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Hold it.
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Now you are about to hear the.
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Most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world wide web. This is the Rob Carson show.
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And it's the Rob Carson Show. Welcome to it. Please come inside, have a seat and take your place because I've been working real hard on the show. I was up late, late, late last night and got plenty of stuff to get to as the show progresses. Everything from drug boats. They're bombing us, not out of drug boats. Still, the Democrats last week tried to convince you they were fishing boats and Pete Hegswood was a war criminal. And. And they've moved on. They've moved on. Now it's now it's Donald Trump disparaging Rob Reiner. A Guy who called him a Nazi and a fascist and a rapist for a decade.
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As far as Trump is concerned, he said he liked, he knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite that I was a friend of Russia, controlled by Russia. You know, it was the Russia hoax. He was one of the people behind it. I think he hurt himself in career wise. He became like a deranged person. Trump derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape or form. I thought he was very bad for our country.
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Yeah. So that's the, the next thing. It's Donald Trump going after Rob Reiner because Rob Reiner. Well, we'll just go ahead and show you what Rob Reiner did the last decade or so with regard to Donald Trump.
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We have a racist in the White House, we have a sexist in the White House. And he is tearing away at the fabric of our democracy. The single most unqualified human being to ever assume the presidency of the United States. He's been mentally unfit. People always say, you know, he could redo all the family. I said, I said, what do you mean? We're living it. We've got Archie in the White House. He always, when he quotes something that isn't him and they're talking about Donald Trump, he goes, will Donald Trump. Every character is exactly the same, Will Donald Trump every time. And he always does that walk where he does like this, you know, always the problem he has, as far as I can see, is that he's a pathological liar. People have to understand our democracy is being taken away from us. Make no mistake, we have a year before this country becomes a full on autocracy. This is not a political party anymore. I don't know what this is. I believe there's a Christian nationalist movement that's very frightening. Do we want to continue democracy?
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There you go. So that is Rob Reiner in life. And listen, you know, I mean, I'm a Christian. Do I try to bite my tongue with regard to the passing of certain individuals? Sure, absolutely. You know, I'm not going to celebrate somebody dying. Donald Trump wasn't celebrating something. Somebody dying like the Democrats did with, with Charlie Kirk being murdered. There were hundreds and maybe thousands of videos and thousands of individuals at universities, even some political leaders celebrating his death. Just absolutely dancing on his grave because he was murder. And so as far as Donald Trump, I hate to tell you, I've never been savage for a decade with 98% negative press coverage, constantly harangued Taken off of social media for free speech, pursued by the Justice Department, impeached twice for nothing, had my home raided by the FBI, been the subject of 91 political counts, charges, five political trials, an attempt to take him off the ballot, and two assassination attempts. So I guess I'm a little skewed. Donald Trump has every right to say that about. About Rob Reiner. And you know what? Just get the hell over it. Sorry. It sucks. You would probably feel the same way if somebody harangued you for a decade, every stinking day, literally went to Congress and testified with regard to Russia collusion. He was down with a Russia collusion hoax. So sorry. Sorry. You know, let the man say what he wants to say. Who cares? You consider how badly Donald Trump is treated every single day. He's a white supremacist, he's a Nazi, he's a fascist. And then you've got the words of Democrats showing up on spent shell casings that killed Charlie Kirk. You know, honestly, there's a point where you gotta say, enough is enough. Enough is enough. Too bad. So sad. It sucks. I'm very sad. Sorry. He met his maker in this fashion. It's dreadful. It is awful. Yes, 100%. Would I personally say that online? No, I wouldn't. I bite my tongue. When Joe Biden passes, I'm not gonna say anything about it. I'm not gonna celebrate his passing. Certainly when Dick Cheney passed, I didn't celebrate his passing, but I said I'm not gonna give him too much credit because he turned on the American people. And he also was involved in starting wars that resulted in the deaths and injuries of tens of thousands of American soldiers. And it was unnecessary. I didn't say that when he died. Whatever. If this is your thing, then this is your thing. Honestly, get over yourself. It's going to be over in a couple of days. They will have completely forgotten it and move on to something else. They will move on to something else because it's always another thing with the Democrat Party. That's all there is. With regard to moving on to the story of Rob Reiner's death. His daughter turned in the brother Nick to police after parents were murdered in their mansion after he freaked out at an A list holiday party. Have you ever had a family member who was unhinged like this? It is frightening. I had a brother who was like this and I worried about him injuring us, and I literally stopped. Didn't see him for 20 years until a couple of months before his passing. And my wife met him and she goes, well, yeah, I can see why you guys are a little afraid of him. And he's no longer with us. He died 20 years ago. Here is Billy Bush talking about how they identified the brother as the killer.
