The Rob Carson Show — Pt 2 (02/12/25)

Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Podcasts)
Featured Guest: Gordon Chang (author, China expert)
Air Date: February 12, 2025
Format: Humorous and hard-hitting political talk, with commentary, parody, and guest interviews.

Episode Overview

This episode dives into federal government waste, bureaucratic corruption, and media narratives around a so-called “constitutional crisis” following recent Trump administration spending audits and personnel cuts. The discussion is laced with Rob Carson's signature irreverence, parody, and Gen X humor. The second half features a detailed interview with China analyst Gordon Chang to dissect U.S.–China relations, the effectiveness of tariffs, and the perceived fragility of China’s economic and political systems under Xi Jinping. The episode closes with a mix of satirical segments, listener calls, political commentary, and sharp criticism of government-funded scientific experiments.

Key Segments and Takeaways

1. Federal Government Audits and “Constitutional Crisis” Hysteria

[00:03–15:53]

• Topic: Carson frames the hour around new federal audits—spearheaded by Elon Musk as “Doge” (Department of Government Efficiency)—that have uncovered rampant federal corruption, waste, and superfluous government employees, particularly in the D.C. area.
• Carson lambastes politicians and the media for framing the exposing of government waste as a “constitutional crisis,” using a parody montage of prominent commentators repeating the phrase for comedic effect:
  • “Crisis. The country has faced Constitutional crisis. Yeah, that's supposed to be a montage of people saying constitutional crisis.” — Rob Carson [03:54]
  • [04:00–04:30]: Heavy satire—comparisons to Gen X film (“Lost Boys”) and a vampire metaphor for entrenched politicians.
• Government Inefficiency Satire: Carson and guests poke fun at the federal government’s reliance on paper records, referencing a limestone mineshaft where all retirement paperwork is supposedly stored, and the comically slow processing of retirements.
  • “Have you guys heard of these things called computers?” — Rob Carson [07:01]

Notable Quote

“They have too many employees and not enough work. So what they do is...they drag ass.”
— Rob Carson [07:27]

Timestamps

• [03:40–03:54]: Constitution crisis media montage
• [06:14–07:13]: Detailed mockery of paper bureaucracy, mineshaft anecdotes
• [10:55]: Economic growth, deregulation, and how Musk says these could cut the deficit

2. Media, Protests, & Deep State Narratives

[13:03–16:38]

• Astroturfed Protests:

  • Carson and Joe Rogan discuss the performative nature of government worker protests, likening them to “Astroturf” events similar to Antifa or BLM, with paid participants more interested in preserving cushy government positions than genuine outrage.
  • “We're all being run off the cliff.” — Joe Rogan [14:19]

• Media Critique:

  • Rogan and Carson call out unified talking points and “state-controlled mainstream media”, reflecting public distrust of outlets like NYT, WashPost, CNN, and MSNBC.

• Elon Musk Name Parody:

  • Carson revels in the media having to say (on air) Musk’s new satirical handle “Harry Balls” and “Big Balls”, ridiculing their awkwardness.

Memorable Moment

“Social media handle to Harry Balls... I think we need to hear that again for all of the guys in the audience who have the sense of humor of a 14 year old boy.”
— Dana Bash read by Carson, [45:54]

Timestamps

• [15:01–15:53]: “They're shoveling dirt on their own casket” – decline of legacy media
• [16:19–16:38]: Rogan on NGOs and Astroturf protest funding

3. Interview: Gordon Chang on “Plan Red” & China’s Position

[21:06–33:39]

• Trump’s Unpredictability:

  • Chang says Trump’s return made the Chinese regime "back off" due to his unpredictability, contrasting Biden (deemed controllable).

    “Trump is unpredictable. And because of that, the Chinese have backed off.” — Gordon Chang [21:14]

  • Carson alleges the Bidens were “bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party.”

• Bipartisan Guilt:

  • Both liberals and conservatives are blamed for prior appeasement of China. Trump’s 2018 tariffs were the first significant disruption.
  • “Both parties at fault for this. Liberals and conservatives are both guilty.” — Gordon Chang [23:57]

• China’s Fragility & Economic Risks:

  • Carson claims China is a “paper tiger,” with an inflated image but underlying weaknesses (ghost cities, poor population).
  • Chang describes how new American tariffs could devastate China’s export-dependent economy, especially if mimicked by the EU & Japan.

• Danger of Cornering China:

  • Chang acknowledges the risk, but cites China’s ongoing “people’s war” against the U.S. via fentanyl and economic policy.

    “No regime that has declared that its goal is to destroy the American public...should continue to be fueled by us.” — Gordon Chang [26:25]

• Prospects for Regime Change in China:

  • Despite “near total surveillance,” Chinese society is volatile and could erupt, just as in the 2022 widespread protests. Economic pressure could stoke internal unrest.

• Taiwan:

  • Chang thinks invasion is off the table for now; Xi fears the military and the public’s opposition to war.

