The Battle Over Free Speech Heats Up

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show – "The Battle Over Free Speech Heats Up"

Newsmax Podcasts | September 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively and emotionally charged episode, Rob Carson discusses the escalating national conversation about free speech, political violence, and the cultural war in America. Centered around the recent assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and the subsequent fallout—including Jimmy Kimmel’s firing—the show blends heartfelt reflection, political commentary, and signature humor. Joined by recurring guest Mary Walter, Carson explores how national tragedies spark both division and renewed solidarity, faith, and activism on the right.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Reflection and "Blessed Beyond Belief"

• [01:21–07:26] Rob opens with a candid look at his personal journey—dealing with divorce, estrangement from his children, and the struggle to maintain joy.
  • Attributes newfound strength to embracing gratitude:

    “It took me a very long time to get here… I’ve said this before, but my network is the BBB network. Blessed Beyond Belief. It means blessed beyond belief.”

• Draws inspiration from the Indigo Girls' song "Prince of Darkness," connecting its lyrics to his resilience:
  • “By grace, my sight is growing stronger. I will not be a pawn for the Prince of Darkness any longer.” ([05:58])

2. Tribute to Charlie Kirk and Youth Impact

• [07:26–13:29] Discusses the impact and legacy of Charlie Kirk, including a moving video tribute by Caitlin Bennett.
  • Plays heartfelt testimonials from young conservatives influenced by Kirk, highlighting themes of faith, identity, and empowerment.
  • Carson contextualizes:

    “Charlie Kirk had everything taken away. You still got yours. What are you going to do with it?” ([08:06])

  • Notable quotes from supporters:
    • “Thank you, Charlie, for changing my mind about so many different things.” ([09:48])
    • “Thank you for inspiring a whole generation… Thank you for your sacrifice.” ([09:54])
  • Carson reflects on the testimonies:

    "Those are all young women who've been told that they should become boys… That's what your Democrat Party did to your daughters." ([10:28])

3. Media Fallout: The Firing of Jimmy Kimmel

• [13:45–19:17] Analysis of Jimmy Kimmel’s firing after controversial remarks about Charlie Kirk, and the political narrative around it.
  • Carson clarifies Kimmel’s firing was a business decision due to low ratings and advertiser loss, not political oppression.

  “Donald Trump did not fire Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he said really stupid crap on television. And he also destroyed the ratings.” ([13:45])

  • Plays reactions from Chuck Schumer and Chris Murphy, accusing Trump of fascism for "shutting down" Kimmel.
  • Carson rebuts the “free speech crackdown” narrative:

    “Nothing to do with Donald Trump being a fascist and trying to silent speech. Honestly, you’re a bunch of drama queens. Shut up.” ([17:00])

4. Guest Segment: Mary Walter Joins the Show

[20:56–36:48]

• Political Clown Show and Hypocrisy
  • Both hosts agree Democrats perform outrage and double standards on free speech, using the Kimmel episode to escalate attacks on Trump.
    • Walter:

      “They had never had any intention of turning down the rhetoric. They only want us to turn it down…” ([22:59])

  • Carson:

    “You do not have absolute freedom of speech…when you are a representative in the United States House or Senate. That’s just the way it is.” ([23:40])

• Democratic Performances in Congress
  • Walter critiques figures like Rashida Tlaib and Jasmine Crockett for "playing roles" and performative outrage.
• Republican Response and Fighting Back
  • Walter says Republicans are too rule-abiding and could learn from Charlie Kirk’s combative, principled style.
    • “Charlie is a fighter. The Republicans could take a lesson from him on fighting and standing up for your convictions… Republicans just refuse to do it.” ([27:10])
  • Carson draws distinction between "MAGA Republicans" and the "country club blue bloods" of the party.

5. Discussion on Political Violence & Free Speech

• Review of Democrats using inflammatory language even after the assassination, specifically mentioning Jasmine Crockett echoing divisive rhetoric.
  • Clip:
    • “Most black people are not Republicans simply because we just is like, y’all racist …we just can’t side with the neo Nazis in there.” (Crockett, [26:25–26:48])
  • Walter’s blunt response:

    “Well, I’m dumber for having listened to that.” ([26:54])

6. Resurgence of Faith and Patriotism

[30:58–34:44]

• Carson shares a personal story about returning to church, linking the tragedy of Charlie Kirk’s death to a broader movement of spiritual renewal.
  • “I just think there’s something very big happening… I think it is…the yan to the yin of evil that had kind of taken over the world.” ([33:19])
• Walter is cautiously hopeful, noting Americans’ fickle attention spans:

  “I hope it takes hold and stays. That it becomes rooted and isn’t just for some people just a passing fad.” ([34:11])

7. Trump’s Confidence and Free Speech Abroad

• Segment on Trump's meeting with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, with Peter Doocy asking tough questions on Palestine statehood and free speech arrests in the UK.
  • Carson notes Trump’s different posture, calling out European leaders and standing for free speech globally.
  • Walter:

    “He’s such a different president than he was the first time around…he doesn’t care. He’s going to do what he thinks is right, and that’s that.” ([36:11])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rob Carson

  • “By grace, my sight is growing stronger. I will not be a pawn for the Prince of Darkness any longer.” ([06:58])
  • "Donald Trump did not fire Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he said really stupid crap on television." ([13:45])
  • “Those are all young women who've been told that they should become boys…that’s what your Democrat Party did to your daughters.” ([10:28])
  • "The forces of darkness are going to be driven right back to hell. Right back to hell." ([13:00])

• Mary Walter

  • “Charlie is a fighter. The Republicans could take a lesson from him on fighting and standing up for your convictions and handing it back to them…Republicans just refuse to do it.” ([27:10])

• Young Charlie Kirk Supporter

  • “Thank you, Charlie, for changing my mind about so many different things. Thank you for inspiring a whole generation. And I hope that we learn and that something good comes out of this.” ([09:48])

• On Political Hypocrisy

  • “They had never had any intention of turning down the rhetoric. They only want us to turn it down when they said we have to turn it down. They mean you, not us, you.” (Mary Walter, [22:59])
  • "You do not have absolute freedom of speech…when you are a representative in the United States House or Senate." (Rob Carson, [23:40])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:21 — Rob’s personal update and “Blessed Beyond Belief”
• 07:26 — Tribute to Charlie Kirk and impact on youth
• 13:45 — The firing of Jimmy Kimmel, free speech debate
• 17:27–18:32 — Chuck Schumer and other Democrats on “free speech crackdown”
• 20:56 — Mary Walter joins; the Kimmel controversy expanded
• 22:32 — The role of "performative" Democrats; John Fetterman’s surprising common sense
• 23:40 — Congressional conduct and free speech limits
• 25:54 — Political rhetoric’s connection to violence
• 27:10 — Republicans’ response versus Charlie Kirk’s activism
• 30:58 — Spiritual resurgence and Rob’s return to church
• 34:44 — U.S.–UK: Trump and Starmer on free speech, Palestine, and immigration
• 36:10 — Trump’s changed posture, Mary Walter’s final take

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Closing Tone

The episode is marked by a blend of earnest, personal reflection and irreverent, punchy critique of the political establishment. Carson’s tone is passionate and sometimes combative but also emotive—especially when discussing faith, loss, and the hope sparked by Charlie Kirk’s legacy. Mary Walter adds sharp insight and dry humor, reinforcing the show’s commitment to both entertainment and thoughtful cultural analysis.

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For More:

• Mary Walter: Podcast “Mary Walter Radio” on YouTube, Getter, Rumble & major audio platforms
• Rob Carson: Rumble channel “Rob Car,” Newsmax syndicated radio & podcast

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Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

Hold it now.

[Conservative Commentator]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson show and.

[Rob Carson]

