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Rob Carson
This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan. Real United Airlines customers.
Thane Rosenbaum
We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and.
Rob Carson
Meet Kath and Andrew.
Thane Rosenbaum
I got to sit in the driver's seat.
Rob Carson
I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future.
Thane Rosenbaum
It felt like I was the captain. Allowing my son to see the flight.
Rob Carson
Deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way.
Thane Rosenbaum
Hold it now. You are about to hear the most.
Rob Carson
Interesting, informative, thought provoking, and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show, our number three of the show today. And it is four weeks ago, by the way. Charlie Kirk was. Was martyred. Was martyred. And, you know, I was talking to my friend Doug in, in Pittsburgh over the weekend, and he is a very faithful congregant in the Catholic Church and hell of a nice guy. He's been my friend for many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many years. And he was talking to me. I said, I said, how has it been? Because he was, he was doing security at the church when I called him on Sunday morning. I just wanted to catch up with him. Thinking about going up there for Thanksgiving. I'll be doing Thanksgiving solo for the first time in about 30 years, which is a bummer because I really love cooking for family at Thanksgiving. I really do. I do, I do, I do. But. But he was talking to him on Sunday morning and he, and he was just doing security for church early. And I said, how have things changed since Charlie was martyred? And he goes, well, we had to add another service. I went, whoa, whoa. Really? Says, oh, yeah, we had to, we had, we had to add a service because we got 25% increase in congregants coming to the church. Now, I don't know about your congregation generally. Catholic churches don't experience that kind of growth in a couple weeks. I just gotta tell you, you know, you know, you guys have had your butts in the pews of the Catholic Church. General people who bent their butts in the pews have been there since they were, you know, children and, and are there now, you know, even using walkers to go up and get their, get their communion host. I'm talking about. Right. You know what I'm talking about. And, and my friend Doug said, no, they had to add a service, they had to add a mass. Is that something else? Isn't that something else? Got my butt to the church. I've actually really enjoyed my conversations. I, I, I've never been that great a congregant. Like for instance, I sing okay, I'm a damn good singer. I was an all state singer all years in high school and very good singer. And if you've ever heard me sing background vocals on anything from Led Zeppelin to Boston in my car, you know that I can rock it. I don't feel comfortable singing in church. Never have. I'm not a good congregant. I'm, I don't know, I, I, I'm a pretty good public speaker and sometimes I get frustrated by priests who act like tenured professors and I'm just not going to sit for an hour and listen to somebody go through the motions. And at the same time I don't like these holy rollers, you know, and there's very, trying to look for the word here, but in that flamboyant but you know, testify, raising up and all that. I don't, I don't need that nonsense. And I also don't like the, the modern churches where they have the rock band trying to be cooler than they are. I just like, I know. No, no, no. So I'm not a good congregant. But I have been enjoying my talks with God gotten a little closer. There were many years that I was blaming God for my issues and my problems and I realized it wasn't God. A lot of the times you are given these tribulations by a lower power, not a higher power to separate you from your God. And so I've been enjoying my conversations alone in church. When I go into church, I, I really enjoy that and I, and I hope you do too. It's hard to believe it's only been four weeks that Charlie was murdered. And I, I still am a believer from the bottom of the depths of my soul that there is a God movement happening now. And I'm not a Bible banger. I don't know if I could read a verse and tell you a verse of the Bible. You know, I can, I can quote a few things from the Bible. I couldn't tell you the verse and chapter. I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy. But you know, and I know there's only one reason we've been through all of this in the last decade. There's only one reason we've, we've seen things become so dark. We've only reason. There's only one reason that for some reason, out of nowhere they started telling us that our kids could change gender and would have to go through transformative surgery and puberty blockers and mutilation. I mean, that's just evil. That's just evil. That's. There's no doubt about it. The same goes with surveilling senators or a man who was going to be president doing everything can to put him in jail and then keep him off the ballot and then murder him. That's evil. I can't think of anything more evil than being in law enforcement and putting away someone who's innocent and being able to sleep knowing that you put someone in jail who's innocent. I mean, my God in heaven, but there are people who do that. There are people who do that. And I'm going to tell you, their days are numbers and