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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Oh, look, now you are about to.
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Rob Carson
Hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world Wide web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show, hour number two of the show on a Monday. You may notice a slight difference in the look of the stream because I kind of changed a few things in the studio, spent a good share of the weekend in the, in the studio. If you want to check out my social media, go to Twitter, Rob Carson Show, Instagram, Facebook, X. Well, X is Twitter. All of them. Just look up Rob Carson show and you'll see some of the pictures. I'm engineering and building a broadcast studio. Looks very much late night television here in Washington D.C. because you know what? I'm here for a reason, by God. And, and I'm gonna, you know, we're gonna blow this thing up. We're gonna make it awesome. We're gonna, we're gon what Gutfeld can't do in New York City and what the other morons in LA won't do, and that is bring comedy, bring fun to Washington D.C. and hopefully we'll be bringing guests and everything here in the studio and all of that. So great things are happening if you want to see it all. But anyway, back to the image you'll be seeing on the stream. It may look a little cleaner. We got new lights that we put in here this weekend and then I made some adjustments on the camera. We're getting ready to add another camera, couple of cameras. It's quite a to do. It is, it's quite a to do. As we, as we get ready to go into the holidays. Thanksgiving right ahead. I'm gonna be going to Pittsburgh for, for Thanksgiving, hanging with some dear friends of mine and then, then going back home, at least the place I've called home for 10 years, which is Kansas City area, and taking two weeks off for the first time in my career. It really isn't two weeks combined with the holidays. It's really only about seven vacation days. But I haven't really taken much vacation this year because of, you know, all of the stuff that's happened. You know, I was watching this weekend. Now on a personal note, real quick here, you followed, you know, my, my life and I, I share my life with you for a number of reasons. One of the reasons is I want a witness. I want a, I want not a witness but to, to witness, to show you, you know, maybe what's possible if you've hit bottom and you're looking for a Way out. And my life has been unbelievable, you know, the last 10 years. I moved back to Kansas City. I lose my job two years into a five year deal because I made too much money. Found out that my biological family met my half sister. She told me the reason I was giving up for adoption is because my mother was raped. My mother died, my brother died. Had to sell cars for a living. Got discovered by Chris Ruddy, who called me when I was working one Sunday afternoon, said, rob Carson, where have you been? I said, well, in an abusive relationship with radio. And he goes, man, you're a, you're a star. I'm going to make you a star. And then I had a miraculous curing of alcoholism after years of trying one night after being confronted by my son one night after being hospitalized three times trying to quit drinking, going through what's called dts, which are delirium tremens, which are your, your, your body nearly exploding because of withdrawal. If you, if you quit drinking after drinking heavily for years, your heart rate goes through the ceiling, your BP gross to the ceiling and sometimes you stroke out and die. I had that happen three times. But on January 11th four years ago, I woke up and I couldn't remember the taste of alcohol. And Now I'm about 750 to 800 workouts later and four years of sobriety. And then unfortunately my wife decided that she didn't want to be with me anymore after I'd, you know, fixed everything. Right? It's kind of odd how that would happen, right? So I went through all of this and, and the reason why I share with you is because, you know, I would like you to realize what's possible if you're suffering. I was watching a video this weekend and this guy was saying that this doctor was talking to Bill Maher and he says that, you know, women when they divorce and you know, maybe after they've been married a number of years, they are happier people. Right? That's cool. And I, and I wish her all the best. I do, I do, I do, I do do. But men frequently die younger because they're lonely and sad. And I, and I was, I was very, very, getting very lonely and sad last week, towards the beginning of the week was having some other stuff going on and, and I said, you know what? Bull crap. Freaking bull crap. I moved to Washington D.C. i pulled up everything. I put my stuff in the back of a frickin U haul like a kid right out of college. And I had a studio, a TV studio that I built in Kansas City myself, built a TV and a radio studio, began streaming before Facebook would let you do it. And then I moved. I picked up everything and said, you know what? I got nothing to lose here. My family's no longer intact. My wife doesn't want to spend her life with me anymore. I can stay here in Kansas City and I could go to the store and go to the. The gym and go home, or I can move to Washington, D.C. because, you know, for the last four years, you and I have been together. We've been through hell. The last nine years, we've been through hell. These sons of bees in the media and the left, they tried to put us in jail. They censored us. They took away our ability to express ourselves. They shut us down, said our, our. Our opinions were disinformation and misinformation. We've never seen anything like it. They tried to put our presidential