By the grace of God, it is finally Friday. Welcome hour number duh of the of the show, Mary Walter at the bottom of the hour. She's always awesome. She fills in on the show whenever I'm off and I insist on it because she's amazing. And so we're gonna do. We've got a bunch of different topics for her at the bottom of the hour and a lot of things to get to. I had a wonderful dinner last night with some friends from Kansas City I have not seen in a number of years. Her name is Jeannie Blau, by the way. Her husband and a couple of their friends and they were coming to D.C. and reached out and I just said, hey, let's go to dinner. Let's go down to King street in Old Town Alexandria. And we winded up having a marvelous time. And I got to tell you, I, since I moved here, I've seen more friends than I did in years living in Kansas City. And you know, if you looked at my life and what's happened in the last year or so with the divorce, everything, you might say that I have a lot to be sad about and I'm not. I've been through the, the agony, I've been through the. I like to say divorce is like finding out your parents died every day for a year. And it's been that way because I used to say that the three proudest accomplishments of my life were my marriage, my children, in my studio. And the only thing that still is intact is my studio. But I have an enormous amount of joy, and it's really beginning to catch on after a long hiatus. And so I. Rush Limbaugh used to have the. His. His network was called the. The EIB Network, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. And I've said this before, but I don't know if I've told you in a while. My Network is the BBB network. Maybe we should call it the B3 network. And that means blessed beyond belief. It means blessed beyond belief. It took me a very long time to get here. I did a. I did an interview this morning with someone from Barrett Media, and it's going to be on Barrett Media site next week. And they were just asking me about. Because, you know, listen, guys, I'm a national media figure for the first time in a career that's over 35 years. Took me 30 years to be an overnight success. And. And we have this delightful conversation, and I just shared, you know, what's happened and. And where I am and how blessed I am, how blessed I am. And listen, my. My wife divorced me for whatever reason. There's nothing I can do about it. I. I wish her well. I love her. I do. I do. I really love her. I'm angry at times, but I love her. And my kids are now 1800 miles away, and my dogs are 1800 miles away. But I refuse to succumb to darkness. There was a song. I'll just. I'll just, you know, hell, I'll just mention it here. I'll write it up here. There was a song. I'm gonna. I'm gonna look like a Gen X or traditional Gen Xer. Here. There's a. There's a group there, a group in the early 90s, the Indigo Girls. And there are a couple songs. History of Us was one of their better songs, but they did a song called Prince of Darkness, and. And it's amazing song. My place is of the sun and this place is of the dark and I do not feel the romance I do not catch the spark My place is of the light and this place is of the dark and then it moves on to talk about maybe there's no haven in this world for tender age My heartbeat like the wings of wild birds in his cage My greatest hope, My greatest Cause to grieve and my heart flew from its cage and it bled him on my sea sleeve. And then it goes on to say. I'm trying to find the big words here. I try to make this place my place. I ask for Providence to smile upon me with his sweet face. But I'll tell you my places of the sun and this place is of the dark and I do not feel the romance. I will not catch the bark. And then it goes on to say I will not be a pawn for the Prince of Darkness any longer. By grace, my sight is growing stronger. I will not be a pawn for the Prince of Darkness any longer. Listen to that again. By grace, my sight is growing stronger. I will not be a pawn for the Prince of Darkness any longer. There you go. I'm not going to do it. I'm here to entertain you. I'm here to maybe share what I've discovered. I won't say enlighten you because you guys are smart, you pay attention. So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna teach you anything, really. I'll share what I've learned because I learn new stuff every day. Because when I hit this microphone every day, I gotta become an expert on everything to at least have a conversation. I've got to kind of become an expert on everything. And I don't know whether one day it's this, one day it's that, and then I got to understand this. And I gotta understand. I'm like, holy crap. That's why I do 10 hours of show prep for a 3 hour show. But I also try to bring it to you using levity and joy whenever possible. By grace, my sight is growing stronger. I will not be a pawn for the Prince of Darkness any longer. I'm not going to. There you go. The Blessed Beyond Belief Radio Network. There you go. B3. B3. It's like diners Drive Ins and dies. Triple D. There you go. Here's Donald Trump talking about Charlie Kirk.

[Conservative Commentator]

This was such a good guy, you know, probably very well. I assume you know him very well. He was a great guy.

[Rob Carson]

Not as well as you, but. Yes.

[Conservative Commentator]

No, but he was a great. He was a great person. He really was a great person. I actually said, charlie, someday I think you have a good chance of being president. I think you will be president, maybe. And I think he would have had a great chance. He was very compelling. I've never seen anybody capture a group of people like, he captured youth. He captured youth. He was incredible. You know, when I say he was a young guy But I'm talking about the 20 year olds and the 18 year olds. It was like he had a following that was incredible. He did.

[Rob Carson]

Charlie Kirk had his life stolen. You still got yours. What are you going to do with it? Charlie Kirk had everything taken away. You still got yours. What are you going to do with it? Donald Trump nearly had his taken away and look what happened after he survived. Look what we would have missed. Look at the possibilities now. Look what he's doing to change the world. Charlie Kirk had his life taken from him. What are you doing with yours? Let's make something awesome out of it together. Okay. Caitlyn Bennett on Liberty Hangout. I've been seeing her stuff. She does a lot of woman on the street stuff and she's phenomenal. Caitlin Bennett is phenomenal. She's got an amazing style. She does man on the street. She does the what? She's phenomenal. And she put together this. I'm not going to be able to put the whole thing up here. All right. This is her video. It's called thank you, Charlie where she talks to young people who've been impacted by Charlie. I put it on my Rumble channel at Rob Car if you want to see it. I'm going to tell you right now, you better have some Kleenex because you're going to lose it. But I want to play a little bit of it.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

We are here at the University of South Florida in Tampa where there is a vigil for Charlie Kirk happening hosted by the local Turning Point chapter. And the students want to say a final thank you to Charlie for everything he's done for them.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

Thank you, Charlie, for giving me inspiration to stand up for what I believe in, no matter the circumstances, no matter where I'm at. Thank you, Charlie, for changing my mind about so many different things. Thank you for inspiring a whole generation. And I hope that we learn and that something good comes out of this. So thank you for your sacrifice. We love you, Charlie. I'd like to say thank you to Charlie for giving so many people a voice you thank when they didn't think they had one. He gave people a voice when they were scared to speak up. And he just. He made me feel confident in my opinions and my beliefs. I just want to say thank you, Charlie, for making me able to believe in myself as a woman and that I'm able to do things.