they're coming come up and has arrived. It has arrived. It really has. I believe this from the bottom of my heart. And I know many of you do. I think. No, in fact, I think all of you do if you listen to this show. Of course you do. You. Of course you do. I know that. I shouldn't even doubt you. We're here for this reason. We are here for this reason. The reason why I AM In Washington, D.C. there's no other reason why we could have been through all of this. The last nine years of abuses and usurpations, people going to jail for four years without a trial for January 6th. The powers that be in the federal government telling us we couldn't have an opinion about a disease, a virus that was created in China. We paid for it. We couldn't have an opinion about a vaccine. We couldn't have an opinion about why our children were kept out of schools and their education is destroyed. My two kids lost so much. So much. My God, they lost so much. What they did to us is unforgivable. And there has to be a comeuppance. There has to be hell to pay. That's all there is to it. That's all there is to it. So, by the way, this, this Democrat AG nominee J. Jones has abruptly canceled a fundraiser as his campaign spirals over leaked texts fantasizing about children of conservatives being murdered. This is a remarkable story. We shared it with you yesterday. He fantasized about shooting former Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert. You know, if you're, if you're a savor, you're a good person of faith. And I only speak from the Catholic upbringing. But you don't think of necessarily, you don't think of, God's watching me right now. And, you know, you, you just know when you're doing something that's not right. You, you would, you would never say something like, you want to murder somebody, you want to put bullets in their head, and you want their children to be murdered. Would you ever say that? Would you ever say something like that? What kind of person would say that? It's the day that we normalize this and say it's okay or, you know, a simple apology is enough. When you, when you went there, when you went there, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with your soul? Why are you in law enforcement if you would say such things? Why would you say such things? It is stunning. And then that the Democrat party is willing to look past this and, and act like nothing happened and allow him to become the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Virginia is remarkable. And that the leading candidate for governor who also believes that boys should become girls and compete with girls in sports, even though she has three daughters, she has three daughters. Maybe her kids go to private school or someplace where she can protect them from boys. Perverted boys going into the locker rooms and leering at them. I don't know. I don't know who, who, who, who, who does that? Who does that? But he's, he's canceled fundraisers now. I think he's thinking, this is going to go away in the next few, few weeks. We can't let it go away. We can't let it go away. I don't care where you live. I live in Virginia now. I'm not. I've got a national show. I've got a national show. I'm in California. I'm in freaking North Dakota. I'm in Texas. I'm in. I'm in New Hampshire. I'm in Baltimore, all of those places. This is a, this is a national story. You think it's local? It's not. Country's largest gun control group has been mum on the donation they gave to to J. To Jay Jones. Every town for gun safety hailed Democrat AG candidate Jay Jones is an advocate for safer communities. Until he said he wanted to put a couple of bullets in someone's head. You see, it requires a gun. None of you knew that if you want to murder somebody and you want to put bullets in their head, you got to have a gun. So there's that. There is that. It's kind of remarkable. Abigail Spamberger, she's The one who's running against winsome Earl Sears. And this is your just a couple weeks ago saying, let your rage fuel you.
Thane Rosenbaum
Let your rage fuel you.
Rob Carson
Every time we hear a new story, we let it fuel us. Every time we turn on the news, we let it fuel us. Every time something bad is happening, we say, oh, that's motivation.
Thane Rosenbaum
I'll tell you this.
Rob Carson
I have an opponent who's incredibly motivating. Now, you look at all the things that they did to us, and all the censorship and all the persecution and all the surveillance and all the imprisonment and all of the attempted. The attempted assassination of Donald Trump. It isn't rage that's fueling us. It is righteous justice that fuels us. There is rage. There is rage. Of course, we've had to temper it. We had to sit on it for years, Right? We've had to sit on it for a decade. Is it fueling us? No, no. But the demand for justice and accountability is what fuels us, their rage, which, by the way, is hate. Because they're morally and intellectually bankrupt. They're on the wrong side of history. They believe in nonsense. They believe in evil. So the only thing that would fuel them is rage. The only thing that fuels us is a demand for justice, is a demand for accountability, and it is a righteous demand that comes from a different place, by the way. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.
Thane Rosenbaum
Relentlessly.
Rob Carson
Slowing the spread of the stupid every day. It's the Rob Carson Show.
Thane Rosenbaum
Yeah.
