Timmy, Ilhan & the Billion-Dollar Buffet

Summary

The Rob Carson Show – "Timmy, Ilhan & the Billion-Dollar Buffet"

Date: January 6, 2026
Host: Rob Carson | Guests: Newsmax reporters/correspondents, Jim Gossett, Scott Jennings, James Rosen, and others
Theme: Exposing large-scale fraud involving social service funding in Minnesota, alleged government corruption, the political fallout, and a broader look at government accountability and media.

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show humorously and sharply explores major alleged fraud and corruption scandals in Minnesota, focusing on the “Feeding Our Future” scam and associated abuses in childcare, assisted living, and refugee resettlement funding. Rob and guests discuss the political consequences, media response, and cultural impacts, using parody, discussion, and expert commentary. The episode also delves into related national issues, recent political developments, and the state of journalism.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Massive Social Service Fund Fraud in Minnesota

• All-Hands Government Response (00:20–00:52)

  • Breaking news on federal-level investigations into systemic fraud in Minnesota’s social services, with agencies like DHS, FBI, HHS, and USDA involved.
  • Major funding cuts: “Trump has cut off $10 billion in funding to for childcare, social, serious social services and other…because they just basically looted the treasury.”
    — Rob Carson (01:03)

• Explosive Allegations and Specifics (02:15–03:39)

  • Biden’s HHS spent $22.6 billion on grants for migrants (housing, cash, cars, etc.), while reportedly losing track of 32,000 migrant children.
  • Federal funding allegedly acted “as a giant magnet for illegal migrants.”
    — Newsmax Reporter (02:15)
  • “They use the COVID to usher in a massive increase in federal spending and then they looted the treasury and it was worse than I ever imagined.”
    — Rob Carson (02:51)
  • Funding freeze on programs: Child Care Development Fund (CCDF), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Social Services Block Grant.

• Local Impact in Minnesota (03:52–06:52)

  • Discussion over a sharp increase in illegal migrant population and Somali diaspora in MN, with accusations of entire communities benefiting from fraud.
  • Feeding Our Future fraud cited—federal prosecutors estimate $250 million stolen just from that scheme; some guests suggest up to $100 billion might be implicated statewide or nationally.

• Notable Quotes

  • “In my opinion, this is the worst fraud in human history. What is occurring in Minnesota and more specifically in the Twin Cities right now?”
    — Jim Gossett (06:19)
  • “Inside Minnesota over the years, I would say anywhere from $80 to $100 billion.”
    — Jim Gossett (06:44)

2. Political Fallout and Partisan Allegations

• Trump's Involvement and Responses (01:03–02:51; 13:08–13:50)

  • Trump’s freeze on multi-billion-dollar funding in response to fraud.
  • Strong criticism of MN Governor Tim Walz, AG Keith Ellison, and Rep. Ilhan Omar—with speculation about removals, prosecutions, or expulsions.

• Ballot Harvesting, Voting Blocs, and Political Leverage (06:52–08:53)

  • The Somali community’s political power and alleged election interference discussed.
  • “It’s a voting block. And what they say is if you do something to go against our community, we’re going to vote for your opponent unless you do what we tell you to do.”
    — Jim Gossett (07:30)

• Parody Song (15:34–16:47)

  • Satirical take on Governor Walz and AG Ellison set to the tune of "Folsom Prison Blues," lampooning their alleged involvement and calling for criminal consequences.

• Notable Quotes

  • “He's been done in by hubris. He's been done in by his inattentiveness to the fraud going on in his state. And he was done in by a YouTuber who did the job that the media wouldn't do.”
    — Jim Gossett (14:25)

3. Fraud Schemes: Feeding Our Future, Childcare and Assisted Living Centers

• Feeding Our Future Exposed (09:07–12:52)

  • Details of fraudulent meal programs, including video surveillance showing massively inflated meal counts that didn’t match reality.
  • Usage of random name generators for fictitious children on the meal rosters.
  • “You couldn't serve that many lunchables in a day.”
    — Rob Carson (10:14)
  • Audit reveals systemic incompetence and top-down failures in MN government.

• Assisted Living and Autism Services Fraud (16:47–19:13)

  • Assisted living facilities with explosive payment and population growth—fraudulent operators linked to Feeding Our Future continue to receive funding.
  • “These assisted living facilities received over $2.3 million in state money last year alone. …he has been paid a whopping $49 million since 2016.”
    — Newsmax Correspondent (18:32)

4. Media, Accountability, and American Institutions

• Media Critique, Journalism, and CBS News (34:45–38:45)

  • Rob and James Rosen discuss the lack of reporting on scandals like the Minnesota fraud and the Hunter Biden laptop, contrasting with historic standards at CBS News.
  • Rosen laments a decline in journalistic curiosity and the industry’s current challenges.

