The COVID Reckoning Rolls On

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show – "The COVID Reckoning Rolls On"

Date: July 30, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Featured Guest: Michael Charbonne (The Charbonne Report, Canada)
Other Voices: Michael Charbonne, Anthony Fauci (clips), Guest Callers, Carl Higby (Newsmax host), various news clips

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Rob Carson Show" continues Carson's crusade against Dr. Anthony Fauci and the legacy of America's COVID-19 response. The main theme is a “reckoning” for the officials and institutions involved in the pandemic – especially Dr. Fauci – and a wider critique of the mainstream media, government agencies, and what Carson sees as their collusion and mishandling during the crisis. The tone is energetic, humorous, and combative, blending political commentary with personal anecdotes, parody, and sharp-edged critique. Canadian media host Michael Charbonne joins to give a North-of-the-border perspective, especially on Iranian politics, Canadian patriotism, and COVID’s global lessons.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fauci in the Congressional Crosshairs

• Opening Salvos:

  • Carson and callers lambast Dr. Fauci as a "criminal" and "genocidal maniac" for his role in COVID, alleging that he lied, paid for the creation of the virus, and refused to answer basic questions by pleading the fifth before Congress ([01:19]-[04:50]).
  • Carson: "He’s a little monster. ... I'm not going to forget what the little Fauci, the little Mengele of America, did to our country, our economy and our kids. Unbelievable. I will not forget it. I will not let it go." ([04:05])

• Fauci's Testimony:

  • Clips of Fauci repeatedly invoking the Fifth Amendment regarding funding gain-of-function research in China ([05:50], [06:32]).
  • Carson frames Fauci’s actions as evidence of guilt and draws a parallel between him and notorious serial killers, saying Fauci took perverse pleasure in pandemic attention ([06:40]-[08:00]).

2. COVID-19 Narrative & Media Critique

• Media Bias:

  • Carson accuses the "leftist media" of ignoring or excusing what he deems disastrous pandemic decisions and covering for Fauci and Democrats, holding them responsible for silencing the truth ([10:40]-[12:50]).
  • "Why even have a First Amendment? It is just so utterly, utterly, utterly ridiculous." ([15:28])

• Pandemic Policies and Impact:

  • Recap of “lies” and “disinformation,” the impact of COVID lockdowns, school closings, vaccination mandates, and government incentives for hospitals to label deaths as COVID-related ([13:53]-[17:01]).
  • Personal stories: Carson’s own children’s educational setbacks; Charbonne losing his sports production business; Carson’s distrust and refusal of the COVID vaccine due to perceived risk ([33:12]-[34:07]).
  • "I want figurative blood for all of that nonsense." – Rob Carson ([33:13])

3. Pardoning of Fauci and Legal Angles

• The 'Fauci Pardon' Question:

  • Discussion sparked by Newsmax host Carl Higby questioning the legality of a potential "blanket pardon" for Fauci, suggesting you can't pardon someone who hasn't been accused or convicted of a crime ([18:47]-[20:01]).
  • Carson: "You got to know what you did before you can pardon somebody for doing it." ([19:46])

• Calls for Legal and Political Consequences:

  • Higby and Carson advocate for holding Fauci and officials accountable for “killing people,” “malpractice,” and “insurrection” ([20:01]-[20:43], [41:43]-[41:53])
  • "Now put somebody in jail or shut up." – Carl Higby ([41:43])

4. Global Perspective: Iran, Canada, and Patriotism

• Iranian Protestors in Canada:

  • Michael Charbonne details how Iranian-Canadians support Donald Trump due to his stance against Iran’s regime ([25:16]-[26:43]).
  • Carson criticizes U.S. Democrats for not celebrating the liberation potential in Iran, branding their attitude as "thoroughly disgusting" ([25:58]-[26:43]).

• Patriotism and Global Trends:

  • Charbonne credits Trump’s influence with sparking Canadian patriotism ([30:50]):
    "The one thing that Donald Trump has done for some Canadians is he’s made us more Canadian because we lacked patriotism for the longest time."
  • Carson asserts that freedom is encircling the world, with Americans and others waking up to fight back against tyranny and censorship ([27:24]-[28:30]).

5. Broader COVID Reckoning: Societal and Health Consequences

• Societal Fallout from Lockdowns:

  • Both hosts discuss long-term societal damage: educational setbacks for children, businesses lost, health impacts, and a general rise in distrust towards authorities ([31:41]-[35:11]).