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LAFD were called to the home on Chadbourne street at 3:30 on Sunday. They arrived to find two slain bodies. I got this from a friend who lives in the community. I heard that the son Nick went into his parents house, stabbed both mom and dad and that the daughter I guess lives on the property or at the house or in the back house and that she found them and that the mom was still alive and apparently she called the ambulance and went in the ambulance with her mother. Michelle died in the ambulance but had enough time to tell her daughter that it was Nick, their son, who stabbed them. And that's why they figured it out so quickly and he's in custody and.
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You know, the, the spiral of addiction. He had been in treatment 17 times and supposedly was clean and sober a decade. I don't know, I'm, you know, and honestly, it's really none of my business, to be quite honest. Here is Brian Claypole. He is a private investigator talking about the issues in the family.
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Nick Reiner was in and out of rehab 17 times in 2018. Apparently he, he completely trashed and thrashed the guest house there, allegedly under the influence of methamphetamine. So this looked like tragically a time bomb ready to tick. But look, to your point, Laura. Yeah. So the police officers arrest somebody but that doesn't mean you're prosecuted. The prosecutors have to make that decision by tomorrow at 5. They need for example, the clothing has to be tested of Nick Reiner. Right. What's on his cell phone? Did he make any admissions to anybody else? Is there any blood spatter on any of his clothing? What about his car? He drove somewhere after they got to do a deep dive into the car to see if they can capture any blood spatter there or any DNA. So that takes time, quite frankly, Laura, the police officers were in a no win situation here. They saw him as an immediate threat to harm himself or others. They had to arrest him. And now the clock's ticking. But look, when you arrest somebody without a warrant, Laura, that means you're pretty confident you've got the evidence to get the prosecutor.
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Yeah, and of course there was the news about the mom there. Michelle Obama was on with Kimmel last night. She said she was invited with her husband to rob Reiners and the wife's house for dinner. And of course Use it as an attack on Donald Trump. I'm not gonna play it because I don't give a rat's behind. What a spoiled brat who has a chip on her shoulder and has done nothing at all in her life ever has to Donald Trump. Nick attended a holiday party with with Rob Reiner and his wife on Saturday night. Reportedly left a list guest concerned about them getting into a very loud argument with his parents. He was acting crazy. Kept asking if. If people were famous. It sounds like he was still on something. It sounds like he was on. He was on something. He first entered rehab on his 15th birthday, by the way. Here is a he. He destroyed a guest house a while back. Here is a phone call from a couple years ago where he described that.
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I went 10 rounds of my guest house. Not much of a story.
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I got totally spun out on uppers.
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I think it was coke and something else. And I was up for days on end and I started punching out different things in my guest house.
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Yeah, there you go. You know, that's just the spiral of addiction. There's nothing you can do about it. The. The person who is addicted has to overcome the addiction, and it's very hard. And there's a time where you kind of, you know, give up on yourself. This guy obviously had a lot of other things going on. He was on a whole lot of different kinds of drugs. There are a million things out there that can really alter your reality and even end up doing things like what happened here. James Wood is on last night, and he was on Fox, and he was a friend of Rob Reiner's, and Rob Reiner helped save his career. And that's great. And that's really great. And Rob Reiner personally probably was a pretty nice guy, but online, with regard to Donald Trump, he was a vicious vitriolic, you know, character assassin. That's. That's what he lived for, even when it wasn't true. And he wouldn't redact anything that he said that wasn't true. Donald Trump is a rapist. Donald Trump collaborated with Russia. None of that. So you can understand Donald Trump's reaction to Rob Reiner's passing. We've got more on this, a little bit more on this. I want to get into this, this Brown University shooting and the Keystone Cops in charge of the investigation there. A terrific speech yesterday by Tom Homan talking about what Donald Trump has done for the border. No illegals coming in, more drug boats exploded, more coming out of Minnesota, the massive fraud caused by Democrats up there, and other things. New comedy as well. From the great Jim Gossett. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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Look, I've been hearing for 10 years that Trump's going to lose his base over this or that or the other. And for millions upon millions of Republicans who support what he's doing, who have lived through the last 10 years, they have learned to take Donald Trump for who he is all in all the time. And they are very appreciative of what he's doing for the country. They like what he's done on taxes. They like what he's doing on immigration. They like that he lives up to his campaign promises. But we're living through another moment here where a bunch of people are going to come out and make predictions about Trump in the base and this and that, and the reality is it's not true. There are going to be a lot of people who don't like this statement and then they're going to assess the state of American politics and assess the alternative and say, I knew what I was signing up for when I voted for him three times and I'm going.
