Votes, Fraud, and Freakouts: The System Gets Exposed

Summary

The Rob Carson Show: Votes, Fraud, and Freakouts – The System Gets Exposed

Date: March 19, 2026
Host: Rob Carson
Notable Guest: Theo Wold (Former Deputy Assistant to President Trump, Former Idaho Solicitor General)
Main Theme:
This episode dives into the explosive debates around election laws, specifically the SAVE Act, claims of voter fraud, government corruption, and the consequences of progressive governance. Using a blend of fiery commentary, humor, and parody, Rob Carson and his guests link current domestic policies to larger cultural and political battles, focusing particularly on illegal voting, systemic fraud, and the fallout in states like California and New York.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. International Affairs & Military Posture

• Rob discusses the recent shift in global attitudes as “the world elites” acknowledge Donald Trump’s handling of the Iran crisis, suggesting historic changes in the Middle East ([01:21-03:13]).
  • Quote: "The world is coming around because you're recognizing what is happening is amazing and historic. And our military is leading the way." (Rob Carson, 02:15)
• Clips played of military updates, contrasted with Democrat criticisms that the current administration’s efforts are failing ([03:13]).

2. The SAVE Act & Election Integrity

• Significant attention is paid to the SAVE Act, aiming to require proof of citizenship for voting.
  • Senator John Kennedy’s method: Passing legislation through reconciliation to require only 50 votes plus the VP ([04:12], [07:32]).
  • Carson critiques Democrats for opposing voter ID laws, calling out the narrative that Black Americans or women cannot obtain IDs, and highlighting other societies (e.g., Uganda) where IDs are mandatory for participation ([04:38-07:32]).
  • Quote: "The only people without IDs are ghosts." (Rob Carson, 05:44)
• Caller Mark (08:04): A Maryland polling official stresses the need for integrity and accountability, lamenting Maryland’s “sanctuary” status and the difficulties it creates.

3. Claims of Voter Fraud & Political Strategy

• Chuck Schumer (09:33, 21:42): Audio is played of Schumer admitting the SAVE Act would “supposedly knock out illegal immigrants from voting,” while also downplaying evidence of illegal voting.
  • Carson’s rebuttal: He contends that investigations are blocked in Democrat-run states, and even one illegal vote is a “national tragedy” ([10:13]).
  • Quote: "One vote stolen is a national tragedy because the vote is everything. Representation is everything." (Rob Carson, 10:09)
• ICE at Polling Places: Democrats, such as Hakeem Jeffries and Elissa Slotkin, are characterized as panicked over the prospect of ICE agents near polling places ([12:18-13:38]).

4. Political Parody, Media Critique, & Guest Commentary

• Parody song mocking Joe Kent’s shifting positions on Iran ([18:48-19:52]).
• Media skepticism: The left purportedly uses resignations, such as Joe Kent’s, only to attack Trump, while mainstream media is accused of lacking credibility ([15:33-16:53]).
• Newsmax (Greg Kelly, Rob Finnerty) is lauded for providing “commentary you’ll only hear here” ([17:31]).

5. Systemic Fraud in State Governance

• Nick Shirley’s Fraud Exposure (32:30-34:11):
  • Shirley uncovers billions in fraudulent activity in California’s social service programs, particularly Medicare and hospice care. Instead of addressing the fraud, Governor Gavin Newsom allegedly attacks critics.
  • Quote: "Let's go after the guy who's exposing the fraud. Let's not go after the fraudsters." (Nick Shirley, 32:30)
• Theo Wold on California (34:11):
  • “All of the fraud is a feature, not a bug, of far-left uniparty control… If you want Democrats to run everything, this is what you get: graft, massive amounts of fraud and a total wealth transfer from the American taxpayer to foreign nationals.”
• The “Minnesota model”: A warning that Maryland and Virginia are following California into unaccountable, fraud-ridden social spending ([35:11-36:47]).

6. Wealth Exodus and Progressive Downfalls

• Kathy Hochul’s Plea (38:18):
  • New York’s governor is said to be “begging millionaires” to return and fund failing social programs through taxation, which Rob derides as futile ([38:18-39:58]).
  • Quote: "It's not patriotic to support a bloated, ineffective and wasteful government." (Rob Carson, 38:41)
• Theo draws parallels between “Democrat-run states” like NY and CA and the fate of red states if progressive policies are imported ([37:41]).

7. Immigration & Assimilation

• Theo Wold and Rob Carson discuss the differences between historical waves of immigration aimed at assimilation and current trends, which they assert are about building political client bases that do not “desire to become a part of the fabric of society” ([24:23-30:57]).
  • Quote: "The Democrats want a new form of immigration which hates America as founded and is slavish to the Democrat Party. That's it." (Rob Carson, 29:34)
• Birthright citizenship complications, referencing cartel figures with dual status hampering law enforcement ([26:54-27:51]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rob Carson (05:44): "The only people without IDs are ghosts."
• Chuck Schumer (09:33 / 21:42): "The core of the bill is handing the voter rolls over to DHS, putting them through an algorithm designed by Moj and Musk that knocks...supposedly knocks out illegal immigrants from voting. But the evidence is almost no illegal immigrants vote."
• Caller Mark (08:45): “We believe in integrity, accuracy, and accountability.”
• Theo Wold (23:30): "Keep them on rolls and then pass out the American taxpayers hard earned dollars to ensure they remain a part of the liberal leftist coalition."
• Nick Shirley (32:30): "[Newsom is] literally working to support the fraudsters...Let's go after the guy who's exposing the fraud. Let's not go after the fraudsters."
• Rob Carson (29:34): "The Democrats want a new form of immigration which hates America as founded and is slavish to the Democrat Party. That's it."
• Rob Carson on NY (38:41): "It's not patriotic to support a bloated, ineffective and wasteful government."