• Notable Exchange

  • “Let me ask you...Explain to me the lack of journalistic curiosity with regard to cases like Minnesota where…Now they're saying $9 billion possibly defrauded. Lack of journalistic curiosity by WCCO TV, the Star Tribune, Lack of journalistic curiosity on the Biden laptop.”
    — Rob Carson (35:37)
  • “...good reporters will be careful to limit what they have to say about subjects that they haven't really researched...Clearly the pandemic was a multifaceted, multidimensional…event, and sure, Democratic governors working with Democratic legislatures…change the laws…and all it proves is that elections have consequences.”
    — James Rosen (34:45–35:37)

5. Venezuela, Regime Change, and U.S. Foreign Policy (23:04–28:30)

• Discussion of Maduro’s Arrest and Oil Policy
  • News and analysis of U.S. arresting Venezuelan President Maduro and the power transition.
  • Examined as a possibly risky, “limited” regime change, drawing suspense about U.S. involvement and the potential fallout.
  • “We are left, as we must, to marvel at the extraordinary nature of President Trump and his power. This operation was extraordinary.”
    — James Rosen (28:19)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 01:03 | "Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, you’re gonna go to prison. Tim A you and and Keith Ellison are going to go to prison and Elhan Omar is going to get booted from Congress and then booted or rear end out of the country." | Rob Carson | | 06:19 | "In my opinion, this is the worst fraud in human history." | Jim Gossett | | 07:30 | "It’s a voting block ... we’re going to vote for your opponent unless you do what we tell you to do." | Jim Gossett | | 14:25 | "He's been done in by hubris ... and he was done in by a YouTuber who did the job that the media wouldn’t do." | Jim Gossett | | 10:14 | "You couldn't serve that many lunchables in a day." | Rob Carson | | 18:32 | "These assisted living facilities received over 2.3 million in state money last year alone ... paid a whopping 49 million since 2016." | Newsmax Correspondent | | 34:45 | "It sounds like they used the COVID pandemic as a way to usher in a massive increase in the size of government and then to effectively loot the treasury..." | Rob Carson | | 35:37 | "Explain to me the lack of journalistic curiosity..." | Rob Carson | | 28:19 | "We are left, as we must, to marvel at the extraordinary nature of President Trump and his power. This operation was extraordinary." | James Rosen |

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Segment Timestamps: Major Topics

• 00:20–02:52: Breaking news: government response to Minnesota fraud/funding freeze
• 02:52–06:52: Accusations against MN officials; Trump’s stance and guest discussion on fraudulent use of social service funds
• 06:52–08:53: Political ramifications; voting blocks and allegations of ballot harvesting
• 09:07–12:52: Feeding Our Future fraud details; fake meal claims; audit revelations
• 16:47–19:13: Assisted living/autism services fraud and ongoing misuse of state funds
• 21:21–23:28: Recap/newsmaker banter with James Rosen; on regime change in Venezuela
• 23:29–28:30: Analysis of Maduro’s arrest and its implications (with James Rosen)
• 34:45–38:09: Media accountability debate and CBS News critique

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Tone and Style

The conversation is pointed, irreverent, and laced with satire, parody (notably via musical parody), and direct criticism. Carson’s style is combative, humorous, and skeptical of Democratic politicians and mainstream media, while guests lend expert analysis and serious commentary.

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Takeaway

Rob Carson and his guests deliver a relentless critique of Minnesota’s governance, using the “Feeding Our Future” scandal as an anchor for broader arguments about government waste, media failures, and corruption. The episode blends investigation, parody, and punditry to challenge the official narrative around social spending and accountability, aiming both to inform and entertain.

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Transcript

[Rob Carson]

Hold it.

[Scott Jennings]

Now.

[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the.

[Rob Schmidt]

Most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world Wide web. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Newsmax Reporter]

And because of these new details and this new reporting that has come to life, this is a all hands on deck. Across across the entire government effort we are surging resources. You saw today the Department of Homeland Security announced we have nearly 2,000 agents from the Homeland Security Investigations team. The FBI is on the ground and we're freezing money. HHS cut off funding for childcare centers and for daycares. USDA Secretary Rollins has been asking Governor Walz to see the they even shut.

[Rob Carson]

Off the funding to leering centers recipients.

[Newsmax Reporter]

Of SNAP in his state. So this is all hands on deck. Rest assured it's a top priority for President Trump and he believes that Governor Walsh is criminally liable. I think the Department of Justice is going to find out.

[Rob Carson]

Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, you're gonna go to prison. Tim A you and and Keith Ellison are going to go to prison and Elon Omar is going to get booted from Congress and then booted or rear end out of the country. Should go back home and marry another brother or something. There you go. This is from Donald Trump on Truth Social. Minnesota's corrupt governor will possibly leave office before his term is up. I predict that too in any event will not be running again because he was caught red handed along with Elon o others his Somali friends stealing tens of billions of tax dollars. I feel certain the facts will come out and they will reveal a seriously unscrupulous and rich group of slime balls. Governor Vultz has destroyed the state of Minnesota. But others like Governor Gavin Newsom, J.B. pritzker, Kathy Hochul have done in my opinion, an even more dishonest and incompetent job. No one is above the law. This is pretty big. This is really, really, really, really big. And Donald Trump has cut off $10 billion in funding to for childcare, social, serious social services and other and other things because they just basically looted the treasury. Just looted the treasury. If you don't believe me, listen to this.

