while both share an easy rapport shaped by broadcast “war stories.”

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For Listeners Seeking Takeaways

• Iran "Moo": Hardball diplomacy—robust military deterrence, coalition leverage, potential for Arab-funded reconstruction, contingent on compliance.
• U.S. Politics: Sharply drawn lines over patriotism and truth in media; polarization on national pride.
• Media & Culture: The shift to podcasting offers new authenticity and connection; trust and credibility are now media’s most valuable commodities.
• Personalities: Greta Van Susteren offers anecdotes on Tyson, Ali, the Osbournes, and the changing culture of television journalism.

If you want informed insight colored with humor and directness—plus stories from the trenches of media and politics—this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

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[Donald Trump]

No, it's not final. It's a memorandum of understanding. And if I don't like it, we'll go back to shooting at them, dropping bombs on their head. If I don't like it, if they don't behave, we'll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. That's the accord right there. The moo. It's called the moo. Member of Understanding.

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

Props. Attack. Stop the cine tracks. The Ayatollah's gone. I understand.

[Rob Carson]

We'll kick your ass.

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

Knew in advance we didn't have a chance. The battle lines are drawn. You just blew us up, Donald. You dropped the bomb on us. You took us out and we're not. No doubt. And now we're history. Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

The Navy's underwater.

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

My cover's blown.

[Rob Carson]

You sent a drone and not the

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

submarines and somehow it found me. Then you blew me up.

[Rob Carson]

You dropped the bomb on Iran, baby.

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

You dropped the bomb on me. You had your fill. Now I'm her kill. There ain't much left of me.

[Rob Carson]

Jim Gossett, by the way, AOC will

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

shed tears for me. And so will Mr. Leave. I'll give sympathy from NBC to blame it on BB when you blew us

[Rob Carson]

up, you dropped the bomb on Iran.

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

BB Trumpet, you dropped the bomb on me.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, you did.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah you did. Oh, no, there you go.