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Important Timestamps

• [01:21-03:13] — Global reaction to Trump’s Iran policy, military updates
• [04:12-07:32] — SAVE Act, ID debate, Uganda example, Senator John Kennedy audio
• [08:04-08:55] — Call-in from Maryland election judge on poll integrity and sanctuary issues
• [09:33-10:13] — Chuck Schumer’s admission about voter roll algorithms
• [12:18-13:38] — ICE and law enforcement at polling locations; Democrat resistance
• [15:19-17:31] — Media’s handling of Joe Kent, Newsmax’s position
• [18:48-19:52] — Joe Kent parody song by Jim Gossett
• [21:42-22:30] — Chuck Schumer reiterates “almost no illegal immigrants vote”
• [22:30-30:57] — Interview/conversation with Theo Wold: welfare, immigration, birthright citizenship, assimilation
• [32:30-34:11] — Nick Shirley exposes California’s fraud; Newsom’s response
• [35:11-37:41] — California, Maryland, Virginia, the spread of fraud; parallels drawn
• [38:18-39:58] — Kathy Hochul on needing rich people for social programs, New York’s tax woes

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Flow & Tone

Rob Carson’s style is humorous, highly critical, and at times caustic, often deploying parody and sarcasm alongside passionate calls for reform. Guest Theo Wold is incisive and intellectual, providing strategic and ideological context. The overall tone oscillates between satire and grave warning, underscoring claims of political malfeasance while frequently mocking progressive opponents.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a rapid-fire, entertaining critique of progressive policies, focusing on election security (the SAVE Act), political and financial corruption in blue states, the evolving nature of immigration, and concerns over state and federal governance. The commentary is peppered with parody, mockery of opponents, and direct calls for conservative action. If you want a blend of right-leaning political commentary and cultural parody, the Rob Carson Show offers both — with pointed discussions on the mechanics and implications of voter integrity, fraud, and shifts in America’s political landscape.

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For further engagement:

• Find Theo Wold at @RealTheoWold on X, Instagram, Facebook, and in publications like Newsweek and the Claremont Review of Books.
• Jim Gossett’s parody works on Patreon at JimGossettComedy.

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Transcript

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[Theo Wold]

Hold it Now.

[Show Announcer]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the world Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show.

[Rob Carson]

This is the Rob Carson show. Our number two of the show. Theo Wold is going to be joining us. Former Assistant Attorney General, former White House Deputy Assistant for Domestic Policy. That is so fancy, right? I mean, I got people on here who have titles like this. What the hell? Pretty crazy. We're going to talk about California fraud and the same act which you're going to get. Listen, it's breaking news. Breaking news. Oh my God. The elites of the world, the eu, NATO and all of this, they're coming around because they're seeing that Donald Trump is seriously kicking some major butt in Iran and now they want to get behind Keeping the Straits of Horror News

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

open the White House right now. President Trump is about to meet with Japan's Prime Minister. This is a critical moment. The President demanding US Allies contribute more as we, along with Israel, knock down a nuclear thirsty enemy in Iran and protect key oil shipping lanes in the Middle East.

[Rob Carson]

We don't need them, by the way. We don't, we don't, we don't need the, the shipping lanes or we don't need the oil. This is all about Europe and all you guys. The Straits of Horror moves is for you guys and Donald Trump's like, you know, hanging honestly, if you want it, you want it open? You're going to have to help us out a little bit. That's basically it. So, you know, you want to help us out, that'd be great. If you don't, then, you know you're going to kind of be toast. So there you go. The world is coming around. The world is coming around because you're recognizing what is happening is amazing and historic. And our military is leading the way. Our military is on the cusp of changing the face of the Middle East. Peace of the Middle east in. For the first time in a millennia, if I'm not mistaken. I have some audio from General Kane this morning talking about the success of Operation Epic Fur and where we are right now. Let me grab that real quick. Operations update US CENTCOM remains on plan

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

to achieve our military objectives and remain unrelenting.

[Rob Carson]

That's what Democrats are saying. Democrats are saying it's failing. Chris Murphy saying it's failing in our pursuit of Iranian missile capabilities, UAV capabilities

[Caller Mark]

and their navy, and as the Secretary

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

said, their industrial base. WCBM audio not playing.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, WCBM audio is not playing. How about now? Is it playing right now? WC BIM audio right now. I will have to double check real quick here because we have an issue with the connectivity. Hold on one second. I apologize. Let me go ahead and. No, we should be there. We should be there. Not sure exactly what the issue is. Can. Is everybody. Brian, am I hearing you right now? Okay, there you go. I don't know what the problem is. Anyway, here we are. Let's. Let's move on to the, the SAVE act, because I want to talk about the SAVE Act. Here is John Kennedy. I don't know if you knew this, but you know, we're talking about how we need votes and all of this and we need a. We need a what?

[Theo Wold]

A.

[Rob Carson]

A standing filibuster, not a zombie filibuster. And all of that stuff. Here is John Kennedy talking about what can be done.

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

We need to try to pass this legislation to reconciliation. Now you know how reconciliation works, Mr. President. It means.

[Rob Carson]

Here we go.