• Vaccine Skepticism & Health Data:

  • Carson cites comparative statistics showing COVID vaccine deaths far outnumber annual deaths from flu vaccines and Tylenol, reinforcing his view that vaccine mandates were unjustified ([34:07]).
  • Personal stories of vaccine injuries, including a family friend permanently sidelined from hiking, are shared to humanize their anger ([34:07]-[35:11]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Fauci and Accountability:

  • "He’s a freaking genocidal maniac. Unforgivable in every way and everybody knows." – Rob Carson ([02:43])
  • "He paid for the virus. There’s no doubt. ... He created a mutant virus that killed a lot of people. So if you know someone who died of COVID, Anthony Fauci is responsible for it." – Rob Carson ([06:40])

• Parody and Sarcasm:

  • Carson parodies mainstream media's coverage, mocking their training:
    "The only class you need is: only say bad things about Donald Trump and Republicans... Report all of that favorably. That's all you need to do." ([12:00])

• Media Critique:

  • "You know, I got to tell you, I started off the day today in a very, very unbelievable fashion. God has a sense of humor, very dark sense of humor." – Rob Carson ([11:14])
  • "Why even have a First Amendment? It is just so utterly, utterly, utterly ridiculous." ([15:28])

• Argument for Global Outrage:

  • "Don't you suppose there should be an outcry around the world maybe looking at the United States and Anthony Fauci as the cause of this?" – Rob Carson ([30:13])

• On Vaccine Mandates & Side Effects:

  • "I did not get the stupid, stupid, stupid vaccine. Sorry. It was stupid. I know you couldn't work. It's ridiculous." – Rob Carson ([34:07])

• Carl Higby’s Mic Drop:

  • "Now put somebody in jail or shut up." ([41:43])
  • "Even the women have cajones on Newsmax. ... it's just they're badass." – Rob Carson ([42:02])

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Important Timestamps

• [01:19] – Caller rants against Fauci and "disgrace" of pandemic response
• [04:05] – Carson launches into his personal crusade: "I will not forget..."
• [05:41] – Carson/Jesse Watters on "no dispute" about lab origin
• [06:32] – Fauci invokes Fifth Amendment on “gain of function” question
• [10:40] – Carson riff on media bias and media “corruption”
• [13:53] – Retrospective montage/sketch on pandemic restrictions
• [18:47] – Carl Higby segment questioning Fauci’s pardon
• [20:01] – Higby: "I would drop the hammer... for lying to Congress, for killing people..."
• [25:16] – Charbonne details Canadian-Iranian support for Trump
• [31:41] – Carson on personal losses, kids’ academic experience destroyed
• [34:07] – Carson lists comparative vaccine risk statistics
• [41:43] – Carl Higby on Fauci: "Now put somebody in jail or shut up."
• [42:02] – Carson plugs Newsmax in comedic style

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Segment Flow / Structure

1. Opening Riff: Carson’s satirical summary of the day’s news, targeting Fauci, Democrats, and "leftist media".
2. Collage of COVID Era Clips/Memories: Served with parody and music, highlighting contradictions and perceived failures.
3. Fauci's Congressional Hearing: Several segments circle back to Fauci’s refusal to answer questions and implications of a preemptive pardon.
4. Guest Interview: Michael Charbonne: Wide-ranging discussion about media suppression, Iranian protests, North American patriotism, and the ripple effects of COVID.
5. Vaccine & Mandate Impact: Carson and Charbonne share personal stories and argue for legal/financial reckoning for COVID policy architects.
6. Carl Higby Legal Rant: Higby's "drop the hammer" call and legal trivia on pardoning.
7. Newsmax and Audience Engagement: Repeated calls for legal action, audience solidarity, anti-mainstream media sentiment, all served with humor and intentional provocation.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a cathartic and unyielding call to remember the fallout from the COVID-19 pandemic, to seek accountability from officials and institutions, and to maintain vigilance against “media propaganda”. Rob Carson leverages both fact and political theater—intertwined with personal pain and anger—to keep the notion of a "COVID reckoning" alive in conservative political discourse.

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For listeners:
If you missed the broadcast, this summary encapsulates the main positions, memorable soundbites, and key insights from an episode devoted to a furious revisitation of COVID-era leadership and the promise of consequences yet to come.

Transcript

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[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

It was about six years ago today that I decided I'm going to give up my businesses, sell them all, run for office, run for the United States Senate. Here I am sitting in front of you six years later saying who the do you think you were for doing that? It is a total disgrace what you did to this country. And if my democrat colleagues are standing there defending you, I hope the voters the United States of America watch the clips of every one of you doting on a guy who was more interested in being a celebrity than saving American people. There is no defense of what you did. You may have had a 50 plus year legacy of public service, but it ends in total and complete disgrace.

[Rob Carson]

Yes. And no matter what msnow or CBS or CNN say, America knows he's a criminal. There you go. Welcome to the show. Please come inside. Unforgivable. Those fouchy lies. He lied about everything. He paid for the virus. Unforgivable. Your alibi. My alibi Singer. What the hell took the fifth? Cause I didn't want to be

[Show Announcer]

hauled

[Rob Carson]

away and charged with perjury. Let's hope he gets punished. On this life. Never before and in the next one have actions been more. Yeah, he's a. He's a freaking genocidal night maniac. Unforgivable in every way and everybody knows Every way everybody knows it no one

[Michael Charbonne]

believes

[Rob Carson]

a word I say. Heard you say the COVID up was so predictable My explanation's contradictable. It makes FY quite convictable, too. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. You know, I got to tell you, all of the things we went through and they think we're just going to forget about it. They thought we were just going to forget about it. They thought that you and I would say, oh, you know, 2020 is fine and Donald Trump will never be the president again. And they were friggin wrong. They were absolutely wrong. Because we are relentless. We are relentless. We do not forget. Maybe that's why the Republican mascot is an elephant. I don't even know. I don't even. Maybe.

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I don't know.

