The Candidate, the Cover-Up, and the Countdown

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show: "The Candidate, the Cover-Up, and the Countdown"

Date: June 4, 2026 | Guest Host: Tom Shattuck | Guest: Michael Charbonne
Podcast by Newsmax Podcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode, guest-hosted by Tom Shattuck (of The Maine Wire), dives into the explosive Maine Senate race and its national implications, focusing on Democratic candidate Graham Platner. Shattuck and guest Michael Charbonne (Charbonne Report) unpack the controversy swirling around Platner, the broader state of Democratic and progressive politics, and rising cultural tensions in the U.S. and Canada.

Core themes include: the political future hinging on Senate control, the Democratic Party's embrace of radical progressivism, Platner's personal controversies, and the left’s handling of these challenges amidst increasing pressure from conservative critics. The episode blends hard-hitting political analysis, parody, and caustic humor in the show's signature style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Stakes: Why the Maine Senate Race Matters

• Shattuck stresses the national significance: Senate control could shift the balance of power.
  • “If Platner wins, it is finito for certainly the MAGA movement for at least the next two years and maybe forever.” (03:09)
  • Democrats are seen as poised for “impeachment city” if they prevail.

2. Graham Platner: “Repackaged Communism” & Progressive Branding

• Shattuck sharply critiques Platner, calling him “a classic communist” and “an odd duck” who is nevertheless embraced due to progressive branding and populist narrative.
  • “It is remarkable that Democrats, once you repackage a communist, Democrats will buy it up every time.” (04:32)
  • Platner’s appeal: blue-collar image (oyster farmer, boots) juxtaposed with radical policies.
• Alludes to the left’s willing embrace of such candidates for hope and excitement:
  • “They get high off the hopefulness, the optimism, the compassion of the speeches. Oh, that sounds so nice, Mom.” (08:28)

3. Law Enforcement as a Political Target

• Extended critique of progressive calls to abolish and defund law-enforcement agencies like ICE.
  • Clips of Laura Dunn (NY Dem) accuse ICE of being a “political weapon” and call for its termination.
    • “It is an agency that has been turned into a political weapon by the Trump administration to terrorize communities and, quite frankly, murder American citizens in the streets.” (05:14, Laura Dunn)
    • “Organizations that ... are built around... violence ... you can’t reform that. ... You need to get rid of it all.” (07:12, Laura Dunn)
  • Shattuck equates this rhetoric to historical radicalism: “This is Robespierre. This is the French Revolution. It’s nothing new. ... But it’s been repackaged.” (07:59)

4. The Platner Scandals, Cover-Ups & Anticipated Exposé

• Shattuck references ongoing sexual and ethical scandals involving Platner, notably his use of the Kik app (often linked to grooming/abuse cases).
  • “What is your kink exactly? And that’s just the most recent thing we find out... Just about everybody in journalism for the last 48, 72 hours has been waiting for a story to drop, and it’s going to drop. And this one’s not going to be so easy to turn away from...” (11:20)
  • Suggests impending criminal revelations could destroy Platner's candidacy.
• Highlights Democrats’ evasiveness:
  • Repeated, robotic talking points from Platner supporters: “We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate.” (16:15–16:42)

5. Democratic Disarray and Dissent

• Senator John Fetterman emerges as an internal critic:
  • “What kind of a creeper has been on a decade on a platform like Kik and send a dozen explicit kinds of messages and who knows what else.” (14:27, John Fetterman)
  • Fetterman portrayed as “the guy who's making the most sense on the Democratic side” despite his physical challenges.
• Example of party loyalists refusing to address Platner's issues, banking instead on victory for Senate control.

6. Progressive Failures & Consequences in Blue States

• Both hosts discuss the "rot and crime" in progressive strongholds like Maine, Massachusetts, California, and New York.
  • “Lewiston, Maine, was once a really great city. Now it's just homeless encampments. And progressives... say, job well done, that's fine.” (25:03)
  • California: billions spent on failed high-speed rail; homelessness rampant; beautiful geography as only asset untouched by progressive policy. (29:43–30:13)

7. Radicalization and Identity Politics

• The conversation turns to radical left influence:
  • “Far left has taken over the Democratic Party. ... America has to wake up.” (27:47, Michael Charbonne)
  • Charbonne discusses radical Islamism in politics, warning of social division and loss of American clarity.
  • Shattuck: Attempts to expose Medicaid fraud among Somali communities in Maine.