[Rob Carson]

Listen to that. I just wanted to stop it for one second. Those are all young women who've been told that they should become boys. They've all been told in their darkest hours when everything was taken from them because of COVID nonsense. And they were told that maybe they should mutilate themselves and hate them so much that they should become the opposite sex. That's what your Democrat Party did to your daughters. And my daughter. My daughter didn't go that far. But listen to this. I won't interrupt again.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

I apologize and accomplish things and not be scared of being a woman. Charlie, thank you for your courage for coming to campuses and teaching our kids the values and especially about Jesus. Thank you. I would thank Charlie for helping me reignite my faith with Christ through a really difficult time in my life watching him. I always felt very positive after his videos and I appreciated that he came from a logical standpoint as well as a Christian belief. And I read the Bible every night because of him, before all of this as well. And I'm now pro life because it comes from logic and ethics. And I'm so grateful and so blessed to have gotten to know him through the impact he had. And I'm thankful for him every day and I will continue to pray for them. And God bless the Kirk family.

[Conservative Commentator]

Thank you, Charlie, for all of your courage, your courage for Christ, your courage for the conservative movement, your courage for standing up. Just thank you so much, Charlie, for your hard work, living such a godly example, being so faithful. Thank you, Charlie, for everything you've done. You've led a lot of people to their faith in Jesus Christ. You've done a lot for the conservative movement and we love you and we're going to keep it up.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

I want to thank you for this, all of this. You, Charlie, really guided everyone to not only speak for what they believe in, but not be afraid of what everyone would say back.

[Rob Carson]

I'm gonna put this at the very end, to the end of the. Because I'm coming up at the end of the break. I want to hear the end of it. And truly some of the best friends that I will ever have in my entire life. I would not have met if it hadn't been for Charlie. I also want to thank him for.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

Inviting me and all the others to the White House.

[Rob Carson]

There's no chance I would have ever been there without him and what he.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

Stood for and what he will continue.

[Rob Carson]

To stand for and what his legacy stands for.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

And I know he's in heaven now with Jesus and he's smiling down on all of us who are here to continue what he started and stand firmly in our beliefs. Charlie, thank you so much for inspiring so Many young people, so many Christians, so many conservatives on these college campuses around the country. You will be dearly missed. And your influence will not be lost. We will make sure of it. Rest easy. And we are praying for your family and for your soul.

[Rob Carson]

There's going to be a big weekend. This is going to be a big weekend. Caitlin Bennett put this together. She's brilliant at Liberty Hangout. And I put it up on my rumble page. Let's go ahead and take a break, guys, shall we? This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Mary Walter]

I was at the naked distance between hell and heaven.

[Rob Carson]

Ceiling.

[Mary Walter]

And he almost pulled me under.

[Rob Carson]

This song has meant a lot to me. I was at the naked distance between hell and heaven, so ceiling. And it almost pulled me under. It's called Prince of Darkness, by the way. And this is a. This is a classic Generation X song. I listened to that song in my. In the early 90s when I was in my 20s wearing Doc Martens. And the line, by grace, by my sight is growing stronger. I will not be a pawn for the prince of darkness any longer. It just hit me. I mean, I love it. And then that song meant a lot to me. I've carried it with me a very long time, and I think it speaks well for what's going on in the world. And. And we're going to win. We're going to win. The forces of darkness are going to be driven right back to hell. Right back to hell. All right, so I'm done prophetizing and all that. And let's talk about some other stuff here. Let's talk about some other stuff. I want to talk a little about these, these morons who are, you know, going after Donald Trump. Donald Trump did not fire, by the way, Donald Trump did not fire Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he said really stupid crap on television. And he also destroyed the ratings late night television. And honestly, he had lost 76% of his ratings, and consequently, he had to be removed. He was no longer profitable for the company. All of the affiliate stations said, you're killing us here. People are in an uproar over what he said about Charlie Kirk. And so you know what we're gonna do? It wasn't Donald Trump. Donald Trump was in England, for God's sake. Here's what Jimmy Kimmel said. Let's play real quick. And then what some of the reaction that's been happening around the ridiculous Lowe's.

[Conservative Commentator]

Over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

[Rob Carson]

That is the, that's the crux of it, which. That was a lie. It wasn't funny and it was a lie. It wasn't true. Here's Hugh Hewitt with why Charlie Kirk was fired. It wasn't Donald Trump. Although the left is using that to once again be able to call Donald Trump a fascist Nazi and turn the temperature back up again after they wanted to bring it down last week. Because that same rhetoric caused an idiot an a hole, a nut bag to kill. To kill Charlie Kirk.

[Conservative Commentator]

The United States has the most robust speech protections in the world. The First Amendment here is much more rigorous than the protections accorded the average British citizen. That does not excuse Jimmy Kimmel's idiocy on Monday night. And ABC is a private company and unlike you and I, right now they operate in a regulated world on a broadcast network using the public spectrum. So they have an even higher obligation to the public. But I think what ABC was anticipating is they're going to lose half to three quarters of their audience and the advertisers were going to flee because Kimmel simply lied about Charlie's murderer. Charlie was assassinated by a left wing fanatic. And that can be said over and over again. And you can't get away from that.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[Conservative Commentator]

So the decision to suspend and I suspect eventually cancel Kimmel is a business decision by abc. When FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr came out and made comments about that, all he was doing was underscoring that the FCC has to regulate.