Rob Carson
Conservative comedy is on the ascension because the left can't be taken seriously anymore. And there is nothing truer than that, to be quite honest. And we've seen it with Greg Gutfeld doing very well. We've seen it with. With my show. Thank you very much. I was thinking about this. You know, I. I see some of these other people, like Benny Johnson, okay. And I followed Benny for a couple of years, and congratulations on his enormous success. And. And every time I see him, I'm like, oh, you know, he's doing this. That. Then I realize that's not what I do. Benny Johnson is a journalist. I'm not a journalist. I. I am someone here who is. And I believe Rush felt the same way. I heard him say it on numerous occasions. I'm an entertainer. I think Rush started out as an entertainer with a strong opinion and became so powerful because he was the first person there. And he was also brilliant. He came along at the right time, right place, right skill set, live experience, the whole deal. And I think. I think to some degree that's happening with me because otherwise this should have happened years ago. This should have happened years ago. It really, it really should have. But it seems to be coming together at the right time in the right place in Washington D.C. where I never expected to live again, but I do now. And we got some stuff happening. I'll just tell you that I've. We're gonna do a new set here and we're gonna make it look like late night. And I ordered a neon sign with my own money. Rob Carson show neon sign. I'm waiting for that to arrive. And this, this thing right here that I'm sitting in. Will you watch me? I did all this. I did all this. But it's going to get a lot better, a lot bigger. Jimmy Kimmel, his audience boom came crashing down. He was, you know, this, this martyr for free speech. They tried to make it like he was some sort of martyr for free speech, but he's really just a, a jerk. Just a jerk. And a bunch of ABC affiliates said, you know, we're kind of tired of losing money on your show, so how about we make this the, the end point our, for our relationship? And the left wanted to distract from Charlie Kirk, I guess, and the fact that he is a martyr for free speech. And so they pitched a fit and he came back triumphantly acting like, oh yeah, I'm a martyr for free speech. Well, guess what? His numbers came crashing down. 71% of his viewers left in one week. You know why? Because no matter what he did to get him off television and back on, he still sucks. He still has ruined and bastardized late night television. And it's a, it's a real shame because I walk in the footsteps of Johnny Carson as well.
Thane Rosenbaum
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rob Carson
Jon Stewart smeared U.S. immigration and Customs forces as a well funded paramilitary group. Again, here's Jon Stewart committing career suicide. His career was already, you know, he's living on a farm and he works once a week and all of that stuff. But here he is being a complete Ignoramus, talking about ice and getting rid of 20 million people who came here illegally. Unvetted.
Thane Rosenbaum
Not a moment.
Rob Carson
At present, the Democrats largest victory over.
Thane Rosenbaum
These past eight months is getting a guy who may or may not be a criminal back from El Salvador so Trump could send him to Uganda.
Rob Carson
Yeah, that was the big win. Yay.
Thane Rosenbaum
And then suddenly a small ask for.
Rob Carson
People'S preservation of health care is a Molotov cocktail. No, you uninformed buffoon, it's illegals getting health care. And we're sick and damn tired of paying for it.
Thane Rosenbaum
Because apparently Republicans won't be satisfied with 99.8% domination. They must have.
Rob Carson
This is where he loses. Because when you, when you forget the truth in comedy, it's no longer comedy. When you forget the truth. That's why, you know, some of the best comedians they have, you know, they're walking wounded. They talk about their childhood. They talk about, you know, their dad being an alcoholic. Rodney Dangerfield was that way. If you could have lived his childhood, you would have never survived. But there's truth to it. And when it comes to political satire, you've got to tell the truth. This isn't even satire. This is just an old tired buffoon who nobody watches anymore with a fluffed crowd making it seem like what he says is right. ICE went from deporting the worst of.
Thane Rosenbaum
The worst to throwing grandmothers onto linoleum and zip tying American children.
Rob Carson
It's absolute lies. It's inflammatory bullcrap.
Thane Rosenbaum
Everyone's just supposed to be cool with the new masked, incredibly well funded paramilitary.
Rob Carson
Group, and Democrats are just reduced to petty gestures of restroom resistance. Yeah, and then of course, don't forget blocking in ICE vehicles and trying to murder the people and try to murder people. Just here, check it out. This is Greg Bovino with the Border Patrol. These couple of people were just released from jail yesterday without bond who tried to bo in ICE agents and murder them where the shots were fired. An individual decided it would be a good idea to try to ram a border patrol agent along with 10 other vehicles. Johnny didn't mention this in your idiotic monologue box. Border patrol agents in border Patrol agents responded and in doing so fired several shots striking an individual. That individual, as you said, was armed with a semi auto. Yeah, and then of course, a liberal Chicago judge led an attempted murderer allegedly out of jail. Our cameras were rolling as the woman shot by federal agents was released from federal custody. Charlie just mentioned 30 year old Marama.
Thane Rosenbaum
Martinez who is accused of ramming her.
Rob Carson
Car into agents here. You see her leaving the federal detention.
Thane Rosenbaum
Center downtown this evening.
