The Middle East Peace Deal No One Saw Coming!

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show — "The Middle East Peace Deal No One Saw Coming!"

Date: October 9, 2025
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Key Guests: Donald Trump, Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt, Mike Lawler

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Overview

This energetic, comedic, and politically-charged episode centers on breaking news: a surprising Middle East peace deal brokered by Donald Trump, leading to the release of Hamas-held hostages and stirring hopes for broader peace. Rob Carson, channeling sharp, irreverent commentary, blends news, satire, and interviews—especially with key players like ex-President Trump and retired Brig. Gen. Blaine Holt—to discuss the deal’s ramifications for the region, the U.S., and global politics. The show also covers U.S. border policy, Democratic Party struggles, and domestic unrest, all with Carson’s signature blend of critique and parody.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. U.S. Border Success and Media Reluctance

• Carson highlights NBC News’s reluctant reporting on drastically reduced border crossings under Trump’s policies, noting a shift from "thousands a day" to about "20 migrants a day" at key Texas locations ([00:22–01:27]).
• Quote: "NBC News actually recording the facts... It's like they're trying to revitalize their journalistic credibility..." — Rob Carson ([01:28]).

2. Democrats in Political Turmoil

• Carson points to recent polling and controversies (e.g., candidate Jay Jones’s violent rhetoric) as evidence of Democratic struggles at both state and national level.
• He asserts the Democratic party is "in a tailspin into hell" ([02:01–03:25]).
• Quote: "If they think they're going to win the midterms because it's the midterms with how bat guano crazy they are... Good luck with that." — Rob Carson ([02:32]).

3. Introducing the Unexpected Middle East Peace Deal

• Carson frames the deal as the "possibility of peace in the Middle East for the first time in millennia," led by Trump ([03:45–04:15]).
• Clarifies release of hostages as "step one," with the larger peace framework potentially imminent ([05:25]).
• Quote: "Donald Trump’s negotiated release of the hostages... If Hamas decides to screw around, Donald Trump's basically saying, go ahead, make my day." — Rob Carson ([05:21]).

4. Trump Unpacks Strategy and Accolades

• Trump, via interview clips, credits a diverse coalition: advisors like Jared Kushner, Marco Rubio, and "the world coming together" ([06:33–07:25]).
• Trump emphasizes the use of "tariffs" and economic leverage in negotiations—contrary to conventional diplomacy ([09:47–11:36]).
• Quote: "What the tariffs have brought peace to the world. I’m telling you, they brought peace to the world." — Donald Trump ([09:59]).

5. The Tariff Tactic for Peace

• Carson and Trump discuss tariffs as a form of "economic deterrence," not just a trade tool—impacting peace deals from India–Pakistan to Middle East agreements ([10:20–11:36]).
• Quote: "If you want to be in the get along gang, you might want to [cooperate]... Kind of nice when Superman comes." — Rob Carson ([10:20]).

6. Blaine Holt (Brigadier General, Ret.) Weighs In

• Holt explains deal structure: release hostages first, then leverage is lost for Hamas.
• Arab states, via Kushner diplomacy, have "cut off Hamas—no more weapons, no more money," and even other Gaza factions are turning on Hamas ([23:35–24:16]).
• Holt credits the military as "deterrent," but underscores commerce-diplomacy as Trump’s unique approach ([24:45–26:32]).
• Quote: "Countries that trade together and are tied together by commerce have a better chance of actually being peaceful neighbors." — Blaine Holt ([25:59]).

7. Global Media’s Reluctant Acknowledgment

• Carson and Holt note even BBC and NBC are now giving Trump credit, a shocking turnaround in mainstream press coverage ([25:25–25:43]).
• Quote: "BBC, which hates President Trump greatly, actually credited him this peace deal and the ceasefire..." — Blaine Holt ([24:51]).

8. Unpacking U.S. Domestic Turmoil: Antifa, Insurrection, and Democratic Rhetoric

• Carson and Holt lampoon Democratic leaders over law and order, government shutdown, and their aggressive but empty rhetoric (especially J.B. Pritzker) ([29:24–30:26]).
• Discuss Esper Act/Insurrection Act thresholds and readiness against domestic unrest ([31:19–32:21]).
• Quote: "He’s absolutely... got his lawyers engaged on the proper legal thresholds that would be crossed for the Insurrection Act." — Blaine Holt ([31:19]).

9. Israel’s Complicated Reaction and Next Steps

• Holt warns all Middle East ceasefires are "messy," with Netanyahu’s silence possibly indicating hesitance ([36:04–36:22]).
• Trump says new reality has Iran (and perhaps Lebanon and Iraq) contemplating alignment with the Abraham Accords ([34:12–36:04]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trump’s leverage:
  "He told basically India and Pakistan, you either figure things out or I'm going to tariff the crap out of both of you, and then you won't be able to fund your wars..." — Rob Carson ([11:07])

• On media shifts:
  "Here's how you know that President Trump is doing well—the BBC, which hates President Trump greatly, actually credited him [for] this peace deal..." — Blaine Holt ([24:51])

• On the Dems:
  "The Democrat Party is on a tailspin into hell." — Rob Carson ([03:25])

• On Democratic infighting:
  "Senator Schumer is nervous as a pregnant nun about losing his re-election to the socialist wing of his party." — Sen. John Kennedy ([17:04])

