The Ring-Kissing Heard Around the World

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show

Episode: The Ring-Kissing Heard Around the World
Date: June 24, 2026
Host: Rob Carson
Notable Guests: John Fredericks, Fred Flights, KT McFarland
Podcast Theme: A humorous and insightful political talk show blending commentary, parody, and headline news.

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Episode Overview

In this lively and charged episode, Rob Carson tackles the latest in American politics, foreign affairs, and culture with his trademark humor and blunt commentary. The show's focal points include a deep dive into Maryland's gubernatorial rematch, the aftermath of recent New York primaries, chaos at the National Mall's reflecting pool, developments in Iran-U.S. relations, U.S. domestic energy issues, turmoil in the UK, and the perceived transformation of the Democratic Party. Special guests John Fredericks and Fred Flights provide insider analysis on national and international developments, while comedic musical parody and pointed rants keep the tone energetic and irreverent throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. State of Maryland - Political Turmoil

• Maryland Governor Race: Dan Cox (Republican) faces off again against Wes Moore, whom Carson dubs the "Fresh Prince of Bel Airhead."
• Infrastructure Collapse: Criticizes Moore's handling of the bridge collapse and escalating repair costs, calling Maryland governance a "damn shame" and highlighting a broader exodus from the state.
  • Quote: "Maryland governance are a bunch of friggin morons." (04:51, Rob Carson)
• Cultural Affection: Despite political disapproval, Rob expresses love for Maryland's culture and food, especially crab cakes and pit beef sandwiches.

2. Reflecting Pool Controversy & National Mall Protest

• Vandalism: Reports on repeated vandalism of the freshly repaired reflecting pool, involving slashed liners and fence destruction.
  • Investigative Note: The suspect is a Democrat donor with a history of activism and legal trouble, now raising money via GoFundMe.
• National Guard Response: Trump has deployed the National Guard, leading to partisan arguments about "authoritarianism" and safety in D.C.
  • Quote: "He brought down crime 60%. It's safe to live here, ya moron." (11:12, Rob Carson to caller)
  • Timestamps:
    • [07:30–09:56]: Details on reflecting pool vandalism and suspect’s background.
    • [10:07–11:17]: Clips ridiculing protests and defending National Guard presence.

3. Partisan Rifts & Left-Right Culture Wars

• Democrat Party Divisions: Major rift highlighted by recent New York elections, where more radical "Daycare 3" Democrats won over establishment figures.
  • Carson and guests predict these left-wing candidates cannot win general elections and see this as a sign of the Democrats' decline.
• Cultural Satire: Musical parody lampoons progressive Senate candidates' positions on gender and religion.
  • Quote: "He has real contempt for Christianity and his sexuality. He insists that six genders exist, says God's non-binary." (42:13, Rob Carson/Parody song)
  • Timestamps:
    • [41:19–42:47]: Song parody and commentary on progressive left.

4. Guest Segment: John Fredericks (Political Analyst)

• Reporting live from DC, Fredericks breaks major news on Trump’s policy maneuvers:
  • Housing Bill Standoff: Trump cancels a White House signing, conditioning it on Senate passage of the SAVE Act.
    • Democrats are "going crazy," and Speaker Mike Johnson tries to attach SAVE Act to budget reconciliation.
  • Senate Gambits: Parliamentarian roadblock to adding SAVE Act to reconciliation.
  • National State Fair: Preview of a patriotic event on the National Mall ("safest, cleanest city in America" thanks to Trump).
  • Quote: "[Trump] said he's not going to sign that or anything else until the Senate passes the SAVE Act." (16:14, John Fredericks)
  • Timestamps:
    • [15:23–19:41]: Political play-by-play from the Capitol, policy updates, and National Mall festivities.

5. Iran-US Relations, Middle East Negotiations

• Fred Flights Analysis:
  • Trump’s Iran policy marked by tough negotiations and strict skepticism of Iranian promises.
  • The Iranian regime is internally fractured, using public denials for domestic consumption but agreeing privately with U.S. negotiators.
  • KT McFarland’s Insight: U.S. is tracking Iranian funds via banks to ensure money goes to reconstruction, not militancy.
• Skepticism on Accountability:
  • Flights doubts the U.S. can truly control Iranian spending—money is fungible.
  • Quote: "It's hard to restrict what they spend their money on in their country. But...there has to be strings attached on where it goes." (28:49, Fred Flights)
• Military Power Shift:
  • Chuck DeVore highlights Trump's unprecedented military pressure vs. Iran compared to Reagan's measured force during the Iran-Iraq War.
• Peace & Revolt: Hope is placed in the Iranian people's capacity to reclaim their country in the absence of faith in the regime.
  • Quotes:
    • "Nothing the Iranians say publicly can be trusted." (24:50, Fred Flights)
    • "Iran has been destroyed...military, missiles, nuclear infrastructure significantly weaker than before. Trump accomplished a lot." (30:52, Fred Flights)
  • Timestamps:
    • [23:44–32:35]: Full segment covering Iran negotiation breakdown, banking controls, skepticism, and lessons from history.