[Rob Carson]

But. But I'll tell you, we don't soon forget. And I'm not going to forget what the little fauci, the little mingala of America did to our country, our economy and our kids. Unbelievable. I will not forget it. I will not let it go. You cannot cause that kind of damage and expect to get away with it. You little monster. Yeah, he's a little monster. Bernie Marino was asked, he's the guy who you heard a second ago saying, what the f were you thinking? He's friggin fantastic. He was asked about Anthony Fauci pleading the fifth yesterday, getting on an elevator in Capitol Hill. Excellent, thanks.

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Senator Marino suspect Fauci's pleading the fifth after testifying 200 plus times before.

[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

This is a piece of.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, because he's a piece of crap. He is. He's a piece of crap. He is a. He is a megalomania. Mega lo. Maniacal. There you go. It's hard to say. Mega loma Nia Cole. That is like four syllables longer than the longest word Kamala Harris has ever used in her life. Right there. Look what I just did right there. Oh my God. I'm a friggin genius. Anyway, but he is. He is a narcissist. And yesterday I was talking to a news director here. Her name's Adele Malpass. She's awesome. And I said to her, I said, tony Fauci behaved like any serial killer with regard to the COVID pandemic. Because what he would do is he created the virus, he paid for the virus. There's no doubt he paid for the damn virus. Okay? There's just no doubt at all. Then he. Here, this is Jesse Waters talking about to. I'll just. I'm just going to play this real quick to set it up.

We all know the virus came from a Chinese lab. There's no dispute over that. No, and we know Tony funded the lab. Yes, we have the receipts.

Can you explain to the committee why you chose to fund this dangerous research in China?

[Anthony Fauci]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth amendment of the Constitution.

[Rob Carson]

We know the virus was man made, and that was Fauci's specialty.

Do you know why we know that? Because of the facts and because we're not stupid.

And Fauci's on the record saying man made viruses are worth the risk.

Yeah, he did. You said even if a scientist is bitten, even if a pandemic should occur, the knowledge is worth the risk. Do you still stand by that? Do you think that the risks really

[Show Announcer]

are worth the benefits for gain of function, research?

[Anthony Fauci]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution.

[Rob Carson]

So. And I do contend, because it's true, that if in fact. And he did pay to create the virus, he got off on it. He just. The thought of creating a mutant virus, I guess he couldn't handle it, and so he went forward with this research. And then ultimately it created a monster virus that killed a lot of people. So if you know someone who died of COVID Anthony Fauci is responsible for it. That's just the way it is. Anthony Fauci and the people who surrounded him are responsible for the death of a loved one of yours. If they died of COVID if they died on a respirator, a lot of people they put on their death certificate, they died of COVID To fluff the numbers, by the way, in case you didn't know, is the perverse incentive. They were paid, hospitals and counties were paid for putting Covid on the death certificate. This is why I don't know anybody who died of COVID I know thousands of people. I don't know anybody died of COVID Okay, I just don't. Back to the conversation I was having with Adele Malpass about Anthony Fauci being a serial killer. Serial killers have a pathos about them. And what they do is they are thrill killers, they are sociopaths, and frequently they are narcissistic. All right, so, you know, let's just say Charles Manson, he wanted to be a rock star, he wanted to be famous, all of that stuff, right? And he used stochastic terror to convince people to do the murdering for him. That's different. But you look at people like the BTK killer, he's in Kansas buying torture, kill. And Ted Kaczynski and the Zodiac killer, they commit the act and then contact local media or the letters to the editor and brag about it, or they get off on watching the press coverage they're getting. So in Anthony Fauci's diaries, he would open up by talking about how many people died that day, how many people were tested positive or whatever. And then he would talk about the fawning that he was getting online, like Julia Roberts performing an act of virtual oral gratification on him on a zoom call. And he got off on that. He really got into it, this guy. I'll tell you what, he has got to pay for this. There you go. He has got to pay for it, and we're not gonna forget it. And what I also hope you won't forget is that the media is completely dead. There's no. Honestly, unless you dream of living in the Soviet Union again, there's no reason to watch abc, NBC, cbs, Mississippi, now cnn. Because they will defend anything, anything at all, if it's against Trump and for the Democrat Party. That's all there is to it. They are completely and utterly corrupt. In 2020, when the country was burning, they said the protests were mostly peaceful. When hundreds and thousands of January the Sixers were arrested, many of them spent four years in prison without a trial at all, the media ignored the story. Hunter Biden's laptop, Joe Biden's dementia. I can go on and on and on. This is the latest and quite possibly the absolute worst example of how the media will look past genocide, death, destruction, trillions of dollars of damage, massive censorship, a generation of kids, education's destroyed, and the media will side with Anthony Friggin Fauci. You're dead to me. MSNBC. Ms. Now, whatever the hell you are, Ms. Cow, Mississippi idiot. Seeing all of you, all of you. I only play soundbites to make fun of you. I only make sound like because why do you even have a journalism degree? Here's what you do. If you want a journalism degree and you want to work for Ms. Now or cnn, you go to school. Day one, the first class. And the only class you need is only say bad things about Donald Trump and Republicans. And no matter what Democrats or someone associated with the party or what a socialist or a communist does, or China or Iran, any of that, any of America's enemies. Report all of that favorably. That's all you need to do. Break. Congratulations. You owe us $100,000 for tuition loans. Go out and get a job in journalism. Or as Autocannon says on rumble, urinalism. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You know, I got to tell you I started off the day today