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

We need to try to pass this legislation through reconciliation. Now you know how reconciliation works, Mr. President. It means we can. We can pass this bill with 50 Republican votes and the Vice President to break the tie. That's how we pass the one big beautiful. I would hope to get some of my Democratic friends to support us, but we don't have to have.

[Rob Carson]

John Kennedy says that we can do it with 50 votes with J.D. vance. We got that. Why are we Going through this, all other crap. You know, I'm honest, I'm getting foggy. I'm getting a little foggy with what the heck is going on on this SAVE act. You know, 85% of us want the SAVE act passed, right? And the only people holding it back are people who, who want to keep illegals voting and stuff. And here's. Here's another thing I want to make it. Nobody else is saying this. Nobody else is saying this about the SAVE Act. You've got Democrats saying that black people, men can't get IVs, women can't do it after they get married and they change their name and all that stuff, which is stupid, is ridiculous, by the way. It's utterly, utterly ridiculous. And then black people, apparently not smart enough to do it. That's what they're saying. But oddly enough, they're only saying that it's black Democrats and Democrat women because it's not impacting the Republicans. Why. Why is it not keeping Republican women and Republican blacks from voting? It's just. It's stupid. It's just stupid. And the Democrat Party should be saying, hey, man, if there are people who don't have an id, we got to help them get id, because you've got to be able to survive, and you need an ID to survive. I found this piece out of Uganda. Uganda. I just was goofing around and I said, you know what? If you're not. I said, the only people without IDs are ghosts. That's what I said. The only people without IDs are ghosts. And this is a headline from this, this, this column from 2026 earlier this year. Without an ID, you're a ghost. Yeah. In Uganda today, citizens citizenship is increasingly mediated by a number, the National Identification, printed on a small Pl. It unlocks bank accounts, SIM cards, loans, government programs, passports, the right to vote. Without it, participation in society is not merely delayed, it's denied. What? Yeah. Without it, you're like a ghost. For Jackson Empire, a, I guess a guy who works in a place called Kampala. The national ID is not a document. It's survival. If you don't have an id, you can't access a loan. Some schools can demand parents IDs for child enrollment. Without it, a person effectively disappears from system. Systems built on digital verification with voter registration tied to national IDs. This is Uganda, for God's sake. In Uganda, you gotta have an ID to survive. If in fact there are people in our society who are naturalized citizens who don't have id, you would Think that the Democrat Party would say we've got to make sure everybody gets an id, not say that we shouldn't require an id because clearly if there are people without an id, they are suffering. They are suffering right now. They can't survive. But you see, the only kind of identification the Democrats don't want is to get to vote because they want illegals to vote. It should be obvious what I'm saying here is not. Is not impossible to understand. Not impossible to understand. Here's Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi said the same thing about 50 votes plus 1. Being the VP makes a big difference. That would take 2/3 in the Senate.

You think the Democrats can get 2

thirds in the Senate? No, it doesn't get 2 thirds.

[Guest / Commentator]

No, no, it doesn't. I mean 60 votes is the Senate now. But if we win 50 plus one in the Senate, 50 plus the Vice President, we can overturn the 60 vote rule.

[Rob Carson]

The filibuster.

[Guest / Commentator]

The filibuster and pass it with a 51 vote margin. And that's what we.

[Rob Carson]

How in the hell did she know that in 2024. And we are just now discovering it today. Seriously, John Thune, what the hell is your problem? I want to go to Mark in Baltimore. Mark, welcome to the Rob Carson Show. What's on your mind today?

[Caller Mark]

Yes, good afternoon and shalom. You're talking about the Saved act and I hope it passes both houses. Their Congress is signed by the White House quickly because we got the. We're in the primary season and here in the state of Maryland, which is the primary system starting in June of 2026. I work as a poll for the election judge or chief precinct judge now. Oh, do you time. But we're required to ask ID if in the poll book for some strange reason if a prospective voters asked to show their ID. Otherwise we're not even allowed. I know for the IDs of course, so forth. So it is important because you know, there was human Maryland. We got areas that are sanctuary oriented. If you.

[Rob Carson]

Oh yes.

[Caller Mark]

Oh yes means who knows what and all that. So I do support whatever effort it is to make our jobs easier because we believe integrity, accuracy and accountability.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. And I believe that. And I believe Maryland needs to pull its head out of its rear end because honestly, Maryland could be a great state. It really, really could. I loved living in Maryland, but it is so bat guano crazy. High taxes, highest utility bills in the country. Mark, you can attest to this. Highest utility bills in the country because like 60% of the energy has to be created outside of Maryland because of stupidity. Because of this mayor, this governor. I should say Wes Moore, who cares more about running for the presidency than anything else. Mark, I appreciate you, man. Gotta run. Gotta run. Gotta run. Here's Chuck Schumer admitting the SAVE act boots illegals from the. From the voter roll.

[Guest / Commentator]

The core of the bill is handing the voter rolls over to dhs, putting them through an algorithm designed by Moj and Musk that knocks. Supposedly knocks out illegal immigrants.

[Rob Carson]

He just said it. He just said it. He said it knocks illegals off the voting rolls. Now listen how he justifies it.