• On Antifa and law order:
  "He's doing the same thing. He's going after the money." — Rob Carson ([28:36]) "The corrupt politicians are... giving the President the ability to invoke the Insurrection Act." — Blaine Holt ([28:46])

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Key Timestamps

• [00:22–01:27]: NBC News and border crisis reality check
• [03:45–06:33]: Carson introduces the Middle East peace deal and Trump interview preview
• [06:33–08:13]: Trump on coalition and negotiation tactics
• [09:47–11:36]: Trump details tariff strategy and peace dividends
• [23:35–24:45]: Brig. Gen. Holt lays out the phased hostages-for-peace approach
• [25:25–26:32]: Media acknowledgment; commerce replaces old diplomacy
• [31:19–32:21]: Antifa, Insurrection Act, and domestic unrest
• [34:12–36:04]: Iran, Abraham Accords expansion, and Israel’s internal struggles

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Tone & Style

• Energetic, satirical, and irreverent—Carson’s comedic background is evident in his lampooning of both politicians and the media.
• Information-dense but always in plain (sometimes abrasive) language, with regular interruptions for humorous jabs at the left.
• Guests are given space to provide expertise, but always within the host’s comic, populist framing.

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Conclusion

This episode captures a seismic, surprising shift in Middle East politics—hostages released by Hamas, prospects of a larger peace deal, and Trump’s unorthodox style drawing praise from even his media critics. Carson and his guests position this as glaring evidence of the failure of old-guard diplomacy, Democratic leadership, and establishment media. Using humor, directness, and some hyperbole, the episode asserts a dramatic American comeback—for both border policy and global peace—while promising more to come as the story unfolds.

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Transcript

[Rob Carson]

Hold it. Now you are about to hear the.

[Mike Lawler]

Most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on.

[Donald Trump]

The World Wide Web.

[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson Show.

[NBC News Reporter]

New numbers showing the dramatic changes of border.

[Donald Trump]

We've got the most patrolled border we've ever had in history in my lifetime in the Border Patrol in Eagle Pass.

[NBC News Reporter]

Texas, during the Biden administration, more than 2,000 migrants crossed into the U.S. you.

[Rob Carson]

Thought I was going to talk about Middle east peace while I'm going to.

[NBC News Reporter]

In a single day? But now, under President Trump's policies, officers encounter just 20 migrants a day.

[Rob Carson]

Here. What?

[NBC News Reporter]

Tonight, DHS.

[Rob Carson]

This is NBC having to admit that Donald Trump has done a great job.

[NBC News Reporter]

Of the border, touting the lowest number of illegal border crossings since 1970. And Border Patrol Chief Mike Banks tells us they'll expand the 1 mile of defensive buoys on the Rio Grande.

[Rob Carson]

We've got about 500 miles identified across the entire Texas border. Where we're going to place these in the river.

[NBC News Reporter]

Is this the new wall?

[Rob Carson]

It's defense in depth.

[NBC News Reporter]

We were here two years ago where migrants used to carry children on their backs to get across this river and cut through this barbed wire to get to the United States. They would see hundreds, even thousands a day in this very spot. But today it's silent north and Del Rio. Border residents telling us they're thrilled crossings are down.

[Mike Lawler]

We want our community back normal.

[Rob Carson]

Well, that's NBC News, for God's. Oh, my God. NBC News actually recording the facts. It's like they, they're dead or something and they're trying to, I don't know, revitalize their journalistic credibility and maybe even their, I don't know, viewership. It's kind of wild in it, though, because I'm pretty sure that the Democrat Party said that wasn't possible unless we pass big legislation and all that and another border bill and everything. And even, even old Hakeem Jeffries, this just like weeks ago, said we need comprehensive border control. No, we don't because we already got it, you moron.

[Mike Lawler]

There is a significant increase in the number of people coming to the border.

[Rob Carson]

Sounds to most folks like a crisis.

[Mike Lawler]

Well, look, it's way down now. We've now gotten control, we're making progress.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

But it's not gonna evidence itself overnight.

[NBC News Reporter]

And she has been addressing the root causes of migration. We've actually seen some reductions in some of those numbers.

[Donald Trump]

Do you have plans to visit?

[Rob Carson]

