Trump’s Peace Plan Shocks the World — K.T. McFarland Tells All

Summary

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The Rob Carson Show

Episode: Trump’s Peace Plan Shocks the World — K.T. McFarland Tells All
Air Date: October 23, 2025
Guest: KT McFarland

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Overview

This episode features political commentary, satirical takes on current U.S. events, and an in-depth interview with former Deputy National Security Advisor KT McFarland. The main focus is Donald Trump's shock peace plan in the Middle East, evolving global dynamics, and a humorous yet critical lens on U.S. politics, especially regarding the New York mayoral race and progressive policies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Political Satire & Election Talk

• Rob Carson opens with characteristic humor, poking fun at politicians and the current state of major urban centers, especially NYC.
• Discussion about political candidates perceived as "radical leftists," such as Zoran Mandami in NYC.
• Critique of progressive policy proposals, with a focus on the feasibility and impact of a $30 minimum wage and rent control.
• Carson targets "faculty lounge Marxists" and "academic Marxists" in government, highlighting frustration with elite detachment from working-class realities.

2. New York Mayoral Race (04:00–13:00)

• Extended commentary on the primary debate, primarily criticizing Zoran Mandami, his resume, and policy proposals.
• Guest soundbites from debate participants, including Andrew Cuomo and Mandami himself.
• Discussion of small business concerns and real-world impacts of heightened minimum wage.
• Robust mocking of leftist policies and caricature of socialist ideals.

Notable Quote:

• Andrew Cuomo on Mandami: "You have never had a job. You've never accomplished anything. There's no reason to believe you have any merit or qualification for 8 and a half million lives." (05:11)

3. Maryland and Virginia Politics (13:00–19:00)

• Carson shifts to regional politics, expressing optimism about Republican candidates in Virginia.
• Critiques Maryland's decline due to overregulation, high costs, and progressive social engineering.
• Discusses demographic data: a net exodus from Maryland to other states due to cost and regulation.
• Decries educational system changes, LGBTQ curriculum mandates, and general economic mismanagement.

4. Interview: KT McFarland on Trump’s Middle East Peace Plan (22:15–37:13)

Israel, Hamas, and the Trump Doctrine (22:15–25:50)

• KT McFarland explains the fragility and complexity of Trump’s peace deal, emphasizing constant negotiation and “BB-sitting” by sending U.S. envoys.
• Trump threatens to “cut Israel adrift” if it annexes the West Bank, aiming to keep all parties focused on peace.
• McFarland notes that Hamas is internationally isolated and financially starved; its only choices are laying down arms or facing obliteration.

Notable Quote:

• KT McFarland: "At this point, Hamas is isolated ... their money support from Iran, that's gone... The day after Hamas is gone, there's a massive rebuilding program in Gaza." (22:52)

Venezuela, Latin America, and Foreign Policy (25:50–28:34)

• Trump’s administration is described as taking a more active interest in Latin America, combating the influence of communism, cartels, and China.
• Emphasis on using economic and diplomatic pressure rather than military force for potential regime change (“no forever wars”).
• Praise for Trump’s support of regional reformers and economic statecraft over intervention.

Notable Quotes:

• KT McFarland: "The problem that the whole continent faces is communism, the cartels and China." (26:25)
• "What you'll see is President Trump may want regime change ... but that doesn't mean send in the Marines. That means use other pressures..." (28:07)

U.S.–Mexico Policy and Drug Cartels (28:34–29:29)

• Addressing drug trafficking, McFarland endorses actions to “seal the border” and blow up drug boats smuggling fentanyl as necessary escalations in the war on cartels.

Notable Quote:

• KT McFarland: "Blowing up a couple of ships that are carrying fentanyl and drugs into the United States, more power to them." (29:29)

Trump’s “No Kings” Meme & Protest Satire (30:31–31:25)

• Discussion of the recent leftist "No Kings" protests and Trump’s viral meme response placing a crown on his head.
• Both Carson and McFarland see these protests and memes as evidence of the left’s ideological exhaustion.

Notable Quote:

• KT McFarland: "They're offering nothing. And they're linear and linear by the day. No sense of humor." (31:25)

5. New York Mayoral Race: Stakes & Predictions (32:00–34:28)

• McFarland warns that a Mandami victory would rapidly deteriorate the city, leading to bankruptcy and federal bailout requests, which Trump would likely refuse.
• Satirical takes on left-wing outrage over Trump’s renovations to the White House.

Notable Quote:

• KT McFarland: "If the communist wins, New York will go bad really fast ... New York will go bankrupt. New York will be like it was in the early 1970s." (33:03)

6. Humor, Satire & The Gutfeld Show (35:10–37:02)

• Lighthearted segment as Carson asks McFarland about her appearances on Gutfeld, discussing the fun and improvisational energy.
• McFarland enjoys skewering “crazy left wing nuts,” which she finds therapeutic and entertaining.