[Guest / Commentator]

The core of the bill is handing the voter rolls over to dhs.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Guest / Commentator]

Putting them through an algorithm designed by Moj and Musk that knocks. Supposedly knocks out illegal immigrants from voting. But very. The evidence is almost no illegal immigrants vote.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, you're absolutely full of crap. You see, because you can't investigate voter fraud in states like California. They don't investigate voter fraud in places like California, okay? That's just the way it is. So, honestly, you are so full of it. It's not even. You just gave up the ghost there, bro. You just gave up the ghost. This is what it's about. Taking illegals off the voter rolls. And I don't. If it's one illegal. That's a stolen vote. One is enough to require an id. One vote stolen is a national tragedy because the vote is everything. Representation is everything. We had a revolutionary war over taxation without representation. So I would be more concerned about getting legal residents who don't have IDs. Some IDs. But. But those people don't exist. Those people don't exist. The Democrat parties make it say, oh, black people, women can't get IDs. They've already got them. There's nobody. Except for maybe a home. No, even homeless people have it because they go in there, get, you know, whatever. They might go into Seattle and get their free needles or whatever. Got to be able to say who they are. I have no idea. But everybody's got an id. You know who doesn't have a legitimate ID to show that they're a citizen? People who aren't citizens. Oh, it's painful. Yesterday at the hearing for the confirmation of Mark Wayne Mullen is the DHS secretary, Democrats had their panties in a bunch. Even the men, because they all wear panties. Had their panties in a bunch about the possibility that ICE could be outside of polling places. Now, they've already made the choice. Like I heard Hakeem Jeffries, he says he doesn't want ICE in churches, he doesn't want ice in hospitals, he doesn't want ICE at schools, and he doesn't want them at polling places. Okay, so here's the deal. Illegals might have kids in school. Illegals might need, you know, hospital treatment. Illegals might go to church. Why would illegals go to polling places? Yeah, it should be obvious to put uniform. This was Elise Slotkin. She's got her panties in a bunch about the possibility of ice being at

polling places to put uniformed officers at polling locations in 2026.

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

Ma', am, we said this in your office. The only reason why my officers would be there, if there was a specific threat for them to be there, not for intimidation. And I.

[Rob Carson]

Even though we don't need it During World War II, we didn't need it during Vietnam or the war on terror, we never had to put uniform.

They are so desperate, they're just pulling out every excuse. They're pulling it all out because they know, like Chuck Schumer said, they want to take illegals off the voter rolls there.

Now, you feel that there's going to be a reason that there's going to be an armed threat to the United States that you.

Oh, is that what it is?

[Theo Wold]

Okay.

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

I can't sit there and guarantee, hypothetically, what threat would be. Not. I'm not putting military. That's not within my uniform.

[Rob Carson]

Sorry, uniformed officers.

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

But if there is a threat, a specific threat, say it's in a Jewish community and there is a threat that's specific to that, to that polling area, then we will work with local law enforcement. There'll be. There'll be a reason for us to be there, and it'll be known why we're there.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, there you go. So, yeah, the Democrat Party is. They've. They've shown their cards. There's. There's no doubt about it. Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that they're showing their cards and they only want illegals to be on the voter rolls. That's it. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show.

Democrats. Are you guys okay today?

[Theo Wold]

I came in to check on you.

[Rob Carson]

Every time Trump does something good, you guys spazzed out. Would you guys shut up and let him work?

Metallica. Thank you very much. You can thank. Now go ahead. I heard you. Thank you. You're welcome. So Joe Kent previously argued Iran was a threat to the United States, pushed for wiping out the nuclear and missile capabilities. Donald Trump mentioned that today. You know, Joe Kent, Stepped down from his position with the National Counterterrorism center and all of that stuff. And, you know, and then of course, we got the poll from Harry Hinton that shows that Trump supporters are 100% behind Donald Trump and 90% of Trump supporters and Republicans are in favor what we're doing in Iran. So there is that. But. But it looks like Donald Trump is pushing back on this. Donald Trump said, Joe Kent said we should not sit back and wait for the next attack. Wipe Iran's ballistic capability out, get our troops out of Iraq. They are only targets now. There you go. And Donald Trump reposted that this morning. Rob Finnerty, by the way, have you been watching Newsmax lately? Holy hell. I mean, honestly, it's. It's spectacular. You get the same old, same old. We're on Fox, same ultimate. Yesterday I saw a little bit of one of their main anchors kind of sliding towards the. The Tucker Carlson wing of the party. I'll just tell you that right now. Girl who hosts an evening news show as well as I was kind of like, really? Really? You want to go there? I hope you're not going there because Tucker is off the reservation, as it were. Here is Rob Kennedy. Rob Kennedy, Rob Finnerty talking about on Newsmax last night, Joe Kit.

[Guest / Commentator]

But some guy who worked in counterterrorism resigns on really official looking letterhead.

[Rob Carson]

You're not going to get commentary anywhere else. I promise you this.

[Guest / Commentator]

And then goes on a podcast tour today. And it was the biggest story in America for only one reason.

[Rob Carson]

What's that, Rob?

[Guest / Commentator]

Because the left could use it against Donald Trump. That's it. Oh, yeah, that's why you keep hearing about Joe Kent.

[Rob Carson]

That's true.

[Guest / Commentator]

Who is now under FBI investigation.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, there's that. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweet is for leaking classified documents. Apparently it was before this happened.

[Guest / Commentator]

They already knew about it being that Joe Kent is an American hero.

[Theo Wold]

Really?

[Guest / Commentator]

Is he, Marjorie? Is he really an American hero? In his resignation letter, Kent said he couldn't quote in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran.

[Rob Carson]

That's kind of funny because in good conscience, I can.