[Newsmax Reporter]

A new report has revealed that Joe Biden's HHS spent $22.6 billion in grants for migrants covering cars, home loans, cash, housing, health care and even money to start up businesses, all funded by American taxpayers. According to the report, the Office of Refugee Resettlement funded billions to non profit organizations acting as a quote, giant magnet for illegal migrants. All while losing track of 32,000 migrant kids. More than $12 billion went to unaccompanied minors even though reports exposed unvetted and abusive sponsors.

[Rob Carson]

Unbelievable. That's from Salem Communications. They hired, they hired Scott Jennings. They signed Scott Jennings over there. He's got a radio show. So do I. There you go. $10 billion cut off because what do they do? They use the, the, the COVID to usher in a massive increase in federal spending and then they looted the treasury and it was worse than I ever imagined. You may recall last year I correctly predicted all of this because, you know, I got common sense and life experience and whatnot. DHS will freeze taxpayer funding. Child Care Development Fund, ccdf. Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. No more Tampa's in boys room and I think the funding for that in Minnesota too. Bad news for boys who are on their period. The Trump administration cutting more than $10 billion in social services. CCDF funding block 2.4 billion affects all of the states involved here, including California. Another 869 million from the Social services block grant coffers being kept from five. Kristen Gillibrand, Democrat in New York, blasted the Trump administration decision. What do you suppose she said? Well, Trump wants to starve children. Duh. To use the power of the government to harm the neediest Americans. You know, you see all those needy Somalians driving Rolls Royces and Mercedes up there outside of their daycare centers that serve no children. Those poor people. This has nothing to do with the fraud. Listen to this. This has nothing to do with fraud and everything to do with political retribution that punishes poor children. Donald Trump is doing this to punish poor children. I demand that Trump unfreezes the funding to stop this brazen attack on our children. Oh my God, you people are freaking mentally ill. My God, you people are friggin mentally. About 130,000 illegal migrants resided in Minnesota as of 2023, an increase 40,000 from 2019 and roughly 2% of the state's population, according to Pew, Pew, Pew Research. The Somalian dysphoria, whatever that is. Did you ever have a dysphoria? I had that. I hear if you go to Somalia and you drink the water, you will end up with a whole mess of dysbora. And you better have a change of underwear anyway. Hundred thousand people up there in little Somalia. Federal prosecutors already secured dozens of convictions related to $250 million in funds stolen by the Feeding Our Future, which only fed the bank accounts of people there. And Elon Omar, she secured that funding. She's going to go to jail. I really. Well, or at least be booted out of the Congress in the country. DHS will freeze taxpayer funding from the child development. I told you that. Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. The TANF program, Social Services block grant program. First assistant minutes. First Assistant Minnesota U.S. attorney Joe Thompson claimed fraudsters. Fraudsters skimmed as much as $9 billion. $9 billion. And it's even bigger in other states around the country. They're saying maybe $100 billion. Here's Nick Shirley and his buddy David. They're the guys who did the. And they got another video coming out here. They are talking about the scope and the possibility and the dollar amount that may be involved. Just in Minnesota alone.

[Rob Schmidt]

There's a lot of fraud happening here in Minnesota. You've been living here for years now.

[Rob Carson]

How bad is this fraud?

[Jim Gossett]

So I was born in Minneapolis a long time ago. I've lived my whole life here. And my opinion is that this is the worst fraud in human history. What is occurring in Minnesota and more specifically in the Twin Cities right now?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Rob Schmidt]

How much money do you think has.

[Rob Carson]

Been sent around fraudulently here? There's no way. Tim Waltz didn't know anything about it.

[Jim Gossett]

Inside Minnesota over the years, I would say anywhere from 80 to $100 billion.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. It's only going to get bigger in California. And they all knew about this. These reports have been going on. I got some reports from Fox 19 in Minnesota. In Minnesota, in just a second. But there's also this, this whole ballot harvesting going on in Minnesota. And this is where it ties into the Democrat Party because they're afraid of the Somalians. And if they give the Somalians all of this, then the Somalians will vote slavishly. That's racist. No, it's not slavishly Democrat here.

[Jim Gossett]

And it's way beyond anybody's imagination. The total amount, the state doesn't even know. The feds don't even know.

[James Rosen]

And so, for instance, why would that.

[Rob Schmidt]

Judge bow down to the head of.

[James Rosen]

The Somali mafia here?

[Jim Gossett]

What I can tell you is that it's a voting block. And what they say is if you do something to go against our community, we're going to vote for. And they all vote together and there's ballot harvesting. I've seen them do it. Yeah, that we're going to vote for your opponent unless you do what we tell you to do.

[Rob Schmidt]

And so they're all purely for votes.

[Jim Gossett]

Yes.

[Rob Carson]

And so that is crazy. That is just crazy. And. And Elon Musk kind of predicted all of this. He was in charge of Doge. He started to undercover this and Then of course, they sent out a bunch of protesters across the country with signs that all read the same thing. And they said that he was a Nazi. And then they started burning his cars. And then, you know, they were attacking people for just owning Teslas. And then all that went away. Apparently he was no longer a Nazi when he left the government. The single biggest thing that they're, that they're worried about is Doge is going.

[Newsmax Correspondent]

To turn off fraudulent payments of entitlements.

[James Rosen]

I mean, everything from Social Security, Medicare.

[Rob Carson]

You know, unemployment, disability, Small Business Administration.