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

Not again.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Boom.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. There you go. So welcome to the show. Please come inside. How's everybody doing today? How you doing? It's already Wednesday. Yeah, the memorandum of understanding, which is, you mess around, you better understand you're gonna get your rear end kicked up between your shoulders. So that's it essentially. And of course the Democrat Party, they're B wording and moaning because they have never ever. I mean, this is the first time that we've had a military action. I mean, it started to happen with, you know, George W. Bush right after 9 11. It took a few months before the Democrats started saying that we had had lost Harry Reid, remember him? And Dick Turban as Rush Limbaugh used to call him. It took a few months. It took day one for the Democrats to immediately disparage our military with Chris Murphy declaring on day one when we killed the Ayatollah, who's almost like a God figure to the followers of the Ayatollah in Iran, killed him on day one, vaporized his rear end. And then they got together to choose another Ayatollah and we found out where they the meeting was and we blew the snot out of that because intel showed there was a truckload of goats wearing lingerie headed to a location. And so they knew it was going to be the Ayatollah and his friends having a little party. So we blew the snot out of them. And then we made the second Ayatollah, his gay son, into a cardboard Ayatollah. And then we just bombed the snot out of them. We destroyed 90 plus percent of their missiles, the capabilities. Chris Murphy says, no, no, they've still got 70%. He's high. The Democrat Party has literally gone into confidential briefings, left the briefings and lied about what was said there. This is the first time that the Democrat Party has absolutely refuted the military, the Southern Command, all of the people who are presenting the videos and the statistics and whatnot and have sided with the Iranians and listen to the Iranians. If the Iranians say, oh no, no, no, they have only destroy 1% of our missiles, then Chris Murphy will immediately say we've only destroyed 1% of our missiles. That's how bad the Democrat Party is. Just another way that the Democrat Party beyond sucks, I mean just beyond sucks. And I Hope you will remember that. That all of you military members, I hope you will remember that this Democrat Party never had your back. Never had your back at all. And literally prayed to Satan or whatever that you would. Because Donald Trump is the president. You have a Democrat Party who couldn't even celebrate the thought of a new generation of young women growing up in Iran without being beaten to death for showing their hair. You know, stuff like that. And then, of course, the Democrat Party also cited and listened to and even, even Joe Scarborough. Dear God, what up? My God, boy, be careful. FCC rules. Joe Scarborough said, well, that's not what the Iranian leaders are saying. Well, you idiot, the Iranian leaders just murdered 40,000 of their citizens for speaking out. So, okay, go with that, Joe. Go with that, Joe. The guy who said that Joe Biden's brain was the best it had ever been. And then a couple months later, he melted down in a debate, and there was no doubt that his brain was completely fried. That said, the price of oil is down, the price of gas is down. I don't know where you filled up, but the other day. I filled up the other day before the moo was signed, the Memorandum of Understanding. The moo. He was trending on Twitter today. It's nothing to do with the View Cast. Nothing to do with the View Cast. All right, the moo and the gas had already dropped $3.61 where I was. And did you notice that gas never went through the ceiling? Gas never got above where Joe Biden took it when he allowed Russia to invade Ukraine. And he said, if it goes $200 a barrel. He was asked about, if it did that, how long you willing to do that? He said, however long it takes. And then, of course, the price of everything went through the ceiling, and it stayed up there since because he caused it. Okay, so there's that. And then along comes Donald Trump. And Donald Trump, he makes it. So we got oil from Iran and got it through the straits while all this was happening and kept the international oil market steady, barely going over $100 a barrel. That was genius. Joe Biden could have never done. Generally, his day ended at around noon, and by that time, he'd already had several bowel movements in his pants. So that's your president, Joe Biden. And by the way, Hillary Clinton agrees. She says that running him running was the worst mistake ever. Now she says that. Now she says that, of course, the Democrat Party are throwing Joe Biden under the bus, as they should. By the way, Jill Biden's new book, I think it's called First Lady Diary of a Woman who Dresses like a Couch. Okay, are you ready for this? The woman whose husband got 81 million votes. Okay, sure, whatever. Sold 20,000 copies. 20,000 copies in a country of what, 350 million people. We got 350 million people like that. You'd think she could do a little better than that, but nobody gives a rats behind about her sorry, bleep husband and her. Because she's the first ditz of America. And so nobody cares. Nobody wants to read a memorandum about your. Not a memorandum, A memorial. What the hell? I don't even know what it is. It's a. It's a memorial. No, it's a. You know what? It's a trip down memory lane. Joe Biden trips down memory lane. Like he tripped up the stairs going on to Air Force One. So there is 20,000 copies. That's all she sold. And somehow the New York Times ranks her number one on the best seller. 20,000 copies. It's like Gavin Newsom, he wrote a book that nobody read. 70% of the copies of his book were bought by his organization. I don't know if it's his ngo, is his wife's NGO or whatever, but yeah, sold no copies because nobody cares about these people because they're despicable. There you go. Here is Donald Trump talking about the. The moo. Has Iran said they would welcome the US Coming in?

[Greta Van Susteren]

What?

[Political Commentator]

How specific?

[Donald Trump]

Iran will be just fine. What's happening is that at an appropriate time. There's no rush. No, at all.

[Rob Carson]

60 days.

[Donald Trump]

We have cameras from space on it. We know everybody that goes there, which is like nobody. The B2 bombers hit it. The entire mountain collapsed inside it.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, like Mount St. Helens.

[Donald Trump]

Tough excavation.

[Steven Turley]

Yeah.

[Policy Analyst]

Trump's not stressed. On Friday, the strait opens.

[Rob Carson]

War is over and oil's flowing.

[Donald Trump]

Ships are starting to move. Now we're going to have it fully open by Friday. The ships are starting to move nicely. Oil is starting to go and the prices are coming down rapidly. Stock market is going up rapidly. A lot of good things are happening.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Donald Trump]

Most importantly, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon.

[Rob Carson]

They will not. And the stock market was at 52,000 today. Unheard of, unheard of. Ladies and gentlemen, here is J.D. vance. He was all over yesterday. He was on the View. Pick a little, talk a little. And all of that yesterday he was on the five. He was on Gutfeld last night talking about how Iran doesn't get a D word for Richard unless they comply.

[J.D. Vance]

Yeah, so?

[Policy Analyst]

So just let me Address a couple of things, because I think you're making the same mistake, unfortunately, that a lot of the Iranian propagandists make when they talk about this, which is.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, this is on the View. They talk about the Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal is at left, the center.

[Donald Trump]

Oh, my God.