That is Jen Psaki saying that. Oh, yeah, we, the border crossings were way up, but they're down a little bit. It kind of sounds what they're doing in, in places like CH, they defunded the police and crime went up like 2000% and it's come down 20% since then from going up 2000%. And they claim that some sort of victory now. It doesn't work that way. Doesn't work that way. Anyway, welcome to the show. Please come inside. A lot of stuff on the show today. I wanted to mention that and then I got some others. I want to get to this Middle east peace deal that's going on. And by the way, this is just basically to release the hostages. Now, this isn't a whole deal. This isn't the whole shebang is what you like to call it, because the shebang is coming. I'm going to tell you, if Hamas tries anything, they're going to go shebang big time. So we'll get to all of that as the, as the show progresses. But here, here's something kind of interesting. You know that Jay Jones guy who's running for AG in Virginia and he said he wanted to murder the, the House speaker in Virginia and his children and all that had these text messages. And then all the Democrats are saying, oh, you know, everybody talks about murdering people and blowing their heads off and killing their children. I mean, you know, hell, I mean, if I had a dollar for every time I've said I want to murder my opponent and kill their children and laugh about it. I mean, come on, I'd be rich. Well, it's a, it's beginning to have an effect. Jason Meares running as a Republican for AG of Virginia now ahead of Jay Jones 46 to 42, which means, by the way, he's really ahead by eight. So there you go. That's some kind of good news. And that's kind of good news. And then listen to this. Listen to this because, you know, the Democrats are saying that Donald Trump is going to get beaten the midterms because it's the midterms. That's the only reason. And then if I say why they're not going to, I've got 100 reasons. And most of them have to do with the Democrat Party being on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of everything and not learning anything for 20, 24. So there's that. If they think they're going to win the midterms because it's the midterms with how bat guano crazy they are. I mean, good luck with that. Good luck with that. CBS News confirms anti woke. Nope that's the wrong one. That's the wrong one. The one I'm trying to say is that when it comes to the, the race for governor in the state of, of New York, Kathy Hochul is now neck and neck with Elise Stefanik. With Elise Stefanik. And you know why that is? It's because Kathy Hochul decided to endorse Zoran Mandami. And when people find out that she voted and is endorsing Zoran Mandami, the race was, is within a point is with other point. So if some, if Zoran wins, it's going to really give the rest of the state and hopefully the Democrat Party well deserved colonoscopy with regard to supporting Democrats. So there you go. There's a couple pieces of good news. Couple pieces of good news with regarding to, you know, the races and everything that's going on in the country and the trajectory of the Democrat Party, which is a tailspin into hell. The Democrat Party is on a tailspin into hell. So there is, there is that. But we got to talk a little bit about this peace deal. I don't know if you knew this, but there's a real possibility of a peace in the Middle east for the first time in millennia. And this will be another opportunity for the Democrats to be proven completely wrong, the liberal media to be proven completely wrong because they've been completely wrong about everything. For about as long as Donald Trump's been around since he came down the escalator, they've been wrong about everything and they still act like they've been right about everything. But you see, they've been wrong about everything. So that's, do you understand? I'm explaining it very softly and gently for the Democrats or people who went to a major university in the last decade or so. But, but it looks like there's a possibility of some peace in the Middle East. Donald Trump's negotiated release of the hostages over there. And then if Hamas decided decides to screw around, Donald Trump's basically saying, go ahead, make my day. Here is Donald Trump last night on the tele. No, he was on with, he was on with Hannity last night. He did a lengthy interview with Sean Hannity last night.

[Donald Trump]

Well, thank you very much, Sean. It's a great honor to be involved in it. We had some tremendous help, as you know, with everybody from Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner and Marco.

[Rob Carson]

And Marco.

[Donald Trump]

We had everybody, J.D. the whole, the whole group was just amazing.

[Rob Carson]

And I think next year when the pools are open, you should play a game called Marco Rubio instead of Marco Polo, because he's doing such a great job. Marco Rubio.

[Donald Trump]

Terry was, as you know, very instrumental in getting this done. We have a great military with great leadership. The whole world came together, to be honest, so many countries that you wouldn't have even thought of it. They, they came together. The world has come together around this deal. And that's something I would say that without. That wouldn't happen. So many countries that you wouldn't have thought of, have wired their best wishes and.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, and you know what he used to get people to come to the table.

[Donald Trump]

Tariffs, commitment to do whatever is necessary. The country's surrounding have all signed. I mean, they're all signed up. And it's been, it's been really.

[Rob Carson]

Remember when Donald Trump went over to Qatar and to Saudi Arabia and they, they said they were going to each give trillions of dollars to the United States to bring manufacturing there. That was part of this. That was part of this, by the.

[Donald Trump]

Way, an amazing period of time. And so great for Israel, so great for Muslims, for the Arab countries, and so great for this country, for the United States of America. And that we could be involved in, you know, making a deal like this happen. Because it was, you know, many years they talked about peace in the Middle East. This is more than Gaza. This is peace in the Middle East.

[Rob Carson]

Well, that's, that's pretty amazing stuff because I know a lot of people who, who didn't come back from the Middle east after signing up for the military after 9, 11, and then the ones that did come back have profound mental and physical injuries and stuff like that. So that's kind of good news. Right. But the Democrat Party, Hakeem Jeffries, came out and said, yeah, but, you know, if Joe Biden were the president yesterday, here's what he would have done. And he got this list down. He says, well, he would have put a lid on it at 9:00am and, and crapped his pants. So. So there's that. Here is the, the phone call yesterday that Howard Letnick got saying that the hostages, the hostages that Hamas has had for two years are going to be freed.

[Donald Trump]

They want to say something.

[Rob Carson]

Is that right?

[Mike Lawler]

President Trump, you have the best crowd in the world.

[Donald Trump]

What do you guys have to say to President Trump? Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

You did it.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Yeah. And by the way, if Kamala Harris were the president yesterday, she would have hit the box chardonnay at 9am and that's about all she would have done. That's about pretty much all she would have done so. There is. There is that. Here is Donald Trump explaining how he used the T word. And I know that many of you are terrified of the T word. You know, it was going to destroy the economy and you were standing on a building ledge and you were to jump to your death with your Wall Street Journal tucked under your arm. But, you see, the T word's pretty great for a lot of different reasons.