[Guest / Commentator]

That's kind of weird, just really strange, because in 2022, the same guy, Joe Kent, tweeted to Donald Trump directly that we can't sit here and wait for the next attack. We should wipe out Iran's ballistic missile capability right now.

[Rob Carson]

Holy hell. That sounds like Iran was a threat

[Guest / Commentator]

now, which again is interesting because that's exactly what Donald Trump just did. Not only that, but the same legacy media that were praising Joe Kent yesterday are literally accusing him of treason. Now.

[Rob Carson]

The Trump administration is now politicizing national intelligence. Two sources tell NBC News that Joe

Kent chief of staff, the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, urged analysts to revise an assessment of the Venezuelan gang trend after it came to light that

[Guest / Commentator]

the assessment contradicted public statements from Donald Trump.

[Rob Carson]

Joe Kent pushed the analysts to make changes to protect his boss and the president from being attacked.

Kent wrote in an email. This is the, the, the. The media is so transparently biased and pathetic, and you think they learn after a while they wanted to save their rear ends and, you know, have some ratings and it just never changes. It's same old, same old. They're just spirally out of control. Newsmax. Kicking butt. Kicking butt. Greg Kelly, Greg Kelly, war hero. By the way, Greg Kelly, if you knew that Greg Kelly's a war hero. Spectacular human being. Here is Greg Kelly last night on Newsmax talking about. Again, this is a commentary you're only going to hear on Newsmax. It is. It's just good. Here's Greg.

[Theo Wold]

Take a look at this. It is set up.

[Show Announcer]

The director of National Counterterrorism. His name is Joe Kent.

[Rob Carson]

And with everything going on right now, a patriot would do everything they could to save America. You would think two years or two weeks into the largest military operation in probably U.S. history since World War II. That is wildly successful as someone who is truly a faithful patriot and not a political apparatus who doesn't, like Donald Trump would sit on it, wait for it, instead of shooting it down two weeks in.

[Theo Wold]

But not this guy.

[Rob Carson]

Yes. Joe Kent, in this moment, decided to quit.

[Show Announcer]

He quit.

[Theo Wold]

He walked off the job.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. He wouldn't have done that. Not Greg Kelly when he was on the battlefield. Man, risking his life for America. Crazy.

[Theo Wold]

What are you doing?

[Guest / Commentator]

We are.

[Theo Wold]

They're coming to get us.

[Show Announcer]

This is when we need everybody.

[Rob Carson]

All right. Yeah. There you go. But of course, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Joe Kent. Honestly, in the grand scheme of things, they don't mean squat. Here is Jim Gossett as the press president singing about Joe Kent on the Rob Carson show.

[Show Announcer]

Flint flop. Joe, Ken won't stop. New position every day. My, my. He likes to lie. No telling what he's gonna say now. He says Iran's no threat.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[Show Announcer]

Did Joe Kent somehow forget?

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, I did.

[Show Announcer]

He favored war. Not anymore. Cliff clock reverse. Joe's curse. I'm so happy Joe can't quit. Too late to vacillate. He was never a good fit. His old tweets I expose attacking Iran. Joe never opposed Nope. Backtrack and get no flack from the left Hesitate and fluctuate.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Show Announcer]

Singing a different tune has it in at cnn. He'll be on the air there soon. All his posts he cannot hide.

[Rob Carson]

No.

[Show Announcer]

We know how much he lied. My, my. Nice try, Joe. Ken There you go.

[Rob Carson]

That is Jim. God, that's the first time I listen to the whole, I heard a little bit of this morning. I was like, because I trust him so much. I'm like, yeah, it's going to be good. I'll just put it on and wow. He does not disappoint. I swear to God. Jim gossip. Go to patreon.com Jim Gosset comedy and pledge about 10 bucks a month, 20 bucks a month, whatever. He'll send you two terrific pieces of comedy every single day. He's prolific and amazing. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Hey guys, it's Carson for Shopify. You know, for years I have had a swag line of T shirts with catchy phrases and whatnot and it's just been lying there. Well, I've decided to go with Shopify and actually make money with my own business. Shopify gives you everything you need to sell online and in person. Millions of entrepreneurs have already made this leap from household names to first time business owners just getting started. Choose from hundreds of beautiful templates you can customize to match your brand. Instead of just having a lousy website that nobody notices like I have been doing for years, set up fast with Shopify's built in AI tools that write product descriptions and headlines, create email and social campaigns that reach customers wherever they scroll. In 2026, stop waiting and start selling with Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com Newsmax go to shopify.com Newsmax make building a successful business. Your 2026 New Year's resolution,

[Guest / Commentator]

the core of the bill is handing the voter rolls over to dhs, putting them through an algorithm designed by Moshe and Musk that knocks supposedly knocks out illegal immigrants from voting. But very the evidence is almost no illegal immigrants voting.

[Rob Carson]

So there is Chuck Schumer admitting that they are illegals on the voter rolls, but they don't vote. And of course, states like California, they don't investigate voter fraud at all. So there's that. Joining us on the Newsmax hotline is Theo Wold, former deputy assistant to President Trump, former Idaho solicitor general as well. How you doing tonight, friend what's going on?

[Theo Wold]

No, I'm doing good Rob. Thanks for having me on. It's good to be with you.

[Rob Carson]

You know, I was thinking about this. I'd love to know your thoughts. The Democrat Party is freaking out about the possibility of illegals being taken off the voter rolls. Yesterday during the DHS confirmation hearings of Mark Wade Mullen, you had, you know, people their panties in a bunch about, you know, possibility of, of ICE agents outside of polling places. You know, why would illegals go to polling places?