[Rob Carson]

Don't you believe the government of Iran. Don't you remember the. Don't you believe in the IRGC fits

[Policy Analyst]

to the Iranians without any of the things the Iranians would have to give up and have to change in order to get those benefits. So you mentioned a $300 billion fund. I got to be very clear about this. Not a sing American money under any circumstance, no matter what the Iranians do.

[Rob Carson]

It's like a Marshall Plan paid for by the Arabs.

[Policy Analyst]

Who goes to Iran? Not a single.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I said Arabs. What the hell of American other.

[Policy Analyst]

Here's, here's what this says. This is, for example, let's say that the United Arab Emirates, who have been a great ally, let's say they, that's

[Rob Carson]

Arab Emirates, want to invest in a

[Policy Analyst]

power plant in Iran. What this deal provides is that if the Iranians have done everything we require them to do, then we will allow the United Arab Emirates to do that, because they can't do that right now without American approval. So we're.

[Rob Carson]

He got all these other countries involved. That's how he did it. He kept the oil prices low. And they, they made the foolhardy decision to attack other Arab nations. And so now all of this, you've got the entire Arab nations working to make this work at our behest, fundamentally

[Policy Analyst]

saying if the Iranians transform how they interact with the world, we will transform how the world economy interacts with Iran.

[Rob Carson]

And if you don't, we'll kick your teeth then.

[Policy Analyst]

But if they don't do any of that stuff, they don't get any of these benefits. And to Jesse's point, if they don't do any of these things, we don't give them anything. They don't receive anything. Their nuclear program is still destroyed. Their military is still destroyed. Their missile program and industrial base is still destroyed. We fundamentally have transformed the Middle East. Whether they comply or not, this is just icing on the cake. Assuming they do all the right thing.

[Rob Carson]

That is a yummy, yummy cake, isn't it? On the way, a little bit more on this, we've got a host of guests. Greta Von Suster is going to join us on the show today to talk about world events. And also she got a new podcast we got Hillary Ford, which on to talk about Great Britain. A lot of Brits coming over. We're realizing that their country sucks and ours is absolutely awesome. That's why. That's why we Left there like 250 years ago or actually more. But anyway, all of that is coming up. If you want to chime in. 800-922-6680. This is the Rob Carson Show.

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[Political Commentator]

According to an Elon University poll that just came out, only 18% of Democrats. Democrats say they're proud to be an American. 18% think about that. According to the same poll, 55% of Democrats said they would rather live in another country. Altogether 55%. NBC poll comes out yesterday. And only 12% of Kamala Harris voters say they're proud to be an American. 12% and only 29% of Democrats said they were proud to be an American.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know what? We're going to go ahead and celebrate our 250th birthday without you because honestly, you suck. Honestly, you fell for the, the, the nonsense about the history of America. You, you, you tore down the statues. You didn't realize because you're so bloody spoiled that you can sit on your rear end in your house and order anything you want by Uber eats and have it delivered. Or, or, or, you know, anything off of Amazon and have it delivered. And then you can, you can mouth off about how bad America sucks and how, you know, slavery and all of this nonsense. You fell for all of that. Now we got people coming in from all over the world and seeing things like a BUC EE's or noticing, oh, my God, you have the Second Amendment here in Great Britain. I got some audio. We'll share with you later. Britain over here realizing how badly that the culture has been emasculated and how the people have been disarmed. And there are rape gangs all over the country. There are 149 regions in Great Britain where sanctioned rape has been allowed by the government because they didn't want to use racism or Islamophobia. They didn't want to face those kind of, those kind of labels that happened all over the world. We've kind of rejected him here, by the way. Here is Harry Enton over on cnn. He sounds like an old timey baseball announcer talking about the Democrat Party and how they remember when we were growing up. I'm talking to Gen X, hope you don't mind. Or, you know, millennials too. You guys, you guys, even Gen Z, you remember to some degree. Maybe you didn't hear America rocks as part of Schoolhouse Rocks, but we great American melting pot. You know, all things. We were proud. We were proud to be Americans. And the reason why we were proud to be Americans in the 70s, 80s and 90s was because we recognized that America was awesome and they weren't teaching hate America by Marxist communists in schools. And they weren't, you know, taking down the American flag and replacing my rainbow flag and all of this crap. So he allowed a bunch of spoiled children to throw a temper tantrum for at least the last 30 years. Had a president named Barack Obama who hated America in office, got a lot of this nonsense, really set it on fire. And I think we're finally at a point where, like, you know, I think we're kind of done, kind of done with this, with this nonsense. But you Democrats, you fell for it. You fell for all of it. The only people still wearing masks for interest, for instance, years after Covid, are liberal Democrats because you gobble it up. You said, if I were a mask, I'll survive. And if I stand six feet from somebody, I'll survive. And you drank it all. Like baby birds having their mother's stomach contents vomited into their waiting mouths. You gobble it up. You gobbled it up and then you gobble up all this hate America crap. So we're gonna go ahead and celebrate the party here. Have a good time. Like the ufc. That was just the beginning. The UFC was just the beginning of it. And you guys could just sit there and stew in your own, in your own darkness.