8. Broader Cultural/Perspective: U.S.-Canada & Media Bias

• Comparison of political problems in U.S. and Canada:
  • “We are gifted these naturally, geographically beautiful pieces of land and progressivism ... squandering it. Squandering, rotting it." (25:03–25:33)
  • Critique of media coverage and leftist bias in both countries.
• Praise for sources outside the mainstream, criticism of media’s avoidance of uncomfortable stories.

9. Abolish ICE: Reparations and Abolitionism

• Extended riff on progressive plans for reparations and targeting of ICE agents.
  • “My first act in Congress will be to ensure that we have Truth and Reconciliation Commissions. I want to unmask these ICE agents.” (33:43, Laura Dunn)
  • Shattuck's reaction: “Reparations for illegals. That’s where we are now in the US. The progressives are just pushing harder.” (34:11)

10. Parody & Satirical Tone

• Throughout, the show uses caustic humor and music/radio references to highlight the absurdity of the news cycle and political events.
  • Comparing Platner to boy bands’ popularity: “We were into the Backstreet Boys in 1998 when they weren’t good, but it was time for the Backstreet Boys.” (18:22)
  • “He is a TV show for Democrats to watch.” (18:59)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Notable Quote / Moment | |-----------|------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:09 | T. Shattuck| “If Platner wins, it is finito for certainly the MAGA movement for at least the next two years and maybe forever.” | | 04:32 | T. Shattuck| “It is remarkable that Democrats, once you repackage a communist, Democrats will buy it up every time.” | | 05:14 | Laura Dunn | “It is an agency ... turned into a political weapon ... to terrorize communities and, quite frankly, murder American citizens in the streets.” | | 07:59 | T. Shattuck| “Break it all down, start in year zero. This is Robespierre. This is the French Revolution. It's nothing new. ...” | |11:20 | T. Shattuck| “Just about everybody in journalism for the last 48, 72 hours has been waiting for a story to drop, and it’s going to drop.”| | 14:27 | J. Fetterman| “What kind of a creeper has been on a decade on a platform like Kik and send a dozen explicit kinds of messages...” | | 16:15–16:42| Platner Supporters | “We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate.” (repeated evasive response to scandals) | | 18:59 | T. Shattuck| “He is a TV show for Democrats to watch. His social media team is Mom, Donnie's social media team. It's the same group of people...” | | 27:47 | M. Charbonne| “The far left has taken over the Democratic Party. It started in New York ... America has to wake up.” | | 33:43 | Laura Dunn | “My first act in Congress will be to ensure that we have Truth and Reconciliation Commissions. I want to unmask these ICE agents.” | | 34:11 | T. Shattuck| “Hear that? Reparations. Reparations for illegals. That's where we are now in the US. The progressives are just pushing harder.” |

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• 01:11 - Tom Shattuck intro; major stakes of the Maine Senate race.
• 03:09–05:14 - Analysis of Democrats’ Senate strategy, Platner’s radicalism.
• 05:14–07:59 - Laura Dunn clip; leftist criticism of law enforcement; Shattuck commentary.
• 10:48–11:20 - Platner’s scandals and imminent journalistic exposé preview.
• 14:27–14:59 - Senator Fetterman critiques Platner.
• 16:15–16:42 - Democrats’ evasive responses to Platner’s controversies (looped talking point).
• 18:22–18:59 - Platner as “populist/TV show” and the power of narrative/branding.
• 23:03–24:29 - Charbonne joins: Maine’s political climate and political “wackos”.
• 25:03–25:33 - Progressive policies and urban decay.
• 27:47–28:52 - Far left in Democratic Party; radicalization, multicultural tensions.
• 33:43–35:10 - Laura Dunn returns, call for ICE abolition, unmasking, and reparations.
• 37:11–37:52 - Satirical commentary on the Obama Presidential Library.
• 39:26–40:05 - Light moment: most iconic rock bands from U.S./Canada/U.K.

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Structure & Tone

• Language & Tone: Conversational, sarcastic, and blunt, with segments of parody and hyperbole. Critical of progressives, often mocking or incredulous, with satirical comparisons.
• Delivery: Mix of news analysis, rapid-fire banter, and culture war commentary.

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For New Listeners

If you missed the episode, you'll leave understanding:

• Why the Maine Senate race is a national powder keg for both parties.
• How the left’s embrace of controversial candidates like Graham Platner is reshaping Democratic politics—and how critics exploit their scandals.
• The deep skepticism (and mockery) that conservative commentators direct at progressive law enforcement policies and social movements.
• The broader sense of social upheaval and the media echo chamber fueling current American political divides.