Notable Quote:

• KT McFarland: "Greg Gutfeld and the people on his show, they love to poke fun at crazy left wing nuts. And so what a great laugh it is. So I have a terrific time." (35:21)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 04:00–13:00: In-depth coverage/mocking of NYC mayoral debate, minimum wage proposal discussion.
• 13:00–19:00: Maryland & Virginia politics, demographic exodus, critique of progressive governance.
• 22:15–37:13: KT McFarland interview with detailed Trump peace plan analysis, Latin America, protests, and Gutfeld anecdotes.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Mandami’s candidacy:
  • Rob Carson: "It's a crap sandwich versus a crab sandwich with double crap. You know, honestly, they're both just awfully inedible and ridiculous." (05:00)
• On socialist policies:
  • Rob Carson: "But that's what these starry-eyed socialist idiots do. But he's worse than that. He also hates the Jews, so there's that. And he wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth, so there is that." (06:36)
• On Trump’s strategy:
  • KT McFarland: "We're calling it now it's not babysitting, it's BB-sitting ... to make sure that his flank doesn't sort of sabotage the deal." (23:43)
• On protest culture:
  • Rob Carson: "They really are. They are like petulant children, aren't they? Throwing a temper tantrum because they lost." (31:01)
• On leftist losses:
  • KT McFarland: "The great thing about what I love about President Trump is he just knows how to stir the pot. He knows how to get their goat." (31:25)

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Tone & Style

• Signature irreverent, no-holds-barred conservative humor from Rob Carson; frequent asides and off-the-cuff remarks.
• KT McFarland maintains a composed, pragmatic tone, offering strategic insight delivered with dry wit.
• Plenty of sarcastic takedowns of progressive policies and politicians; heavy use of metaphors, pop culture references, and callbacks to Carson's comedy writing origins.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a lively combination of comedic political commentary and genuinely substantive foreign policy insight. Rob Carson’s satire presides over domestic political squabbles, while KT McFarland lends gravitas to U.S. global strategy and highlights the calculated intricacies of Trump’s peace initiatives. The episode is a mix of sharp mockery for the American left, concern for U.S. cities caught in progressive malaise, and high-level geopolitical analysis—wrapped up in a breezy, entertaining format.

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Transcript

[Rob Carson]

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[KT McFarland]

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[Rob Carson]

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[Andrew Cuomo]

You have never had a job. You've never accomplished anything. There's no reason to believe you have any merit or qualification for 8 and a half million lives. You don't know how to run a government. You don't know how to handle an emergency. And you've literally never proposed the bill.

[Rob Carson]

You probably never done your own laundry. Your mom has done it. But for God's sake, I mean literally, his, his on his resume had had a, he did an internship with his.

[Andrew Cuomo]

Mom on anything that you're now talking about in your campaign. You had the worst attendance record in the assembly and you gave yourselves the highest raise in the United States of America. You went from $110,000 to $140,000 and then you never showed up for work and you missed 80% of the votes. Shame on you. Shame on you.

[Rob Carson]

It's honestly, it is, it is preposterous to think that he is the, the candidate that is out in front. Here he is talking about what he wants by, by the year 2030, which is what, five years away. Think about this view on a small business. Do you own a small business? Do you own a coffee shop? Do you want a whatever, do you want to repair shop? Do you, Are you a farmer? Although it wouldn't be a farmer in New York. And yet farmers are generally, forget the farmers. But you know what I say, if you own a small business, imagine $30 minimum wage. $30 minimum wage. Here he is. And this is what happens to starry eyed socialists who go to faculty lounges and sit around and mentally masturbate and say that the reason why communists didn't work is that it wasn't done properly. But either way it ended up with a couple hundred million people murdered last century. Generally that'd be enough to make you go, I don't think it's maybe a good idea. I don't think we try to per something that has left so many people in body pits starving to death, you know, instead of, instead of putting a new coat of paint on it. But that's what these starry eyed socialist idiots do. But he's worse than that. He also hates the Jews, so there's that. And he wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth, so there is that. But here he is talking about the $30 minimum wage and then Donald Trump Jr. S response.

[Zoran Mandami]

And the reason that we put forward $30 by 2030 is that is because.

[Rob Carson]

You don't have to pay it. Cuz you've never run a business in your life, you idiot. You don't even know what it would do to the cup of coffee, the cost of a cup of coffee at your coffee shop if you had to pay somebody $240 for an eight hour shift with an hour off for lunch.

[Zoran Mandami]

That's the minimum that a New Yorker needs to be paid to be able to afford to live.

[Rob Carson]

Guess what? You gotta leave the city. Oh, there you go. It's not my business that I have to pay you to be able to live in New York City. I don't live in New York City. You know, I don't live in New York City. Well, because I didn't want to live in New York City, but there was a time I did and I couldn't afford it. I can't afford to live in, you know, Marseille either. For God's sake. I can't live in San Francisco either. You know why? I can't afford it. But I'm not going to go to move to New York and say, demand that I get free health care so I can afford to live here. Move the hell out of the city. The Democrat Party has made it unaffordable with regulation, with taxes and nonsense. You can't afford to live there anymore. Too bad. Go live in Rochester. Go live in frickin Pennsylvania. But you gotta move city.