[Rob Carson]

Nothing to do with Donald Trump. Had nothing to Donald Trump being a fascist and trying to silent speech. Honestly, you're a bunch of drama queens. Shut up. It is so utterly ridiculous that all this caterwauling, all this nonsense coming from the left here is, let's see, we got, got a bunch of people I need to share here. Okay, Here is, here is. Oh, Chuck Schumer. Here's Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer all mad about, about Jimmy kill him being fired. Schumer, your reaction to this?

[Conservative Commentator]

It is outrageous. It's a page right out of She's Playbook. This is.

[Rob Carson]

No, no, it's ABC who did it.

[Conservative Commentator]

Just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values. Trump and his allies seem to want to shut down speech that they don't like to hear.

[Rob Carson]

Not at all. That's not the case. That's an absolute lie. But they're using it. They're parlaying this into an attack on Donald Trump and you and me. It's given them permission to do it again after their rhetoric caused the murder of Charlie Kirk. Yeah, that's what they're doing. Oh, here's a. Here's old Chucky Schumer. When. When Tucker Carlson got fired.

[Conservative Commentator]

Rupert Murdoch, who has admitted they were lies and said he regretted it, has a special obligation to stop Tucker Carlson from going on tonight now that he's kind of fascistic, how he is perverted and slimed.

[Rob Carson]

The truth was kind of what Jimmy.

[Conservative Commentator]

Kimmel did and from letting him go on again and again and again, not because their views deserve such a program, but because our democracy depends.

[Rob Carson]

Okay, there you go. And, oh, here's Chris Murphy. He's a. He's a beta male. Whoo. Beta male supreme.

[Conservative Commentator]

ABC made the announcement. Kimmel would indeed be taken off the air indefinitely. And this is just the latest chapter in Donald Trump's ongoing campaign. ABC to crack down on free speech, dominate the media, and essentially render the First Amendment meaningless. So it was for the journeyman cable news host Tucker Carlson, just fired from his third network. He believed he could say anything. How vile, no matter how disgusting, no matter how offensive. Now dehumanizing or belittling. And if you act like a sociopath over and over and over and over, you will become unpopular on the national stage.

[Rob Carson]

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[Conservative Commentator]

He followed her to school.

[Rob Carson]

Mary Walter, how are you doing on this Friday, freaky.

[Mary Walter]

I feel like I'm watching like an old Elvis Presley movie from the 60s and they went to like some place that's hip and they brought out the bongos.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I used to stay up until two in the morning as a, as a, as a nine year old to watch Elvis movies because I was, he was my absolute idol. Absolute idol.

[Mary Walter]

Your parents let you stay up till 2 o' clock in the morning to watch TV?

[Rob Carson]

No, I sneak downstairs. I sneaked downstairs and did it. I did it. I, I did it. I did.

[Mary Walter]

Oh, man. My mother was like the Mossad. My mother knew. She was incredible. That woman has supernatural powers. If we had a, first of all, if we had ever done anything like that, we knew like that was the end of it. We wouldn't get TV for a week. Yes, but my mother heard everything that woman has a hearing of. She's like supersonic sonar, which is ironic that she is now deaf. Just saying maybe all in the beginning, you know, when she used it all. And now.

[Rob Carson]

Gotcha, gotcha. So what a, what a just bizarre last couple of weeks. You had the, the assassination of Charlie Kirk. You had the Democrat Party saying last week to turn the temperature down. And then Jimmy Kimmel gets fired because his, his sponsors were leaving. The affiliate stations were saying enough is enough. He lost 76% of his office and the OR is his, his audience. And the Democrat Party has used that to bring up the temperature again on Donald Trump even worse than before. Hitler fascist all over again. It is just remarkable, Mary.

[Mary Walter]

You know, the most remarkable part of all of that, the Kimmel thing, is that John Fetterman is suddenly the voice of common sense. I did not have that on my bingo card for 2025. I know John Fetterman was going to be the same common sense one.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you know what they say, when your computer's not acting right, you turn it on and turn it off. That's what happened to his brain. He had a stroke. Reset that thing. He reset his brain. I'm actually kind of leaning into. Actually that was a punchline. I'm beginning to believe it was actually true.

[Mary Walter]

Yeah, I don't know. Or maybe he was always that way. I have no idea, you know. Yeah, but, but they had never had any intention of turning down the rhetoric. They only want us to turn it down when they said we have to turn it down. They mean you, not us, you. They don't. And, but the Republicans, though there was a motion to censor Ilhan Omar for some of her rhetoric and something like three or five Republicans voted against it because you kicked George Santos out and he hadn't even been charged with a crime. So, you know, they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at every given turn. They play by the rules. And if you're going to play by the rules against someone who is not playing by the rules, you're always going to lose.