Rob Carson
A short time later, 21 year old Anthony Ian Santos Ruiz was also released. Yeah, there you go. That's, that's the way it rolls. But you know what? I think we should end the the conversation here about Jon Stewart with some comedy about Jon Stewart. How's coming from Jim Gossett on the Rob Carson show? Five foot two. So untrue. His low rating's nothing new. Jon Stewart is a little guy. Sounds like Trump done it. Keep slamming Trump what a chump not much taller than a stump Jon Stewart is a little guy that's a height shaving or something Won't think twice of slammin ice he is unblued his made up tails are giant fails Guess John Stuart John Stewart should be sued he's not tall, not at all he'll get cancelled after fall Jon Stewart is a little guy He's a shrimp and a wimp Attacking the guard on his show he goes low Replacing him will not be hard has no hype never ripe his show's ending is in sight Jon Stewart is a little guy yes he is Jim Gas. That's real comedy there. And listen, everything you said there was true. That's that what, that's what makes good satire. By the way, October Cybersecurity Awareness Month, AKA Cyber Scaries Month. You know the scariest part of October? Being vulnerable to cyber criminals. Right now when you sign up, you sign up for webroot.com Carson, you get 60% off for a limited time only. When you go to webroot.com Carson Real Time Antivirus protection against emerging threats like malware, ransomware, phishing. I get phishing all the time on my phone, on my email. It's driving me crazy. Firewall and network monitor, web threat shield checks. Blocks malicious websites before you visit them and you never know what they are. I had some software for some camera switcher here the other day I downloaded and I'm thinking it comes from a reputable thing and it ended up loading my computer with a bunch of crap that nearly destroyed my computer. And I'm smart about this stuff. They're getting very good at this. Webroot is going to help you out. Okay? So go to webroot.comcarson webroot.comcarson 60% off for a limited time. And you can save your computer, save your, your sanity, save your credit score. I can go on and on. Webroot.com Carson 60% off. Do that now. Okay.
Thane Rosenbaum
All right.
Rob Carson
Than Rosenbaum joins us next. Yesterday in places like New York, there were people who had the audacity to go out and support Hamas in public and say in the United States that Hamas did not go far enough on October 7th. Plus one of the dumbest pro Hamas protesters ever joining us next. Actually, he doesn't join us. As the weather cools, I'm swapping in the pieces that actually get the job done. Warm, durable, built to last, and Quinsay delivers every time with wardrobe staples that'll carry you through the season. I call fall the great equalizer. You can put layers on. I actually like the way I look in clothes now. And Quinsay has the kind of fall stables you actually want to wear on repeat. Like 100% Mongolian cashmere from just $60. Classic fit denim always good. And real leather and wool outerwear that looks sharp and holds up. I've got my eye on their suede trucker jacket. It's perfect for layering and looks really casual. But put together by partnering directly with ethical factories and top artisans, Quinsay cuts out the middleman to deliver premium quality at half the cost of similar brands. Layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look. Go to quinsay.com Newsmax for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N C-E.com Newsmax free shipping and 365 day returns. Q U-I-N C.com Newsmax we did not act enough. We did not act enough.
Thane Rosenbaum
We did not act enough.
Rob Carson
Repeat after me. We did not act enough.
Thane Rosenbaum
We did not act enough.
Rob Carson
If we acted enough. If we acted enough, the headline behind me would read, Gaza has been liberated. So our work is not done. We must show up stronger than we did the first October 7th. Wow. Louder than we did the first October 7th. Make it clear that we are not going anywhere. Okay, so there are people who, on the anniversary of October 7, went to New York City and said that they didn't go far enough. Hamas did not go far enough on October 7th. We also know that Hamas launched some missiles or munitions into the, one of the kibbutzes yesterday where the attacks happened. Okay, this is not protected speech. This is one of the reasons I came up with the expression homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews. You know where that originally came from? Because I was hoping that a bunch of homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews would go down to places where they have these rallies, these, these radical Islamists and kick their asses. That's why I came up with homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews. That's the original sin right there. Because it's about time that, you know, in New York City that welders and police officers and, and people who are patriotic Americans and people who love Israel and, and my, and my Hebrew brothers and sisters go down and these people for this ridiculous, inflammatory nonsense, this anti Semitism, not protected speech. This, yesterday, I got to tell you, really chafed my butt. And, and again, we're going to have. To have a confrontation, a defensive confrontation, where we. We end this because this, this, this is, again, not protected speech. When you are fomenting rage and anti Semitism. It is not. It's like having a Nazi flag out. It's the same thing. Not protected speech. Thane Rosenbaum joins us on the Newsmax hotline. I could not think of someone better to talk about such things than my buddy Thane. Thane, how are you doing this glorious Wednesday, sir?
Thane Rosenbaum
I'm better because it's the day after October 7th, and there's disgusting scenes that happened yesterday. And I'm talking to my buddy Rob Carson today.
