Votes, Borders, and the Left’s Reality Problem

Summary

The Rob Carson Show – "Votes, Borders, and the Left’s Reality Problem"

Date: March 24, 2026
Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax)
Notable Guests: Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer, Chip Roy, assorted political commentators

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Episode Overview

This episode blends Rob Carson's signature blend of humor, satire, and hard-hitting political commentary, focusing on two major themes:

• The ongoing debate over voter ID laws and alleged Democratic strategies surrounding undocumented immigrants and voting rights.
• U.S. foreign policy developments, with a spotlight on Iran (including the potential for regime change), Cuba, and Venezuela, featuring a detailed discussion with Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer about military and geopolitical strategies.

Throughout the episode, Carson critiques the Democratic Party’s stance on immigration enforcement, voter identification, and border security, arguing that progressive resistance to voter ID is a deliberate ploy to enable non-citizen voting. He intersperses pointed satire and cultural references, amplifying his criticisms of left-leaning media and politicians. Later, the show pivots to a nuanced, inside-baseball look at geopolitics in the Middle East and Latin America.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. ICE, Border Security, and Media Narratives

• Carson lampoons media hysteria around ICE deployments in airports, using satirical hyperbole.
• He notes the left’s historic calls to abolish ICE during a period of increased border crossings.
• Carson and guests argue that this demonization of ICE is orchestrated to hinder immigration enforcement.

Memorable Quotes:

• Rob Carson: "Did they mop up all the blood before the media got there? And did they get rid of the bodies like the Ayatollah did...?" ([03:00])
• "Why the hell would they want to abolish ICE in the middle of a four-year wholesale opening of the southern border to 20 million illegals...?" ([03:18])

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2. Voter ID, the SAVE Act, and Voting Rights

• The show zeroes in on H.R. 8281, "The SAVE America Act," requiring proof of citizenship to vote.
• Carson ridicules arguments that voter ID laws disenfranchise minorities or women, claiming these are patronizing and unfounded.
• Multiple clips highlight left-leaning commentators and politicians objecting to the bill, with Carson sarcastically mocking their logic.
• Points raised:
  • Claims that requiring documentation will "shrink the voting rolls by 10%" are, in Carson’s view, admissions that non-citizens are voting.
  • Anecdotes about not being able to find a birth certificate are dismissed as unserious and elitist.
  • Carson argues that proof of identity is necessary for all manner of daily tasks and thus should not be controversial for voting.

Notable Quotes:

• "The only way to prove your citizenship is through documentation and identification. And it’s kind of crazy because the Democrat party does not want that." ([05:06])
• "Their [Democrats'] argument: women and minorities are too helpless to get IDs. That's insulting, that's racist." ([05:50])
• "Could you find your birth certificate? No, I couldn’t." – Mocking MSNBC panel ([09:24])
• "It’s to bag an election... to cheat and steal the election in a different way than he [Trump] did in 20 and 2021." ([09:47])

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3. Democrats and "Undocumented Americans"

• A repeated point: Democrats “care more” about undocumented immigrants than citizens, as evidenced by policy priorities.
• Carson asserts that the increasing importance of the "undocumented vote" is sidelining traditional Democratic constituencies.
• He quotes political analysts who refer to "undocumented Americans," pointing to a perceived shift in party priorities.

Quote:

• Political Analyst: "It has failed to deliver for the people we care about most, the undocumented Americans that are in this country." ([10:55])
• Carson: "They need illegals to win... with just you versus Republicans, it's an even race. But the ones who will win the elections are the illegals. You don’t mean anything." ([11:06])

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4. The SAVE Act and GOP Legislative Strategy

• Discussion about the machinations in the Senate, with Trump demanding no Easter recess until a vote is held.
• Carson and guest Mike Davis argue the act is overwhelmingly supported by the public and even by many minorities and Democrats, painting the political class as out-of-touch "ruling elites."

Notable Segment:

• "We live in a representative republic. Right now, 85% of us want you to be able to prove your citizenship to vote. 97% of the Republican Senate are down with that. None of the Democrats are." ([15:51])
• "If we can't get this done, then... we’re gonna have to have a couple million people show up in Washington, D.C. and shut the city down or something." ([16:03])

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5. Border Security and "Governmental Dysfunction"

• Chip Roy joins to differentiate GOP and Democratic priorities: Republicans want borders secured and ballots protected; Democrats, he says, want chaos and lines at airports, and prioritize non-citizens.
• Additional commentary on spikes in urban crime and declining public safety, tied to immigration policy.

Quotes:

• Chip Roy: "Democrats would rather Americans have to sit in lines in airports for four and a half hours, six hours, miss flights… In real time making Americans’ lives miserable so they can try to score political points." ([19:19])
• Carson: "There is no reason why this save act should not pass overwhelmingly. The people who are preventing it are borderline criminal, if not actual criminals." ([20:28])

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6. Middle East Geopolitics: Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba

A. Iran

• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer joins for a deep dive into events in Iran: a regime in turmoil, inner conflict, and opportunities for dramatic U.S. influence.
  • Discussion of potential military scenarios, including seizing key terrain like Kharg Island if required.
  • Critique of U.S. intelligence and praise for effectiveness of current military operations.
  • Notes on the importance of dialogue with non-military factions within Iran.