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To ride it out.
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Yeah.
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And it's amazing that the support for Joe Biden continued to be strong even though he opened the southern border. He, he shut down the entire government for a virus that was created and paid for by us. He, he shut down the ability to speak on, on social media for conservatives altogether, created a department of disinformation, took millions of dollars from the Chinese Communist Party into LLCs. 27 LLC. The money. Let's see, what else did he do? Oh, had thousands of classified documents in his possession, destroyed the economy, caused inflation to go through the ceiling. Other than that, yeah. Oh, please. Really? So Donald Trump now saying bad things about or true things I should say about Rob Reiner is going to kill. You know, honestly, a couple weeks ago, Harry Enton did a poll and he was talking about 87% of Republicans or even more than that are behind Donald Trump. And it hasn't changed at all since Inauguration Day. Today, NBC say, oh, yeah, half of the MAGA base is gone. And it looks like maybe MAGA is not in charge of the Republican Party anymore. If you think that the MAGA base is going anywhere and if you think that the old school GOP is making a comeback, you're high, you're smoking some really good weed. I don't know where you live, but it must be the best weed Ever. Because if you believe that, you're an idiot. Honestly, we're not going anywhere. We're in this fight. You think we went through the last 10 years to arrive here and go, oh, my God, he said something bad about Rob Reiner, who called him a Nazi and a fascist and a rapist and a racist for a decade. Oh, my God. Really, really nice try. Dear God. You people, you have no freaking clue who you're dealing with here. You have no clue. Because we went through it with him. We went through this censorship with him. We supported him throughout. Through all of the attacks, all of the negativity, all of him and us being called mega fascists, enemies of democr. White supremacists, all of this. We soldiered through it all, no matter what they did, no matter what they threw at us. And then they tried to shoot him. And he stood up, they shot him, raised his hand in the air and said, fight, fight, fight. Who the hell has ever done that? You think that we're gonna leave this guy because he criticized Rob Reiner? You're out of your nut. My God, I'm just so bloody done with your. Your idiocy at this point. You have no idea who you're up against. And we are not going anywhere. You haven't changed our mind. Nothing has changed our mind, no matter what you said. Elon Musk is a Nazi. Donald Trump is a king. Donald Trump did this. Donald Trump. Epstein. That was another lie that was here for last week. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. And then they put some blacked out photos of him with some girls that had already been public. They were pageant members. They said he was wonderful and the photos had already been seen. They just put the black boxes on their faces to make it look like Donald Trump was with underage girls. And then they pivot into Donald Trump talking about Rob Reiner. Oh, God, are you kidding me? I usually don't like to get worked up like this, but I'm just kind of done with this crap, to be quite honest. Here's James Woods. James Woods, a great guy. He was blacklisted by Hollywood, completely destroyed by Hollywood in the last few years. Because he's conservative. Because that's the way it is, right? And I want you to listen to what he had to say about 2025.
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This has been such a horrible year. You know, Charlie was murdered. And when this happened, I just looked at her and she said, I would give anything for this to be New Year's Day, 2026, because this has been the worst year I could ever experience.
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Oh, I can relate totally.
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I mean, the world is going insane. And by the way, you just glossed over this. But these drugs that people are on prescription as well as the illegal drugs. You know, I watch football, I don't usually watch network television, but I was watching football. And they advertise one drug after another after another. You look at the fine print and you know, suicidal tendencies and homicidal tendencies and you know, the list of side effects. And I'm thinking if everybody's on this stuff, just the sheer mathematical possibility of insane behavior, violent insane behavior has got to be taken.