[Donald Trump]

Well, I develop relationships with people, and sometimes those relationships lead to great things. And in the case of many of the Arab nations, the wealthiest nations in the world, if you look, although with what we've done in the United States, I think we top everybody by a lot with the tariffs and all of that. But, you know, having the ability to deal with trade, having the ability to use tariffs to help me make a point. What the tariffs have brought peace to the world. I'm telling you, they brought peace to the world. And not only here, but with.

[Rob Carson]

Because he kind of took over the money supply. And. And if you want to be in the get along gang, you might want to do that. If your country doesn't want to, you know, descend into hell with their economies. It's kind of nice when Superman comes.

[Donald Trump]

Back in the other deals, you know, I've made seven peace deals where countries were, in many cases, 30, 31 years.

[Rob Carson]

How many peace deals did Joe Biden get? I don't know, but he started a war.

[Donald Trump]

135, 137 years they've been fighting and millions of people being killed. And I brought peace and I did it through. And not all cases, but probably. And at least five of the seven that we've done so far, it was through trade. But we're not going to deal with people that fight. We're not going to deal, and we're going to put tariffs on you.

[Rob Carson]

He told basically India in Pakistan, he said, you either figure things out or I'm going to tariff the crap out of both of you, and then you won't be able to fund your wars with each other. So you might as well just sign a peace deal now.

[Donald Trump]

We're not going to let you deal in the United States. We'll put tariffs on you.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[Donald Trump]

Without that, without the tariffs, I mean, far more than even the money that we're taking in, which is trillions of dollars, essentially. Trillions of dollars. Far much more importantly, it gives you a tremendous road to peace and the saving of millions of lives.

[Rob Carson]

Isn't that amazing? Saving lives instead of, you know, just relying on the military industrial complex to make billions of dollars and make sure there's a stream of young men being led off to war to be murdered and then replace their munitions and all of that after they're dead and then get more of it. Isn't that kind of weird how that changes that kind of crazy what happens when Superman comes back? By the way, Superman is having his meeting with the hall of Justice. I like to call that the, the cabinet meeting that's going on right now. I'm sure a lot of good stuff happening there. We got a lot of good news on this. We got a lot of bad news for Antifa because yesterday there was a big, a big meeting in the White House to talk about how the, the DOJ and the FBI are going to destroy Antifa, destroy all these left leaning organizations that have caused so much havoc. And so all of these idiots are going to have to actually get jobs or go to jail. We got all of that. We got. Blaine Holt's going to join us at the bottom of the hour to talk about the peace deal, among other things. So we got a banging show today. It's only going to get better. I wouldn't go anywhere if I were you. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Donald Trump]

The Rob Carson show podcast is everywhere. Go to newsmax.com listen for details.

[Rob Carson]

Rob Carson show on a already Thursday. I'm kind of excited. I got invited to a little, a little to do at the Kennedy center tonight. That's kind of cool. Yeah, I'm gonna be hanging out there with Megyn Kelly's gonna be there tonight and Pete Hegseth is gonna be there tonight. Yeah. And me, I'm going solo because, you know, I'm, I'm recently single so I'm gonna be going solo to things for a while. But anyway, I'm quite excited about it. I'm looking forward to it. It's quite a, it's quite a to do. I got a, I got a new suit and everything a couple weeks ago. It's, it's blue. Blue's a really big deal here in the, in the capital. I asked. It was black dye. I don't have a tuxedo because I've lost like £65 so it doesn't fit anymore. But I will send you some pictures. I will post them online if you want to. From tonight, hanging out with Pete Hegseth and Megan Kelly. It's going to be pretty, it's gonna be pretty cool. I'm pretty excited about it. It's pretty excited about the government shutdown still continues. I know you Heard Hakeem Jeffries kind of had a little argument yesterday in the hall. He looks like a complete moron. He's ineffectual. Minority leader here is. Here is Hakeem Jeffries in the, in the halls of Congress yesterday.

[Mike Lawler]

We got a one year extension. Yeah, we signed on right now.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Did you get permission from your boss?

[Mike Lawler]

Why don't we sign on right now? Did your boss, Donald Trump easily extend. Your boss, Donald Trump?

[Rob Carson]

Yes, he is.

[Mike Lawler]

No, he's not.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

He voted for the one thing.

[Rob Carson]

Correct.

[Mike Lawler]

I voted for a bill that gave the largest tax cut to Americans in history, including, by the way, the average New Yorker getting a $4,000 tax cut. Are you against that?

[Rob Carson]

Wasted. You're not going to talk.

[Mike Lawler]

You're not going to talk to Wasted. Talk to me and talk because you.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Don'T want to hear what I have to say.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, I'm listening.

[Mike Lawler]

Why don't you just keep your mouth shut?

[Rob Carson]

That is Mike Lawler talking to Hakeem Jeffries. And if he said that to me, if he said, how about you keep your mouth shut? I'd say lean into his ear and say, why don't you try to shut me up? That's what I would have done. That's what I would have done. But, you know, he's not me. But anyway, he came. Jeffries. The Democrats looking like complete morons yesterday. Here's Chuck Schumer decided to act like a tough guy. He looks like a gargoyle who has some sort of osteoporosis. I think he looks like a gargoyle. He does. He looks like a gargoyle with osteoporosis. And here he is acting like a tough guy yesterday, talking about Donald Trump.

