
-China expert Gordon Chang discusses the trade war between the US and China. -Tulsi Gabbard is confirmed without a single Democrat vote, Team MAGA is almost complete.
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Rob Carson
Hold it. Now, you are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is hour number two on the Rob Carson Show. This hour, Gordon Chang, he's gonna be joining us at the bottom of the hour to talk about not only his book, he's got this book called Plan Red China's Project to Destroy America. He also wrote the coming collapse of China. And I have a feeling that China is a little nervous about Donald Trump's presidency. And I've said for a very long time, their economy is a paper tiger. They build these elaborate cities all over China that have no residence at all. And that's kind of a metaphor for China in general. So we will see what happens, and we'll talk to him at the bottom of the hour about that. Okay. Does that sound cool? I think it sounds pretty cool. Obviously, a lot of people talking about the, the Doge and all of the corruption that they're finding, all of the massive waste. I mean, guys, you know, Musk was talking about $2 trillion in cuts. I would say even more. I would say there's even more. And, and I think that the surrounding Counties of Washington, D.C. are going to experience a little hit economically and an otherwise, by the way, otherwise bulletproof economy around D.C. because government employees make about 70% more than the average employee with total salary, benefits, and all of that stuff. And 94% of them haven't been going to work. And Elon Musk is in charge. That's why there was all this caterwauling, all this crybaby nonsense. It's because the gravy train is ending for politicians, Democrat politicians. And in all these NGOs and whatnot that we've, we've just been sending money to the Social Security Administration, cutting tens of thousands of checks without, you know, on, on, you know, blank checks. Blank checks for any amount. Honestly, it's, it's worse than you could ever imagine. It's worse than I could have ever imagined what they're finding. And, and the more that, that, you know, the Democrats, Maxine Waters, complain about it, the more foolish they look because they are defending the indefensible. And, and it's like, you know, former KGB agents after the wall has fallen, saying, no, it was fine. Everything was great. It's not going to work. It's not going to work. Democrats are prepared to shut down the government. Oh, my God. Well, that's going to cause children to starve and baby Kittens to die or something. It's going to be terrible. The sky's going to fall. That's what they say every time the government shuts down. But they're ready to do it. Makes you kind of wonder if they ever really gave a crap about you in the last government shutdown. So yeah, they're going to shut down the government because they are enraged over Doge and their audit of government spending. I cannot support efforts that will continue this lawless that we're seeing when it comes to the administration's access as Senator Andy Kim Meet the Press and for us to be able to support government funding in a way only for them to turn it around to dismantle the government, that is something that should not be allowed. I've worked in government, I've worked through multiple government shutdowns. I would be the last person who would want to get to that stage. But we are at a point where we are basically at the cusp of the constitutional crisis. A constitutional crisis, that's what they're calling it. You know, there's really, really finding that the government is absolutely corrupt and wasting our money by the trillions of dollars while ignoring the American people. That's a constitutional crisis. Okay, go with that.
Gordon Chang
That is a constitutional crisis.
Joe Rogan
Causing a constitutional crisis.
Dana Bash
Constitutional crisis.
Rob Carson
We are in a constitutional crisis. This is a genuine constitutional crisis.
Dana Bash
Constitutional crisis.
Rob Carson
Crisis. The country has faced Constitutional crisis. Yeah, that's supposed to be a montage of people saying constitutional crisis. I don't know who did the mixing, but they might be deaf. But anyway, I think you get the idea. I like to liken it to the vampires dying and wanting to drag you into the pits of hell. So is mine. That's the Democr. That's from Lost Boys. That's a Gen X movie kind of, I guess with Kiefer Sutherland and all sorts of people in it who got really super famous. Here is Mike Johnson talking about the gross overreaction from the media and the Democrats. Gross overreaction in the media to what is happening. The executive branch of government in our system has the right to evaluate how executive branch agencies are operating and to ensure that not only the intent of Congress in funding mechanisms, but also the stewardship of precious American taxpayer dollars. It's our frickin money is being handled. Well, that's what they're doing by putting a pause on some of these agencies and by evaluating them by doing these internal audits. Yeah, that is a long overdue, much welcome development. That's what the American people demand. And yeah, they spent a billion dollars on the last. The last audit of the Defense Department. You know what they found out? They didn't pass the audit serve. And that's what's happening. So we don't see this as a threat. I mean, can you get quick, QuickBooks, whatever the hell. Maybe H and R Block. Get H and R Block. They probably do it for 100 million.
Jeffrey Toobin
Go one at all.
Rob Carson
We see this as an. And they come with a guarantee. Engaged, committed, executive branch authority. Doing what the executive branch should do. Yeah, you guys have failed us. You failed us miserably. Y' all ought to be fired, every single one of you. And everybody should have to reapply, for God's sake. Unbelievable. And then, and then there's this. Here's Elon Musk. I don't know if you do this. It's very hard to fire employees of the government. You know why? Because all the records are in a hole in the ground. Did you know about that? All in a hole in the ground.
Unnamed Government Official
This is actually, I think, a great anecdote because we're told that the most number of people that could retire possibly, possibly in a month is 10,000. Why is that?
Rob Carson
Why?
Unnamed Government Official
Well, because all the. All the retirement paperwork is manual on paper. It's manually calculated, then written down on a piece of paper.
Rob Carson
Well, I guess. I guess I figured out why it cost a billion dollars for the audit of the DoD because they used an abacus.
Unnamed Government Official
Then it goes down a mine. I'm like, what do you mean, a mine? Yeah, like, yeah, there's a limestone mine. We store all the retirement paperwork iron nothing. The limiting factor is the speed at which the mine shaft elevator can move determines how many people can retire from the federal.
Rob Carson
Federal government.
Unnamed Government Official
And the elevator breaks down sometimes, and then you can't. Nobody can retire.
Rob Carson
Have you guys heard of these things called computers?
Unnamed Government Official
Doesn't that sound crazy? Yeah, there's like a thousand people that work on this.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Unnamed Government Official
So I think if we take those people and say, like, you know what? Instead of working in a mineshaft, in carrying manila envelopes to, you know, boxes in a mineshaft, you could do practically anything else. And you. You would add to the goods and services of the United States in a more useful way.
Rob Carson
You know why they do it that way? Because they have too many employees and not enough work. They have too many employees and not enough work. So what they do is they drag ass. I've seen this. I've worked at union jobs. I'm not saying all you do this way, but you Drag ass, you know, oh, hey, we're eight hours and we got to do, you know, one thing rather than try to do three things. You know, wait and slow down that one. And then tomorrow you can do the second thing. That's what they're doing. That's exactly what the hell they're doing. That's why they don't want to modernize, because they need to slow down the process. I actually have, I think this. I'm not sure who did this. This is actually to give you an idea how slow it is going into the mine shaft in Iron Mountain and getting the records of just two retirees.
Dana Bash
Listen, vault 687.
Rob Carson
Lamp please. Very slow. There you go. Open it up. There you go. The envelope out of there.
Dana Bash
Vault 713.
Rob Carson
Stand back. Here we go again. The keypad or something. There you go. Imagine doing that 10,000 times in a month. That's why it takes so long. Here's Elon Musk talking about. Gasp, shriek. Actually having to get rid of some employees who aren't doing their jobs.
Unnamed Government Official
You know, one of the things is like we are trying to sort of right size the federal bureaucracy. Just make sure that this. Obviously there needs to be a lot of people working for the federal government, but not as many as currently. So we're saying, well, okay, well let's. If people can retire, you know, with full benefit, that would be good. They can retire for the retirement payments, everything. And then we were told, this is actually, I think a great anecdote.
Rob Carson
What's up?
Unnamed Government Official
Because we're told that the most number of people that could retire possibly in a month is 10,000.
Rob Carson
Yeah, we already heard that. But you get the idea. Here's Elon Musk talking about deregulation, which is something that we need because we have so many damned regulations and.
Unnamed Government Official
But with the support of the president, we can cut the budget deficit in half from $2 trillion to one. And then with deregulation minimum, because there's a lot of sort of regulations that don't ultimately serve the public good. We need to free the builders of America to build.
Rob Carson
Yeah, and you know the Democrat formula for success in the economy. Spend a lot of government money to do new government projects. That's why they keep saying green New Deal and New Deal and New Deal and New Deal. The FDR came up with the deal, which was a government work, not jobs. And that's what Democrats are really good at. They'll create work but not jobs. You understand the difference? It means, you know, that's why they Play drag ass when they go with a manila envelope underground to get somebody to retire because they want to create work, keep you a little busy, and then spend all sorts of government money to have you work doing a job. But I mean, not a really job, just doing work. And then. And then when you spend so much government money, inflation goes through the ceiling. So what do you do? Well, you jack up interest rates on the rest of us. Yeah, that's the Democrat. That's the Democrat plan for the economy. And it always fails. You know what works? Deregulation and cutting taxes.