[Zoran Mandami]

Our proposal that we've put forward would be phased in over a longer period of time for small business owners to ensure that they could deal with this. And it's also one that we are confident we would be able to accomplish. It's absolutely ridiculous. You've seen how this has played out in places like California where Gavin Newsom did that with a lot of small business owners and a lot of, you know, fast food areas other than.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, $20 minimum wage at all the fast food. You know how many fast food jobs were lost?

[Zoran Mandami]

20,000 when he was carving out his special interest donors. It didn't work out.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I'm sorry if you're 45 years old and your job is working the fryer at McDonald's.

[Zoran Mandami]

It's not my fault people were replaced with iPads. That's what's going to happen. The reality is small businesses cannot cover that kind of nut. They cannot pay someone $30 an hour to do menial work. It doesn't work that way.

[Rob Carson]

You know what high school students don't need 30 friggin dollars an hour when they live at home. And those are the people who do the bloody jobs. Okay? That's it. Sorry. Ain't my problem you ain't got no skills. Ain't my problem you made poor life decisions and all you can do is something that can be replaced by a robot flipping french fries. Really, it's not my problem you don't deserve $30 an hour to do that. People in my life who don't make $30 an hour. Dear God. Here he is. This is, this is your typical faculty lounge. Liberal, lived in mom's basement. Never done a damned thing in his life with his, his dream of all of the things he's going to try that have been tried a million times before and they've fallen flat every damn time. But every. Here comes another generation of ignoramuses who haven't had to do a damn thing in their lives. I just read a thing the other day. The average adult child in this country, up to like 25 years old, gets 1400 dollars a month from their parents. You know. You know how much I got when I left, when I left home? D word for Richard. Yeah, that means nothing, by the way. But here's, here's Zoran with his moist dream about what. What is possible, but it's not.

[Andrew Cuomo]

Nothing is going to happen.

[Zoran Mandami]

Now, if you want a candidate for mayor who tells you everything that he cannot do, then Andrew Cuomo should be your choice. If you want a candidate for mayor who will use every tool at their disposal, including the nine appointees at the Rent Guidelines Board, all of whom are appointed by the mayor, then I am the candidate for you.

[Rob Carson]

So this is how he's going to bring down rents. He's not going to own buildings. He's just going to use this board of government to force people to accept a certain amount of rent. You see? You see what he's doing? My God. I'm still holding out hope that he'll be taken down. You lucked out. Due to overwhelming demand for free silver from Birch Gold, they've extended their current promotion through Veterans day, which is November 11th. Now, I mentioned this. You buy gold, you get free silver. Also surging in price. By the way, you get one of these. I'm going to show it to you streamers. Now, it is a silver round. It's one troy ounce of silver. It's very pretty. It's very collectible. Has the Gasden and American flags on the back of it. For every $5,000 invested in gold From Birch Gold, you get a free 1oz patriotic silver round that commemorates the gas and American flags. Gold's up 60% this year, guys. 60% this year. You might want to get on the gold train, all right. Before it's too expensive for you to afford it, honestly. Right, right. So text my name, Rob, to 989898. You're gonna get a free info kit from Birch Gold. It's very simple. I did it the other day because I have a little bit of a. A little something from the divorce settlement. Yeah. So fun. Might as well make something good out of it. Might as well turn crap into gold, huh? Yeah, it's me. You could turn crap into gold. Oh, my God. Text my name, Rob. I'm laughing on the outside, but I'm crying on the inside. Text my name, Rob, to the number 989-898 for a free gold info kit. Claim your eligibility for free silver with the purchase from before November 9, and then also Birch Gold waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount for veterans. Thank you very much. Text my name, Rob, to 989-8984, Birchgold. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show. It is a Rob Carson Show. KT McFarlane joins us at the bottom of the hour. She's always a joy. You know what, she's an amazing woman and I just like her attitude. Everything. She goes on Gutfeld show and gives him a little what fur and she just does it with a look. She's. She's amazing. By the way, for lieutenant governor of the state of Virginia, new poll has John Reed ahead of his radical leftist, I mean, bat guano, crazy liberal academic opponent, Ghazala Hajmi, 44.8 to 44.6. Undecided, 8.2. That's big. That's. She is as left as it gets. She is a faculty lounge Marxist. She has no business being in office. Same goes with Abigail Spamberger. And I see a lot of her signs around Northern Virginia where I live, because, you know, there are a bunch of, you know, a bunch of leftists here have no idea. They're, you know, they got a. They got a minimum price house of $700,000 around here. So they don't even think about people who are living in trailers just struggling to get by. But I got a good feeling about this race. I got a good feeling about the race. And then also for. For Attorney general Jay Jones, of course, fantasized about murdering political opponent and his and his kids. Yeah. And so that race has moved very much toward Jason Moret Miaris. And there's some things happening there that are kind of interesting. Here is Winsome Sears. Abigail Spamberger has been running this ad that features Winsome Sears on stage saying, I'm talking now. And you know, and it's, it's, it's, it's in a loop and it's something they've been pounding into the dirt. And I'm like, how is Winsome going to take on that ad? And she did beautifully.