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Transcript

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You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show. You know what, this is the most exciting show in America to be guest hosting in. I'm Tom Shettykin for Rob Carson. But this is the most exciting time politically that I can remember for years and years, maybe even decades. You know, the world depends. Our politics depends. The future of the Democratic Party, the future of the Republican Party. It depends on what happens in the Senate. What happens this November for the United States Senate. Now Democrats win the Senate and they win the House, which is so far pretty much predicted the House anyway. Then it's impeachment city and it's going to be just a mess. And you've seen, we saw a preview last time, what they do, right? But if they get the Senate, then they're gonna put the screws to Trump and try to. There's no limit to what they can do if they get it all. So that would be no bueno and we don't want that. Which brings us to this moment, of course, you've been. Rob's been talking all week about Graham Platner. Graham Platner of Maine, by the way, once again, I'm Tom Shattuck. I work for the Maine Wire. And this is a good time for us because we are inundated with the press from around the world right now trying to find out who this guy is. Exactly. And we're finding out who he is day after day after day. This Senate race in Maine is everything. It's everything. If they win, if Platner wins, it is finito for certainly the MAGA movement for at least the next two years and maybe forever. But as you all know, the Democrats chose badly. They chose a communist, a guy who was happy. Now, that should be enough. You know, it used to be. And the left says, no, it doesn't matter. Trump's an authoritarian. Shut up. He's not an authoritarian. An authoritarian doesn't get yelled at by the press in the Oval Office for an hour at point blank distance. It's not how it works. But, you know, Platner has said, yeah, of course, yeah. The means of production and private property. Absolutely. He's already complaining about prices of groceries and prices this and saying that there needs to be more government control. He is a classic communist. He's Mom, Donnie, he's aoc, he's all of these people. You've seen Bernie say he loves the guy, right? But Platinum is an odd duck. And that is the saving grace, or could be the saving grace in all this. Because although Susan Collins, the independent isn't exactly great, this guy is a game changer. He is no bueno. He's a psycho. Rob's played all the cuts, so you've heard it already. All of the tenets of communism he talks about. And for some reason, Mainers and all of these mobilized boomers or running around with whistles to blow at ICE are buying into. They're exciting, excited about it. They're excited about the brand. Oh, my goodness. He's an oyster farmer. He wears boots. He doesn't dress up. He's different. It's different this time. Ooh. It is remarkable that Democrats, once you repackage a communist, Democrats will buy it up every time, every time. They never get sick of it. And that's what this guy is. And it's so. I'm more disappointed because, like, all of his rhetoric is just the same. Here we go.

[Laura Dunn]

It is an agency that has been turned into a political weapon by the Trump administration to terrorize communities and, quite frankly, murder American citizens in the streets. It has been turned into a tool not to.

[Tom Shattuck]

Can I just say, there was a time when political people and candidates didn't go around calling law enforcement murderers. Not anymore, it's not anymore. This guy is Happy to tell these people in this room that, yes, there are brown shirts walking around and they will wax you if you go out there and just try to live. These people are trying to tell you that, yes, if you're a. An unemployed lesbian poet and you're just simply driving around, you'll get snuffed out by ice. Or if you're a wannabe tough guy male nurse and you're just minding your own business, ICE is gonna stop and shoot you. So this is what Platinum is selling. In other times, the times of sanity, we would. We would say that that's insane. But those days are over. We don't do that anymore. We just simply don't do that anymore. And that is no good. That is absolutely no good. And at some point there's going to have to be a reckoning here so that we can get back to just a, you know, some making some sense of everything. But that's not happening right now. That is not happening. Here's more.

[Laura Dunn]

Platinum enforce immigration law, but merely as a tool of political coercion. And an agency that's been doing that, in my opinion, does not deserve to exist in the future.

[Tom Shattuck]

So

[Laura Dunn]

in the short term, I would just say this. I will always in the Senate, be there to make sure we don't fund it and that we are constantly working to try to get rid of it entirely. Organizations that are built around, in many ways, controlled violence, they require an immense amount of discipline and an immense amount of accountability. Those are things that you cannot just invent. And if an agency has a culture in which it has no accountability and people are essentially incentivized to go out of their way and break the rules, you can't reform that. There's no amount of body cams or extra training that's going to fix that. You need to get rid of it all and you need to start over entirely.