Unnamed Government Official
Do that. That means, I think you get the economic growth to be maybe 3, 4%, maybe 5%. And that means if you can get a trillion dollars of economic growth and you cut the budget deficit by a.
Rob Carson
Trillion, you should be able to do more than that. They ought to be able to cut it immediately to the spending levels. Pre Covid. That should be easy. And then cut from there another trillion or two. Honestly. Are you freaking kidding me? It should be very, very easy. Should be very, very easy. This is Caitlin Collins. She's. Her name's Caitlin. Oh, my God. She's so amazing. And she is a journalist, supposedly. And you know, she was at the debate and she's a leftist and all of that. Here she is talking about, and she's getting a lot of crap because she is saying, like everyone else, that finding waste and, and, and corruption in our government is a constitutional crisis.
Dana Bash
We are three weeks into the second Trump presidency. Three weeks. And tonight there are warnings that the US Is dangerously close to a constitutional crisis.
Rob Carson
No, we're not at all, not at all on this.
Dana Bash
Dropped when a federal judge today said the White House is defying his order to unfreeze billions of dollars in federal aid, marking the first time that we've had a judge expressly accuse the Trump administration of ignoring a court ruling.
Rob Carson
That's really weird because AOC was all down with that when Joe Biden was the president. Just ignore the court altogether has been.
Dana Bash
Thought, I believe, given to this. Senator Ron Wyden has already issued statements, for example, advising what we should do in a situation like this, which I concur, which is that I believe that the Biden administration should ignore this ruling. I think that we, you know, why the hell not?
Rob Carson
Joe Biden ignored the Supreme Court paid off hundreds of billions of dollars in student loans. Why the hell not? Welcome to payback, people. Yeah, welcome to it. And it's not a constitutional crisis. It's absurd to even call it that. Coming up, I've got A little more audio on this. Oh, and then we've got to go to some of the protests outside with a few government workers who may or may not have been paid to be there. Just like Antifa in the summer of 2020. We're gonna take a break, my friends. This is the Rob Carson show.
Jim Gossett
Fasten your seatbelt. Deep state. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. It's the Rob.
Dana Bash
Democrats are in the minority, so you have only so much leverage. Have you all essentially made it clear to Mike Johnson that until they allow you all to subpoena Big Balls and the normalized Indian hate guy, at least subpoena them or, and, or subpoena Elon Musk. No votes on the budget. No votes, no Democratic votes at all.
Rob Carson
That is Joy Reid. That's the only time you'll ever hear the word big Balls come out of her mouth. And the media of course is doing their usual trying to cover up for the Deep state. A lot of the media got paid by USAID, by the way, including like anywhere between 8 and 20 million dollars to POLITICO to cover up all the malfeasance of the Biden administration. And Joe Rogan had a perfect analogy for people like this.
Joe Rogan
Is a buffalo drop. Do you know those buffalo jumps?
Rob Carson
No.
Joe Rogan
You know, the Native Americans used to one of the ways to hunt buffalo was to get them to the edge of a cliff and just run at them and they just fall off the edge of the cliff and then people be waiting on the bottom. They butch and eat them. Okay, we're in that pile of buffalo.
Rob Carson
We're all being run off the cliff.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, they're going to go off the cliff. There's no way. They're not, they're not course correcting at all. No, it's all nonsense.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Their understanding of social media and the dynamics that you set up by having completely state controlled mainstream media where they only said the narratives that you guys wanted, they all set it in step so you could watch different programs repeat the exact same words, exact same phrases. We know they got talking points. We don't trust you anymore. We don't trust the New York Times, we don't trust the Washington Post, we don't trust CNN or any of the MSNBC where they're all full with propaganda.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And so that's why the Internet rose.
Rob Carson
Yeah, yeah, it's exactly right. Because they haven't course corrected at all. And, and it's so glorious because they are literally, they are shoveling dirt on their own casket. It is, it is Absolutely marvelous. Absolutely brilliant. Here. Here's Joe Rogan as well. I'm going to go ahead and have some other Joe Rogan. You know, he's, he's, he's, you know, he used the vampire analogy about the left, you know, dying. We driving a stake. We've opened the casket, the left is there. We're driving a stake into the heart of the deep state, and it's trying to drag us into hell. He used that yesterday. But then there are all these idiotic protests going on in D.C. and by the way, it's all just like antifa. Just like BLM. It's all AstroTurf. Bought and paid for. It is. There's no passion behind it. I mean, maybe a few government decided to finally get their asses out of their house in their pajamas and go to a protest. They haven't gone to work in four years, but he says, of course they're Astroturf.
Dana Bash
This like, this is Hitler having it notched up to 11 for the past eight years. And now you've got this because he was put in. It's almost like that energy has been transferred to Elon now. Yeah, because now do you see the Elon protest? They're protesting Elon. They're literally standing out there with signs that say, arrest Elon Musk.
Joe Rogan
I guarantee it's organized. I guarantee it's organized by the same people that are gonna lose a shitload of money based on all these discoveries at doge. There's no way. They're not. If you look at what DOGE is uncovering, what they're uncovering with this USAID stuff, a lot of that stuff was organizing through NGOs protests.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Joe Rogan
They organized the attempt at getting Trump impeached.
Dana Bash
Yeah, I thought you were gonna say killed.
Joe Rogan
They also spent USAID spent $50 million on the lab that invented coronavirus.
Rob Carson
Yeah. USAID is evil. And if you worked for it, you don't have a job anymore. Yesterday they had the bunch of. I tell you what, they had a bunch of these old, haggard, hackneyed, you know, baby boomers, think it's the rescue baby. But they decided to sing a song yesterday, and I think the name of the band should be called Woodstock Nursing Home. I'm gonna call it Woodstock Nursing Home. Listen to this. Which side are you on? We'll fight against Josh. We'll fight Elon Musk.
Dana Bash
No way.
Rob Carson
Landscape. You ever sat in the church choir like I did, you know, all my childhood. And you had to sing these songs in the Catholic Church. You'd never even Seen before. You're sight reading them and all of this. And that's what this sounds like. Within our walls we'll fight from dawn to dust. Oh, my God. Oh. Which side are. Which side are you on? Woodstock nursing. Which side are you on? Which side are you on? Wow, that is pathetic. And then, of course, let's see. Who was it yesterday? What's his name was trying to sing the preamble of the Constitution. The preamble of the Constitution. I don't have it in front of me right now. Gosh darn. I was looking for that. I was gonna. I'll get that in a second. But that's. That's the. We'll just call that band Woodstock Nursing Home them. Woodstock Nursing Home. Oh, here is Emmanuel Cleaver speaking yesterday. He's trying to be clever. Cleaver was trying to be clever and ended up looking like an idiot. And it doesn't want to play. Hold on one second.
Dana Bash
And.
Rob Carson
Hold on one second. I'm sorry, I apologize. I thought I had it now here it is. I'm going to be quick. Sorry about that. Because I want to send a message. Yes, yes. To somebody. It's going to be bad. Elon. Yes. Take your musty million and musty Moscow rights to the moon. I think he was trying guard his musk. Yeah, I think he was trying to. I think he was trying to copy this. What makes the elephant charge his tusk.
Gordon Chang
In the misty mist or the dusky dusk?
Rob Carson
What makes the muskrat that God is musk? I don't know. But Elon, musk certainly is. You know, I had, I had practiced that bit and then I had a technical thing. I'm not to admit, I'm not afraid to admit. Occasionally I'll make a face plant. I've got more. I promise it'll get. It'll. It'll be much better. On the other side of this, Gordon Chang joins us next to talk about the paper tiger that is China. Stick around. Hey, guys, it's Carson for Green Chef this year, ditch the fads and create healthier eating habits that last with real clean foods. Green Chef makes it easy with recipes curated for a variety of lifestyles and dietary needs. I personally like the Mediterranean. I've been eating it for months now. With pre made sauces and pre portioned ingredients. There's less prep and less mess and more time to savor delicious restaurant quality meals. Stay on track even on your busiest days. With salads ready in five minutes or less, ready to blend smoothies and grab to go. Protein packed breakfasts. Here are some of the new Green Chef entrees that I have made. Roasted Salmon with Lemon Butter Sauce Thai Spice Chicken Bulgur Bowls Trattoria Chicken and Pan Seared Polenta Pork Filet with Almond and Dates Mediterranean Shrimp Bowls Unbelievable. Thrive all year with clean, easy meals from Green chef. Go to greenchef.com newsmax free and use code newsmax free to get started with free salads for two months plus 50% off your first box. Take advantage of this exclusive offer. Go to greenchef.com newsmaxfree and get the number one meal kit for eating well. It is a Wednesday edition of the Rob Carson Show. Friend of the show, friend of mine, I've been an admirer for years. Gordon Chang has written a new book and it's called Plan Red China's Project to Destroy America. He joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Hello, my friend. How are you today day?