[Newsmax Correspondent]

Loans, turn them off to illegals. This is the crux of the matter.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, he's been saying that for a while and everybody knows about it. This is why the Democrat Party wants to keep the National Guard and the federal authorities out of Democrat enclaves like Chicago. DHS are on the ground in Minnesota right now. They're going door to door at Somali daycare centers. Oh, my God, what a glorious day.

[Newsmax Reporter]

They say they see these daycare centers, adult daycare centers, autism centers, home health care centers all over the place. So that's why DHS has to be here, Dana, to knock on these doors and say, you've received this much money. What did you do with it? So we'll keep an eye on it.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, there you go. I love it. And maybe old Tampon Timmy is going to go to jail as well. And he. I believe he will. This is Fox 19 in Minneapolis talking about feeding our future. Feeding our future. They took, they said that their restaurants, these Somali owned restaurants were making hundreds of thousands of meals every day for all these starving kids. You never saw the starving kids. You never saw any of the kids standing out in line. You never saw the meals being made or anything. And then they had these just extraordinarily high meal numbers that no restaurant could produce in a single day.

[Fox 19 Reporter]

In December of 2021, the FBI installed a surveillance camera overlooking this.

[Rob Carson]

And I guess Tim Waltz didn't know.

[Fox 19 Reporter]

Anything about this building just off Lake street in Minneapolis at the time it was SAF Restaurant, which overall took in $12 million in federal child meal payments. Through Feeding Our Future. Safari's former co owner Salim Saeed is on trial alongside Amy Bach, the Feeding Our Future executive director. Safari claimed to feed four to 6,000 kids a day.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, one restaurant, sure.

[Fox 19 Reporter]

Invoices and meal counts shown to the jury alongside the video and FBI.

[Rob Carson]

You couldn't serve that many lunchables in a day.

[Fox 19 Reporter]

Agent testifying that an average of 40 people came and went during the six weeks it was surveilled. The FBI set up a total of 12 cameras at sites claiming to serve extraordinary numbers of meals. Another was at a Deli in St. Paul also registered by defendant Saleem Said, which claimed 1800 meals per day. The video shown to the jury showed an average of 23 people a day coming and going.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, by the way, our stream is experiencing some difficulties. Our stream is weak like Joe Biden's at 2 in the morning. Here's a little bit more from the report from Fox News in in Minneapolis. They knew about it, but apparently Keith Ellison decided not to look at it.

[Fox 19 Reporter]

The jury was shown dozens of invoices, meal counts and emails seized from Feeding Our futures headquarters in St. Anthony. Some showed links to websites that randomly generated names and ages to create rosters of children who were served meals. Many were signed or sent by Amy B. Charged with wire fraud along with bribery for the alleged two years ago kickbacks that she received. Her defense attorney tried to raise doubt when it cross examined the FBI and that they didn't see the back entrance where it's possible meals left packed in trucks for delivery. He pushed back, insisting they'd still see congestion to that volume. He said, I would say it wouldn't any sense.

[Scott Jennings]

That case became one of the biggest Covid era frauds in America. And the kicker, Minnesota's own Department of Education had red flags. Yeah, massive spikes in reimbursement requests. Impossible, impossible meal counts. And they still rubber stamped the paperwork.

[Rob Carson]

And it all went to the top.

[Scott Jennings]

Now this new audit proves what everyone with a brain has been saying for years. Yeah, incompetence starts at the top when the governor's own office. Oh, it's fraud is sloppy with receipts.

[Rob Carson]

Sure.

[Scott Jennings]

How can he possibly keep his agencies in line? Republican Senate leader Mark Johnson said it perfectly. Quote, sloppy accountability at the top breeds waste and abuse everywhere else. And he's right about that. You cannot preach fiscal responsibility when you are overpaying employees, losing state property and mismanaging vendor payments. And it's not just the Feeding Our Future mess. We've also got the Autism services fraud case, another multimillion dollar scam in the same state involving clinics billing for therapy that never happened. And to make it worse, some of those same providers were linked to the Feeding Our Future network. It's the same pattern, inflated invoices.

[Rob Carson]

And by the way, the, the UN Ambassador from Somalia was involved too. We've got more on this coming up. Let's take a break. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Rob Schmidt]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Scott Jennings]

Poor little Democrats.

[Rob Carson]

Are you guys okay today that I came in to check on you? Every time Trump does something good, you guys spaz out. Yeah, you guys shut up.

[Scott Jennings]

And.

[Rob Carson]

Metallica followed by Rob Finnerty and Scott Jennings. So great he's not running.

[Jim Gossett]

Were you surprised that he didn't resign today? Not surprised he didn't resign. I mean, I think it's hard for politicians sometimes to come to grips with the idea that they've been caught. But this guy's been caught.

[Rob Carson]

Him runs.

[Jim Gossett]

I mean, let's be honest. He knows that not what's been uncovered is bad, but what is yet to come is likely even worse.

[Rob Carson]

He's got a wish. He had one of those bunkers that Maduro tried to get to.