6. UK Politics: The Labour Party Crisis

• Starmer’s Departure:
  • Rob and Fred Flights discuss the outgoing Labour leader Keir Starmer, label him "woke, obnoxious," and project difficulties ahead under Labour rule.
  • Immigration as Flashpoint:
    • Massive uncontrolled immigration and focus on speech policing are seen as exacerbating Britain's problems.
  • Farage Factor:
    • Discussion on Nigel Farage's potential push for an early election, but Fred views it as unlikely with Labour’s majority.
  • Quote: "The Labour Party is all of the things that he just said it was. And now he's no longer the Prime Minister." (34:28, Rob Carson)
  • Timestamps:
    • [34:04–37:41]: UK segment, Labour critique, immigration outrage, conservative disarray.

7. Democratic Party "Civil War" and Anti-Semitism

• Rising Progressives:
  • Guests and callers suggest moderate and Jewish Democrats are being "thrown out" as radical anti-Israel candidates rise.
  • Quote: "No, they're kicking the Jews out of the tent, dude." (38:58, Fred Flights)
• Historic Parallels:
  • Carson warns against the Democratic Party's embrace of socialism and anti-Semitism, likening it to pre-WWII Germany.
  • Quote: "Last time a party really leaned into socialism and anti-Semitism, it didn't end very well in Germany." (39:29, Rob Carson)

8. Humorous, Parodic, and Memorable Moments

• Sharp Satire:
  • Ribbing of progressive talking points on gender and religion.
  • Playful banter about Maryland’s crabs, the National State Fair, and fireworks-viewing parties.
  • Guest Shout-out:
    • "You are the only person who works harder than me and James Brown every single day, bro." (20:41, Rob Carson, to John Fredericks)
• Musical Parody:
  • Lampooning progressive Senate candidate Tyler Rico's complicated identity politics and religious stances.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Maryland Rant:
  • "Crab cakes are a gift from God. But Maryland governance are a bunch of friggin morons." — Rob Carson, 04:51
• Reflecting Pool Vandalism:
  • "It's sacred." — Rob Carson, 09:04
• National Guard Defense:
  • "It's not a political game. He brought down crime 60%. It's safe to live here, ya moron." — Rob Carson, 11:12
• Democratic Party Division:
  • "No, they're kicking the Jews out of the tent, dude." — Fred Flights, 38:58
• On Labour’s Leadership in the UK:
  • "Good riddance. Testimonious. Woke, Obnoxious. I'm so tired of hearing him." — Fred Flights, 34:45
• Iran Negotiations:
  • "Nothing the Iranians say publicly can be trusted." — Fred Flights, 24:50
• Satirical Parody Song:
  • “He insists that six genders exist, says God's non-binary… and that he isn't fond of Christianity. They must vote him down, they don't need this clown." — Rob Carson/Parody, 42:13–42:38
• Election Prognosis:
  • "We're going to destroy them in the midterms. Now we know who we're fighting. Now we know what we're up against and we will win." — Rob Carson, 43:40

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Section Timestamps for Quick Reference

• Maryland politics and personal stories: 02:05–06:34
• Reflecting pool vandalism/National Guard: 07:30–12:24
• John Fredericks on Congressional deals and events: 15:07–21:06
• Iran negotiation deep dive (Fred Flights & KT McFarland): 23:32–32:35
• Labour Party & UK politics: 34:04–37:41
• Democratic Party/radical policies/anti-Semitism: 38:04–40:07
• Parody song and progressive critique: 41:19–42:47
• Closing rally on upcoming elections: 42:59–43:55

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Summary in Original Tone

Rob Carson delivers a rollicking, high-energy episode blending political indignation, personal anecdotes, and razor-edged satire. Backed by guests who share his populist, patriotic perspective, Carson lambasts Democratic leadership in states like Maryland and at the national level, cheers on perceived conservative wins, and brands radical Democrats as out-of-touch—often with humor and musical parody. Foreign issues like Iran and British politics get tough, skeptical treatment, with warnings about trusting adversaries and frustrations with “woke” leadership abroad. Amidst the outlandish moments and cultural commentary, the episode ultimately aims to rally conservative listeners with the message that change is coming and that "patriots" are on the winning side.

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Transcript

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[Caller/Listener]

Hold it.

[Fred Flights]

Now

[Rob Carson (Host)]

you are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the worldwide web. This is the Rob Carson Show.