Rob Carson
Brother, I gotta tell you, I. This is audacious and despicable and it is not protected speech. And by the way, it's the same. The same modus operandi, the same kind of language, the same result desired as the Democrat Party is using against ice, against Donald Trump and against MAGA supporters. It is the same language. These are based on the same things. The Democrat left, the left, they talk about colonizers in this country. Hamas talks about Israel being colonizers on stolen land. They are exactly the same. This is as much Marxist as anything to do with any sort of religion thing.
Thane Rosenbaum
Well, you know, Rob, you know, my most recent book is on the Israel war in Gaza. Beyond Proportionality. Israel's Just War in Gaza. But the book before that was titled Saving Free Speech. And for Rob Carson listeners, and there are many voted listeners, you can take down this note versus the United States of New Hampshire, sorry, Sierpunski versus New Hampshire, Virginia versus Black, and Brandenburg versus Ohio. Those are the three Supreme Court cases that completely reinforce everything Rob Carson said at the intro to this segment. Those cases are clear now why the major media doesn't talk about those three, support Supreme Court precedents, why other law professors other than me don't say, wait a minute, that is not protected speech. It would be no different if I went on campus or anywhere and screamed, lynch blacks. Lynch blacks. Lynch blacks.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
And if I pretended and said, oh, no, no, no, no, I don't really mean lynch blacks. I'm opposed to racial preferences. But this is how I choose to say it, because that's what people like Mandami say. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. When I say intifada, I don't mean killing Jews. I mean supporting Palestinians. This is the kind of, you know, duplicity that we're under this nonsense. Those words are not protected speech. And lynch black should not be protected speech. Any decent American would know that. But for some reason, here we go, we're saying, oh, no, no, no. It's just a matter of an opinion. Everyone has a right to say what they have to say. No, they don't. The free speech rights under the Constitution are expansive but not unlimited. Yes, are prescribed categories. Fighting words is in a prescribed category. What you said before, fomenting, inciting imminent lawlessness is a prescribed category. And true threats under Virginia versus Black. If you're screaming globalize the intifada and a Jewish guy is anywhere near you, that's a true threat. And that is not protected speech. Just like nowadays the Court, Supreme Court has sort of chain modified its decision on cross burnings. If cross burnings. It used to be protected speech. It's not clear whether it is anymore. Because if you burn a cross on an African American's lawn, that is clearly a true threat and it's not protected. But again, you won't hear that from the New York Times. You won't hear that from Harvard or university law professors. You won't hear it from them. You got to hear it from someone like me. So that's pretty sad. There's so few people or anyone prepared to be truthful and say, you know, maybe it's time to actually explain things to these guys in a way that's different from the law. Which is your solution. Maybe that's Donald Trump.
Rob Carson
Listen, I Thane, I'll just be honest. If I could, I would just go down with a bunch of my homies and kick their asses. But we can't do that. But we can't do that, can we? Thank. But I will tell you, there is a point defensively, we're going to have to do something about this. Donald Trump is going after the organizations that fund these groups. He has declared Antifa a terrorist. Terrorist organization. He is going after the funders of all of these groups. And this is a major project. You know this as much as I do. It starts with people like Joe, with, with what's his name, the billionaire. I'm drawing a blank on his name. The billionaire. George Soros. George Soros. It starts with George Soros. It starts with George Soros. And it trickles down to myriad organizations and groups that are as radical. We know that there are literally malicious, leftist, malicious training people with guns around the. So rather than going after this in a First Amendment fashion, Donald Trump is going as, as the FBI would go after organized crime. Like they went after Stallone or Stallone like you went after, you know, the FBI went after organized crime in the past. I'll just say that.
Thane Rosenbaum
Well, you mean, like, use the RICO statute?
Rob Carson
Yes, the RICO statues. Of course. Of course.
Thane Rosenbaum
You know what. What's the point of that? To say, well, look, if there is a conspiracy of a criminal enterprise. Right. And what you're describing sounds like a criminal enterprise.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
An enterprise that's devoted to the dismantling of the United States, that is a criminal enterprise.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
And so there are ways to, you know, challenge them in court. And Donald Trump seems to have the appetite. Look what he's done to universities. He read them the riot act, and within six months, hundreds of millions of dollars have been paid in fees. And it does look like they're going to be clamping down. I don't think that he will succeed in the end because unless you get rid of tenure, the professors don't care. They can't get fired. They're not there to do anything. They're very, you know, I happen to be one of them. They're lazy. They don't do anything. You know, they don't do anything. They're like, you know, they're kind of people that like to manipulate. They like to, you know, provide propaganda. They're.