[Rob Carson]

You know, there has to be a standard of conduct for the Congress. You do not have absolute freedom of speech. Speech when you are a representative in the United States House or Senate, that's just the way it is. When you say preposterous things, when you say anti American things, you're not only there to represent your constituents, you are there to represent America as founded. And I got to tell you, I'm just sick of this nonsense. You have to have respect if you're going to be in either one of those houses. You have to respect the country as founded. That's it. And when you say preposterous things like these leftist Democrats are saying enough is enough. Did you hear Rashida Tlaib yesterday going off on Byron Adams? I mean, she just went insane yesterday.

[Mary Walter]

Well, you have to understand, when you understand that the Democrats are basically just a traveling group of performers, then you understand. And every now and then they're, they're, you know, Washington, D.C. is on their tour and this is what they do. And they're performative. And it's the women, it is the females in the Democrat Party who play a role. Rashida Tlaib, Jasmine Crockett, she doesn't sound like that when she speaks normally, but when she's in D.C. she puts on an act and she puts on this whole, I'm from the, you know, the hood thing that she's got going on. She's playing a role. AOC plays a role. They all do it, Maxine. They do it and they're, they're actually embarrassing as all hell to womanhood, but I can't find what a woman is, so it doesn't matter. But, but that, when you understand that, then you know that this is all just a play. But unfortunately, they're mocking us. They're mocking the entire system. And Republicans are trying, not all of them, but they're trying for the most part to play by the rules and be respectful and all this other stuff. But when the other side is putting on a play and acting like a bunch of toddlers who you took away their binky, what do you do? The only thing you can do is act exactly like them. And now that they're finding out that, oh, free speech has consequences. I mean, they're the ones who told us, you have the right to free speech, but you don't have the right to not have consequences for your free speech. Remember that? Remember we got that two years ago. Not even two years ago we got that lecture. But now they're upset because they have consequences for their speech. So suddenly we're fascists.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And listen to this. This is Jasmine Crockett. This is two weeks after. Less than two weeks after Charlie Kirk was murdered, echoing the Democrat talking points written on one of the shell casings. Same goes with the murderer, the transgender murderer of children at the Catholic school in Minneapolis. There's no doubt the language of the left, they try to convince you otherwise. The language of the left is what is causing this. But here is. Here is Jasmine Crockett, a week and a half after Charlie Kirk was murdered.

[Mary Walter]

All the time is somebody that's a.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

Child of a preacher.

[Mary Walter]

Listen, most black people are not Republicans.

[Charlie Kirk Supporter]

Simply because we just is like, y' all racist.

[Rob Carson]

I can't hang out with the kkk. Oh, my God.

[Mary Walter]

That's really what it is. But when we think about who we are as black people and we think about where we come from, most black people have very conservative values.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, and you're blowing it.

[Mary Walter]

But the reality is that, like, we just can't side with, like, the neo Nazis in there.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, look, she all getting old. Girlfriend and everything. Y'. All. Yeah, you. Yeah. I mean, honestly. Wow. Wow, wow, wow.

[Mary Walter]

Well, I'm dumber for having listened to that.

[Rob Carson]

I know, I know, I know. Sorry. You have. You have some IQ points to spare, though. You're cool.

[Mary Walter]

Oh, thank you. I appreciate. Thank you. Okay.

[Rob Carson]

I'm not saying the reservoir is that deep. Mary, don't. Don't withdraw too much.

[Mary Walter]

Okay? That's okay. No, again, she's playing a part. You know, she's. When you see her for the. She's a court jester, she's a clown, but she's an effective clown because there are people who buy it. But here's the thing. You're never going to get those votes anyway from those people. What Charlie has done is something that the Republicans have not been able to do because they don't fight. Charlie's a. Charlie is a fighter. The Republicans could take a lesson from him on fighting and standing up for your convictions and handing it back to them. You can do it respectfully the way he did, but Republicans just refuse to do it. They just.

[Rob Carson]

I wouldn't say all Republicans. I would say. I'd say mega Republicans, by and large have more certainly more balls than the. The traditional country club blue bloods that survived the. The Bush administration that still exists. Like Mike Pence. Mike Pence, he even said. What did he say the other day? Mike Pence said, you don't. There's no blame on the left for this, you know, typical Mike Pence stuff. Speaking before the, you know, a group of people assembled by the Atlantic that those are the kind of people who don't have the balls to do anything. You know, I was thinking about, you know, Charlie Kirk was. He had a trajectory that was amazing and it was. It was growing. And now that he has been martyred, more than 60,000 chapter requests for TPUSA and as much. And it was an unnecessary, an awful tragedy. You know, throughout history, we've seen this, Mary. You take down the leader of a righteous movement coming from the side of evil, you end up getting your ass kicked. And ultimately this. They've started a fire they're not going to be able to put out. What do you think about that?