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Yeah, absolutely, 100%. I've been talking about that forever. Every night you watch, you know, the nightly news. I always say that I never want to be as sick as the people who watch the nightly news because they are just bombarded with a million and one different kinds of diagnoses. Something you gotta better ask your doctor about. Ask your doctor. Ask your doctor. Ask your doctor. One of the symptoms of this antidepressant is you might want to kill yourself. Oh, really? Well, I kind of got that problem now. That's what I want to go on, the antidepressant. Oh my God, it's so ridiculous. And here he is talking about the Brown University shooter. And I'm wondering why they're being so vague about this Brown University shooter. Why are they being so vague? Maybe they know something about this guy, we don't.
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But you're asking about the world in general. I mean, I grew up seven miles from Brown University. I was offered a scholarship to Brown University. It's a beautiful, beautiful campus. It's gone very left leaning in its teaching protocols and so on. So did it surprise me that one of the victims was a beautiful, lovely 19 year old young woman who was the head of the Young Republican Club? I don't know if the motive of the killer was political, but I'm not surprised that the one who got murdered, that we all hear about, of the others who were also shot, was, you know, a young conservative.
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Yeah, it's kind of weird. Here's Jesse Waters talking about how this, this appears to be, this wasn't a mass shooting, this was a targeted shooting.
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One of the victims was 19 year old sophomore Ella Cook. She was the vice president of Brown's Republican Club. An Alabama native who was a devout Christian. Her pastor described her as a tremendous bright light. And she may have been the most prominent Republican on campus. Brown's considered the most liberal of all the Ivy League schools. So any members of the college Republicans would be very well known.
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The family of Ella Cook, the Alabama young woman who was a sophomore, has been told that she was the target of what happened at Brown. I have no idea whether that's true.
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And the other thing is if the police are telling Brown students that they are safe, they don't have to shelter in place anymore, but they don't have a suspect in custody. I think that also suggests that this was some kind of targeted attack.
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Makes you wonder because, you know, I mean, I mean, it's kind of the out of the realm of possibility that a conservative will be targeted on campus. Oh yeah. Charlie Kirk. Oh yeah. Every conservative for the last decade driven off campus as college speakers, driven into seclusion in libraries, hiding for their own safety. Yeah, yeah. Other than that, nothing to see here. Let's take a break and come back. Hillary Fordwich, keynote speaker, Newsmax contributor to Talk about Islam in the uk among other things. Don't go anywhere. My nightly ritual now is a little ice, a little vanilla yogurt, banana, a little milk and a scoop of chocolate brownie beans. Dream Powder in the blender. A little while later, I hit the sack and I sleep until sunrise. It's amazing. These days everything moves so fast and it certainly can mess with your sleep schedule. That's why I'm here to tell you about Beam's Dream Powder. It's a healthy nighttime blend packed with science backed ingredients shown to improve sleep so you can wake up refreshed and ready to take on the day. Dream is made with a powerful blend of all natural ingredients including Reishi, magnesium, L theanine, apigenin and melatonin. I've been using Beam's Dream Powder for a year now and I can honestly say I feel sharper, calmer and more focused. And I'm not alone. BEAM has improved over 28 million nights of sleep for people across the country. So if you've been waiting for the right time to try Dream, this is it. Go to shopbeam.com newsmax use code newsmax and take advantage of my exclusive offer. For 40%, you can get their best selling Dream powder for just $39. So seriously, think about it. Go to shopbeam.com newsmax today. Run DMC Christmas in Hollis. I'm doubting it's one of Hillary Ford which is favorite Christmas songs. I just, I'm just saying. Joining us on Newsmax Hotline is public speaker, Newsmax contributor, great contributor for GB News as well, Hilary Fordwich. Hello and welcome to the show. Hillary, how are you today?
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Yes, thank you so much Rob, for that lovely introduction. Yes, I do. All those networks and Sky News Australia. So Australia, the uk, the US where we speak I would say English, American and Aussie.
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Absolutely. Well, obviously Australia in the news with the Bondi beach murders. You've seen the rise of radical and anti Semitism there and of course another tone deaf woke administration just like in Great Britain. And it looks like maybe some in Australia are so sick and damn tired of it. The same is going in Britain. What are your thoughts?