This is hour number two of the Rob Carson Show. We've got a lot to get to, including here who we got on the show. Next, Fred Flights is going to be joining us to talk about Iran and other stuff and, and, and, and in the state of Maryland, we're going to have a rematch. Dan Cox, Republican, is going to be running against the Fresh Prince of Bel Airhead, Wes Moore. And I think that Dan has learned much and I also think that Wes Moore has really bleeped the state up massively. And he is also a liar about his military service. He's a poser. He. For instance, this key bridge over the bay was knocked over by A barge or by a cargo ship and it fell down like a house of cards. And this MO, he, he said, oh yeah, well, we're billing $2 million. And he hired. Or $2 billion. And he hired this construction firm. It was up to $9 billion. And they fired the construction firm. And right now it's in limbo like the high speed rail in California while people flee the state because Maryland sucks. No, sorry, sorry Marylanders. I know you love your state, but the people who run it have made it suck. Nobody wants to retire in Maryland anymore. It's a damn shame because Maryland is a beautiful state. I traveled shore to shore, I traveled all over Maryland and I love it. I love it. I've caught crabs in Maryland more times than you could imagine. It's not what you think, Hunter. Anyway, I love me some Maryland. I love me some ballmer. I love me a pit beef sandwich. I love me, you know, one of those, those. I can't remember the name of the cake, but they make them on an island in Maryland. They're fantastic, you know, and crab cakes are a gift from God. But Maryland governance are a bunch of friggin morons. And the liberal Democrats in Maryland are proverbial frogs in boiling water. Boiling water as the state sucks. I mean honestly, drive across the bridge into Virginia because it's like going into Oz. Gleaming buildings, all of this. Maryland is the opposite of that and it's a real shame. Hopefully Dan Nice will be able to kick Wes Moore's rear end. He's going to join us later in the radio program. So that's what's coming up. I'm very, in case you didn't know, quite a. Enthusiastic about everything. And I think that it is. There is something happening in the country. I have many reasons in my life to be sad, but I've chosen not to be. I've chosen to embrace the joy. I've chosen to embrace this moment. I was talking to the streamers a few minutes ago. I, I didn't move here to dc. I was guided here. I believe that. And this isn't about me. I'm just a tool here for whatever is happening. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just an implement. I mean I. My wife calls me a tool, don't get me wrong, but I'm just an implement here. I am here to, to be. To bring this place to you. And, and, and great things are happening in the 250th anniversary of the country's birth, despite the vampires of the left screeching. And crying and trying to destroy the reflecting pool in front of the Lincoln Memorial. I mean, wow. And then screeching about everything. Everything. Because Donald Trump is this and that and that. No Kings temper tantrums and Elon Musk is a Nazi, burned down his dealerships and caterwauling left and right and whining about the open border being closed and whining about everything, everything, everything. You're on the losing end, Democrats. You are on the losing end, and you are descending into hell, and I ain't going to extend a hand to you. I'm done with y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Done, done, done. Yeah. I said with y'.

[Caller/Guest]

All.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I did.

I did.

I know. I'm Midwestern. I'm colloquial. So I can get away with that stuff. I can get away with that stuff. I'm not like Hillary Clinton talking about hot sauce and all of that and then going, you know, Barack Obama, you know, living in Hawaii and all of a sudden getting all, you know, brother, and everything I can say, which all. Because, you know, had my butt in the tractor seat for a while. All right. Oh, here we go.

[Caller/Guest]

This is.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

This is what the Democrats are doing. So they're redoing the. The. The reflecting pool on the National Mall. It's a glorious place, man. And, you know, I've been coming here for. Lived here 12 years now. I've been here another year, so 13 years. I never. It never loses its. Lester. I took a black woman to the Lincoln Memorial a couple weeks ago. She's lived in the United States since 1991. She never been. And I watched her ascend those stairs and stand before that statue of Abraham Lincoln and then go in and read the words of the Gettysburg Address with tears in her eyes. She came from Sierra Leone. She was a Democrat. She was someone who knocked on doors for Joe Biden and Barack Obama. And when she decided to become a Republican after Democrats online celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination, she said, that's it.

[John Fredericks]

I'm done.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I can't do this anymore. And she went into the open arms of Republican Party, and she was greeted with joy, like FIFA fans in cities around the country, from countries abroad, because Americans who are truly Americans and patriotic love other people and welcome them into the fold. You know, the Democrat Party did. They called her the N word. Even the white people did. Oh, they did all sorts of awful things to her. I've heard about it. We'll share someday. We'll have her on the air to talk about it. She's going to be a Force in the Republican Party in the state of Maryland. There you go. Jesse Waters on the. And it is happening despite Whoopi Goldberg saying otherwise. They're vandalizing the reflecting pool incident.

[News Reporter]

One June 9, a week after they started filling it with water. The report says someone slashed a 20 foot section of the liner overnight. Razor blade slashes. The New York Times described them as two 171 foot blade cuts.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

That's the New York Times.

[News Reporter]

They also ripped the fence tops off and threw them into the pool.

[Caller/Guest]

Wow.

[News Reporter]

Then June 19, a witness watched a

[Rob Carson (Host)]

man recorded I believe that's Juneteenth self

[News Reporter]

on his phone while ripping the liner with his bare hands. A Park Service employee told him to stop. He said they were, quote, awfully sensitive about the pool and kept going.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Yeah. Because it's sacred.

[News Reporter]

The National Guard had to physically stop him when they searched him. His hands and gloves were wet. He was charged with four counts.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

Turns out that suspect is the Olympian.

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

Who says he did nothing wrong.

[Olympian Suspect]

I didn't think I'd done anything wrong, so I had no reason to think I was going to be arrested. But I suggested we walk over toward the park police rather than waiting for them to come to us and went over and furnished my id and kind of before I knew it, I was being handcuffed and bye realized I was being arrested.

[News Reporter]

He's a longtime Democrat donor, gave money to Obama and ActBlue.