[Mary Walter]

I don't think they want to put out the fire. They have no desire to put out the antifa fire. They were more than happy to allow them to burn down cities, you know, take over police departments, et cetera. And they got reelected. They knew they'd get reelected. Antifa is what Donald Trump is absolutely right. They need to listen to this. Why are there bulletproof vests arriving and piles of bricks and all this other stuff? And we asked all these questions during the Summer of Love, and they allowed them to take over parts of Seattle. A woman was killed in the whole Chaz. The Chaz chop zone. Whatever it was, they allowed it to happen because they're not touched by it and they don't care if Americans are. They truly don't. Problem with Republicans is they care about. And because of that, they do things that sometimes hurt the party because they know it's the right thing to do. Not all of them. There's some of them.

[Rob Carson]

Let's take a break. Let's take a break and come back. On the other side, we got Mary Walter, thank you very much. On a Friday edition of the Rob Carson Show. Stick around.

[Conservative Commentator]

Relentlessly. Slowing the spread of the stupid every day. It's the Rock Carson show.

[Rob Carson]

It is a Rob Carson show. The great Mary Walter on the Newsmax hotline. So, you know, Mary, all of the, the caterwauling of the left, the calling us fascists, the calling us that, the screeching about Jimmy Kimmel being fired. Donald Trump had nothing to do with it. Fascism had nothing to do with it. It's like I mentioned earlier, they've got their panties so far in a bunch that it would take a backhoe to dig them out. But that said, the loudest voices are frequently the least heard, and I mean resonating. Donald Trump's approval rating is up 7% in the last week and a half. So they're screeching, they're trying to drag us into hell with them. And it's not working. And it's not working. And not only is Trump's approval rating up, going up, but there, I think there's a rebirth of faith and patriotism. You're a good practicing Catholic, right?

[Mary Walter]

Yes, sir.

[Rob Carson]

I'm going to church Sunday for the first time since the last time I went with my mother before she died. I went to midnight mass with her, and she was so weak that she dropped the host on the ground and, and I picked it up for her. Pardon me.

[Mary Walter]

Oh, not allowed to do that.

[Rob Carson]

And I, I knew that she was going to go. And, and, and the, the next time I took communion with her was on Mother's Day. She died a few days later, and she took the host and she asked God to let her die. It was a incredible moment for me that I'll never forget. And I'm going to church this Sunday for the first time since then. And I know that makes me a bad Catholic for missing as much, but I'm ready. I have not been happy with this church. I've not been happy with Pope Francis. I was not at all very disappointed, very disappointed with Catholics and Catholic Charities in the southern border. But I feel like I need to be in a church. It doesn't have to be Catholic, but that's where I was raised. How do you feel about what's happened with Charlie? And do you feel like there's something happening with regard to a spiritual rebirth in this country?

[Mary Walter]

I do. But I hope people are going back for the right reason.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Mary Walter]

I know you know you left because you don't like the Pope. I don't like Pope. I didn't like Pope Francis either. Was not my bag, but I didn't let him keep me Away from. My God.

[Rob Carson]

It wasn't just Charlie's death. This has been going on, but Charlie's death just put it into lightspeed.

[Mary Walter]

Okay.

[Rob Carson]

I believe.

[Mary Walter]

Yeah. No, and you do you. And that's fine. I just hope people are going for the right reason as opposed to part of a trend. I think a lot of people are like, not you. I'm not saying you. It's not about you. I don't know if you know that, but it's not all about you.

[Rob Carson]

I'm talking about the movement, Mary.

[Mary Walter]

I am too. What I'm saying is, is that I. I hope that some of these people who are going. Aren't going. Just they can make a tick tock video. They're not, and say that I'm part of the movement. And then they go for one or two weeks and then, oh, it's my talk. My videos aren't getting as much as they don't bother going anymore, you know.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, ye of little faith, Mary.

[Mary Walter]

Okay. I just. That that's what I hope. I'm saying. This is what I'm praying that that doesn't happen. Let's see how often.

[Rob Carson]

I don't think that's happened.

[Mary Walter]

Oh, yeah, of little faith. Let's see how long you keep it up.

[Rob Carson]

You know, we will see. I just think there's something very big happening. And it didn't just happen with Charlie Kirk's death. It did not. It was happening, but you saw that he. He got 70,000 new chapters of. Of TPUSA. And I don't think that's just a trend. I think it's. I think it is a. It's the yan to the yin of evil that had kind of taken over the world. That's what I believe. That's what I believe. So we will see. We will see. But I'm gonna be there.

[Mary Walter]

And I'm not disagreeing with you. What I'm trying to say is when you asked me about the resurgence of religion is, yes, I see it, and I think it's great. I just hope it lasts. Americans have the attention span of a golden retriever puppy, right? And we're on to the next thing. Squirrel, and off we go. So I hope that it takes hold and stays. That it becomes rooted and isn't just for some people just a passing fad just because everybody else is doing it.