Gordon Chang
I'm fine, Rob, and thank you so much.
Rob Carson
So did Donald Trump's election throw a wrench in that plan to destroy America?
Gordon Chang
I think that it did. And the reason is that Trump is unpredictable. And because of that, I think the Chinese have backed off. You know, it's not like they hated everything that Biden did or they and you know, they didn't, but they thought that Biden was, he was controllable and they knew what Biden would do when Biden entered the Oval Office. So I think when they look at Trump, they see we better stay clear of this guy because he could very well cause us problems that we can't deal with.
Rob Carson
Gordon I believe that the paperwork shows that Joe Biden was bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party. If you look at the amount of money that they gave to the Penn Biden center, you look at the tens, millions of dollars the, the Biden family got. You look at the, the photos now that the national archive was covering up of, of President Biden meeting with, with Hunter's business partners when Joe Biden was the vice president. Hunter went off, it went around China without any Secret Service protection. I mean, China, I believe, bought and paid for Joe Biden. That's why things like, I don't know, having the spy balloon fly over our country actually happened. So this clearly has put the brakes on all of that.
Gordon Chang
Yes. Well, they certainly bought the Biden family. There's no question about that because the money trail tells us that. But you know, also the thing about Biden is that they didn't have to buy him because as Robert Gates famously wrote in his 2014 memoir, Joe Biden has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy and national security matter of the past four decades. And so really, what we're talking about, apart from the money, is that there's a foreign policy establishment in our country that has been very China friendly, and Biden was a part of that and Trump is not. And that is the critical factor.
Rob Carson
Well, you look at some of the hallmarks of previous Marxist communist revolutions, and the left had several of them at work. You had disinformation. That was Joseph Stalin. You had what I consider January 6th, the Reichstag, even. I might even consider the summer of 2020, Kristallnacht. And then, of course, you have the Mao's Cultural Revolution and the erasure of history, people kowtowing to keep their jobs, among other things, the infiltration of universities and whatnot. So clearly, China had its tentacles deep within not only America's corporations, government, but academia. Yeah.
Gordon Chang
Yes. And they've been doing that for decades.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Gordon Chang
Tells us that we've got both parties at fault for this. Liberals and conservatives are both guilty of allowing the Chinese in when they shouldn't have. And one of the things that was important with President Trump's 2018 tariffs was that it broke that cycle, five decade cycle of supporting the Communist Party.
Rob Carson
You know, there's a few things that I've been thinking about, I've been wanting to ask you about. One of them is the new tariffs that Donald Trump is going to be having against China, which is our biggest trading partner. We, we buy a lot of Chinese stuff. We love those cheap cell phones. We love that cheap furniture that, you know, has a made in China label on it. How is that going to hit the paper tiger? I consider China to be the paper tiger. They are powerful. I get it. But, you know, they, they build all these glorious cities all over, and, and those cities are filled with nobody. The, the, the larger share of the population are poor. So I would assume these tariffs would have a huge impact. And also America becoming energy independent again and actually exporting energy, and China doesn't have it. So both of those things are like a one, two punch to China's already kind of, you know, not all that stable economy.
Gordon Chang
Yes. Well, Xi Jinping has put his fate into Donald Trump's hands. And the reason is Xi Jinping has turned his back on consumption as the foundation of the Chinese economy, which means that his only way to rescue China from a grim situation is to export more. U.S. is the world's biggest export destination. It is irreplaceable especially over a short or intermediate term. And that means Trump's tariffs can take the Chinese economy down. And that 10% tariff is really important because not only is it American tariffs, it gives inspiration to the eu, to Japan, to the global south, south to do the same thing to protect their local industries from China's criminal and predatory trade practices.
Rob Carson
Now, the, the thing you have to worry about, and you know as well as I do, when you, when you make an animal desperate, when you corner it, it becomes vicious. So you've got the possibility of China lashing out a lot of the times. There have been times in the past where war has been a use, something that people have used to, to, to rally the people behind it. However, however, China doesn't have the resources. China doesn't have the fuel for war right now, among other things. What do you think about the danger of backing China into a corner?
Gordon Chang
Well, I understand the point, but we got to remember that China is declared a people's war on America. And that's real. It's more than propaganda because they're killing 70 to 75,000Americans each year with fentanyl. And yes, there is a danger of backing China into the war, into war. But the point is, is, is it right for us to fuel a regime that is killing Americans? No regime that is declared that its goal is to destroy the American public. You know, after five decades of really bad China policy, we cannot expect that we're going to get out of this Scot free. And so we're paying a cost for really bad decisions made, especially after the Cold War.
Rob Carson
Yeah. Now we've also seen America, Donald Trump has said, if you build your product in Americ, you're going to get a 15% corporate tax. That is unheard of. You've got Saudi, they're going to invest a trillion dollars. You've got a Japanese AI company, they've been, they're going to invest a half a trillion dollars. You've got. Now there's one other, I'm trying to remember the other investor. $1 trillion. Is it Japan? Japan is going to invest a trillion dollars. I mean, we're talking, we're talking $2 trillion right now. One third of our, you know, revenues every year, year already being invested. That's going to bring major, major power to our economy. And then you put that on top of a 10% tariff for the trillions of dollars of stuff we get from China. I mean, this is going to make us into an economic powerhouse.
Gordon Chang
Yes, well, we already are.
Rob Carson
Even more.
Gordon Chang
China is Number two, and they're less than two thirds the size of ours, even if you believe they're exaggerated numbers.
Rob Carson
Years.
Gordon Chang
So the US Is still the world's giant when it comes to an economy, as you point out, with all this money flowing into the US and it's not just this, Rob. I mean, just Trump's inauguration has convinced people that they should invest in the US So not only those big projects you mentioned, which are of course significant, but also just in general, you have so much money flowing into the US Big concern, of course, force is that this creates even more inflation. And we saw the January inflation report, which was not a good sign. But, you know, putting that aside for the moment, assuming that we can stage all of this, we're going to do really, really well, because the world is coming to the U.S. yeah.
Rob Carson
I think, you know, when I first started in broadcasting, my first year was 1989. And in that year, and I've told you this before, two things happened. The Berlin Wall fell and Tiananmen Square. We were hoping Tiananmen Square would echo what happened in great. In. In. In with the fall of the Soviet Union. We were hoping that would happen. We saw a young man stand in front of tanks and he stopped them. And we saw people in Tiananmen Square. And then the lights went out and the slaughter happened and they turn off the lights. Do you suppose there is a resistance within the Chinese people that could precipitate maybe a Berlin Wall moment for the Chinese Communist Party? Or are they still in tight control of the population?
Gordon Chang
Well, the answer is both. And the reason is yes. Xi Jinping has erected a very capable totalitarian or semi totalitarian state. It's a near total surveillance regime. But we also know that time to time, the Chinese people just rise up unexpectedly.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Gordon Chang
Because it's a very volatile society. And they did that last time. October 2022. Four months of extraordinary protests across China over a lot of different things. There were unrelated protests and then they died down. Yes, but the regime clearly is worried because they know that that can happen again. Yeah.
Rob Carson
And you know, these economic weapons that Donald Trump is using will, you know, I think, precipitate the growth of that movement because Joe Biden, and while Barack Obama ignored the Green revolution in Iran. I believe that Iran is going to be free. I really do. They're going to be free. And I also believe the same will happen to Cuba. And this movement is moving around the world. You know, the USAID and Democrat regimes have kept people in power. Like the election in Brazil, that Ousted Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro should be the president of the country. They echoed the 2020 election interference that happened in this country. In Brazil, you've got a fake election in Venezuela of Maduro. And Maduro is weakening his. Well, and I think that this, this is becoming a global movement and with the right people in Washington D.C. who by the way, we've never seen anything like this. Gordon, you, you must admit you've never seen anything like the revolution that's going on in our country right now. And we're exporting that too. And so if we are supporting these green revolutions in Iran and we are supporting in Cuba, surely the economic weapons we're using against China might help reignite the revolution there.