[Tom Shattuck]

So there, you see? I mean, it's standard stuff. Break it all down, start in year zero. This is Robespierre. This is the French Revolution. It's nothing new. We've heard this stuff for years and years and years, but it's been repackaged. And this is Graham Platner. And so now the left is excited about it because for some reason, for some reason, progressives. Look at all of the destruction that progressivism has caused. All of the crime, all of the rot, all of the death, all of the just decay. You look at blue cities, parts of Boston, certainly Los Angeles, just look what Spencer Pratt is talking about over there. These big blue cities. That should be just pinnacles of modern civilization, of men's ability to create from the ground, create from the dirt. The marvels, technology and advancement. But we've ruined them. We've ruined them. California is such a great example because it's a state that's gorgeous. California is devastatingly beautiful. And that's, of course, their one big commodity, is that it's devastatingly beautiful. And that's the one thing, of course, that the Democrats can't destroy totally yet, because that's geology. You know, they can't undo what the glaciers did quite yet. Same thing in Maine, where Grand Platner is. It's a gorgeous state. It is breathtaking. The same thing in Massachusetts and Connecticut. These blue states are beautiful, absolutely beautiful. But it's a progressivism that destroys them. We've seen it. And it also makes no sense. All it is, these people go to see Graham Platner. These people, they're not thinking anything through. They're not thinking anything through. They're hearing more. They get high off the hopefulness, the optimism, the compassion of the speeches. Oh, that sounds so nice, Mom. Tommy's nice and he's cute and he eats with his hands and he has a cute smile. Uh, okay. You said the same thing about de Blasio, who ruined your city while looking like one of the biggest single Jack. You know what's in the history of modern politics? I'll fall for it just one more time. One more time. So now it's. Aren't you worried about more coming out about his past that could damage his chances?

[Kiana]

What I'm worried about is another day of war in Iran.

[Tom Shattuck]

Are these accusations disturbing to you?

[Kiana]

What is disturbing to me is what's happening in this economy and how right now the Republicans just sign off on it.

[Tom Shattuck]

Liz Warren said he's my type of guy just a couple of weeks ago. Graham Platinum is my type of guy now. They don't talk about him. They don't talk about him anymore because they don't know what to do because he's an odd duck with a lot of odd sexual proclivities. The Kick app thing is weird. We've got a. I work with a crime reporter, and so he's always going through court documents, going to courts, looking at police reports. And the one thing, the one threat that has to do with all the pederast, you know, apprehensions that happen is the Kick app looking for young prey. And that's what they use, and that's what Platinum has. And why, if you're a 40 year old guy, like, what do you need that for? What exactly is going on? What is your kink exactly? And that's just the most recent thing we find out. He's not a real harbor master and he's sexting people a year and a half ago. The dude's a newlywed, which also seems odd. It's all lies and it's all coming out. And I will tell you. And Rob has hinted about this and other people have hinted. Just about everybody in journalism for the last 48, 72 hours has been waiting for a story to drop and it's going to drop. And this one's not going to be so easy to turn away from because this is not just his kink or interest in really young people or interest in, you know, recreational enjoyment and Porta Potties. That stuff's a whole year. This stuff is a. What's going to drop is going to be a criminal. And it's going to be hard for any woman, anybody who wore one of those pink hats, anybody driving around with a whistle, yelling at ice, any moon bat on top of a bridge over a highway. You say no kings. When this happens, it's going to be no bueno for them. It's going to be no good. Until then, Democrats don't know what to do. And after the break here, we're going to come back and play a little sound of Democrats in Washington D.C. and elsewhere around the country trying to figure out what exactly how to handle the Platner situation while they're waiting for this bomb to drop. And it's going to drop. My name is Tom Shadick. This is Rob Carson Show. The Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere. Go to Newsmax.com, Yeah, I think the left is having any difficulty dealing with the reality. I would say so. I would say so because it is about to drop. I'm already hearing that to the sources. Could be, could be Jake Tapper, which is weird that they'd give it to Jake Tapper if it was not really, actually. Because if the person I think it is who was victimized is who it is, then you probably would want to be with Jake Tapper. Not on Fox. Not all Democrats are buying this, by the way, are buying the Graham Platner Show. Senator John Fetterman, who we've talked about as the biggest surprise in the history of the Senate. Fetterman ain't having it.

[John Fetterman]

What kind of a creeper has been on a decade on a platform like Kik and send a dozen explicit kinds of messages and who knows what else

[Tom Shattuck]

would it be better for Democrats if he was not the candidate here?

[John Fetterman]

All I'm saying, it's like, you know, when I was growing up, if someone had a clear Nazi tattoo on them, you probably could conclude that there's a Nazi sympathizer at some point. Are you going to continue to defend that or dismiss that?

[Tom Shattuck]

Yeah. Time was we didn't. Time was we didn't. John Fetterman, you're exactly right. The guy who took a stroke is the guy who's making the most sense on the Democratic side of the aisle in Washington, D.C. that's just simply where we are. This is our new reality. Just absolutely amazing. Amazing that this is where we are. But this is where we are. This is what the left wants. They're excited about it. I don't know why they're excited about it, but they're acting excited about it. So, you know, I'm blown away. I know that they've done it to themselves because they've cornered themselves. Like Chuck Schumer is like, oh, well. Well, it is what it is. It is. Are you satisfied with the explanations he's given for the controversies his campaign is case right now. Are you concerned about what we've heard?