[KT McFarland]

They pick your worst day. I'm speaking now. They twist your words and I think that's good. They say you're not polished. Seriously, I'm Winsome Earl Sears. I'm running for governor to educate, not indoctrinate. Grow paychecks instead of hate and keep Virginia moving the right direction. As your governor, I won't be a polished politician, but as United States Marine, I'll always fight for Virginia.

[Rob Carson]

I love it, I love it, I love it. And I was talking to John Reed about, you know, Maryland. I moved from Maryland 11 years ago, moved to Kansas City. And Maryland is really descended into hell. And the thing is that Marylanders are there like that frog in boiling water. You know, the water is at a boiling temperature, but they've been sitting in the water since it was lukewarm, so they don't even know they're on fire. They don't even notice it. And you know, the medians are on, are untrimmed and the pot pot stores and the pawn shops have moved into where they used to be thriving businesses. And the Lake Forest Mall in Germantown, we say still abandoned. Still abandoned. Ten years later, abandoned, overrun with weeds. It looks like frickin escape from New York. And they're all like, oh no, everything's great. We're Democrats, we're fine. I mean, you people are just nothing. You drive across to Virginia, it's Oz. There's a new report from a TV station in Maryland about Maryland. This is, thank God it's happening. I mean it. I mean, this is California, this is New York. This is every liberal bastion where people are saying we're done. An unsettling housing trend has developed in Maryland. And this is why Virginia can't become Maryland. Because if Abigail Spamberger is the governor, it will. The past decade or so, simply put, it shows that more people are moving out than in hundreds of thousands more. In fact, WBOC's Kyle Owens joins us live now Newsplex with that. Kyle, you are hearing that this downward trend is frustrating but not exactly shocking.

[News Reporter (Kyle Owens)]

David we spoke with Republican Delegate Wayne Hartman and Bill Chambers with the Salisbury Chamber of Commerce today and both say they saw this coming. Still, it doesn't make it easier to stomach a situation they say is happening for a number of reasons. The data does not lie. This report from Maryland's comptroller Brooke Lehrman shows that between 2010 and 2023, 2.3 million people moved out of the state.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I moved out in 2014.

[News Reporter (Kyle Owens)]

In that same time, 2 million people moved in.

[Zoran Mandami]

We're a high cost state to do business in. We're a heavily taxed state. There's no advantage for retirees to live in the state of Maryland. Tax advantage anyway.

[News Reporter (Kyle Owens)]

Most of the people leaving, according to this report, are moving to states like Pennsylvania, Virginia, Florida or North Carolina.

[Rob Carson]

Is not a lot better, but it's better.

[News Reporter (Kyle Owens)]

Lina in search of a cheaper, less regulated housing market. But what's more concerning for Chambers is that the demographic has shifted. A higher number of young people are leaving the state.

[Zoran Mandami]

When young, able bodied worker age individuals leave our state, we lose workforce via ability. We're losing talent.

[News Reporter (Kyle Owens)]

Delegate Wayne Hartman says overbearing regulations are to blame.

[Rob Carson]

We've passed so much overburdensome regulation that drove up the cost of housing through code and energy code and things of that nature that just doesn't have 40% of Maryland's energy is imported. Return on the investment.

[News Reporter (Kyle Owens)]

And at the end of the day, it's people across the state and here on the Eastern Shore that are being hurt.

[Rob Carson]

You're going to have fewer people here to pay the taxes. We have fewer people here in the job market and it's going to keep putting a larger and larger burden on those who are left. Just like California and New York, a.

[News Reporter (Kyle Owens)]

Lack of housing options and affordable ones at that has people in Maryland flocking to different states. Both Hartman and Chambers say Maryland should look at Pennsylvania, Virginia and North Carolina and see what leaders there are doing to attract people in.