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[Rob Carson]

a very, very unbelievable fashion. You know, I like to say God has a sense of humor, very dark sense of humor. Today, an example of that I'm going to share. I'm going to share it because I'm

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going to tell you.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, boy. I thought I was going to have. I thought I was going to have a stroke. Then I realized I haven't gotten the vaccine. But then this morning, just something happened that started off my day that was like, you've got to be kidding. I'm going to share that. Okay. Because it's now that a couple hours later, after nearly suffering a stroke and heart attack and jumping off a building, I can laugh at it now. Okay. Another good one. God, remember that day that on Valentine's Day when my wife served me divorce papers? That was good. That was really good. But this one is pretty good. Not as good as getting divorce papers on Valentine's Day. I understand the comedic value of that one. Today was just kind of messed up. So I'm going to share that on the show today. We got great guests today. We got Brigitte Gabriel on today. We got Gordon Chang on today. We got Michael Chabon from the Charbone Report in Canada on the show today. This, my friends, is a Thursday edition of the Rob Carson Show. Hey, guys, it's Carson for Relief Factor. When it comes to supplements, two things matter most. That it works and that you can trust it. I trust Relief Factor. We hear from people every single day whose lives have changed. And of course, we'd like you to hear a few of their stories. Mark, for instance, was in tears from his daily hand joint discomfort. But after a week on Relief factor, he felt 50% better. Now he barely even notices any pain. I can attest to this. It used to hurt getting up and out of chairs or even off the bench press at the gym. Not so much anymore. People like Mark make it easy to find out if you'll be the next person telling us a Relief Factor story and how it gave you your life back. Three weeks now, for just $17.76, simply go to relieffactor.com or call 1-800-for relief. They'll do everything they can to help. We hope you'll be sharing your story to relieffactor.com or 800 for relief.

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All right, so for those of you who don't remember what Anthony Fauci and the agencies that he worked with, including the NIAID that bought and Paid for Covid. In case you forgot what they put us through, here's a little refresher.

President Trump wrote on Twitter, don't be afraid of COVID Don't let it dominate your life.

Don't let it dominate your life.

In terms of responding to a Jake

Tapper, probably after having sex. I mean, having dinner with Anthony Fauci,

[Michael Charbonne]

I mean, like that.

[Rob Carson]

It's gross.

It's okay to be afraid of COVID

and it's okay that. That it's dominating your life.

[Michael Charbonne]

Everyone should be afraid of COVID You

[Rob Carson]

shall know the truth, and the truth

shall set you free.

That's Al Gore. I can't come in, Mom.

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It's there.

[Rob Carson]

It's because of this flu thing. We won't be free. That's a woman standing outside of a window and her mother dying in a nursing home that she couldn't see before she died of this pandemic. Until we listen to the acknowledged truth.

[Michael Charbonne]

Listen to.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you see, the truth was all a lie.

[Michael Charbonne]

The scientists.

[Rob Carson]

Science is truth.

[Anthony Fauci]

You know, science is truth.

[Rob Carson]

What is the impact to public health when people are openly questioning the science?

[Anthony Fauci]

Now is the time to do what

[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

you're told by not hearing the truth,

[Michael Charbonne]

by not listening to the scientists. They are pro.

[Rob Carson]

They. They called the truth disinformation. They did. So Joseph Stalin did the same thing.

[Anthony Fauci]

He.

[Rob Carson]

He came up with a disinformatia. He. He came up with a Western word so it wouldn't be so terrifying when the government told you what to believe, even though it was a lie.

[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

Longing. How bad the economy did that to us.

[Rob Carson]

I see some out in the world who's not wearing a mask. I instantly think you are a threat

or you are selfish or you are a Covid denier and you definitely haven't been. Or you look like a guy vaccinated.

Are you vaccinated?

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So why are you wearing a mask?

[Rob Carson]

Seek out the scientists and listen to their advice. Yeah, they were all. They wrong about everything. It's. It's. Honestly, this is why the, the leftist media, I don't call them the mainstream media because they're not mainstream anymore. Nobody watches them. But I just call it the leftist media. The propagandists who just spew talking points of the Democrat Party and why even have a First Amendment? It is just so utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly ridiculous. Here's the President, by the way, yesterday, responding to Fauci pleading the fifth 111 times, I think the president was much more deliberate. It's like the deliberate avoidance of damage to the civilian Infrastructure in Iran. I would have taken my glasses, gloves off with this son of a guy.

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Mr. President, thank you. Dr. Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment more than 100 times today. Senator Rand Paul said he's going to hold a vote on holding him in contempt of Congress. Do you think Dr. Fauci should face repercussions for this?

[Show Announcer]

Well, I watched the whole thing today, but more importantly, I was a part of the whole Fauci. I inherited Fauci. He was here from the.

[Rob Carson]

Now pay attention to this, because this is true. Because he could have just followed Fauci's mandates and mandated them nationwide, but he did 1980.