[Graham Platner Supporter]

I met with Graham Platler today. We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate.

[Michael Charbonne]

So you're saying that Janet Mills, your

[Tom Shattuck]

preferred candidate there's been rattling that she

[Michael Charbonne]

should get back in. You're standing behind Graham Platner.

[Graham Platner Supporter]

To be clear here, we're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate.

[Tom Shattuck]

Is that per ability and is.

[Graham Platner Supporter]

We're going to take back. We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate. Any other subject? You got any other subjects?

[Tom Shattuck]

Yes, yes, you right there.

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Do you believe that Janet Mill should unsuspend her campaign?

[Graham Platner Supporter]

We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate.

[Tom Shattuck]

Last one, you have not said if you're still endorsing grand planner. Are you still supporting Graham Plat?

[Graham Platner Supporter]

As I said, I endorse Graham Platner. We're going to take back. We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate. Thank you.

[Tom Shattuck]

So once again, we're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate. Well, what about the porta potty? We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate. What about sexting? We're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate. What about the app that is often used to pick up underage but we're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate doesn't sound like somebody really confident in their candidate, but they know it's going to happen. I just don't know why we're being toyed with and that it's quite. Hasn't quite happened now, but it's fun, man. They don't know what to do. They don't know what to do. They don't know how to act. They don't know what to say. They're trying to tell you that, you know, it doesn't matter. And, you know, Trump is problematic, too, and maybe he is problematic, but he's not weird like this. And everybody knew Trump. But this is a new animal here, because you've got the left here embracing this guy who's problematic. Every part of him is problematic. And he's running away from the media, and that's never a good sign. Our reporters are up there in Maine, and he is sprinting now. He's sprinting. We had one of our reporters the other day following him Grand Platinum sprinting away with a guy in a bear costume, you know, playing a security guard for Grand Platinum, which is also a little odd. But there's a lot of odd people in Grand Platinum's orbits. He's been pushing around and accosting and trying to bully members of the press with these little henchmen that he keeps around. Nobody understands why or who. Nobody gets this guy. Nobody gets this guy at all. And what we're having, what's happening is, is he's just a feeling. He's a good feeling. He's in because he's in. He's in because it's time for somebody like him to be in. So we're into it. We were into the back Backstreet Boys in 1998 when they weren't good, but it was time for the Backstreet Boys. And he danced with chairs. And then it was time. We were in dancing. They sold a trillion albums, and, you know, all the boy bands exploded, and then they weren't in anymore. And there's no reason, there's no way to look back and say, you know what? This was a time when everybody was really well thought out and thoughtful about their music choices. And then the Backstreet Boys exploded onto the scene for good reason. No, Platter's just a populist candidate. He's a TV show for Democrats to watch. His social media team is Mom, Donnie's social media team. It's the same group of people, and this is just what they do. They put together an Instagram TikTok candidate who tells a simple story. I'm an oyster farmer. And that you know why you're not rich? Because the oligarchs have the money, the billionaires. Of course he's a rich guy and a spoiled rich kid. Has been his whole life. But it doesn't matter. The story's easy. He's an oyster farmer. Oligarchs. Susan Collins drafted him. There was a draft. Apparently that happened 2002. Only one person was drafted. That was Graham Platner. Susan Collins drafted him, brought him into war, sent him back to war again and again. And that's the story he tells. And that's the story he's going to tell. And that's all he's going to say. And if you ask him more questions like why are you perverted? He's going to sprint. Amazing time. Michael Sharborn joins us staff of the Break here. I'm Tom Shattock and Rob Carson show.

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[Tom Shattuck]

Why are you doing this? It was our idea together. Yeah, okay. Okay.

[Bol and Branch Spokesperson]

We agreed to say that.

[Tom Shattuck]

But on. That, music can only mean one thing. That is Michael Charbonne on the Newsmax hotline. You know him from the Charbonne Report. Michael, good afternoon. How are you?

[Michael Charbonne]

Tom, great to hear you. Listen, it's an honor to be on the Rob Carson show with all those syndicated radio listeners as well as streaming live on the Newsmax. I know, I know it kind of took you off listening to the Great White north because you were expecting more kids on New Kids on the Block. But I gotta tell you, can you please explain to all our listeners what they're smoking in Maine to back this Graham Platner fella? I just don't get it.