[Rob Carson]

But they won't because there's the Maryland General Asylum. That's what we call the General assembly in Maryland. They're so out of their freaking nuts. They're a bunch of academic Marxists and they propose nonsense. I'm so glad I got my kids out of Maryland Montgomery county during the pandemic because they kept those kids locked down longer than usual. They forced this LGBTQ RSTUV nonsense down their throats to the point that Muslim families had the Sue Montgomery county so their kids could opt out of this nonsense. This is why people don't want to live in Maryland. Maryland is a beautiful state, but Democrats have made it suck. That's why I didn't live in Maryland again and I didn't want to live there when I lived there after I discovered a few years in holy crap, how much money I would have if I didn't live in Maryland. So I'm hoping that this is going to turn around again. There are three races to watch. And like I said, John Reed is now neck and neck with Gazella Hajme and Jason Biaris is way out in front of this J. Jones AG guy and neck and neck with Winsome Sears and Abigail Spamberger. So we'll see what happens. I have a good feeling. I have a good feeling and I think the momentum is going in the right direction. The one and only, the awesome, the incredible, the the fantastic. KT McFarland joins us next with her ruminations on, you know, what's going on in Gaza and what's going on with with Russia and Ukraine. And there's maybe some delightful recipes. We'll exchange some recipes because I like to cook and everything. Probably wait on the recipes. But anyway, KT McFarlane joins us next. Don't go anywhere. Hey guys, it's Carson, not proud member of the 4:00am Club. You know what that is? Well, that's the time that I usually wake up every night and can't get back to sleep. Then I found Beam's Dream Powder. Now beams. Dream Powder is made with a powerful blend of all natural ingredients including reishi, magnesium, L theanine, apigenin and melatonin. It's designed to help you fall asleep, stay asleep and wake up feeling amazing. And unlike other sleep aids, there's no next day grogginess, just great restful sleep. Plus, dream tastes incredible. And it's become a part of my nightly routine. Simple, easy, effective dream is made right here in America supporting jobs, quality and the principles we stand for in America. Thank you very much. Beam is going to give my listeners the ultimate patriot Discount up to 40%. Try their best selling Dream Powder. Get up to 40% off for a limited time. So with my discount code Newsmax, you can get their best selling dream powder for just $39. Go to shopbeam.com newsmax that's shop beam.com newsmax Again, use the code newsmax at checkout. That's beam.com newsma and use code word newsmax for up to 40% off. It is the Rob Carson show on a Thursday 23rd October and essential workers left unpaid after the Senate Democrats killed a bill to pay some government employees to work because they want to spread the suffering. Isn't that what socialism is all about? It's about making sure everyone is uniformly miserable. That's just the way things work. One of my favorite guests, one of my favorite people is KT McFarlane. I think she knows that and she joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Kt, how are you today?

[KT McFarland]

It's great to be with you. Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

Absolutely. A lot of things going on around the world. The latest headline that I just saw, Donald Trump has threatened to cut Israel adrift if they annex the west bank in extraordinary escalation as the president demands peace in the Middle East. I kind of want Israel to go in and wipe out Hamas and I was kind of hoping they would mess around and find out. What are your thoughts on that? Is Donald Trump spot on with this, with wanting peace, or do you blame Israel for wanting to go get rid of them?

[KT McFarland]

You know, it's a very complicated negotiation that he's managed to pull together and it's fragile. I think it'll work in the end. But everybody sort of has to keep being tapped into place, right? Hamas. Hamas doesn't want to lay down its arms. Hamas doesn't want amnesty. It's going to keep, it's going to fight, fight, fight. So as you just said, maybe Israel goes in and finishes the 20,000 remaining Hamas fighters. At this point, Hamas is isolated. Their international support has evaporated. Their money support from Iran, that's gone because Iran doesn't have any money. And they've also been separated from the Palestinian people because the day after Hamas is gone, there's a massive rebuilding program in Gaza which is going to be jobs, prosperity for the Palestinian people. So nobody wants Hamas there?

[Rob Carson]

No.

[KT McFarland]

How do you get rid of them? And that's the question that President Trump has sent. Marco Rubio is there now. The vice president was there. And then at the same time, you've got Hamas not wanting to fulfill its part of the deal. You've got some right wing Israelis who say, wow, this is a great opportunity, let's just annex the Palestinian territories again. That's not part of the deal either. But they're just doing it because, well, I think because they want to cause trouble. That again, that's why the vice president was there. That's why Secretary Rubio is there. That's why all of the senior officials who've been going back and forth to Israel, we're calling it now it's not babysitting, it's BB sitting babysits to make sure that his flank doesn't sort of sabotage the deal. It'll get there, but it's going to be a lot of this and that and back and forth.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, you know, the. With it. With. And I thought it was brilliant, by the way. I was, and I'm not, certainly not an expert on foreign policy, but I thought it was brilliant. All the chess pieces that Donald Trump was moving around, the reason why he bombed the Iran nuclear facilities and how it really just destroyed Iran's pipeline for money to Hamas. So Hamas is on an island. Hamas has limited ammunition. Hamas has limited means financially. So do they become a ragtag group of guerrilla fighters interrupting construction? I mean, what's going to happen to them? Is there a way to get them out of there? I don't think you're going to be able to convert them ideologically. They're going to be a thorn in the side. Something's going to have to happen.