Rob Carson
Oh, they're like Democrats in Congress is what you're saying.
Thane Rosenbaum
Yeah, that's right. So I'm thinking they're not going to give up their gig. This is their best gig. To manipulate.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Thane Rosenbaum
To despise the United States, despise themselves if they're white, despise Jews, that they. And the kids are so stupid and sheltered that those things. Because they're terrified and their parents are.
Rob Carson
Terrified of being failed.
Thane Rosenbaum
Yeah, they're failed. That's right. The leverage is all on the side of the professor. And they're easily manipulated, easily influenced. And I just think that the universities that have sort of understood we need to write some checks to make good for all the antisemitism that we permitted on campus under the illusion of academic freedom. But we really don't know how we can fix it unless we fired people because the people who work here believe this stuff.
Rob Carson
Yeah, we've got to. We've got to hold on. We've got to hold on. We got to take a break here. I want to. On the other side of the break, I've got one of the dumbest pro Hamas protesters. This will be actually very funny. I want to share that. On the other side. And also, Mandami statement on October 7 attacks draws sharp rebuke from Israel. He. He showed us a little bit of what he is. And no amount of campaigning in that sick smile of his will cover up what lies in his heart. We'll get to that on the other side of the break. This is the Rob Carson Show. It is Rob Carson Show. Tayne Rosenbaum on the. On the show the day after October 7th. Here's what Zoran Mandami said yesterday. Two years ago, Hamas carried out a horrific war crime, killing more than 1,100. Israel's kidnapping, 250. I mourn these lives and pray for the safe return of every hostage. But the US Government in Israel has been complicit in what he described as a genocidal war, a death toll that now far exceeds 67,000. With an Israeli military bombing homes, hospitals and schools into rubble, every day in Gaza has become a place where grief itself has run out of language. I mourn those lives. He hasn't changed his stripes, has he? Has he, Thane Rosenbaum.
Thane Rosenbaum
Well, you know, as you know, this is my field. There is a war. Yes, that's true. He got that right. But it's not a genocidal war. It's a war that produces cash, mass casualties because of the nature of this asymmetric fighting, the way Hamas fights among the civilians.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
And the fact that the civilians won't get out of the way.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
You know how you know that is because when Israel turned its attention last fall to Lebanon and unloaded on Hezbollah, we didn't hear anything, Rob, about Lebanese civilians. You want to know why? Why they left? They weren't going to stay there. They're not lunatics. They're not. They're not. They're not a death cult. The Lebanese people said, I got the warning. I got the text message from the Israeli army. I got the voicemail from the Israeli army. I got the flyers. I got the. They dropped speakers on parachutes. We got the message, our building will be destroyed tomorrow. Taking my kids. I'm getting the hell out of here. That is not. And I'm there, and I'm going anywhere. And there's also humanitarian corridors. Here's the thing about the innocent Gazans. They aren't going to the corridors. They want to be martyrs. They believe in the afterlife. Yes, I understand. A lot of people, look, listen to this. And they go, I don't know anyone like that. Of course you don't know anyone like that, but if you lived in Gaza, you would know people like that. You can't just say, look, I live on Park Avenue, Aaron Brentwood or Shaker Heights, and I don't know Anyone like that? No. Yeah, you probably don't. But you have to have the hubris, the sense of acceptance that on some places of the world, people do this. Yeah, that explains. Oh, yes, there are collateral damages, which means they're collateral to the war. They're casualties of war, which means they're casualties of a war, but they're not victims of genocide. Genocide is something else.
Rob Carson
Now, I want to play something for you. This is really funny. There's a guy, a young guy, he's a kind of a gonzo journalist, goes out, you know, like so many of.
Thane Rosenbaum
These young influencers ask people what they know. And you learn out there, listen, Listen.
Rob Carson
To Nate Friedman walking up to a guy in New York who has a Palestinian flag with trans colors. Wait, wait, will you hear this? You better. If you have a, if you have a beverage, don't drink it. You will do a spit take. Don't drink anything. No coffee, no nothing. Here you go. What do you say to those who.
Thane Rosenbaum
Who say that trans people will be killed in Palestine? I mean, I don't know about that, but I know that I, I'm standing here Today, at least 50% of the Gazan government needs to be trans women like Muhammad himself. Muhammad herself was in fact, a trans lesbian.
Rob Carson
Muhammad was a, he says Muhammad was a trans lesbian. And he said that half of the leadership should be trans women in, in leadership in Gaza.