[Show Announcer]

So I had him for a period of time, and I disagreed with him on a lot. I would have had to close down the whole country if I listened to him. I went the Federalist way, which is basically let the governors decide. Generally speaking, the Republican governors did very well. The Democrat governors did not very well.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, their states were a crap show compared to Republican states where schools were left open and stuff.

[Show Announcer]

But Fauci wanted to have nobody wearing masks, if you remember, and then everybody had to wear five masks, as many masks as you could get. I mean, made a lot of mistakes.

[Rob Carson]

And then he went to a Nationals game where there were nobody in the stands and sat there and didn't have a mask. And that says to me, like, you know, with the Newsom, when he went to a 50th birthday party at the whatever, French Laundry, that they didn't believe it was deadly. They were just doing it during an election year to destroy Trump's economy.

[Show Announcer]

Duh. And he wasn't a big factor for me. He was a very big factor for Biden. And if you remember, even though we were sort of prime time in terms of that whole disaster of COVID far, people died fewer in the Trump administration than in the Biden administration.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. But we don't really know how many people died because they. They made up the COVID death on many death certificates, as I mentioned yesterday, with a friend of my sisters who died of dementia, and they put on the death certificate Covid, even though he tested negative for Covid before he died. It was all bullcrap. They were. There was money changing hands, by the way, in case you wondered. Carl Higby. I gotta play Carl Higby. Carl Higby just owned it yesterday, man. Higby is awesome. He's on Newsmax. He's a US War hero. He's a badass mother bleeper. And he had this to say about. And Nobody else has picked this up. Nobody else has picked this up. I want you to listen to Carl Higby with regard to the Fifth Amendment yesterday and. And Anthony Fauci. He should be in a lot of trouble, and I'm hoping there are people in Capitol Hill who are listening.

And the left whines about all the pardons of the J6ers got all the time.

[Michael Charbonne]

Okay.

[Rob Carson]

Fauci's was given by an auto pen. That was a joke. But I have a sneaking suspicion that this pardon doesn't even hold up.

And I'm not a lawyer, but apparently

I can read better than the entire doj because also in Predict versus the United States, quote, it's asserted, besides that the pardon is void as being outside the power of the President under the Constitution of the United States because it was issued before an accusation or conviction.

Yes, he was pardoned for everything, even though he was accused of nothing or

admission of an offense. This is insistent and precluded by the constitutional provision which only gives the power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States. Fauci hadn't done anything like. How am I the first guy to figure this out?

Yeah, you got to know what you did before you can pardon somebody for doing it. You can't just do it carte blanche. That's just brilliant. That's just brilliant. And here is Carl Higby, by the way. I'll just go ahead and say he doesn't have a law degree, but I. I think I might want him as

AG If I was Attorney General. Just going to spitball this one here as my resume, I would drop the hammer. Not only for lying to Congress, but also for killing people for malpractice, accepting illegal gifts, and insurrection. As Joni Ernst kindly noted today, Dr.

[Commercial Voice]

Burke said you all were trying to trap the president into having no other options.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, true.

[Commercial Voice]

She wrote your plan was to, quote, block any of the president's escape routes, so, quote, he'd have no choice but to agree to our flatten the curve measures.

[Rob Carson]

Yep. It was all to destroy the economy. Here is Carl Higby. He went to school board meetings to protest maths and. And kids not being able to learn in person.

The cuts to funding, to the firing of federal workers, to the demonization of their motivations.

It's undermining the very Senator Kim yesterday.

Nature of the work of governance. You know, these cuts. Cuts to HHS funding, to NIH funding.

Okay, I'm gonna have to do this on the other side of the rig. Yesterday, the Democrats. All they did was say that Fauci was fine. Everything he did was fine, despite the death. And then asked for more funding for the agencies that made our kids unhealthier than they've ever been. 10 year olds with type 2 diabetes allowed all red dye number 4, allowed the the food pyramid to be completely upside down, destroyed the health of Americans in general. Send them more money. Yeah, that's what they said yesterday. Honestly. So done. Michael Charbonne from Canada joins us next. Don't go anywhere. This isn't the end of a fight. It's the start of one. Lioness, the critically acclaimed original series from Taylor Sheridan, returns August 2nd only on Paramount. It's the new season. Hidden networks, foreign operatives and personal betrayals collide while Joe walks the line between duty and family. Don't miss Lioness. Starring Zoe Saldana, Michael Kelly. With Morgan Freeman and Nicole Kidman. Streaming August 2nd only on Paramount.

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[Rob Carson]

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[Michael Charbonne]

Go.

[Rob Carson]

It's a beauty way to go. You know, I kind of wonder if I have actually caused an increase in downloads of that song on Spotify, whatnot, because you haven't heard it generally, like since 1984 when Bob and Doug McKenzie, one of the greater exports from the country of Canada, appeared on the scene. Welcome to the Rob Carson Show. Michael Sharbon, host of the Sharbon Report. How are you on this glorious Thursday?

[Michael Charbonne]

Rob, it's an honor to be with you and your nationally syndicated radio listeners, as well as streaming live on the Newsmax app on the great Rob Carson's show. Just a note to your Spotify comment. Yeah, Spotify considers that opening music a problem, so they don't like to air it. So I have to cut the Rob Carson show, which I put on Spotify after the musical interlude, because they think it's a copyright infringement.