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Absolutely. And I do have, you know, actually boots on the ground, so to speak. I have cousins in Australia and they've been saying for a long time exactly this. And don't forget after October 7th outside of the Sydney Opera House there was the chanting and all these crowds with from the river to the Sea. And I'm always wanting to go up to those people and ask them which river, which sea? Tell me about the Balfour Declaration and ask them about anything else about the history of that region which they probably don't know. But yes, there's a ghastly rise in anti Semitism across actually I would say the Western world. I think that Jewish people are an easy target. I think it shows that the incredible evils of religion, you know, your free to worship as you like, whichever God you like, but to kill other people of a differing belief, a different, you know, religious belief than you, I think is literally, it's ghastly and there's nothing else to say about it except for it's, you know, the evils of religion. I grew up in England when, you know, Irish in Ireland we had the Irish Catholics killing the Irish Protestants and the Irish Protestants killing the Irish Catholics. It can be very evil.
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Yeah, but this is a worldwide caliphate that has kind of happened post 9011 and we've allowed tolerance to disguise what is evil and, and what is the goal of radical Islam. And, and now it's beginning to expose itself. I'm hoping that it is exposing itself so we can see it and fight it.
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But I hopefully.
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Yeah, well I hope so as well. But it, but it looks like this may have been the, the line in the sand. Well, I guess you could. Bondi beach is a beach after all. A line in the sand for, for patriotic Australians. Kind of like what we' France kind of like we've seen in Poland and other places. But maybe, maybe this is finally going to do something for Australia as the Prime Minister there blames it on the right wing and on guns.
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Well, yes, you're totally right. And also don't forget he's had plenty of opportunities. They've had opportunities to pass legislation. They've had opportunities to put an end to those protests when they say globalized intifada. They had many opportunities to put an end to this, Rob, and they simply haven't. And don't forget what the politicians care about. Politicians care about voters. They care about staying in office. And of now all of these countries, Australia definitely have let in so many Muslims and they care about the Muslim vote. That's what they care about. And so you are seeing a lot of Jewish people saying, well, they want to leave Australia, they want to leave the UK well, where are they going to go? I think right now under Trump, it's a wonderful place to come to, to America. But we're seeing some of the same things here in different states, of course, like Minnesota, where we've seen issues there from, from the Somalis.
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No, it's just going to have to be a wholesale deportation of radical Islamists from all of these countries. That's just, that's what's going to have to happen. They don't want to assimilate. They hate the Jews. You know, I'm seeing things like in, in Paris, they're getting rid of the New Year celebration on the Champ Elysees. They are not going. And that's when, that's when the radicals have won Hillary. There were a million people out last year and they're going to cancel it. It because, because radical Islam is a threat. Are you kidding me?
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Well, you're absolutely right there, Rob. And don't forget, now there are countries in Europe, like in Germany, where they had Christmas markets for basically, actually centuries, and they're canceling them now because of security concerns. How sad is that? That people in their own country, and again, you know, obviously different religions have killed other people from different religions for centuries. That's, this is nothing new. But this is, I, in my knowledge of religions, I think the Quran is the only actual religion that does have passages in the Quran that say, you know, stone the infidel, kill the infidel, and there are actually instructions to do so. And that young actually, I don't really actually even blame Muslims because young Muslim boys, every single thing that they're raised with, from the, from the time that they're a little tiny toddler, everyone they trust, everyone they love, basically tells them that they will become a martyr and this is the right thing to do. And it would be like trying to tell a Christian, you know, Jesus is nothing. Jesus was really. Which he was. He was A regular man in the 4th century, the Nissan creed vote, there was a vote for him to become divine. But you tried to tell a Christian about that and Christmas and the reality of Christmas, which was it was a pagan tradition. And the only reason they.
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Okay, let's not go there, because we're going to get into an argument about this, Hillary. Especially during the Christmas season, when you start.
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No, but when you start telling people, act for history. People who are religious don't want to hear history or facts. And so I think.
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Paul. Well, they're your facts. They're your facts, Hillary. I mean, I think we've had this discussion before off here, and I would rather not going down this road because I want to stick with radical Islam. And the fact that radical Islam, if you follow the tenets of Islam, it is about subjugating all other faiths. That's just the way it is. And if you haven't noticed that, that it's happening all over the world now. I noticed it was quiet for the first nine months of Donald Trump's presidency. And now, as Hanukkah has approached, we see an explosion of this, I should say one mass shooting, obviously, but also massive rallies, massive protests by Islamists. And, you know, if we curl up in a ball and we don't have our celebrations, it's only going to get worse, isn't it?