[Theo Wold]

Yeah, it's a great question, Rob. It's a really good question and it's one that no one has really in the mainstream media has bothered to ask. Democrats. Here's another one for you. A super, super majority of House Democrats yesterday voted not to deport foreigners who I know. Criminal welfare fraud against. Why are Democrats against, against. Why are Democrats against that?

[Rob Carson]

Because they brought so many illegals here, loaded them up with government largesse to ensure that they'll vote Democrat. Duh. Right.

[Theo Wold]

It's exactly right. It's exactly right, Rob. Keep them on rolls and then pass out the American taxpayers hard earned dollars to ensure they remain a part of the liberal leftist coalition. And you get what is for the Democrats a simple pathway to electoral majority.

[Rob Carson]

You know, it's really sickening also is people are coming to this country pledging their allegiance to a party and a government program. They're not, they're not wanting to assimilate. They're not wanting to become a part of the fabric of society, become productive members of society. We're seeing this with Somalians, I could say that it's not racist or anything. You know, in Minnesota and other states around the country, the Democrat Party has found a group of people who are willing to come to America, not assimilate, not appreciate the culture, to just be ticks on the American tax payer and vote Democrat. It really is very incredibly destructive to the country.

[Theo Wold]

It's destructive to the country. But here's another thing, Rob, that a lot of folks have missed so far and there was some excellent reporting on this this week about the just massive amount of money that is leaving the country. Build up free enterprise, housing, hospital systems and military capabilities in places like Somalia, in places like India. So it's not just that they're here. And this was true as you know, in the 1990s where foreign nationals were coming into our country and living off of entitlement programs and not working, not assimilating. But what's new now is they are literally defrauding the American people. Of their own money to build up other nations that in many instances, like with Somalia, have strategic interests that are diametrically opposed to the.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I mean, this is more than that because obviously America is the most generous country in the history of mankind with our wealth. We have been, over the years, we have, we have given and given and given and given some more to the well being of the entire world. Not only money, but also blood, I might mention blood as well. And so honestly, a little redundant on that, a little selfish on their part, but more importantly, in places like Somalia, money going there to fund terrorism.

[Theo Wold]

Yeah, yeah. Just to fund the very agents, as you noted, who not only harmed American strategic reform policy interests, but spilt American blood. That's exactly right, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

I got to tell you, and then the more that I watch the Democrat party, the more I realize what a crooked cabal they are. I mean, really, they're not a force for good. I've said that the Democrat party needed to reinvent itself or disappear into the dustbin of history. They're leaning into the dustbin. And I, I want you to think about this, Theo, because you know, we've got 97% of Republicans support the SAVE act, okay, essentially like 90, some whatever percent that equals the number of Republicans in the Senate who support it. The Democrat Party, Democrats support it 70% of the time. 76% of blacks, I think 83% of Hispanics, 100% of Democrats are against it. So if I were a Democrat, I would be very upset because you are not being represented at all whatsoever in Congress. The same goes with this transgender nonsense. It's a 95% issue, but 100% of Democrats on Capitol Hill are down with it. This party is so beyond out of touch. And I'm just hoping that Democrat voters are beginning to recognize this.

[Theo Wold]

Yeah, but here's the question, Rob. Who are the Democrat voters? Two things you're mentioning here. One with the SAVE act, the requirement that you have proof of citizenship to vote in our elections. The other that is sort of implied in the subtext of this debate going on on is birthright citizenship. So just today we learned that one of the new heads of the most powerful cartels in Mexico is by birthright citizenship, a US citizen complicating the ability for DHS and some of our intelligence services, law enforcement interests to go after him because he's an American citizen. So the question has to be asked of the Democrat party at this point, with the welfare vote, with the expansion of these fraud programs. Right. They've created a constellation. It's not accidents. It's not just a moving target. It's a constellation of organized theft. And then you add something in here of their defense of birthright citizenship. It turns out that maybe their voters aren't American 100%.

[Rob Carson]

That's what happened with Zoran Mandami, dude, he had 65, I think 65% of his voters are from out of the country. And again, they are not wanting to assimilate. They do not, they do not want America as founded. They want government largesse. They want either Marxism, communism or, or, or Sharia. That's it. And that's what we've got right now. And. Go ahead.

[Theo Wold]

No, I was going to say, Rob. And your point is exactly right. And it puts to bed this long running canard. You hear it all the time. Super bowl watch party. Someone's always got an uncle or cousin who makes this point. You hear it every day on msnbc, which is, well, this is immigration that we've always had. It's no different than the Irish or the Italian, and it is diametrically different because Southern Europeans or the Irish or the waves of Germans who came in the founding of the Republic all desired one essential thing, which was to assimilate to the American way of life. And that has entirely been dispensed with by the wave after wave of mass migration we've had since the 1970s.

[Rob Carson]

You know, the Democrat Party, they always act like we just discovered this. You know, meanwhile, you know, my ancestors were immigrants, okay? They weren't how many actually Americans. We're all immigrants, bro. We've always been a great American melting pot. And the Democrat Party is acting like this is somehow new. It's just they are reinventing what immigration is about. We've known it's to come here from the armpits of the world or wherever or where you don't experience religious freedom or whatever. And you move here, even if you've got pennies in your pocket and you know that you're going to be able to make it and you live that dream.