candidate, they stole an election, they put a pudding for brains loser in, and we suffered for four years. And then when Donald Trump announced he was going to win, they came up with 90 surreptitious charges, tried to take him to put him in jail, take his fortune, tried to take him off the battle and tried to murder him. And we got through all of that. I said, by God, I'm going to go to Washington, D.C. then, and I'm here now, and I'm not going to be sad. That's why I did the studio this weekend, because I want to show you what's possible. And I'm not going to be sad. I'm going to be my, you know, somebody is talking. I got a new agent. She's a really cool lady. And I've always had bad luck with agents. They've always been guys, and they've always done a crappy job. And she said, rob, you know what? She goes, you bring people joy. She saw me because I took her down to a place here, Old Town Alexandria on King Street. And I was walking along and I just, I. If I see somebody singing, you know, you know, whatever, I'll jump in and sing along with them or I'll do backup harmonies or I'll, you know, tip the guy playing the guitar or the guys at the car wash up here got a bunch of brown people working at the car wash. And every time I go there and get a car wash, I buy them all breakfast because McDonald's is right there because I feel joy. And she goes, you feel joy and you joy. And I said, you know what? I could project negativity or I could Project Joy. And I'm going to tell you something. The next year, the Democrat Party is going to throw everything at us because they want to win those midterms even though they suck. And so the best thing we can do is what I've been doing the last couple years is saying, overwhelm them with joy and patriotism. And by God, it's real joy. And when I was, you know, with my agent, they saw this group of high school kids and they're all just buzzing. I said, I said, where are you kids from? They said, minnesota. I said, where about Minneapolis? They said, I used to work at KS95. And they all gathered around me, were laughing and stuff, and I just don't have time for it. And like I said, the left is unrelenting. They are going to continue this nonsense. This last year has been just crap. Donald Trump won the election. The left has been throwing a temper tantrum. They said that Elon Musk was a Nazi. They said Donald Trump was a king and an oligarch. They. They have done everything. And by God, we are going to overwhelm them with joy and patriotism and we're going to beat their asses again. That's it. That's why I'm here. I'm here to witness to you. And I'm here to. To bring you joy and humor and use comedy as a cudgel against them because they cannot, the left cannot deal with comedy and. And making fun of them. They can't. I said, conservative comedy is on the ascension because the left can't be taken seriously anymore. And it's true. Greg Gutfeld is a prime example. I started my show three years before his on Saturday nights, and now he's late night. He's got Fox behind him. He's number one because he tells the truth. He does. He does it without Hollywood celebrities. He does it without a band. He does it without musical acts. He just does it. And that's what I'm gonna do here. That's what I'm gonna do here. Make no bones about it. You're here with me. You are here with me. And listen, I do this show in a box by myself right now. All I see in front of me are two lights above me and my face looking in my camera. That's it. And I'm in a box by myself every day. But I can feel you there. I can see you there, and I can tell you there. I can tell you there. I can read your comments on the broadcast, and I know you're there. And When I went out this weekend, I met you. And I'm going to continue to do that because you're here with me. You are. And we're going into 2026, the 250th birthday of this great country. And we are going to turn back every damned negative thing they've said about our country, the country we're proud of, the country that we have served regardless of color, regardless of faith, regardless of sex. We love this country. And we are experiencing rebirth of patriotism and love for this country because we consider ourselves blessed to have been born here or to have come here and become citizens. It is the greatest gift. And we live at an extraordinary time. This will be the most extraordinary year to live in America. I promise you this. It will. And there are only people on the left who are gonna try and take it away from it. But guess what? We're not gonna let it happen, are we? We aren't. And we're going into the holiday season. And by God, it's going to be a glorious holiday season. And I'll just say Christmas and I'll just say Hanukkah, because those are the holidays. Those are the holidays. All right, we've got much to get to on the, on the show. Tony Shaver is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. Michelle Obama is a whiny, spoiled brat. We're going to get to her interview over the weekend. She's blaming white people for straightening her hair and nobody cares. By the way, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Donald Trump are fighting. And Marjorie Taylor Greene is, is honestly committing career and political suicide. We're going to get to all of that. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. You guys remember last week when I told you those last pennies that they were going to press at the Mint because they're getting rid of the penny? I said they'd be worth a lot of money. Guess What? Up to $5 million. After five to $5 million at the, the Philadelphia Mint last Wednesday, they printed the last few pennies, the last five pennies ever made, and they're worth up to $5 million. Also, one of these, these lunatic new mesmetists, these people who collect coins, says that one of the coins was being held by one of the people there. One of the, one of the people who were pressing the coins and he says that because they, they've held it with their fingers, that it's probably. You just don't do that. Copper is very reactive to sweat. And the Oils of the skin. And any serious collector is going to look at this photo and take it into consideration whether they actually touched the penny. I mean, really, dear God, are you kidding me? Okay, whatever I guess people take. If you're willing to spend $5 million for a $0.01 piece, probably something a little wrong with your head. Anyway, so there I am told. Deplorabella, the author of the Chronicles of Deplorabella on Amazon is on the Newsmax hotline. How are you today, my dear?