[J.D. Vance]

This, to me is one of the most stunning divides that we have seen. You know, we're talking about polarization in politics.

[Rob Carson]

It even Democrats, bipolarization, I think comes

[J.D. Vance]

down to what you believe July 4th actually is like. What does July 4th, meaning you celebrate America, friends and family time among Republicans. What do you see? You see the clear majority say it's a time to celebrate America, 65%. Among Democrats, however, the plurality disagree. Look at that. What do you see? Friends and family time at 42% versus just 24% who said say that what it means most to them is to celebrate America. So even on the basic question of what July 4th means to you, we have Republicans on one end saying, celebrate America, more of them say that, and Democrats on the other end saying that it means more to them to have time with friends and family.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it's because you got your rear ends kicked in the last election. And despite trying to put Donald Trump in jail and take his fortune and impeach him twice and saddle him with a fake Russia collusion hoax and then murder him now, four, you failed. You failed. And you. And now you can just stew in your own darkness because, you know, Donald Trump has already made America great, made Washington, D.C. beautiful again. Here is something that Steven Turley brought up. And I told you my mantra has been we don't need to live in darkness any longer. And here is Dr. Steven Turley basically saying the same thing. We don't need to live in darkness any longer.

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

Here.

[Rob Carson]

Let's see. We'll get this. Voters are realizing sometimes, Instagram, they're calling

[Steven Turley]

it the Trump Effect.

[Rob Carson]

It is.

[Steven Turley]

Voters are realizing that things don't have to be this way. No, that the left has done something that they don't have to live with. They're tired of the rampant crime. They're tired of the rampant inflation. They're tired of watching Venezuela, the crown jewel of the Latin American left, become a catastrophic, failed state that sent 8 million refugees fleeing across the continent. When you live next door to the left's greatest experiment and you watch it produce mass starvation and just blatant dictatorship, all the while seeing El Salvador and Argentina flourishing economically, socially, culturally, I mean, the choice is rather obvious.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And it's also obvious in states like California, where it's the number one state for people leaving the state. Same goes with New York, New York City City and other Democrat states. People leaving because the left makes things awful. And in Washington, D.C. this place was a crap hole when I moved here about a year ago and Donald Trump brought in the National Guard. All of the fountains are flowing. They were latrines for the homeless. Union Station was a Charlie Foxtrot when I moved here. Nobody went there. You just got dropped off and got on the train. There was a stupid tent of a bunch of Trump haters out in front of it for years. There was a homeless encampment across with people walking around with needles in their arms and graffiti and no water in the fountain. And now it's glorious. We don't have to live in darkness anymore. The only people who want to continue that darkness are members of the Democrat Party and those are mostly in leadership. That's why so many people are also leaving the Democrat Party en masse. There you go again. 250th anniversary of the United States of America and the UFC fight was just the beginning. It's only going to get bigger and better. Sorry. If you don't want to come to the party, stay home. Graniman Suster joins us next. Don't go anywhere. Hey guys, it's Carson for Relief Factor. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Those words weren't written for history books, they were written for you. But it's hard to pursue happiness when pain is a part of your everyday life. Relief Factor was created to help people address inflammation, one of the most common causes of ongoing aches and pains from aging, over exertion and daily living. It's a 100% drug free research based formula that works through multiple metabolic pathways to support comfort and mobility. No prescription, no masking symptoms, just real relief so you can keep moving forward. I work out every other day. I crush it at the gym and I ride my bike 100 miles on the weekend.