[Mike Lawler]

So now we're in a government shutdown, and you may be asking yourself, how.

[Donald Trump]

The hell did we get here?

[Mike Lawler]

It's a disgrace. So Democrats have three words for this.

[Donald Trump]

No way.

[Rob Carson]

That's really badass. They have no. They are in the position to demand not a damn thing. Nothing. Because everything they did was screw up the country. Every metric of quality of life in America the last five years descended into the pits of hell with idiots like that in charge. And he's been in Congress since 1981, and he hasn't done anything but get osteoporosis and guard the cathedral. Here is Hakeem Jeffries being confronted yesterday because he gave. He's not going to give an endorsement to Zoran Mandami, the communist. But, but listen, if Zoran won, I'll bet you Democrats would suddenly say, oh, we were all for it. We're all for it and everything, but they don't want to take that shot right now because they're all a bunch of cowards. Here is. Here is Hakeem being addressed, asked about, why aren't you. Why aren't you endorsing the communist who hates the Jews ploy?

[Mike Lawler]

Because you're so afraid of Zoran Mandami, by the way. When are you endorsing them, by the way? Do you endorse him for mayor? First of all, are you going to endorse him for mayor? Listen, you're a complete and total embarrassment right now.

[Rob Carson]

Oh. Thinking you guys are the embarrassments. I mean, really, you want to go.

[Mike Lawler]

There because you don't want to answer the question, is this supposed to be a video for your fair election? You don't want to answer the question, do you support Zoro?

[Rob Carson]

And by the way, did you see his embarrassment? I honestly. The Democrat Party is a complete, complete embarrassment. This is John Kennedy yesterday talking. This is one of the best lines, by the way. Kennedy comes up with new stuff. I call him the King of colloquial. He was asked about Chuck Schumer, you know, mouthing off, saying, give a bleep, whatever the hell. Here he is talking about Chuck Schumer in only the way that John Kennedy could talk.

[Mike Lawler]

Senator Schumer is. He's nervous as a pregnant nun about losing his re election to the socialist wing of his party, led by Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez, which is in control now. We will eventually come out of this, this shutdown. Here's how I think it will happen.

[Donald Trump]

Chuck.

[Mike Lawler]

Senator Schumer.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Mike Lawler]

Chuck is. Is a smart man. No, he's been around a long time.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that's true.

[Donald Trump]

His.

[Mike Lawler]

His. His first car was a chariot. Washington is all he's ever known his entire life. He knows he's on shaky ground here in terms of policy. So here's how I think it'll end.

[Rob Carson]

Well, how's it going?

[Mike Lawler]

Schumer will go to six or eight of his colleagues and say, Democrats, of course, and say, I want you to vote to. To lift the shutdown now. He'll say, I can't vote with you. I've got to appear to be tough.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Mike Lawler]

I may even have to criticize you. But we nod.

[Rob Carson]

Nod, yes.

[Mike Lawler]

I'm trying to make the balloon wing of the party love me, but you bail it. Bail me out.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Yeah, I think. I think he's spot on, but, you know, he usually is. Schumer is nervous as a pregnant nun. I love that is just genius. I love that stuff. There's nobody on the Democrat Party who has a sense of humor or the intelligence to write a joke like that. He's amazing. I hear his new book is full of those jokes. By the way, we've got much more on this Middle east peace deal going on, the release of the Gaza, the hostages that the Hamas is holding. We're going to talk to Blaine Holt. He is a brigadier general, retired, gonna talk about that on the other side of the break. Get his perspective on that. Going to get into also this, this summit yesterday on Capitol Hill regarding Antifa and how Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and others are going to wipe Antifa from the face of the earth, not just in America. Antifa's run roughshod all over the country and still the media denies they even exist, even though they've left billions of dollars in damage, thousands of police officer injuries, even murders. And they wear a uniform and they're all over the world and yet CNN says they don't exist. So that's all coming up. But Blaine hold is next. Don't go anywhere. As the weather cools, I'm swapping in the pieces that actually get the job done. Warm, durable, built to last. And Quinsay delivers every time with wardrobe staples that'll carry you through the season. I call fall the great equalizer. You can put layers on. I actually like the way I look in clothes now. And Quinsay has the kind of fall stables you actually want to wear on. Repaint like 100% Mongolian cashmere from just $60. Classic fit. Denim always good. And real leather and wool outerwear that looks sharp and holds up. I've got my eye on their suede trucker jacket. It's perfect for layering and looks really casual. But put together by partnering directly with ethical factories and top artisans, Quinsay cuts out the middleman to deliver premium quality at half the cost of similar brands. Layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look. Go to quinsay.com Newsmax for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That's Q-U I N C E.com Newsmax free shipping and 365 day returns. Q U I N C.com Newsmax we're going to talk to Brigadier General Blaine hold in just one moment. I want to mention something. Buy gold and get free silver. Now, I don't know if you knew this, but gold was above $4,000 an ounce for the first time a couple days ago. It's on its way up. The trajectory is unbelievable. It's been this way for years and it's going even further. I can go on and on about that. But right now, for every 5,000 DOL purchased from Birch Gold Group this month in advance of Veterans Day, they will send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the Gasden and American flags. Look, if you're streaming right now, here it is. I've got it right in front of me. It is beautiful. It is. I'm going to carry this in my pocket. I am. I'm going to flip it like one of those private investigators, you know, in the. In the old timey movies. I'm going to keep it right there in my pocket wherever I go. It's going to be good luck. And it's also valuable. There it is. Look at that kind of. Look at that beautiful coin. It is solid silver. And silver, by the way, is up massively. Massively. Tom K says silver hit 50 bucks an ounce today. What? What this is. I don't even know what this weighs. But anyway, right now gold is up 40% since the beginning of this year. Burt's Gold can help you by converting it an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. You can do silver too if you want to. Plus they'll send you a free silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases. If you are current or former military, Birch Gold has a special offer for you. They are waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount with an A plus rating for the bbb. Tens of thousands of happy customers, many of which are my listeners. I encourage you to diversify your savings with gold. Text my name, Rob to 989-898 for a free info kit and claim your eligibility for free sold silver with qualifying purchase before the end of the month. There's the coin. Hi ho silver. Right there it is. You're gonna get one of these. It's heavy too. 50 bucks an ounce. $50 an ounce. Oh my goodness. Here's a guy who's worth his weight in gold. Okay, maybe not the best segue, but he is playing hold. How are you, sir?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