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Deplorabella
Well, I am still in a whirl of enthusiasm. You preemptively bring education and joy and entertainment to any gathering you join. And it was just so great to see you working on behalf of veterans, incredible charities, and you were just a superstar, as you always are.
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Rob Carson
Well, for those of you who don't know, we had an event in Baltimore and, and Deplorabella's son Scott, who has a band, an 80s band called Weird Science and damn, they're good, by the way. They are really good. I mean, the keyboard player doing Boston, oh my God. And then, oh my. It was so good. It was so good. But anyway, we did this event and we had a live auction and your. Your book came up for sale and. And I started the bidding on this thing. Now, I knew I was going to be in trouble. I knew I was gonna be in trouble, but I'm just gonna leave it at. I have never spent that much money on a book before.
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Deplorabella
It should have been an original transcript from some great author. I appreciate what you did on behalf of the charity.
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Rob Carson
Yeah, we'll raise some money.
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Deplorabella
Left me shaking with joy and amazement at your generosity, Rob.
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Rob Carson
It was fun. It was fun. Go ahead.
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Deplorabella
I'm calling on behalf of preemption and I want to speak in its favor. When Benjamin Netanyahu knew that Iran was plotting and planning for decade take Israel out and to have a nuclear capability, he didn't sit back and say, well, let's just wait and see what they do. Nor did President Trump. Both of them understood what was coming and both of them said, no, no, we're not playing this waiting game to assuage the conscience of the left who wants us annihilated anyway. We're going to do what we have to do for the security of our respective countries. And that's what they did. So now I am calling for the more preemptive action by President Trump. I want to see him end the filibuster and pack the Supreme Court. Why? Because this is what the Democrats have promised they will do and they will do it. They will resort to by any means necessary, because that's what communists, Islamists, and globalist enemies of this country do. If he packs the court, he will be able to finally codify all of his executive orders into law. He will be able to rid himself of the lawfare being waged by these judges who were already instructed by the Supreme Court that they do not have the jurisdiction in their entities to stop national measures. But they're doing it anyway. And Trump, because he has been a champion of the Constitution, has not ignored them the way Biden did. When it came to the forgiving student loans, the Supreme Court said no twice. He did it anyway. The court was powerless to stop him. It is time for Trump to stop this cabal of pretend conservative constitutionalists who are really advocates for the left. They want to be part of the social milieu in D.C. and they have betrayed him time and time again. So put in people who are bona fide fighters, people who you know will uphold the constitution. That's point one. Point two. He needs to declare D.C. not only a federal entity, but to return any land he doesn't want to deal with to Maryland. And to help those parts of our states who are sick and tired of being ruled by blue governors and sanctuary cities and states help them to secede. Parts of Oregon want to go to Idaho. Parts of Virginia want to go to West Virginia. Parts of California are just hoping for an earthquake that will sever the west permanently and drop it into the Pacific. Also, Rob, wouldn't that be colossal pollution of an innocent ocean? But in any event, he needs to assist them in their efforts. And that would be additional states. And he needs to pass laws that say that Puerto Rico cannot become a state. They were given the opportunity to vote several times. Statehood, independence, commonwealth, whatever. Well, you know what? I, as an American citizen, want to determine whether or not Puerto Rico becomes a state. And I say no, I don't want it to become a state. It is too mired in corruption. There's too much of a tradition of culture there that is antithetical to American values and assimilation. In any event, he needs to take strong action. We can no longer have judges telling this man what his executive authority is, even though the Constitution makes it clear. He's commander in chief, he heads the executive branch of government. He could fire anyone he damn pleases. And the fact that he was so what? Beneficent in his dealings with federal workers during the shutdown is a remarkable testament to his.