Notable Quotes

“Xi Jinping has put his fate into Donald Trump's hands.”
— Gordon Chang [25:06]

“There are waves...right now we are seeing people around the world and the US is inspiring this.”
— Gordon Chang [31:26]

Timestamps

• [21:06]: Gordon Chang joins
• [21:14]: Trump as “wrench” in China’s plans
• [25:06]: China’s vulnerability to tariffs
• [29:36]: Prospects for internal resistance in China
• [31:26]: Global pro-freedom momentum inspired by the US

4. Satire & Parody Interludes

[13:03, 17:24, 19:00, throughout]

• Government Protesters as “Woodstock Nursing Home”:
  • Carson plays protester audio and proposes this sarcastic band name for aging leftist demonstrators singing at government protests.
• Emmanuel Cleaver “Take Your Musty Money to the Moon”
  • A failed poetic jab at Elon Musk becomes a site gag for Carson, comparing it to “what makes the muskrat guard his musk?”

5. Listener Participation, Media Critique, and Government Spending Outrage

[33:39–62:00]

• Calls:
  • A listener compares Jamie Raskin to Adam Schiff, and Carson takes the opportunity for crude mockery of Raskin.
• Media & Government Accountability:
  • Extensive mocking of mainstream outlets, attempts to downplay evidence of government maleficence, and further examples like FEMA’s wasteful spending on luxury hotels for migrants.

Notable Quote

“Just because you can’t say it in a sentence on CNN doesn’t mean there’s no evidence, you moron.”
— Rob Carson to Jeffrey Toobin [42:50]

6. Government-Funded Animal and Fetal Research – Shock Segment

[56:00–68:00]

• NIH and USAID Grant Controversy:
  • Carson and Nancy Mace expose tens of millions in taxpayer dollars for controversial, ethically fraught experiments—like creating “transgender mice,” feeding kittens dog/cat meat bought in China to study parasites, or implanting aborted fetal tissue into animals.
  • “Paging Dr. Mengele” is repeated for shock value and condemnation.
  • Carson gets deeply emotional discussing abortion, parenthood, and the sanctity of life, contrasting government priorities to his own family experience.

Timestamps

• [56:00–61:13]: Grants for animal/fetal research, animal cruelty, accusations of eugenics
• [63:06]: Allegations of academic collaboration in sourcing fetal tissue

Memorable Moment

“Any society that would embrace [this]...I am positively—I don't even know what to say about that. My God in heaven.” — Rob Carson [64:11]

7. Closing Commentary, Satire & Listener Engagement

[73:50–End (~79:00)]

• Middle East Policy / Israel:
  • Brief clip of Trump’s hardline on hostages and bipartisan praise for U.S.–Israel relations, parody musical interlude (“You’ve Got a Friend in Me”).
• Economic Outlook:
  • Dire speculation about the solvency of Social Security and Medicare, push for gold as a safe investment, and criticism of Biden-era inflation, referencing rising egg prices.
• Show Wrap-Up:
  • Carson encourages listeners to subscribe to the podcast, offers parting shots at political opponents (“don’t catch the stupid”), and closes with an upbeat modulated message.

Legendary Quotes & Comic Moments

• “They're dragging ass, you know, oh, hey, we're eight hours and we gotta do one thing, rather than try to do three things.” — Rob Carson [07:27]
• “You can thank me later.” — Rob Carson after media is forced to say "Harry Balls" on-air [47:29]
• “This cannot continue... You, Chuck Schumer, you Joy Reid, all of you who are fighting this—go to hell.” — Rob Carson [71:32]

Noteworthy Timestamps & Segments

• [03:40] — Parody “constitutional crisis” montage
• [06:18] — Government paperwork/retirement mineshaft anecdote
• [15:01–15:53] — Joe Rogan analogy and condemnation of unified media narrative
• [21:06–33:39] — Gordon Chang in-depth interview (China/US relations)
• [45:46, 46:00, 46:35] — Satirical "Big Balls"/"Harry Balls" segment
• [57:03–61:13] — Nancy Mace on animal cruelty, taxpayer-funded experiments
• [63:06–68:00] — Carson’s impassioned anti-abortion commentary

Episode Tone

• Irreverent, brash, and often crude
• Skeptical, anti-establishment, populist
• Frequent blending of satire, parody, and sincere outrage

For New Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

This episode typifies Rob Carson’s blend of political commentary, aggressive satire, and emotional appeals for traditional values. Beyond his relentless skewering of progressive politicians, bureaucratic waste, and media groupthink, the conversation with Gordon Chang offers genuine insight on U.S.–China dynamics and the significance of tariffs, economic dependency, and political resistance in China. The episode’s latter third is a dense, jarring critique of government-funded experiments and policies that Carson finds ethically indefensible—offering listeners both a dose of gallows humor and pointed moral outrage.

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