[Rob Carson]

What? Really?

Well, that's just a tragedy. That is just a tragedy.

[Michael Charbonne]

You can't listen to Bob and Doug and Botswana.

[Rob Carson]

That is sad. That is just sad because they were great. Although it's interesting, you ever watch, you know, you think there's a great movie for when you watched it in high school and then you see it later in life and you go, oh, my God, you've got to be kidding me. My wife, she, my ex wife now, she thought that Strange Brew, Bob and Dougs MacKenzie's, was the greatest movie ever. And then we watched it like, you know, after about 10 years of marriage, and she still thought it was pretty funny. And I went, oh, my God, are you kidding me? It's terrible.

[Michael Charbonne]

Yeah. The revelations of looking back. I got some news for you, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

Please. That's what you're here for. Go ahead.

[Michael Charbonne]

I'm telling you. Thousands, hundreds of thousands of Iranians living in Canada, Guess who they support, Rob?

[Rob Carson]

I guess they're supporting Donald Trump in Iran.

[Michael Charbonne]

Yes. And you know why? Because they realize that they're going to be liberated. All these Iranians who came here as refugees, came here as legals, legal immigrants. And I'm now assimilating into Canada are standing up and saying, we are Canadian,

[Rob Carson]

but I love it.

[Michael Charbonne]

We support our Iranian people who are under strife and we support Donald Trump. And guess what? Your media is not covering it. I wonder why.

[Rob Carson]

Well, because it was worldwide. The protest the day that the Ayatollah was killed, the first day of the operation Epic Fury. The Ayatollah was killed and our Congress, members of our Congress said it was a disaster. And they have been cheering for Iran ever since. There were dozens and dozens of millions of people dancing in the streets of the possibility of a free Iran for the first time in 47 years. Our Democrat Party is so disgusting and evil, they can't even celebrate when a generation of women will be liberated, no longer beaten or murdered for showing their hair. It is really thoroughly disgusting. And I gotta tell you, that's some good news coming out of Canada. That makes me very proud, Michael. It really does.

[Michael Charbonne]

Well, I've got to tell you I've spoken to some of these people because I know them personally. They've had communications with family back home. They believe close to 80,000 people were assassinated. They believe that they were all put in mass graves. They don't have guns, they can't stand up for themselves. So the irgc, a military backed junta, is what is running Iran. And that, that is the whole reason why Donald Trump is going in there and bombing it. Because as he destroys their infrastructure, they can't pay the irgc. And that is the hopeful time at which the Iranian people will gather up all themselves and overthrow the government.

[Rob Carson]

But, well, let's just see this. It's very hard. It's very hard when you have a population that is disarmed to actually to mount a fight. And that's what the tragedy of this is. They couldn't commit something like this in the United States of America because of my hillbillies, homeboys and Hebrews are very well armed. And this is why the left likes this. I'm hoping, and I really do. Michael, at the very beginning, I said, at the beginning of the Trump administration, I said that freedom was going to encircle the globe. People were going to throw off the chains of tyranny. It's happened in Central and South America en masse. It's beginning to happen in Europe, it already has in Poland and other areas. And I also predicted that the Iranian people would be free. And shame on the Democrats and the naysayers who only want Iran. They want to keep Iran in bondage and ruled by Islamists because Donald Trump is the man who would free them. And it's so thoroughly disgusting. When the party happens, I'm gonna be dancing my ass off in the streets with my Persian brothers and sisters. And you people who are against Donald Trump, y' all can stay home.

[Michael Charbonne]

You know what? As an outside observer, when I see the very lean coverage of what Fauci has done, television networks in the United States, not even putting your president's speech on television, and then this little nugget here of all these Canadians who are standing up for Donald Trump because of what he's doing to save Iran, it really speaks to the problem that your media has. God bless Newsmax and Fox and a bunch of others who actually stand up in contrary to, to the large media group. Because I'm telling you, the more you see this, the more you become afraid of Big Brother because certain things are not being mentioned. And I'm telling you, it's getting to be a little scary. Thank goodness. Final point that the Democrats have purged their own party with this whole socialism business. I just wish that youth would come and smell the roses and realize what they're being sold.

[Rob Carson]

Well, they're going to get a spanking. We are going to. The adults in the room are going to give us spanking. I'm a member of what they call Generation X. We haven't had a president yet.

[Michael Charbonne]

Yet.

[Rob Carson]

We have not had a Gen X president yet. And we're ready to kick some rear end and these children are going to get a spanking. But I'm going to ask you this. You know that Covid came from a lab in China, was bought and paid for by Tony Fauci, the NIAID and all the asundry organizations. Why aren't you pissed about it? Because it destroyed your economy too. It ruined lives. It took lives in Canada. Millions of people. I don't know how many millions there are. Hundreds of thousands of people in Canada died. Schools closed, businesses closed. All of that. Don't you suppose there should be an outcry around the world maybe looking at the United States and Anthony Fauci is the cause of this?