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[Rob Carson]

I'm gonna tell you, it's a really cool coin too, by the way. It is a really cool and I am gonna carry it around like I'm a private dick. I'm serious. Normally I'm just, you know, I'm that without the private in front of it. But anyway, a big day, right? I mean, we're kind of having a big day and a big week. Yesterday we heard that the Hamas has agreed to give up the hostages. Obviously, there are a lot of unanswered questions with regard to this possible peace deal in the Middle east with Israel and Hamas. What do you know?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Well, if phase one is agreed to, then let's just take it one at a time. Get the hostages. That's step one. And when we do phase one and we get it done, then Hamas really has no leverage left. So their. Their number one thing is to do whatever the heck they're told at that point, because they understand that if they don't, they're going to be plowed. And they also understand that the diplomacy that Arab Kushner conducted with the Arab states basically has them all aligned where they've cut off Hamas, no more weapons, no more money, no more life support. And also these fragmented other terror groups in Gaza have had it with Hamas as well, and so they're all turning on them. This is just wonderful. This is great news.

[Rob Carson]

This is interesting because Donald Trump is using the levers of tariffs, trade deals, money. He's doing this with all of these peace deals, Pakistan and in India. You know how he did that? He said, I'm going to tear up the crap out of your stuff so you won't be able to pay for your conflicts. I mean, this is America flexing, dude. This is America flex. This is Superman returning after a few years off. That's what's happening.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

And he's using the military in an. In an expert way. He's using the military as a big stick deterrent.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

You know, it helps. It helps the process that we have AUD down there and that massive air base, all those jets that have gone in there. It sends the right message while he's working out a demilitarized option. So it's like, look, if you don't like my diplomacy, maybe, maybe this will attract your attention down there. But here's how you know that President Trump is doing. Well, the BBC, which hates President Trump greatly, actually credited him this peace deal and the ceasefire, and they're praising him on BBC. Now, I know that the world is probably rotating in the other direction.

[Rob Carson]

Listen to this. Listen to. I think I've got it. Yeah, this is. Now, let me see it here. I thought I had Trump getting credit. I think this could be it. Hold on.

[Mike Lawler]

Made no mistake.

[Donald Trump]

It looks like President Trump has actually.

[Mike Lawler]

Pulled off something here that many presidents before him have failed to do.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, that is. That is on NBC, but obviously, if it's BB Sounds like a BBC reporter, whatever. But, yeah, they're starting to get it. Also, there was an NBC report today talking about the border being closed down. Wow.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Here's the difference. The presidents that came before President Trump led with the same old stupid, tired playbook left over from World War II, which was, we'll inundate you with our intelligence services. We'll promise you weapons deals if you play ball and the like. That's our statecraft. And instead, President Trump is, no, I'm about the Abraham Accords. Countries that trade together and are tied together by commerce have a better chance of actually being peaceful neighbors.

[Rob Carson]

And.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

And that's the direction he's taking. So that is remarkable.

[Rob Carson]

That is. I mean, that is absolutely remarkable when you think about it. And. And a lot of the times, you know, people will say that Donald Trump is a very. Well, he's obviously plain spoken, but there are a lot of things going on, man, in his mind. And all of this stuff you look at, like, even when he went over to Saudi Arabia and he went to Qatar, you thinking, okay, well, I know why he's over there. For a trade deal. Little did we know. Yeah, that was part of it, dude. This is part of it. I know.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

It's really good. So then you have to wonder, what kind of conversations is he having with Moscow and Beijing.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Not just on those wars and Taiwan, but what about the financial aspects of these things and avoiding a monetary system collapse? I think he's working on all those fronts because, listen, they created little. Little Easter egg time bombs all over this globe for him to defuse. So far, he's doing it. It doesn't mean he's gonna. He's gonna get it all done. But if you think about where we'd be with Comrade Harris at this point, dear Lord, I could. We'd be having this phone call with me being in Uruguay. That's where I'd be.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, well, you know, I mentioned earlier that if, you know, Joe Biden, by the way, if they hadn't discovered his brain was made of pudding, he'd be the president, you know, right now, and he'd be nine months into it. And I. And I was kind of fantasizing about what his schedule would have been yesterday. While Donald Trump was a peace, you know, achieving peace in the Middle East, Joe Bide Biden would have called a lid on his day at 9am and crapped his pants. I'm thinking that would be.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