[John Fredericks]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

Arrested by Park Police once before, back in 96. And now he has a GoFundMe and a lawyer who just happened to have prosecuted Trump in the first impeachment.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

There you go. I'm sorry, who is on the hotline? Well, John, can he wait? Because I'm only going to give him two minutes before the break. So can he wait after the break?

[Caller/Guest]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Thank you. I appreciate that. Here is some of the idiot children. They're not running. I'm going to call the Democrat Daycare three. Those are the three who won in New York yesterday. It's a Democrat Daycare three is what we're going to call them. But here are some idiots down by the reflecting pool with no jobs cheering on the algae.

[KT McFarland]

She is doing good today, honey.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Give them a little shove. Just give them a little shove. And then run off in the other direction. Here is an Ms. Now guest. Some idiot saying that because Donald Trump has brought in the National Guard to protect the reflecting pool, kids can't splash around it anymore. Here's the thing. Kids could never splash around in it and never have.

[Caller/Guest]

I'm sorry for These National Guards who should be home with their families.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

No, no, you're not. Because you didn't want the national guard in D.C. you said they were going to kill

[Caller/Listener]

friends.

[Caller/Guest]

And they're still here as a part of Trump's political game that he's playing, because they don't need to be here.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

It's not a political game. He brought down crime 60%. It's safe to live here, ya moron.

[Caller/Guest]

But we're seeing this decriminalization and the slippery slope to authoritarianism. But this is what it looks like.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Not one little bit, right?

[Caller/Guest]

Like all of a sudden, something that you played in. Something that. When I came to visit Washington, I also play splash around, Andrew.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

No, you didn't.

[Caller/Guest]

All of a sudden, that's a crime. And so we're going to have a kid who's flashing around in a pool in Washington, D.C. like thousands of kids do all the time, where we're going to put them in handcuffs.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Yeah, yeah, we're going to. We're going to put kids in handcuffs who splash around in swimming pools. You don't splash around in the reflecting pool. I am a.

[Caller/Guest]

That's, to me, is the ultimate sort of symbol of how this country has fallen into disrepair and authoritarianism.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Hold on. He says that the country's fallen into disrepair when we're cleaning it up. I mean, oh, you guys are so just done. You just don't know it. Your network, your movement are dead and you just don't bloody know about it. Here's Benny Thompson. Remember when the National Guard soldier got murdered by an Afghani who came here in December? I was going to the Newsmax studio that day, and Benny Thompson called it an unfortunate accident.

[Chuck Devore]

She did.

[Caller/Guest]

Madam Secretary, you and the gentleman from ct, NCTC Reference. The unfortunate accident was a murder. It was a National Guard.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

It was a murder.

[Caller/Guest]

And killed.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

You think that was an unfortunate accident?

[Caller/Guest]

I mean, it was a terror. Wait, wait, Look, I'll get it straight. Then you can.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

He shot our National Guardsman in the head. You try to get away with something.

[Caller/Guest]

Ms. Chairman, will you direct the witness to allow me to ask my question?

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Ask your question, you moron. And by the way, the reason why that National Guard woman was murdered, because the Democrat Party called our National Guard Nazis for moving in and making the city safe. I see them all the time and I thank them, whether they're from Mississippi, South Carolina, wherever they are from. And by the way, an interesting note. When I went down the Reflecting Pool two weeks ago, I rolled up on the National Guard there from Mississippi. You want to know the name of the man? The first person I met from Mississippi Presley. And yes, he's related. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey guys, it's Carson for Relief Factor. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Those words weren't written for history books. They were written for you. But it's hard to pursue happiness when pain is a part of your everyday life. Relief Factor was created to help people address inflammation, one of the most common causes of ongoing aches and pains from aging, over exertion and daily living. It's a 100% drug free research based formula that works through multiple metabolic pathways to support comfort and mobility. No prescription, no masking symptoms, just real relief so you can keep moving forward. I work out every other day. I crush it at the gym and I ride my bike 100 miles on the weekend. I credit Relief Factor for making all of those activities pain free. And as America celebrates 250 years of independence, give yourself a chance to reclaim yours. To commemorate, they're offering a special patriotic price, just 1776. Yeah. So you can pursue your happiness being pain free. Your $17.76 three week quick start is ready for you. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-number-4 relief. That's relieffactor.com or 800-4 relief.

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It is a Rob Carson show. We are joined by a special guest who is also headquartered in Washington, D.C. making a massive impact on the John Fredericks Radio Network. John Fredericks joins us from the heart of the swamp. How are you doing this glorious Wednesday, my friend?

[John Fredericks]

Hey, Rob, thanks for having me here. Just live at the Capitol with the president. Just had his luncheon with key Senate members. A couple of big updates right off the bat. One of the things you said, I'll get to the election last night where madame won his three seats. We're about to get a Communist mayor in Washington, D.C. get another one in Los Angeles. President Trump saying that when asked about the election, saying that the communists had taken over the Democratic Party lock, stock and barrel and that he's not going to let the communists take over the country, is going to fight him tooth and nail. So that was on that he had a signing today at the White House for the housing bill. The, the White House press pool informed us that the president has canceled that signing today. That is canceled. And he said he's not going to sign that or anything. Else until the Senate passes the SAVE Act.