Thane Rosenbaum
Rob, I, I can't, I can't believe you have that. I, I, that's at another level of obtuseness. You know, I, I, I just, what I would suggest to him is the following. I'm gonna walk you over to a mosque. You and I are gonna talk to him.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
Take your shoes off, go inside and say what you just said. And I'm gonna wait outside because you're gonna beat the out of you.
Rob Carson
Oh, yes. Oh, they're gonna, oh yeah.
Thane Rosenbaum
They're gonna tear you apart. Because everything about you, there isn't anything about you that should be alive in their minds. And you're here basically advocating for terrorists who would give you five seconds of life if you gave them an opportunity to say, look, I'm a trans man. I think we should. Trans women should run the country. And Muhammad himself was not a man.
Rob Carson
Yes. To say that Muhammad was a trans lesbian would get you absolutely so murdered. I mean, like forever.
Thane Rosenbaum
But Rob, you don't have to go to Gaza for that. I'm saying I'll walk.
Rob Carson
Yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
Oh, yeah.
Rob Carson
Oh, yes.
Thane Rosenbaum
You don't even to go to. You don't have to be in Iran anywhere. So anyway, this is what you're. What we're facing, and it's despicable. And yeah, you're right. The mayor, the. The mayor who could very likely run the city that has the largest number of Jews in the United States is an avowed, shameless anti Semite. And how is that possible?
Rob Carson
I don't know. But we need homeboys and hillbillies and Hebrews. You did mention your books. And now I have to get Saving Free speech from itself, but I'm looking on Amazon. You can get beyond proportionality. Israel's just war in Gaza and saving free from itself. Either one of those, I think it'd be great to have, particularly when it comes to the limits of free speech. Thane Rosenbaum. Always a lively conversation, my friend.
Thane Rosenbaum
Yes, my friend. I enjoyed. I always look forward to hearing you, buddy.
Rob Carson
All right, God bless you, bro. We'll talk again soon. Let's take a break. This is the Rob Carson show. Alrighty. Last break of the show today. Hey, if you get a chance to subscribe and download the podcast every day, I don't talk about it enough. We take the entire show, we divided into three segments and then we post it up every day. Redneck MacGyver Ken, my producer, does it every day and you can listen to individual segments, you know, featuring like Thane Rosenbaum. Brilliant, wonderful interview, by the way. Just did it. But just go to your usual podcast platforms, particularly Spotify. There's a little bell there, you can ding it and then you'll get an update when it comes out and all that. Also, Birch Gold, I don't know if you knew this gold went above $4,000 for the first time ever yesterday. So do you need any more incentive to buy gold? How about this? Buy Gold, get a free free silver for every $5,000 purchase from Birch Gold. This month in advance of Veterans Day they send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the Gasden and American flags. Gold is up over 40% since the beginning of this year. Birch Gold can help you own it by converting an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. Plus they will send you free silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases. Listen, gold was above $4,000 yesterday. I think that's a good enough rating, right? Or good enough reason, right? A plus rating from the bbb. Tens of thousands of happy customers. Many of them are you guys. I encourage you to diversify your savings into gold. Text my name, Rob to 989-898 Rob to 989-8984. Birch Gold, if you would. If you would, if you would, if you would. I don't have a lot of time here to. To do anything serious. Serious. I will mention this. Chris Murphy, Democrat. He is. I mean, buffoon supreme. Listen to him and his incredible conspiracy theory. You can't see the indictment of Comey, the cancellation of Kimmel, the troops. Listen in Chicago as different events.
Thane Rosenbaum
Yeah.
Rob Carson
They are all part of the same story. Go ahead and take another hit there and hold it in so the weed gets into your lungs. They are all part of a plan, Okay. A well thought out plan, okay. To try to destroy American democracy and create a new set of rules that will allow Trump and his allies to. To rule forever. Okay, now exhale. I know this sounds extreme. I know it sounds stupid. It is. Yeah. But if you connect the dots. No. No. If you allow yourself to see. No. The whole story. No. The totality. No. Of this story. No. You will see the grave danger that we are in. Okay? That is just involuntary synapse firing. There's something going on there. Something. I mean, wow.
Thane Rosenbaum
Wow.
Rob Carson
I was just reminded you remember he said connected. Do you ever do dot to dots when you were a kid? Remember Highlights magazine? You did dot to. That's 1, 2, 3, 4. And you connected. I don't think he could do this. He'd be like one. 64, 72, 89, 7, 4, 9, 10. Hey, I thought this is supposed to be a giraffe. Yeah, yeah. That's the guts. That's Democrats. It's like aoc. That's Chris Murphy. Wow. Wow. This is why weed should not be legal in all states. That's gonna do it for the show. You guys have been awesome. God bless you and yours. God bless America. As founded Donald Trump as he saves the country. And by the way, our troops going in who have gone into Chicago today to bring law and order. And until tomorrow, which is Thursday, do not catch the stupid. I'll see you then. Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.