Gordon Chang
Yes. You know, we have seen, Rob, throughout history that there are waves and there are ways that are good and waves that are bad. Right now we are seeing people around the world and the US is inspiring this, but not actually perpetrating it. We are seeing, because of people looking to the US There are, as you say, those, those hard line regimes are all having problems right now, all of them at the same time.
Rob Carson
Do you suppose Taiwan is off the table for now?
Gordon Chang
I think it is. That's a complex question. I don't think Xi Jinping is ready to invade and a war against Taiwan would be extremely unpopular among the Chinese people. And Xi Jinping is not going to trust any general or admiral with control of the Chinese military to invade Taiwan. Yeah, we depend on reasons it's off the table.
Rob Carson
Yeah, we also depend on Taiwan for, I guess, chips. We, I think a lot of that stuff, that manufacturing is going to come to America. We're going to hopefully lead the world on AI and that's going to change everything. So things are positive. I feel very optimistic, Gordon. And I'm seeing a revolution in this country like I never ever dreamed possible. And it's amazing. Your book is Plan Red China's Project to Destroy America. You can get that right now, right, sir?
Gordon Chang
You certainly can. From Newsmax Books.
Rob Carson
Well, dude, I am so glad to have you on board because your writing is, is awesome and I always appreciate your, your input and I, I certainly enjoyed seeing you at the Christmas party this year. That was pretty fun.
Gordon Chang
Yeah, that was, that was just enormous and awesome. I mean, it was just great. I've never been to that part of the UN so I was just so very happy.
Rob Carson
For, for those who don't know, Newsmac had their Christmas party at the United nations. And Gordon, I don't know if you knew that I asked a Security guard to show me around because I think Donald Trump's going to export the United nations and turn that building into condos. And I was kind of looking for a new place.
Gordon Chang
You very well may be right.
Rob Carson
All right, my friend. It was great to talk to you. Gordon Chang. The book is called Plan China's Project to Destroy America. Thank you, my brother. I appreciate your time today.
Gordon Chang
Thank you so much, Rob. I appreciate it.
Rob Carson
It. All right, let's take a break. This is the Rob Carson Show Garden. Chang's pretty awesome. I like that guy. He's very diminutive, but he is a pretty. Pretty cool dude. Pretty cool dude. One of the things I. If you would have told me three years ago that I would know Gordon Chang, I would have said really well. Pretty crazy. So we got a new economy. I get it, you know, a lot of optimism, but there's also a lot of trouble because, you know, Social Security, Medicare are way, way, way underfunded. And the tax base is not growing because, you know, inflation, inflation is shrinking. So some economists are saying could be a depression rather than a recession. We'll see. But, you know, maybe it's a good time to protect your family with gold in your portfolio. I'm doing it. I got Birch Gold on my side. Gold has been a safe haven in hard economic times. Birch Gold makes it easy to diversify a portion of your savings into physical gold. Why not? Why not protect your future? Today, just text my name to Birch Gold. Here it is. It's real easy. 989-898-9898, 9898. Hey, that's the year I got married. Anyway, text Rob to 989-898. You get the ultimate guide for gold in the Trump era with a forward by Donald Trump Jr. There's no obligation, only information. Text my name, Rob, to the number 989-898. Today, the Democrats are making themselves look like complete morons. It didn't take very much. This is Jamie Rassel. I always say rash hole. Anyway, Raskin, Raskin. Here's Jamie Raskin outside in front of the Capitol because he's trying to defend a bunch of corrupt and lazy government employees who haven't been to work for four years. But they're afraid they're going to lose their job because they're corrupt and lazy. And he tries to lead them into the talking about the preamble of the Constitution. We, the people, in order to form a more perfect. Yeah, here we go. Establish justice. Promote. Yeah, here's tranquility. Yeah, here's where the wheels Come up. Provide for the common defense and support the general welfare and provide to our posterity the blessings of liberty. Do hereby ordain the Constitution of these United States of America. The preamble of the Constitution says. Okay. The founding fathers are spinning in their graves like baseball bats on a layer. Any Gen Xer knows the lyrics to the the Preamble of the Constitution because of Schoolhouse Rock. Thank you very much. We the people, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure.
Dana Bash
Domestic tranquility.
Rob Carson
Provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare. I have secure the blessings of liberty, do ordains and our posterity to ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. There you go. In 1787, I'm told our founding. See, yeah, this is why Schoolhouse Rock was so awesome. If they did it today, it'd be like, oh, I'm just a Bill, but I want to be a Jill, so I'm gonna have my bleeps cut off. You know, something like that. It'd be completely different. Be completely different. I don't even know. Conjunction, junction. What's your function coming up with alternative pronouns for my junction. Whatever. It would be really weird. It would be bizarre. It wouldn't be. But I know that because of. For that. That there. I want to go to John in Dundalk, Maryland. Hello there, John. Welcome to the show. What's up, brother? Hey, how you doing today, Rob? I'm good, I'm good. What's up, bro? Happy, happy Lincoln's birthday. Oh, is that what it is? Okay, I want to comment on. On Jamie Raskin. Yes. The whole thing is that these people. I can't think of anybody less self aware than that guy. He's the East Coast Adam Schiff. Oh, God, he is. Orders. A bunch of executive orders. The judge says, no, you got no power to do it. It. Yes. Then Elon and Trump come on yesterday and they explain exactly what they're trying to do. Yes. And then Raskin, I think it was Raskin, he comes on and he says.
Gordon Chang
That.
Rob Carson
Elon is trying to usurp the power that of the President.
Gordon Chang
No, no, confused.
Rob Carson
Does the president have the power to.
Gordon Chang
To issue executive orders or does he not?
Rob Carson
Yes, he has the power to. To do executive orders. And he has the power to fire people because he's the chief executive. Negative. But Jamie Rashole. I'm sorry, Raskin doesn't understand that. I could call him Jamie Foreskin if you want me to. What? I'm sorry. Yeah, it's embarrassing. You know what's? Even more embarrassing. His hair, his hair implants. Dear God. I mean, it looks like baby doll hair from the 1970s. Appreciate the call, man. Jamie Raskin. Oh, dear God. What a total tool. What a total tool. I mean, really. And again, he's like one of those worthless tools. Not like something you got, not like a crescent wrench or, you know, like a sawzall. He's one of those worthless tools, like those bad Allen wrenches or those bad, you know, single use wrenches. You get the Ikea furniture, completely worthless. You'll never use it again. That's what Jamie Rascal dress. Gosh darn it, Raskin. That's what J.V. raskin is to the state of Maryland. He's a, he is a colon polyp. He is a worthless tool. I don't think I could take it any lower than that to you. I don't think it's any lower than a colon polish. Except for he's a little harder to remove. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea. For, for the commercial, give it a try@mintmobile.com Switch upfront payment of 45 for.
Dana Bash
3 month plan equivalent to 15 per month required new customer offer for first 3 months only. Speed slow after 35 gigabytes of networks busy taxes and fees extra.
Rob Carson
See mint mobile.com this is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson Show. It's Wednesday and we've got a lot on the plate including Elon Musk. He came up with a new nickname because he's got one of the one of his henchmen who are, you know, uncovering all this government waste and fraud. He's been using the name, the handle Big Balls. Well, Big Balls has got a bro and I'm going to introduce you to Big Balls. I'll let Dana Bash introduce you to Dana Bash. Whatever. Introduce you to Big Balls. Brother. It's very fourth grade but man, it's spectacular. It's really spectacular. Doge is started the purge of fear FEMA by firing top agents who put up illegal immigrants in a five star hotels. Donald Trump dramatically fired officials in charge of finances of the government's disaster relief agency FEMA after they put up migrants in five star hotels. FEMA's Chief Financial Officer Maury Comins lost her job after was revealed the agency paid an egregious sum of 59 million to the city of New York among other things to house illegals in luxury hotels while people in, in western eastern, west. No, western North Carolina. There you go. I have my, my directions. I had directile and function, you know, whatever. Dysfunction. Yeah, directile dysfunction is what I had. Effective immediately, FEMA is terminating the employment of four individuals for circumventing leadership in unilaterally making egregious payments for luxury New York City hotels for migrants. What a slap in the face. That's, that's a metaphor for all the crap that we are uncovering right now. Chris Sununu is the, the governor of the state of New Hampshire and he was all against Donald Trump when Donald Trump was losing and he was ready to, you know, he was ready to back, you know, typical rhino stuff. That's what, that's what he is. But he's trying to get on the good side of Donald Trump now. So he's kind of had to come to Jesus moment because he was all down with Nikki Haley and all that and then he realized that Donald Trump was going to win and now he's like, oh, I want to be just like, I just want to be just like, you know, another conservative on cnn. Mirror, mirror. Well, here is Chris Sununu with Jeffrey Toobin who hopefully has his hands above the table debating all of these specific cuts.