[Caller/Guest]

Boom.

[John Fredericks]

You know, he needs 60 votes. He's got 53. So the Democrats going crazy over so are some Republicans. But that signing of the Housing act is canceled today. No signing of that in the White, in the White House. In the, in the interim this morning, speaker of the House Mike Johnson called the President and told him very specifically that he was going to put the say back inside the reconciliation. He's going to call it Reconciliation 3.0 to try to get it that way in order to get, in order to get the 50 votes which he needs. However, the parliamentarian of the Senate has ruled the last time that that bill was not a revenue type bill so it couldn't go in. And so she has ruled against it before. They're going to take another shot at it. But now what some people are calling John Thune to do, who will not get rid of the filibuster, what they're calling John Thune to do is get

[Fred Flights]

rid of the parliamentarians.

[John Fredericks]

So that's where we are right now.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Wow. It's a big deal. I got to tell you, I'm actually kind of thrilled with what happened in New York last night. We got rid of Dan Goldman and we've got three communists who are not going to win. The Democrat Party is divided. There's no way in the 250th anniversary of the year of the birth of the nation and the wave of patriotism that's happened that communism is going to take over the country. And if anything, I think it makes things look even better than they we thought they did in November. What do you think?

[John Fredericks]

Listen, I'm still bullish. I believe the Republicans are going to House. I'm the only guy in media, you and I probably saying that, what, eight, eight months, once they lost those four seats in Virginia and the eight seats in redistricting, they're down 12 from what they thought they were. And they continue to put up basically communist candidates in some of these swing districts and they, they can't get away from that. They got four seats in Pennsylvania that they're targeting two in Virginia. They're not going to win either one in Virginia. If they win one of them in Pennsylvania, they're lucky. I think they're, they're probably going to go over four. So you know, the map for them is not there. And they're putting up whack jobs one one after the other. I think with gas prices going down with the straight open, you heard today that more oil has got through there Yesterday than was going through there prior to the war. So also, in another key development, Rob, I know you got to go. In another key development, the president asked the Department of Justice today to look into price gouging by oil companies.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Yeah.

[John Fredericks]

Because he's concerned about the not movement of the price of gas going down and believes that oil companies are gouging Americans.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

It is unbelievable. Also, some things happening. I thought about coming down for the National State Fair tonight. Donald Trump going to be delivering an address down there. Have you seen the setup down there on the National Mall with regard to this fair, sir?

[John Fredericks]

Yeah, I've not seen it yet, but almost every state is represented. I heard it's going to be one of the most beautiful things you've ever witnessed. It's going on for a month. There's going to be a lot of activity, a lot of fun, a lot of people coming into, you know, what is now the safest, most beautiful, cleanest city in America.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I know.

[John Fredericks]

Due to President Trump.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Yeah. They're also doing the projection on the Washington Monument again, I believe, July 1st through the 4th. And if you haven't seen that, brother, it is such. It's just stunning. It's just breathtaking. It's amazing on the heels of the UFC fight, which was absolutely breathtaking. You know, the left can do all they want. They're trying to destroy the reflective pool. They put a fence around there. They're not going to win, John.

[John Fredericks]

Well, you know, Rob, I don't want to make you jealous, but we could see the monument light right out of our living room window.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Where are you going to see the fireworks. And, and, and am I going to be invited?

[John Fredericks]

Rob, you're always invited to anything I do. We got to get together. I want to do a town hall meeting in D.C. with John Maguire. I'm going to do it with you later on today to get that done.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I love it.

[John Fredericks]

And yeah. So noon to three, Rob Carson under John Frederick's media network. Fucking the Truth along with me across America. By the way, your ratings are up. Your show's doing great. It's an honor to be on, Rob.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Oh, brother. I can't tell you what it means to be partnered with you. You are the only person who works harder than me and James Brown every single day, bro. I've never seen anybody work harder than you. You make it happen because you do it, John. Fredericksradio.com, johnfredricksradio.com God bless you, brother. Thanks for checking in today. I appreciate you, Rob.

[John Fredericks]

Thanks. Have A great day.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

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[Rob Carson (Host)]

All right, it is a Wednesday edition of the Rob Carson Show. Before we go to our next guest, who I, who I by the way, respect greatly with regard to foreign policy, I want to hear. This is from Mark Rudy of NATO.

[Mark Rudy]

European allies pre positioning their assets close to the Straits. So to be able to help, for example, when it comes to demining, what you see here, Brett, is really the President of the United States. Not only being the President of the United States, he is more than that. He's also the leader of the free world. We will have in two weeks a summit in Ankara with the 32 allies plus 10 other nations. So in total, 42 nations representing a combined economy of 70 trillion billion. That's two and a half the size of the American economy being led by this president as leader of the free world. They want to follow him on this. And I'm absolutely sure that where the G7 was a big success also in Ankara, we will see these 42 countries coming to join.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I'll tell you what, Fred, flight sounds like a whole lot of ring kissing going on around the world. Now that Donald Trump is kind of reaching an agreement with Iran and whatnot. What are your thoughts?