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[Rob Carson]

I'm thinking that granite Von Susserin you're selling your. You're selling yourself short there because I'm thinking you have quite a work ethic. Greta Von Suster in Newsmax and has a new podcast. Greta Wire. Welcome to the Rob Carson Show. How are you on this glorious Wednesday, Rob?

[Greta Van Susteren]

I'm great. I'm thrilled to be here. Thank you for inviting me.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely. So you are entering the brave new world of podcasting.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Actually, I've got a little history Is that.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, please.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Okay. Podcast. In about 2010, at my last job, we called it Greta Talk. And then when I left that job, I just let it go, and here we are again.

[Rob Carson]

You were breaking new ground then. I am thrilled by the new media landscape. A lot of people are scared of it. I think it's pretty amazing because you can reach more people, and more importantly, Greta, you can connect with them in a way that you can't as like a news anchor or host. What do you think?

[Greta Van Susteren]

Oh, that's absolutely 100% true. Because in a television show, first of all, oftentimes, I mean, the person realizes on TV and sometimes gets a little nervous. Politicians will give you sound bites. But you also have time constraints. You got to get that commercial break so you can't develop it. When I used to put witnesses on the witness stand, you know, you dodge them all the time and you move around and you keep moving like on a basketball court. So then you zero in on the question you want asked.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, and I'm. My kids are Gen zers and they suffered through Covid. They were separated from one another. My son's college career, my daughter's high school career, kind of ruined that way socially. But the interesting thing is, I think it brought them together. Podcasting right now, and particularly audio podcasting, is bigger. The aural media is bigger than it was when our grandparents just had a radio. And I think that Gen Z likes it because of the human connection.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Yeah, I agree. Although I sort of feel like ground zero for Covid because I cut so many classes in high school that I was never there. So I sort of feel like I went through Covid way ahead of everybody because I didn't have much connection with anybody at school. But I mean, having said that, is that.

[KT McFarland]

Yeah, I know.

[Greta Van Susteren]

It's like you can. It's the big thing is it's on demand, too. You can watch when you want. I remember when I was a kid, you wanted to watch something on tv. We'd all sit around waiting for the wizard of Oz. We'd know months in advance what Saturday night it's going to play. And then we all got ready for. For now you can just do it when you want. When you watch it. When you want to watch it.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you know, it is interesting. And remember the. The ABC movie of the week? Do you remember appointment television watching whether my one night it might be all in the family. Then it. Then it became, you know, other programs all the way up to American Idol that were those. That was appointment television watching and do you feel like a point? I mean, obviously we have you. You have a slot in the newsmax lineup. We all do. So people do appointment watch news programming. Do you Appointment viewing is. Is becoming a much smaller niche?

[Greta Van Susteren]

Well, I think it is, except for one thing. It's like news is like sports. You know, you've got to watch it live. You can't watch it later. And so to the extent that people want to be on the cutting edge of what's going on, they will flip on the news and watch the news. But. But it is, it is. It is much different today than it was when I started in the business 30 years ago. But people still want to be the first to know, although they are getting. The problem is they're getting their alerts on their telephones. Their phones are vibrating with alerts. So they are getting it. But if they want a little bit more, chances are we can reach a little bit further faster on television. But the big thing is the liability. I mean, every time my husband says something to me about something that he heard something I said, where do you get that? You know? And so, you know, I want to know who he heard it from. Because what we are going to eventually have, it's going to boil down to who has credibility, who hasn't, you know, who hasn't lied to you before, who hasn't been done with the facts or something. So I think credibility will be the huge value in any news person.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

And if you see people like, say, for instance, Joy Reid, I wouldn't really consider here a journalist per se. You've got Jim Acosta there, people, Don Lemon, who have, who have been relieved of their duties at the network works. Do you suppose.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Can I give you a little gossip about both of them?