[Show Announcer]

That's nothing.

[Rob Carson]

The immigration that Democrats want because immigrants like the past, are patriotic and believe in the country and the Constitution. The Democrats want a new form of immigration which hates America as founded and is slavish to the Democrat Party. That's it.

[Theo Wold]

Yeah. And there's an essential truth in there, Rob, that you just said, which is the constitutional founding of the country. Because if we wanted to boil this all down, go read the academic literature that the Democrat Party elites have been pumping out not just in universities, they put in popular press. It's everywhere. And the entire systematic goal of the left in this country is to deconstruct the constitutional self governing principle that the nation was founding on. That's what it's all about. They call it decolonization, they call it wokeism, they call it queer studies. But all of it is targeted at deconstructing this nation as we know it. Look, and it's on, it's on steroids now. And they have the mass of people. As you mentioned, the Mandani election is sort of exemplifies this, which is the American voting population now has, they are at an asymmetrical disadvantage to the massive number of people who have been imported here who, you know, look, they hear a name like Michael Dukakis and they think that's some kind of Athenian general. That's how little history most of these people have about our country, let alone are founding. And so we're in hot water here, Rob.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are. We've got to start kicking ass and taking names. Theo Wold, I want to continue the conversation on the other side of the break. Massive fraud uncovered in California by, by Nick Shirley, among others. And Gavin Newsom essentially calls him a pedophile for it. I mean, ridiculous. Ridiculous. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson. Hey guys, it's Carson. I just got a ghost bed. Yeah, pay attention here because I've been sleeping on a foam mattress since I moved to the Washington, D.C. area, which is like sleeping on the the sponge in your sink. Ghostbed doesn't build mattresses like furniture. They build engineered sleep systems. Their beds are serious health equipment. Beds designed for relief and recovery, not looks, not fluff. Your body should be healing while you sleep, not fighting for comfort. I have been sleeping past seven in the morning on my ghostbed. It's unbelievable. If you wake up stiff, you toss and turn. If you sleep hot, even reaching for a pain reliever before bed, hoping tonight will be different. That's not aging, it's your mattress talking. Another great thing I love about Ghostbed, you get 101 nights to try it at home. If you don't like the difference, you can send it back risk free. Ghostbed is offering my audience their lowest prices of the season plus an extra 10% on go to ghostbed.com Carson use promo code Carson. That's ghostbed.com Carson promo code Carson. You are going to love your new ghost bed.

[Nick Shirley]

Yes, the governor of California is an enemy to the people of California. He's literally working to support the fraudsters. Meanwhile, he could be working to expose the frauds. Fraud. I mean, how, how stupid you have to be to say, okay, let's go after the guy who's exposing the fraud. Let's not go after the fraudsters. That is what he's doing, what he's actively doing each and every single day when he makes out these statements and all he does is blame the people who are showing the fraud. Why doesn't he say, hey, Nick, great video. How can we help?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Guest / Commentator]

That is what I would say.

[Rob Carson]

That is Nick Shirley talking last night about Gavin Newsom. He has uncovered what we already knew existed out there. A massive amount of fraud using Medicare. And what they're saying, 250, $300 billion in fraud in California. A lot of it has to do with this hospice care stuff. Just like the, the autism charities in Minneapolis exploding by 1000% over the last few years. Going into strip malls, finding people driving 100,000, $200,000 cars, no. People being treated, run by the Armenian mafia. And what does Gavin Newsom do? He has a picture of Nick Shirley wearing a camera on his head saying that he's essentially a pedophile looking for children at daycare centers where kids aren't being enrolled. I mean, what the hell? What the hell is wrong with you, man? Gavin Newsom will never be the President of the United States. He will never be the President of the United States. And God willing, he will be removed from office. And I would love to see him go to jail with tips of Minnesota. Theo Wald, what do you think about this, this reaction from Gavin Newsom to Nick Shirley uncovering so much fraud?

[Theo Wold]

Rob, look, this is more of the same for Democrats. One thing that your listeners have to keep in mind here is Democrats have run the state of California since 2005, top to bottom. They have every constitutional statewide office, office, almost all of the seats in the congressional delegation. They even control most of the county governments, even those that are way up in the foothills in the Sierra. So this is, this is their state, their policies. And what you see when you. When you have that concept in your mind, what you see is the fraud. Whether it's the high speed rail system that was $9.5 billion of federal taxpayer subsidies, the 89 hospice care providers in one building, none of which actually exist, exists. All of the fraud is a feature, not a bug, of far left uniparty control. If you want Democrats to run everything, this is what you get. Graft, massive Amounts of fraud and a total wealth transfer from the American taxpayer to foreign nationals. Again on repeat, this is gathering news

[Rob Carson]

from California, I swear to God. And it's going on all over the country. It is going all the way around the country. Over in Maryland. I live in Virginia. Maryland is right with fraud. That's going to be next. Over here in Virginia, where I just moved six months ago, Abigail Scamberger, she has lied about who she was and misrepresented. The Democrats in the legislature here literally have proposed. Are you ready for this? Unlimited money to NGOs and charities and no ability to audit them or investigate them for fraud. That's how transparent they're being about what they want to do in the state of Virginia. They're looking at the model of Minnesota. They're looking at the model of California here, Theo.