[Fred Flights]

Man, it's great to be here. Rut is an interesting guy. Europeans are generally so hostile towards Trump and he's consistently been pretty fair and I mean, he hasn't always been positive, but I thought that was a good assessment. What I thought was interesting from him, from the head of the iaea, is that although the Iranians keep claiming nothing's been agreed to in these talks, they're not going to let inspectors into Iran. The Iranians lie. They agree to things in private and then publicly they lie about it. And I think this has to be pointed out to the American people. CNN goes right out and they report the Iranian lie to make it look like the Trump administration is lying. But I don't know if this is propaganda or they're just trolling Trump. But I think the American people have to realize that nothing the Iranians say publicly can be trusted.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

What is remarkable is that our media, since day one of Operation Epic Fury, have taken the word of the Iranians who killed 40,000 of their own people minimum for protesting over this administration.

[Fred Flights]

I mean, it's just shameful. I mean, there's nothing Trump can do that they're going to give him credit for. They're not going to believe anything his people say. But look, these negotiations are difficult. The Iranian government is broken. It's fighting with itself. It does agree to things and then goes back on what it agreed to. But on some of these things, Iranian officials actually did agree to them and the agreement is still standing, even though publicly they're claiming they didn't agree to it.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I wonder if they're trying to maintain some level of power, I guess, in their country. Do you suppose they're playing to their citizenry who are on the, I mean, they're on the verge of revolt. They're on the verge of taking up arms and killing the IRGC remnants? Do you suppose that they're Trying to save their own rear ends and act like.

[Fred Flights]

Of course, I think it's mostly for domestic consumption. I think that the negotiators are afraid of the irgc, but they also like humiliating Trump and trying to get Trump to be criticized. And so it's just a shameful way of operating. If we're trying to end this war, these Iranian officials are making it a lot harder.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Don't they realize that Donald Trump doesn't get humiliated? He doesn't. He does not get humiliated. He did not know. He's the Teflon don. When it comes to stuff like this, it just doesn't happen. I wanted you to hear the words. I respect KT McFarland a good deal. She was on Newsmax the other night talking about, you know, Iran getting money. Kind of a Marshall Plan coming from other Gulf states, and when, if and when. And how the money will be controlled.

[KT McFarland]

No, because of the way they're opening the money. So we're going to be able to watch where the money goes, cleverly, because we're now letting them sell and buy in dollars. Those go through American banks. We can see where the money goes, how much money they're getting. Before, with the shadow fleets, it was a black hole. We didn't know where the money was going. So if they say, oh, we're going to use our money to rebuild hospitals, but in fact they're going to use their money to send a Hezbollah and rebuild missiles, we'll see where that money goes. And then what do we do? We can shut down, down that whole money train just as quickly as we turned it on.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

You know, it's hard for us to trust anyone because for 47 years we've had abject failure with regard to Iran. I even have had time, difficult time, giving the President of the doubt the benefit of the doubt as this ceasefire continued. But I'm willing to do that. What do you think about this, about people investing in Iran rather than just giving money to Iran?

[Fred Flights]

I'm skeptical about what just said. I hope there's a way to restrict the. When the assets are unfrozen, when sanctions are lifted. It'd be nice if we could restrict the way the Iranian government spends its money. But money is fungible.

[Chuck Devore]

Who has ever applied the military?

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Sorry, I hit the wrong button there. Yeah, I understand your skepticism, because they can't be trusted.

[Fred Flights]

I will add this. It's hard to restrict what they spend their money on in their country. But if, if it is this $300 billion investment fund, I think we can have accountability. And when I say we, I don't mean the United States providing the money, but the US should insist to the Gulf states that provide this money. There has to be strings attached on where it goes. The checks have to be written to rebuild bridges and infrastructure and desalination plants. But when we release their assets, whether it's in dollars or not, we're not really going to have any ability to control how the Iraqi government spends those funds.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Here is Chuck Devore talking, talking about the difference between Reagan and Trump with regard to Iran. Here it is.

[Chuck Devore]

Who has ever applied the military force to create the conditions for successful negotiations like President Trump has? Jesse, when I was a 25 year old Reagan appointee in the Pentagon, this is 39 years ago, I was part of a war game that looked into what we would do to open the strait. When we started to escort Kuwaiti tankers, this was in the middle of the Iran Iraq war. They were shooting at tankers, both countries were. And I was part of a team that had a more robust response. The other team was State Department led and they had this tit for tat proportional response. At the end of this simulation, Jesse, Our team had 1/30 the casualties of the State Department team. Well, Reagan used our plan and that's what turned into Operation praying mantis in 1988. Now, to put that into perspective, what Trump did to Iran was about 300 times the force that Reagan applied.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

So what he has done as far as applying force to Iran is unprecedented. The Navy is underwater, the military industrial complex is in shambles, the economy is dead Inflation, inflation is 300%. Don't you suppose conditions are favorable for something really good to come out of this?