Jeffrey Toobin
Musk gave seven specific examples off the top of his head of where the corruption and fraud were. I know you don't, you didn't play the game.
Rob Carson
He's trying to be the sequel to Scott Jennings.
Jeffrey Toobin
He was talking about a contractor that had a three month contract. He was paid for 20 years. He was talking about welfare benefits that were being paid to someone that was technically 150 years old. He was talking about.
Rob Carson
Yeah, all the things that Elon Musk. Musk uncovered yesterday. There are a lot of Social Security recipients who just happen to be 150 years old.
Jeffrey Toobin
Line items like he doesn't present any actual evidence. Well, he's standing there in the over.
Rob Carson
Dude, just because you can't say it in a sentence on CNN doesn't mean there's no evidence, you moron. Don't you suppose that Elon Musk and his band of merry miscreants are uncovering thousands of pages of it office.
Jeffrey Toobin
Do you expect them to come in with 10,000 pages? And I have to be clear to complain about this administration, about transparency when this president takes open questions on a daily basis, yet Joe Biden didn't show up for a press conference this six months is insane. These guys are being extremely transparent. They don't have to sit there and take the questions, but they do.
Rob Carson
And here comes Jeffrey Toobin again. Please put your elbows on the table.
Jeffrey Toobin
All on the website. It's all out there. It's not transparency to say things that have no factual background. I mean, to say we're cutting, saying, you know, we've found a billion dollars or a trillion dollars in waste with no specifics. That's just talk. That's not.
Rob Carson
No, no, he's come up with plenty of specifics, you moron. Plenty of specifics. He's got all sorts of evidence pages and upon pages of evidence of all of the things that this federal government has spent, you know, like $59 million going to luxury hotels just because you can't. Honestly, you know, seriously, the same people who said that there's no evidence that Joe Biden had taken tens of millions of dollars from, from the Chinese Communist Party and others is like saying there's no evidence Joe Biden had thousands of pieces of classified and top secret material in seven different locations. Honestly, Jeffrey Toobin, you know, go back to playing with yourself at home.
Jeffrey Toobin
But where's, but again, you're waiting. You're not going to be satisfied till he shows up with 10,000 pages. He's giving very specific things, but he's not actually giving any evidence of that. It's all going to.
Rob Carson
Oh, dear God, are you kidding me?
Jeffrey Toobin
Because what they also said was, was if we have to go to Congress, we'll go to Congress.
Rob Carson
Right?
Jeffrey Toobin
But we'll show where some of the details that have come out, like the, you know, $59 million spent on luxury hotels, it's actually nothing but the FEMA money that was abused for migrants. There's a paper money for migrants, that's a paper trail. I'm not saying it, so I'm not saying it's okay.
Rob Carson
Don't put words. So.
Jeffrey Toobin
Would you stop that? Would you stop that process?
Rob Carson
Oh, now this is where Manderson Cooper, he said he called, he called Governor Sununu a D word for Richard. Richard. Yeah, yeah, like, you know, Dick Sargent on, on Bewitched, he was the good Darren. So there you go. There's that. Oh, oh, oh, we might as well do this now. Elon Musk is trolling everybody with a not safe for work name change that TV anchors must now reluctantly Say, this is so fantastic. This is like Bart Simpson, you know, Bart Simpson calling Mo the bartender and having him say a name like whatever. Anyway, here's, here's the new name he came up with. And, and here is, I believe this is Dana Bash having to say it.
Jeffrey Toobin
Good evening, thanks for joining us. We begin tonight.
Rob Carson
No, that's not it. That's not it. That's not it. Hold on a sec. Here it is. Here's Dana Bash having to say the new nickname that Elon Musk has come up with now.
Dana Bash
The disruptor in chief, Elon Musk, who apparently has adopted the alias. At least he changed his social media handle to Harry Bald.
Rob Carson
I think we need to hear that again for all of the guys in the audience who have the sense of humor of a 14 year old boy.
Dana Bash
Social media handle to Harry Balls tweeted this morning, democracy in America is being destroyed by judicial coup. An activist judge is not a real judge.
Rob Carson
Yeah. Let's say that I support hairy balls 100%. In fact, I, I would place Hairy Balls on a pat of crystal. To be quite honest. Harry Balls is doing a great job reaming out the federal government. Good job, Harry Balls.
Dana Bash
Take a deep breath for just a moment.
Rob Carson
Yes. And ponder Big Balls. Okay.
Jeffrey Toobin
Good evening, thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls.
Rob Carson
Big Balls. Big Balls.
Jeffrey Toobin
Big Balls who work for Elon Musk's so called Department of Government Efficiency.
Rob Carson
Does I have to play this? It's, it's part of the news cycle. In the one case of the Big Balls kid, a literal teenager balls online. I'm not getting any pleasure from, from saying this on the radio.
Dana Bash
Balls here that Katie's talking about a 19 year old that goes by the username Big Balls. So that would be one way that we could refer to him.
Jeffrey Toobin
Young computer whizzers Whizzes.
Rob Carson
The aforementioned Big Balls.
Dana Bash
Because who among us doesn't feel better about Big Balls?
Rob Carson
Big Balls.
Dana Bash
Big Balls in charge of American air traffic control.
Rob Carson
Yeah, I would actually not mind having Big Balls in the cocktail bit.
Dana Bash
Now the Disruptor in chief, Elon Musk, who apparently has adopted the alias. At least he changed his social media handle to Harry Balls. Tweeted this morning, democracy in America is being destroyed.
Rob Carson
You can thank me later. All right. I left out loud last night. I was in the studio just playing with. Never mind. I'm not. I was laughing out loud. My kids were like, what's going on? I'm playing Dana Bash. It's spectacular. It is spectacular. Oh, this is the Democrat Party. This is your Democrat Party. This is how illiterate they are. Yesterday they were out in front of the Capitol, you know, with a bunch of these paid protesters protesting the, you know, government employees who haven't gone to work for four years and the people who've spent all the money on, you know, get cutting checks, blank checks for Social Security and you know, all sorts of tens of billions of dollars going to usaid. And I got some stuff on the other side of this break that's going to blow you away about USAID. I mean, it is like paging Dr. Mengele. But yesterday they decided to drop the F bomb a whole bunch of times because this is how sophisticated these buffoons are.
Dana Bash
I just, I've been told, I have 30 seconds. So I am going to tell you that we do have to, I don't swear in public very well.
Rob Carson
We have to. Trump, please don't tell my children that I just did that. And I'll tell you, I'm from Jersey, so I look a little differently.
Dana Bash
I say, Trump, we are going to beat. I was going to say, but no, we're not. No, I'm not going to say that.
Rob Carson
Donald Trump and Elon Musk on the.
Newt Gingrich
Decay of American education. You had all these so called leaders were utterly, totally incapable of speaking in an understandable way. I mean, going around yelling curse words if you're an elected member of Congress is just stupid.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Newt Gingrich
And it tells you how much our education system has decayed.
Rob Carson
Yeah, yeah, it's a joke. Half the Democrat Party are illiterate. Honestly, if you look at statesmanship or whatever the past, they are an insult to it. Honestly, they are an insult to it. Then you see somebody like, you know, somebody like John F. John Kennedy, Ken Kennedy. John Kennedy is a great statesman. He's the king of colloquial. And listening to him, I can just listen to him. Oh my God in heaven. I can just listen to him talk. He's spectacular. He's an art, he's an artist with his words. And then you compare it with these idiots, these buffoons. Here is Newt Gingrich about the left and who they worship.
Newt Gingrich
There are two different things going on here with the Democrats. The first is they are watching with terror as all the different sources of government money that has propped them up for the last 60 or 70 years. All of it is now being challenged by President Trump and by Elon Musk. I mean, this cuts at the very base of their coalition. And if they can't bribe people, if they can't act Corruptly.
Rob Carson
They can't get people to vote for them with policy, so they buy them off.
Newt Gingrich
If they can't take care of their friends, their entire coalition is going to collapse.
Rob Carson
Yep.