[Theo Wold]

Yeah. And the model is this, Rob. Infrastructure projects that never get built.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Theo Wold]

It's the fancy sounding high speed rail or the mountain lion bridge that goes nowhere.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Theo Wold]

Social services that are rife with fraud. And then what's the answer? It goes back to what you said said in our last thread there, Rob, which is the answer from Democrats is well we couldn't do it. We couldn't govern because, well, it's the rich people's fault. So what we need to do now is a wealth tax. And as Mamdani so that just the other day, the wealth tax isn't for billionaires alone, it's for anyone making over $100,000 a year.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Theo Wold]

It is going to redistribute the wealth of the country to pay off their foreign national client rent seeking constituencies. That's the Democrat party's model for governance. As you said, whether it's in Virginia or Santa Monica, it's all the same.

[Rob Carson]

It's a death spiral. It's never going to get any better and it's only going to get worse. It's actually getting much, much worse. You've got Kathy Hochul begging millionaires and business people come to come back to New York like it's their patriotic duty to be over taxed for these failed government programs.

[Theo Wold]

Yeah. I mean at some level you and I probably had the same reaction to that, Rob, which is wow, this is so pathetic. But then when you sit and kind of ruminate on it, you're like oh wow, they just gave up the game. Oh yeah, running out of soak. And this is why I think it's an accessory point for all of your, your listeners who are in red states or places they think are red states this is why it's so important to battle the left in red states, to build up the institutional power of red state governments. Because they know that people right now have an option. They can Nashville, they can get out and move to Idaho. The problem is going to be that if they import the same kinds of ideas to red states, and we'll all be screwed if that point.

[Rob Carson]

Well, I like to say the Democrat Party are like the aliens from Independence Day. They move in and devour all the resources, then move on. They're just like the aliens. Theo Wald. Theo, I've appreciated having you on the show today again, my brother. Where can people find your glorious work and online presence?

[Theo Wold]

I'm at Real Theo World on X, on Instagram, Facebook and, you know, published in Newsweek, in Claremont Review Book. So look for me on Mike.

[Rob Carson]

All right. I appreciate you being on the show today. Have a glorious weekend. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show.

[Guest / Commentator]

And being conscious of the fact that I need people who are high net worth to support the generous social programs that we want to have in our state.

[Rob Carson]

That's Cavie Hochul admitting that they just want rich people for government largesse. And she's begging people to come back to New York. And guess what?

[Show Announcer]

They're not governors right now.

[Guest / Commentator]

There are some patriotic millionaires who stepped up.

[Rob Carson]

It's not patriotic to support a bloated, ineffective and wasteful government.

[Guest / Commentator]

Okay, cut me the checks if you want to be supportive. But maybe the first step should be go down to Palm beach and see who you can bring back home.

[Rob Carson]

They're not going to come back, girl. No, no, no. You know, you screwed the pooch.

[Guest / Commentator]

Tax base has been eroded. So I feel soft. We don't have a problem.

[Audio Clips / Quotes]

Problem.

[Guest / Commentator]

It is like I have to look at the fact that we are in competition with other states who have.

[Rob Carson]

And you're losing less of a tax

[Guest / Commentator]

burden on their corporations and their individuals. And I would say remote work changed everything. There are people who could only work in an office in Manhattan and work in New York State. And they were captives to our state. They were going to stay.

[Rob Carson]

They were captives in the state.

[Guest / Commentator]

We saw that. That's not the case. I mean, you know, Wall street businesses looking at Texas. Yeah, they're not going there because they have a nicer governor. I know that for sure. But they're going there because of the tax rate. We have to be smart about this.

[Rob Carson]

Then why are you so stupid? Oh, my God. How stupid are you? Nobody's going to come back I wouldn't come back. It'd be like going back to an abusive spouse, for God's sake. Are you out of your nut? Here is Zoran Mandami begging people not to leave. Begging people. And they're not going to come back. They're going.

[Theo Wold]

Amidst being in the wealthiest city in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, we already see an exodus of working in middle class New Yorkers. So I don't have a head.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, yeah. Because working in middle class can't work there and rich people don't want to pay for it. You know, $30 minimum wage, which you

[Theo Wold]

idiots are proposing and asking those who make the most amount of money in the city or the most profits in the city to pay a little bit more so that everyone can actually stay in the city.

[Rob Carson]

It's also screw you. Screw you. I hope these, these Democrat run states spiral into hell and bankruptcy. Honestly, to hell with them. I'd leave. And I'm going to tell you what, if Virginia goes down this, this path, I'm going to leave, I'm going to leave this state. I'm not going to put up with this nonsense. Ridiculous. By the way, the last couple of weeks I've had a lot of people very interested in climbing in my bed. I just want to be honest about this. It happens. It happens. I'm getting people, they're saying, rob, I want to get in your bed. And I'm like, guys, just go to ghostbed.com Newsmax Ghostbed is this new bed that I got and I'm sleeping until the sun comes up, which I haven't done in years. I had a foam mattress that sucked. It was like sleeping on the sponge in your sink. I heard about ghost bed. I got this thing comes in a box. I open it up un vacuum sealed it and it popped into this thick, beautiful, glorious pillow topped mattress. Not too hard, not too soft, sleeps cool. Cool. Ridiculous. The value is ridiculous. American made. American made. You can get in my bed. Just go to ghostbed.com newsmax ghostbed.com newsmax 10 savings on top already low price and I'm not screwing around guys. It is the best I've slept in years. It is the best I've slept in years. Ghostbed.com newsmaker Max it will blow your mind. I mean it. I look forward to going to bed for. For crying out loud, take a break and come back. Last hour of the show is next. Don't go anywhere.

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