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Rob Carson
Now, in closing things, by the way, deplorabella you're exactly right on the, on the filibuster because they are going to and already planning on a government shutdown in January. They're going to do it. Deplorabella. The Democrats are going to try and do it again in January.
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Deplorabella
He's also correct in wanting to primary those Republicans like Rand Paul who are just too precious by half or a congressman like Macy who are so, you know, they're so in love with their own narcissistic image that they can't stop screwing Trump and pretending that they are the real voice of maga. No, these people have to go. Marjorie Taylor Greene, you've had your 15 minutes of fame and exceeded it. Enough, enough. And I'm not saying that people on the right have to all conform, but there ought to be some sense of party loyalty. There ought to be some devotion to the principles which them elected or reelected.
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Rob Carson
Listen, we've got to run. Deplorabella, as always, you are brilliant. The book is called Chronicles of Deplorabella. You'll pay a lot less than I did if you just go to Amazon. God bless you and yours on this Thanksgiving, my dear, and a glorious holiday season. We'll talk again soon, okay?
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Deplorabella
And to you, Rob. Love you, babe.
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Rob Carson
All right. You too. You too. She's an amazing, amazing person and I am blessed to know her. You are blessed to have been able to hear her thoughts and you will continue to do so. Coming up, Colonel Tony Schaefer joins us next to talk about Venezuela and other things on the other side of this break. And this is the ROB CARSON show. Hey guys, it's Rob Carson for quints.com I've lost some weight, been working out. I'm single again. I'm ready to look good. I've not taken the time to feel good about myself or shop for myself really for a long time. But I chose Quince. There's so many bad brands out there. Quince.com gives you the value and quality, not just cheap stuff that looks lousy doesn't last. I got an amazing blazer from Quints that looks great with dress, pants, khakis or jeans. And I know it'll look timeless for years. Go to quints.com newsmax for free shipping on your orders and 365 day returns. Quints also has gifting covered beyond clothing, too. You can pick up anything for home, bath, kitchen or travel. Give and get timeless holiday staples that last with quince. Go to quince.com that's Q U I N C E.com Newsmax for free shipping and 365 day returns. That's quince.com Newsmax. Give and get timeless quality staples that last this season with Quince. That's quince.com newsmax.
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Democratic Party Analyst
The question is what is the future of Democratic leadership? Who is going to be effective? And most Democrats around the country just don't think that person is Chuck Schumer. I mean he doesn't inspire confidence. He's not bold. He's out of touch with the grassroots. He's someone who cheer led us into the war in Iraq. He was doesn't have the moral clarity on Gaza. He couldn't say Mamdani's name. And this was the final straw where he was not strong on fighting for health care.
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Deplorabella
So who is the person who you think should lead Democrats into the future in the Senate? Who's at the top of that?
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Rob Carson
Who's on the bench?
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Democratic Party Analyst
Well, Senator Katie has already given me a hard time for just saying that their minority leader should be someone different. I think if I endorsed someone it would probably hurt them or then help them. But we have dynamic young new leaders. Chris Murphy.
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Rob Carson
Who are the dynamic young ones?