[Tom Shattuck]

I don't know. I figured it's a border state with Canada, so maybe you could tell me. Maybe it's something blowing south. It is amazing. But you probably have heard, like, I have, like everybody in media has heard that something is about to drop and something a little bit more serious.

[Michael Charbonne]

And.

[Tom Shattuck]

Yeah, there's a level of populist highness going on in Maine that is. Is just wacky. You know, we've been down there following him around, riding with the main wire, and the people around him are just nuts. These people are wackos.

[Michael Charbonne]

We gotta keep recording stuff like that and just keep repeating. I loved your soundbite there with Chuck Schumer about repeating the same doctrine. I also think it's absolutely fantastic that the only salient conscious Democrat in all of America is Fetterman.

[Tom Shattuck]

Yes.

[Michael Charbonne]

If they put him up to run in a hoodie and a sweatshirt, he could probably lead the Democrats and do some damage. But I just can't believe what's going on in Maine. It's ridiculous. It's embarrassing. No.

[Tom Shattuck]

Yeah. And they want to repeat the same progressive communist policies that have put Maine in a ditch. I mean, you know, it's. Well, you know, very well in Canada as well. We're gifted. These Naturally, geographically beautiful pieces of land and progressivism. And it's just squandering it. Squandering, rotting it. And it's awful. Lewiston, Maine, was once a really great city. Now it's just homeless encampments. And progressives look at this stuff and they say, job well done, that's fine.

[Michael Charbonne]

But you know what? Those Democratic bookends like Maine and New York and California, less Canadians are traveling because our dollar is low, your dollar is high. And it's going to start to affect things. People are going to Florida, it's safe, it's fun, it's sunny, we don't have to worry about it. And DeSantis doesn't sit there and kowtow to criminals, etc. So that's gonna be. That's gonna be an effect that's gonna affect America in their pocketbooks. So I tell you.

[Tom Shattuck]

So, like what, so what is, what is the progressive dream? Is a progressive dream that people can come to Maine and get the, you know, legally high and be zombified in the streets. And if I want to just end it all and I go over to Canada and tell them I want to commit suicide, like, is that the fantasy that they want for us?

[Michael Charbonne]

I don't know what it is. I can't understand how a politician who is trying to get elected can stand there with all the media hype that's going. The unfortunate reality is that in America, much like that we have in Canada, as far as the media, the media is left leaning. So anything bad you don't want to talk about, the rotten eggs, buy the dozen and it'll all work out. I mean, this is, this is going to be a serious consideration, but I think it's going to be implosive. And if they can, if they can continue supporting him. And when this little piece that you're talking about drops that some people in the media know about, I'm going to tell you, it's going to be the coup de grace, they say.

[Tom Shattuck]

Yeah, we were talking to Michael Charbone on the Newsmax hotline. Michael, let me ask you something. Our candidates here, our Democratic candidates in the US are getting more and more freaky. They really are. We've seen some of these people who just won elections, midterm elections. Communists, radical Muslims. There's an interesting guy for Senates in Texas. I don't know what his deal is, but he gives very Tim Walls vibes. You know, there was a time when, like, when the most milquetoast guy in politics was Justin Trudeau. It's not anymore. There are some wackos now who are just clamoring to win seats in elected office.

[Michael Charbonne]

The far left has taken over the Democratic Party. It started in New York. When you look at Mamdani and you look at what he says and what he's doing, America has to wake up. America has to look at what is going on in England. America has to wake up. The Islamification of some states and political offices are things that we have to. Now there are many, it has to be said, there are many Muslims who walk hand in hand with Jews, Christians, et cetera. They don't want anything to do with the radicalism. And we have to bond with them and march with them and be able to stop what is starting to happen. And when you look at the far left, can you imagine people 30 years ago seeing some of the things that are going on in New York and some of the things that are happening to the beautiful state of California. As you so rightly said previously, America, can't you see this? Or they just don't want to. I don't know. It's sad. It's sad. It's sad.

[Tom Shattuck]

Well, that's what Another thing that's happening in Maine, which brings us back to Platner is that there is a lot of Somali fraud. A lot of these health care agencies, much like with Minnesota, they don't really exist. There are brick and mortar buildings with 30 businesses in them, none of which is manned by a human being. And they're all billing Medicaid.