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Yes, it is. And actually, we're linking these up. We don't know yet what the motive was for the Brown University shooting on the first day of Hanukkah. We don't know on the eve of the first day of Hanukkah. We don't know what that motive was. We don't know if they're related. But you're right, I think that surrendering is surrendering one's own traditions. And what I was trying to say about religion is that everybody should be able to have their own belief. It doesn't mean to say it's history, but you shouldn't kill people because they want to imagine something else.
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Of course, 100%, that's the evil, and.
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That'S the only religion I do know of that literally in the Quran, actually does have instructions. And these poor little boys and people that are raised in this, they know no better. This is what they're raised. They think this is actually true because.
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They are more in love with death than they are life. They are taught that. They are taught that. So they will be useful warriors that will be discarded after death. Death. But they will, in, in their, in their departure, take a Lot of the, the infidels with them. I want to talk to you on the other side of the break, Hillary, about what the hell has happened to Great Britain. You know, the stiff upper lip, the, you know, don't get wobbly. The, the, the, you know, the land of, of Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill and, and what the hell has happened to it. And if it's salvage, salvageable or if it will fall, if we can cover that on the other side of the break, it would be greatly appreciated. We are talking to Hilary Fordwich on the Rob Carson Show. Back in a few. It is the Rob Carson Show. Hilary Fordwich, friend of the show, GB News, SKY News, Newsmax contributor, public speaker, joining us on the Newsmax hotline. You're a British expat. You, you're a strong individual. I know you, you, it has to be terribly frustrating to see what is happening to Great Britain with regard to the, the rise of, of Islam. Is it, is it as heartbreaking as I could imagine it would be being my homeland?
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Yes, absolutely. And before the break, you were very clever there when you quoted, you said don't go wobbly. That was actually Margaret Thatcher, as you know, and for our audience when she actually had a wonderful relationship with President Reagan and a lot of credit to her and to their relationship for being great for the United States because when the air traffic controllers were threatening to go on strike, she placed the phone call to Ronald Reagan, President, then Ronald Reagan saying don't go wobbly, Ronnie. And now to your question. I think she would be rolling in her grave. And in that era, in the, and of course she didn't come to power until 1980, but before her there were politicians who were considered and they were considered, considered so right wing and so racist, but they really predicted what had happened. And there was a politician called Enoch Powell and he talked about, you know, the rivers of blood and he talked about what would happen if we let in so many people that didn't have British values, weren't Church of England. And sadly, I mean, I don't consider myself in the slightest bit right wing, very moderate, just want to work and pay my taxes and live and let live. And I really don't care what religion anybody wants to imagine, just don't kill other people. And to your point, now it's a demographic issue. One of the things Winston Churchill said, he said democracy isn't a good form of government. It's just better than everything else tried. What happens with democracy is obviously the mass vote wins. And so what you're seeing now is it's not actually Sharia law in different cities in England, but there are Sharia courts one day and there was one mayor that was elected, I think it was Birmingham, I should check my facts on that. But one of the recent mayors was elected and he actually shouted at his rally when he was elected al Akbar. And you're seeing these Sharia courts. And so there is the prediction that within a couple of generations, of course, Islam will be the dominant global religion in 2060. Does that mean people in England everybody's going to be wearing burqas? And again, I don't mind. People can have different religions. There are different sects of Christianity, different religions. But to our earlier point, it is one of the religions that doesn't tolerate anybody else's belief. That is the issue about Islam. I don't mind if someone actually is a Muslim. That's totally fine. Have your own imagination, imagine your own God. But when you're killing other people because they don't imagine you're saying God, it's your fairy tale. You should not be imposing it on other people.
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Well, I think that there's also what I believe I was hearing Elon Musk talking about suicidal empathy. We have a pseudo suicidal empathy. You've got people who, who are lgbtqia, whatever, and they, they think that, you know, Islam is great and, and they, and they support the long suffering people of Palestine and, and they can relate to Hamas even though they'd be thrown off buildings. It is, it is.
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So do that.
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Yeah, it's, it's a suicidal empathy. I don't know what it. I know it's, I always called it self loathing Jews, self loathing liberals, even though they, it's, it's just, it's, it's the same people who fall in love with death row inmates knowing they could kill them.