[Rob Carson]

Please, please.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Give you a Joy Reid. I was told she passed. I was at MSNBC for six months before I got fired. Yeah. But by the rate, my reins are up 94%. They just didn't like me in less than six months. But Joy Reid was passing, supposedly passing a petition around to get rid of me and then lobbying behind. She wanted. She wanted my job anyway, so that's her now, I'll tell you. Don't Lemons back in about. I don't know when it was that Michael Jackson died, but we all went out to California and I was at the time at fox. He was at cnn and he was a reporter. I didn't know who he was because it was just early on in his career and we were all sitting in Howard Weitzman's office who was the lawyer for Michael Jackson's estate. And we all had a slot in time when we could interview him. And then once I got the interview and it was on a VHS tape and the camera. The old ways, I to get it across town to the Fox bureau and get it on the air by 10 Eastern or 7 Eastern or whatever it was at the time anyway, everyone was talking too long. So I was sitting there, and I had smoke coming out of my ears because I didn't think I'd get my time slot. I'd missed my show. I didn't have this done. We had teased it. I mean, there are a thousand reasons I was in so much trouble. And this guy comes up to me, introduces himself as Don Lemon, And I'm so agitated about the problem I have that I'm just mildly polite. I'm polite. And he said. He said something nice to me. I said, thanks a lot. That's nice. And he said, what's wrong with you? Or something like that. And I said to him that I got to get. I got to get. I spilled on him. I said, I got to get this tape. I got to get this interview. Get this tape across town or I miss my show. And he sort of casually looked around. He told me he was at cnn, and he said, I'm up next. Do you want to swap spots?

[Iranian Perspective/Commentator]

Whoa.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Yeah. So that's so Don Lemon. I know a lot of people don't like him, but Don Lemon gave me a spot, you know, and the thing is, we were competitors on this story. So, you know, I'll tell you a little good. I'll tell you a little bad about everybody, but Don Lemon was very kind to me.

[Rob Carson]

You know, when I've been. I'm new to the. The TV genre. I've been doing my show, the Newsmax, only political satire show, for about six years on Newsmax, I see a little bit more of this competitive nonsense with TV people than I do with radio. I experienced some in radio, but I've run into. Let's just say I've run into some big names that r networks that are conservative, who wouldn't give me the time of day. Maybe because I'm from Newsmax, they don't feel I'm worthy. But also the competitive. It's kind of like the movie anchorman, the competing news teams. Have you discovered that?

[Greta Van Susteren]

Yes. I mean, there's a ton of that, and there really used to be a whole lot of it at Big Stories, because in the old days, all these networks had money to send people to the stories. So you'd be standing there doing a of lot, live shot 6 inches from 1 of your competition, and you'd see a big important guest go up and stand next to and do an interview with your competition. Then you'd try to grab the person when he was finished. So, yes, but now we've become siloed pretty much because after Covid is that a lot of people started me, we have less guests in person because the guests have figured out they can do it by zoom. So the business went through a transition then. So I don't run into many of the competitors anymore like I used to to except for like the State of the Union, the annual dinner that the president is off the record with anchors. And I represent Newsmax at the lunch. So, you know, so I'll see them then, but I don't see them like I used to.

[Rob Carson]

Can you hold on through the break, because I've got many more questions I want to ask you. Greta Van Suster, and she has, of course, a news program on Newsmax and as Greta Wire, the new Newsmax podcast. We'll take a break and come back more with Greta Von Susteran on the Rob CARSON show in a moment. It is ROB CARSON show Joining us on the Newsmax Highline, Greta Von Su and host of the Record with Greta Von with Greta on Newsmax. And also she's got a podcast, Greta wire. Greta Von Estrid, you just did an interview with Mike Tyson. I would love to know your impressions of Mike Tyson after that interview.

[Greta Van Susteren]

I I love, love Mike Tyson. I've known him for years. I've interviewed him for years. And probably the most memorable interview I ever had with him was years ago in Vegas, probably the first time. And believe me, I didn't have any interest in boxing. I thought, why am I doing this boxing? I go out and I get there early and Mike and I sit around for a couple hours talking about boxing. And he was fascinating. He was like an encyclopedia. He made boxing exciting. He told me the history, who did what, what, how it was done, how he studies films. It was absolutely riveting. He was so interesting. And then he takes me in his garage. He's got like a thousand pigeons and he's got in his garage, really. He's actually, he's got this he's got this wonderful you know, it's true of every public figure. You always think, you know, the public figure until he sits down for a couple hours. And I was, I was I thought he was fascinating. I also, though, brought into the Discussions that I'd followed his 1992 or three trials. Trial where he was charged with rape and he was convicted. And I always thought that was a bad conviction. I thought he had a bad lawyer. He got a tax lawyer. Who gets a tax lawyer for a rape case? That's like going to the cardiologist to have brain surgery. And his appellate lawyer was Alan Dershowitz, who. Alan's as smart as they come.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yes.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Alan says he was 100% innocent. He said, or he said he was absolutely innocent. Innocent are not. Absolutely not guilty. I forgot what somebody said, but anyway, I always thought that Tyson's trial was. Was a bad trial. Now, I don't know what he did, the rest of his conduct, but I'll tell you one thing, that trial was a bad trial.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, you. You think of him as a brute. You know, he's a boxer, but generally, some of the. The most interesting people, some of those brilliant people have been boxers. I, I still marvel at some of the interviews and the oration by Muhammad Al. I mean, just brilliant, brilliant.