I agree with everything you just said, except for the big insult to pudding. I, I don't think you should be doing it.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you don't want to insult the pudding. Especially that like the hot stack pack we used to have when we were kids in the lunch. Yeah, that's an insult. I apologize for that. But you know, we look at. Also, Donald Trump's doing the same damn thing, doing Antifa here in the United States. He's doing the same thing to antifa. He's going after the money. He's going after the money and he's going to go after all these NGOs, he's going to go after all these billionaires, these evil billionaires living in volcanoes around the world, like George Soros. He's doing the same thing. He's going after the money.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Yeah. And the corrupt politicians are taking the bait. They're running with their rhetoric. They're running right down the path to give the President the ability to invoke the Insurrection Act.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

You get more. Look at what Pritzker just said. If you want my people, you got to go through me. It's like, well, thank you for that. Appreciate that. That'll hold up in court.

[Rob Carson]

And by the way, I understand that that fat is a lot less dense than muscle, so it won't be a very difficult thing to go through. Sorry.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

That's very true.

[Rob Carson]

A lot about.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

He'll learn about cortisol management in prison, I'm guessing.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, he will. But, you know, it was really funny and he did that. He said, trump's going to go after me. And then he tried to do a flex. Did you see that? He tried to do some sort of flex of the camera.

[Donald Trump]

It's pathetic.

[Rob Carson]

It is really.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

It's just estimate that we, we, we, we could do better just selecting cabbage, Cabbages in pineapple.

[Rob Carson]

You. And he could be doing a lot better if he ate more cabbage. Let's, let's take a break. We got Brigadier, Brigadier General Blaine. Hold on the show, by the way. On the other side of the break, I want to talk about the Iran, you know, blowing up the nukes and what this had to do with, you know, this Middle Eastern peace deal. Uh, it is a master, uh, masterclass. All of that will continue in just a moment. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Let's start with the idea that this is a convicted felon. I mean, think about that. Who's threatening to jail Me, I gotta say, this guy's unhinged. He's insecure. He's a wannabe dictator. And there's one thing I really want to say to Donald Trump. If you come for my people, you come through me. So come and get me. Wow. There you go. That is J.B. titsler. Pritzler. Prickster. Gosh, I always screw that up. J.B. pritzker, the governor of Illinois. He wants to be the president. He's never going to be the president. Honestly, there's nothing likable about him. He's never accomplished anything. He was kicked out of his family business because he's such a failure, and he just happens to be the governor of Illinois because he paid his way into it. That's basically it. He's never going to be the president. He has a better chance of being a parade balloon at Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade than be. Well, which. It wouldn't be much of a stretch anyway. So that's J.B. pritzker talking tough. He's gonna be. He's gonna be taking down, what, how many? We're talking to Blaine Holt, by the way. Blaine Holt, Brigadier General, retired, Also the host of a dangerous intellectuals podcast, which you should check out. General, the National Guard moved into Chicago yesterday. What are your thoughts on that? And also the possibility of claiming some sort of an insurrection by. By Pritzker and by Brandon Johnson.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Well, since they're using lawfare on their side to blunt the President or to stop him, he's. He's absolutely. You can. You can bet, got his lawyers engaged on the proper legal thresholds that would be crossed for the Insurrection Act.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, and.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

And this is about so much more than just knocking out some petty crime. These cities now have become ungovernable. And when Pritzker goads the president and challenges him, I don't know who.

[Donald Trump]

Who's.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Who's stupid enough to do that. But, you know, the president doesn't drink, so he wouldn't say, hold my beer, but he would say, oh, hold my Diet Coke.

[Rob Carson]

But, you know, also, Pritzker is using. It's not a war of words. He's using words of war. J.B. pritzker and Brandon Johnson are violent rhetoric. General, if you. If your opponent. If your opponent was using that kind of language, what would that tell you, sir?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

It tells me about intent, and it tells me that he's communication. He's communicating with those in communion with him who are waiting for the word.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, that's exactly right. I would love to see the Insurance Insurrection Act. Used I would too. Because honestly, enough is enough. Bull crap, dude. I mean enough is enough is enough. And you know what's really amazing? You got, you had anchors on television saying that, oh, antifa, they haven't done anything compared to the Lost Boys, whatever the. But it's a joke. They've run rough shot over the country, caused billions of dollars worth of damage. They wear uniforms, they, they have a logo and it's a worldwide movement. My God. Are you out of your frigging mind?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Yeah, the apparatus. Well, it's like who is that moron Belchy got in front of a big Ali belching that exploded.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Instead and said mostly people, just mostly peaceful. Listen, it's the same thing that CNN is putting out right now. Well, you know. Oh, what did she say? She said that they are certainly more peaceful than the extreme white right wing groups. And it's like how many times are they going to go to the well on this? Throw red ants in a jar, throw black ants in a jar, put the lid on it, shake them up and see if we can't get everybody killing everybody. It is what they do.