Quotes:

• Schaefer: "The Iranian government has to provide at least the facade of still being in control and winning the war to its people. That’s what you’re seeing." ([23:42])
• Carson (on military options): "If you soften them up… with overwhelming air power, would you drop troops near the oil refineries, assume control, and fend off whatever’s left?" ([26:48])
• Schaefer: "We have the technology, weapons systems, and political will to do it. I don’t think they can stop us... I see this as more of a Grenada type operation." ([27:36])

B. Venezuela and Cuba

• Discussing the potential for new pro-U.S. governments in Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba, and the geopolitical implications.
• Skepticism about leftist “saviors” visiting Cuba while the population lives in deprivation.

Quotes:

• Political Analyst: "We could see new governments in Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba… biggest geopolitical shift since the fall of the Berlin Wall." ([21:57])
• Schaefer: "The average income of a Cuban is $156 a year. Liberal visitors act like white saviors then go back to their five-star hotel." ([35:23])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Satirical Jabs at Left-Wing Media: Carson frequently mocks MSNBC hosts (notably Mika and Joe Scarborough) for supposedly being unable to handle basic tasks like finding their own birth certificates ([06:56]–[09:24]).
• Carson’s Take on Patriotism & "Overwhelming the Left": “The way we’re going to win is overwhelm the left with joy and patriotism. I’ll handle the mockery, ridicule, and satire. Let Trump handle the butt-kicking.” ([20:04])
• Military Hardline: Carson and Schaefer agree on no half-measures with Iran, favoring overwhelming force, then negotiation: “Kill as many as you need to to make a point. But at some point we’re going to have to stop the war.” ([33:19])
• Democratic "Grift" & Representational Breakdown: “The ruling class loot the treasury, enrich themselves … by allowing the people to have free and fair elections, it takes away their grift.” ([17:03])

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment Description | | ----------- | ---------------------------------------------------------------- | | 01:21 | Start of episode; Carson introduces themes | | 02:16–04:12 | Media and Dem anti-ICE rhetoric, satirical “airport bloodbath” | | 05:06–09:24 | Riff on voter ID, "helpless women & minorities" argument parody | | 09:24–12:24 | Democratic strategy: "bag an election," "steal the election" | | 13:05–17:03 | SAVE Act: public opinion, Republican strategy | | 18:58–20:28 | Chip Roy: Republican vs Democrat priorities on border/security | | 21:57–23:42 | Geopolitical shifts: Iran, Venezuela, Cuba | | 23:11–36:32 | Interview with Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer: Iran, tactics, Cuba | | 36:32–40:00 | Personal reflections, DC trip, Cuban music & culture |

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Tone & Style

• Language: Direct, irreverent, often provocative; heavy with sarcasm and rhetorical questions.
• Satirical & Pop Culture References: Carson frequently invokes hyperbole, parody, and pop culture (music, radio tropes, references to movies and personalities).
• Call to Action: Encourages listeners to “overwhelm the left,” travel to DC, and stay vigilant.

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For New Listeners

This episode is an archetype of Rob Carson’s approach: blending right-leaning political analysis, culture war commentary, and comedic ridicule targeted at mainstream media, Democratic politicians, and progressive orthodoxy. The second half offers substantive military/foreign policy insight with Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer, giving historical perspective on current events in the Middle East and Latin America.

You’ll get not only Carson’s interpretation of why voter ID laws matter, but also an impassioned argument for reclaiming American patriotism and skepticism toward political elites, all delivered in his characteristic, unfiltered style.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

Hold it. Now.

[Rob Carson Show Announcer]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

This is hour number two of the Rob Carson Show. Welcome to it. Please come on in. Have a seat. We've got much, much, much to as the show progresses. Lots of audio, lots of thoughts, maybe some comedy too, from the great Jim Gossett as well. How's that sound? I think it sounds kind of good. It sounds kind of good. So the bloodbath continues in America's airport. Some of you know about this. ICE agents were sent and the Democrats were absolutely right.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

The last thing that the American people

[Rob Carson]

need are for untrained ICE agents to

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

be deployed at airports all across the country, potentially to brutalize or in some instances, kill them.

[Political Commentator]

This is Donald Trump yet again falling back to what is his only play, which is to double down, to dig in, to send more ICE officers out into our airports now to terrorize our passengers waiting in line for hours.

[Rob Carson]

Let's go to the the war zone and hear the damage right now.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

As long as they don't bother anybody, I'm okay. I was concerned about people. So they're not bothering us.

[Rob Carson]

Let's get it done. I like that they're here. I think that it's allowing us to move and get to where we need to. It's kind of scary in a sense

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

because you don't know what to expect

[Rob Carson]

with ice, as long as they can help us move a little bit faster, maybe they can take some of the work off the TSA agents. As far as, you know, general security, I'm all for it. Wow, that's just terrible. I mean, what do they. Did they mop up all the blood before the media got there? And did they get rid of the bodies like the Ayatollah did with all those, those protesters in Iran? I mean, honestly, seriously think about this. This is Kamala Harris a couple years ago. It's like they were almost trying to, I don't know, Dem. The agency that removes illegals from the country that they let in wholesale for four years.