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Democratic Party Analyst
Top leader Chris.
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Rob Carson
Chris Murphy's in his 50s.
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Democratic Party Analyst
Dynamic leader Brian Schatz.
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Rob Carson
Cory Booker is in his 50s.
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Democratic Party Analyst
A dynamic leader. I mean Elizabeth Warren is someone who's.
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Rob Carson
Elizabeth Warren is 76 years old.
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Democratic Party Analyst
I appreciate there's a lot of great talent and really is Chuck Schumer when you think about it, just from a common sense. Do you think Democrats around the country think that?
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Rob Carson
Wow. All four of the dynamic young leaders that he talked about are senior citizens. That is Rogata. They have no bench. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Joining us on the Newsmax hotline is Colonel Tony Schaefer. Hello, my friend. How are you on this glorious Monday?
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Hey, Rob. It's a beautiful day and always great to join you. Thanks for having me.
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Rob Carson
I might mention you're also lieutenant colonel U.S. army retired president of Project Sentinel and a 2020 Trump campaign national security advisor. Yeah. That's your Democrat Party. They are the, the, the bench is, is for people who are at least over 50 and one who's over 70. And I think this is why the Democrat Party is doing all of this distraction. Obviously the shutdown was the next big thing and it failed. But they're trying to distract from the fact that they have nobody on the bench except for and did you notice that AOC wasn't mentioned? Did you know this, that the communists and socialists were not mentioned there by, by Ro Khanna? Did you Notice that.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
So Roe is, well, it's kind of strange because I consider Roe a real Marxist, by the way. Just if you just look at what he says, he's constantly trying to promote collectivization of resources, the whole idea. And by the way, Rob, why do, why do you and I have to pay $1.5 trillion to supplement someone else's health care? Because that's what we're trying to say we need to do. He's of that mind. But to your point, it's like, I don't know, I think if you took Nancy Pelosi and talked her out of retiring, you could probably find a way to like, get her, like, blood from younger people. Maybe they could, like, go in and have aoc, like transfuse blood to Nancy.
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Rob Carson
Well, I have said for years that Hillary Clinton bathes in the blood of virgins because I think she's actually 1000 years old. Wouldn't surprise me. And listen, listen, if Nancy could do that, you know, she'd do it. If it required, if it required to sacrifice infants, she'd do it. She would. Let's talk a little bit about Venezuela. I'm very curious as your thoughts on this. I thought it was really, really, really cool last week, Marco Rubio's thoughts basically on the, on Europe being mad that we're blowing up drug booths. He basically told Europe they can, they can suck it. What are your thoughts on Donald Trump? And he also mentioned possibility of talking to Maduro. What do you, what do you suppose is going on there, bro?
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Well, I think there's a back channel open to Maduro right now. There's no doubt that something's going on because Trump even said, yeah, I'm going to give a little bit of time. Normally, Rob, Trump will give someone time to think about it and find their own way out. And if not, yes, there's going to be some very, very severe consequences in Venezuela. We're almost done with the drug votes. I think we're going to go for some internal targets next. But yes, I think that's where this is going. And by the way, I said this on Newsmax on Sunday morning because I was getting some pushback from some folks saying, well, you know, where's the authority for us to do all this stuff? It's like, look, we've had the authority to go after drug groups for years. It's called the Authorized Use of Military Force, aumf. And so what's more likely, are we more likely to have an al Qaeda terrorist do something on the homeland or A narco terrorist who has done something has been involved with the murder of tens of thousands of people. So I don't care what the Europeans say. We have the right to defend our country against all enemies whether they're terrorists who want to blow us up or terrorists who want to use fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction to basically kill people.
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Rob Carson
You know, Tony, listen, listen. As far as I'm concerned, all no holds barred. That SOB in charge of Venezuela has been emptying his prisons into our country. I don't give a flying rip what Donald Trump does to Venezuela. As far as I'm concerned, he paint all the targets in the world. Use napalm if you have to. I don't even give a crap. Do whatever is necessary to take these people out and Rand Paul can stick it. Honestly. And I'm going to tell you something, as far as these idiots who, you know, these incrementalists, you know, say well when are we sending Coast Guard and we'll pull them over and we'll screw that. There is nothing that makes me happier. There's nothing that makes me happy than lighting up a target like he's, he's doing with these drug boats. Go ahead.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Yeah, we. So Rob, we tried that in the 90s, it didn't work.