Newt Gingrich
Second, you have a very large part of the Democratic Party for whom the beliefs you were describing, transgenderism, for example, are religious beliefs.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Newt Gingrich
This is a secular religion.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Newt Gingrich
They can't unlock because they believe these things. They believe in an open book.
Rob Carson
Abortion. Abortion is like a religion to them. Order.
Newt Gingrich
They believe that there really is no such thing as America. They believe that it's really good to have millions of people flood into this country. It's really good to have people who don't have to about worry, work, that work requirements are inherently bad. All of these things are a semi religious or religious belief system. And that's why they can't unlock.
Rob Carson
Absolutely. And why do they. And I played this yesterday. Why do the left bring these absurdities to the table?
Dana Bash
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like a big part of the whole left wing narrative that has, like, overlaid our country over the last, whatever, eight years, 10 years, is all propaganda funded by our own government. This is why Trump won the election. People don't really believe in these things. The amount of people that think that transgender biological males should be competing against your daughter in sports is so small. Yeah, but yet our own government was propping it up.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Joe Rogan
And why are they propping it up? Because it's a beach ball at a concert. You keep it tossing up in the air and everybody's distracted. As long as you can keep a few things going, here's the things you want to keep going. Abortion, Right?
Rob Carson
Yes.
Joe Rogan
Overtoning. Roe v. Wade is so great for business.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Because now it's like a battle. The battlegrounds. And women's rights and their lives are at stake. Okay, that's one. Gay marriage. That's a huge one.
Gordon Chang
They're.
Joe Rogan
Now they're gonna take away gay marriage.
Rob Carson
Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
Bounce that beach ball.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That's a gigantic one. War is a giant one. And all these different things are just beach balls. And they toss them around every now and again. And in the meanwhile, they're just.
Rob Carson
Just siphoning billions of dollars.
Joe Rogan
Zelensky just said he's missing a hundred billion dollars in the 177 billion that we supposed that was something.
Rob Carson
Wow. You get it now, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty crazy. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.
Jim Gossett
Yeah, I. I have high approval ratings because I'm, you know, I'm using common sense. Whether it's getting men out of women's sports. I mean, have you seen what goes on with the boxers and with the weightlifters and with the swimmers and everything's so ridiculous. And I think it's a 90% issue. And, you know, the amazing thing, the Democrats are still fighting for it. It's crazy. It's crazy. I think we should go to Congress, also have that cemented and, you know, make it indelible. But we. You know, it's. To me, it's all common sense. Who wants an open border where. Where prisons are dumped into our country, where prisoners are led into our country, many of whom are murderous, like, many of whom murdered far more than one person and they're now roaming our country? Who wants that? I mean, it's. It's terrible.
Rob Carson
Yeah, it's common sense. It's common sense. I said we got to make 2024 the year we turn from nonsense to common sense. And look, everybody's saying common sense now. Of course it was common sense. Dear Lord. And, hey, heaven. The. The. You know, the reason why I said that as a rallying cry was unlike a lot of people, I. I didn't think it was completely dead. I worried that it was dead. I worried that common sense had died in this country. I. I worried that shame had died. You know, shame had died. When a. When a man can compete as a man until his senior year in college, then become a woman who still dates women, and then go into their locker room and get his jellies off and then beat them at sports without any shame. That's. I mean, what the hell? So I was really worried because I've watched this descend for my entire broadcast career. I watched common sense and shame die. And fortunately, common sense is back. Hopefully, shame will be back, but it's not there for the Democrats. Democrats, they have no shame. They still have no shame. They don't have any shame. That's just the way it is. And I might add, they're also stupid. I think I should do this. I think I should do this. Ladies and gentlemen, who caught the stupid update? Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.
Dana Bash
People, people, people just playing stupid, stupid, stupid.
Rob Carson
Does Ms. Blue, who got stupid when you watch the Harpies from Hell? Gosh darn it, I did it again. I mean, the View, they sound a lot alike. I always slip up when I say that. That I'm just. I'm gonna talk about the View, and I accidentally say the Harpies from Hell show. You could see where I get, you know, messed up. It's like the city sheriff shot the city marshall. Be careful when you say that because you could say a poopy word on the air. So I apologize if I occasionally slip up and say the Harpies from hell show instead of the View, because they sound a lot alike. The stupid person of the day is Joy Behar. She says that Donald Trump wants to get the. The. Get the. Get rid of the penny because he's jealous of Abraham Lincoln.
Dana Bash
Trump has loyalty to no one. Look what he did to his first president.
Rob Carson
I mean, it's really.
Dana Bash
And he's jealous of everyone. Now he's getting rid of the penny. He's even jealous of Lincoln.
Rob Carson
Yeah, I mean, that's the. That's the audience from the view. Art, Art, Art. They're like trained seals, honestly. Wow. Just freaking wow. Just no shame at all. And also no intelligence. There are at least 15 active NIH grants paying for transgender animal experiments. This is what your Democrat Party is cool with. This is what they're catawaling against. Nobody has said this. They'll say, oh, yeah, Republicans want to take AIDS meds from whatever in wherever country. But they never say, oh yeah, we want a transgender children in Uganda. Or they never say that. 15 active NIH grants paying for transgender animal experience. All you lefties out there, who wheat when you see a puppy commercial with. With Sarah McLachlan in the arms of the angel playing. And I do, too. I do, too. But how about for kids? How about that? How about for kids? Oh, and then listen to this. So for all of you concerned about the welfare of animals, I want you to listen to this. This is Nancy Mace and. And this is some of the money that's been going to usaid.
Dana Bash
I recognize myself for the purpose of making an opening statement. Good afternoon. Late last year, the White Coat Waste Project exposed more than $10 million in taxpayer funds that were spent creating transgender mice, rats, and monkeys. These DEI grants funded painful and deadly transgender experiments that forced lab animals to undergo invasive surgeries and hormone therapies at universities across the country.
Rob Carson
Paging Dr. Mengele.
Dana Bash
For example, the Biden Harris administration spent 2.5 million taxpayer dollars, 2.5 million taxpayer dollars to study the fertility of transgender mice. Let that sink in. We spent over $2 million studying the fertility of transgender mice. $1.1 million was spent to find out if female rats receiving testosterone therapies to mimic transgender men were more likely to overdose. And on a party drug commonly used in the LGBTQ community to induce drug fueled, what's called, quote, chemsex. I asked my Staff. What, what was Chemsex and the chemical and I guess it's something called ghb, which is a date rape drug and also a drug that's used recreationally.
Rob Carson
You want to hear something really bad? Listen carefully to this. This is what your tax money was being spent on.
Nancy Mace
We're breeding hundreds of kittens every year and then flying to China and other foreign countries to these disgusting wet markets and buying dog and cat meat. They were then putting it in their federal employees. They were then putting it in their carry on luggage, flying it back to the United States and then force feeding dog and cat meat to kittens in this government laboratory in Maryland. They had spent $22 million on this project.
Rob Carson
For what purpose?
Nancy Mace
They wanted to know if people eating dog and cat meat in China might be exposed to a particular parasite that could be carried in dog and cat meat.
Rob Carson
Wow. There you go. That's why these government agencies need to be gutted. Gutted Done by Hasta la Vista. Welcome to the private sector. I'll have a large iced coffee and my date will have a non fat latte, no whip. Thank you. New Starbucks employees. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show Life. Hey guys, it's Carson for Prosper Wellness. Do your knees hurt? I know mine do. They feel like rusty old hinges. And I looked for a solution for years until I found this. They're called Joint Restore gummies. And I have to tell you that not only do they taste great, they work. My knees are almost like new and I'm moving and feeling better than I have in years. These delicious gummies have two powerful ingredients that radically reduce pain, pain and inflammation in your joints. One is the special CBD blend and the other is what some people are calling God's ibuprofen. You have to try it. If you're suffering from knee pain or any kind of joint pain, I want you to go to joint restore2.com that's joint restorethenumber2.com and check out these incredible testimonials. There are stories from people who have avoided joint replacement surgery like me and others who no longer need canes and Walkers Records. It's an incredible product. So please go to joint restore2.com right now and use promo code Rob. That's Rob. And get 20% off your order. I hate to do this, but let's have one.
Nancy Mace
But we're breeding hundreds of kittens every year and then flying to China and other foreign countries to these disgusting wet markets and buying dog and cat Meat. They were then putting it in their federal employees. They were then putting it in their carry on luggage, flying it back to the United States and then force feeding dog and cat meat to kittens in this government laboratory in Maryland. They had spent $22 million on this project.