[Michael Charbonne]

When America sneezes, Canada catches a cold. And right now our wonderful liberal government has more than enough problems just trying to manage an economy that's in the dump. Unemployment, housing, all the problems. The last thing they need to do is mixing another problem that looks at them. And don't forget this was during Katy Perry's boyfriend's reign. So this is.

[Rob Carson]

Are you sure? Are you sure he's not her girlfriend?

[Michael Charbonne]

I'll give him that much credit. I'll give him that much credit.

[Rob Carson]

Okay.

[Michael Charbonne]

The one thing that Donald Trump has done for some Canadians, if he's made us more Canadian because. Because we lacked patriotism for the longest time. And there are Canadians now that see the value of patriotism and standing up for your country and that's because of you guys. And that's a good thing.

[Rob Carson]

Hell yeah. And I'll tell you that I believe that patriotism is rising in this country despite the left. They will be beaten down. I did notice. You know, we got a lot of tariff pain in Canada. I want to get to that. On the other side of the break. A lot of Canadians don't have a lot of faith in your limp wristed socialist or whatever the hell prime minister you have. Carney. We'll get to that. On the other side of the break.

[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

Break.

[Rob Carson]

Let's take a break and come back more with Michael Chavon at Michael A. Charbonne on x By the way, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

So why does he need a party? There's a million dead Americans. And we just want to know what the doctor did and why. He told us he'd tell us.

[Anthony Fauci]

If there are oversight hearings, I absolutely will cooperate fully and testify before the Congress. Congress have asked. You may not know, but I've testified before the Congress a few hundred times.

[Show Announcer]

Okay.

[Anthony Fauci]

Over the last 40 years or so. So I have no trouble testifying. We can defend and explain and stand by everything that we've said. So I have nothing to.

[Rob Carson]

You know, they say. You know, you know, they say if you. If it quacks like a duck, it's a genocidal maniac. Isn't that the expression of Michael Charbon of the Charbonne Report?

[Michael Charbonne]

Yeah. We would hit it with a transport truck and then we would cook it. So I'm sorry, brother.

[Rob Carson]

I swear to God, I. I'm not going to forget this chapter in history. I had two children whose academic careers were destroyed. My daughter. After her freshman first semester, school was canceled. There was no alternative. And she went from December through the following August with no school at all. Then they did hybrid learning three days a week online. Then they did hybrid learning where she would go to school and then some offline. Then for the next year, year and a half, they wore freaking masks. So I'm. And then my son's college career, all of the fun that he could have had in college. Two years, everything was closed in town. None of the bars, none of the fraternities were able to have anything.

[Michael Charbonne]

Nothing.

[Rob Carson]

And I want figurative blood for all of that nonsense.

[Michael Charbonne]

Yeah. I was a flourishing live sports network producer.

[Rob Carson]

Oh yeah.

[Michael Charbonne]

And when they stopped all the sports, I basically lost my business. I lost everything that. That I had established because there was nothing happening. And you look at the over. I mean, as far as many Canadians fell was. Covid was a really bad flu that affected people who already had existing conditions and were over a certain age, which were vulnerable. But the way an attack by which that it was approached, it was so detrimental not to, not only to our economy, but as we've seen now there are some people have lasting effects as a result of having to take the inoculations and still got Covid. I got the three shots and I. Oh, dear God, three times.

[Rob Carson]

I did not get the stupid, stupid, stupid vaccine. Sorry. It was stupid. I know you couldn't work. It's ridiculous. It's utterly. And look at. I got. Okay, check this Out Ron Johnson. Here's Ron Johnson. This is absolute. There's true data here. Flu, flu vaccines in 36 years had 243,000 adverse effects. 2700 deaths, 77 deaths per year. Tylenol around for 57 years. 747 deaths per year. Desevenere, 69 months, 546 deaths per year. COVID 19 the vaccine. 68 months, 6922 deaths per year. And they mandated it. I got. My son has a best friend, he moves out right out of college to Colorado. Gonna spend the rest of his life hiking and all this. Has massive, massive heart problems, mitocarditis and whatnot and cannot hike and will never be able to achieve anything physically the rest of his life like he wanted to. And I am not letting this go.

[Michael Charbonne]

Michael, this is, this is the largest scandal that I think the media, left wing media, give it credit. And you playing that one clip of Fauci saying that he would appear and then having him being embarrassed. I, I wish you would have went there. You would have, you would have asked those questions, not what color his tie is. I think your questioning would have been, would have been a bit more poignant, but would have shown the ridiculousness of this repetitive answer, which I really wonder when you're being subpoenaed by a court in the United States, if he can continually make that statement when something which would be a realistic answer were not put him in any kind of legal problem.

[Rob Carson]

Well, Michael can do that. Michael, Carl Higby. I don't know if you heard earlier, Carl Higby brought up the fact that you cannot be pardoned for something you've not been accused of. So he had never been accused of anything. And this was actually part of the law. And I'm hoping that Todd Blanche will wake the hell up and pay attention. You cannot pardon someone blank pardon when they haven't been accused of anything. Because that's ridiculous. You could say without knowing that, you know, Ted Bundy killed all those girls, you could just pardon him. It is utterly, utterly ridiculous and unthinkable and I'm hoping that somebody does something about it. I hope he dies poor, miserable and shamed. He doesn't have any shame. But I think the next step is class lawsuits by Americans who lost loved ones and their livelihood. Like you, bro, you should. You have grounds for a lawsuit. Let's move on to the tariff thing. 43% of Canadians do not have faith in your prime minister to fight Donald Trump on tariffs.