[Political Commentator]

My values have not changed.

A hashtag Abolish ice, referring to the enforcement agency when it comes to immigration. Listen to what.

[Rob Carson]

Why the hell would they want to abolish ICE in the middle of a four year wholesale opening of the southern border to 20 million illegals that they put up in really nice hotels and gave them massive, massive benefits and Social Security numbers and the possibility they could vote. Oh, okay.

[Political Commentator]

Your colleague, Senator Kamala Harris said about the idea of abolishing ice, here's what she told my colleague Casey Hunt.

Examine ICE and its role and the

[Rob Carson]

way that she was a border czar or something.

[Chip Roy]

Right.

[Political Commentator]

That is being administered and the work it is doing. And we need to probably think about starting from scratch. Abolish ice. This is a refrain that we've heard.

[Rob Carson]

What was ICE doing down there? They weren't doing anything right there. They weren't in Minneapolis or anything.

[Political Commentator]

Increasingly from your Democratic colleagues, some even.

[Rob Carson]

There were no insane leftists attacking them and then getting shot to death.

[Political Commentator]

Potential 2020 contenders like Bernie Sanders, Senator Kamal Harris, Senator Elizabeth Warren.

[Rob Carson]

It's like they were almost trying to, I don't know, demonize the agency so it couldn't do what it was supposed to do. It's kind of weird how that happens, right? And it went on and on and on. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing. No due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism. You're being hyperbolic. We're being hyperbolic.

[Chip Roy]

If you're a black and brown community, it's here.

[Political Commentator]

When I see ice, I see that's

[Rob Carson]

been going on for years. This is not a big. This is not Minnesota. This is the friggin Democrat party setting you up, making you believe that ice, like the police were racist, they were whatever. So they could take them down from doing what they do their jobs. That's it, that's all. Duh, duh. And then of course now you know, they don't want people to have to show an ID to prove that they're a citizen, to enjoy the rights of citizenship. And if you're going to be a citizen, you have the right to vote. If you're not a citizen, you don't have the right to vote. And the only way to prove your citizenship is through documentation and identification. And it's kind of crazy because the Democrat party does not want that. In fact, here's Cory Booker again, freak show supreme. He says this is the fear mongering, you know, because women can't get IDs. Women cannot get IDs because they might get married, have their name changed, which proves they cannot survive without a man in their life. I didn't say it, your Democrat party did. By the way, your Democrat party is so sexist. They said that you as a woman are so helpless without a man in your life that you can't get an idiot. And then they also said black people, you guys are so. You don't even know what a computer is. You did. What the hell? How are you going to get an iv? I'm so pathetic. But here is Cory Booker admitting, admitting that requiring an IV would shrink the voter rolls by 10%, which would be about all the illegals.

[Political Commentator]

Trump's usually usual bluster. He has again made this grand statement. I'm not going to sign any bill that comes to me unless the SAVE act comes to me first. The SAVE act is a massive voter suppression bill.

[Rob Carson]

No, it's not.

[Political Commentator]

It would make it very difficult for millions of Americans, especially illegals, women who

[Rob Carson]

have changed, women who cannot survive without

[Political Commentator]

a manual change their name. Their name on their birth certificate no longer matches the name on their real ID or driver's eyes. It would cause chaos to voting and really shrink.

[Rob Carson]

People die and ice ages will murder you.

[Political Commentator]

The voting rolls 5 or 10% given the effect it would have.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course it will because it'll get all those illegals off of there. It would absolutely get all those illeg who may have a driver's license Social Security card because Joe Biden gave 11 million of them Social Security cards. Here is. Oh listen, this is Joe Scarborough saying that his wife is so helpless and pathetic. Mika, Mika, by the way. That she couldn't get, she couldn't vote because she doesn't know where her driver's license is. Not only does Mika not know where her original birth is, which under the SAVE act would get her kicked off the voters rolls and then she'd have to come back and re register and she would find out, thank God you got that man in your life, Mika, because honest, honestly, without that man in your life, that Joe, you'd, honestly, you would be just lost actually you would not have a job because I mean, you're a terrible host and he just kind of carries you. That said, here's the entire panel at msnbc. The Democrat party has made them seem so bloody stupid that all of a sudden this, this panel of well educated adults on, on a television show that's seen by hundreds of people, Morning Joe, they have decided to say that even they wouldn't be able to vote if they were required to show, you know, proof of citizenship in the form of a birth certificate. Now, I don't know about you, but when I was a kid, my mother had my birth certificate. She saved my birth certificate. It was in a folder where the birth certificate. I know where my birth certificate is. I know where my. Well, it's in her, it's in the house with her now in Kansas City. I know where my kids birth certificates are. We held onto our birth certificates because it's kind of important to get a birth certificate. By the way, say for instance, if you want to go get a passport, birth certificate always helps. And you got to be able to prove your identification for all sorts of things like, I don't know, getting married, getting divorced, getting a passport, let's see, what else. Turning on your utilities, buying a house, getting a loan for anything. Getting a loan for anything. Opening a bank account, getting a fishing license, I don't know what else. I mean, dear God Nabbit. You have to be able to prove who you are. That is it. That is all. That is that. That's why whenever you, you know, when you want to get into whatever account they have to text you and you got to text back a code to prove your identity, that your name and your birth date and everything are in order. But this is the Democrat. These are the idiots on MSNBC saying that they're so stupid and inept that if it were required a birth certificate, they could not vote themselves. Let me ask you a question. Could you find your birth certificate? No, I couldn't.