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Rob Carson
Yes.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Yeah, we tried being nice. Nice like oh yeah, we'll just pull them over and give him a ticket. Yeah. So you gotta kill him.
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Rob Carson
Yeah. There was no, no hold barred as far as they are concerned. And like I said, these people have been unloading their prisons into our country. We have also. Had you ever heard of Trend Nicaragua before Joe Biden was the president? No, of course not. So as far as I'm concerned they have. This is a war. They have been at war with us. We just have never struck back. This is reciprocity to say the least. To say the least. Did you see the protests in Mexico? A lot of Gen Z Mexico kids are sick and damn tired of the control of the Mexican government by the cartels there. It sounds like the, the head of Mexico is getting a little heat from the younger generations. And let's face it, that country is run by cartels.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Well, let's break that down a little bit. I think that's where President Trump's going with all this because not only Mexico but all these narco nations, rob 40, about 40% of their GDP is from illegal drugs. Think about that.
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Rob Carson
Yeah.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
So the moment. And that's why the President of Mexico said oh yeah, we're not going to go after cartels because we're going to, quote, unquote, violate their rights. Like, right, Screw that.
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Rob Carson
Screw that. You know what they are? You know what Mexico is? Mexico. Mexico is a sucker fish on the great white shark of America. And honestly, I've said forever. I said all Donald Trump would have to do is say you cut off immigration or we end all trade and travel with Mexico and Mexico dies. Mexico dies. That's just it. And, you know, you can be a kindly neighbor south of us and live in the good graces of the safety and security and economic freedom of America, or you can get cut off. Now, I want to mention this also because last week Donald Trump and if Cash Patel came back from China and they are taking away all the precursors, all the precursors to build fentanyl. And so it looks like fentanyl, you know, if you're addicted to it, you might want to get some because it ain't going to be coming in like it used to. Maybe, you know, I mean, it's been majorly interrupted.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
So, yeah, we're trying to go both ways of denying the supply and then denying the profitability. So back to the point of these nations. This is why both Colombia and the British think about this. The British now are denying this intel sharing on this because guess what, those British possessions, it's called possessions the British have in the Caribbean, they all have the same thing. This is all about British banking, too. How much of global banking benefits from this? There's a great episode. I'm a big fan of Miami Vice, Season 2, Part 2 of Particle Prodigal Son.
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Rob Carson
Yes.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Go watch the end of that episode. Sonny Crockett and Ricardo Tubbs end up talking to a banker. I'll just leave it at that.
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Rob Carson
Yeah. But I'm just. Yeah, yeah.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
President Trump's target here is global banking. One step past the whole drug thing.
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Rob Carson
That is fantastic. Tony, can you hold on? Because on the other side, I want to talk about new block blockbuster information about gasp shriek, Ukraine may be corrupt. I want to talk about that next. I know, I know. I'm as shocked as you are. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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Donald Trump (quoted)
We like to keep Congress involved. I mean, we're stopping drug dealers and drugs from coming into our country. And I actually told Marco and some of the people our Secretary of State is doing a great job, by the way. I said go to Congress and let them know we're not letting drugs come through Mexico, we're not letting them come through Venezuela and let Congress know about it, we don't have to get their approval, but I think letting them know is good. The only thing I don't want them to do is leak information that's very important and confidential and may put our military at risk or whoever is doing, you know, CIA, military, etc. But I did say, I said go and see Congress, see the, the representatives that we're supposed to be seeing and be open about it.
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Rob Carson
Yeah, that's Donald Trump talking about he's not going to stop bombing drug boats, he's not going to stop disrupting the, the narco traffickers. And as Tony Shaver mentioned a moment ago, a lot of people, a lot of banks make a lot of money off of narco trafficking around the world and they don't care where that money comes from, do they?