[Michael Charbonne]

Yep. The unfortunate reasoning is, although I think Mark Carney has taken a more civilized approach and doesn't want to have a tit for tat in the, in the social media bounds. I don't think Mark Carney has necessarily asserted himself to the extent that some Canadians feel he should. I unfortunately, you know why?

[Rob Carson]

You know why there's a word for him. It's a, it's a slang word for kitty cat. That's why. Thank you.

[Michael Charbonne]

Don't forget, when you look, when you look at the risk factor of both, Mark Carney was able to entice people from the opposition part. Oh, you're

[Rob Carson]

was it Friskies?

[Michael Charbonne]

Carney has a majority government, so he's good for three years. Donald Trump has the midterms coming in November, so he's got to get himself assertive. So he's got to look strong. The problem is that 46% of Americans think that costs have gone up considerably and many of them feel that the way Canada has been treated is unfair. Why don't we just call a truce and say, okay, let's just call it free trade. We would both profit and call it.

[Rob Carson]

We're, I think we're going to get there when we, when we retain both houses and increase the leads in both and it's going to happen. I'm right about these things. Michael Sharbone, thank you so much for being on the show. My, my brother. Tell everybody where they can find your glorious presence online.

[Michael Charbonne]

Rob, it's always a pleasure to watch and to listen to you. You can find Michael charbonne on the charbonreport.com tick tock, LinkedIn to social, Spotify, Facebook and on X and probably at a pet store near you with Rob Clarkson moniker.

[Rob Carson]

And today's in today's Jarbone report brought to you by Fancy Feast. Take care, brother. We'll talk soon. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Oh, metallica.

[Show Announcer]

Come on.

[Rob Carson]

Come on. Sounds good. Believe it or not, this is music that I listen to to calm down. Anyway, I mentioned earlier Carlo Higby noticed that you cannot be pardoned. According to the statute written for pardoning, you cannot pardon people for acts you've not been accused of. And so I'm hoping someone listening will, will bring that up. But I also mentioned to Carl Higbee as a concerned father during COVID and his were having their lives destroyed in school and all of this and he appeared before school board and he was responding yesterday to Senator Kim who defended Fauci and said we need to spend more on Agencies like Fauci's that cause so much death and destruction makes a lot of sense. Here's the continuation of that sound bite

to the grants cuts, to the researchers doing the critical work to find cures and medicines. These firing, these cuts, they're creating a chilling effect.

Yeah, the, the, the CDC and the HHS and all that made up us more unhealthy than we've ever been. We have at every grocery store in America at least a half a dozen three wheel carts. Now, for people who are too fat to ride around the grocery store and put those, you know, those hot Cheetos in the basket in the front there. And then you got kids with type 2 diabetes, and they've allowed poison in our food, seed oils and dyes and garbage in our food. We're the most unhealthy we've been ever. Life expectancy literally dropped. And this Jack Weed wants to fund more of it.

Thank you for nothing, Kim, by the way. And the attacks. You mean people like me being pissed off because people like you were masking our kids in schools? Yeah, I was. Look, I was escorted out of school board meetings because you.

You got to have some serious co owners to escort Carl Higbee anywhere.

People were offended by the stuff that I was saying that we turned out to be right about. We were right and the experts were wrong.

Boom.

You guys are all wrong. And I got news for you, pal. Those attacks, perfectly legal under New York Times versus Sullivan. I'm still considering legal action against that school board. You see right there?

[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

Do it.

[Rob Carson]

Where it says debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, wide open. And then it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials. Yes, I can give you the finger, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Oh, baby. You want to hear his mic drop?

[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

Drop.

[Rob Carson]

Here is Carl Higby's. He. His microphone, by the way, is about 8ft long, weighs 400 pounds, and he carries it on his shoulder just like this, like one of the logs that he. He cuts for his. His. The barn that he built. I mean, I'm not joking either. Here he is talking about what our Attorney General should do.

You put in the military while pushing out people with scientific and religious concerns against the vax that have now been all proven right. Great hearing, though. Now put somebody in jail or shut up.

[Anthony Fauci]

Boom.

[Rob Carson]

Carl Hickman. You got to watch Carl Higby on Newsmax, baby. I'm telling you. Higby Finnerty, Schmidt all of them on Newsmax. I know you.

[Michael Charbonne]

Maybe.

[Rob Carson]

Maybe you're just discovering Newsmax. Whatever. There's a lot of networks out there. There's only one network that has cajones like that guy has. Even the women have cajones on Newsmax, dear. Goddamn it. It's not because they're girls like Dylan Mulvaney. It's just they're badass. You got to download the Newsmax app. Get a Newsmax plus membership. That's all there is. I'm doing my show from Newsmax headquarters in Washington, D.C. our number two of the show coming up, Brigitte Gabriel. Coming up. Don't go anywhere.

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[Guest Caller / Audience Member]

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[Rob Carson]

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