[Rob Carson]

I don't think it's this. I know that. But I think they generally are on the other side of the political equation. I think people who have a deep and resounding belief in God and maybe have strayed slightly or ready to. Ready to see change. I want to move on to some other stuff because there is some other stuff. Did you hear Peter Doocy yesterday with Pierce, with Keir Starmer? When, When Keir Starmer. Did you see, oh, my God, he just ate Keir Starmer alive? Trump did. He did. But this is. This is Peter Doocy saying, hey, Keir, I hear you're going to be recognizing Palestine, the Palestinian state, after Donald Trump leaves here. It is also strongly about officially recognizing Palestine for statehood. Why are you waiting for President Trump to leave the country? Why can't you just do it right now? And isn't there a risk in rewarding Hamas with that?

[Conservative Commentator]

Well, let me be really clear about Hamas. There are terrorist organizations.

[Rob Carson]

I just love the fact that he asked the question. It was just like, wow, he's a superstar.

[Mary Walter]

Fantastic question. And he. And Keir Starmer was also asked by another reporter about free speech and how many people are being arrested for post. And he wiggled around that one. But the look on Donald Trump's face both times, you can see Donald Trump's kind of like smirking, like, you know.

[Rob Carson]

Like, you know what it was like? It was like, have you ever had, like, your little brother. Well, say a little brother gets in a lot of trouble and the big brother's trying to stop and dad comes home and dad is standing there and you are telling all the stuff that the little brother did while you were away. That's what it kind of reminded me. And the little brother's like, you know, and it was that. It was the free speech. It was, oh, and Donald Trump talking about how, oh, yeah, I don't know, but I've heard that there are all sorts of these boats arriving with illegals coming to crime. We had that problem with illegals. I was like, this is so good. He looked so small. He looked so small.

[Mary Walter]

No, it was absolutely fantastic. And I have to give Donald Trump props with all of this. Obviously, Pete gets props, but I have to give Donald Trump props in all of this because I think he's such a different president than he was the first time around.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah.

[Mary Walter]

You know, he's so confident because he doesn't care. He doesn't care. He's not. He doesn't have to get reelected. He doesn't have to worry about being reelected. So he doesn't care. He's going to do what he thinks is right, and that's that. And I think part of what he thinks is right is calling out some of These other countries like England, for suppression of free speech and for open borders, et cetera, because he sees those people marching the huge march last weekend in England that became part of a Charlie Kirk thing, but it was really for free speech and for immigration. And they're starting to hang their flag again. They're tired of being told they can't patriotic. And so Trump sees that as well. And I think he's like, yeah, we give him a little nudge in the right direction.

[Rob Carson]

We got to run. We got to run. Mary, I apologize. We, we've got to do a longer show at some point, at least an extended podcast. Where can people find your glorious work? Mary?

[Mary Walter]

Oh, yes. Well, I will be on Newsmax television on Monday with Chris Salcedo between 5 and 6 o'. Clock. And you can always catch my podcast on Tuesday evenings when it's live on YouTube. Getter and Rumble, look for Mary Walter Radio. And then the audio is available on Apple Podcast, Spotify and Spreaker.

[Rob Carson]

All right, have a glorious weekend, Mary. We'll talk soon. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Little Rob Zombie for you. Kamala Harris says Pete Booty Gig was her first choice for 2024 running mate, but the pairing was too risky because he's gay. Did you hear about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a little too risky because he's gay. And then, then also the Democrat Party didn't want. Didn't want the governor of Pennsylvania to be the the candidate either because he's a Jew. So I guess that means that the Democrat Party and its voters are homophobic and, and anti Semitic. Isn't that right? Something we haven't heard from a while, from Jim Gossett about Kamala.

[Conservative Commentator]

She borders are but won't go to the border.

[Rob Carson]

In case you haven't heard it from.

[Conservative Commentator]

Mexico, she stays so very far.

[Rob Carson]

Sing along if you know.

[Conservative Commentator]

She doesn't seem to care about law and order. Come on.

[Rob Carson]

I love this song. Responsibility.

[Conservative Commentator]

She's always shirking, shirking. Maybe she's relaxing in some spa. It's seldom that you'll ever see her working.

[Rob Carson]

Do it again.

[Conservative Commentator]

I know that it's a mystery.

[Rob Carson]

Dad.

[Conservative Commentator]

Kamala could somehow become the vp.

[Rob Carson]

Thank God she didn't come pressing. You know she wants to move into.

[Conservative Commentator]

The White House and she didn't. She can't wait to become the left's new star.

[Rob Carson]

Disaster it would be what a tragedy.

[Conservative Commentator]

If somehow she became the President.

[Rob Carson]

Ms. Kamala. Thank God. Thank God she didn't become the president. My God, could you even imagine? That's Jim Gossett. If you want to support Jim gossett, go to patreon.com Jim Gosset, comedy 10 bucks a month, he'll send you two song parodies every single day. Christian Toto joins us next hour. Much more in the final hour of the Rob Carson show on this Friday. Don't go anywhere.