[Greta Van Susteren]

His later years, when he couldn't talk, I was at some book party or something. Larry King, because I'd known Larry for years, for my years working at cnn. And he came across the room, he could barely talk. And Muhammad Ali gave me a kiss on the cheek.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my gosh.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Saved that one. But I tried to save it. I don't know how you did that one.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I remember growing up in the. In the 70s, my mom and dad, we'd go to these little hole in the wall bars in Iowa. See, you know, Muhammad Ali taking on Jerry Cooney or Muhammad Ali taking on Michael Spinks on these. And boxing was such a big deal. We saw the UFC fight here in. And UFC is, Is taking the place of popularity of boxing, but to me, it doesn't have the same, I don't know, discipline of boxing. I don't know. What are your thoughts on usf?

[Greta Van Susteren]

You know, I remember as a little girl, and I might have the story a little bit wrong, but my mother, who seemed like the least likely to like boxing with this crackly old AM radio that we have, listen to a boxing match, and I think the boxing match was Sonny Liston versus Cassius Clay. Oh, my gosh, Muhammad Ali. But I remember that playing in the kitchen.

[Steven Turley]

What.

[Rob Carson]

Who do you like to interview the most? Politicians, I would assume, might get a little tiresome. A lot of people, when you do interviews, they want to push books or mov movies. Who do you enjoy talking to the most.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Well, you're right about politicians because usually if you ask a politician a question, you know the answer, you're going to get profoundly dull and you got to sit there for the whole thing. So it's not good. But I'll tell you, there's some exceptions, like Senator John Fetterman. You sit down, have a conversation with him and you're going to have a conversation. Senator John McCain, same thing. There's some people that you sit down with and you connect, maybe not necessarily agree on everything, but there's some politicians don't just give you sound bites back. And obviously those are the ones that I like the most and I can name name some on both sides of the aisle, you know, the. Who are interesting to talk to, but I like mostly talk about. I like mostly talk to people who have seen something, you know, whether it's an eyewitnesses or something, because I couldn't be there at the scene. Tell me what you saw.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I. I fantasize about people I would like to interview. And for me, you might be surprised. After all of the politics and what I do, the most vaunted interview for me would be L. Richie, how about you? Because, I mean, honestly I. His music meant so much to me growing up. Even though I was a white boy from Iowa, the Commodores were the deal. Sail on was my song. What about you?

[Greta Van Susteren]

Is there somebody who I. I get that. I'm from Wisconsin. My first, my first concert was. I don't know if you know who this. Frank Zappa. Hell yeah, Frank Zappa. But you know, and, and you know, of all things, this is the White House correspondents dinner in 2000 too. I'd gone out to LA to start promoting my new show at Fox at the time. And one of my. Someone of my staff said when I went out there, it's like the first month I was there, why don't you interview Ozzy Osbourne? To which I replied, is he still alive? She said, he has the hottest show in tv. And at that time it was the reality show Meet the Osbournes. So I called, I called Sharon, answered the phone, I said, you know, would you guys do an interview? I went out there, met the Osborne, spent a lot of time, loved them. They were, quote, you know, regular people, normal people became really close friends with them. But after the interview I said, do you want to be my guest at the White House Correspondence Center? And sure enough, they did and they came and they. Wow, they stole the show.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. I met Sharon a couple times and she was a doll. She's a doll. She is an absolute doll. I really appreciate you being on the show today, Greta. I've had the opportunity and I honor to meet you. Now we work at the same company. It's wonderful. The Record with Greta Von suster is on 4pm every day on Newsmax. And of course your podcast is, is called Greta Wire. I wish you all of the best and I appreciate you taking the time to share it with us.