[Caller or Guest]

Could you find your birth certificate and it's required.

[Rob Carson]

Then you wipe your own rear end.

[Caller or Guest]

This is you. Trump said it. He said this is the way the

[Rob Carson]

gargoyle with osteoporosis, Chuck Schumer, trying to convince these idiots that. Oh yeah, this is terrible. You can't find your birth certificate. You're gonna. You're not gonna be able to vote

[Caller or Guest]

when he knows he's getting killed.

[Rob Carson]

It's to bag an election.

[Caller or Guest]

It's to bag. It's to cheat and steal the election in a different way than he did in 20 and 2021. I'd like to ask you a larger question on this.

[Rob Carson]

Safe question. We gotta hear this.

[Caller or Guest]

You can't even use military id. And here's what happens. This. They.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

The.

[Caller or Guest]

The. Just a minute. I wrote an op ed.

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[Rob Carson]

One of your interns wrote the op ed. You are so just full of crap. Dear God, there is corn and peanuts floating in your eyeballs. Here is the. Let's see. Let's go to. Oh, Chris Murphy. This guy.

[Political Commentator]

The money.

[Rob Carson]

This is Chris Murphy. Before they changed the Ms. Now it was msnbc. And he actually admitted he cared more. Democrats care more for illegals. The negotiation didn't have a path to citizenship. It was entirely on their terms in order to get Ukraine funding.

[Political Analyst]

Right.

Well, I mean, Chris, that's been a failed play for 20 years. So you are right that that has been the democratic strategy for 30 years maybe. And it has failed to deliver for the people we care about most, the undocumented Americans that are in this country.

[Rob Carson]

Did you hear that? Did you hear what he just said there?

[Political Analyst]

And it has failed to deliver for the people we care about most, the undocumented Americans that are in this country.

[Rob Carson]

Do you know why? Do you know why? Because remember when I used to say that Democrats would promise people of color in America's inner cities the sun, the moon, and the stars, and then the election would happen and they'd get up and leave some money on the dresser and nothing would change. Now they're doing that with all of you Democrats. All of you Democrats, your Democrat party, you're whatever percent of the voting block you are, they just know you're gonna vote, no matter how absurd and extreme their idiotic policies are. Like boys changing into girls to compete in girl sports. They know that you'll just vote because you hate Donald Trump so much and you just want a D. You know, this is why you said, okay, we'll vote for Joe Biden without a primary. And, okay, we'll let Joe Biden get booted and Kamala Harris will become the candidate. Your Democrat party takes you for granted, but they need illegals to win. You know, you got an even, even race with just you versus Republicans. But the ones who will win the elections are the illegals. You don't mean anything. Let me prove it to you. Here's the President of the United States trying to get Democrats to stand and nobody did.

[Rob Carson Show Announcer]

If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.

[Rob Carson]

No, Democrat st. Democrats. Listen to me and I mean this. I want to compete in the arena of ideas. I want to have fair elections. But right now, you're being played. That's it. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Come on.

[Rob Carson Show Announcer]

Would I launch strikes in Mexico to stop drugs? It's okay with me.

[Rob Carson]

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, I think it's fantastic that the Trump administration was saying, yeah, it looks like Iran wants to come to the table and the foolish Iranian morons are saying, no, we will fight till the end. Well, the end is not very far away because you're getting your rear ends handed to you. And as far as I'm concerned, just unrelenting bombing, just until they're all dead. There you go, that's all. No negotiations. Why are we even negotiating? Make sure they're all dead. Keep going, keep going. The Iranian people are turning on the ircg. They're actually killing them. Or they're calling Israeli intelligence so they can, they can hit them with drones or whatever, kill every one of the bastards. There you go. That's it. No mercy, no pity. Enough with this. Enough with this foolhardy nonsense. We've been dealing with these idiots for years. Joe Biden and Barack Obama sent him pallets of cash for God's sake. We let them kill our Marines at their barracks. We've let them run roughshod around the world committing acts of terror everywhere. Wipe them off the face of the bloody friggin earth for good. That's it. There's no, there's no negotiating about this. They've got to all be killed. That's it. So the good people of Iran, of the Persians, the Kurds, all of the other groups, the Christians who are there, can step forward and bring peace to the Middle East. Enough is enough is enough. There's no more negotiating. That's me anyway. But I like to kind of play hardball because you know what? I'm just sick and damn tired of the nonsense from these, these jackweeds. Because they, they will never negotiate in good faith. Ever, ever, ever. They will never. When they are down to the last few, when they come to the table. They will sit there and go. We will germinate this seed of hatred and we will once again rise. That's it. They got to be killed. There you go. Here is Donald Trump yesterday in Memphis talking about no Easter recess until the SAVE act is passed. You know why? Because 85% of the country wants voter ID.