[Jim Gossett]

That is why he is not running for reelection. He's been done in by hubris. He's been done in by his inattentiveness to the fraud going on in his state. And he was done in by a YouTuber who did the job that the media wouldn't do.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, absolutely. And there's no doubt about it, it is massive fraud perpetrated by Democrats around the country in Democrat states. By the way, this going out on the interweb. According to redstate.com you know, Michael Byrd, the. The police officer who murdered, murdered, murdered Ashley Babbitt five years ago today. Apparently, he and his wife had an unaccredited daycare center that was federally funded. Records show U.S. capitol Police Michael by who fatally murdered unarmed January 6th protester Ashley Babbitt, without warning, has been running an unaccredited daycare center with his wife, Caleska in their home in Maryland. Wow. I gotta tell you. And by the way, if you want to see my thoughts on January 6th, the American Reichstag, go to my social media, including LinkedIn. Just look up Rob Carson's show. How about that? How about that? It's pretty good. You should watch it. It's true, too.

[Rob Schmidt]

Tim Walsh is not running. It was Just announced Tim new daddy. He had no chance. He surely would get trounced. And he ought to be in prison.

[Rob Carson]

He's gotta be.

[Rob Schmidt]

And Keith Ellison too. 20 years in the slam.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, that'd be fun.

[Rob Schmidt]

Both of them should do. He let fraud run rampant. A finger didn't lift.

[Rob Carson]

Nope.

[Rob Schmidt]

In the state of Minnesota, it's caused quite a rift. They want Tim in prison for a long.

[Rob Carson]

Give him a life sentence. It'd be about maybe 15 years in his case.

[Rob Schmidt]

And punish Elon Omar for each and every crime. When he was just a baby, his mama told him, Tim death. One day you will find yourself way out on a limb. They'll lock you up in prison. Yeah, baby should be your biggest fear. And when they throw you in there, no one will shed a tear.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Jim Gassy. Want to help him out in the new year? Just go to patreon.com Jim Gossett comedy He's a freaking genius, man. He's just. He's a genius, man. There you go. So, yeah. Patreon.com Jim Gossett comedy and it goes on. News Nation did a report about Minneapolis assisted living facilities. And by the way, all the family who took a part of this, all of these families who signed up their kids for cash payments saying their kids had autism, they ought to be sent the hell out of the damned country back to Somalia. Don't let the door hit you on the butt. I know they don't have doors over there in Somalia because, you know, they don't have windows and they live in mud huts because it's the. It's the meth lab trailer park of the world.

[Newsmax Correspondent]

This may look like your typical single family home, but it bills itself as an assisted living facility.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah.

[Newsmax Correspondent]

And it receives a lot of taxpayer money. Here in Minnesota, the number of people getting help in assisted living facilities is up double the growth of other programs.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Newsmax Correspondent]

But here's the kicker. The rate of payment in this assisted living space is 10 to 15 times the growth in other programs. So we pulled the data on assisted living facilities in the Minneapolis area. Minneapolis, as you might expect, has a lot. 169. St. Paul with a population of 307,000. How many has 83?

[Rob Carson]

What?

[Newsmax Correspondent]

But Brooklyn Center, 30,000 population has 106. And Brooklyn park, population of 84,000, has 181 more than Minneapolis, a city five times its size. But this assisted living facility puts this all in perspective. It's owned by a man indicted for laundering a million dollars in the feeding.

[Rob Carson]

Our future scam yeah, and Keith Ellison didn't see it. That's why Keith Ellison's being all sorts of quiet now.

[Newsmax Correspondent]

These assisted living facilities received over 2.3 million in state money last year alone. A Minnesota Reformer article says he has been paid a whopping 49 million since 2016. How is it possible that this person who's been indicted in Feeding Our Future also is still collecting checks from the state running these assisted living centers with his wife?

[Newsmax Reporter]

I honestly have no idea. It seems like the most basic due diligence would have been to run a check of all the people indicted and Feeding Our Future and then make sure they're not getting paid from other state programs. And at least in this case, and I've heard perhaps in others, they didn't do that.

[Rob Carson]

And Keith Ellison, he actually admitted and there's, he's caught on tape saying that he would kill any investigation with regard to these facilities. And Democrats got campaign cash from all of them. And the DHS is on the ground in Minnesota. And I want to see people perp lock hands behind their backs, including Timmy. Timmy. Coming up, James Rosen White no. Washington, D.C. chief correspondent for Newsmax. Don't go anywhere. My nightly ritual now is a little ice, a little vanilla yogurt, banana, a little milk and a scoop of chocolate brownie beans. Dream Powder in the blender. A little while later, I hit the sack and I sleep until sunrise. It's amazing. These days, everything moves so fast and it certainly can mess with your sleep schedule. That's why I'm here to tell you about Beam's Dream Powder. It's a healthy nighttime blend packed with science backed ingredients shown to improve sleep so you can wake up refreshed and ready to take on the day. Dream is made with a powerful blend of all natural ingredients including Reishi, magnesium, L theanine, apigenin and melatonin. I've been using Beam's Dream Powder for a year now and I can honestly say I feel sharper, calmer and more focused. And I'm not alone. Beam has improved over 28 million nights of sleep for people across the country. So if you've been waiting for the right time to try Dream, this is it. Go to shopbeam.com newsmax use code newsmax and take advantage of my exclusive offer. For 40% off, you can get their best selling Dream powder for just $39. So seriously, think about it. Go to shopbeam.com newsmax today. Get back Loretto whoever. Loretto is. Joining us on the Newsmax hotline. First time in 2026, Washington, D.C. bureau chief for Newsmax. The one, the only, James Rosen. How are you doing, my friend?