[KT McFarland]

Well, nobody's going to convert them ideologically.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[KT McFarland]

They're seeped in their hatred of Jews in Israel. So I don't think they're redeemable. The question is, can they be managed? Will they put down their arms in favor of amnesty and, you know, slink off to their Swiss bank account somewhere, or do they want to be martyrs? And President Trump made it pretty clear, you know, if they don't want to do that, if they don't want to abide by the terms of the agreement, if they don't want to make peace and prosperity for their fellow Palestinians, they'll be obliterated. And that's probably what happens next.

[Rob Carson]

Messed around and find out, you know, a lot of things happening in, in South America and Central America, there is freedom that is shredding. There are people who are trying to fight this movement. I saw in Bolivia, Rodrigo Paz winning, and he seems to be Trumpian, and that's kind of good. You've got the possibility of Venezuela falling. Donald Trump is putting the heavy on them big time. What do you think is going to happen with Venezuela and what do you think the timeline is? Because I think, I think obviously Maduro's toast. But what do you think the timeline on that is?

[KT McFarland]

You know, here's the problem with South America, Latin America, South America, Central America is that we've ignored it. Republicans and Democrats have just sort of taken it for granted. And while we've ignored it, we've looked at the Middle east. We've been concerned about this Part of that part, but never our backyard. And as a result, the Chinese have made enormous inroads into South America. They want the, they want the natural resources. So the problem that the whole continent faces is communism, the cartels and China. And what President Trump is doing is he's trying to shore up the reformers, the ones who want democracy, the ones who want free market systems. And that's like Argentina. And as you point out, the election's just this week in Bolivia. And he's trying to tamp down the bad guys. And that's Colombia. Yes, Venezuela.

[Rob Carson]

Colombia is going to mess around and find out, I think Colombia, you know, this guy's talking about taking out Donald Trump. I don't think you want to, I don't think you want to mess around with Donald Trump. What do you think about Brazil? Donald Trump I don't think has done a very good job supporting the, the, the, the ruler of Brazil that was, was ousted with a, with a fake election. Bolsonaro, what do you think? I really thought Trump would support him more.

[KT McFarland]

You know, here's the problem. Do you interfere in the internal relations for another country? Bolsonaro is a very good guy. His son is a good guy. He was absolutely, you know, taken over by his opposition, you know, show trial, threw him in jail. And what's President Trump or anybody supposed to do? Well, we're not, we don't, we're not in the business of changing regimes. President Trump has said, and he's right, that these forever war is where we just blow in with the Marines and try to make them into Western style democracy. It just doesn't work. What we'll use is the economic weapon.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[KT McFarland]

And that's what he's using with the countries I just mentioned. So I think that what you'll see is President Trump may want regime change. He may want regime change like mad in Venezuela, but that doesn't mean send in the Marines. That means use other pressures that we have. Economic pressures, diplomatic pressures, share intelligence with the opposition. But I'm very, very happy that we now finally have a president who realizes, yikes, we got to take care of the backyard.

[Rob Carson]

I love it. I love it. Then what do you think about the blowing up the drug boats? I guess I have a real problem. Of course. I swear to God, I gotta tell you, I am so. It's not a surprise from Rand Paul, but this is a whole different ballgame. This is a war that has been. They have declared war on us. We have casualties. Okay. They have invaded us. I have no pity for these people.

[KT McFarland]

The cartels are they're being used. They're obviously doing their own thing, right. They're just human trafficking, drug smuggling, weapons smuggling. But they're also working with the leaders of some of these countries, like Maduro. So what are we doing about it? Well, I think sealing the border was a good first step, making sure that we shut down a lot of the money, transit, you know, the banking system that they have access to. And then I think blowing a couple of ships that are carrying fentanyl and drugs into the United States, more power to them.

[Rob Carson]

Well, it certainly would give you a second thought as you're loading those, you know, those bags of coke or whatever onto your little skiff as you go head out into the open ocean. I'd be thinking twice about that. KT McFarland, can you hold on for the next break? I'd like to get your thoughts on the New York mayoral race, among other things. Would you mind?

[KT McFarland]

No, I'd be happy to. Thank.

[Rob Carson]

Lovely. Lovely. More with KT McFarland on the rob Carson Show. Don't go anywhere. It is. ROB Carson Show. So the left is going to follow something up on the the heels of the no Kings temper tantrum. They're going to do a mass blackout November 25 through the December 2. No work, which should be easy for most of them. No spending, no projects, no events, no restaurants, no backing out. Prepare for the Honestly, I am so done with these idiots. As the as the left is the class of 1968 and the Democrat party spiral into the pits of hell. Katie McFarland, what do you think of the no Kings protest last weekend?

[KT McFarland]

I think the best part of the no King's protest was the meme that President Trump did.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[KT McFarland]

I'll let you describe it since it's probably I don't really want to talk about it myself. He put a crown on his head, he got into an airplane and then what happened?