[Rob Carson Show Announcer]

So I'm tying Homeland Security into voter identification with picture and proof of citizen. Citizen.

[Rob Carson]

That's racist. In Texas in order to vote.

[Rob Carson Show Announcer]

And those two items are the most important thing having to do with Homeland Security. So it's part. It should be part of the Homeland Security bill. And I'm requesting that the Republican senators do that immediately. You don't have to take affairs. Vote, vote. Don't worry about Easter going home. In fact, make this one for Jesus.

[Rob Carson]

Okay.

[Rob Carson Show Announcer]

Make this one for Jesus. That's what I tell him.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rob Carson Show Announcer]

It'd be a damn good thing.

[Rob Carson]

Hell yeah, it would be a damn good thing. Mike Davis is awesome. He's with the Article 3 project. Here are his thoughts on the Save America Act.

[Political Commentator]

The Save America act is a crucial test of John Thune's effectiveness of his leadership. We have a.

[Rob Carson]

Here's the. Here's the simple truth here. We live in a representative Republic. Right now, 85% of us want you to be able to prove your citizenship to vote. 97% of the Republican Senate are down with that. None of the Democrats are. I think we started a war over taxation without representation, didn't we? Didn't we? If we can't get this done, then there's gonna be. Something's gonna happen at the ballot box. Some. We're gonna have to have a couple million people show up in Washington D.C. and shut the city down or something. There is no bloody reason why 85% of the population is demanding something. And the people, the power brokers in Washington D.C. and our. It can't be done baloney bill.

[Political Commentator]

The Save America act that has 80% support of Americans, including a super majority of Democrats.

[Rob Carson]

Gimme.

[Political Commentator]

And even a super majority of minorities. It's.

[Rob Carson]

It's because they are the ruling class. You are the plebes. The ruling class get the spoils. The ruling class loot the treasury, enrich themselves and their friends by allowing the people to have free and fair elections. It takes away their grift. Their grift, which has gotten so massive and overwhelming that, that it's, it's, it is putting us into debt. It's destroying our economy and we're sick and damn tired of it.

[Political Commentator]

It's because the bill is commonsensical.

[Caller or Guest]

It.

[Political Commentator]

It requires proof of citizenship and voter ID to vote in American elections. These Democrats have mass imported tens.

[Rob Carson]

You need proof of citizenship to travel abroad.

[Political Commentator]

Of illegal aliens into our country. They are lavishing them with welfare. Welfare fraud.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Political Commentator]

They are allowing these illegal aliens to get driver's licenses.

[Caller or Guest]

And in.

[Political Commentator]

In many of these states, when you get a driver's license, you can easily opt in to register.

[Rob Carson]

This is why all the Democrat states do not want to turn over their voter rolls and do not want to pur roles of illegals and dead people and others to vote.

[Political Commentator]

And then these Democrats are refusing to turn over their voter rolls to the Justice Department's Civil Rights division to make sure that illegal aliens are not voting.

[Rob Carson]

It's very transparent. It's obvious. Anyone with a half a brain should know this. Do you know why I know Democrats like stealing elections? Because I'm not stupid. You're not stupid either. And Democrats aren't stupid either. Here is Chip Roy talking about the distinction between Democrats and Republicans with regard to this SAVE act. And also the Democrats shutting down the government and making people suffer.

[Chip Roy]

What you have here is a very clear distinction between Republicans who are standing up for some pretty simple propositions. Right? That perhaps we should be removing the invaders, ending the sanctuary cities, doing the job of securing our country. And that we should ask integrity in our elections, that we should have voters imagine that. And ensure that only citizens vote, which

[Rob Carson]

is what the founders want.

[Chip Roy]

That's literally what we're standing up and saying. Democrats would rather Americans have to sit in lines in airports for four and a half hours, six hours, miss flights. I have a friend of mine texting me right now, stuck in Houston trying to figure out if he can rent a car to get home. Joe. Totally disrupting everybody's lives. And they're doing that in real time

[Rob Carson]

making because they don't care how much you suffer.

[Chip Roy]

Americans lives miserable so they can try.

[Rob Carson]

What are the Democrats saying lately? What are they, what are their platform to make your life better? There's nothing there to score political points. Nothing.

[Chip Roy]

What are those political points? Standing with the invaders.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Chip Roy]