[James Rosen]

You know, they teach you in broadcast school, Rob, never to correct the anchor unless absolutely necessary. And we begin this New Year with Loretta.

[Rob Carson]

What did I do? What did I do?

[James Rosen]

I am not the Washington Bureau Chief. As a matter of fact, yesterday, for the first time, Newsmax had a Washington Bureau Chief. With the arrival here of our colleague, formerly of the Daily Caller News Foundation, Adele Malpacit, Washington Bureau Chief. Okay, who are you Max has ever had.

[Rob Carson]

What are you then?

[James Rosen]

Chief Washington correspondent. All of these things matter terribly.

[Rob Carson]

I thought you were gonna correct me on Loretto.

[James Rosen]

It's actually Loretta that. Oh, it's Loretta I wanted to get to.

[Rob Carson]

But didn't he say Loretto?

[James Rosen]

It's Loretta, but he said Loretto.

[Rob Carson]

It sounds like Loretto.

[James Rosen]

This is easily documented, my friend.

[Rob Carson]

Queue it up, Brian. Queue it up, man. So how's. Did you. Did you get the flu that's been going around here?

[James Rosen]

No, I have remained.

[Rob Carson]

Neither have I. Dude.

[James Rosen]

Illness free this holiday season, you know. Happy New Year to you, Rob. It's a great pleasure to be back with you. And there's so much happening right now. Right?

[Rob Carson]

There is. There is. Did you. One other thing. One other superfluous conversation starter. Did you make it to see the light show at the Washington Monument that ended last night?

[James Rosen]

You know, I didn't, unfortunately. And. But I've seen some incredible photographs and it was such a creative and smart idea.

[Rob Carson]

It was fun.

[James Rosen]

Although, you know, if you looked at what the Vatican did for New Year's and also what China did for New Year's.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[James Rosen]

You know, the new Vogue firecrackers are so 20th century fireworks.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[James Rosen]

Now, the new thing is to have a drone show. These enormous drone shows.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, it's kind of cool. Well, there's a lot of stuff planned for the 250th year. I think it's gonna be a great time to live in the D.C. area and in Americ. Americans in general.

[James Rosen]

You remember, as I do the bicentennial.

[Rob Carson]

I do.

[James Rosen]

Six being a big deal, right?

[Rob Carson]

I do now. It's the. Well, they would call it the non binary centennial. Wouldn't be a bicentennial. Be a non binary centennial is what they call it today.

[James Rosen]

You can choose what number you're observing. It doesn't matter.

[Rob Carson]

All right, so let's talk about Maduro. The arrest of Maduro by. By the Trump administration going in. There was a bounty on him. There are charges against him. He was a. He was a wanted man and they did not change the regime because the person next in charge is the vice president. What are your thoughts on the Democrats saying that it was about regime change and oil and it was a war?

[James Rosen]

Well, it's kind of a modified, limited version of regime change I covered. I remember traveling when I was with Fox News to Iraq with then Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who was a longtime CIA guy and who worked under both presidents from both parties, and he was serving as defense secretary under Barack Obama in 2010. We did an interview in Baghdad and I asked him, given the American experience in Iraq, should the concept of regime change be permanently discredited as a tool of U.S. foreign policy? And he paused for a moment, kind of chuckled. He said, well, certainly the bar has been much higher now, but we appear to have reached that bar. There is regime change that has taken place over the weekend in Venezuela insofar as the head of the country was not, in literal terms, but figurative terms, decapitated from the rest of the government and brought to the United States to face criminal charges. Yes, the regime changes, sure. And of course, from President Trump's news conference in Palm beach, we heard that the regime in Venezuela is going to change its orientation in order to facilitate his new vision for the country and the refurbishment of the oil infrastructure, et cetera. There was not a full scale invasion. There was not or occupation, and there was not sort of what we saw back. The de Baathification. According to published reports, the U.S. intelligence Community assessed that the woman who has been serving as Maduro's vice president for the last seven and a half years, Delsey Rodriguez, would be better positioned to implement the Trumpian vision here than the opposition leader who by all accounts won last year's elections and has been in exile and who received the Nobel Peace Prize and who last night offered to give that to President Trump, Maria Corina Machado. Yeah, so the U.S. intelligence said, Our best horse right now, so to speak, is president, who's now been elevated to president. But for Del Rodriguez in Venezuela, in Caracas again, someone who has spent seven and a half years as Maduro's number two. According to some accounts, she oversaw the intelligence service, some of the torture practices. So her task, now almost impossible on its face, is to unravel decades of partnerships and alliances that she and Maduro forged, employed, enjoyed and depended on with narco terrorists and a raft of foreign actors that are hostile to the United States. We'll see if she can pull it off.

[Rob Carson]

Well, my immediate thought was, and I don't it wasn't Machado who was elected. It was her party that won the election, if I'm not mistaken. But it, but it would seem to make sense since the election were stolen, that the, the winning candidate and the party would be ushered in. But again, the, the, the, the, the Trump administration is doing its involved to keep this at what it was, which was a police action to arrest someone who was on the wanted list for crimes against the United States.