[Michael Charbonne]

You do what California does. You pass a law that says you can't sit there and have someone who's going to detect fraud. So it all washes away. And then you can take that fast speeds train from LA to San Francisco. You just sit on the train. I mean it's. What is it, $30 billion in seven. That's the California solution. I mean thank goodness Steve Hilton is in there. That is going to shake some martinis. I'm going to tell you, you've got

[Tom Shattuck]

such a, such a good point about the California, the high speed rail. It is billions in debt. They keep telling us this is the last 4 billion we need, then we'll really start building. They barely broke ground on the thing. They've just built an overhead pass, an overpass from that's leading one half of the highway to another half of the highway. So that animal for animals, Michael. So wild animals like mountain lions can walk from one neighborhood into another like these people.

[Michael Charbonne]

Tom, you're wrong. That was so the ladies from the view can get to the quick service station.

[Tom Shattuck]

I don't know if that would be

[Michael Charbonne]

structurally sound, but did you not see Steve Hilton did a gig down there. He says, why don't you take the train? And I'm thinking, oh, my God. He's got the same kind of application as the war that's going on for the mayoral race in L. A. I really hope that California wakes up and realizes the plight that they're in. But I think the Trump administration and their frauds are just went and got a whole bunch of other stuff that's happening. So hopefully this is all going to bubble to the top, Tom. But I don't know, some of us are really losing faith in America's clarity in understanding democracy and how the communist vein and the socialist nature of the Democrats is creeping in.

[Tom Shattuck]

Yeah, well, I mean, we live in a world here where Justin Trudeau wants to come down and throw a bunch of truckers in jail because they're hateful. Assembly. At the same time, in colleges, including maybe even McGill, at colleges across the United States, you have people menacing Jews for being Jews on campus. And that's okay. That's okay. And you can't get these college presidents to even condemn it, like, culturally. How do you come back from that?

[Michael Charbonne]

I don't know. We have a situation here in Canada where there are radical Muslim groups that are marching through Jewish neighborhoods with placards saying from the. Was it from the river to the sea? From the seventies to the sea? Correct. Burning effigies and basically challenging people marching through a community. I mean, we have synagogues that are defaced. I mean, I'm Jewish. I'm not Jewish. I'm Jewish. I have many friends and people that I work with. I even went to a Seder as a gentile, and it was the most amazing thing. But any religion, anybody who supports common sense and freedom knows that what they're doing is wrong. And this whole thing about the Free Palestine is just a ruse for what's happening and it's anti Semitism.

[Tom Shattuck]

Well, hold it right there, Michael. We're going to continue on with that in the next segment here. Michael Charbon joins us, and we'll be right back to talk much more about. I've got a piece of audio that I can't wait to run by Michael. My name is Tom Shattuck. This is the Rob Carson Show. What a day, What a week. What a year. Really. What, what, 10 years this has been, man. It's been an exciting time to be in media. We are thrilled to Be talking to Michael Charbone on the Newsmax hotline. Hey Michael, I want to run something by you here. This is where we are now in American politics. So obviously immigration has been a thing here in the us. Here in illegal immigration has come to a head now where the Democrats have convinced Americans that ice, the people who the cops for illegal immigrants, that ICE are bad, yada yada yada. This is a New York Democrat, Laura Dunn, talking about abolishing ice, but she's even got a better idea.

[Kiana]

So we really need to take this country back. It's not just abolishing ice. It's reducing Customs and Border Patrol from the hundred mile jurisdiction to just 10. They are there for a specific purpose, not more. My first act in Congress will be to ensure that we have Truth and Reconciliation Commissions. I want to unmask these ICE agents. I want them named and I want victim compensation for what they, they have done for the survivors.

[Tom Shattuck]

Hear that? Reparations. Reparations for illegals. That's where we are now in the us. The progressives are just pushing harder.

[Michael Charbonne]

Yeah, well that's not going to fly in California. And the unmasking of the ICE agents is because they're being docked. Why don't we talk about the demonstrators who are walking around with kippers on and masking their faces and they have no reason to have their faces masked. How about passing a law saying that if you want to demonstrate, you, you have to show your face and when you show your face, then ICE will show their face. Let's do that. Make that a reciprocal law. And secondly, if you get rid of ice, remember what happened to DC before Donald Trump came in when they got rid of the cops. And now look at what DCs at. The Republicans have to keep ringing that bell and keep exposing the Democrats for trying to destroy what democracy is and going in favor of the criminals tomorrow.

[Tom Shattuck]

Well, yeah, you just made a great point as well. You said, you know, the reason that ICE people have masks is because they're going to get doxxed and threatened. We literally have antifa people fighting ICE saying, we have your face, we're going to kill you. We have your face, we're going to kill you. These thugs, these antifa thugs and these other terrorists, these people believe that they are in a revolution. This is the French Revolution to them. They believe their enemies should die. These are the kind of people who believe that anybody has, who has my politics, your politics, Rob Carson's politics, they believe we have it coming. They see Charlie Kirk, they say, yeah, he had it coming. So this is like, it's really on, Michael.