Like the invader who killed a loyal student in Chicago. That J.D. pritzker can't even find it in his heart to say, wait a minute. Maybe things are bad here in Illinois.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Meanwhile in Memphis, carjacking's down 70%. Robberies down 60%. People in Memphis inner city neighborhoods are able to let their kids play out at night after dark, not have to worry about getting murdered and all that. I told you, the way we're going to win is we're going to overwhelm the left with joy and patriotism. I'll handle the mockery, ridicule and satire. Let Donald Trump handle the butt kicking. There is no reason why this save act should not pass overwhelmingly. The people who are preventing it are borderline criminal, if not actual criminals. Stick a breaker to come back on the way. Lieutenant colonel Tony Schaefer, Project Sentinel Talk about Iran. Don't go anywhere. Veterans and this fall you're invited to experience Washington, D.C. in a truly unforgettable way with me, Rob Carson and other Newsmax listeners. Imagine strolling through our nation's capital as America celebrates 250 years and seeing history come alive with an expert guide. Together, we'll tour the White House Visitor center, step into the halls of democracy with a guided tour of the U.S. capitol building, visit Arlington National Cemetery and the Changing of the Guard, stand in awe before the towering figure of President Abraham Lincoln, and take in the beauty of DC's legendary memorials with a special nighttime illumination tour. Our adventure includes premium hotel accommodations for four nights in the heart of D.C. in addition to six meals, ground transportation, guides and gratuities. Space is limited, so don't wait. Visit travelwithrob.net to book your DC getaway today or give our friends at Cruise and Tour a call at 800-383-3131. That's 800-383-3131 or travelwithrob.net.

[Political Analyst]

You know, we're at an interesting moment in time because there is a very real possibility in the next six months we could see new governments in Iran, Venezuela and Cuba. And if we end up with governments in those three countries that want to be friends with America rather than our enemies with America, that would be the biggest geopolitical shift since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Now, let me be clear. There are a thousand ways that can go wrong. I'm not being Pollyannish and saying, oh, everything's wonderful, but on any objective level, the regimes there are weaker than they have been in our lifetime.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

And we've got to take advantage of it. That said, I said that when Donald Trump was running, I said, he becomes the president of the United States. We're going to see freedom and patriotism sweep around the globe. And we've seen it in places like Poland. We've seen it in places like Hungary, we've seen it now Venezuela. We've seen it all over south and Central America. And right now, we are the only Holdouts really are the Western world. But I think some amazing things are going to happen. And to join us to talk about this and so much more is Tony Shaver, the president of Project Sentinel. Lieutenant Colonel, welcome to the show. How are you today?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Hey, Rob, I'm doing well beyond with you. Thanks for having me, bro.

[Rob Carson]

I've been dying to talk to you because we got a couple conflicting things. Iran foreign minister signaled readiness for deal. Signaled readiness for deal and call with the US Yesterday. Then today, Iranian spokesman for its top military command says armed forces will compete until complete victory. Really? How do you do a complete victory when you have been stomped into the dirt and 90% your Navy's underwater, your missiles are gone. How do you do that? What's going on here?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

So there are multiple elements of the Iranian government now in conflict. I think this has been acknowledged by Iran observers in Tehran saying the government's in shambles and they're internally fighting. So I'm not surprised. Remember, Rob, so much of what's going on is about internal consumption. The Iranian government has to provide at least the facade of still being in control and winning the war to its people. That's what, what, what you're seeing. But behind the scenes, I think there's a clear. There's clear evidence of President Trump having a dialogue with at least some members of the Iranian government. Remember, they are a tapestry of conflicting interests, even in Iran, the irgc, the military, the ones who actually are the military wing of the mullahs are not necessarily the ones who are completely in charge of the government because you have elements of their own legislature. I think that's who President Trump is dealing with, by the way, who are basically saying, look, enough's enough. We're ready to deal. And the ultimate end state here, Rob, for you and your audience to understand, is some version of the Venezuela outcome where we don't have to invade, we don't have to be in charge of the government. We just need a government that's willing to comply with the directives and policies we're asking it to comply with.

[Rob Carson]

So there's been some talk about Carg island. Right now, 90% of Iran's oil goes through there, 40% of its GDP. Essentially, the possibility of sending ground troops in there, I guess, is on the table. They obviously want to keep the infrastructure of Carg island there for whoever shows up, because they don't want the people to be destitute, you know, and the chaos to ensue. What are your thoughts on what's going to happen there? And how do we secure that?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, it's key terrain, Rob. There's two areas which I consider centers of gravity to the Iranian economy. First, as you know, you just mentioned Carg Island. One of the things we did, using the Venezuela format and model as our guide, we were able to essentially gain de facto control of the Venezuelan oil resources and start using that as we want to include depriving Cuba of oil, which is just say one of the things that's going on, and then obviously pulling the output for purposes of who we want to give it to, like China and other allies. Remember, 40% of the global oil travels that strait, so this is no small issue. And secondly, the strait itself, we may have to go about seizing some physical territory, terrain on the Iranian side of that strait. It could happen. And you know, we don't need land armies to do that. The Marine Corps is very well suited to conduct these type of seizure operations and holding it. So I think that what's being contemplated, I don't know if the decisions been made to do that or not.

[Rob Carson]

Well, this is a small piece of land. It says 7.7 square miles.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Right.