[Fred Flights]

I think so. And that puts the lie to these claims by congressional Democrats in the media that we're ending the war and Trump didn't accomplish anything, or that what Trump accomplished is the same as what Obama accomplished. No, no, it's not. Iran has been destroyed. Its military has been destroyed. Its capability to make missiles has been destroyed as nuclear infrastructure has been destroyed. It's significantly weaker than it was before. Trump accomplished a lot. Getting these stubborn Islamists to get to a final agreement, that's proven hard. But that doesn't mean they've been. I mean, they still have been defeated even though they claim they haven't been.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Well, even last Friday, you know, last week, the Memorandum of understanding, I mean, everybody's heads exploded. I had people who I've had on the air for years just, I mean, Brigitte Gabriel, my God, you know, the worst thing in the world that seems to have calmed down a little bit. What do you think about that?

[Fred Flights]

Well, I mean, it's an imperfect deal, but it's a necessary deal. And I explained this in an American greatness piece I ran last Friday. Trump has to end the war and there will be some concessions made, like releasing assets, lifting sanctions that are necessary to get the war to end. Trump said this would not be a quagmire, would not be a long term operation. I think ultimately the way to solve this is that the Iranian people have to take back their country.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Amen, brother.

[Fred Flights]

There's a very good chance that whatever the Iranians agree to, they're going to violate it and resume their nuclear program. So the US and Israel have to be prepared if that happens to mow the grass to destroy those structures. As soon as the Iranians start to rebuild, hell yeah.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Fred. Flights. I want to continue the conversation on the other side. I want you to hear your thoughts on Keir Starmer resigning and what the future holds for Great Britain. If you don't mind, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey guys, it's Rob Carson for Ghostbed. I love my ghost bed. Do you really want another summer like last summer? Barely sleeping because you are too hot all night. People blame summer heat for bad sleep when it really may be their mattress trapping heat. And if you're already sleep hot, summer only makes it worse. That's exactly why I switched to Ghostbed. Ghostbed keeps you cool all night. No waking up sweaty tossing and turning or throwing the covers off at 2am Cooling tech is built into every mattress. It's not some expensive upgrade you have to pay extra for. Hot sleepers are some of Ghostbed's happiest customers. Read the reviews. Incredible support. Less stiffness, deeper sleep, more rested mornings. Ghostbed gives you 101 nights to try it at home. You can sleep on it all summer long and feel the difference yourself. How many more summers are you going to waste on bad sleep? Ghostbed is offering my audience an extra 10% off with financing. Some Ghostbeds come out to around a dollar a day. Go to ghostbed.com Carson. Use the promo code Carson. That's ghostbed.com Carson promo code Carson.

[Labour Party Representative]

Six years ago, I inherited a Labour Party that was politically, financially and morally bankrupt. I was told time and time again that my party was finished, that we were consigned to history. That a majority at the general election, let alone a landslide majority.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Talk about tone. Deaf. The Labour Party is all of the things that he just said it was. And now he's no longer the Prime Minister. He's going to be leaving very soon. I'm curious as to what Fred Flights, the senior fellow of the American First Policy Institute, by the way, has to say about Starmer's departure. What do you think, Fred?

[Fred Flights]

Good writ. Testimonious. Woke, Obnoxious. I'm so tired of hearing him. Whenever President Trump would make a decision, we'd hear some, you know, ridiculous stuck up statement from Starmer. Good luck.

[John Fredericks]

But you know he's going to be

[Fred Flights]

replaced by a guy named Andy Berner, another member of the Labour Party. The problem isn't just Starmer, it's the policies of this liberal woke party that is in serious trouble with the British people. Unfortunately, they're in power until 2029. Nothing's going to get better in the UK as long as the Labour Party is running the country and they have a solid hold over the House of Parliament.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Well, there's going to have to be some sort of a uprising and I believe we're bordering on that right now, to be quite honest. I'll just be quite honest. I think the British people are sick and damn tired of it. I think that you see this unbelievable story of 250,000 white women in Great Britain raped and trafficked by Pakistani Islamists. I don't think that's going anywhere. I think that the outrage is just beginning. I could be wrong.

[Fred Flights]

There's just out of control immigration, mostly of military age men from the Middle east and they are destroying the UK and the Labour Party doesn't want to fix it and it's still not going to fix it under this new leader. You see these overloaded boatloads of immigrants coming across English Channel. They could be stopped by the British government. They won't stop them. Instead, the British government is persecuting people who say politically incorrect things online. That's their priority, not protecting the British people from people who are not fleeing persecution. They're just coming to the UK to change the UK to change civilization.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I had heard the possibility of calling for an election before 2029 is that Nigel Farage is talking about. Is there a way that something like that could happen to usher in new leadership? That the Labor Party could be driven for power? Not possible.

[Fred Flights]

No, because they have the majority. That's just the way the system operates. There can be new elections held at any time whenever the Prime Minister, who represents the majority decides to have them. And they'd be foolish to have elections before then because their party's so unpopular.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Well, the Conservatives also, I believe, if I'm mistaken, are divided in three ways. I was speaking to Hillary Fordwich about that the other day. It's a complicated situation. Something's going to have to be done. And I just, I have the feeling that the British people, that something's going to happen. I don't think they're going to, I don't think they're going to wait around some, some earthquake is going to happen.