[Michael Charbonne]

But when you take a look at the people who are arrested in New Jersey, a huge number of them are from outside the state. So that just goes to prove that these are professional people who are there to agitate. They also had, as you saw on the news, they had a guy who infiltrated a supply tent for all these people. So this is not just some bubbling up 70 year old people who have nothing to do but to carry placards and complain. This is vigilantism that is being funded and it is vigilantism which is featuring people with their faces covered and getting into physical activity with police. And by the way, the final point, that New Jersey facility, guess who originally created it? The Obama administration. So let's start being real about what's going on. I mean it's, this is, this is a fight. This is a fight for more than just ice, that's for sure.

[Tom Shattuck]

Tom, you know, it's funny you mentioned that. I was just reading during the break an article and guess what's opening soon. Michael, I think I could probably score us a couple of tickets to the grand opening. The Obama presidential library is opening on Juneteenth. Now I don't sure what date that is. I'm having to download all the new woke holidays, you know, as they come along. But if that's not a sign, that

[Michael Charbonne]

has got to be the. It reminds me of an album cover with a who where everybody peed against that concrete building. I just don't, I just don't get it. It's the ugliest thing. And you know, I mean, God bless. That's, you know, Obama, he did what he did, he accomplished what he did. Some liked him, some didn't. And every president's got to have a library. But I think there's going to be the Salmanex center that's opening for Biden. I don't know how that's going to work. It's just the ugliest thing in Chicago. These big concrete, ugly.

[Tom Shattuck]

Yes. I don't know. Yeah, it looks like, it looks like some things in Star wars that the jawas drove around in gathering up robots.

[Michael Charbonne]

Well, I mean, I don't know, it's just one of those things. It's the tradition that the president always has to open up a library. So of course Obama's gonna open his library in Chicago. I get that, but it's just, I don't know who designed it, but it was just, it's just brutal. It's disturbing. You know, when we see all these things that are going. We're very fortunate in Canada, particularly in Toronto, that we get all your media outlets, from mismatch to all the media outlets and we get to see a real cross section. And when you put two of them up against each other, you really see the bias that's there and the unreporting, the unreporting of things. I mean, very much like we were talking about platinum. But how can, how can a state of California still not be able to deliver the results in their by election when I think the example was that the nation of state, Spain, which has more people in it than the people in California, can determine what the results of a vote is the same night. I mean, it's embarrassing. And there you go again with the bookends, the Democratic bookends trying to screw up America. Donald Trump should say, you know what, all the sanctuary cities should stay. Every single illegal immigrant and every single criminal should go to every single sanctuary city. And what we're going to do is we're not going to give you any money. And now we're going to see how long that's going to last. What do you do? What do you do?

[Tom Shattuck]

Michael Sharbone, before we let you go, you mentioned, we talked about Rush, the greatest Canadian rock band. You mentioned who's next? The who maybe the greatest British rock band. Who's the greatest American rock band?

[Michael Charbonne]

Who's the main what?

[Tom Shattuck]

Who's the greatest American rock band, the

[Michael Charbonne]

greatest American rock band? I would say the Rolling Stones, because they're just going to release another album. And I mean, These boys are 80 years old. I mean, Keith Richards, I think, is the only man who could be walking with the amount of sex and drugs and rock and roll that's gone through that man's veins. So I would say probably the Rolling Stones and Michael Sharbon.

[Tom Shattuck]

Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Always great talking to you. Keith Richards has so many, has had so many blood transfusions and in America, he basically is American right now. My name is Tom Shaduck. This is the Rob Carson Show. It's not a bad one either. Maybe it's Hendrix. Does Hendrix count as a band? He played with a band. I gotta tell you one thing there is, but nothing as fascinating as watching the left continue to mourn the loss of Scott Pelley and complain about Barry Weiss, you know, having heads roll at cbs. These people are so entitled, so entitled. They so act like the elites. They are so much better than you. Don't you understand the important institutions of journalism. Our prized First Amendment is truth to power. And they're just hacks. They're just drunken, wacko activist hacks who are over credentialed, who got expensive diplomas from Columbia and Northwestern. And so they think they're better than you, and they'll talk down to you. And then let's say if there's something happens bad, if there's a shooting somewhere, they'll mention that, you know, Republicans are still against gun control. We have 26 billion guns on the earth. You know, America, hug your child a little bit harder today as they lecture you. Oh, there's nobody. There's nobody as gross as these people. They can't stop it. They can't stop it. More on the end of the press as we know it. We get back. This is the Rob Carson Show.