[James Rosen]

Now, you look history and it wouldn't be difficult to conjure any number of scenarios unfolding in the weeks ahead, none of them welcome and all of them carrying the potential for great peril for President Trump, his administration and his party as we head into midterm election. So, for example, obviously there are many Maduro loyalists left in the government and throughout Venezuela. That would be the natural feeding bed of an insurgency. It's entirely realistic to imagine that we will see the sabotage conducted at a permanent oil installation. God forbid, but quite plausible. The assassination of an American or one of the members, the group, the vague group that President Trump alluded to on Saturday. That will be all to run Venezuela in tandem with President Rodriguez. There's any number of ways this can start to haywire. And as Colin Powell famously said in the Bush era, you forget you've bought it. This will become President Trump's issue. But for now, we are left, as we must, to marvel at the extraordinary nature of President Trump and his power. This operation was extraordinary.

[Rob Carson]

I know.

[James Rosen]

I think we have seen, certainly in my lifetime, a president so unapologetic in his willingness to wield power both abroad and at home.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, he does that kind of, you know, in the old timey Western when they shoot the gun and they tip the gun up and they blow the smoke off the barrel. That's Donald Trump's approach to diplomacy. But I will tell you, the new, the new Venezuelan leader has ordered secret police to hunt Trump collaborators. And there were people out with guns in Caracas and they were trying to round people up. So Donald Trump has already told the new leader of Venezuela fafo. And so it is, it is not an easy, easily figured out scenario here. But, yeah, again, kudos to the, the military operation. James Rosen, can you hold on for the next break? There's much more to cover, including Minnesot. Can you do that?

[James Rosen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rob Carson]

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[James Rosen]

To the bottom of the lyrics of Get Back which was issued in 1969. Yes, yes.

[Rob Carson]

Are you going to do a book about the Beatles?

[James Rosen]

I have laid a lot of groundwork for it.

[Rob Carson]

Okay.

[James Rosen]

I've got another book on two more books on Scalia to do and some other projects. But I sold all of my printed literature about the Beatles which reflected an insane quest on my part to try to collect every interview they ever gave. And even some very obscure Northwestern University Ziering Library where that collection now resides, along with my German collection.

[Rob Carson]

That is, that's, that's impressive. I do have, and I literally mean this, I've got it. I moved it here from Kansas City. It is a, a magazine, a tabloid about John Lennon's assassination from 1980. And I held onto it and I, I would like you to have it.

[James Rosen]

I Would love to have it. I think we both recognize that it would have a better home with me.

[Rob Carson]

Me. I think it would. I. I was always an Elvis guy. I was. Yeah, of course. Because right now it's in a bunch of, you know, Rob memorabilia in the bottom of a trunk. But I'll, I'll get you, I'll get you a copy of it. But I was always an Elvis. I'm just insane Elvis fan.

[James Rosen]

My wife watched the Facility last night. Oh, okay.

[Rob Carson]

I have not watched. Is it good?

[James Rosen]

What I saw of it was a pretty good depiction of Elvis in terms of mannerism and sound of his voice.

[Rob Carson]

All right, well, the Elvis movie, the Baz Luhrmann was, was pretty good. Was pretty good. And it gave me a new perspective on Colonel Tom Parker. I've had agents like that. By the way, there was recently a.

[James Rosen]

New book published by the definitive biographer was Press Grill Marcus, I think with a who I think did a two volume biography of Elvis that is considered definitive. And then last year he published a biography of Tom Parker in which he sought to dispel the myth surrounding Colonel Tom Parker.

[Rob Carson]

By the way, off off topic, I saw the bio. It's technically, it was a, it was a. Not a biopic, but it was a true story based on a true story. Amazing. Marty, when I was on break, that was an exceptional movie. Have you seen that?

[James Rosen]

I have not. But it occurred to me, Rob, that I've used so much of my, my time, my precious time on your show to promote other people's books and movies. And I should be talking about the book that I have coming out on February 10, which is for pre order now on Amazon and all other places where you buy fine books. And this is volume two of my three volume biography of Antonin Scalia that comes out February 10th. This covers the first half of his Supreme Court years and there's a lot of fun things. And the 10th anniversary of justice Antony Scalia's really shocking death comes around on February 13th of 2020.

[Rob Carson]

Well, your writing is impeccable. And in your, you know, obviously your, your speaking ability makes me look like a piker. I'll just, I'll just put it that way. I, I can only aspire to be as well spoken as you.

[James Rosen]

But I'm not a bad thing to be, right? I mean, no good honorable pikers.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, yes, we do. So the, the HHS Biden's massive child's care child care scheme apparently involved states paying providers without verifying attendance. It sounds like they use the, the COVID pandemic as a way to usher in a massive increase in the size of government and then to effectively loot the treasury in Democrat states by giving largess to people of questionable citizenship.