[Fred Flights]

It does worry me that the Conservatives are divided and that may allow the Labour Party to stay in power. I hope they unite.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Hopefully, hopefully they get behind Farage. I'm a big fan of Farage. What do you think about the Democrat Party? The Democrat Party, I wouldn't say has been wholesale overtaken by the communists, but they are a house divided.

[Fred Flights]

It's just amazing to see these candidates winning and seem to have all the energy. And I saw a victory rally for one of the candidates who won in New York and Hakeem Jeffries came on the screen to congratulate them and they were all saying, you're next.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Yeah, yeah. Listen to the. I want you to listen to. This is Cory Booker. He is in denial, given that. What did you make of your fellow Democratic Senator John Fetterman today when he was asked about these New York primaries? He said the dirtbag left is, is surging, I believe is how he described it. Again for me, if you want to heal a country, you can't be picking fights. I think we need to understand that our party is not homogenous. One of the things that makes the Democratic Party great is it's a big tent party. Yeah, but they're kicking the old school Democrats out of the tent, right?

[Fred Flights]

No, they're kicking the Jews out of the tent, dude.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

You know what? And listen, nothing more chilling than Dan Goldman being kicked out of a coffee house in New York because he's a Jew and then three anti Semite socialists being elected. Right.

[Fred Flights]

Goldman is such an obnoxious, Trump hating liberal. The fact that he's not far left enough. Well, the fact that he favors Israel, he doesn't like Netanyahu, he doesn't like the war in Iran, but he's Jewish and he's pro Israel, so they threw him out. It's astounding.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

It is astounding and it's also terrifying because if I'm not mistaken, the last time a party really leaned into socialism and anti Semitism, it didn't end very well in Germany. And I do mean that with all of my heart. They have not learned from history and they possess the same hatred of the Jewish state. They want it erased. There is no doubt about this. And the mayor of New York City is an Islamist first. He is an Islamist first. But I don't think it's going to go very far nationally. Fred Flights, I appreciate you being on the show today, Fred. You're on Twitter at Fred Flights. Where else can people find your glorious work, sir?

[Fred Flights]

Well, check out my website that talks about my new book on the North Korean nuclear program. Fredflights.com let's have you on to talk

[Rob Carson (Host)]

about the book next week. Okay. Fredflights.com let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. When the Democrats aren't nominating communists, they're nominating psychotic soy boys who believe God is non binary and there are six genders.

[Caller/Guest]

And that's, you know, I always think of myself as a.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

And he also hates Christianity.

[Caller/Guest]

Christian who, who hates Christianity. Y.

[Juan Naula]

Right.

[Caller/Guest]

And like I always get, always get drawn back into it.

It's so weird. This guy is just so weird. And seeing that he's a Christian who hates Christianity, I think pretty much sums it up. I know this is a guy who believes that men ought to be playing women's sports and men ought to be in women's locker rooms. I guess maybe we read a different Bible. I'm pretty sure the Bible says that male and female, God created them and he saw that it was good. There's not 200 genders. There's two. There's nothing wrong with being a woman or being a man. And I just think this guy, he's got to be one the, the weirdest Senate candidate out there this year for the Democrats. And that is really saying something.

My imagination is also just limited by my own, my own background and identity. Right. My own, my whiteness, my masculinity, all

[Rob Carson (Host)]

you have no masculinity.

[Caller/Guest]

Those things limit my imagination about what's possible. So I have to press against that to try to expand the limits of, of what I'm dreaming of our community. And that's where, you know, Dr. Robin, your book helps me do that and podcasts like this help me do that.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

Yeah, he hates Christianity. He's not gonna be elected in Texas.

Tyler Rico's a fake. He has too much to take. A Christian claims to be Jim Gossip, but he just got through bashing Christianity.

He's a genius.

It's not breaking news. He's got whacked out views Jim Gossett. And it is plain to see.

Come on.

That he has real contempt for Christianity and his sexuality. He insists that six genders exist, says God's non binary.

Yeah, he's nuts.

And that he isn't fond of Christianity. They must vote him down. They don't need this clown.

Oh, my God.

Listen to our plea. Don't want a critic of it. Christianity.

Yeah, there you go.

[Caller/Guest]

That's your.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

That's your Democrat Party. They're freaking off their. Completely off their rockers. Just completely Opera here is a bim. Ben Dominance talking about the Democrat Party.

[Caller/Listener]

These people are crazy. They are crazy. They want to burn down everything that makes America great. They also want to burn down, by the way, everything that would pay for the different things that they want about America. You look at the billionaire tax in California, it's like you want to destroy the very thing that you're also asking to pay for. All of these different, you know, unicorn fart kind of things that you're offering to the American people. And look, when it comes to these candidates, I think that they're terrible.

[Rob Carson (Host)]

I think, yeah, yeah, they are. They're absolutely terrible. Graham Platner, James talafrico.

The.

The Daycare 3 in New York. That's the Democrat Party. That's the best they have to offer. We are going to destroy them in the midterms. Now we know who we're fighting. Now we know what we're up against and we will win. Our number three of the Ron Carson Show, Right hand. Don't go anywhere.

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