[Rob Carson]

But then again, other, other, other small pieces of land have been held onto. I'm thinking Iwo Jima, anybody, and we know how monstrous it was to try to, to do that. I'm not sure that the Iranian resistance is as strong as the Japanese in World War II, although they are as soon as suicidal. But, you know, I mean, 7.7 miles, you look at the massive power of the United States military, you don't think it would be. If you, if you soften them up so much with overwhelming air power, what would you do? Would you drop troops into the area near the oil refineries, assume control of those, and then just fend off any possible attacks from what remains of their, their military on the island?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

No, I would basically in this case be very direct. We have. Okay, I know this is going to be laughable to some people listening. We have a 10 legacy aircraft flying impunity around the Gulf. Yes, and F15 Eagles. I would essentially use those as preparatory advanced, you know, military to strike the targets. We believe there may be military residual military forces and then just move in. I'm not saying it's going to be easy. I'm not saying to be flippant. I'm just saying that. Rob, we have the technology, weapons systems and political will to do it. I don't think they can stop us. Will there be costs? Well, I don't think it's going to be level cost, which was significant against. Yeah, you know, I see this as more of a Grenada type operation, if you remember the urgent fury. So I guess that's the level of opera looking at.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, I would have to agree with you because I think right now they are overwhelmed. I think that they've lost their, I mean, look at the capacity of their, their military. It's toast. Their navy, their Navy is underwater. 90% of their missiles are gone. 90% of their air force is gone. You know, what are they going to fight with? Toast. Hand to hand. I mean, honestly. And we, we have, you know, our, our casualties have been very mild. We are still incredibly powerful. And we also have the Israelis helping. I have a feeling they, I have a feeling that, you know, their real possibility, they'd be throwing their hands up and saying, you know what? I think we're done.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, I think part of what we need to be looking at is the resumption of the Abraham Accords in the military, part of that which we proposed. But during the first Trump administration, the Gulf and Red Sea Treaty Organization, the NATO type organization, that would be part of the Abraham and allow for the Arab nations to be our partners, much like we did in the Iraq invasion.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

And so I'm personally surprised that we haven't seen more of an initiative publicly touted like this because, you know, clearly this is something I worked on during the first Trump administration is trying to pull together our Arab allies.

[Rob Carson]

Well, you think Saudi, because they attacked Saudi, for God's sake. And Saudi's got a gigantic air force thanks to us. Pony up, you know, pony. Tony Shaver, can you hold on through the break? I've got much more I want to cover on the other side of the break. All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. This Rob Carson show. More with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer in one moment. If in 2006 you had $20,000, you want to invest it in gold, you could have bought 33 ounces of gold at spot price. Now, the price of gold is down a little bit today, down to 43, 70. That given that your gold would still be worth today, that $20,000 would be $144,000 and change about $145,000. That's pretty remarkable. That's per annum, about 40%, I believe. But there you go. Right now, gold is giving you a pause. It's down to third of, you know, 43, 78, $4,400, down from 5,600 in January. It's giving you the opportunity to get on board. It is still a gigantic rise in the value of gold. It has been for a very long time. Burch Gold can help you convert an existing IRA or 401 into a tax sheltered retirement account. In gold, your money is worth more now. It's worth more than it was in January. Where are you going to be when gold does another meteoric rise? A plus rating from the BBB Birch Gold has tens of thousands of happy customers. I'm one of them. Text my name, Rob to 989-898. Again, text my name, Rob to 989-890 8. For information about diversifying into gold and other precious metals. Again, we're at $4,378. $20,000 would have gotten you, you know, 33 ounces of gold and now it's worth 144K. So gold is, is still red hot, but it's giving you a chance to, to get in while the price is a little bit lower. All right, so we've had some very positive signs with regard to Iran. We've been able to handily run over them. Donald Trump came out with originally and I think it was because his generals told him four to six weeks. What's going to happen at the end of four to six weeks? Where do you suppose we're going to be? What do you suppose? Who's going to be in charge? Do you have any idea?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, I don't know who's gonna be in charge, Rob. That's part of the challenge right now.

[Rob Carson]

Come on, Tony.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

And I think that we're going to see so militarily, Rob. I think we're, we, we've met the objectives and the Pentagon's been very effective in executing the war. We're not there yet. I mean, I've been critical of the fact that apparently we didn't have proper intel on the long range ICBMs. I said this today on news.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Like, hey, yeah. Yes, that's something we missed. We clearly missed that. That's not good. What else are we missing? So there's some things we have to do better. Look, I'm going to be critical of our own side when they don't do as good a job as they should. I think that was a shortcoming. But for the most part, I think by the beginning of April, President Trump's going to, going to announce some level of ending the war and ending the military use the use of military force as a 10 tactic. I think we're going to go into a diplomatic negotiation. I think that's where we're at right now. So by next week, I think we're going to be talking about the end of combat operations as we at the current pace right now.