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Exactly. And that's the point. We have so many illicit and illegal activities. By the way, spoiler alert. We're going to come to find that there's members of Congress on both sides who didn't make money off this. Just saying.
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Rob Carson
Yep, yep, 100%. There has to be, there has to be a reason why no one said a damn thing about the southern border being open despite all of the trafficking of children of women and everything else. There had to be somebody getting paid. Here's the headline. Ukraine scrambles to limit damage from blockbuster corruption scandal. Believe it or not, it's in the energy sector over there. Can you believe that? The energy sector is one of the many sectors over there that are corrupt. Tony, did it come as a surprise to you?
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
No. I think we ought to pull Hunter Biden out of retirement, send him over to investigate, don't you think?
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Rob Carson
Yes. Well, that's what the top officials are rushing to reassure Kiev's Western partners after alleging $100 million kick scheme in the energy sector. Burisma, anyone? But we also, Tony, know that after sending Ukraine $200 billion and they essentially didn't know where it all went, I mean, this country has been corrupt from the get go.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Oh, by the way, there was a vote under Biden by Congress saying, yeah, they basically voted against doing auditing of the money going there. Again, people are on the take and I think a lot of things are being washed back via usaid, which is now stuck. But there's still stuff in the pipeline that they're getting. There's all sorts of things, Rob, that we now know. And this is where President Trump has to continue to have the fortitude and the courage to do what's necessary. Because again, this is nonpartisan. We're going to come to find that Republicans, some of the Republicans were just as much involved as the Democrats and we need to accept after what it is and go after whoever was involved, whoever's been basically kind of going along to get along and making money on the back end, which a lot of people I think have been doing.
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Rob Carson
They use the faux patriotism. At the very, very beginning of the war, they had Zelensky come and speak to Congress. They draped the damned Ukrainian flag over our, over the Speakers House Speakers desk in the, in the houses of Congress. And Ukraine has always been a massive money laundering operation for the despots of the world.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Yep. So we mean, you know, the fact that we've cut back on it doesn't mean we shouldn't account for it. The 300 billion that's been spent. And the Democrats said, oh, it wouldn't. 300 billion? Yes, yes, it was. About two thirds of that was defense spending. And then the rest of it was all of these loans which Congress said, oh yeah, yeah, we gave you the loan, don't worry about paying it back, you can keep that. That all counts towards the money we gave them as well. So we do need to have accountability. And by the way, all roads lead back to Zelensky. I'm just saying that's where this is.
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Rob Carson
All going to go. Yeah. And he's also gotten rid of elections, so he's in right now. How do you suppose that America? Because I, I've said. And when at the very beginning of this conflict, I said this, this war, this conflict, all of this money is going to pad the retirement accounts of American members of Congress. So how do you suppose some of that money, you know, may have made it way back, back from Ukraine to, to benefit American politicians?
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Well, two ways. First, and the most obvious is when these guys get speaking fees. Remember, Rob, these guys don't have to report quite everything they get. I mean, there's ways they can hide it. And so they, they go get, they go to these big organizations, they get to get paid to talk. That's one way. Secondly, they have family members who have think tanks and NGOs. Think about it. They have all these people who are, you know, running think tanks and non governmental organizations. Trust me, this is where we need to kick that ant hill over and start looking at all this stuff going on because we're going to come to find that people on both sides of the aisle were getting all these, these kickbacks, the USAID getting paid through speaking fees and other things. Oh, by the way, there's a big scan. Somebody writes a book, nobody reads the book. You're going to read Kamala Harris's book. Well, of course you're not. They buy these books, they put them in a warehouse and big corporations buy them and pay people off. It's a scam.
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Rob Carson
And by the way, if they're Talking about a $100 million kickback scheme, I think this is a distraction. I think there's much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much more beer. God, I tell you, Tony, I appreciate you so much, man. Tony Schaefer, where can people find all your work, bro?
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Colonel Schaefer to colonelsonshaper.com check us out there. And we're doing stuff on my X account to special interviews and debriefing. So check us out. Check me out on X. Tony Schaefer, she's spooky. And Colonel Schaefer.com Colonel Tonyshafer.com all right.