[Rob Carson]

He dropped an ICBM is what I thought. It was so perfect. And they're all offended. They're all offended. Oh, the, the people who are so profane, who are so filth rotten in their language are upset that he would use poo humor to carpet bomb. It's so stupid. They really are. They are like petulant children, aren't they? Throwing a temper tantrum because they lost. And KT I know in my heart that this is the last dying throes of the class of 1968. They're done, KT. They're not going to get the midterms because they're offering nothing.

[KT McFarland]

They're offering nothing. And they're linear and linear by the day. No sense of humor. The great thing about what I love about President Trump is he just knows how to stir the pot. He knows how to get their goat. And, you know, you have to chuckle and who are these people? What do they have to offer? Communists running for mayor.

[Rob Carson]

New York City's likely to win, I swear to God. By the way, I've said that conservative comedy is on the ascension because the left can't be taken seriously anymore. And I've been writing political satire for, you know, for Rush LIMBAUGH Starting in 1990, and I still do it, obviously on my show. And it is, you cannot take these people seriously. But, but it is a serious threat in New York City. I said before, when he won that, that, that primary, I said, I don't think that he can win. And everybody's saying he can. He's going to, he's going to. He's going to. It's a fait accompli. I saw the debate last night, a good share of it. I'm still not convinced he can win. I think we can, I think it's, I don't think it's too late. What do you think?

[KT McFarland]

Well, I think it's going to be a nail biter.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[KT McFarland]

Because right now he was ahead in the polls. People are now starting to take a look at him. Oh my gosh, he wants to free food for everybody. Everything for everybody. No police. It's just, it's totally unrealistic. It's like, who's gonna vote for this? Maybe, you know, seven year old kids. You think? Yay.

[Rob Carson]

Well, yeah, they, they, this is why they keep them ignorant in, in universities because they, they forget that socialism caused hundreds of millions of deaths last, last century. And they, they'll just do a steak. You know, they always say, oh, Communism wasn't done. Right. It's actually perfect. But we haven't. Well, usually you don't try to put a fresh coat of paint on the, you know, on, on genocide. It's so utterly, utterly ridiculous.

[KT McFarland]

Yeah, but here's the thing. If the communist wins and New York will go bad really fast, New York will go bankrupt. New York will be like it was in the 19, early 1970s. Nothing worked. The garbage won't get collected. The police won't be, the rents are going to crater, real estate values are going to, you know, just drop out at the bottom. And then what happens is New York City, we'll turn to the federal Government. We'll turn to Donald Trump and say, would you bail us out?

[Rob Carson]

Nope.

[KT McFarland]

He's made it pretty clear.

[Rob Carson]

You know, the latest idiotic move by the left is Donald Trump, known as one of the great real estate developers of the entire world, who's made, redesigned the skyline in New York, built golden palaces around the world, golf courses. He's going to build a ballroom, and they're upset about it. Normally he would bid out the contract, you know, they would hire him, but he actually lives in the White House, and they're mad about it. I swear to God, Katie, this is just the dumbest of the dumb. You just. When you think they couldn't get dumber.

[KT McFarland]

You know, they just have no real issue. So what are they talking about? The no king thing? They're mad about the new ballroom, redecorating the White House. They're just, you know, we have peace in the Middle East. Oh, well, I guess Hamas needs. Has rights. You know, it's just there's nothing left. The faster they get the linear they get, the quicker people wake up and say, hey, wait a minute, I didn't.

[Rob Carson]

Well, they die like movie vampires, grabbing, clawing, trying to drag us into hell with them. It's not going to work, by the way. Hey, I want to ask you a question because I was talking to somebody the other day and they said they love it when you're on Gutfeld show, because, you know, Gutfeld is, you know, you got these, you know, fairly unfiltered individuals. You know, I like to say he's kind of like Fantastic Four. You've got the stranger smart guy over here, and you've got the minks and you've got the brute over here. When you do that show and you, you show up with that, that unruly group of comics and weirdos. How does that, how does it feel with on. On the vibe? I've seen it live, by the way, when you show up on that show, how do you prepare yourself for going on that show?

[KT McFarland]

Oh, you don't really prepare yourself. I mean, I'll tell you what the topics are going to be, but everybody's, you know, everybody's ad living. There's no, there's no script you're reading. I love it.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God.

[KT McFarland]

Because again, Greg Gutfeld and the people on his show, they love to poke fun at crazy left wing nuts. And so what a great laugh it is. So I have a terrific time. Plus, they treat me extremely well. There's a point, which sometimes Greg will turn to me with some, you know, pooh humor, whatever it is. And I'll just say to him, greg, you really don't expect me to answer that question, do you?

[Rob Carson]

This is exactly what somebody, somebody told me, that when you kind of roll your eyes, it's really funny. Like I said, I think it's so wonderful because I wrote for Rush for so many years and he liked to say he used absurdity to exemplify the absurd. And honestly, the left cannot fight back when you are mocking, ridiculing, and using factual humor against them. They can't. They're like an armadillo in the highway, upside down.