Rob Carson
For what purpose?
Nancy Mace
They wanted to know if people eating dog and cat meat in China might be exposed to a particular parasite that could be carried in dog and cat. Me meat?
Rob Carson
Yeah. You know, you make one. Make sure that you cook your dog and cat meat to temperature. Maybe like a chicken breast. You want about 155 to 160, 15 animal active NIH grants paying for transgender animal experience. I know where NIH is. It's right there in Rockville off of 270. I used to drive by there and, and go to Dogfish Head right there. They had a wonderful campus. Their deer all over that campus. Why don't you just kill the deer? You got deer, all of that campus. They got volleyball, outdoor volleyball. It's like a hundred acre campus. Many of the transgender animal grants were coded with the NIH sexual and gender minorities categories. Category routinely used to route diversity, equity and inclusion grants would accounted for $373 million in 2023. Here's some of University of Michigan Ann Arbor. 225 $2.5 million turning mice transgender in a study there in Oregon. 9 million 700 spent on health and Science University to expand and improve knowledge of the development of neurobiological determinants of sexual partner preferences and orientation. Using domestic sheep as the experimental model. Well, you could just do that in the Middle east or in some farms in Arkansas. Let's see. Duke University mice were given sex changes through hormones and surgery to study HIV vaccinated induced immune response responses, among other things. University of Mississippi cross sex steroid therapy and cardiovascular risk in transgender females. When ratch rats were given sex changes in your wildest dream, you couldn't come up with that. Right? Right. Oh, it gets worse. Here's Low and Lauren Boebert yesterday. Because they didn't end it. Monkeys and kittens and stuff. Right? Are you. You might want to sit down for this one. Listen.
Dana Bash
Implant aborted baby parts into lab animals. Have you heard of that sort of research?
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Nancy Mace
We did an analysis a few years ago showing that over 90% of experiments with using human fetal tissue and putting them involved animals were funded by Fauci's Niad.
Dana Bash
Do you know where they're getting the aborted human fetal tissue?
Nancy Mace
A lot of it is happening at colleges and universities that have affiliate affiliated hospitals that perform that procedure.
Dana Bash
Madam Chair, I think we need to look into that as well.
Rob Carson
So, so college girls, I guess, who get knocked out but are desperate will go get to the hospital and get an abortion and they sell the fetal tissue. Any, any, any society that would embrace that. I mean, I am positively. I don't even know what to say about that. My God in heaven. My God in heaven.
Dana Bash
Implant aborted baby parts into lab animals. Have you heard of that sort of research?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Nancy Mace
We did an analysis a few years ago showing that over 90% of experiments with using human fetal tissue and putting them involved.
Rob Carson
This is monstrous.
Nancy Mace
Animals were funded by f. This is, this is monstrous. Niad.
Dana Bash
Do you know where they're getting the aborted human fetal tissue?
Nancy Mace
A lot of it is happening at colleges and universities that have affiliate affiliated hospitals that perform that procedure.
Dana Bash
Madam Chair, I think we need to look into that as well.
Rob Carson
I could have been one of those aborted fetuses. My mother was raped. Wow. I gotta tell you. Chicago Children's Hospital has put the brakes on so called gender care surgeries for young people. As President Donald Trump fights to Protect patients under 19 years of age from chemical and surgical mutilation. What the hell? What in the hell have we become? What have we become? We become Nazi Germany, for God's sake. Several families who have transgender or non binary children recently filed a lawsuit regarding his executive orders. Meanwhile, a young woman named Clementine Breen is suing a pair of California doctors for allegedly fast tracking her into a transgender surgery beginning when she was 12 years old by putting her on puberty blockers. When I say paging Dr. Mengele, I. It's not a throwaway line. Democrat AGs are telling doctors to defy Trump's order to keep giving sex change operations in places like California and New York because they are. I don't know if this lifetime, in this lifetime if they will awaken to what they're doing. I don't know if it'll happen in this lifetime. I hope it does. I hope it does. I hope hits them what they done. Because this is just ridiculous. Honestly. Really, really, really just. I don't, I don't. I don't even know what to say. It's so. I can't believe this is our country. I mean, my God, my God. This, this is why. This is why the left is so behind abortion. This is why the left is so behind abortion. This is why they said Roe v. Wade was going to cause all these back alley abortions. Oh, the Roe v. Wade Getting rid of was going to. And they made the most singularly powerful event in a woman's life. They moved it from the birth of the child, gestating and giving birth to a child to aborting that child. That was the most empowering moment that you could have as a woman is to abort that child. They did it. Tada. They did it. You think I'm fooling? Oh, no, no, no. I'm very serious. The most empowering and glorious part of being a woman is having a child, is giving birth to a child, feeling that child grow inside of you. I can't even imagine what it's like. I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to do it. But for those who've done it, it is such a profoundly beautiful moment. It's such a profoundly beautiful you. I remember when my son was in my wife's stomach. I would talk to him at night, and my daughter and I would say, hey, buddy, how are you? And I'd talk and I'd see his elbow move across her stomach, her.
Nancy Mace
Knee.
Rob Carson
Move across her stomach. And I knew that they heard my voice. And when he was born. I'm sorry, guys. When my son was born, they laid him on my wife's stomach and I said, hey, buddy, how are you? And he opened his eyes and looked at me. I didn't expect it to affect me like this. I apologize. I apologize. I did not expect this to affect me like this. Same goes to my daughter that she knew my voice. She knew my voice when she was born. And now, now they show. They show ultrasounds where babies smile when they hear their father's voices and their mother's voices. It's just we. And then the Democrats are, are, are. Are supporting. This is, Is just so sickening. My God, guys. My God. I mean, honestly, I hope that they recognize it in this life or. Or presumably in the afterlife when they're punished for it. You know, it is. It is just. I. I'm sorry. I did not expect it to get to me like it did, but it did. I loved being a father when they were little, I loved it. I changed most of the diapers. I was a toy. I let them ride around on me. I couldn't wait to pick them up every day from school. Every day from kindergarten through high school. I drove them to and from school, both of them. Two different schools going, two different schools coming back. An exception for riding the bus for a little while. My daughter in Maryland. But otherwise I drove them to school every day. I packed their lunch Every single day until my daughter wanted school lunch. Every single day. I realized every second of it. Every second of it. Oh, my God, I loved every second of it. I did songs about goofy stuff like changing diapers. I had a song, Poop, There It Is. Poop, There It Is. I had goofy songs. I had goofy songs. I loved it. I loved it. When I think about my father who left me when he was 7, I think about what he missed. He missed so much. He missed so much. And, and you missed so much if you know that baby is aborted. And I know it's very hard, and the thing is with women and abortion, and I didn't know I was going to get off on an abortion tangent here, but when you do an abortion, you're on your own. When you're, when you have an abortion, you're on your own. You are, you will be. You will be. Chances are. I don't know how it is now, but when I was in college, generally the, the irresponsible man involved, his father would say, I'll pay for the abortion. I'm sure some of that goes on. I'm sure some of that goes on. I'll pay for the abortion. I'll pay for the born. I'm not going to raise the kid, but I will pay for the abortion. And then a woman has that, that ungodly predicament that she is in. I don't have a way to pay for this. I don't know what I'm going to do. And then she goes to get an abortion. And when the abortions done, it's over. And our government chose to, after Roe v. Wade, go after the clinics where women would go to have the children. And there were people there who wanted her to have the children and love the child and either keep the child or give the child to a, to a family that would raise that child. And the government freaking went after the clinics to save the baby's life.
Dana Bash
Life.
Rob Carson
Do you understand now? Paging Dr. Mengele. Do you understand now? Because if you can do that to fetal tissue and rats in a lab, then you don't care if the baby is killed before it's born. This, this cannot continue. Any government, government or agency or NIH or NAID that does this and funds it without second thought. I mean, you think puppies and kitties are bad? Flying to China to buy dog and cat meat to feed to kittens? What the hell? Honestly. And if anything makes you realize what our money is going for, then my God, this year, Good. And, And I got to tell you, the people who are defending this, y' all can go straight to hell. You, you, Chuck Schumer, and you, Joy Reed, all of you, all of you who are fighting this, go to hell. Honestly, what is wrong with you? It's all, it's okay because you're a let them eat cake liberal and you survive the womb. And so you know what? Let's, let's get an abortion for those, those poor people of color. They honestly that that child be sentenced to a life of poverty. You don't want that child to live. Yeah. You don't want that baby. Oh, but me, I'm having a baby. Oh, we'll have a baby shower in our cul de sac in Rockville. Oh, God, it'll be so great. But thank. They're not there. Thank God they're not having babies in Northwest D.C. that's what it really is. And that's why abortion clinics are always on, you know, streets named after a civil rights leader. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Martin Luther King Boulevard, Malcolm X Boulevard. Guess there's a Planned Parenthood most probably on that street. It is. That's just the way it is. Margaret Sanger's dream come true. And now we know who's paying for it. I'm sorry. I felt like I needed to say that. I felt like I needed to say that. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. We got a showdown coming Saturday.