[Greta Van Susteren]

I'm flattered. I'm flattered. You're throwing me off now. I'm flattered. I was having fun talking to you.

[Rob Carson]

We're going to be rubbing elbows again. And you know what? When I get my podcast up and rolling, I want to do an extended interview because you're an interesting person and you, like me, are a battle hardened veteran of broadcasting. And we still stand, don't we?

[Greta Van Susteren]

Yes. And the thing is, this is terrible, terrible. But we're both Midwesterners. I have a bias and favor Midwesterners. It's just terrible.

[Rob Carson]

I'm a major Iowa boy, farm boy from Iowa and I'm quite familiar with Wisconsin, by the way. I've done a lot of airtime up there. I love, I love me some Wisconsin. All right, Greta, have a glorious day. Thanks for the time today.

[Greta Van Susteren]

Thank you. Thanks.

[Rob Carson]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. I kind of enjoyed that interview with Greta Von. That was pretty cool. She's, she's had an amazing career. I mean, an amazing career. She's a giant in, in, in cable news broadcasting. She's been on Fox, she's been in the courtroom. Very fascinating individual. I enjoyed hearing her thoughts on Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali. The stories are amazing. She's got some amazing war stories, man. She's been in this business a long time. So have I. And we do have war stories. We do have war stories. Man, oh man, do we have war stories. Speaking of military conflict, it looks like the memorandum of understanding is going to be signed, I guess, Friday. Iran basically can enjoy, you know, the riches of, of its possibilities and, and its people and if they choose to go down the path of, of nonsense and destruction and terror and nuclear ambitions and whatnot. Donald Trump has said we'll just bomb the snot out of him. Here's a, here is Donald Trump talking about that. The sound might open the show with today.

[Donald Trump]

No, it's not final. It's a memorandum of understanding. I don't like it. We'll go back to shooting at him, dropping bombs on their head if I don't like it, if they don't behave, we'll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head.

[Rob Carson]

Right smack in the middle there. Dang heads. Here is what I want to play. KT McFarland. I love me some KT McFarland.

[KT McFarland]

Talking about the deal, obviously Iran has no nuclear weapons. And even if Iran says, well, we're not going to go along with that, we're not going to allow you to inspect anything. They don't have any nuclear weapons, we bomb them and if they try to rebuild them, we'll bomb them again. And as far as Iran's economy, it's in tatters. Their military does exist anymore. So have we done what we needed to do? Yeah. Iran's going to take a generation to rebuild. But to me, the most important part of all of it is what President Trump.

[Rob Carson]

We didn't send them pallets of cash and billions of dollars and just kind of take their word for it just

[KT McFarland]

a few minutes ago where he said, gee, I'd like all those countries to join the Abraham Accords. This is the difference between President Trump and President Obama's deal. With President Obama, it was just United States in Iran, but with President Trump, he's bringing all of those Gulf Arab countries in on it.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[KT McFarland]

He's got buy in from Saudi Arabia, from Qatar, from the uae, from all of those major countries. And without their buy in, the agreement could never stand, certainly could never be enforced. And now that he's got the buy in from them, it's already got that.

[Rob Carson]

But anyway, yeah, fascinating. You know, Chris Ruddy just wrote a piece on Newsmax I just set up on Facebook, I believe, and he says say no to the $300 million. I'm, I'm, I'm not convinced that they should get the money. I'm just going to say I'm not convinced they should get the money because they have done nothing to prove that they can be trusted with the money. I trust this president. I trust this president. I know he makes great decisions. I know that he's put a good deal of thought and, and he's been very tempered in and measured in how we have treated this conflict. Conflict. But for them to get any money, I need to see that they're going to free the Iranian people and Iran will become effectively a democracy and no longer a theocracy. Otherwise, no friggin money for you. That's what I have to say about it. It looks like Chris Ruddy agrees with me as well. There you go. Oh, my gosh, we got so much coming up. We got the, you know, the big San Francisco pride night and the players putting Bible verses on their hats and all that. What's the bottle head for? Pride night? I don't even want to know what the head's made of. Anyway. Got that coming up. Gavin Newsom is in so much hot water. I love it. That's coming up. Don't go anywhere.

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