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Well, I think a lot of it though, Rob, is the lack of knowledge of history. One of the things. Oh yes, here's a data point for you. When you get on any airplane, nice flown, you know, all the airlines, like I'm sure our listeners have. Look at the movies, all the selections. It's all absolute rubbish. It's all fantasy. It's all fiction. Look at what's on television. It's rubbish. It's fiction. What? See how many people on a plane are actually opening a book? Almost no one. I mean, I'll lay $1,000 that you can get on a plane. So people are consuming fiction and rubbish so they don't know their history. They're not watching documentaries about what's actually happened. So I think people have this surface less than a centimeter deep or a quarter of an inch, and they really don't know what's happened. Again, they don't know which river and which sea. They don't know about the Baltimore Declaration. They don't know about really what's happened in the Middle East. And I think that that lack of knowledge, lack of awareness and also our public schools have removed the sort of education that we used to have about what's happened historically to our nation.
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That's how you make useful idiots. That's how you make useful idiots. Let me ask you, do you think it's too late for Great Britain? Do you suppose that there are enough there who would fight back like Winston Churchill did back on his heels as London is being bombed to powder? Do you suppose that that attitude is still there among traditional Brits?
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B
I think it's an actual. We're literally, I would call it a tipping point. No, I would say, like Donald Trump, in the US it's very different because we still have a great majority of non Muslims in America. But in the uk, you know, should Nigel Farage be elected? And I do feel that just, just like Donald Trump, I do think that there's going to be people that, you know, want to take him out, let alone obviously thwart his candidacy. But I think it's a tipping point.
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A
For the UK I'm hoping that Nigel Farage is the candidate. I had the opportunity to meet him when I met you and he reminded me, he reminded me of Churchill. And I'm just talking about, with his aplomb, he was standing there and he goes, some people will say I'm a drinker. Some people will say I'm a womanizer. Some people will say I'm a, you know, whatever. And he goes, and I have to say, yes, of course I am. And I went, hell, yes. That's. I just, it was refreshing. It was refreshing to see him just, just not back down to criticism. And I'm hoping and praying, and it sounds like he's polling well over there.
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B
Well, he is. And Reform actually has more one more seat than labor is recently. And that's a government that's in power. Labor is analogous for our listeners to the Democratic Party and Conservatives to Republicans. But a couple of things here that are, that are sort of scary right now. There's just been this sort of like, smear campaign where they managed to dig up somebody literally from like his, I think he was 15 and he made some kind of racial comment in what would be an American high school in secondary school in England. And so they managed to dig these things up. So you can tell that there's definitely a smear campaign. And my prediction is they'll find like everybody has some kind of dirt on them. Of course, politicians and definitely Nigel Farage, they'll come up with some kind of dirt. And what that will do, sadly, it will put off your sort of true blue Englishman and the Conservative in England, Conservative sort of Republican high moral value vote. And if you lose them, then you may, he may not be able to be elected. Also don't forget the Labour government is in power. Mainly the massive mandate they received was this protest vote against the failed Conservative government that really became very liberal. So really what you're seeing in the UK is people that are dissatisfied with basically every recent government. And I think the smear campaign that's going to be waged against him, it's going to make him difficult to be elected. I hope that he is, but I think me too.
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Yeah, as long as they don't weaponize the, the, the Department of Justice against him and try to kill him like they did here in the United States. Hillary Ford, which as always, great to have you on. I did post your, your website hillaryford, which.strelmark.com on social media. But thank you for joining me today. Have a glorious rest of your day. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. I think we need some satire, don't you? What do you say? You know, it's a Christmas season and Friday I'm going to be taking off until January 2nd. So we got to get it all in here, people. This is brand new from Jim Gossett as the President of the United States on the Rob Carson Show.
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C
Winning and winning and never losing. Results that drive Nancy Pelosi taboozing. Chris Christy choking on buffalo wings. These are my favorite conservative things. Gas prices falling, inflation dropping to our momentum. There is no stopping an end to eight wars. What joy the that bring. These are a few of my favorite things.
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Make you mobile.
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C
Reducing spending, securing the border, Restoring faith in law and order. Arresting a punk. I don't know kings. These are my favorite conservative things.
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Nice.
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C
When Chuck's humor makes me nauseous, when I'm feeling sad, I simply remember we're bum and drug folks and that I don't feel so bad.
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