[Rob Carson]

Now I adhered that and seen actually online that Israeli intelligence is on the ground there, that the Iranian people are telling them where IRCG members are and they're taking them out. They're taking them out with drones and whatnot. That's got to have the IRCG on their, on their heels.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

It does. In part of the problem continues to be if you kill all the leaders, nobody's there to turn things off. So, you know, as much as I'm all for killing bad guys, at some point you got to give the bad guys an opportunity to say, hey, I'm ready to surrender. So I think that's kind of where we're at. Like, yeah, kill it. Kill as many as you need to to make a point. But at some point we're going to have to stop the war. And that's where we're getting close to that point right now.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. What about the Crown Prince? And he talked the other day about. He says, I'm ready to go in now. I think that's fairly foolhardy on his part. Who would help assure his safety? Do you suppose Israel would help doing that? I mean, we're not into the regime change thing. I think Israel's a little bit leaning into that. They'd like to rid this area of any influence by the Ayatollah and his underlings. Do you suppose they would help usher in his transition to power?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

So the Israeli objectives and US Objectives differ in this area. So I think the Israelis would like to see continued and sustained chaos in Iran. I'll just be blunt. I don't think these Israelis have any love for any strong Iranian state coming back, period. So this is why they've some of the, some of the economic targets. With that said, I don't think that's in our interest. I don't think that's in the interest of the Middle east to have another Libya on the doorstep of Arab nations. So this is where I think we're going to have to be the ones who have help facilitate whatever governance takes the place of the current Iranian government. The Occupy. By the way, we're doing the same thing right now in Venezuela. So yeah, we're following.

[Rob Carson]

What do you think is going to happen the next month or so in Cuba?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Cuba's a basket case, by the way. Did you know Cold Pink idiots go down.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, dear God in heaven. This is. These are typical though. These are typical liberal elites. They go in with their, you know, their basket of goodies and they get put up in a five star hotel, which is the only power on. I mean this is, this is. So let them eat cake. Dear God in heaven.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

This Hassan Tiker goes in wearing a $500 plus shirt, twelve hundred dollar glasses. And Rob, get this. The average, the average annual annual income of a Cuban is $156.

[Rob Carson]

Yes, yes, I know, it's typical. Let them eat cake. Liberalism. They're perfectly fine with those people continuing to live in misery. Pounds of rice and one pound of beans or whatever they get every month. And they come in and they act like they are the white saviors. This is the same crap that happens all over the world. It's just utterly ridiculous. Tony, I hope and pray that Cuba is free. I want to see it in my lifetime. I want to go down and I want to hang out on a beach and I want to have a beautiful Cuban cigar as. And I do, I really want to do because that island has so much stinking potential and so does its glorious people.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yep, I agree. And I hope to be on the beach with you smoking a cigar. Some hell.

[Rob Carson]

You, you, me and Blaine hall, baby, we'd have a hell of a time now.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

All right, I'll talk to you. So where can people find all your work, Tony?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Just check me out on T. Spooky on X. Everything's there. Thanks for having me, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

All right, brother. I appreciate you. Yeah, I would. Oh, man, I. I've always loved the. The Cuban people. I love the music. I love the music. I've been listening to some kind of Cuban vibe music because it's sexy as hell. There's something about it. It's different than just like south of the border kind of Hispanic. It's a different sound than like a Mexican music. Cuban is a sexy. Just a sexy. I don't know, the music is just cool. It's just good. If you ever see like there's this. There's a movie called Shell and it has a lot. It has John Leguizamo. It's okay, let it go. I know he's an a hole. But anyway, and it is, it is inspired Cuban music and Cuban food, by the way. And I want Cuba libre, baby. Cuba libre. And there is nothing like a Monte Cristo number two torpedo. It's the best cigar in the world and a Cuban is the only way. It's the best. There is I've had many, many cigars in my life, lifetime. It's nothing better. And I want to see them rolled by free people. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. All right. Very busy day today. Very busy day today. We have much to get to. This is the 250th anniversary of our country's birth. And, and if you've been listening to the show for a while, you know how I feel about serendipity and about how, how history has brought us together. History brought us together. Donald Trump, we were being attacked. Donald Trump was being attacked. You know, we were censored. We watched as our presidential candidate was, you know, arrested and perp walked and they tried to take him off the ballot, try to put him in jail for, you know, whatever. Our Jan Sixers protesters were thrown in jail for four years without, without a trial. And, and ultimately Donald Trump won despite all the odds. And I said I'm going to move to Washington D.C. because I wanted to bring you here with me. And now you have an opportunity to come here with me because we have got this trip planned to Washington D.C. and I would love to have you get on board. October 25th through the 29th, couple days after my birthday. I don't need a present. Your presence will be enough. We are going to be doing a five day, four night trip to Washington D.C. tour the White House Visitor Center. Step into the halls of democracy with a guided tour of the U.S. capitol building. I know people. I can get in places nobody else can. Visit Arlington National Cemetery. See the changing of the Guard. Stand in awe before the towering figure of Abraham Lincoln. And the Lincoln Memorial. The reflecting pool. The World War II memorial. Oh, my God, you've got to see it. The Vietnam's Veterans Memorial. Jefferson Memorial Memorial. The mall with all of the museums. The, the Air and Space Museum is spectacular. I've been in all of them. Our adventure includes premium hotel accommodations, four nights, the heart of DC6 meals, ground transportation, guides and gratuities. Space is limited. Here's the website. Write it down so you could talk about it with your sig other or whatever. Make a plan. October 25th through the 29th travelwithrob.net travelwithrob.net Cruise and Tour is doing this for us. Travelwithrob.net or you can call this number. Number 800-383-3131. I'm taking days off for this. I want to be with you when we go, when we go to the different locations and we see things and you're going to see them through my eyes because I am like a big kid here. And we're going to have the time of our lives.

[Political Commentator]

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[Rob Carson]

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