[Rob Carson]

It is ridiculous. And at this point they honestly are easily dismissible. I have no time, I really have no time to debate abc, cbs, NBC, msnbc, cnn. They are ridiculously out of touch. They, they speak in nonsense, they've been wrong about everything. The only reason I talk about them is to deride them and make fun of them because they're laughable. And the great thing is though, General, is that we're winning on all fronts.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

We are winning on all fronts. And isn't it. Look, I'll, I will pull for the corporate body. Isn't it cool to be a teammate at Newsmax at this point?

[Rob Carson]

Hell yes. I want to play a sound bite from Donald Trump. Talk to Hannity last night about the Iran nuke deal.

[Donald Trump]

Well, Iran was about one month, maybe two months away from having a nuclear weapon. And if I allowed that to happen, this deal would not have been possible. Or if it was, it would have a tremendous cloud over it because you'd have a country with a nuclear weapon that was not obviously very friendly. And the power of nuclear weapons is something that we shouldn't even be talking about. It's so massive. And, and so by doing that we now have something where actually Iran and I and Iran and a number of people have been talking about a deal, but it's a very much different Iran. And frankly we've had a, we've had some very good conversations. And as you Saw they blessed the deal. They put out a few hours ago a statement that they agreed.

[Rob Carson]

You know, this is 3D chess, man, isn't it? Think about all the things that happened. Just. Dude, it's only. He's only been in office nine months and look what he's done. He's been setting up the pieces to get here.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Look, I love our dear friends in Israel, but the politics there are vicious, as you well know. And President Trump's maneuvers has absolutely boxed in the political risks in Israel right now. And the reason that's so important is we're looking to de. Escalate. We're looking to get to peace. We have a rising threat in Syria with hts. The president knows this and that's going to be the next challenge. But can you see Iran and Lebanon coming into the Abraham Accords? I can see that now. I can absolutely see that path. And if Iraq goes in there now you've got an isolated Syria, and here's why it's isolated, because he even asked for Turkey's Erdogan's help in crafting this deal. And Erdogan worked with Hamas. Everybody is marching to President Trump's leadership on this issue right now.

[Rob Carson]

Now, I believe you sent me this earlier. Israeli tanks near Netzerim, south of Gaza City fire shots at Palestinians trying to move north along the coast. Bibi is literally blowing up the deal. Is this happening or what's going on there? What is Netanyahu's role in this? Because I haven't heard anything from him.

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

I don't know yet. And we're going to have to watch that carefully. But, you know, all ceasefires, when you get them started, are mess if you're trying to complete military objectives. Maybe you didn't get the word, but the, the thing that has to happen now is the State Department is going to be all over the monitoring of this and get this baby across the line, because what do we want to see? We want to. This isn't about a President Trump victory. What this is about is those hostages getting back into the arms of their families and the remains going back to their families.

[Rob Carson]

Yes. And then we'll take the next steps. And if antifa or not Antifa Hamas, I might as well be the same thing. One line, one step over the line. You're done. Done. You're done. Blaine Holt, I appreciate you so much for being on the show today. Where can people listen to your Dangerous Intellectuals podcast?

[Brigadier General Blaine Holt]

Hey, come visit us at Danger Thinking on X. And then you could go to dangerous intellectuals.com for all of the platforms that you could go to to get it. And today I just released an op ed on China on Newsmax.com on the insiders page, the Irascible Disruptor.

[Rob Carson]

All right, brother, have a glorious weekend. God bless you. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Donald Trump]

Well, Gaza is going to be a peaceful, much safer place. Obviously, it's been blown to pieces and this is just not by Israel. This is over years and years and years. It's been heartache for many years. A lot of people say this is a deal for 3,000 years. So whether you say 500, because some people say 500 based on events, but other people say this is something historic for 3,000 years. Is nothing ever going to be bigger than this? And so Gaza, we believe, is going to be a much safer place and it's going to be a place that reconstruct and other countries in the area will help it reconstruct.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And once we get the hostages back, Hamas knows that we will have no restrictions on wiping them from the face of the freaking earth should they bleep with us. How's that sound? Yeah, so my deal is I, I would like Hamas to be wiped from the face of the earth. I, I'd like to see Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel get medieval on him. Wipe them all out. Kill them all. Hell, yeah. So there's a lot of, a lot of things to achieve. First and foremost, ceasefire Israeli hostages released. It's, you know, I was thinking this morning about the parents of some of the hostages who are just thrilled to get their children's remains. I mean, how low do you have to be in your life where you are eagerly awaiting your children's remains? That's all they can expect. That's the most that they can expect. I was talking to Brigitte Gabriel in texting. She's very, you know, concerned about Hamas and their ability to regroup and whatever. One step at a time, one step at a time. I'm not claiming there's going to be peace of the Middle east and all of that and, you know, declaring Kubaya and all that, but it is a step at a time. And when you look at it from a distance and you see all of the things that Donald Trump has already done, these nine months, these nine months of his presidency versus what could have been a drunk woman who drinks box Chardonnay and has the verbal acumen of a three year old, I'd say we're in a pretty good place. And the most positive thing is we're winning on all fronts and the left is being beaten back and they're trying to drag us into hell with them, but we're not going. So there you go. How's that sound? I think it sounds pretty good. First hour of the show is in the can. I'll leave that one alone. Second hour is right ahead. I promise. It can only get better. Actually, it can. It's. Yeah.

[Donald Trump]

Okay.

[Rob Carson]

Stick around.

[Donald Trump]

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[Rob Carson]

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