[James Rosen]

There's an awful lot there. As Justice Scalia himself once said, the beginning of wisdom is the recognition of how little you actually know. And good reporters will be careful to limit what they have to say about subjects that they haven't really researched. And I tell you that I am prepared to endorse such sweeping claims about what unfolded during the pandemic. Clearly, the pandemic was a multifaceted, multidimensional, once in a lifetime event, hope once in a lifetime event. And sure, Democratic governors working with Democratic legislatures were able to change the laws and the rules that were accepted for voting for ballots, all sorts of things. And all it proves is that elections have consequences. So that if you were bothered by that as a Republican, next time make sure your governor.

[Rob Carson]

Let me ask you this though. What Explain to me the lack of journalistic curiosity with regard to cases like Minnesota where Now they're saying 9 billion possibly defrauded. Lack of journalistic curiosity by WCCO TV, the Star Tribune, Lack of journalistic curiosity on the Biden laptop. You are a journalist, James. You are excellent what you do. Please explain to me because and also we'll segue into this CBS relaunched, acknowledging the folly of the left leaning letter networks with missing stories and lacking journalistic curiosity. Your thoughts?

[James Rosen]

Again, I can't say that I have studied what WCCO or the Minnesota news media have or have not reported date on the activities of the Somali community and so forth in terms of.

[Rob Carson]

I.

[James Rosen]

Guess the relaunch of CBS News. You know, I was very fascinated with CBS News as a young person. I read all the books that were coming out with titles like Bad Days, Blackrock, Inside for CBS News sort of things. And you know, I was very interested in the transition from Walter Cronkite to Dan Rather. And I became a huge fan of Dan Rather. And I eventually got to work for Dan Rather, although I worked then, I did not work for cbs and I got to spend some time around CBS News and make extensive use of their library, which was quite an extraordinary research institution unto itself right there at 524 W. 57th St. In Midtown Manhattan. So I'm steeped in the lore of CBS News. I even reviewed Roger Mudd's memoir for the Washington Post.

[Rob Carson]

I think in wow, look at you. You got a hell of a resume.

[James Rosen]

I care about all that. And CBS News was a great institution and had A coverage and a span around the globe that NBC News and ABC News at that point in the 60s and 70s couldn't match. And so now we come to a moment where this fellow, I don't know how to pronounce his last name. Tony, forgive me for mangling that.

[Rob Carson]

That's right. That's right.

[James Rosen]

He's rebuked internally at CBS News for conducting a sort of robust and spirited interview with an African American author. And ultimately all the people that rebuked him and threatened his livelihood over what was a very fair and journalistically rigorous interview were forced out. And now we have new leadership there. And Tony is the new anchor of the CBS Evening News.

[Rob Carson]

I'll be interested to see what it does if it's too late because most people don't trust the letter networks anymore after missing so many stories. Dan Rather, of course, involved in, you know, fibbing about George W. Bush, lying about a font that wasn't used in, in a time that he said story wrong.

[James Rosen]

But Dan, and I still revere Dan Rather. Touch with Dan Rather. What? Dan's great, if you ask me. His, his great transcription, all of that was not simply retracting the story he maintained and still does. That couldn't prove the story, but I believe the story to be true.

[Rob Carson]

All right, we gotta go. Your book again is available on the.

[James Rosen]

12Th of February, 10th of February on Amazon. Supreme Court years 1986 to 2001.

[Rob Carson]

All right. Tell your wife Loretta I said hi. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Garson Show. See you bud. News here at 6. Federal agents charged a second Georgia lawmaker.

[Jim Gossett]

But defrauding taxpayers through pandemic unemployment insurance. A grand jury inducted indicted Stone Mountain Democrat Karen Bennett. Prosecutors allege she obtained unemployment benefits for.

[Rob Carson]

Employees even though her business remained open through the pandemic.

[Jim Gossett]

Bennett becomes the second Georgia lawmaker arrested on pandemic related fraud charges. A grand jury also indicted Covington Democrat Sharon Henderson.

[Rob Carson]

That is in the state of Georgia, the Democrat Party is the largest organized crime family in world history, taking trillions of dollars. That's just the way it is. It's got to be discovered. I'm not a journalist like James Rosen, you know, and I'm not studying every story, but it's fairly obvious. I use this thing called the life experience, common sense and research to, to uncover these things. By the way, I'm reminded by Newsmax TV that you can help support this show by subscribing on Apple podcasts to my show and on Spotify podcasts to My show every single day. We do a podcast. We take the three hours of the show, we edit the commercials out of them, and we put them up on all of the podcast platforms you can imagine. Look up Rob Carson's show now in the coming year. This year, I have built a studio with my own money here in Washington, D.C. and I'm going to start doing extended interviews with newsmakers, comedians, chefs, philosophers, theologians, anybody I find interesting, anybody I can find interesting. And I'm going to start doing extended interviews because I like talking to people. Hell, I might even have an Uber driver that I talked to. You know, I talked to an Uber driver over the weekend and he was from Ethiopia. I told you the story. And, and so it's just about interesting people because there are interesting people all around us. And my mother taught me how to talk to anyone about anything. So that is one of the many things we're going to be doing. But if you would on the podcast platforms that you, you listen to the show, subscribe if you would, and share with others because it's only going to get better. I'm determined to. That's why I'm here. That's why I came here. You're with me. Coming up next, all sorts of BS in Seattle with the new mayor going to hell in a hand basket. New York City too, coming up. No go anywhere.

[James Rosen]

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[Rob Carson]

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