[KT McFarland]

And it's just funny, by the way. No, they just like, oh, you're a Nazi. Or you're, you know, they just sort of melt. It's like the witch in the wizard of Oz, right?

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, that was Nancy Pelosi. The other day on the steps of the Capitol, somebody threw some water on her. It was unbelievable. I'm really looking forward to the holiday season. Kt. I know last year you, you read the Night was the Night Before Christmas. They're talking about redoing a reboot of A Christmas Carol. I could see you as Mrs. Cratchit.

[KT McFarland]

Good.

[Rob Carson]

I could. I never get tired of that story.

[KT McFarland]

That's the best story ever.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, my God. My favorite version is the George C. Scott 1984 made for television.

[KT McFarland]

I have to agree. I think that's really terrific.

[Rob Carson]

I'm ready for Thanksgiving.

[KT McFarland]

Favorite is Grinch. Let me know if you're going to read the Grinch.

[Rob Carson]

That'll be. You know what? I asked Sebastian Gorka if he would do it.

[KT McFarland]

Oh, yeah, I did.

[Rob Carson]

And he's not talking to me anymore.

[KT McFarland]

He's a serious fellow in the party wanted.

[Rob Carson]

He is. He is a serious fellow. KT McFarlane, always great to have you on. God bless you and yours and, and thank you for being on the show today.

[KT McFarland]

It's an honor and a pleasure. It always is a pleasure. Thank you.

[Rob Carson]

All right. We'll think about something for Christmas. I'm working on something. Okay.

[KT McFarland]

Okay.

[Rob Carson]

All right. We got to have something for your grandkids to listen to for the next year. Let's, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. So I haven't talked a lot about this. Today, breaking news. NBA stars, coaches among 31 arrested in FBI sports banning crackdown. The fraud is mind boggling. Stephen A. Smith is blaming Donald Trump. Stephen A. Smith, stay in your lane and talk stats and talk sports. Honestly, you reveal your ignorance every time Honestly, Hannity always has Stephen A. Smith. We're best buddies, you know. Honestly, Stephen, just talk about sports. Talk about sports because you always look like a fool when you talk about politics. But you could be president. Oh, no, you can't. FBI Director Cash Patel announced Thursday. 31 people, including several current and former NBA figures arrested as part of a sweeping federal investigation into organized gambling. Portland Trail Gate brazen Trailblazers head coach and hall of Famer Chauncey Billups, Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier and former NBA player and assistant coach Damon Jones. Check this out. The this. This guy Rosier, I believe faked an injury faked an injury in a Charlotte I believe so I could be Drawshier came in from the New York Police commissioner Jennifer Tish, who said he allegedly faked an injury March 23, 2023, when he played for the Charlotte Hornets. That allowed the in the no associates to receive more than $200,000 in wages on his under statistics. This is filthy, man. This is filthy, rotten stuff. Pete Rose is like, what the hell? What did I do? I wasn't even betting on my team. You know, I worry about this. I've been approached by these online sports gambling sites to do endorsements. No interest at all. A, I don't know anything about it. B, I just think it's trouble with a capital T when you get this involved and make it so easy for you to gamble. I'm sorry, it is an addiction. Gambling is an addiction like booze, and you can get yourself in a lot of trouble over it. I just think it's seedy and sordid and weird and awful and so I don't mess with it. I don't mess with. If you want to go to a casino, I got no problem when you go to a casino. But they make it so bloody easy for y'. All. Just download the whatever app and lose your ass and lose your marriage. Yeah, it's really cool. But it's sports. It's sports. Yeah, sports. Yeah, sports. Got no problem. I also don't do fantasy football unless it's like, you know, Beyonce playing quarterback and what's her name, the one who did the jeans commercials a while back, her playing the tight end, you know, Sweeney. Yeah, yeah. Sydney Sweeney. She can be my tight end any day. That would be my fantasy football right there. Completely different game. Completely. Wow. Did I let you get into my emotional house of cards there for a second? Sorry. It's kind of scared the kids a little bit. They've had some fun. Did you have some fun? Wasn't that fun to hear. To KT McFarlane. I'm going to have her on we're going to do another thing with Christmas this year. She read Nightmare Night Before Christmas. She told me in New York that she plays it for her grandkids. They want to hear it all the time. Her voice Grandma reading the and so we got to do something with that. And it was true. About I asked I did ask Sebastian Gorka to be to read the Grinch that Stole Christmas. And he he's not talking to me much anymore. He's very serious individual. I love him, by the way. I love him and he's great. He's probably just busy. That's why he won't return my phone calls and texts. That's gonna do it for the show. Check out the podcast. Go to your usual podcast platform. Subscribe Follow me on social media Obcarson show God bless you, America's founder Donald Trump, as he deals with all this nonsense and changes the country for the veteran. Until tomorrow, which is Friday, by the grace of God. Don't catch the stupid I'll see you then.