Jim Gossett
As far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at 12 o', clock, I think it's an appropriate time. I would say cancel it and all bets are off and let hell break out, I'd say they ought to be returned by 12 o' clock on Saturday. And if they're not returned, all of them, not in drips and drabs, not 2 and 1 and 3 and 4 and 2, Saturday at 12 o'.
Rob Carson
Clock.
Jim Gossett
And after that, I would say all hell is going to break out.
Rob Carson
There you go. And Hamas, who are not, are not known for their intelligence, are of course drawing a light in the sand. But they're going to get their, they're going to get their bleep kicked because Bibi is down with Donald Trump. He saying, yeah, you know what? Whatever, Trump, we'll do it, we'll do it, we'll do it. King Abdullah was in town yesterday of Jordan, and he wants to work with Donald Trump. Mr. President, I truly believe that with all the challenges that we have in the Middle east, that I finally see somebody that can take us across the finish line to bring stability, peace and prosperity to all of us in the region. And it is, I think, our collective of responsibility in the Middle east to continue to work with you, to support you to achieve those goals. So I'm very delighted to be here. And as you said, sir, we've got some very interesting discussions.
Jim Gossett
Very good, Very good. Thank you very much.
Rob Carson
There you go. I believe that Iran will fall in the next four years. I believe it because finally, Israel has a friend in Donald Trump. Here's a little comedy friend Israel has ever had in the White House. House from Jim G.
Jim Gossett
You got a friend in me.
Rob Carson
You got a friend in BB the greatest ally is real Z.
Jim Gossett
We'll work together good times and bad.
Rob Carson
That's why our enemies are so darn sad. Cause you, you call a friend in me?
Jim Gossett
You've got a friend in me. Bibi, that was great. You want to do another verse?
Rob Carson
By all means, Mr. President, go ahead.
Jim Gossett
I've got a friend in me.
Rob Carson
I.
Jim Gossett
Got a friend in Phoebe.
Rob Carson
We work together, that's what we do. There isn't any anything I wouldn't do for you. Partners for life, you know that it's true. Cause you got a friend in me.
Jim Gossett
You got a friend in me. That was fantastic. BB what song should we do next?
Rob Carson
You're my best friend. Thank you for being a friend.
Jim Gossett
Why can't we be friends?
Rob Carson
There you go.
Jim Gossett
The the theme from Friends. I got friends in low places.
Rob Carson
Jim Gossett, you can help him out. He's got a Patreon page. Patreon at Jim Gossert Comedy. Give him five bucks, ten bucks a month. You will get those songs after they they are on my show, emailed to you every day and you can share them with your friends and say, hey, I heard it on the Rob Carson show. He's really awesome. Perfect storm for Social Security and Medicare to hit a breaking point. The largest generation hitting retirement, a smaller workforce, smaller tax base. Uh, that's a pair that with our national debt. $36 trillion. What do you got? Well, you might want to shelter some of your money, you know. What are you doing to protect your family in the future? Well, gold is a safe haven in hard economic times. And Birch Gold is a company that I use. Birch Gold, they will help you transition an existing IRA, like I did with one that I have from car sales into gold. Doesn't cost you a penny out of pocket. You're going to talk to somebody who knows what they're talking about. A friendly conversation will give you an idea if it's gold or platinum or whatever, whatever. Just text my name Rob to 989-898. Get your free info kit on gold and a copy of the ultimate guide for Gold in the Trump Era with a forward by Donald Trump Jr. Text my name Rob to 989-898 today. You know our favorite jingle on the show is the Joe Biden Bidenomics update. And we can use it one more time because right now egg prices are going up because of Joe Biden. We're eating pickles from the dollar store. Dollar General chicken wings expired yesterday. Yeehaw.
Joe Rogan
We're eating pickles from the dollar store.
Rob Carson
Hot buckets from the Dollar General Ting expired yesterday. Here is Caroline Levitt to talk about egg prices.
Dana Bash
Really glad you brought this up because there is a lot of reporting out there that is putting the onus on this White House for the increased cost of eggs. I would like to point out to each and every one of you that in 2024, when Joe Biden was in the Oval Office or upstairs in the residents sleeping, I'm not so sure egg prices increased 65% in this country. And then we also have seen the cost of everything, not just eggs, bacon, groceries, gasoline, have increased the inflationary policies of the last administration. As far as the egg shortage, what's also contributing to that is that the Biden administration in the Department of Agriculture directed the mass killing of more than 100 million chickens, which has led to a lack of chicken supply in this country.
Rob Carson
There you go. And you may not hear that again. We will see. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. All right, it's time for me to get the heck out of here and turn it over to somebody else on your affiliate radio station. Make sure to check out the video podcast of the show, the live stream, go to Newsmax, Rumble X and Facebook pages, also the podcast at your usual podcast platforms all over the Interweb. In the meantime, God bless you, God bless America is founded, Donald Trump and his administration. And until tomorrow, don't catch the stupid. I'll see you then. Martha listens to her favorite band all the time. In the car, gym, even sleeping. So when they finally went on tour, Martha bundled her flight and hotel on Expedia to see them live. She saved so much, she got a seat close enough to actually see and hear them sort of. You were made to scream from the front row. We were made to quietly save you more Expedia made to travel. Savings vary and subject to availability Flight inclusive packages are atoll protected.
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Featured Guest: Gordon Chang (author, China expert)
Air Date: February 12, 2025
Format: Humorous and hard-hitting political talk, with commentary, parody, and guest interviews.
This episode dives into federal government waste, bureaucratic corruption, and media narratives around a so-called “constitutional crisis” following recent Trump administration spending audits and personnel cuts. The discussion is laced with Rob Carson's signature irreverence, parody, and Gen X humor. The second half features a detailed interview with China analyst Gordon Chang to dissect U.S.–China relations, the effectiveness of tariffs, and the perceived fragility of China’s economic and political systems under Xi Jinping. The episode closes with a mix of satirical segments, listener calls, political commentary, and sharp criticism of government-funded scientific experiments.
[00:03–15:53]
“They have too many employees and not enough work. So what they do is...they drag ass.”
— Rob Carson [07:27]
[13:03–16:38]
Astroturfed Protests:
Media Critique:
Elon Musk Name Parody:
“Social media handle to Harry Balls... I think we need to hear that again for all of the guys in the audience who have the sense of humor of a 14 year old boy.”
— Dana Bash read by Carson, [45:54]
[21:06–33:39]
Trump’s Unpredictability:
“Trump is unpredictable. And because of that, the Chinese have backed off.” — Gordon Chang [21:14]
Bipartisan Guilt:
China’s Fragility & Economic Risks:
Danger of Cornering China:
“No regime that has declared that its goal is to destroy the American public...should continue to be fueled by us.” — Gordon Chang [26:25]
Prospects for Regime Change in China:
Taiwan:
“Xi Jinping has put his fate into Donald Trump's hands.”
— Gordon Chang [25:06]
“There are waves...right now we are seeing people around the world and the US is inspiring this.”
— Gordon Chang [31:26]
[13:03, 17:24, 19:00, throughout]
[33:39–62:00]
“Just because you can’t say it in a sentence on CNN doesn’t mean there’s no evidence, you moron.”
— Rob Carson to Jeffrey Toobin [42:50]
[56:00–68:00]
“Any society that would embrace [this]...I am positively—I don't even know what to say about that. My God in heaven.” — Rob Carson [64:11]
[73:50–End (~79:00)]
This episode typifies Rob Carson’s blend of political commentary, aggressive satire, and emotional appeals for traditional values. Beyond his relentless skewering of progressive politicians, bureaucratic waste, and media groupthink, the conversation with Gordon Chang offers genuine insight on U.S.–China dynamics and the significance of tariffs, economic dependency, and political resistance in China. The episode’s latter third is a dense, jarring critique of government-funded experiments and policies that Carson finds ethically indefensible—offering listeners both a dose of gallows humor and pointed moral outrage.
For more, listen to the full episode on Newsmax, Rumble, or your favorite podcast platform.