Thane Rosenbaum
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Episode: “Trans Activist Meets Mosque? Rob and Thane Rosenbaum React to a Wild NYC Moment”
Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guest: Thane Rosenbaum
This episode delivers a spirited, humorous, and impassioned exploration of current political, social, and cultural events with a specific focus on free speech, antisemitism, and shifting societal norms. Rob Carson, joined by legal scholar and author Thane Rosenbaum, discusses the aftermath of pro-Hamas protests in NYC, misconceptions about protected speech, the absurdity of some modern activist logic, and the perceived decay of institutional accountability. The discussion is fiery, often satirical, and threaded with concerns about justice and American values in turbulent times.
00:32–10:44
“There is a God movement happening now... There’s only one reason we’ve been through all of this in the last decade. Why, out of nowhere, did they start telling us that our kids could change gender... That’s just evil.”
— Rob Carson (06:57)
On law enforcement abuses:
“I can’t think of anything more evil than being in law enforcement and putting away someone who’s innocent and being able to sleep knowing that you put someone in jail who’s innocent. My God in heaven, but there are people who do that.”
— Rob Carson (07:36)
Timestamps:
10:25–11:52
“It isn’t rage that’s fueling us. It’s righteous justice that fuels us.”
— Rob Carson (10:45)
“The only thing that fuels us is a demand for justice, is a demand for accountability, and it is a righteous demand that comes from a different place, by the way.”
— Rob Carson (11:02)
Timestamps:
11:59–19:50
“Conservative comedy is on the ascension because the left can't be taken seriously anymore.”
— Rob Carson (11:59)
“When you forget the truth in comedy, it's no longer comedy. When you forget the truth... It's just an old tired buffoon who nobody watches anymore.”
— Rob Carson (15:25)
Timestamps:
21:37–32:11
“This is audacious and despicable and it is not protected speech. It is the same modus operandi... as the Democrat Party is using against ICE, against Donald Trump and against MAGA supporters.”
— Rob Carson (24:10)
“[Free speech] rights under the Constitution are expansive but not unlimited... Fighting words is in a prescribed category... fomenting, inciting imminent lawlessness is a prescribed category. And true threats under Virginia vs. Black.”
— Thane Rosenbaum (25:47)
“…It would be no different if I went on campus or anywhere and screamed, 'Lynch blacks, lynch blacks, lynch blacks.' That is not protected speech.”
— Thane Rosenbaum (25:47)
Timestamps:
34:11–36:40
“I’m going to walk you over to a mosque. You and I are going to talk to them... Take your shoes off, go inside and say what you just said. And I’m going to wait outside because they’ll beat the shit out of you.”
— Thane Rosenbaum (35:25)
“There isn’t anything about you that should be alive in their minds... You’re here basically advocating for terrorists who would give you five seconds of life if you gave them an opportunity...”
— Thane Rosenbaum (35:35)
“To say that Muhammad was a trans lesbian would get you absolutely so murdered. I mean, like forever.”
— Rob Carson (36:01)
Timestamps:
36:40–40:56
“The mayor who could very likely run the city that has the largest number of Jews in the United States is an avowed, shameless anti-Semite. How is that possible?”
— Rob Carson (36:40)
“Do you ever do dot-to-dots as a kid? …I don’t think he could do this. He’d be like one, 64, 72, 89, 7, 4, 9, 10. Hey, I thought this was supposed to be a giraffe.”
— Rob Carson (40:08)
Rob’s “Homeboys, Hillbillies and Hebrews” Line
Advocating for grassroots resistance against hate rallies.
[23:30]
Thane’s Legal Education Segment
Direct instruction on limits of First Amendment, rare in primetime commentary.
[24:53–27:41]
Viral Protester Parody
Highlighting the disconnect between LGBTQ activism and Islamist regimes, delivered with sharp humor.
[34:11–36:40]
Satirical “Jon Stewart” Song
Classic Newsmax parody, blending pointed critique with comic relief.
[17:11–18:48]
The episode is a rapid-fire blend of news commentary, cultural critique, satire, and legal analysis—punctuated by outrage and concern over the cultural normalization of antisemitism and violence in political discourse. While irreverent and partisan, the show provides legal context on protected speech, pokes fun at modern activist absurdities, and calls for assertive defenses of American and Jewish values.
For additional context, listen to the main discussion segments at:
For critiques of activism and the viral protester moment, go to 34:11–36:40.