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Rob Carson
God bless your brother and a glorious thanksgiving to you and yours. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.
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Stephanie Rule
This show is the very last broadcast for MSNBC from 30 Rock, because tomorrow, in just a few, actually, in just a few minutes, MSNBC becomes Ms. Now. And I can tell you this. I cannot wait. You, the audience who I've gotten to know and love and appreciate, I cannot wait to take you with me into our new future. I'm excited about what is to come. And I cannot wait to see you at the end of Monday.
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Rob Carson
There you go. That is Stephanie Rule signing off. MSNBC and MSNBC is dead, but they're saying basically, same mission, new name, so they're not going to change it all. And by the way, for those of you who don't know, this is a little montage of all the things that MSNBC was wrong about and why they're no longer. Start your tape right now because I'm.
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Democratic Party Analyst
About to tell you the truth and f you if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is.
- [37:19]
Rob Carson
The best Biden ever.
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Democratic Party Analyst
Not a close second.
- [37:22]
Rob Carson
And I've known virus being able to.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Hop from person to person to person.
- [37:27]
Rob Carson
Potentially mutating and becoming more virulent and.
- [37:29]
Colonel Tony Schaefer
Drug resistant along the way. Now, we know that the vaccines work.
- [37:33]
Stephanie Rule
Well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.
- [37:38]
Colonel Tony Schaefer
Police station.
- [37:38]
Rob Carson
There are fires burning in different directions around me.
- [37:41]
Colonel Tony Schaefer
There's another fire over there. You can see from the aerial shots.
- [37:43]
Rob Carson
And to your point a moment ago, I want to be clear in how.
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
I characterize this this is a mostly a protest.
- [37:50]
Rob Carson
It is not, it is not, generally speaking, unruly.
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Donald Trump (quoted)
You believe the president right now has been an agent of the Russians?
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Colonel Tony Schaefer
Yes, I think there's more evidence than he is. Yes. And I think all the arrows point in that direction. And I haven't seen a single piece of evidence that he's not an agent.
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Donald Trump (quoted)
Like in the 1940s where he had people who are reds to use an alternative like that. In other words, working for a foreign.
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Rob Carson
Policy as a reason why MSNB said doesn't exist anymore. It's because they, they lie. This is the first Christmas song of the season. Although we did it last year from Jim Gossett.
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Political Commentator
MSNBC is crashing. They're paying for their Trump trashing, especially Morning Joe. Let him go. Let him go. Let him go. CNN is also slippin.
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Rob Carson
Yeah.
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Political Commentator
In the ratings, how they're dipping. Nobody watches Jake Tapper show.
- [38:44]
Rob Carson
Yeah, he got fired.
- [38:45]
Political Commentator
Let him go. Let him go. Let him go.
- [38:47]
Rob Carson
No, he still has a job.
- [38:48]
Political Commentator
It is time to get rid of Joy Reid.
- [38:51]
Rob Carson
Yeah, she's gone.
- [38:52]
Political Commentator
And take Anderson off the air.
- [38:54]
Rob Carson
He's still got a job.
- [38:55]
Political Commentator
Dana Bash they really don't need think.
- [38:58]
Rob Carson
She'S got a job.
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Political Commentator
If she left, no one would care. Now Santa sent Mika a letter said the sooner you leave the better. Bye gone Lemon of said with a ho ho ho. Let her go, let her go, let her go.
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Rob Carson
There you go. So, yeah, it's, it's the same crap. They're just calling it Ms. Now. So it's like if you, if you had a, a menu and it was a crap sandwich and you just decided to name it the Mered Sandwich, then that's what's happening at msnbc. And they won't last long doing that, by the way, because you see, all the lies that they told the last many years were uncovered, resulted in their demise. So this is just the latest coat of paint. I'll just put it that way. On the way Michelle Obama blames white people for straightening her hair. Also MTG and Donald Trump's war for words and the butler shooting, if we get to it, all the questions that still exist, there were other people involved. I'll just say it coming up. Don't go anywhere.
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Deplorabella
Sam.